Armchair Builder...thanks much for this video! Just bought a bunch of this stone for a backsplash and your video is just what I needed to DIY the install with (a little bit of) confidence.
Hi Andrew. Great to hear! We actually left the wooden supports in place and cut the stone around them. For the edge, I struggled with this one. I think a small piece of trim could help hide the unfinished edge of the stone, but once they were in place, I didn't mind the edge so much. You could use a piece of shelf edge molding or maybe a quarter round. We left ours unfinished.
For the outlet extender box, people are going to need to purchase 3" #6 machine screws. I put Airstone on my kitchen bar wall just like that, and the screws that came with the outlet extender were WAY too short. I bought a pack of 3" ones for about $1.49 and they worked beautifully.
Great video. I want to install the same type stone above a kitchen counter backsplash. The work area height is 14" Can this stone be installed on a builders, spray painted 3/4" drywall, that's 4 years old. I doubt they used a primer. I would like to use a strong adhesive as the individual panels weigh 7 pounds. If not, I'll could install a Hardie 1/4" backer board but I'm trying to avoid extending too far out on the existing counter backsplash. Thank you!
You should use Hardyboard on top of the sheetrock. The stone weighs too much for just sheetrock application. Especially if your have tall ceilings. You don't want to have your stone come tumbling down during a small earthquake. If your just using it under a cabinet or countertop then you can decide if u want to risk it but if your going up a wall or above a fireplace definitely use Hardyboard.
I just did a backsplash in my kitchen and dining. Looks amazing. I used the video to a t. My question is this. I have never even used a saw before so this was new to me but came pretty easy. My question is that when cutting this I did use a wet saw. Do I need to worry about silicosis from breathing in this material. I did the cuts all in my garage with the doors open. But definitely breathed some in if not a lot. It took me about a week, 3 hours a day. Please let me know if I have a health concern over this. Thank you
Hi there. Glad to hear the project went well. It's always a good idea to wear protection to prevent from breathing in the dust while cutting. If you want more info about the health affects, you should probably check with the manufacturer. They know the exact makeup of the stone and can tell you what the MSDS say.
Hate to bug you again, but your advice has been a life saver. Did you make parallel cuts in to the stone sections to cut around the outlet or just make a perpendicular all the way through the section, i.e. cutting it in half? I'm doing fine with the perpendicular cuts, but parallel, not so much. Thanks again.
I'm convinced I can do this. Will definitely give this a try. Let me get my checklist together: drop cloth, protective eyewear, leveler, mortor, tile cutter and mortar? Am I missing anything?
Thanks for showing us how to do it, I am a female and a little creative and a little handy. I saw the ledge stone and I like it because it is natural. I also saw the air stone and I got confused to choose.I decided to do it myself for my fireplace. I saw your video clip and it is very helpful. My problem was do I need a cement board or can I do it on a dry wall.I got all the info I needed. I will do it in a week and I will email the before and after pictures.Thank you. Messi
Hey Messi. You can install this stone on drywall up to 10 feet high. If you're installation will be 10 feet or higher, you will need cement board. Good luck with your project.
Thank you so much, got a little busy with my kids and couldn't get much time for now. Definitely will do it soon when I get time and post it as I promised.Thanks again.
I am going to build a wall for wife's new office. I want to use this style accent for the bottom with shiplap above it. Can I use plyboard that is primed rather than dealing with sheetrock? Or should I just go for duraboard? Although I have connections for plyboard at the price of free sometimes. Any thoughts?
I have some questions if the wall is painted in gloss, how to prepare a wall for the following installation, and what glue or cement is better use in this situation?
Looks great! I have 2 questions. 1. I am installing this quartz around my fireplace. Now it is just drywall. The fireplace has a metal "hood" above the fire. I presume this is to deflect smoke to prevent smoke damage above. I don't particularly like the look of it. Does the quartz absorb smoke and take on smoke staining? Should I re- install the hood? 2. I have 2 fireplaces to do. At the beginning of this video, you show a photo of a floor to ceiling fireplace. Do you know what kind of stone was used for that one? I love that look as it will fit in better in my heritage home.
+Ann Hogan Hi Ann. I haven't used this particular stone on a fireplace, so I'm not sure how badly it would stain from smoke. That being said, if you are worried about possible staining, I would use the darkest color material you can find...so any staining that does take place isn't so obvious. I can't say much about the hood since I don't have any details, but it sounds like it does have a purpose so I would think carefully before removing. The stone shown at the beginning of the video was a manufactured material which requires a more detailed installation process...including a scratch coat surface before installation. Hope this helps.
I bought this tile in white. I can see the yellow glue on the front face of the stones. Do you know how to get this glue off? Should I use sialic acid?
Good video. I am applying this product to a fireplace, interior application over prepared drywall (previously painted, now upgrading to stone). The flooring is carpet (ugh). My question is - you started with shims to achieve gap above flooring and level. With carpet that is more challenging. I am considering running a metal tile ledge similar to one you would use to complete a finishing edge to tile or a transition style metal. I would just screw it into the studs through the drywall and achieve a hard level edge to start my first row on. Thoughts? As well, you wanted to know how PL works... I'll let you know. I spoke with a contractor who uses this product all the time and applies PL... so I will get back to you and let you know how my project turns out with it. Thank you in advance. Al
+Lesal8403 Hi Al. The metal channel might work. But we only used the shims to leave a gap in case we replaced the tile floor in the future...the gap would give us some room to get the tile out without damaging the stone. Personally, if I had carpet, I would pull the carpet/pad back before applying the stone. Then once the stone installation was complete, I would reinstall the carpet and pad up to the stone edge. I think this would give you the best look. Of course it will require some work...repositioning of the tax strip, cutting back the pad and carpet and re-stretching it. Just my two cents...
I have a garden tub and the base around it I would like to use this. So my question is can this be used around a bathtub? If so is there any special things I need to do to get this job done?
Thanks for the video. I was looking at this product for a fireplace in my basement but it has some outside corners. Does this product have corner pieces? If not, do you have any ideas on how to manage this without miter or lap cuts?
Hi Matt. I don't believe they have outside corners...if I remember correctly. You could also use another material on the sides of the fireplace and run it past the front plane 3/4" to hide the edges of the stone applied to the face of the fireplace only. Mitered corners or interlacing the joints would be the only other option.
Hi Lynne. You would need to provide a smooth surface before you can apply the stone. One way to do this is to screw cement board to the brick and then apply the stone to the cement board. Hope this helps...
My project is done and thanks to you it came out great! All of your advice was great and I couldn't have done such a good job without it. If I can find your email address I will send you some pictures of the completed job. Thanks again!!
Andrew, congratulations on a job well done! And thanks for letting us know...it's great to hear our advice is helping someone. You can send photos to info@armchairbuilder.com. Thanks
I've watched this video no less than 10 times! Great video and a huge help. Question. Did you remove the wooden supports under the bar ledge or cut around them? Did you use any type of edging at the end of the wall where you started the project? Wasn't sure if I want to leave it just a bare stone edge or use some type of corner molding. Thanks again for this video!! Andy
We wanted to use this stacked stone on the front facing of bathroom steps. The front side of the steps will be 3 levels of stone high and the stacks come 4 high. Is there a way to cut off a row to make them only 3 high without using a saw? This is a very small area and would not be worth buying a saw just for this application. Thanks for the help.
Hi Patrick. The stone comes glued together. You might be able to pull the last row off if you are careful. Just keep in mind, this is a soft stone so you want to be extremely careful so it doesn't crack/crumble. You probably already know this but some rental companies/home improvement stores have saws you can rent by the hour...something you might consider. Hope this helps.
Hello. Don't know if anyone is still monitoring these comments, but I have a question. I would like to install this as a feature wall in my living room. Of course, it's inside and it's a dry location. It's also not a wall that is on an outside wall of my house. You said this can be installed right on to drywall at 10 ft. My wall is 10.5 feet tall, exactly. Will this still be fine? Thank you.
So if you are separating the stone, then you have (2) different stone colors/product’s, where you have slightly different colors they are supposed to be installed random, I’ve been doing tile, and stone for (35) years, if you are separating the stone, you don’t want them to be anywhere close to each other, or separate them before you take the product home from the supplier.
Hi, thank you for this video. I want to install this in my great room where it is carpeted. But I may do hardwood flooring later in the future. I am considering building this on top of the baseboard, going up about 7 feet. If I decide to remove the baseboard now, how much space should I leave from the bottom to allow future installation of hardwood? THank you
Hi Zain. It really depends on how thick the hardwood is you will be installing. If you go with a manufactured wood product, it can be as thin as 3/8". If you go with the full thickness hardwood, it's probably going to be 3/4" thick. I would go with a little more space just to be safe and to give the wood installer a little extra wiggle room...so 7/8" should do it. Good luck with your project! Michael, Armchair Builder
Hi, I am making a fireplace. I put up drywall, not knowing about cement board, as we had a contractor put this on finished drywall before and had no issues. I am doing it myself this time and I just put up the drywall for it and I don't want to have to take it down and replace it. Do I need to do anything to the drywall to prepare it to have the stone placed on it, or does it just need to be primed? Right now, it is just bare drywall and I haven't filled in the seams or screw holes yet.
I wouldn't put stone over drywall any higher than 8 feet as the stone is just too heavy. You risk the drywall screws pulling through the drywall and the board/stone falling...this is why people use cement board. I would tape the seams and then prime.
I’m doing the same to my bar wall just like you did I’m using a eco prime grip then mortor then add the stone want to do my accent wall also but finishing up my bathroom renovation first then back to the accent wall
the manufacturer for the brand I want to use recommends a backer board be applied. with backer boards can it just be nailed directly over dry wall then apply the ledger or do I need to cut out the drywall and add the backer board? Very good video BTW
+Adivasworld You should be able to apply the backer board over the drywall. Just make sure the screws you use to fasten it to the wall a plenty long to get a firm grip on the studs. Remember, the screws will hold the board, mortar and stone...so there is quite a bit of weight involved. If you do apply the backer board over the drywall, you will have an additional thickness of board to cover up at the edges with either trim or stone...just something to think about.
Hi thank you for sharing your vid. I have a customer that I demoed her old tile and drywall around her fireplace. I replaced the drywall around the firebox (it’s a gas fireplace) With 1/2” drywall. She originally wanted tile but changed her mind to stacked stone like what you’ve done here.. So now I’m concerned about installing over the sheet rock but from what your showing it looks to be okay? The concern is the weight of the stone veneer. I was thinking about installing 1/4” backer board over the new Drywall around the firebox but it will raise the stone away from the wall 1/4” and I’d need to mortar or grout around the edges of the stone and I don’t like the idea of that look for this job. Does it say on the box of stone that installing over drywall is ok as long as it is at a certain height or do I need to try to call the manufacturer of the stone? Sorry for the long explanation. Thanks man.
Did you glue and screw the drywall? Getting a good solid bond while attaching the drywall is important in this case. If you did, you should be able to go up to 8 feet high. The cement board is the best option for high installations.
@@OpenBookBuild hi I screwed the drywall to the studs as normal but I did make sure to use more screws than normal. It’s a pretty small area. Probably 12 inches wide on the sides. So imagine a 4-1/2 foot tall x 5 foot long space with the 3 foot wide firebox. The stone is just to be installed around the firebox. I’ve done many tile jobs but I’ve not installed this type of stone before. My gut tells me it will be fine to do it over the drywall but I just wanted to be certain before I do it tomorrow. Thank you for getting back to me man.
okay thank you. I watched a another video on UA-cam where a company just installed over drywall and I could tell it wasn’t their first time doing it. They even installed the gas fireplace insert. And they did a pretty large section about 9 feet high. I know there are people who believe you can’t even “tile” over drywall, like around a fireplace or backsplash but you can and it’s done all the time. Thinset is a really good adhesive and it’s not all that easy to demo even tile adhered to drywall with thinset.
Hi Andrew, I want to install these outside of my house over the brown bricks. Will it work? and what adhesive should I used that will be good for the four seasons.
I'm installing these stone panels for my backsplash and around the base wall for my bar top. I want the panels to wrap around to cover the ends of my base cabinets as well. Currently my base cabinets have wood veneer on them. Would you recommend using cement board there or something else?
I want to use this as a back splash behind my sink: 2 questions. Do I need to seal this and does the sealing work to prevent water from sink (spaghetti sauce water from rinsing dishes) from staining the stone. I want to use the arctic ledgestone so it's pretty whitish. Second question. Do I need molding where the stone stops on the wall and if so, what kind do you recommend? Do I need brick molding? Thank you so much!
A sealer should help prevent stains from a little splatter here and there. But keep in mind, you really don't want this stone to get wet. The cracks between the stones will allow water to get through which can affect the adhesion to the wall.
We have a fireplace that is tongue and grove on 45 Deg angle. it goes up about 16ft above the mantle. About 8 ft wide. Will we be able to install this to our fire place?
Hi Mike. You need to make sure the tongue and groove is solid (meaning, secured properly to the wall). Then you will need to install cement board over top of it before you install the stone. This will provide a good, solid base for the stone to adhere to. Hope this helps...
Just a question please These sheets of quartz are glued with a mastic and I don’t think it’s fire rated. Can I install in around the fireplace over brick ?
I wouldn't install the stone inside the fireplace. But I don't think it would be a problem on the outside face. I would recommend contacting the manufacturer just to be sure.
When installing the ledgestone panels to the wall do they need to be staggered? I am wanting to make the least amounts of cuts possible. Also how long do I need to wait after using a wet saw for the stone to dry?
+placentiabayboy Unfortunately we don't have a video showing corners installed. But basically, you cut them like you would a piece of trim...with a miter. The tile on each side of the corner will be cut with a 45 degree angle to form a 90 at the corner.
I disagree with the poster. Drywall is paper covered. If it painted that’s just as bad. What’s under that paper or paint us irrelevant as you are really attaching the heavy stone just to the surface. Drywall is not suitable for this. You need hardibacker or cement board and it needs to be unfinished.
Can I install this over drywall painted with latex paint? If so are any special preparation or techniques required?Also, thanks for the video. My wife and I are looking forward to doing our fireplace wall. bdt
+B. Taylor Yes you can install this directly over painted drywall as shown in the video...up to ten feet in height. Anything over ten feet, you need special preparations.
We didn't use sealer but if you plan on using it as a backsplash near a cooking surface, you might want to. Otherwise, I don't see why you would need to.
iF SO YOU USE A MATTE SEALER & FINISH ON THE STONE PRIOR TO INSTALLATION IT MAKES IT EASIER TO CLEAN OFF THE THINSET THAT CONTAMINATES IT WHEN INSTALLING & PROVIDES A NICE GLEAM FINISH TO THE STONE AS WELL.
It can definitely be used for a fireplace. If you have tile up already, you will want to remove that first...it will make the installation of the stone much easier.
Hi Chris. I would take down the granite tile first. As strong as that glue is, the surface of the tiles are very smooth and will make a good grip difficult to achieve.
I want to use this as a face for my wood stove heat shield. Is this a poor choice? You mentioned that these pieces are glued together. Will the heat melt the glue? This is purely for aesthetics as it will be attached to cement board which is spaced an inch away from the wall to act as the actual heat shield.
I'm guessing the glue holding the stone together won't hold, but the mortar used to secure the stone to the wall would. I would contact the manufacturer to see what they say to be certain.
HI THERE...I WILL BE DOING THIS TO A WALL IN MY HOME..CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT BRAND OR THE KIND OF MORTER TO USE...I WNT TO LOWES TODAY AND THE SALES PERSON TOLD ME TO USE LIQUID NAILS OR HEAVEY CEMENT GLUE???? PLEASE HELP!!!
+Hileri Hornyak Hi Hileri! Don't use liquid nails...the stone will come loose over time. You want to use a heavy duty tile mortar...the kind made for larger tiles. This stone is heavy so you want something that will hold it in place. Talk to the person in the tile department and let them know what you need. Ask for the best quality mortar adhesive they have for larger tiles. That should do it.
Hi Joshua. We left if plan and caulked it. Thought about installing a 1x and running the stone into the 1x...but decided this would look better. Personal preference.
Hi George. You have three options. One: miter cut the corners on a 45 degree angle. Two: interlace the corner pieces leaving the ends of the stone exposed. Three: Stop the stone at the ends of the front face of the fireplace and either leave them exposed or apply a trim to cover the edge of the stone pieces. Hope this helps.
Yes. Because the panels are the same shape, you don't want to start each row with the same size piece because the seams will be much more obvious. By starting each row with a different sized panel, the seams will be staggered and will be harder to see.
Armchair Builder Understood. Im ready to do start this project and just wondering if it will make any difference if I use a white or gray morter. I bough a bag that is white.
***** Hey Galo. I would use gray just in case it gets on the face of the stone or squeezes out from the cracks between panels. The overall color of the stone is gray so it will blend in somewhat if it gets a little sloppy. You might also be able to see through the joints...and in that case, the gray would be better. Technically if the joints are tight and you are really careful, the white should be fine.
Where i want to do this veneer wall, my wall is like a Z, should i just start from the outside corner and finish to the inside corner hiding the cuts and leave the natural stone edges on the outside or is there something to put on the outside corners. I'm not really sure if you understand what in talking about
+Angel Esp Hi Angel. I think I understand. This particular stone doesn't come with corner pieces...at least none that I'm aware of. So, what you are proposing makes sense. You will end up with an unfinished edge of stone at the outside corner. If you don't like that scenario, you could add a piece of trim. For example, if the outside corner ends on a wall at the corner, you could add a 1x6 at the end of the wall to overhang just enough to cover the edge of the stone. Or you could get creative with different types of wood moldings. Hope this helps in some way.
Shari Marshall HI Shari. I would demo the tile first. Or, you could install cement board over the existing tile...but this will add thickness to the wall.
+Adivasworld The best way to remove base molding is...1) cut any caulk that might be between the molding and the wall/floor. 2) use small pry bar (the kind used for trim applications) to gently wedge between the trim and the drywall...if you can do this at the stud locations using a stud finder you will have less drywall damage, 3) gently pull the trim off the wall. If you are careful, you may be able to use the trim again.
Hi Bethany. I've never installed this stone over plaster. To be safe, you should probably ask the manufacturer. My guess is it would work, but better safe than sorry.
Gary McKinstry Hi Gary. Most stone/tile manufacturers don't recommend it. I believe the holding power of mortar or thinset is much greater than any tube adhesive. However, I would be curious to hear if anyone has tried it...I've been tempted to use tube adhesives for small jobs because of the ease of use and lack of mess (but have never tried them).
+soccerkingable I wouldn't. You won't get as good of a bond between the mortar and the brick. First install cement board over the brick (or just remove the brick) and then you are good to go.
Hi Adam. I don't think that will be a problem. Each piece that you set rests on the one below it. So as long as you mix the adhesive properly, you shouldn't have any issues.
Hi John. Assuming you are installing this indoors, it can be applied without felt and lathe as shown in the video (even installing over plywood...or drywall). Hope this answers your question. Michael
Hi Vince. Most of the manufactured stones require a more complicated installation with wire mesh and a scratch coat or a masonry substrate. It's best to check with the manufacturer of any stone you are looking at to see what they recommend.
Hi there. I wouldn't try to adhere this stone to a relatively slick surface. You want a surface with some texture to allow the adhesive to make a good bond.
@@OpenBookBuild I know what you mean, but the stone is not cut to perfection and sometimes there are small gaps and was wondering if you had a recommendation for something to use for that. Thanks!!
I think he used this one: www.lowes.com/pd/Anatolia-Tile-Desert-Quartz-Ledgestone-6-in-x-12-in-Quartz-Wall-Tile-Common-6-in-x-12-in-Actual-11-81-in-x-5-9-in/3477519?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-flr-_-google-_-lia-_--_-walltile-_-3477519-_-0&store_code=2879&placeholder=null&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=Cj0KCQiArdLvBRCrARIsAGhB_sxUqqu1LaH8fdHpHcxDxYn6tSee7MUM9S-ygQnS3x77aF8VR07oj1EaAh05EALw_wcB
+big tone malone I would not use liquid nails or any other construction adhesive for this stone. It is heavy and most likely will fail at some point in the future. It's best to use a mortar...check with your local store for the type best suited for the stone you ultimately purchase. Hope this helps...
Hi! Thanks for the tutorial! I am wondering if you have any recommendations for a good natural stone sealer as we are putting the stone for a backsplash?
+Saul Elizondo Hi Saul. It will work on textured walls that are solid structurally. Meaning, the mortar holding the stone to the wall needs something solid to adhere to. If the texture is too thick or not adhered well, the stone will come loose.
Armchair Builder...thanks much for this video! Just bought a bunch of this stone for a backsplash and your video is just what I needed to DIY the install with (a little bit of) confidence.
Hi Andrew. Great to hear! We actually left the wooden supports in place and cut the stone around them. For the edge, I struggled with this one. I think a small piece of trim could help hide the unfinished edge of the stone, but once they were in place, I didn't mind the edge so much. You could use a piece of shelf edge molding or maybe a quarter round. We left ours unfinished.
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For the outlet extender box, people are going to need to purchase 3" #6 machine screws. I put Airstone on my kitchen bar wall just like that, and the screws that came with the outlet extender were WAY too short. I bought a pack of 3" ones for about $1.49 and they worked beautifully.
I'm about to start doing this. I got 2000sq ft on clearance for $600. Excited to start
Thank you for posting this video. I'm doing outside work but your video gave me great points. Thanks
Great video. I want to install the same type stone above a kitchen counter backsplash. The work area height is 14"
Can this stone be installed on a builders, spray painted 3/4" drywall, that's 4 years old. I doubt they used a primer.
I would like to use a strong adhesive as the individual panels weigh 7 pounds.
If not, I'll could install a Hardie 1/4" backer board but I'm trying to avoid extending too far out on the existing counter backsplash.
Thank you!
You should use Hardyboard on top of the sheetrock. The stone weighs too much for just sheetrock application. Especially if your have tall ceilings. You don't want to have your stone come tumbling down during a small earthquake. If your just using it under a cabinet or countertop then you can decide if u want to risk it but if your going up a wall or above a fireplace definitely use Hardyboard.
Can you use plywood?
Did your stone have clear plastic behind the grid glued to the back of the stone
Do you need to seal this stone once its up? Beautiful job! This is the exact color im thinking of using in my current project!
I like the stone look. What should I use in the shower wall and in the bathroom walls
I just did a backsplash in my kitchen and dining. Looks amazing. I used the video to a t. My question is this. I have never even used a saw before so this was new to me but came pretty easy. My question is that when cutting this I did use a wet saw. Do I need to worry about silicosis from breathing in this material. I did the cuts all in my garage with the doors open. But definitely breathed some in if not a lot. It took me about a week, 3 hours a day. Please let me know if I have a health concern over this. Thank you
Hi there. Glad to hear the project went well. It's always a good idea to wear protection to prevent from breathing in the dust while cutting. If you want more info about the health affects, you should probably check with the manufacturer. They know the exact makeup of the stone and can tell you what the MSDS say.
Hate to bug you again, but your advice has been a life saver. Did you make parallel cuts in to the stone sections to cut around the outlet or just make a perpendicular all the way through the section, i.e. cutting it in half? I'm doing fine with the perpendicular cuts, but parallel, not so much. Thanks again.
No problem Andrew. We did a little of both. When there was enough material, we did make parallel cuts. I personally think it looks fine either way.
I'm convinced I can do this. Will definitely give this a try. Let me get my checklist together: drop cloth, protective eyewear, leveler, mortor, tile cutter and mortar? Am I missing anything?
Yeah make sure you have a good blade on the cutter and honestly I'd recommend using a better backer than plain drywall unless it's for a backsplash
My left ear enjoyed the video
I'm glad I read this comment it was at that moment I realized I had my ear bud's in the wrong ears thanks
Thanks for showing us how to do it, I am a female and a little creative and a little handy. I saw the ledge stone and I like it because it is natural. I also saw the air stone and I got confused to choose.I decided to do it myself for my fireplace. I saw your video clip and it is very helpful. My problem was do I need a cement board or can I do it on a dry wall.I got all the info I needed. I will do it in a week and I will email the before and after pictures.Thank you. Messi
Hey Messi. You can install this stone on drywall up to 10 feet high. If you're installation will be 10 feet or higher, you will need cement board. Good luck with your project.
Thank you so much, got a little busy with my kids and couldn't get much time for now. Definitely will do it soon when I get time and post it as I promised.Thanks again.
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Well, did you do it? It's been three years of me waiting for an update...😬
I'll be tackling this next week. Thanks for the tips!
I am going to build a wall for wife's new office. I want to use this style accent for the bottom with shiplap above it. Can I use plyboard that is primed rather than dealing with sheetrock? Or should I just go for duraboard? Although I have connections for plyboard at the price of free sometimes. Any thoughts?
I have some questions if the wall is painted in gloss, how to prepare a wall for the following installation, and what glue or cement is better use in this situation?
Looks great! I have 2 questions. 1. I am installing this quartz around my fireplace. Now it is just drywall. The fireplace has a metal "hood" above the fire. I presume this is to deflect smoke to prevent smoke damage above. I don't particularly like the look of it. Does the quartz absorb smoke and take on smoke staining? Should I re- install the hood? 2. I have 2 fireplaces to do. At the beginning of this video, you show a photo of a floor to ceiling fireplace. Do you know what kind of stone was used for that one? I love that look as it will fit in better in my heritage home.
+Ann Hogan Hi Ann. I haven't used this particular stone on a fireplace, so I'm not sure how badly it would stain from smoke. That being said, if you are worried about possible staining, I would use the darkest color material you can find...so any staining that does take place isn't so obvious. I can't say much about the hood since I don't have any details, but it sounds like it does have a purpose so I would think carefully before removing. The stone shown at the beginning of the video was a manufactured material which requires a more detailed installation process...including a scratch coat surface before installation. Hope this helps.
Can this be used outside to form short walls in a garden? What would it be attached to? Concrete blocks?
I bought this tile in white. I can see the yellow glue on the front face of the stones. Do you know how to get this glue off? Should I use sialic acid?
Hi, my Stones got very dirty and stains from fire from the fireplace. Can you please tell me how to clean them? Thank you so much!
Good video. I am applying this product to a fireplace, interior application over prepared drywall (previously painted, now upgrading to stone). The flooring is carpet (ugh).
My question is - you started with shims to achieve gap above flooring and level. With carpet that is more challenging. I am considering running a metal tile ledge similar to one you would use to complete a finishing edge to tile or a transition style metal. I would just screw it into the studs through the drywall and achieve a hard level edge to start my first row on. Thoughts?
As well, you wanted to know how PL works... I'll let you know. I spoke with a contractor who uses this product all the time and applies PL... so I will get back to you and let you know how my project turns out with it.
Thank you in advance. Al
+Lesal8403 Hi Al. The metal channel might work. But we only used the shims to leave a gap in case we replaced the tile floor in the future...the gap would give us some room to get the tile out without damaging the stone. Personally, if I had carpet, I would pull the carpet/pad back before applying the stone. Then once the stone installation was complete, I would reinstall the carpet and pad up to the stone edge. I think this would give you the best look. Of course it will require some work...repositioning of the tax strip, cutting back the pad and carpet and re-stretching it. Just my two cents...
I have a garden tub and the base around it I would like to use this. So my question is can this be used around a bathtub? If so is there any special things I need to do to get this job done?
It would be nice if lowes stocked the corner pieces too
Thanks for the video. I was looking at this product for a fireplace in my basement but it has some outside corners. Does this product have corner pieces? If not, do you have any ideas on how to manage this without miter or lap cuts?
Hi Matt. I don't believe they have outside corners...if I remember correctly. You could also use another material on the sides of the fireplace and run it past the front plane 3/4" to hide the edges of the stone applied to the face of the fireplace only. Mitered corners or interlacing the joints would be the only other option.
Great video and tips! can you apply this ledgestone directly to brick, as opposed to drywall, to cover an existing fireplace?
Hi Lynne. You would need to provide a smooth surface before you can apply the stone. One way to do this is to screw cement board to the brick and then apply the stone to the cement board. Hope this helps...
My project is done and thanks to you it came out great! All of your advice was great and I couldn't have done such a good job without it. If I can find your email address I will send you some pictures of the completed job. Thanks again!!
Andrew, congratulations on a job well done! And thanks for letting us know...it's great to hear our advice is helping someone. You can send photos to info@armchairbuilder.com. Thanks
I've watched this video no less than 10 times! Great video and a huge help. Question. Did you remove the wooden supports under the bar ledge or cut around them? Did you use any type of edging at the end of the wall where you started the project? Wasn't sure if I want to leave it just a bare stone edge or use some type of corner molding.
Thanks again for this video!!
Andy
We wanted to use this stacked stone on the front facing of bathroom steps. The front side of the steps will be 3 levels of stone high and the stacks come 4 high. Is there a way to cut off a row to make them only 3 high without using a saw? This is a very small area and would not be worth buying a saw just for this application. Thanks for the help.
Hi Patrick. The stone comes glued together. You might be able to pull the last row off if you are careful. Just keep in mind, this is a soft stone so you want to be extremely careful so it doesn't crack/crumble. You probably already know this but some rental companies/home improvement stores have saws you can rent by the hour...something you might consider. Hope this helps.
Thanks so much. We will try both suggestions.
Can I apply this product to an outdoor kitchen with cement board?
Hello. Don't know if anyone is still monitoring these comments, but I have a question. I would like to install this as a feature wall in my living room. Of course, it's inside and it's a dry location. It's also not a wall that is on an outside wall of my house. You said this can be installed right on to drywall at 10 ft. My wall is 10.5 feet tall, exactly. Will this still be fine? Thank you.
So under bar area with has paint and not textured I think it’s a thin wood can I do it directly or I need to add wood first ?
Just getting ready to start. Good points.
I love that color can you get that color in a faux panel
Heavy stone on drywall with mortar. Good idea
Stupid idea
So if you are separating the stone, then you have (2) different stone colors/product’s, where you have slightly different colors they are supposed to be installed random, I’ve been doing tile, and stone for (35) years, if you are separating the stone, you don’t want them to be anywhere close to each other, or separate them before you take the product home from the supplier.
Hi,
thank you for this video. I want to install this in my great room where it is carpeted. But I may do hardwood flooring later in the future. I am considering building this on top of the baseboard, going up about 7 feet. If I decide to remove the baseboard now, how much space should I leave from the bottom to allow future installation of hardwood? THank you
Hi Zain. It really depends on how thick the hardwood is you will be installing. If you go with a manufactured wood product, it can be as thin as 3/8". If you go with the full thickness hardwood, it's probably going to be 3/4" thick. I would go with a little more space just to be safe and to give the wood installer a little extra wiggle room...so 7/8" should do it. Good luck with your project! Michael, Armchair Builder
Hi, I am making a fireplace. I put up drywall, not knowing about cement board, as we had a contractor put this on finished drywall before and had no issues. I am doing it myself this time and I just put up the drywall for it and I don't want to have to take it down and replace it. Do I need to do anything to the drywall to prepare it to have the stone placed on it, or does it just need to be primed? Right now, it is just bare drywall and I haven't filled in the seams or screw holes yet.
I wouldn't put stone over drywall any higher than 8 feet as the stone is just too heavy. You risk the drywall screws pulling through the drywall and the board/stone falling...this is why people use cement board. I would tape the seams and then prime.
@@OpenBookBuild thanks. It is exactly 8'.
I’m doing the same to my bar wall just like you did I’m using a eco prime grip then mortor then add the stone want to do my accent wall also but finishing up my bathroom renovation first then back to the accent wall
the manufacturer for the brand I want to use recommends a backer board be applied. with backer boards can it just be nailed directly over dry wall then apply the ledger or do I need to cut out the drywall and add the backer board? Very good video BTW
+Adivasworld You should be able to apply the backer board over the drywall. Just make sure the screws you use to fasten it to the wall a plenty long to get a firm grip on the studs. Remember, the screws will hold the board, mortar and stone...so there is quite a bit of weight involved. If you do apply the backer board over the drywall, you will have an additional thickness of board to cover up at the edges with either trim or stone...just something to think about.
+Armchair Builder thanks.
Hi thank you for sharing your vid.
I have a customer that I demoed her old tile and drywall around her fireplace. I replaced the drywall around the firebox (it’s a gas fireplace)
With 1/2” drywall. She originally wanted tile but changed her mind to stacked stone like what you’ve done here..
So now I’m concerned about installing over the sheet rock but from what your showing it looks to be okay?
The concern is the weight of the stone veneer. I was thinking about installing 1/4” backer board over the new Drywall around the firebox but it will raise the stone away from the wall 1/4” and I’d need to mortar or grout around the edges of the stone and I don’t like the idea of that look for this job. Does it say on the box of stone that installing over drywall is ok as long as it is at a certain height or do I need to try to call the manufacturer of the stone?
Sorry for the long explanation.
Thanks man.
Did you glue and screw the drywall? Getting a good solid bond while attaching the drywall is important in this case. If you did, you should be able to go up to 8 feet high. The cement board is the best option for high installations.
@@OpenBookBuild hi I screwed the drywall to the studs as normal but I did make sure to use more screws than normal. It’s a pretty small area. Probably 12 inches wide on the sides. So imagine a 4-1/2 foot tall x 5 foot long space with the 3 foot wide firebox.
The stone is just to be installed around the firebox. I’ve done many tile jobs but I’ve not installed this type of stone before. My gut tells me it will be fine to do it over the drywall but I just wanted to be certain before I do it tomorrow. Thank you for getting back to me man.
okay thank you.
I watched a another video on UA-cam where a company just installed over drywall and I could tell it wasn’t their first time doing it. They even installed the gas fireplace insert. And they did a pretty large section about 9 feet high.
I know there are people who believe you can’t even “tile” over drywall, like around a fireplace or backsplash but you can and it’s done all the time. Thinset is a really good adhesive and it’s not all that easy to demo even tile adhered to drywall with thinset.
Hi Andrew, I want to install these outside of my house over the brown bricks. Will it work? and what adhesive should I used that will be good for the four seasons.
I'm installing these stone panels for my backsplash and around the base wall for my bar top. I want the panels to wrap around to cover the ends of my base cabinets as well. Currently my base cabinets have wood veneer on them. Would you recommend using cement board there or something else?
I have the white and it has lots of yellow glue all over. How do I get this manufacturing glue off the front?
I want to use this as a back splash behind my sink: 2 questions. Do I need to seal this and does the sealing work to prevent water from sink (spaghetti sauce water from rinsing dishes) from staining the stone. I want to use the arctic ledgestone so it's pretty whitish. Second question. Do I need molding where the stone stops on the wall and if so, what kind do you recommend? Do I need brick molding? Thank you so much!
A sealer should help prevent stains from a little splatter here and there. But keep in mind, you really don't want this stone to get wet. The cracks between the stones will allow water to get through which can affect the adhesion to the wall.
We have a fireplace that is tongue and grove on 45 Deg angle. it goes up about 16ft above the mantle. About 8 ft wide. Will we be able to install this to our fire place?
Hi Mike. You need to make sure the tongue and groove is solid (meaning, secured properly to the wall). Then you will need to install cement board over top of it before you install the stone. This will provide a good, solid base for the stone to adhere to. Hope this helps...
Hi , Could you make video with installation the same real stone, but may be slightly thicker, on the house fasad?
We will keep that in mind for a future project. Thanks
I just wish my wife hadn't seen this video.
Smack her
She sent me here 🤨🤨
Gents, just do it. You'll both end up loving it
I’m a single mom. I love DIY. Me and my teenage daughter do this together. Get your wife to help if she wants it! Team building!😁😁😁
Good video. I am installing the MSI this weekend as an accent wall in a half bath. Do I need cement board or can I go directly over the drywall?
For the stone in the video, you can go up to 10 feet high over drywall. For any other stone, you will need to check with the manufacturer.
Just a question please
These sheets of quartz are glued with a mastic and I don’t think it’s fire rated. Can I install in around the fireplace over brick ?
I wouldn't install the stone inside the fireplace. But I don't think it would be a problem on the outside face. I would recommend contacting the manufacturer just to be sure.
Armchair Builder
Thanks for the reply
When installing the ledgestone panels to the wall do they need to be staggered? I am wanting to make the least amounts of cuts possible.
Also how long do I need to wait after using a wet saw for the stone to dry?
You just want to make sure the colors are balanced. You don't need to wait at all after cutting the stone to apply to the wall...the moisture is good.
Is there a video using this product that shows how to do outside corners?
+placentiabayboy Unfortunately we don't have a video showing corners installed. But basically, you cut them like you would a piece of trim...with a miter. The tile on each side of the corner will be cut with a 45 degree angle to form a 90 at the corner.
What about inside corners? Also mitre cuts?
Great video! Can this be installed directly on my dry wall if I rough it up a bit? Thanks.
For sure.
I disagree with the poster. Drywall is paper covered. If it painted that’s just as bad. What’s under that paper or paint us irrelevant as you are really attaching the heavy stone just to the surface. Drywall is not suitable for this. You need hardibacker or cement board and it needs to be unfinished.
@@crosisofborg5524 Thank you so much for your advice and warning.
Might wanna mount cement boards for rigidity
Can I install this over drywall painted with latex paint? If so are any special preparation or techniques required?Also, thanks for the video. My wife and I are looking forward to doing our fireplace wall. bdt
+B. Taylor Yes you can install this directly over painted drywall as shown in the video...up to ten feet in height. Anything over ten feet, you need special preparations.
+Armchair Builder Hello, in my application I would be going up approximately 20 ft. on painted drywall. What special preparations are needed for this?
Do you have to use a sealer on this quartz? If so, which one is best as to not compromise the look of the stone?
We didn't use sealer but if you plan on using it as a backsplash near a cooking surface, you might want to. Otherwise, I don't see why you would need to.
great comprehensive video,you think like I do about projects,try to cover all the bases
will this work on fireplace?
Thanks! I'm doing this today!
I want to get a glossy look for the same wet looks sealer is not that glossy. can I use epoxy or polyurethane?
iF SO YOU USE A MATTE SEALER & FINISH ON THE STONE PRIOR TO INSTALLATION IT MAKES IT EASIER TO CLEAN OFF THE THINSET THAT CONTAMINATES IT WHEN INSTALLING & PROVIDES A NICE GLEAM FINISH TO THE STONE AS WELL.
Hi Armchair Builder
Can this be used for the fireplace? If so, can it be laid over tiles ?
It can definitely be used for a fireplace. If you have tile up already, you will want to remove that first...it will make the installation of the stone much easier.
Can you put this over granite tile with gorilla heavy-duty construction adhesive?
Hi Chris. I would take down the granite tile first. As strong as that glue is, the surface of the tiles are very smooth and will make a good grip difficult to achieve.
I want to use this as a face for my wood stove heat shield. Is this a poor choice? You mentioned that these pieces are glued together. Will the heat melt the glue? This is purely for aesthetics as it will be attached to cement board which is spaced an inch away from the wall to act as the actual heat shield.
I'm guessing the glue holding the stone together won't hold, but the mortar used to secure the stone to the wall would. I would contact the manufacturer to see what they say to be certain.
Thanks!
My contractor used some type of glue! Did he know what he was doing??
very good video and some great simple tips ,thank you
Can you please advice if this product "Ledgestone" Wall slate" from Lowes can be applied the same way as this one?
I'm not sure which product you are referring to. Can you give more details?
Great video Michael! Very helpful!
HI THERE...I WILL BE DOING THIS TO A WALL IN MY HOME..CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT BRAND OR THE KIND OF MORTER TO USE...I WNT TO LOWES TODAY AND THE SALES PERSON TOLD ME TO USE LIQUID NAILS OR HEAVEY CEMENT GLUE???? PLEASE HELP!!!
+Hileri Hornyak Hi Hileri! Don't use liquid nails...the stone will come loose over time. You want to use a heavy duty tile mortar...the kind made for larger tiles. This stone is heavy so you want something that will hold it in place. Talk to the person in the tile department and let them know what you need. Ask for the best quality mortar adhesive they have for larger tiles. That should do it.
+Armchair Builder THANKS A BUNCH!!!!!
it would be nice to see how you cut it around exterior windows etc
What did you do with the outside corner? I couldn't tell if you put some sort of trim or just left it plain.
Hi Joshua. We left if plan and caulked it. Thought about installing a 1x and running the stone into the 1x...but decided this would look better. Personal preference.
Wow, expensive stuff. My 9 x 14 wall would cost about $1000 or more in materials alone. Looks great though.
It costs us $100 in East Africa, Ethiopia.... We give you half a mountain for quarry for 99 yrs for $9999....Come invest...
Hi, I am using this product for my fireplace but what do I do with wrapping around corners?
Hi George. You have three options. One: miter cut the corners on a 45 degree angle. Two: interlace the corner pieces leaving the ends of the stone exposed. Three: Stop the stone at the ends of the front face of the fireplace and either leave them exposed or apply a trim to cover the edge of the stone pieces. Hope this helps.
Hello,
What do you mean that you need to stager the seams when you going up the wall? Do you cut each panel? Please help! Thanks
Yes. Because the panels are the same shape, you don't want to start each row with the same size piece because the seams will be much more obvious. By starting each row with a different sized panel, the seams will be staggered and will be harder to see.
Armchair Builder
Understood. Im ready to do start this project and just wondering if it will make any difference if I use a white or gray morter. I bough a bag that is white.
***** Hey Galo. I would use gray just in case it gets on the face of the stone or squeezes out from the cracks between panels. The overall color of the stone is gray so it will blend in somewhat if it gets a little sloppy. You might also be able to see through the joints...and in that case, the gray would be better. Technically if the joints are tight and you are really careful, the white should be fine.
Where i want to do this veneer wall, my wall is like a Z, should i just start from the outside corner and finish to the inside corner hiding the cuts and leave the natural stone edges on the outside or is there something to put on the outside corners.
I'm not really sure if you understand what in talking about
+Angel Esp Hi Angel. I think I understand. This particular stone doesn't come with corner pieces...at least none that I'm aware of. So, what you are proposing makes sense. You will end up with an unfinished edge of stone at the outside corner. If you don't like that scenario, you could add a piece of trim. For example, if the outside corner ends on a wall at the corner, you could add a 1x6 at the end of the wall to overhang just enough to cover the edge of the stone. Or you could get creative with different types of wood moldings. Hope this helps in some way.
Ok thanks, I think I will try with the molding
Hello, can this method be used directly over a tile mantle/hearth or do we need to demo the tile off first?
Shari Marshall HI Shari. I would demo the tile first. Or, you could install cement board over the existing tile...but this will add thickness to the wall.
Also, do you have a video showing how to remove the base boards?
+Adivasworld The best way to remove base molding is...1) cut any caulk that might be between the molding and the wall/floor. 2) use small pry bar (the kind used for trim applications) to gently wedge between the trim and the drywall...if you can do this at the stud locations using a stud finder you will have less drywall damage, 3) gently pull the trim off the wall. If you are careful, you may be able to use the trim again.
+Armchair Builder thank you!
Would you need cement board or a scratch coat to install this over plaster for kitchen backsplash?
Hi Bethany. I've never installed this stone over plaster. To be safe, you should probably ask the manufacturer. My guess is it would work, but better safe than sorry.
Was the stone already sealed? I recommend dealing before you install.
Much easier when they lay flat.
Jack Soxman you’re an idiot
Can you install wall stone or tile over 1/2" drywall using Pl200 in lieu of mortar?
Gary McKinstry Hi Gary. Most stone/tile manufacturers don't recommend it. I believe the holding power of mortar or thinset is much greater than any tube adhesive. However, I would be curious to hear if anyone has tried it...I've been tempted to use tube adhesives for small jobs because of the ease of use and lack of mess (but have never tried them).
Can you use mastic for the wall as well
Hi Andrew, can i install the ledger stone wall over brick without any other backing?
+soccerkingable I wouldn't. You won't get as good of a bond between the mortar and the brick. First install cement board over the brick (or just remove the brick) and then you are good to go.
Can I install 8' tall wall in one day?? Or Should split it 4' one day - wait till dry and day finish on second day??
Hi Adam. I don't think that will be a problem. Each piece that you set rests on the one below it. So as long as you mix the adhesive properly, you shouldn't have any issues.
Split it.
My question is if I install this around a fire place onto plywood should I use felt and lathe
Hi John. Assuming you are installing this indoors, it can be applied
without felt and lathe as shown in the video (even installing over
plywood...or drywall). Hope this answers your question. Michael
looks awesome! Thanks for the tutorial.
Will this work with the manufactured stone? What kind of mortar did you use?
Hi Vince. Most of the manufactured stones require a more complicated installation with wire mesh and a scratch coat or a masonry substrate. It's best to check with the manufacturer of any stone you are looking at to see what they recommend.
Wow, video is 10 years old. My only concern is the corner. Id prefer a corner that's more trimmed out.
Can this tile be installed against back side of cabinets (basically) the thin Formica wood ?
Hi there. I wouldn't try to adhere this stone to a relatively slick surface. You want a surface with some texture to allow the adhesive to make a good bond.
Armchair Builder ok. I'll put a piece of drywall up
1/8" semi rough cut would e perfect! Glue veneer to back of cabinet and good to go
Did you use anything to fill in the gaps after installing the stone?
Claudiu Medesan this stone is considered a dry stack. This means you secure it to the wall and you are done...no mortar is used between gaps
@@OpenBookBuild
I know what you mean, but the stone is not cut to perfection and sometimes there are small gaps and was wondering if you had a recommendation for something to use for that. Thanks!!
Question what kind of ledge stone was this? I wanted to install this on a 9 foot high fireplace could I do that?
I think he used this one: www.lowes.com/pd/Anatolia-Tile-Desert-Quartz-Ledgestone-6-in-x-12-in-Quartz-Wall-Tile-Common-6-in-x-12-in-Actual-11-81-in-x-5-9-in/3477519?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-flr-_-google-_-lia-_--_-walltile-_-3477519-_-0&store_code=2879&placeholder=null&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=Cj0KCQiArdLvBRCrARIsAGhB_sxUqqu1LaH8fdHpHcxDxYn6tSee7MUM9S-ygQnS3x77aF8VR07oj1EaAh05EALw_wcB
I was told that instead of mortor I could use liquid nail is that corrrect?
+big tone malone I would not use liquid nails or any other construction adhesive for this stone. It is heavy and most likely will fail at some point in the future. It's best to use a mortar...check with your local store for the type best suited for the stone you ultimately purchase. Hope this helps...
Will this work on a brick fireplace?
Andrew Dykes Yes you can. I did it and it looks great.
Hi! Thanks for the tutorial! I am wondering if you have any recommendations for a good natural stone sealer as we are putting the stone for a backsplash?
Hi Elissa. I really like the sealers made by Dupont. I believe Home Depot and/or or Lowe's carries it.
can you install over plywood?
Raul Fortified
Yes absolutely
What about installing over a painted wall?
Yes, that should be fine Michael.
Why is your " mortar" setting up so fast? Aren't you using thin set?
Wow! Great video.
can you put this on a fireplace?
Yes, you can install this as a fireplace surround.
How long did this wall take you?
This took about a day including setup and cleanup.
will this work on textured walls?
+Saul Elizondo Hi Saul. It will work on textured walls that are solid structurally. Meaning, the mortar holding the stone to the wall needs something solid to adhere to. If the texture is too thick or not adhered well, the stone will come loose.
+Armchair Builder thanks for you help wish me luck