"The Fall of 76" | Kip Reacts to Internet Historian
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2023
- Fellow Legends, welcome! Today we dive into a much-anticipated Internet Historian video, this time in the Fall of 76. Kip had firsthand experience watching a lot of this unfold, and oh boy was this a doozey. Every day the situation just got worse and worse. While the game is a lot better now, its roots were...sussy...to say the least. If you loved this content then I absolutely recommend you go and check out the original video to show some support for the source material!
Original Channel: Internet Historian
Original Channel Link: / @internethistorian
Original Video: The Fall of 76
Original Video Link: • The Fall of 76
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The fact that "Bethesda Ruins" is an actual location in Fallout 3 unnerved me as a kid
Who knew it already was a ruin well before any war broke out.
Bethesda is a a place in Maryland, which is close to Washington D.C. where Fallout 3 takes place. Bethesda's ruins would make sense to find in that game. It is very convenient the developers share the same name. They're definitely wallowing in their self-made ruins now😂
Fun fact: the only reason Fallout 3 takes place in DC is because that hack of a writer, Emil Pagliarulo bullied Todd into setting it there.
What a shame this IP went to Bugthesda and not Troika.
@@sijul6483Emil strikes again. :(
@@Gunsblazin94Convenient? Bethesda named themselves after the town. It's where the company was founded.
You don't need citations on claims made from inside a fictional world, Kip.
"why's the rum gone?"
I'm thankful that I'm not the only to make that joke when it happened
The box that would delete items was the "Infinite" one you got with the subscription.
So I didn't hallucinate that, dank.
Awful because the box ate people's items, dank I remembered.
@@KipReacts No it was real, the badge the subscription gave that people were rightfully bullied about was also real.
@@TitaniumKoopa I award Bethesda one yike
Oh yes the dev room. Turns out when you give the playerbase complete access to the engine with the creation kit they tend to learn how the engine works and sometines knows the engine better than the devs.
It wasn't even an essay on "what we did wrong". They literally wanted the exploiters to admit that they were using third party cheat software and that there were no bugs lmao
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Yeah the whole "asmongold how many dots to a line" can be summed up this easily :
"Once is a fluke
Twice is a coincidence
Thrice is a fuckin' pattern."
There was a guy with his buddies who were data miners I believe. They had spent tons of time on the game and made a whole map of the game and where to find things for players. One day they heard about a player using a bug that he abused to kill people on the server.
So they decided to figure out how it worked and messed with the bug numerous times to figure out exactly how it worked and how to fix it. They then notified Bathesda about it and told them exactly what it did and how to fix. Instead of thanking them for bringing it to their attention, they instead gave them all perm bans for “exploiting a bug”. The guy that was actually using it to harm others was only given like a 1-2 day ban. Bathesda refused to listen to them and claimed it was because they did the bug numerous times regardless that they were doing it to figure out how to fix it. The group in anger decided to shut down the map and any other things they did for the game.
My dad recently explained this phenomenon to me expertly.
He said there are two sides to every rule: The "Letter of the Law" and the "Spirit of the Law."
The Letter of the Law is what it sounds like: If you follow the letter of the law, you don't care WHY somebody did something; only that they did it in the first place. You could save an entire civilization, but because one guy died, you will be tried and hanged for murder. This manner of thinking is sadly common, since some people place the law above everything else in life, and believe there is more honor in following the law than in being a decent human being.
Then there's the other half. Following the Spirit of the Law means understanding the reason behind the rule and adhering to that reasoning when making a judgement call. Sure, those guys exploited a bug, but they were not doing it maliciously. Heck, that was BETHESDA'S job, and they did it for them! As long as they didn't use it on unwilling volunteers, no harm done, and since the Spirit of the Law is to prevent griefing, the law was thus not broken in this case, and therefore they are innocent. Sadly, few people understand this side of things, so incidents like those permabans still happen frequently.
Serves them right for being snitches
As someone West Virginia I hated this games existence
14:55 My favorite thing about the Canvas bag is that if you were upset with the nylon bag Bethesda could give you something like 500 Atoms (Their premium currency) in order to satisfy you. That amount, however, couldn't even buy the In-Game Canvas Bag from their e-shop!
Yep! I remember the Angry Joe bit on that.
It's like stabbing someone and then handing them bandage dipped hydrochloric acid.
@@Sammy-forgetaboutit-Tony no more like handing them a sheet of toilet paper oh it will slow the bleeding...for less than a second.
I just almost died laughing , when watching this video , a ad came on advertising Fallout 76 , telling me to "join vault 76" with the other 15 million people.
The joy in your voice when he finally got to the emotes. 😂
Considering the Fallout Seal Of Kwality, there was no way a multiplayer version was going to be anything other than hilarious.
i also remember the launch of this game, very well. because I live *in* West Virginia, in the exact area where they set the damn game. They had a whole damn festival here when Bethesda came to do interviews with people in my local area on the Mothman and do "research"
Bethesda: things aren’t up to the fallout standard
Everyone: but _why_ is the rum gone
Hey Kip, thanks for reacting to this video. Was most entertaining man. Hope to see more reaction video from you and wishing you good luck and good health in the future. Stay awesome you legend.
Thank you! I really appreciate it, more to come!
I never expected you to do this Kip.
It took me longer than I wanted to get to this, expect more Internet Historian soon.
I have NEVER bought nor seen any plastic bottle that has the aluminum lid that you must twist or bend to open.
Bottle is built different, built stupid.
@@KipReacts Built incorrectly.
That hopeful comparison to NMS was hilarious. Where Hello Games genuinely wanted to make a good game from the start and got rushed to release before they were ready, Bethesda went into this for a quick recycled-asset cash grab.
Man, that holiday emote bundle. I love how the "sale" made zero sense if you really thought about it. Think about every big retail store with holiday merch. Do they put them on discounted sale DURING the holiday? No. They always wait until after the holiday because that's when the holiday stops being relevant, people stop caring, and they offer a deep discount because how else are they supposed to get rid of this inventory and at least make something off it?
The lawyers were working overtime, and they were enjoying it.
The biggest insult about the Christmas "emote" bundle is that you didn't even get Christmas themed emotes. What you got were Christmas themed GIF skins that floated above your character while you just did the regular emotes. You literally paid "half price" for a bunch of fucking GIF cosmetics!
To the person in that chat that said "the game is so much better now" early in the video. Keep coping, theres no redemption story for you, this aint No mans sky, this is fallout 76 and its still an empty buggie experience. And not the fun bug kind that make you laugh just tehnical problems that destroy fun.
The review that said that its really fucking boring didnt lie, it still applies now.
Honestly, when IH talked about the Nuka Dark not being 'up to the Fallout standard', my first thought was 'they shipped vodka instead of rum, didn't they'?
Omg was waiting for you to find this one
Thanks for being patient! Sorry it took so long.
Things that have happened since this video:
Bethesda bans independent QA team for verifying and reporting exploits and bugs
Bethesda released an update that allowed players to steal each other's inventories accidentally.
Bethesda released a subscription model which divides the players into some sort of civil war.
And lastly, I still haven't received any word on where my bag is...
When the game came out you were suppose to have a Mr. Handy that would clean your base and such. Bathesda admitted that they simply “forgot” to put it in the game as a free item at launch, but then months later said they were going to put it in but now CHARGE for it.
Also remember how people begged for NPC’s, and they promised to come out with a patch or something that would add them to the game. However, they instead decided to postpone it and come out with the “Fallout First” which was a 1 year membership that would allow you to have your own private servers for you and your friends to play on.
The issue was that it turned out that this was full of many bugs as well and weren’t secure realms. Other random players could log on your server, loot all your chests, and log off to another server. Also this had those chests that would delete things you put in them.
I had so much hope for this game and then it turned into a complete dumpster fire.
I hear it's gotten better
@@Mare_Man imagine having bought it on release and having to wait 5 years for it to be an acceptable release though
@@Mare_Man Oh I know it turned out OK in the end but It took so long for it to become decent that its just not worth it.
What does "sixteen times the detail" even supposed to mean?!
I DONT UNDERSTAND 😂
Sixteen times what?! The prices in the atomshop maybe...
I sincerely hate that it's not illegal here in the US to give fake price cuts to items. Overwatch 2 just got into trouble for doing that a few months ago.
Legislation always lags behind on new trends, I get it. When are going on near a decade with loot boxes and digital price fixing we really need to get that on-lock.
Is it not illegal on a federal level?
It's illegal in the state I live in.
@@passingrando6457nope, it's actually common practice in most of the US.
At one point there was a department store (can't remember if it was JCP or Macy's) that tried to do honest pricing to try and gain customer good will, and their profits tanked so they reverted it.
I still can't believe nuka cola dark was just a fucking plastic bottle cover instead of a glass bottle
I can't believe their excuse for making the plastic one was "it's more expensive." So you sold an inferior product that cost MORE to make, instead of the better and CHEAPER one?!
Bethesda might genuinely be one of the most incompetent gaming companies on the planet, which is absolutely incredible considering their competition includes complains like blizzard, EA and activison.
Man, I first saw you react to Brandon Herrera. I found this at random in a reaction search and find the transition between your models tremendous.
It's night and day. Old Kip model was a time.
Last I remember seeing Todd was the last time the gave us news about Starfield which...was not exactly impressive looking.
honestly it would be really easy to make it so you cant enter the devroom, move it somewhere very far, make it a killzone, with tp zone around it and invisible walls around that, make the chests and stuff require a key/be whitelisted, make it a whitelist zone, there are so many options its stupid if they havent done anything
Truly a crazy time!!
"when was the last time weve seen todd...?" its not been long enough...
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Knew i had to like the vid on the rum joke alone, lol
The power helmet with mold happened after internet historian made this video
can you pls decrease your volume a bit? u are like 3x louder the the video, and it is VERY loud when you laugh. i enjoy these a lot though
Thank you for the feedback, I can adjust that accordingly.
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Yes. I want to see a video on the 1001 glitches of fallout 76.
I kinda want to go play now. Happiness is collecting beer steins for your home and hunting down those evil giant tics with a tesla rifle.
i wish i took a picture of it when saw it, but i swear to god one time i saw a PS4 in a Wal-Mart that had a Fallout 76 bundle and it was $100 less than a normal PS4
they were PAYING PEOPLE ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS TO TAKE THEIR INVENTORY
The game’s playable now, still buggy at times, but definitely better than it’s release. I had fun coming back to it after a few years. Only problem is the lack of new content, especially story or questlines. Got boring after a few months.
YOU SON OF A B I CAUGHT THAT CLEVER CUT AT THE END OF THE VIDEO
that shit woke me up i was spacing out there for a minute until the video was just about to end, then i heard you talking about Internet Historian making a clever cut right at the end of the video
AND THEN IMMEDIATELY AFTER MENTIONING IT THIS VIDEO ALSO ENDED ABRUPTLY
7:20 There actually was such guy😂
THATS THE FLAVOR TEXT FOR NUKA DARK.
Leaving my mark here
I seem to remember, at the time at least. People did give Bethesda a bit of a break on the Nuka Cola Dark Rum stuff, since a lot of it was more Silver Screen media. Though, not sure how much that sentiment has shifted.
He forgot about the deadly mold in the helmet
He didn't forget. It happened afterwards.
I don't know who this guy is, but i love his laugh so much
Please do the 3 hour video
Ambiguity in a contract or agreement finds in favour for the party whom didn't write the contract. In short, the failure to market the bottle as plastic is still on Bethesda legally.
I was one of the suckers who pre-ordered the game. As it crashed and erased my char for the third time and started hearing from everyone else how bad and empty the game was I gave up and uninstalled knowing I played a total of ten hours and wasted my money on this. My game time still stands to this day, even when I got my refund to this day.
Even now I refuse to play it and openly protests against pre-orders and crowed-funding indie projects.
Bethesda destroyed my faith in game-developers.
'Small' automatic weapon buff and reduced ammo crafting? Together? Methinks there be foul plots afoot.
I played the game for pretty much the entire first half of 2020, about 3-6 hours every morning while I listened to the news/podcasts/etc (during the early days of the Pandemic.) It was good mindless grinding, but after a while it just seemed like I just plateaued in terms of power, and I was too under-levelled to progress the story mission further, and levelling up in general seemed to slowed down greatly for me around level 50. I did try it again, several times, after Wastelanders/Steel Dawn/etc., but each time I lose interest within a couple hours. The 'new content' they added ended up feeling like what happens when you download a story mod for a Fallout game you've played to death - some stuff changes, other things clash, and there's a very noticeable change in quality between the two 'layers' of content.
It was a game made the wrong way, for the wrong reasons, with the wrong franchise. I'd rather play Rust.
Damn you Todd Howard!!
So when this game was coming out i had a decision this game or rent. The one time ive been glad i paid rent
This whole game was a CIRCUS, I have never seen a worse launch for a game before or since Fallout 76.
I swear kip just pre watches some of these videos
I actually have looked at this thumbnail in my feed for years and never watched this. I just happened to be watching Angry Joe, Yong Yes, and many others covering this in real-time.
Rip e3
15:45 are we gonna ignore the random Disney Kip?
Video youre watching isnt too loud but your mic peaks and blows my eardrums out with your random screaming.
hey kip I don't know if you know that but you're so much louder than the video especially when you laugh
You know, it's really ridiculous that they could program a means of flagging accounts in the Dev Room, but couldn't just check the names of players against the dev accounts and then automatically boot players out of the Dev Room the moment they entered the area. How bad are their coders if they can't replace flipping a boolean value on a player if it enters a specific area with a function to check names against a known list and just teleport unauthorized players back to some spawn point or the void under the map to die or something?!
Or literally just remove the dev room from regular servers, it only needs to exist for testing.
I remember when my ex boss buy that game with a smile on his face.... 😅 I just walk away and never come back
The business was close 6 months later. I say no more
Goofy ahh laugh
Ah yes America the country where if you are well know and have a lots of money you don't get in trouble for committing crimes.
76 was the perfect storm of shits and fans. there were thing they had no control over going to hell, things they had control over that went to hell, things that they had to absolutely take control over they did not, that one guy everyone but me it seems ignored, a few dumbass not supervising interns here and there, those guys in PR that knew there were gonna get fire and set shit up before still getting caught in it, and this absolute need to sell programming limitation as features
and the one funny controversy about "pay-to-win" came out BEFORE the PVP mode of nuclear winter, in which spending money into a skin could give you a third of an advantage due to better mimetical clothes, but since one of the most effective of said skins was doughnut brown with SHOCKING NEON PINK on it, it really did not repay itself
and also all those game breaking bugs, corrected one at the time only to reappear later in a new incarnation, accidental unbalances, and all
the thing is, that guy everyone ignored? one of the key programmer in the team that did the interview 3 day after the announcement, nearing the end of the E3? the guy flat out said that the whole thing would have been a massive tech demo to test bethesda ideas how they translated into a multiplayer world. I expected all of the crap, on the game exclusive side of things
on the other hand, the one thing I'm really miffed about, it's the nuka dark. "collectors food" here is virtually nonexistent, and with the exception of a couple of phallic bottle of spirits, forget about decorative bottles. I like decorative bottles, but ain't gonna go spend over 80 bucks just for one (and the risk it will never reach me because import marked it as going and took it for themselves). I just want some nice bottle to put aside the ones I actually will eventually drink in the cabinet!
Bug
So, I had played Fallout 76 since it is free on the Xbox Game Pass. I kid you not, the moment I spawned into the world, I fell through the map, and when I respawned, my C.A.M.P had inexplicably despawned. I had taken a break from it after that, and when I came back to the game, I was greeted with scorched that were either T-posing or just not even moving at all. Let's just say that the game is STILL in a garbage state.
lol your scream at 16x the detail. Literally distorted your audio
No Bethesda did not make the game better.
I miss your bottom kip model
I still have it. I've been trying to find a way to work it in.
@@KipReacts while I greatly appreciate you responding, why did you respond to this? I didn't even think you would see
Listen, don't get me wrong, I've loved every Fallout and Elder Scrolls title released thus far, even 76. If you could get past the bugs it was actually a good game with an interesting setting. I would have loved to have it as a single player game, of course, but that's beside the point. The games are always buggy as hell. It's kind of a charming failing in a way. This whole situation from start to finish was a failure of epic proportions. So many balls got dropped that the entire fanbase went through a second puberty, and I, as a pre-orderer of the Power Armor Edition was not happy to experience it. Was I super disappointed? Of course. Not excusing the company at all here, but it's been years, and I think I'm over it mostly. It just really sucked at the time.
Wait fallout 76 was good when
Eyyy kip ya want a goodie? Look up a certain h game called BREEDING SEASON... It was interesting what happened there.
To be fair on the rum none of those images looked glass period even the ingame looks like plastic the entire issue with f4 and 76 nuka cola is it looked like a plastic rocket
Glass is transparant and when its nit its glossy due to how none transparant glass refracts light , these images are all matt black no gloss no transparancy thats clear plastic to anyone thinking for twoseconds
HEADPHONE AND BLUETOOTH USERS, WARNING!!
FUCK BRO, I HAVE TO PUT THE VOLUME TO NEAR ZERO AND I STILL HAVE EARS BLEEDING!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤕
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The game now is in many ways better but in some ways worse. I would reccomend anyone check out Patrician TV's four part series on it
OMG YES DO THE JOSEPH ANDERSON VIDEO I BEG OF YOU
your uh.. rig(?) is doing a terrible job following your lip movements and head... maybe its the constant screeching and ultra high pitched "YEESS" and giggles... i dont know, im no "rig" expert.... *yet*