DEBATE: Shabir Ally vs. Mike Licona (Did Jesus Rise from the Dead? 2004)

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  • Shabir Ally and Mike Licona debate the question "Did Jesus rise from the dead?" The debate took place at Regent University in Virginia Beach.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 7 тис.

  • @protactics406
    @protactics406 Рік тому +458

    As a Christian I am happy we can get together and discuss these topics in peace and leave in peace.

    • @Carlos-sr8km
      @Carlos-sr8km Рік тому +14

      I didn’t come to bring peace but a sword

    • @Nabad-deed
      @Nabad-deed 11 місяців тому +4

      @@Carlos-sr8kmwhat is this supposed to mean?

    • @klaw1425
      @klaw1425 11 місяців тому +1

      But the truth must be told

    • @carloswater7
      @carloswater7 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@@Nabad-deedyou won't get an answer because even Muslims don't know

    • @nestor3459
      @nestor3459 11 місяців тому +4

      Be discernful friend

  • @asadbegad1
    @asadbegad1 5 років тому +305

    Man, I love educated religious people!!

  • @abu-shoaib4670
    @abu-shoaib4670 10 місяців тому +276

    As a Muslim, I think Mike Licona is a sincere believer in God. May God help Muslims and Christians triumph over the wicked agenda being pushed by the devil

    • @user-pm4wx4jq4o
      @user-pm4wx4jq4o 9 місяців тому +8

      Just drop it all brother

    • @rocksmichael3845
      @rocksmichael3845 9 місяців тому +6

      Ameen ya Allah

    • @Sinha010
      @Sinha010 9 місяців тому

      Islam is diabolical. Mutah, black stone worship, pedophilia, lies and violent conquest are all defended by the quran.

    • @user-ly6mp2dd7k
      @user-ly6mp2dd7k 9 місяців тому +18

      When Jesus told Peter that he was going to be crucified, Peter said " this shall never happen to you. Jesus replied " GET BEHIND ME SATAN ". Jesus said ANYONE THAT DENIES THAT HE WENT TO THE CROSS IS SPEAKING FOR THE DEVIL. HIS RESURRECTION WAS OUR Victory OVER DEATH. NOW WE CAN HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. THIS IS WHY HE WAS BORN OF A VIRGIN. GOD WAS NOT JUST SHOWING OFF. GOD WANTED ALL EYES FOR THE ALL TIME TO BE FIXED ON JESUS. MIRACULOUS BIRTH, THEN RAISED FROM DEATH. WHY?

    • @thecrimsondragon9744
      @thecrimsondragon9744 8 місяців тому +2

      May the Great Devil help us to defeat the great enemies of humanity - Allah and Yahweh!

  • @emerald7857
    @emerald7857 5 місяців тому +31

    These two (Shabir and Mike) really gave me insight into what real patience looks like. I love how they didn’t get frustrated with each other but spoke earnestly through out. Brilliant debate, learnt so much as a Muslim. Honestly there was a few moments where my mind wondered just thinking about isa/jesus and all that he went through. I can’t wait to visit Palestine just to feel the ground of where he once walked.

    • @ubahmohyadin4503
      @ubahmohyadin4503 4 місяці тому +3

      It's my dream too🇵🇸💕😊

    • @guyhuy
      @guyhuy 4 місяці тому +4

      free palestine

    • @Haggseeker
      @Haggseeker 3 місяці тому

      Lol mike did

  • @evermateo6166
    @evermateo6166 5 років тому +780

    These gentlemen were able to respectfully have a discussion on their beliefs. The rest of the world should follow this example.

    • @samimas4343
      @samimas4343 5 років тому +25

      Yes. This is the call of the Quran. God orders muslims, in the Quran, to debate and have discussions with the people of the book in a wise and a good manner.

    • @fredericktaylor3237
      @fredericktaylor3237 4 роки тому +3

      Ever Mateo very professional. You’re dead ass right

    • @xxphillips
      @xxphillips 4 роки тому +9

      Sami Mas Quran verse please

    • @dankussma645
      @dankussma645 4 роки тому +13

      @@xxphillips thats total delusion. there is no such verse. he is lying deligently

    • @incineratorium
      @incineratorium 4 роки тому +22

      @@xxphillips And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him
      Quran 29:46

  • @hmdchy
    @hmdchy 5 років тому +813

    Shabir is very sharp!! he talks without muttering and hesitation, very eloquent and amazingly knowledgeable.

    • @robertcorona5394
      @robertcorona5394 5 років тому +51

      The Muslims got embarrassed big time the Quran got embarrassed big time!!

    • @gentle2587
      @gentle2587 5 років тому +60

      Robert Corona just stop lol

    • @greattunesking1
      @greattunesking1 5 років тому +29

      Hamad Yes, Demons are spiritual expert's at hammering away at stopping the real truth. Everything from the bible absolutely proves that everything happened exactly as the Word of God implies. Only a man of Demonic Hatred would toss Grenades at the Crucifixion of Gods only Begotten Son. I will pray for Shabir Ally.

    • @gentle2587
      @gentle2587 5 років тому +15

      Classic Christian With absolutely no argument.
      Pray for your last brain cell to understand.
      Close the satanic Violent book &
      And question your masters.

    • @pr7049
      @pr7049 5 років тому +5

      Please watch what arabian prophet in his videos thinks of Shabir Ally.

  • @Junior-yt6cx
    @Junior-yt6cx 8 місяців тому +8

    16:89 "And We have revealed the Book to you which has clear explanation of everything, and a guidance, mercy and good news for those who submit."

  • @trekpac2
    @trekpac2 7 місяців тому +18

    This was such a MARVELLOUS debate. Thank you so much. I loved it.

    • @sidaligada3112
      @sidaligada3112 3 місяці тому

      Shabir is cunning He moves away from the essence of the debate

    • @sidaligada3112
      @sidaligada3112 3 місяці тому

      The Quoran produces hateful people and the most trouble maker in the history of mankind

    • @sidaligada3112
      @sidaligada3112 3 місяці тому

      You can not get wisdom or spiritual reason from someone who is an unbeliever

  • @TheMrpalid
    @TheMrpalid 4 роки тому +502

    As a Muslim I’m thankful for the unedited upload and the polite discourse of the speakers. Peace ✌️

    • @Timakiwala
      @Timakiwala 2 роки тому

      All God's on this earth is man-made.. Formation of the Earth starts from 4600 millions of year ago..
      See the evolution of man, started from 208 millions of year ago, first human appears called Homo Sapiens around 144 millions of year ago in Mesozoic era..... Then from where these God's appears ?????,, Then Cenozouc era starts... & perfect man/wemen started ....No existance of any God mentioned..
      From so-called God's:::Religions are invented to make partition between human to human. & Because of God's & Religions killings of human being, fighting, clashes etc are on the Earth..
      Muslims, Christian, Hindu, Hibru, etc are formed in a groups to FIGHT.

    • @cmtxmeltown3546
      @cmtxmeltown3546 Рік тому

      If I proved to you with Muslim literature that Mohammed was a false prophet what would you do?

    • @edisongroupltd
      @edisongroupltd Рік тому +1

      😊o

    • @redsun5681
      @redsun5681 Рік тому +6

      What polite did you see from Mike liconas side? Throwing bombs and mention he's 9 year old son
      evil sarcasm!.

    • @lookman-2844
      @lookman-2844 11 місяців тому

      Christians can prove nothing they assert, it is just fables.

  • @werWeis5779
    @werWeis5779 Рік тому +32

    Proud of u brother licona!
    As well I gotta admit as a Christian how respectful and therefor respectable Shabir ally is!

    • @Haggseeker
      @Haggseeker 3 місяці тому +2

      So let's love each other against the evil world dictation. Having differences and respecting them will make us great Humans

  • @4thDegreeKnight
    @4thDegreeKnight 10 місяців тому +6

    Knowledge without Faith is useless.
    God bless all!

  • @DRDEEBB
    @DRDEEBB 9 місяців тому +13

    Professional debate. Both very respectful and debated in depth. Love it.

  • @Nameless-pt6oj
    @Nameless-pt6oj 2 роки тому +19

    Came here because Nabeel said this was the debate that convinced him that the case FOR the resurrection was stronger than AGAINST.

    • @ahmedvawda1282
      @ahmedvawda1282 9 місяців тому +1

      I want to find out if all those dead people who walked the streets of Jerusalem after Jesus alleged resurrection, find their way back under ground?

    • @24kgenie67
      @24kgenie67 7 місяців тому

      ​@@ahmedvawda1282are you on drugs?

    • @lamoudienawezi8479
      @lamoudienawezi8479 4 місяці тому +3

      Same

    • @kayelolita7230
      @kayelolita7230 2 місяці тому +3

      I came here for the same reason...and that's many years after he died. Yet even in death, he still evangelize the truth. Eternal rest be granted unto him and may the perpetual light of God shine upon him forever.

  • @hanialturk5981
    @hanialturk5981 4 роки тому +373

    As Muslim I respect Mike Licona. I don’t agree with him but I do respect him

    • @xxphillips
      @xxphillips 4 роки тому +13

      Hani Alturk You seem like a honest Muslim I think Allah made a mistake if Islam is true Allah knows everything before it happens. If Allah was going to rise Jesus to him self anyway why did he not rise him before anyone needed to be made to look like him so there would of been no historical records of Jesus being crucified?? please tell me a good reason for Allah not taking Jesus up to him self before a false belief was made?? How has making some one else look like Jesus helped Islam or Christians to become Muslim?

    • @hanialturk5981
      @hanialturk5981 4 роки тому +32

      xxPhilips my answer will come from an Islamic stand point and it’s the Quran. We Muslims believe and claim that the Quran is the literal words of God, and since Allah is all knowing, all powerful then Allah in the Quran says Jesus was raised and saved from crucification, I would have to believe it’s true. You will have to challenge that the Quran is not the words of God to disapprove the Islamic narratives on Jesus.

    • @xxphillips
      @xxphillips 4 роки тому +10

      @@hanialturk5981 Do you think it will be hard for me to prove the Quran is not the literal words of God?

    • @xxphillips
      @xxphillips 4 роки тому +4

      @@hanialturk5981 Do you believe Islam is man made or Allah made it or something else?

    • @hanialturk5981
      @hanialturk5981 4 роки тому +11

      xxphilips, Quran challenge you to do it. Falsifications test is in the Quran. if you can do it with empirical evidence then i will convert to atheism tomorrow. It hasn’t been done in 1400 years

  • @JesusM.Sarmiento-ds2kw
    @JesusM.Sarmiento-ds2kw 6 місяців тому +6

    Oerall, it was a good debate. Thank you. God bless!

  • @telishacaldwell4648
    @telishacaldwell4648 4 місяці тому +5

    Very good gave me such information and insight

  • @pakipal3280
    @pakipal3280 5 років тому +504

    Mike Licona have steel balls , He Uploaded this debate Hats off . Not many christian debaters can do this...

    • @jivin1982
      @jivin1982 5 років тому +8

      Mike Licona maybe not a liar, he just re post this debate for educational purposes.

    • @nomorezoutsbats9707
      @nomorezoutsbats9707 5 років тому +53

      Jivin Quezon
      He won. Why wouldn’t he post it?

    • @jivin1982
      @jivin1982 5 років тому +71

      @@nomorezoutsbats9707 are you sure? watch again and listen. heehehehe

    • @endykakiay6657
      @endykakiay6657 5 років тому +44

      @@nomorezoutsbats9707 dude did you actually watch this??

    • @AbuBakr.Abdullah
      @AbuBakr.Abdullah 5 років тому +12

      @@nomorezoutsbats9707 good one hahahaha

  • @JassimBjj
    @JassimBjj 4 роки тому +45

    I'm a Muslim.
    Great debate between the two. Shabir Ali well done brother. Even though it's (the video) over a decade ago.

  • @veronicarobley7263
    @veronicarobley7263 11 місяців тому +7

    This was great,i sat through the full Debate.

  • @benhutchins5594
    @benhutchins5594 4 місяці тому +4

    For the last time it's called FAITH believe in something you couldn't prove is scientificly real that faith and gods mercy is key to our salvation

    • @morrisallensheriff5241
      @morrisallensheriff5241 2 місяці тому

      Ok
      So the people who are worshipping idols are also right right? Because they've faith in them and they believe them
      Having faith in something, doesn't mean it's automatically right, you might have faith in something and be very sincere about it, but it might be wrong, Those who worship idols say the same, Adulf Hitler believed he was upon the right, so if you take your assessment, they're all right. To think that a man can be a god, is illogical, because men do not think they're god, people can called them gods, but they're not, like Jesus, like Cyrus, like Many other men in history whom were considered gods after they left the earth. So we should believe it? God said in the book of ISIAH
      That God is not a man

  • @ntenzz1808
    @ntenzz1808 3 роки тому +55

    All respect to Mr Licona, for uploading this in full.

    • @carolleos6816
      @carolleos6816 6 місяців тому +1

      The Apostles saw Jesus after he was resurrected and Thomas challenged Jesus who showed his wounds from the crucifixion. Not one one deciple ever refuted Jesus' resurrection. Jesus is the only one known for healing people and raising someone from the dead as he raised Lazarus who had been dead for days and his body was disintegrating. No one else spoke ideas unique in Jesus's day such as loving your neighbor.

    • @adrianawalisch9014
      @adrianawalisch9014 2 місяці тому

      @@carolleos6816❤️💯💯❤️

  • @mandidissportsworld4576
    @mandidissportsworld4576 5 років тому +333

    am chrestian,,but after this debates have to check my believes and use logic in it,,,this guy ally is so sharp and logic

    • @jasonbabilonia3037
      @jasonbabilonia3037 5 років тому +31

      Moulay Mandidi u need to check your spelling lol

    • @afiumer7752
      @afiumer7752 5 років тому +14

      Watch Ahmad Deedath

    • @1TalldrinkH2O
      @1TalldrinkH2O 5 років тому +25

      Yes, he is sharp. I believe that is why 1 Peter 3:15-16 reminds us,
      "but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence; and keep a good conscience so that in the thing in which you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ will be put to shame." May this experience help us to grow in our faith in Christ Jesus.

    • @fransbrian
      @fransbrian 5 років тому +9

      Is Sabir Aly same as Ahma Dedat, or Zakir Naik? Watch Christian Prince

    • @fransbrian
      @fransbrian 5 років тому +17

      @@afiumer7752
      Watch Christian Prince, and not only watch, but also call him to debate, and you will lose your faith.

  • @barackobama3719
    @barackobama3719 8 місяців тому +9

    you can tell mike takes this seriously and i respect that

  • @PhilipJanifer-ck1vq
    @PhilipJanifer-ck1vq 24 дні тому

    Good Morning
    Thank You all for putting on this debate. I enjoyed every minute.
    Well Done
    Spirited Discussion
    💓🙏🏾😊

  • @littlebear231
    @littlebear231 4 роки тому +149

    I am in awe of the respect they have for one another and their differing faith. I pray for Mike and Ali that the Lord will bless them abundantly and bless those that watch this video. These two are amazing examples of how we are to love and respect each other's beliefs. God Bless.

    • @jamescarlin569
      @jamescarlin569 2 роки тому +6

      i wish the world can be like that seriously.very refreshing

    • @nabilsalim1108
      @nabilsalim1108 2 роки тому +2

      On point!!

    • @Hannestv4607
      @Hannestv4607 Рік тому +3

      All religions presented themselves as Llies when they denied Jesus his sacrifice!
      God is holy and therefore inevitably always righteous. So God can never be merciful, gracious, because grace is not justice and therefore is wrong! A holy God can only be holy if he Never does wrong !! So Fact is without Jesus his SACRIFICE out of love for us we would all be lost! Only YHWH is not lying when he says he is HOLY and merciful! Who is YHWH equal? Exactly no one!!
      JESUS gave himself as a sin offering !! A pure life for a life !! Because we have to be holy = without guilt otherwise God will judge us fair and just !! Jesus is YHWH and thus the Creator of everything and thus has the weight to wash the whole creation clean with these pure lives (Blood) !! God bless you

    • @izzyaisa3179
      @izzyaisa3179 Рік тому +3

      @haraldtv4607 Christians are confused in understanding what God is and what God does. What God is is the owner of majesty and perfection and he is the Almighty Creator of the heavens and earth, he created death and life and his perfect attributes never change, GOD IS IMMORTAL HE DOES NOT DIE, what God does however, he does as he wills in his infinite wisdom, Almighty Allah is far above his creation and does as he pleases, Almighty Allah is able to forgive the sin of his servants through his infinite mercy without any pagan like sacrifices let alone attributing partners or a son to the Almighty who is unlike his creation or anything that the mind can imagine that is the ultimate injustice/blasphemy to God and is a very grave sin (if one does not repent from it before death). Christianity is a word that came well after Jesus pbuh left as he did not call himself that and it was then heavily influenced by the pagan traditions of that time much after Jesus pbuh was gone. Then the corruption and confusion in the bible began, that's why you find many different books and gospels by so called men such as Paul who claim to have had "visions" and or "inspiration" from God, altered the true message that Jesus pbuh originally preached to the lost tribe of Israel and not to humanity which was to worship one God as he said he did not come to abolish the law. Also the arrival of the prophet mohamed pbuh was mentioned in the bible as the paraclete which means the comforter the counselor. Hope this helped. May Allah guide, forgive and keep us on his straight path. Ameen. I invite everyone to read the blessed Qur'an.

    • @TexasHoosier3118
      @TexasHoosier3118 Рік тому +6

      @@izzyaisa3179 Islam is a mixture of pagan religions with some erroneous Jewish and Christian teachings added. The Qur'an does not say the Bible is corrupt. Muhammad said that the Qur'an gets its authority from the Bible. Muslims today by the millions have dreams and visions of Jesus, and become Christian. The word Christian is found on the book of Acts. Paul did many miracles, Muhammad did not.

  • @coldtruth6354
    @coldtruth6354 4 роки тому +8

    Interesting..always love discussions and debates like this.

  • @knowthings489
    @knowthings489 9 місяців тому +3

    It's not always about who won the debate it's about having civil discussion about faiths loved the video

  • @samsonadebayo8626
    @samsonadebayo8626 2 місяці тому

    Im glad i found this, get them to do this again now and you will see a huge difference. Christians just really got intentional about properly analyzing their faith and Im loving it.

  • @lagendary1137
    @lagendary1137 5 років тому +496

    wow Christian channel but many Christians comment admits shabir ali won,and respect to mike licona for upload this video

    • @shayneby
      @shayneby 5 років тому +22

      lagendary 11
      Which means Abduls are following their Taqiya master on UA-cam. Still running away from Christian Prince. Go and get busted 😂😃

    • @MKOladapo
      @MKOladapo 5 років тому +6

      @F.A F.A tell me one lie Christian Prince has ever made and your reference

    • @MKOladapo
      @MKOladapo 5 років тому +7

      @F.A F.A It is not compulsory for him to show his face. Many have received death threat as a result of criticizing Islam.
      2. I have listened to many of his videos without paying a dime. Giving him anything is out of will. If I love what he is doing and I want him to continue doing so, I can encourage him with my substance. Every organisation needs funding. Without fund they will go down.
      Besides, of all his videos I have watched he has never asked for fund. He only advertises his books, that's all.
      3. You don't need to show face to make a point. If he is comfortable with that, and making a difference, let him be.
      As for me, he is good at what he(CP) does and he is also wise.
      Many people are dead for criticizing Islam, Quran, sharia law, Saudi Arabia government.
      So, what do you have to say?
      And if there any false allegations CP has ever made, I want to know.

    • @MKOladapo
      @MKOladapo 5 років тому +4

      @F.A F.A that means you don't understand the bible and what Christianity is!

    • @MKOladapo
      @MKOladapo 5 років тому +4

      @F.A F.A can you see you just lied. Not only they (ex-muslims or anti -islam) get disowned , some get killed and some being threatened and injured.
      They(muslims) have their backing to kill and threaten whoever disobey Allah from the Quran and Hadiths!
      In my country, I got a case, where someone was eating during this Ramadan, and was severely injured. What can you say to that?
      See, we need to say it as it is.
      If truly you are religious, you are supposed to be honest as well.
      Any religion without honesty is hypocrisy.

  • @user-eb6lb8sq3s
    @user-eb6lb8sq3s 2 роки тому +24

    Love to watch such debates, educated people always have respect for each other. Both of them are respectful. ✊🏻

  • @notoftentold4076
    @notoftentold4076 9 місяців тому +92

    Its very easy for any sincere person to find the truth. Thats why im a revert to Islam now. Alhamdulillah.
    - From Denmark

    • @Peanut888..
      @Peanut888.. 9 місяців тому +1

      What made you go back ?

    • @gardeneroftheeveningstar
      @gardeneroftheeveningstar 9 місяців тому +1

      yes, what made you? go back.

    • @phewphew1288
      @phewphew1288 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@gardeneroftheeveningstarthe truth of cause

    • @Peanut888..
      @Peanut888.. 8 місяців тому +1

      @@phewphew1288 The Truth ??? Islam the truth look at the conduct of your exemplar !

    • @gardeneroftheeveningstar
      @gardeneroftheeveningstar 8 місяців тому

      this is a general statement. i can only assume. any elaborations? or i'll stick to this "the truth of cause" ?@@phewphew1288

  • @khalilkhud1623
    @khalilkhud1623 5 років тому +107

    And the winner is ?
    SHABIR ALI
    May Allah bless you brother SHABIR

    • @khalilkhud1623
      @khalilkhud1623 5 років тому +5

      It's completely the opposite side of what you are saying

    • @khalilkhud1623
      @khalilkhud1623 5 років тому +5

      Its completely the opposite from what you are saying islam is not false but Christianity is nothing makes
      Sense in Christianity one person is × 3 the father the son and holly spirit, Christians
      Can't proof anything what they say, but Islam have proof for everything

    • @hara3435
      @hara3435 5 років тому +2

      @@khalilkhud1623 yes you are so ignorant like rest of your cult you must stop marrying your cousins lol boring.
      P.s Christian Prince

    • @mosasa1307
      @mosasa1307 5 років тому +5

      @@hara3435 Cult... also you ignore your state Alabama... But hey lets not go that direction and be a good humans, like it states in your bible, I respect you, you respect me back.

    • @hara3435
      @hara3435 5 років тому +4

      @@mosasa1307 I dont know alabama? I am not usa...
      Brother, you are right...&
      I apologize for offending you
      I respect your right to follow
      whatever you want.... peace.

  • @alevtinamikhailov1537
    @alevtinamikhailov1537 5 років тому +149

    Mike was more emotional in his speech, to justify Jesus is the "son of God". Shabir provide solid facts and logic compared to Mike. But I respect Mike to have the balls to debate Shabir.

    • @HansWurst-se9hm
      @HansWurst-se9hm 5 років тому +4

      Shabir ally is a kid.

    • @HansWurst-se9hm
      @HansWurst-se9hm 5 років тому +1

      @Shad Sulaman Just watch The arabian Prophet debatting sheikh abdul wadood. I promise you you leave islam after this debatte.

    • @HansWurst-se9hm
      @HansWurst-se9hm 5 років тому +2

      Shabir ally cannot even speak arabic. I mean come on

    • @kas12324
      @kas12324 4 роки тому +7

      @@HansWurst-se9hm In what language was the old/new testament written?

    • @wanzikrylds
      @wanzikrylds 4 роки тому +7

      @@HansWurst-se9hm how dumb are you bro?

  • @ChemysteryKids
    @ChemysteryKids 7 місяців тому +6

    Notice how he says that Muslims should not put Muhammad above other prophets such as Jesus, but he says peace be upon Muhammad every time he mentions his name but he does not when he mentions Jesus. Also if you notice (outside this debate) that Jesus is more attacked and persecuted more than any other prophets, deities, worships Gods or other religious beliefs. For example, when a person mentions they believe in buddha, Allah, Hindu, or that they believe in Zeus, there’s no issue whatsoever, the mood in the room doesn’t change and there’s no issue. However, once Jesus is mentioned, you can feel a distaste no matter where you mention his name, almost as if people don’t want to hear his name just like they use his name in vein. I believe that shows proof Jesus is the true Lord for the devil does not attack false gods.

    • @abdullahwasiq1542
      @abdullahwasiq1542 7 місяців тому +1

      Bro we Muslims are not even allowed to compare our prophets to us they all were sinless and that also includes Jesus Christ PBUH 😊

    • @bakhtiyarguseinov9402
      @bakhtiyarguseinov9402 6 місяців тому +2

      What the hell did I just read

    • @bakhtiyarguseinov9402
      @bakhtiyarguseinov9402 6 місяців тому

      What the hell did I just read

    • @user-jj6dq1kx7j
      @user-jj6dq1kx7j 3 місяці тому +1

      Peace be upon Jesus 😊as Muslim

    • @Brabossa_
      @Brabossa_ 2 місяці тому

      @@abdullahwasiq1542no because your greatest prophet was not sinless bro. Please inform yourself. Sahih Bukhari 6307. if he was sinless why would he ask God for forgiveness. More the seventy times a day? Doesn’t sound sinless for me

  • @user-oo3ie7bw7z
    @user-oo3ie7bw7z 9 місяців тому +2

    There isnothing to debate about. JESUS died for all of us.

  • @peterpan-pr7ok
    @peterpan-pr7ok 5 років тому +363

    damn shabir got me thinking ..........

    • @eternity6124
      @eternity6124 5 років тому +29

      peter pan hey Peter Pan, if you read the Old Testament you can see that the Israelites would sacrifice animals (lambs, doves) etc. They did this as a command from God the father, pretty much killing an innocent animal ( which represented Jesus Christ who died in the future) the Old Testament all points to a man who would come to sacrifice his life for the sins of the world. If you look at the sanctuary in the Old Testament, you will see it was all symbolizing the real sacrifice that Jesus suffered.
      Islam was prophecied in the bible in the book of revelation as well, if you read the bible to find error and to purposely look for contradictions, it will be difficult to see truth because you are coming with a proud heart.
      If you take Jesus and his sacrifice for the sins of the world, if you remove him from the equation, as shabir said that we do not need an innocent man to die or we don’t need anyone, then what was the point of the sanctuary in the Old Testament? Which points to a coming messiah.
      The enemy, SATAN, does not want to acknowledge Christ’s sacrifice, if the enemy can make you believe that Jesus did not die, even though Jesus himself said that no one can go to the father but by him, then you reject Jesus, that’s exactly what Satan wants. Read read read. God bless you peter.

    • @KingKongHitDaBong
      @KingKongHitDaBong 5 років тому +47

      There's nothing wrong with having doubt. I would recommend watching Dr Ally's other lectures

    • @Drizzymumin23
      @Drizzymumin23 5 років тому +25

      Go watch Shabir ally vs Jay Smith and you really start to reason and think.

    • @eternity6124
      @eternity6124 5 років тому +8

      HUH Clipz as human beings, yes, you will have doubts, because we cannot see things physically there or because we don’t know everything.
      But when it comes to this topic, I don’t know, it feels like shabir no doubt a skilled and disciplined debater. BUT,
      If you base your truth and your foundation on what men say, you are not building a sure foundation. Jesus said the wise man builds his house upon the rock. The foolish man builds his house upon the sand. When the rain comes tumbling down, which could be trials, doubts tribulations etc, the man who built it on sand will tumble and fall.
      Islam says that they believe in the Old Testament, but it doesn’t even seem all that true... poking holes here and there with no valid evidence except PURE speculation, speculation which has been mastered over the years ... idk it just seems like if I would doubt anything it would be that.
      Read the bible, most of it is simple, Gods will is that all man be saved and that none should perish... people over complicate things.

    • @KingKongHitDaBong
      @KingKongHitDaBong 5 років тому +43

      @@eternity6124 I am a Muslim. I am not here to debate but I do commend you for trying to spread your religion. Their are many misconceptions about Islam, which is why people often have second doubts once they hear it's truths. It's not the fastest growing religion in the world for nothing. Islam is a way of life for me and billions around the world. You seem like a reasonable man, may Allah (God) grant you an open mind and open heart and have a blessed day.

  • @soodmm13
    @soodmm13 4 роки тому +87

    Both these guys are very awesome, and so kind. Mike is the kind of guy I would enjoy watching a basketball game with, and Shabbir is the kind of guy you could sit and talk to for hours over a few cups of tea. Y'all are awesome!

    • @jamescarlin569
      @jamescarlin569 2 роки тому

      yo exactly

    • @islam_is_false_
      @islam_is_false_ Рік тому +3

      And Mike won the debate

    • @Hannestv4607
      @Hannestv4607 Рік тому

      All religions presented themselves as Llies when they denied Jesus his sacrifice!
      God is holy and therefore inevitably always righteous. So God can never be merciful, gracious, because grace is not justice and therefore is wrong! A holy God can only be holy if he Never does wrong !! So Fact is without Jesus his SACRIFICE out of love for us we would all be lost! Only YHWH is not lying when he says he is HOLY and merciful! Who is YHWH equal? Exactly no one!!
      JESUS gave himself as a sin offering !! A pure life for a life !! Because we have to be holy = without guilt otherwise God will judge us fair and just !! Jesus is YHWH and thus the Creator of everything and thus has the weight to wash the whole creation clean with these pure lives (Blood) !! God bless you

    • @BesserGlauben
      @BesserGlauben Рік тому

      @@Hannestv4607 Amen!

    • @BesserGlauben
      @BesserGlauben Рік тому

      @@islam_is_false_ Did Mike really win if he didn't even have an opponent with arguments?

  • @aromafromheaven
    @aromafromheaven 8 місяців тому +4

    The man in the suit nailed the intro.

  • @mdmubaraq
    @mdmubaraq 4 дні тому

    .
    Who won?
    Honesty and dignity won.
    Thank you Mike and Shabir, for presenting a lot of insights in a respectful way.
    May the truth prevail.

  • @fatimasc100
    @fatimasc100 4 роки тому +63

    Shabir is very smart, he knows his religion and Christianity.

    • @LlyneM-rf3gd
      @LlyneM-rf3gd 4 роки тому +7

      No Shabir doesn't know Christianity as much as he appears so to those who know it even less. The writers of the quran didn't even know Christianity. They said that Christians consider the triune God as The Creator, Mary and Jesus and that was never the case. The Bible never taught that.
      And Shabir doesn't know why Jesus came. Jesus came to offer the New Covenant, be crucified, judge the dead and on the 3rd day- RISE to prove he had power over life and death. He raised others from death. His own crucifixion was no surprise to him. It is WHY he came. Shabir doesn't know that the crucifixion of the three was hastened because of the Sabbath being the next day and no executions could be done on the Sabbath. But Shabir doesn't know that. The crucifixion was just a blip im time for Jesus who was with The Father when the earth was formed and is still alive today. I would walk through fire to save my children or give mysekf to die in exchange for my children. But Shabir cannot understand why Jesus would do this to save the souls of all of mankind. Shabir also skips over the Holy Spirit coming on the disciples at Pentecost and they were able to speak in new languages, heal the infirmed and exorcise demons in the name of Jesus the Christ. Shabir blew it when he said Jesus never appeared to Mary his Mother.

    • @Musta8787
      @Musta8787 4 роки тому +4

      I am still to this very time still in shock that Christians believe their enemy is Islam but in fact the ones that were torturing and murdering Jesus wasn't Muslim or from the Islamic faith background. Their enemy should be the one's that are trying to reject Jesus and his teachings.

    • @SK-xz3qy
      @SK-xz3qy 4 роки тому

      @aprince ofpeace your comment and your name clash I think you should change your name aprince of hate...

    • @sammohdi4655
      @sammohdi4655 4 роки тому +3

      @@Musta8787 Ya habibi muslims are going against Jesus and his teachings which are the Torah and new testament which is what the bible consists of. Nothing was changed and whatever was left out we still have preserved in facilities and they all further validate yeshua's death and Resurrection and authority OVER ALL MAN. Islam is Anti-christ and seems to mainly focus on the trinity of God as polytheism because they wont believe and understand it and some cannot learn it for it is forbidden. Many of these Fabrications of muslim scholars embedded into muslims heads so that they can stay away from the word, away from the family and kingdom of God.

    • @sammohdi4655
      @sammohdi4655 4 роки тому

      @Edge Abdullah the only christians that believe that Mary is god is the Jehovah witnesses and thats not even 1% of the Christian population... The Quran let me down and has let a lot down because its hard to stay away from the truth. I would choose God over my family because he is the almighty. Not your father not your mother or uncles... its God. So when you finally understand the word of Yahweh your lord and what he consists of and why he wanted to come down to save you from damnation, it will be crystal clear. So yes indeed the Quran brought up the trinity i had a discussion in Palestine with an open Quran and it didn't mention the holy spirit in the trinity it talked about Mary which true christians disbelief is the deity of God. Its proven and you cant keep deceiving your way out of this as your Quran taught you to do. It says if you say three is God then you are caffer. Muslims believe Gabriel the angel blew Gods spirit/soul into Mariam which is blasphemy to the extreme. Only God can do such a thing why would he need an angel to do such a task? And they say he blew it through her vagina.. which is not how it happened it when through her body simple as that God can do things without question. Plus there was no scripts telling us where it went through Mary because it happened and thats all that matters and Jesus came out from beneath her rib not a natural birth like you and i. So basically Gabriel has equal or higher power than Allah which is shrikk in islam.

  • @FranciscoMarcialA
    @FranciscoMarcialA Рік тому +183

    debate was amazing, and left it open to self analysis. as a former catholic, then atheist and recently converted to Jesus, i love facts and this was beautifully executed.
    i am reading my Bible and love how much truth is in it. John 14:6

    • @undeadboris
      @undeadboris Рік тому +2

      🙌🕊

    • @verygoodyantv
      @verygoodyantv Рік тому +4

      Amen! God bless you more brother.

    • @aliyahussain4585
      @aliyahussain4585 Рік тому +7

      Francisco God jesus bless you that you are back be strong in Christianity you will be in heven

    • @bstlybengali
      @bstlybengali Рік тому +7

      do you love how the bible explains that a contradiction (100% man 100% god) created the universe?

    • @jenewooyang9144
      @jenewooyang9144 Рік тому +8

      @@bstlybengali I love how you have absolutely no understanding of the hypostatic union. Jesus is fully human in the sense that he has all attributes of a human, like hunger. He is fully divine in the sense that he also has all divine characteristics which he voluntarily FORFEITED in His selflessness. Furthermore, why are we using logic to describe a Being that is beyond time, space and matter, and even logic itself?

  • @samuelejedegba1126
    @samuelejedegba1126 5 місяців тому +1

    Thanks

  • @ELDiosThePrescription
    @ELDiosThePrescription 5 місяців тому +1

    I applaud the willingness to debate this issue

  • @TheHawk1811
    @TheHawk1811 4 роки тому +23

    I do believe that Ally dominated the conversation but I don’t think he necessarily “won” the debate. They both have information to chew on. I hope they meet again soon.

    • @Clipahoy
      @Clipahoy 3 місяці тому +2

      I hardly think Ally dominated the conversation. Nabeel Qureshi May his soul rest in peace watched the debate and he said Mike made a great case of resurrection

  • @muamerblazevic1837
    @muamerblazevic1837 5 років тому +23

    God bless the moderator for saying "move past your prejudices". And props to Mike for uploading this.

  • @wurldfree9520
    @wurldfree9520 10 місяців тому

    Great job Sam. Finding an impactful point of dispute about Islam and becoming well-informed and polemicizing that point continuously and relentlessly, so that the light of truth can shine bright in the darkness of Islam.
    As for the Khan guy, I've spoken about him before, Islamic Bully on a serious Dhimmi trip.

  • @clydehoppers6375
    @clydehoppers6375 4 місяці тому +1

    There is a difference between having the facts of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. And having every conceivable argument against it. If Jesus rose from the dead, that means Christanity is the only way to eternal life in heaven and EVERY other religion is false. God made the rules, I didn't. Mike you did great. Keep it up and God will bless you. I'm proud of you.

  • @rumahtherapyechathalisa5748
    @rumahtherapyechathalisa5748 5 років тому +39

    Great debate... inspiring and widening horizon. Thank you mr Licona, mr Ally.

  • @Sumotori.
    @Sumotori. 5 років тому +37

    Magnificent discussion between two great and respectful gentlemen! Peace.

  • @user-py6oe6pl3n
    @user-py6oe6pl3n 7 місяців тому +2

    praise be His name Sir & His wisdom He put into you 💪🙏☝️☝️

  • @toreal4u
    @toreal4u 7 місяців тому +2

    I can tell you it says that he couldn't be recognized, they beat him to where he couldn't be recognized. Imagine being beaten so bad that his own wife couldn't recognize him.

  • @sudutbicaraku7947
    @sudutbicaraku7947 2 роки тому +39

    As a moslem, i salute you sir, mr licona for uploading this video unedited, love this kind of debate

  • @Hassan_Omer
    @Hassan_Omer 4 роки тому +86

    This is a fantastic example of a great respectful debate. Hats off to both gentlemen. Thanks for sharing this.

    • @ronwaldoreyes2162
      @ronwaldoreyes2162 11 місяців тому +4

      God manifested into flesh and He was in the world but even His own did not knew Him...Isaiah 43;10-11 there is only one God and one saviour who is He?thats what we are going to look for in our lives if we are not scared of hell..God is very precise What He said will be done brothers and sisters...ISLAM is very far from the truth and there is no thruth in islam at all..

    • @redsun5681
      @redsun5681 10 місяців тому

      ​@@ronwaldoreyes2162 Quran words of Allah say be truthful don't cheat and honor your family and other people don't insult other religions do not use drugs or alcohol don't follow the footsteps of satan. If you are saying Islam is not saying anything the truth is just showing your hatred against Muslims, clearly you don't even believe Jesus also because Jesus said love your enemies and you hate allies because Muslims are only fate who believe Jesus messias only different is Muslims believe Jesus messias as prophet of Allah "God" also Jesus said only true God is he's father, I invite you to Islam and TRUE religion what Jesus believe.

    • @abutorab1004
      @abutorab1004 10 місяців тому

      ​@@ronwaldoreyes2162😂

    • @bakhtiyarguseinov9402
      @bakhtiyarguseinov9402 6 місяців тому

      @@ronwaldoreyes2162cope buddy. Try harder next time

    • @ronwaldoreyes2162
      @ronwaldoreyes2162 6 місяців тому

      @@bakhtiyarguseinov9402 wjhy not u try me not ur buddy...

  • @PowerGurhl
    @PowerGurhl 10 місяців тому +1

    Wow it’s amazing this was 10 years ago 😅 he has so much knowledge Shamir Ali!

  • @nazirimam997
    @nazirimam997 10 місяців тому +2

    Really great debate and very respectful. I then started watching bart ehrmans series and it's amazing how Many scholars agree the Bible is not the word of God and it is a book filled with many issues

    • @dcallahan119
      @dcallahan119 Місяць тому

      Imagine writing that out and not realizing Bart Herman and ALL secular scholars think the Koran is a joke of a book.

  • @judithwason
    @judithwason 3 роки тому +110

    Thank you for posting this debate Mike. I’m here after reading Nabeel’s biography and commend you for honourably defending our faith in Jesus♥️

    • @mobl7911
      @mobl7911 2 роки тому +4

      What defending buddy lmao

    • @geoffreyk6229
      @geoffreyk6229 2 роки тому

      @@mobl7911 If you want to I can debate you. I am christian.

    • @BesserGlauben
      @BesserGlauben Рік тому +21

      @Numair Khan If you truly think that's the case, then you don't understand anything of this topic, the existing evidence, or how arguments are considered as good.
      Mike didn't even have an opponent in this debate.
      Mike didn't even use the Gospels as evidence, while Shabir never answered properly to the statements and evidence provided by Mike and only tried to attack the Gospels, when they weren't even being referenced.

    • @mo7mova752
      @mo7mova752 Рік тому +14

      @@BesserGlauben revisionist history there. Dr. Ally made numerous references to the gospels to show contradictions and in some instances to disprove the notions put forth by Christian’s, such as the crucifixion, original sin theory.
      As for Mike, the truth isn’t on his side. He showed up and tried and made a lot of assumptions, which require a leap of faith to believe. Simply too many contradictions and forgeries in Bible to overcome.

    • @1724nine
      @1724nine 10 місяців тому

      Just compare the behaviors of Christ to the behaviors of Mohammad and I think you will see who is holy , true, and believable. I can give details of your prophet( who is dead) and we can know who is evil and corrupt. This man is like Satan who tells Eve …. ‘Did God actually say, you shall not eat of the trees in the Garden? This man is trying to plant seeds of doubt and he seems to be quoting miscellaneous books written not by the inspired words of God. The only thing this guy smoked was some majic mushrooms before he come out on stage .

  • @kenza2534
    @kenza2534 5 років тому +56

    Whatever what you do, the person that wanna stay blind will stay blind unless if she decides to see. Th e truth is cristal clear.

    • @taslemk8435
      @taslemk8435 5 років тому +6

      Allah says ....(i paraphrase) seeing they will not see, hearing they will not hear...

    • @mosasa1307
      @mosasa1307 5 років тому +2

      @@taslemk8435 That's if they choose to ignore. Please state the full ayat(verse) not a snippet, don't take it out of context.

    • @mcw0261
      @mcw0261 4 роки тому

      @@mosasa1307 you must harmonize the Bible and Qur'an by yourself. The Qur'an tells you that you must believe in the Bible: Injeel, Zabor, Books of the Prophets, and the Torah. If you do not have Iman, your righteous works will be meaningless

    • @resomex
      @resomex 4 роки тому +2

      @@mcw0261 No sweetheart the Quran said we should respect it not "Believe in it" only if it matches the Quran then we believe it if it goes Against it then we strictly reject it

    • @mcw0261
      @mcw0261 4 роки тому

      @@resomex prove it? I says that if you do not believe in it then a humiliating punishment is there. But all you have to do is accept Jesus as the Messiah the Word of God. And the Qur'an says that. Just have to accept it.

  • @user-py6oe6pl3n
    @user-py6oe6pl3n 5 місяців тому +1

    the best debate I've seen. one sided. Thank you so much sir Mike.. this is very inspiring
    what I like the most is your closing statement "...Praise be His name"

  • @ianbrodie8658
    @ianbrodie8658 10 місяців тому

    Like a discussion between those who believe in unicorns snd those who believe in pixies.

  • @Dawahdude0
    @Dawahdude0 2 роки тому +30

    This is one of the best debates I have ever watched. Thank you, Mike, for very comprehensive presentation and very hard work on this topic. I do admire Shabir making it very relevant in modern day using Mel Gipson movie showing the development. and asking very difficult questions to clear all sort of doubts on this topic. Mike, can you do 7 hours debate with Shabir Ali as you recently did with Bart Erman.

  • @k-drissidrissa8463
    @k-drissidrissa8463 5 років тому +153

    Shabir: So Mike what do you think about Jesus rising from the dead?
    Mike: Im on the other hill
    Shabir: So Mike what do you think about Jesus crucifixion?
    Mike: Im still on the other hill
    Shabir: Ok Mike fine, then how was your day?
    Mike: Pretty exhausted from climbing the hill but hey, im still on the hill

    • @FayazKadir
      @FayazKadir 5 років тому +16

      This got me laughing. Good one Isrissa!! I loved your comment.

    • @gazeeowais438
      @gazeeowais438 5 років тому +9

      Hahahahahahha

    • @shayneby
      @shayneby 5 років тому +1

      K-Driss Idrissa
      Another Abdul. Go to Christian Prince and get busted

    • @user-kr1yw9up7r
      @user-kr1yw9up7r 5 років тому +16

      shayneby what is abdul??
      By the way, christian prince is coward prince... he never debates outside skype...

    • @shayneby
      @shayneby 5 років тому +2

      Damon Moreau
      Why should he debate outside Skype? Were you present during this debate or did you watch it from UA-cam ?
      Do you want to attack him for his work in exposing Islam? Isn't that what Muslims do out of ignorance to people who expose their deceptive religion?
      Can he enter his Islamic country without being killed if you Muslims knew how he looked like?
      Try and use your brain. Take your knowledge of Islam and try to decent your religion if you can. Get your best scholars to call him. More viewers will be watching live on Skype than these face to face debates.
      Look for a better excuse.

  • @eternityisreal1978
    @eternityisreal1978 10 місяців тому +1

    I personally do not get the obsession with the resurrection. Without it Jesus Christ is still awesome, of God. It is not indispensable to having a faith.

    • @SairaSabir1443AH
      @SairaSabir1443AH 9 місяців тому

      ua-cam.com/video/U_7_Z_HTyQM/v-deo.htmlsi=Z7UHcRnMxHNqZLQB

  • @PatriciaJones-bp5hw
    @PatriciaJones-bp5hw 6 місяців тому +1

    I died i seen Jesus Christ he is alive and with us. The truth shall set you free god bless you all. 😇♥️

  • @Alimaxim1
    @Alimaxim1 5 років тому +191

    Miss Ahmed Deedat may allah bless him heaven

    • @matthewveerasammy5616
      @matthewveerasammy5616 5 років тому

      Ali makarove wym miss Ahmed deedat? Who’s that now ? Mashallah

    • @Alimaxim1
      @Alimaxim1 5 років тому +8

      @@matthewveerasammy5616 who is that now. well he is a legend who once live and break all the question to answers which christians could not figure out . Alot can be learn till today from his videos.

    • @jeninvp
      @jeninvp 5 років тому +2

      Ali makarove Tell ur shabir call Christian price channel 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Alimaxim1
      @Alimaxim1 5 років тому +1

      @@jeninvp Mr shabir said your channel hang up on him

    • @jeninvp
      @jeninvp 5 років тому

      nooooo he lain Ali 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @adamsmith586
    @adamsmith586 5 років тому +68

    Shabir ally gives logical evidences and he is very humble person. I have huge respect on him 😇

    • @mcw0261
      @mcw0261 4 роки тому

      My heart breaks for those that genuinely desire a relationship with God, and are struggling. But If you don't believe in Qur'an and your don't believe in the Injeel, then you have made your choice. The Qur'an tells you that the Injeel is the word of God. The Qur'an tells you that the Bible is the word of God. Only Muslims have to figure out how to harmonize there beliefs and it's not that difficult. It's only difficult for those Muslims that put fear of man and pride of Religion above relationship with God. Muslims should not be making distinctions between messages, they must take them all and accepting them ALL in faith.

    • @mcw0261
      @mcw0261 4 роки тому

      @solomon duncan blessed are those poor in spirit brother. Not all Muslims have made an Idol of men and their Religion. Some genuinely desire God, but have been lied to all their life. Literally since birth and threatened with death if they fail to believe. But we can't give up on preaching the Gospel.

    • @mcw0261
      @mcw0261 4 роки тому

      @solomon duncan I don't disagree with the mixing of light and dark. And I do expect to be heart broken often with this community. But Saul spent an important part of his career attacking the church, but his zeal for God allowed him to be used as a tool. Some Muslims really desire a relationship with God. Many of them unfortunately have greater pride and idolize Religion and community over God. But I do desire for Muslim to actually follow the part of the Qur'an that says to believe in the Bible, or the part of the Qur'an that's says do not believe in some prophets and reject the others. I believe God created an escape hatch even in the plans of the deceiver. And the enemy has spent it's energy attacking the escape door and Muslims are either afraid and confused (in expectation of judgement) or complacent and prideful (following the anti-Christ). The Bible told us this would happen. But we must attack the Spiritual ramparts of the enemy and create escape routes into the truth in all Religions to Christ so that at least some may be saved from certain damnation.

    • @mcw0261
      @mcw0261 4 роки тому

      @solomon duncan I am after men and women, not Religion. I could compare my desire to Abrahams wishes to save the city of Lot's family. I only wish to be a tool for giving the word of God to Muslims that God has elected. I could compare my desires to that of Paul, he became like a Jew to win Jews even though Jewish meant nothing, he became like the poor in spirit to win the poor in spirit even though he be rich in faith. Please do not hear my words as a stumbling block. Stand firm in your faith. Christ is Lord God in the flesh. Even the Qur'an tells Christians to stand on their Bible. But only justice exists in the Qur'an alone, I cannot find salvation in it. So I hope there are more lost sheep destined for salvation in different pens (gates) like Islam that need to hear the word of God, that need to receive the Gospel. I have listened to the testimonies of some Muslims who were saved. The harvest is still ripe until our Lord God returns. We must fight.

    • @mcw0261
      @mcw0261 4 роки тому

      @solomon duncan I agree with you that we cannot look back, thought I am not looking back for my own help, but for their help. Also in the book of Acts Paul entered the Athenian Council and quoted from their stoic Philosophers in hope to shine a light towards the truth. There are verses in the Quran that can be used for the same purpose. And all must hear the Gospel, including Muslims.
      Verses such as these;
      يٰٓأَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓا ءَامِنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِۦ وَالْكِتٰبِ الَّذِى نَزَّلَ عَلٰى رَسُولِهِۦ وَالْكِتٰبِ الَّذِىٓ أَنْزَلَ مِنْ قَبْلُ  ۚ وَمَنْ يَكْفُرْ بِاللَّهِ وَمَلٰٓئِكَتِهِۦ وَكُتُبِهِۦ وَرُسُلِهِۦ وَالْيَوْمِ الْأَاخِرِ فَقَدْ ضَلَّ ضَلٰلًۢا بَعِيدًا
      "O you who believe, believe in Allah and His Messenger and the Book that He sent down upon His Messenger *and the Scripture which He sent down before* . And whoever disbelieves in Allah, His angels, *His books, His messengers* , and the Last Day has certainly gone far astray."
      (QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 136)
      إِنَّ الَّذِينَ يَكْفُرُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦ وَيُرِيدُونَ أَنْ يُفَرِّقُوا بَيْنَ اللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦ وَيَقُولُونَ نُؤْمِنُ بِبَعْضٍ وَنَكْفُرُ بِبَعْضٍ وَيُرِيدُونَ أَنْ يَتَّخِذُوا بَيْنَ ذٰلِكَ سَبِيلًا
      "Indeed, those who disbelieve in Allah and His messengers and wish to discriminate between Allah and His messengers and say, We believe in some and disbelieve in others, and wish to adopt a way in between -"
      Allah SWT said:
      أُولٰٓئِكَ هُمُ الْكٰفِرُونَ حَقًّا  ۚ وَأَعْتَدْنَا لِلْكٰفِرِينَ عَذَابًا مُّهِينًا
      "Those are the disbelievers, truly. And We have prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating punishment."
      Muslims need to believe in all the scripture that came before it. But by their own words they will testify against themselves on the day of judgement if they do not believe in the Bible. The Bible is the scripture that came before then (according to the Quran). But again I agree with you, but you have to differentiate between my beliefs and my evangelism.

  • @hsgmh
    @hsgmh 7 місяців тому +1

    Good debate. I'm pleased to see Indiana Jones branching out to meditating debates.

  • @albertgallegos9938
    @albertgallegos9938 9 місяців тому +2

    JOHN 3:16
    "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
    King James Version (KJV)

  • @harunskywalker4942
    @harunskywalker4942 4 роки тому +98

    Shabir Ally is impressive in character and knowledge.

  • @AncientPharaoh
    @AncientPharaoh 5 років тому +64

    I've served 12 years in the US military and my country proudly. I've guarded Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. I'm now 100% Muslim. I've no doubt about the existence of God, Allah. Please open your hearts go read Quran.com it's in layman terms and you'll need not interpretations. It's in black and white unlike anything you've ever seen I promise.

    • @nothinggonnacghange
      @nothinggonnacghange 5 років тому +8

      Tummun
      Really mate?, I too have read Quran not once or twice I have read more then 20 times, I couldn’t find anything logic I am sorry, but I would rather read Geeta , bible, torat, or Granth then reading a book which teaches hatred..
      Sorry mate if I hurt you but that’s the truth..

    • @myfirstnamemylastname3343
      @myfirstnamemylastname3343 5 років тому +3

      @@nothinggonnacghange you never read even a single chapter. Stop lying

    • @nothinggonnacghange
      @nothinggonnacghange 5 років тому

      MyFirstName MyLastName
      What do you want to know!!!!?

    • @myfirstnamemylastname3343
      @myfirstnamemylastname3343 5 років тому

      @@nothinggonnacghange about what?

    • @nothinggonnacghange
      @nothinggonnacghange 5 років тому

      MyFirstName MyLastName
      As you mentioned that I am lying about reading Quran , I want you to ask me anything related to Quran& I will be happy to answer, I don’t want this to be a war of text , nor do I have to hurt anyone’s religious sentiments, I just said I cannot digest what’s written in Quran and hadith

  • @VainFriggus
    @VainFriggus Місяць тому +1

    “The evidence is in this book”
    “Where in the book?”
    “I don’t know you’d have to read the book”
    Guy is doing everything to not answer the question 🤡

  • @jesusfreak7777
    @jesusfreak7777 9 місяців тому +2

    Good debate good different thinking. May God bless Muslim and Christian peace and love in unity.

  • @valeriarushiti8478
    @valeriarushiti8478 4 роки тому +178

    Shabir Ally . Man ! So knowledgeable. Very wise man . He changed my mind. 😊 Shabir Ally 👏🏻

    • @imty8774
      @imty8774 4 роки тому

      As in you converted/reverted?

    • @salafismyway2012
      @salafismyway2012 4 роки тому +2

      i love you valeria

    • @valeriarushiti8478
      @valeriarushiti8478 4 роки тому

      vorbies gaming thank you ☺️ Love you too !

    • @salafismyway2012
      @salafismyway2012 4 роки тому

      @@valeriarushiti8478 im so sad all moeslim crying now its coz gabriel angle tonight is died :'(

    • @mohdfitriibrahim9813
      @mohdfitriibrahim9813 4 роки тому +3

      Dont wait any longer, we dont know when we die... Make syahadah...

  • @Hassan-fc2ts
    @Hassan-fc2ts 5 років тому +17

    Summary starts at 2:21:00 Incase you dont have 2 hours.

  • @tigresalas3574
    @tigresalas3574 7 місяців тому

    We need more debates like this. Now we don't have any that much. We have argurments and insulting each other

  • @rumpelstilskin_812
    @rumpelstilskin_812 5 місяців тому

    I’ve seen “Our” rainbow “high jacked”
    Our Peaceful and Patriotic protest was “high jacked” and now I hear this guy?
    We pray for him
    Luke 23:34
    🙏🏼🇺🇸🙏🏼

  • @Musta8787
    @Musta8787 4 роки тому +33

    Very nice debate but I am still to this very time still in shock that Christians believe their enemy is Islam but in fact the ones that were torturing and murdering Jesus wasn't Muslim or from the Islamic faith background. Their enemy should be the one's that are trying to reject Jesus and his teachings.

    • @andrew_koala2974
      @andrew_koala2974 4 роки тому +6

      Paul, the author of most of what is referred to as the New Testament, swept everything that Jesus (pbuh) taught under the carpet.
      Jesus himself denies what Paul taught.
      Paul who NEVE met Jesus in his entire life also stated in a sworn affidavit that he is a liar..
      So who do you believe? Paul or Jesus?
      One of the two is a liar .
      It is my view that Jesus (pbuh) would not lie to save his own skin.
      Jesus was one of many prophets sent to Mankind to put him back on track, as people kept going back to their old established ways after each prophet died.
      The SUN of God is the savior... If the SUN of God does not rise and bring light to the world, the world would be a frozen desolate place without life without polysynthesis, and life would not exist.
      It was the Church inder control of ROME that made the SUN of God into the SON of God. It was a grand deception by the Elite to control the population.
      The real Gnostic Unitarian Christians were slaughtered by the thousand by the Church even as late as the 15th century.
      The Church murdered philosophers and men of science to silence them.
      Jesus never heard of nor mentioned any trinity,
      Though trinities existed in some 16 earlier religions that Vhristianity borrowed from as it was useful to unite people by incorporating earlier pagan beliefs that people were happy with.
      The unification required such a compromise. But it was a deception that continues to this day.
      How could Jesus have sacrificed himself for man as he himself denies this.
      Even Jesus himself says:
      “I will have mercy, and not sacrifice”
      Matthew 9:13
      ... So is Jesus lying?

    • @ok-sw3st
      @ok-sw3st 4 роки тому

      Andrew_koala well said

    • @sivad1025
      @sivad1025 4 роки тому +12

      @@andrew_koala2974 So much of what you said is untrue. First off, Paul _did_ meet Jesus on the Road to Damascus (read Acts 9). Second, Paul said the exact same thing Jesus said: Jesus is God. If you don't believe me, read Mark 14. The pharisees ask Jesus if he is the Son of God to which Jesus says "I am," then says that he is, "The son of man coming with the clouds of heaven" (a reference to Daniel 7, a prophesy of God coming to Earth incarnate) and claims he will be "seated at the place of power at God's right hand" (a reference to Psalms 110 where it's revealed that only God is worthy of sitting st God's right hand). Jesus then went on to be accused for blasphemy (again, something he didn't deny) and was sentenced to death since Jews at the time thought blasphemy was unforgivable.
      Jesus absolutely claimed to be God just as Paul preached. If you don't think Jesus was a liar, you have to proclaim that Jesus is indeed the Son of God and the Son of Man (God incarnate)

    • @gardenerr.o.m7828
      @gardenerr.o.m7828 2 роки тому

      Roman empire?

    • @adventistmessage4023
      @adventistmessage4023 2 роки тому +4

      A true christian has no enemy except Satan.

  • @gassamabakary2297
    @gassamabakary2297 5 років тому +25

    True shall be reveal ☝️

    • @newsamplifier
      @newsamplifier 3 роки тому +1

      @darkblue It's ok, kid. 😅 don't feel destroyed. Btw, shabir is fast cause he have so many proof that he just can't handle it. He knows more than Mike. It's okay, if you don’t wanna admit it.

  • @user-hb6zd5cr9u
    @user-hb6zd5cr9u 2 місяці тому

    One is the best debates .. both men are an example how we should conduct ourselves

  • @CalvinMayes-zv5di
    @CalvinMayes-zv5di 4 місяці тому +1

    I lay my body down because I have power to raise it up again.

  • @BF109G4
    @BF109G4 4 роки тому +77

    I’m a Muslim and I really like you brother Mike. You’re tolerant, respectful and a real true seeker unlike David woods who always cut speeches, words, and context just to serve his inner purpose. God bless you mr Mike.

    • @t4r478
      @t4r478 4 роки тому +1

      Edge Abdullah question. Do you think Muhammed marrying a little girl immoral?

    • @BF109G4
      @BF109G4 4 роки тому +6

      Jeremiah Reed
      At that time even your people married (little girls). In fact, Abraham Lincoln married his wife when she was 13. The marriage of early teenagers become forbidden by law in the 21st century.
      BTW, according to the Bible (Numbers 31-18) the Lord ordered David to slay every woman and boy and keep the (young girls who haven’t known a man) for himself and the army. Not only he practiced pedophilia but also rape.

    • @BF109G4
      @BF109G4 4 роки тому +3

      Jeremiah Reed
      Wanna talk about the incest between Lot and his daughter ? Or wanna talk about God ordering his prophet to eat fresh sh*t ? Ezekiel 4-12

    • @t4r478
      @t4r478 4 роки тому

      BF109G I asked you a yes or no question and you responded with a paragraph. Yes or no. Was his actions immoral? And what is your take on Muhammed when he thought the devil deceived him?

    • @walidmakbouli259
      @walidmakbouli259 4 роки тому +1

      @KingOfKingz OK HE GOT DESTROYED BY MOHAMED HIJAB PEAAACE

  • @ismailmuhd2709
    @ismailmuhd2709 3 роки тому +9

    wonderful and respectful discussion, Kudos!

  • @CandiceLawless-li4fd
    @CandiceLawless-li4fd 8 місяців тому +3

    Mike doesn't seem to want to address the bible, but he's Christian. He keeps referring to going back to the other side of the hill, not the bible. Why is that? Because he knows the contradictions in the Bible.

    • @1Corinthians13.4_7
      @1Corinthians13.4_7 8 місяців тому

      Are you a Muslim and bias as well?
      The only reason you think there are contradictions in the bible is because you have been brainwashed to believe so
      Whether you are Muslims, atheist or whatever religion
      Your supposed "contradictions" in the bible is an ignorant statement
      Shabir poses only a hypothesis to disprove the biblical narrative
      He has no solid evidence
      The quran has no solid evidence
      The only reason you Muslims take the quran is because the quran says so
      Historical documents much older than the quran prove the statements in the quran to be false
      Islam is a false religion
      From a pedophile

    • @kurida7
      @kurida7 Місяць тому

      Lol what contradictions in the Bible? Talk is cheap, prove it.

  • @hussainzzzzzzz
    @hussainzzzzzzz 8 місяців тому +1

    Was great debate, we all need to be respectful towards each other as we both want best for each other deep inside by wanting to make you muslim or Christian. Peace

  • @natf6747
    @natf6747 Рік тому +12

    As a christian i really appreciate the discourse. And serious props to Shabir! I wish they could have gotten through the moscommunication on the pre gospel, gospel thing and just moved on. They weren't getting each other and spent a lot of time on that one thing.

  • @kangaroo0061
    @kangaroo0061 3 роки тому +5

    I LOVE THESE KIND OF DEBATES IT WAS HEALTHY CONVERSATIONS TO KNOWS ABOUT TRUTES .....

  • @PatriciaJones-bp5hw
    @PatriciaJones-bp5hw 6 місяців тому +1

    God will show you the way to truth. 😇♥️ God bless you all 😇

  • @rosalynpenar8590
    @rosalynpenar8590 3 роки тому +3

    Very respectful to discuss God blessed you both very nice heard

  • @Cesar1492Enjoyer
    @Cesar1492Enjoyer 2 роки тому +10

    I'm Catholic but I respect Muslims

    • @Hamza00011
      @Hamza00011 2 роки тому +1

      Im muslim and i respect christians

    • @ProfYaffle
      @ProfYaffle 2 роки тому

      Muslims are mostly wonderful. It's their religion and prophet that are not good

  • @phillipbenjamin6920
    @phillipbenjamin6920 3 місяці тому +1

    Blessed are those that believe and have not seen

  • @disgusted3191
    @disgusted3191 8 місяців тому

    It is conjecture to assert that the gospel accounts are distotions or rewordings. What is this earliest strata of evidence?

  • @jabogtewan3232
    @jabogtewan3232 5 років тому +61

    Shabir Ali was very direct and precise

    • @SUPERBAKI100
      @SUPERBAKI100 5 років тому

      Haha

    • @chriscarver528
      @chriscarver528 4 роки тому +2

      He was precise alright..he precisely avoided the argument.

    • @chriscarver528
      @chriscarver528 4 роки тому

      Yes, sir you assumed right.

    • @fakihashami790
      @fakihashami790 3 роки тому

      I agree 👍

    • @notgoodatall
      @notgoodatall Рік тому +3

      @@chriscarver528 why are these muslims not understanding that he totally avoided the argument.. are they having some kind of problem in understanding of english language.

  • @ahmadnurdin0202
    @ahmadnurdin0202 4 роки тому +32

    I tried my hard to understand about Jesus death & resurrection from Mike’s explanation however confusion is I got. In conclusion, I rather to believe Jesus is brought/rose up by God and will come down to explain about what happened to him. May God guide us. Aamiin

    • @descobra5462
      @descobra5462 3 роки тому +7

      That's cause the evil one is blocking you from believing it. Just continue to pray

    • @sandrinayousif842
      @sandrinayousif842 3 роки тому

      many could say the same about God’s existence, doesnt mean they are right. goodluck on your journey

    • @vimochanaraosamatha5141
      @vimochanaraosamatha5141 2 роки тому +4

      Impossible to understand with eyeglasses of Islam

    • @mobl7911
      @mobl7911 2 роки тому

      @@sandrinayousif842 no, god existence makes sense, but people killing god for them to be forgiven is nonsense and only dumb people believe in that

    • @CountCulture27
      @CountCulture27 2 роки тому +1

      Try this. From the beginning of the Old Testament, sacrifice has always been the payment for sin. The only perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world was God coming down and taking the sin on his shoulders and dying for all of our iniquity.

  • @notdisturbmusic5884
    @notdisturbmusic5884 10 місяців тому +2

    I'm a Christian,
    We believed that Jesus was God
    And God is immortal,
    And I wondering...
    Why Jesus was dead...😂

  • @joenbikey143
    @joenbikey143 4 місяці тому +1

    That's why Jesus when resurrected did not penetrate the cave even if he had the ability to do it like he penetrated the wall when he appeared to the disciples, but instead opened the door of the cave and came out so that someone could witness his resurrection and proof that he did live

  • @Mujahideen68
    @Mujahideen68 5 років тому +43

    Qur'an Chapter 19
    Maryam "Mary"
    19. (The angel) said: "I am only a Messenger from your Lord, (to announce) to you the gift of a righteous son."
    20. She said: "How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, nor am I unchaste?"
    21. He said: "So (it will be), your Lord said: 'That is easy for Me (Allah): And (We wish) to appoint him as a sign to mankind and a mercy from Us (Allah), and it is a matter (already) decreed, (by Allah).
    22. So she conceived him, and she withdrew with him to a far place (i.e. Bethlehem valley about 4-6 miles from Jerusalem).
    23. And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a date-palm. She said: "Would that I had died before this, and had been forgotten and out of sight!"
    24. Then [the babe 'Iesa (Jesus) or Jibrael (Gabriel)] cried unto her from below her, saying: "Grieve not! Your Lord has provided a water stream under you;
    25. "And shake the trunk of date-palm towards you, it will let fall fresh ripe-dates upon you."
    26. "So eat and drink and be glad, and if you see any human being, say: 'Verily! I have vowed a fast unto the Most Beneficent (Allah) so I shall not speak to any human being this day.
    27. Then she brought him (the baby) to her people, carrying him. They said: "O Mary! Indeed you have brought a thing Fariya (an unheard mighty thing).
    28. "O sister (i.e. the like) of Harun (Aaron) [not the brother of Musa (Moses), but he was another pious man at the time of Maryam (Mary)]! Your father was not a man who used to commit adultery, nor your mother was an unchaste woman."
    29. Then she pointed to him. They said: "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?"
    30. "He ['Iesa (Jesus)] said: Verily! I am a slave of Allah, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet;"

    • @hara3435
      @hara3435 5 років тому +1

      Only he didnt say alla lol that is the moon god silly billy.

    • @hameedpta9435
      @hameedpta9435 5 років тому +8

      @@hara3435 ,brother, this is the answer of your comment
      Read qran chapter 41 verses 37
      And of His (Allah) signs are the night and day and the sun and the moon, Do not prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostrate to Allah, who created them ,if it should be Him that you warship
      May Allah guide you all Ameen

    • @mu9090
      @mu9090 3 роки тому

      @Zechariah12.10 yup .. Islam has not made up anything original, all is borrowed, copied, plagiarised..
      ~~~~
      Narrated by Ibn Abbas. Mhd took the sentence what was uttered by his scribe Abdullah bin al-Sarh, thus caused him(Abdullah) to leave islam because he realised it that Mhd was false prophet.
      ~~~~
      The story of 7 sleepers of Ephesus was written by a Siriac Christian priest few decades before Islam.
      Mhd copy it into quran, but mhd FORGOT the details, whether it was 3 or 4, OR, 5 or 6, OR or 7 with their dog.
      Sura 18:22
      ~~~
      Prayer beads. Praying 3 cycles holding 33 beads was originally created by an Egypt Monastic monk born 298 AD.
      3 signify Trinity, 33 likely signify age of Jesus when he died. A complex knot making was introduced by St. Anthony the Great. A Prayer dedicated to Jesus, Son Of God, was borrowed by islam to became prayer to allah, not realising the significance of the knots, each being 7 interlocking crosses.
      ~~~
      Story of Miraj was copied from zoroastrian legends.
      ~~~
      Prayer (salat) five times daily and using Sun's movement to specify timings were copied from Zoroastrianism.
      ~~
      Solomon talking to ants: Jew's children bed time stories. Also pre-existed befote islam
      ~~
      Jesus says :
      I am the Truth
      I am the Resurection
      I am the Beginning & the End
      Mhd copied what Jesus said & claimed them to be the names of Allah, in order to prove Allah is God,.. Muslims ask "where Jesus said I am God worship Me"- yet here quran tells muslims, Jesus is allah
      ~~~
      the Infancy Gospel of Thomas is considered unauthentic and heretical.
      However, its story of Jesus giving life to clay birds made its way to quran.
      ~~~
      The verse abt Moon splitting, copied sentences from a poet, Imru’ al-Qays
      While in Persia, missionary William St. Clair Tisdall, came in possession of copy of poems created by Imrull Qays
      Q 54: 1,29,31,46
      ~~~
      Ramadhan Fasting came from the Sabians (Harranians- moon worshippers and Mandaeans- polytheists ) who practiced Ramadhan Fasting before Mohd was born and since 600 b.c.
      According to 10th-century historian Ibn al-Nadim, the Harranians called the feast ”al-Feter” الفطر, the same name by which the feast of Islamic Ramadan is called, عيد الفطر ”Feast of al-Feter”.
      The Harranians consider their mood god is greater than the counter-part polytheist gods. Greater = Akbar.
      Our god is greater vs allahuakbar co-incidence (?)
      ~~~~
      Surah 18:83-102 Journey of Dhu l'Qarnayin was copied from a Syriac Legend abt Alexander the Great.
      As usual, Copy without understanding the depeer meaning. If they need explanation, they need to read the original text written before the quran. Eg. Ppl with no covering of protection against the sun - who are they?
      Ppl who scarcely understood a word - who?
      What Iron structure ?

    • @mu9090
      @mu9090 3 роки тому

      @Zechariah12.10 the list is growing

    • @mu9090
      @mu9090 3 роки тому +1

      @Zechariah12.10. Yes I do. I was shocked with the layers of lie that islam was built on..
      First, quran was never perfectly preserved, as cfm by sheik Y.Q.
      Second myth that Mecca is in Saudi was busted when Mel proves it didn't exist in old maps & Dan's report that there is no archeology finding there & early mosque qiblat directed to Petra instead.
      Now the myth of Islam origin is under scrutiny. The thesis makes a lot of sense because the earlier Gnostic Christians sect call Jesus Muhammad, even before islam's muhammad was born.

  • @IbnMurrah
    @IbnMurrah 3 роки тому +17

    *Timestamps for those who need it:*
    00:00:00 : Introduction
    00:04:53 : Opening Statements - Mike Licona
    00:24:04 : Opening Statements - Shabir Ally
    00:44:41 : Mike & Shabir Discussion
    01:45:55 : Question & Answer Session

    • @halalpolice7544
      @halalpolice7544 3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for this It helped a lot

    • @niceguy9444
      @niceguy9444 3 роки тому

      Fancy seeing you here imam murrah

    • @robocop3100
      @robocop3100 7 місяців тому

      Mikes opening statement of 4 minutes is obvious. There is nothing to talk about.

  • @adamkaan8025
    @adamkaan8025 10 місяців тому

    The fastest growing way of life with the most solid and cohesive community soon to be 2 billion in number worldwide.

  • @nodice9227
    @nodice9227 7 місяців тому

    I'm a Christian, and I think Shabir Ally was "projecting" the same issues from Islam he had against the gospels. He basically accused our gospels of innovation, later improvement, and evolution. That's exactly what his entire religion of Islam is.

  • @xelakram
    @xelakram 4 роки тому +11

    This is an excellent and very interesting debate. Thank you!

  • @wesleycolemanmusic
    @wesleycolemanmusic 2 роки тому +25

    It behooves me to echo the sentiment of my Christian and Muslim brothers and sisters as I congratulate both interlocutors for such an informative and congenial debate.

    • @surreal2958
      @surreal2958 2 роки тому

      Amazing!🤩

    • @izzyaisa3179
      @izzyaisa3179 Рік тому

      All of the different books and bibles were gathered much after Jesus pbuh was gone and the first manuscript known to have been found in Christianity was centuries later and it was the size of a credit card, the bible is filled with contradictions and God is not the author of confusion. The Quran was revealed by God (Allah) through the Angel Gabriel (may also be known as the holy spirit) directly to the prophet Mohamed pbuh and established in his time and was memorized by heart before even being put into text. Please don't blind follow and do some research, read the blessed Qur'an with an open mind. Islam calls you to worship the one true Lord of the world's who has no equals and can not be imagined in this world. It even says in the Bible that God almighty can not be contained let alone in this world, also mentioned that no one can see God in this world and live. In Islam seeing God is considered the ultimate reward even higher than attaining paradise itself that's how holy the Almighty is considered and revearead in Islam. Christians are confused in understanding what God is and what God does. What God is is the owner of majesty and perfection and he is the Almighty Creator of the heavens and earth, he created death and life and his perfect attributes never change, GOD IS IMMORTAL HE DOES NOT DIE, what God does however, he does as he wills in his infinite wisdom, Almighty Allah is far above his creation and does as he pleases, Almighty Allah is able to forgive the sin of his servants through his infinite mercy without any pagan like sacrifices let alone attributing partners or a son to the Almighty who is unlike his creation or anything that the mind can imagine that is the ultimate injustice/blasphemy to God and is a very grave sin (if one does not repent from it before death). Christianity is a word that came well after Jesus pbuh left as he did not call himself that and it was then heavily influenced by the pagan traditions of that time much after Jesus pbuh was gone. Then the corruption and confusion in the bible began, that's why you find many different books and gospels by so called men such as Paul who claim to have had "visions" and or "inspiration" from God, altered the true message that Jesus pbuh originally preached to the lost tribe of Israel and not to humanity which was to worship one God as he said he did not come to abolish the law. Also the arrival of the prophet mohamed pbuh was mentioned in the bible as the paraclete which means the comforter the counselor. I also wanna add that as Muslims we believe in and respect Jesus pbuh as a mighty prophet of God and was saved from his to be murderers and will return one day to affirm Islam and deny the falsehood and lies that were unjustly attributed to him after his departure, we as Muslims worship Allah the way he wants us to worship him, Jesus pbuh use to fall on his face bowing down to worship God the way Muslims worship and (no offence) not sing or dance around etc.. Hope this helped. May Allah guide, forgive and keep us on his straight path. Ameen. I invite everyone to read the blessed Qur'an.