I just received my Pandamon and although the midbass is less than my prefered level I was pleasantly surprised with the subbass presence and extention and I have a difficult time faulting them otherwise. I complely agree with your assessment. These are outstanding for the price! 👍
Thanks for your review, Dave! I’ve been considering these, not just for the good price, sound signature but also for the hilarious graphics. I mean, who doesn’t love a RABID PANDA? 😉😂
07/23 - Everything Dave said about the Pandamon was spot on. And yes a big +1 about having a bit more body. Other than that, here is where my perception, naturally, changes a bit. Well, I am one of the lucky winners who IS sensitive to the 2k-4k environment, and levels above nominal level (preferring 75db and below) does not work for me. Once it goes above it, they turn resident evil on me (bite!). Now at nominal level and below....WOW! This was exactly what I was looking for, yet got a little more than what I assumed...Nice. Also did some tweaking using Poweramp EQ (Android), and found some interesting flavors, but kept on coming back to it's natural form. These are amazing!...First taste of planar and I was engaging with them about half way into the 2nd song. Was criticizing initially instead of listening (Awareness is the Key to engagement). Great for work, evening/easy comfortable listening and right into bed as well. 75db and below is where the magic is for me. My taste of genre is open minded, broad and I am very happy to say that these work well with many of them (not loud/just right). And of course...these are not for bass headz, but it does have a nice round tone with a nice oomph. For outdoor errands I prefer the TruthEar Crinacle Zero Reds because it's all I have (new to wired iem's)...Saving for the P1 MAX. Thank You deeply Dave! Jose - Lake Mary, FL motorola ace 5, FiiO BTR5, Lenovo Laptop, Topping DX-1,1Mii B03 Bluetooth 5 Transmitter(TV to BTR5/LDAC stream) and UA-cam/Music streamer - Saudiophile (Simple Audiophile) setup. Works well for me. Hope this helps, a bit more, for those seeking honest reviews.
As I mentioned in your review of the Ghost, I just received the Pandamon a few days ago and ran it through various recordings. First thing though, I had two ultimate criteria before ordering them: sound quality (like everyone) and open back where you can hear your surroundings (unlike everyone). This security element is very important as I need to hear the phone ring or someone knocking at my door. If I'm not mistaken, the Pandamon is the only real open back under $100. There are other ones with a vent, but most of them seem to be only for there for the look. I was very surprised at the quality of these little things. I would have preferred more warmth, but that would have coloured the lower midrange and drive me nuts. The fast upright bass playing in Gogo Penguin, which is often boomy, is presented with speed and clarity here - no boom, just punchy and quick. Listening to Barshai's Shostakovich symphonies was met with an open and clear soundstage, with no frequency trying to fight with another one. This gives it a deceptively 'relaxed' sound. But then I listened to Rammstein's first album and I found myself moving my head up and down - definitely not relaxed. Just clean music. I think the Pandamon is good with every and any type of music, unless you purposely want exaggerated extremities. A keeper for sure!
If I have two alternatives, pandamon for 45$ and P1 max for 110$, should I really pay 2.5 times more money for P1 max, does it worth this difference? Or it is very close to each other regardless the price difference?
Another fabulous review, but that is just what I expect every time that I click on one of your videos. By the way, did you get your new coffee maker? Aeropress?
@@TheHonestAudiophile I think you should do a special video after you get it and let people know how you like it once you are used to it. You can call it The Honest Coffiophile Review. :)
I guess the killer for me, is that the sound leaks in and out. For me, the main purpose of a IEM is to be able to go out into the public domain. There use is limited to the home and there are full size headphones for that purpose. Again, shouldn't an inner ear number one criteria be the ability to use them out in the public?
You can use these in public, they don't leak that much. Just have to be mindful of your music choices, how loud your playing them and how close you are to another person.
What do you think of these when compared to the simgot ew200? There's a few sellers here that sell them for 40$ same as the ew200! Would it be a side grade if I buy them? Since I already have the ew200s... Always wanted a planar set but money is tight for me as a college student in a third world country and these might just be my first ever permanent planar purchase(excluding the kz pr2 which I briefly returned after getting ear r*aped) Ps: I listen to a lot of j pop, like from Ado, Yoasobi, Yorushika, Eve, and Yuika to list a few.
Different presentations so they would compliment each other. The EW200 is more forward in the mids and treble and has more bass. The Pandamon is a more relaxed presentation.
@@TheHonestAudiophile I hope you don't mind me asking but what does relaxed mean? I hear it a lot but whenever I try searching for the meaning I can't seem to find it. Def gonna buy the Pandamons though, 40$ for a pair is way too good for me to miss out on.
@@TheHonestAudiophile oooohhhh! Thanks a lot for the quick replies! It cleared some things up for me. What a coincidence as well, that's exactly what I'm looking for rn. Since I already have an engaging pair and a bassy pair, a relaxed pair would be great for chilling while coding for homework!
Nice review on the kinera celest pandas..i use to know a girl named celest, but!! Anyway, i would take a shot at these, but that panda face on the sideplates, kinda ruins it for me ..guess i could always get inventive a put something over that panda face...who doeznt luv pandas...i just dont want there pix on the side of my iems..anywho..great review on comparing both iems...THA..
I came to thumbs up and comment but not to watch. The wallet is closed until late in the year : ) and I am too weak! So whenever you post a vid, I'll do it again
Me again, I only noticed now that you said it didn't have a good isolation, how bad it is? My home can be noisy, with people, birds and dogs, loud music on the street during weekends etc, so that got me worried a bit
@@TheHonestAudiophile thanks again. Just one more thing, hehe, do you know a good cable with mic for the Crin Zero? It needs the mic, because since I'll use it on my cellphone, I like to control the media using the button from the cable
Would it be a nice upgrade from a Crinacle Zero? I use it for gaming and music, but my songs goes from some heavy metal, symphonic metal, hip hop etc to J-Pop with a lot of high pitch notes and voices
@@TheHonestAudiophile Im a noob in this area, but sometimes I feel like the Zero doesn't meet my expectations on the mid and treble, it doesn't give me the same impact as the first good and balanced bass that I heard. You saying that the Pandamon its not that aggressive, makes me wonder that maybe I would get disappointed with it :/ One of the most difficult song for the phones that I tested it's this one, constant high pitch feminine vocal all the time, my moondrop quarkz suffers if I try to play it loud ua-cam.com/video/XzqwvYT_Rmw/v-deo.html
@@TheHonestAudiophile other options that I got recommended was the Tripowin X HBB, Salnotes Dioko and Truthear Hexa, but they cost almost twice than the Pandamon
Pandamon will be the most relaxed of them all. Dioko will be the oddest fit and have the most treble extension and detail retrieval. Hexa will be the most balanced but is kinda boring. Crin Zero is the most forward and aggressive in presentation. I am unsure which Tripowin HBB you are refering to. Between all of those I would choose the Kinera Pandamon.
@@TheHonestAudiophile I need to do some research, because I have no idea what relaxed, oddest fit, agressive, planar etc means hahaha But the Pandamon being a, maybe, better choice, it's good for me, it's less expensive and it looks like the more confortable The Tripowin its the Tripowin x HBB Olina SE
I know one is a DD and BA and the other is a planar but between the Ikko OH10 and the P1 Max what would the two of you choose and why? Huge fan of you both! Thanks!
I've not heard the FH3 since I reviewed it. Going off memory the FH3 slightly has better detail retrieval and resolution and a lot more bass impact. The Pandamon has better tone and timbre.
I got 1 set. They terrible for me. No bass. No mid bass and to Bright for my volumes . For a person that does not like bass and listen to lower volumes this may be perfect . For me. Its a no no
"Pandamon earphone shell adopts a new design, using a circular hollow faceplate with a unique sense of mechanical aesthetics. The hollow cavity has a strong sense of three-dimensionality visually, which is a perfect integration with inner mechanical artistry. Pandamon will use resin as shell material, the 3D cavity of pressed texture will be an iconic blend IEM design brilliance. Finely selected 304 stainless steel is used on IEM faceplate, each one going through multiple process including precision engraving, nickel electroplating and UV coloring to ensure a balanced & natural colour tone, smooth and shining body with intricate and long-lasting metal feature. We have used the Pandamon logo on IEM faceplate, presenting an artistic collision core design between mechanical rhythm and the ferocious Pandamon symbolized by its metal crushing teeth and flaming eyes." www.kineraaudio.com/product/celest-pandamon It is a semi open shell design, Kinera calls it a hollow design. The pictures in the website show it's open.
@@TheHonestAudiophile да но русские умельцы уже разбирали корпус, и в итоге оказалось что нет там ничего, это одна большая пластина и сеточка металлическая это обман, для красоты.
I just received my Pandamon and although the midbass is less than my prefered level I was pleasantly surprised with the subbass presence and extention and I have a difficult time faulting them otherwise. I complely agree with your assessment. These are outstanding for the price! 👍
Awesome 👍😎 Glad you enjoy the Pandamon. Thank you for the impressions.
Thanks for your review, Dave! I’ve been considering these, not just for the good price, sound signature but also for the hilarious graphics. I mean, who doesn’t love a RABID PANDA? 😉😂
You are welcome, my pleasure.
They are great experience all around.
07/23 - Everything Dave said about the Pandamon was spot on. And yes a big +1 about having a bit more body. Other than that, here is where my perception, naturally, changes a bit. Well, I am one of the lucky winners who IS sensitive to the 2k-4k environment, and levels above nominal level (preferring 75db and below) does not work for me. Once it goes above it, they turn resident evil on me (bite!). Now at nominal level and below....WOW! This was exactly what I was looking for, yet got a little more than what I assumed...Nice.
Also did some tweaking using Poweramp EQ (Android), and found some interesting flavors, but kept on coming back to it's natural form. These are amazing!...First taste of planar and I was engaging with them about half way into the 2nd song. Was criticizing initially instead of listening (Awareness is the Key to engagement).
Great for work, evening/easy comfortable listening and right into bed as well. 75db and below is where the magic is for me. My taste of genre is open minded, broad and I am very happy to say that these work well with many of them (not loud/just right). And of course...these are not for bass headz, but it does have a nice round tone with a nice oomph. For outdoor errands I prefer the TruthEar Crinacle Zero Reds because it's all I have (new to wired iem's)...Saving for the P1 MAX.
Thank You deeply Dave!
Jose - Lake Mary, FL
motorola ace 5, FiiO BTR5, Lenovo Laptop, Topping DX-1,1Mii B03 Bluetooth 5 Transmitter(TV to BTR5/LDAC stream) and UA-cam/Music streamer - Saudiophile (Simple Audiophile) setup. Works well for me. Hope this helps, a bit more, for those seeking honest reviews.
Awesome 👍 Thanks for the impressions. Glad you enjoy the Pandamon.
I will definitely order one pair! Thank you Dave!
Awesome! Look forward to hearing your impressions.
As I mentioned in your review of the Ghost, I just received the Pandamon a few days ago and ran it through various recordings. First thing though, I had two ultimate criteria before ordering them: sound quality (like everyone) and open back where you can hear your surroundings (unlike everyone). This security element is very important as I need to hear the phone ring or someone knocking at my door. If I'm not mistaken, the Pandamon is the only real open back under $100. There are other ones with a vent, but most of them seem to be only for there for the look. I was very surprised at the quality of these little things. I would have preferred more warmth, but that would have coloured the lower midrange and drive me nuts. The fast upright bass playing in Gogo Penguin, which is often boomy, is presented with speed and clarity here - no boom, just punchy and quick. Listening to Barshai's Shostakovich symphonies was met with an open and clear soundstage, with no frequency trying to fight with another one. This gives it a deceptively 'relaxed' sound. But then I listened to Rammstein's first album and I found myself moving my head up and down - definitely not relaxed. Just clean music. I think the Pandamon is good with every and any type of music, unless you purposely want exaggerated extremities. A keeper for sure!
Awesomeness 😎 Glad you enjoy the Pandamon. Thanks for the impressions.
Thanks Dave! I will definitely give these a look! 👍👍👍
My pleasure, you're welcome. Look forward to hearing your impressions.
Conclusion: P1 Max wins again👍
If I have two alternatives, pandamon for 45$ and P1 max for 110$, should I really pay 2.5 times more money for P1 max, does it worth this difference? Or it is very close to each other regardless the price difference?
Different presentation and the P1 Max is a significant step up in my opinion, especially when powered accurately.
Another fabulous review, but that is just what I expect every time that I click on one of your videos. By the way, did you get your new coffee maker? Aeropress?
Thank you for the kind words, much appreciated.
Aeropress is on it's way :)
@@TheHonestAudiophile I think you should do a special video after you get it and let people know how you like it once you are used to it. You can call it The Honest Coffiophile Review. :)
I have considered doing videos that pair coffee roasts and brewing styles with different audio gear.
D+ is a solid rating. Thanks, Dave.
My pleasure, you're welcome!
I guess the killer for me, is that the sound leaks in and out. For me, the main purpose of a IEM is to be able to go out into the public domain. There use is limited to the home and there are full size headphones for that purpose.
Again, shouldn't an inner ear number one criteria be the ability to use them out in the public?
You can use these in public, they don't leak that much. Just have to be mindful of your music choices, how loud your playing them and how close you are to another person.
@@TheHonestAudiophile Thanks for further information 😊
My pleasure, you're welcome.
Hello Dave ! Are you planning to review the motu m2 ?
A video is planned and on the schedule, final date to be determined.
@@TheHonestAudiophile Awesome
What do you think of these when compared to the simgot ew200? There's a few sellers here that sell them for 40$ same as the ew200! Would it be a side grade if I buy them? Since I already have the ew200s... Always wanted a planar set but money is tight for me as a college student in a third world country and these might just be my first ever permanent planar purchase(excluding the kz pr2 which I briefly returned after getting ear r*aped)
Ps: I listen to a lot of j pop, like from Ado, Yoasobi, Yorushika, Eve, and Yuika to list a few.
Different presentations so they would compliment each other. The EW200 is more forward in the mids and treble and has more bass. The Pandamon is a more relaxed presentation.
@@TheHonestAudiophile I hope you don't mind me asking but what does relaxed mean? I hear it a lot but whenever I try searching for the meaning I can't seem to find it. Def gonna buy the Pandamons though, 40$ for a pair is way too good for me to miss out on.
@Fennetic relaxed is a warmer, pleasant sound that sounds give off a vibe of relaxation. Relaxed sound doesn't have elevated mids and treble.
@@TheHonestAudiophile oooohhhh! Thanks a lot for the quick replies! It cleared some things up for me.
What a coincidence as well, that's exactly what I'm looking for rn. Since I already have an engaging pair and a bassy pair, a relaxed pair would be great for chilling while coding for homework!
@Fennetic glad to help. You're welcome.
kinera celest wyvern pro please
Review coming at some point. Have 30 plus products on the schedule.
Nice review on the kinera celest pandas..i use to know a girl named celest, but!! Anyway, i would take a shot at these, but that panda face on the sideplates, kinda ruins it for me ..guess i could always get inventive a put something over that panda face...who doeznt luv pandas...i just dont want there pix on the side of my iems..anywho..great review on comparing both iems...THA..
You don't see the panda when listening to them :)
Thank you for the kind words, much appreciated.
@@TheHonestAudiophile lol...thats right..
Hello :) at around 60 bucks, is there something better in technicalities than the pandamon?
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I came to thumbs up and comment but not to watch. The wallet is closed until late in the year : ) and I am too weak! So whenever you post a vid, I'll do it again
I understand. Thanks for watching, thumbs up and commenting.
Me again, I only noticed now that you said it didn't have a good isolation, how bad it is? My home can be noisy, with people, birds and dogs, loud music on the street during weekends etc, so that got me worried a bit
It's an open back IEM so there is a little bit of outside noise bleeding in when music isn't playing.
@@TheHonestAudiophile If its the same as a Cloud Stinger or others overears HS, its okay
Similar for sure
@@TheHonestAudiophile thanks again.
Just one more thing, hehe, do you know a good cable with mic for the Crin Zero? It needs the mic, because since I'll use it on my cellphone, I like to control the media using the button from the cable
I don't use mic often when using IEM. I do like the Kinera Ruyi cable.
Would it be a nice upgrade from a Crinacle Zero? I use it for gaming and music, but my songs goes from some heavy metal, symphonic metal, hip hop etc to J-Pop with a lot of high pitch notes and voices
Pandamon is more relaxed, slightly warmer, not as aggressive in the upper mids and treble. It would compliment the Crin Zero.
@@TheHonestAudiophile Im a noob in this area, but sometimes I feel like the Zero doesn't meet my expectations on the mid and treble, it doesn't give me the same impact as the first good and balanced bass that I heard. You saying that the Pandamon its not that aggressive, makes me wonder that maybe I would get disappointed with it :/
One of the most difficult song for the phones that I tested it's this one, constant high pitch feminine vocal all the time, my moondrop quarkz suffers if I try to play it loud
ua-cam.com/video/XzqwvYT_Rmw/v-deo.html
@@TheHonestAudiophile other options that I got recommended was the Tripowin X HBB, Salnotes Dioko and Truthear Hexa, but they cost almost twice than the Pandamon
Pandamon will be the most relaxed of them all. Dioko will be the oddest fit and have the most treble extension and detail retrieval. Hexa will be the most balanced but is kinda boring.
Crin Zero is the most forward and aggressive in presentation.
I am unsure which Tripowin HBB you are refering to.
Between all of those I would choose the Kinera Pandamon.
@@TheHonestAudiophile I need to do some research, because I have no idea what relaxed, oddest fit, agressive, planar etc means hahaha
But the Pandamon being a, maybe, better choice, it's good for me, it's less expensive and it looks like the more confortable
The Tripowin its the Tripowin x HBB Olina SE
P1 Max on sale is the ultimate value maybe ever haha
The T2 is a great value as well. But the P1 Max on sale is a fantastic value.
I know one is a DD and BA and the other is a planar but between the Ikko OH10 and the P1 Max what would the two of you choose and why?
Huge fan of you both! Thanks!
@@wana.me003 P1 Max is dang good value… haven’t tried the oh10 myself… thanks! Yeah, I’d chose P1 Max for its sound for price… it’s stinking good…
@Wal Wanami I'd choose the P1 Max. Here is a link to my OH10 review, it explains why I don't suggest it 😉ua-cam.com/video/RSGJ21dmzJw/v-deo.html
I thank both of you for your prompt responses! 🙏
These sound promising to me. If these sound a bit boring, so to say....it could mean these are actually "good" 😎
Look forward to hearing your impressions of the Pandamon if you choose to purchase.
👍
how is the mids compared to simgot ea500 ? i didnt like the mids timbre of simgot
Mids are slightly warmer, more note weight and more natural tone and timbre than the EA500.
Pandamon or Fiio FH3?
I've not heard the FH3 since I reviewed it. Going off memory the FH3 slightly has better detail retrieval and resolution and a lot more bass impact. The Pandamon has better tone and timbre.
I got 1 set. They terrible for me. No bass. No mid bass and to Bright for my volumes . For a person that does not like bass and listen to lower volumes this may be perfect . For me. Its a no no
Sorry to hear that. Thank you for the impressions.
Эти наушники не ОТКРЫТЫЕ!!
"Pandamon earphone shell adopts a new design, using a circular hollow faceplate with a unique sense of mechanical aesthetics. The hollow cavity has a strong sense of three-dimensionality visually, which is a perfect integration with inner mechanical artistry. Pandamon will use resin as shell material, the 3D cavity of pressed texture will be an iconic blend IEM design brilliance.
Finely selected 304 stainless steel is used on IEM faceplate, each one going through multiple process including precision engraving, nickel electroplating and UV coloring to ensure a balanced & natural colour tone, smooth and shining body with intricate and long-lasting metal feature.
We have used the Pandamon logo on IEM faceplate, presenting an artistic collision core design between mechanical rhythm and the ferocious Pandamon symbolized by its metal crushing teeth and flaming eyes."
www.kineraaudio.com/product/celest-pandamon
It is a semi open shell design, Kinera calls it a hollow design. The pictures in the website show it's open.
@@TheHonestAudiophile да но русские умельцы уже разбирали корпус, и в итоге оказалось что нет там ничего, это одна большая пластина и сеточка металлическая это обман, для красоты.
That's why it's called "hollow" or open!
@@TheHonestAudiophile да но снаружи где нарисована панда, там нет открытых деталей и сетка для декора и красоты, это закрытые наушники