Why I DON’T follow the CURLY GIRL METHOD // Does this version really make sense for coily hair?!

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  • PLEASE READ THE PINNED COMMENT!! Sharing all my opinions on why I don’t follow the curly girl method - according to NaturallyCurly.com's version. Can coily haired girls really use this without modifying?
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  • @PB-xr6yi
    @PB-xr6yi 4 роки тому +212

    The thing about the CGM that rly gets me is the no comb and brush part. Like gurll come on.Aint nobody got time or patience to be finger detangling. I NEED my tangle teezer😭🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +89

      Shall we all just be honest with ourselves..I have patience for a lot of things: braiding my hair for 16 hours, editing one YT video for 14 hours, waiting for newly painted walls to dry...
      finger detangling is not one of them. Having all my loose hairs stick to my hands when I'm trying to moisturise/style after washing and conditioning has got to be in my TOP 5 pet peeves. No ma'am.

    • @PB-xr6yi
      @PB-xr6yi 4 роки тому +14

      Afope Atoyebi honestly 😭Finger detangling is just not something I’m willing to make time for.

    • @RebekkaHay
      @RebekkaHay 3 роки тому +16

      The Tangle Teaser wasn’t invented yet when she wrote the book 25 years ago 😉

    • @britjj5126
      @britjj5126 3 роки тому +6

      @@RebekkaHay hmm you make a good point!

    • @rani.andretti
      @rani.andretti 3 роки тому +6

      @@RebekkaHay I mean, they could recommend another brush. It's all about how careful you are. The tangle teezer is not a miracle solution if people are still ripping through their hair

  • @jasminelambert3753
    @jasminelambert3753 3 роки тому +102

    Honestly I think most people who “follow” the curly girl method actually just kind of loosely follow it. Most of us use curly girl approved products most of the time and then do reset washes every so often with sulfate shampoos to get rid of build up. Some of us also still use heat or bleach/dye. Almost all of us use some kind of comb or brush. I think the curly girl method is a good place to start, but it absolutely is not a hard and fast rule for everyone. Everyone should do what works for them honestly

  • @ruthcarter1063
    @ruthcarter1063 4 роки тому +208

    LOL!!!! Girl! When you looked up Lorraine's hair I cackled lol

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +42

      Sis! I almost collapsed. 😭

    • @1naturalbeauty
      @1naturalbeauty 3 роки тому +4

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Caliashante
      @Caliashante 3 роки тому +6

      😂 I was like mmmmmm not surprised because these instructions ain’t it.

    • @cfoster6804
      @cfoster6804 3 роки тому +1

      @@Caliashante 🤣

    • @TandZAptLife
      @TandZAptLife 3 роки тому +1

      Me too!😅

  • @user-ot7ue2yb2e
    @user-ot7ue2yb2e 3 роки тому +63

    that article shows just how much people with non-coily hair completely misunderstand and even unfairly stereotype coily hair! like assuming everyone with coily hair has a dry scalp or the same porosity, level of damage, etc. that article over-simplifies pretty much everything about hair, but the coily hair tips as you showed are clearly the worst. it just goes to show how important it is for coily hair education to be done by people with coily hair!

  • @finecurls2291
    @finecurls2291 4 роки тому +81

    The curly girl Method was created for one size fits all and in reality hair isn't one size fits all. We all have different hair and different needs.

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +16

      Straight facts on hair having different needs

  • @SARAVANDEGIRL
    @SARAVANDEGIRL 3 роки тому +18

    Hi folks, I’ve coily textured hair and I’ve been using the CGM and it’s been doing wonders for my hair.
    Said no one ever

  • @prettyangel0921
    @prettyangel0921 4 роки тому +57

    I read and used most of the curly girl method. It made my 4a/b curls pop. I modified it though cuz some parts didn’t make sense. I use sulfate free shampoo due to my scalp getting build up super easy and I use the Felicia leatherwood brush for detangling. From my experience her tips work but use common sense when you see that your hair is responding well to cowashing only or having way too many single strand knots. There is nothing wrong with modifying to your hair needs!

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +23

      This is EXACTLY what I'm saying. No matter who is giving advice on how to handle your hair (myself included), apply common sense. If it doesn't make sense for you - trash it. If it works, keep it. But some of these steps... girl...

    • @relifeconfirmed
      @relifeconfirmed 2 роки тому +1

      Wait, I have many single knots.. I have never seen this or when I show it to someone nobody understands that.. I don't follow the CGM method, Can u tell me what to do..??

  • @orangefox5121
    @orangefox5121 3 роки тому +41

    Actually CGM is absolutely wrong for the wavy textured hair as wavy hair is often growing from normal or oily scalps and those types of scalps should never cowash, just use a normal, sulfate containing shampoo and alternate those with low poos.

    • @bewitched2918
      @bewitched2918 3 роки тому

      Hi! I have wavy hair, could you explain a little more?

    • @orangefox5121
      @orangefox5121 3 роки тому

      @@bewitched2918 explain what exactly? As a wavy you should not follow strict cgm, it is not meant for wavies, follow what works for your hair, use the normal shampoo if your hair likes it, whatever conditioner and products help it and forget about cowashing - it is WRONG method and leads to hair loss

    • @bewitched2918
      @bewitched2918 3 роки тому

      @@orangefox5121 Oh, I'm doing well, then, I use a clarifiying shampoo once a month, a low poo, conditioner every day that I wash my hair, a mask once a week and a Deep conditioner too (not every week)
      Also I have a Dry Scalp
      Thank you very much for your answer!

    • @gorrillababy2000
      @gorrillababy2000 2 роки тому

      Yeahhhh exactly.. same

  • @jennys9043
    @jennys9043 3 роки тому +37

    the auto generated subtitles when she starts listing chemicals "sdlfo qlkesifm sd;lldis sla;dslkei" youtube needs to study up on it's chemsitry lol

  • @livelovelife32
    @livelovelife32 3 роки тому +29

    Don't forget the age of this book. All information has an expiration date as new information approves or disproves it. Idk anyone now that follows the cg method to the letter.

  • @aquafina6544
    @aquafina6544 4 роки тому +13

    I've NEVER did the cg method bcus if you look at the pics it let you know it wasn't for us!
    But I know ppl who did this for yrs but there curls were not kinky.

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +4

      It did come across like the coily hair considerations were an afterthought :/

  • @aquafina6544
    @aquafina6544 4 роки тому +11

    I tried the co wash thing b4 cowashes were on the market an bay bae my hair was a dry frizzy mess!
    I quickly went back to old school staples shampoo and conditioner every week.

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +3

      🤦🏾‍♀️😭 Dear Lord. The important thing is that you made the right decision for YOU. If it's not working, it's not working.

  • @Construyendoaishtar
    @Construyendoaishtar 3 роки тому +17

    I'm one of those who saw a few videos about CGM and jumped on the bandwagon. I'm a 2C but my hair never felt conditioned enough, I had lots of build up, and developed seborreric dermaritis which I'm still fighting. It's not for everyone, especially if you have hard water.

  • @karenhorton148
    @karenhorton148 3 роки тому +129

    THIS is why so many Deva Curl consumers have lost their hair🤓

    • @SwavyBlonde
      @SwavyBlonde 3 роки тому +41

      Yep, my thoughts exactly! Especially if they had dermatitis! Washing with conditioner will lead straight to a serious scalp issues.

    • @Phoenixhunter157
      @Phoenixhunter157 3 роки тому +33

      I’ve been doing my own methods my whole life. Then I finally decided to try cgm. I bought deva curl . My hair fell out. Broke off. My scalp burned and broke out......I had to stop. Thank god I did because I was seeing lawsuits against devacurl. I only tried it for a month or 2 and it did a lot of damage. That was late 2019. My hair is still growing out and recovering from devacurl and cgm. Screw that mess! 🤬

    • @nicoledambacher4660
      @nicoledambacher4660 3 роки тому +19

      I don't disagree with what you're saying just wanted to add that I also heard from people who don't to cgm and only used like one DC product that they had problems so I think there has to be something wrong with the products themselves too

    • @chalseywilder937
      @chalseywilder937 3 роки тому +4

      @@Phoenixhunter157 I believe the deva curl products was exclusively your problem.

    • @chalseywilder937
      @chalseywilder937 3 роки тому +1

      @Nina Aden that's not the way I meant it. I know it happened to many women

  • @Angelaangelat
    @Angelaangelat 4 роки тому +41

    When you said “Hey Siri,” it got activated on my iPad!!😆I’m a wavy/curly girl but I enjoy your channel!

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +2

      Haahahha, this kept happening to me too when I was editing 😭😂 Thanks for the love! Have you tried the CG method?

    • @Angelaangelat
      @Angelaangelat 4 роки тому +5

      Afope Atoyebi that’s too funny! I’ve been doing the cgm since January of 2019 with mostly bad hair days! I just recently gave up on it...but then decided to give it one more try and ended up having great results. So I think I’ll keep going with it! I live in Florida so I have to make it work with the humidity! The Ouidad climate control gel worked great for me. I have some hilarious pics of what happens to my hair!

  • @SwavyBlonde
    @SwavyBlonde 3 роки тому +19

    I'm wavy but very soon stopped following CGM as I just can't co-wash. I have dermatitis and my scalp got quickly itchy. Nevertheless my hair was constantly greasy at the roots. There was no way of not brushing my hair - I literally had a rat nest, it looked absolutely awful (fine extremely dense hair here). Also, towel dried hair styling doesn't work for me, my hair needs to be soaking wet to look good after. I'm not able to air dry my hair unless it's hot summer day and even then it takes me about an hour to dry. So, no, thanks. Not for wavy hair either.

    • @melz6625
      @melz6625 3 роки тому

      hii, I have wavy hair and like many have discovered that past summer quarantine as all my life before I always straight blow dried it. It looked frizzy often but I thought it’s just me having frizzy hair. I like the idea of waves but I haven’t been able to make it work beyond wash day. Do you brush your hair after washing? How do you style it in the morning? Mine looked like a rat’s nest and after fall started I went back to straightening it. Any tips?

    • @ina7084
      @ina7084 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, the CGM is bad for wavy hair..
      Soon after following it you get build up of conditioning product (because it's not so unheard of for wavy hair to also be low porosity) and the method just isn't it..
      Our hair also ends up insanely tangled without brushing whatsoever because it's usually on the longer side than coily hair is..
      I tried it for a bit and ditched it.
      It figured it too clean beautyesque and unnatural product phobic..
      Built on misinformation.
      The part where they said not to wash out conditioner out of wavy hair completely was red flag no. 1 for me when I first started.

    • @marleyhill34
      @marleyhill34 3 роки тому

      Same with the sensitive scalp developing dermatitis. used organic shampoo instead for a while.

    • @fakebird2
      @fakebird2 2 роки тому +1

      @@melz6625 Hi, so I have 2C-3A hair mostly (though you'll find the random 2B and 3B in parts of my hair) and I do a modified cgm. I use a sulfate free shampoo most wash days, and I wash my hair typically after 4-5 days. I do the squish to condish method after shampooing with a conditioner, and I finger detangle at that time to get the big tangles out since I don't brush throughout the week. Then I apply a leave in conditioner to my soaking wet hair - depending on your hairs thickness, density, and porosity you may need to experiment with what type of leave in conditioner will provide the most softness and moisture while not being too heavy. Once the leave in is applied, I brush through with a denman brush (doesn't have to be a denman, could just be a plain old wide toothed comb) to get any of the smaller tangles out. Then I apply my gel - I absolutely adore spray gels! They don't weigh my hair down as much or give me too much definition at the expense of volume. Once I've applied enough of the gel I scrunch, making sure to flip my hair around so I'm getting every spot. Once I'm satisfied with the scrunching, I plop my hair for a few minutes with a microfiber towel so it isn't soaking, then diffuse until dry. There should be a gel cast at this point that you must scrunch out - use a tiny amount of a light oil (argan or jojoba are usually good choices) to scrunch out the crunch. I do need to refresh daily, but usually I just use steam and maybe a bit of gel or leave in to smooth out the tangled frizzy parts. My hair health has been so much better once I started treating it this way, I never knew my hair could fork actual thick ringlets :)

  • @DiscoBewts
    @DiscoBewts 3 роки тому +17

    I see a lot of natural hair stylists on twitter who claim that people only need a shampoo, conditioner, and a gel in their hair and I was so weirded out, and seeing it on the cgm I'm even more weirded out! GEL WITH NO MOISTURE????

    • @ChristsChemist
      @ChristsChemist 3 роки тому +7

      Sounds similar to what the Black Girl Curls ladies, who are licensed cosmetologists, have said. They modified the curly girl methodology several years ago to make it applicable to kinkier hair types and it's been enabling many of their clients to wear wash and gos. They also are big time promoters of doing ones hair in 1 hr as opposed to the 8hr wash day many of us have become accustomed to hearing promoted throughout these UA-cam streets. I don't know a lot about it but have been getting as much info as I can to see if this is something I might want to try in the future. Would love to hear Fop's opinion on their take on natural hair.

    • @britjj5126
      @britjj5126 3 роки тому +3

      I have type 4 high porosity hair and only use one product for my wash and go’s and yes I regularly use only gel! Works a treat.
      Interesting enough I’d gone into a beauty shop and a white sales lady suggested ouidads gel that had rave reviews and when I asked which leave-in it comes with it she looked puzzled and said it works great on its own and why make life harder on myself by using multiple products... I was shook at the logic but it actually gave me pause and made me think. So I tried it by itself and it was one of the best wash and gos I’ve had. Mind you I co wash every other day and shampoo once a week. Ive also had a couple of keratin treatments in the last year so there’s that... My go to gels are: “ouidad advanced climate control heat and humidity gel” and “ Curl Gel Humid Weather Clever”. Sometimes I get away with just using a foam for my wash and go! I only use .the brand product “Clever Curl Wonderfoam” for this.
      You have to remember that the *water is the moisture* so when I do my styling in the shower I saturate my sectioned hair with water then go in and coat/rake the gel into my strands to lock the water or moisture in place. If I’m doing the styling out of the shower I use my spray bottle of water to spray down the hair, working in sections and then go in with the gel to coat and rake it through my hair. This works well if you’re not using sulphates, silicones, minerals etc in your hair products to begin with because it gives your hair a good foundation to retain the moisture/water.

    • @ChristsChemist
      @ChristsChemist 3 роки тому +1

      @@britjj5126 do you live in a warm or cold climate? It's in the single digits in my area right now. I just tried a wash and go a few weeks ago, and I didn't like it. But I did use a leave in with the gel that I used so maybe that was the issue. I also heard that people who do gel only wash and gos use two gels to style their hair, one of which is usually a botanical gel.
      As soon as I use up my product stash, which is enough to last me for about a year (with washing my hair 1-2x a week on average), I definitely will try this out. It's just that I had FOMO as a result of watching UA-camrs making videos for years and not being in the financial position to afford to purchase many of them. Either because I was living in an expensive city or was unemployed, or not making much money when I started working. For the same reason going to a hairstylist was the last thing on my list since I could manage taking care of my own hair. So once I saw all the pre-black Friday and Black Friday sales last year I went a little overboard, buying a bunch of new stuff to try. I rationalized spending all that money on the fact that I don't go to the salon. At least several of the things I have used are high quality and some of them are salon products that were recommended by cosmetologists on this platform.

    • @britjj5126
      @britjj5126 3 роки тому +1

      @@ChristsChemist hehe I’m a bit of product junkie myself but been trying to reign it in. I live in Australia and often get the dry, scorching heat! Thankfully I live in an area that experiences all the seasons. Currently it’s summer and although we experience dry heat it does get humid from time to time. My hair grows the most in summer so I take advantage of this by wearing wash and go’s.

    • @marleyhill34
      @marleyhill34 3 роки тому

      My trichologists would scream no. You need a detangler and a leave-in "protector" i.e. leave-in conditioner.

  • @tobekai
    @tobekai 4 роки тому +35

    👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 The new girls need this. I realized way back this wasnt for me. But this was the go to method when I first went natural.

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +5

      It's definitely one of the most popular options out there so for sure newbies need to be informed so they can either choose to modify accordingly or do without entirely.

    • @itl5196
      @itl5196 3 роки тому

      FACTS

  • @SFBL1
    @SFBL1 4 роки тому +30

    All this time I thought Lorraine Massey was black. 😳

  • @victoriamitchell6240
    @victoriamitchell6240 4 роки тому +45

    The educated and sophisticated read HUN-TY!!!! I loved it!!! The info here is so good. Being that I still consider myself new to my natural hair, its good to see that the CGM isnt necessarily for everyone. Sometimes it feels like if you're not doing things a certain way that you're doing it wrong. So grateful for those video and the info it provided. I'm starting to see a lot more videos like this that shows there aren't "rules" as long as you're listening to your hair and doing what works!

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +5

      😭😂😭 You're so spot on, sis. There are really no "rules" per se. The best I can do is provide/present information that has been tried, tested, or proven. But hair is not a monolith, so it's still up to each individual to apply common sense to this information first, before they apply it to their hair. It just pains me that there are still people out there who are so frustrated with trying to understand their hair that they end up trying things that do their hair a disservice - by which point the damage may be irreversible.

  • @TanglesunTamed
    @TanglesunTamed 4 роки тому +24

    It sounded like Lorraine would look like that. Even though my sister’s name is Lorraine I knew this Lorraine would not look like me and her 😊 sounds like they threw in that kinky part, to get more people to buy the book and they interviewed someone to use buzz words but they have no clue really. Thank you for breaking it down sis 💯

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +6

      I'm literally crying of laughter remembering how I felt when I found her bio. Your sentiments were mine exactly. It clearly works really well for wavy/curly hair, but it's okay if it's not for coily hair. We'll be alright without it 😭

    • @archaurore3323
      @archaurore3323 3 місяці тому

      @@AfopeAtoyebi I hear you keep saying that it's good for wavy hair, and I can assure you fully that it is not! If you have an oily scalp you're in for a rough time with CGM. If you have a scalp condition due to oily scalp, you're in for an even rougher time! If you are wavy and oily, co-washing is a bad idea.
      Also finger detangling in the shower even with conditioner might work for some people, but not for me! I pulled out a lot of hair by trying this. I think it depends on the porosity of your hair whether you can do this kind of detangling. I have to do it when my hair is dry or else I yank too much hair out.☺

  • @sophiab7368
    @sophiab7368 3 роки тому +15

    Lemme just say I have wavy hair, like 2b/2c and I tried this and it no ways worked for me and just screwed up my scalp. I had dull limp hair from to much product, or too little product and had acne on my scalp. My hair ended up being dry because it wasn’t retaining moisture because I live where it’s cold and dry and actually need products with silicone. Also I always looked like a troll because suddenly my wide tooth comb was the devil. So I don’t know really who the heck CGM is supposed to be for because it ain’t my jam.

  • @kaytheeintrovert6260
    @kaytheeintrovert6260 4 роки тому +28

    I got excited when I woke up and saw you uploaded 😁 science geek here, love your videos

  • @1922mistyblue
    @1922mistyblue 4 роки тому +21

    I have 3c/4a hair and I avoid mineral oils, parabens, sulfates, silicones, phthalates, and waxes. There are so many products from Black owned brands like Soultanicals and Natty Naturals. I wash and deep conditioner my hair once a week. I also finger detangle. Hope that helps.

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +5

      LOVE LOVE LOVE Soultanicals! Wish it was easier to come by over here. The bits of the method you've taken are sensible ones - they make sense, but I have a couple questions: how dense is your hair? and does to blot drying with the cupping also work for your hair?

    • @1922mistyblue
      @1922mistyblue 4 роки тому +3

      Afope Atoyebi i have low density and fine strands. I usually wet plop with a T-shirt turban. But I have scrunched out excess water with no issues. I do tend to experience tangles when I do wash and gos for a week at a time. Less tangles when I have twists in.

  • @ainsleygritter7552
    @ainsleygritter7552 3 роки тому +4

    I have wavy hair and have been following the curly girl method for 2 years now. I never learned the method from the book or the website but from other curly girls on UA-cam. I find that for most curly girls that I’ve come across, they only use curly girl approved products and not any of Loraine’s “methods”. I had no idea about her weird methods until this video! Most curly girls are still brushing their hair and using cream stylers!

  • @rhonnieaye
    @rhonnieaye 4 роки тому +27

    Fops: Look into my eyes.
    Me: Tell me what you see.
    LOL
    But yeah, My hair and scalp likes me best when I wash it once a week, with shampoo.
    I use grease *insert gasps and glares* so co-washing ain't gonna do it for me.
    I don't deep condition every week. I do it every other week. The weeks when I don't, I do leave the rinse out conditioner on for a little while, make me feel like I'm doing something.
    I don't have the patience to solely finger detangle. I get impatient and start ripping the knots out. Combs and brushes saved my hair. LOL. Plus I hate the feeling fo shed hair on my hands and fingers.

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +6

      😂😂 Honestly one of the most frustrating feelings is loose hairs on my fingers - especially when I'm trying to moisturise. Can't stand it.

    • @randomchik62
      @randomchik62 3 роки тому +1

      Girl yes I hate shed hair even though it's mine 🤣

  • @anitawallace2166
    @anitawallace2166 4 роки тому +3

    MY HAIR IS 3B,C. I roller set my hair and occasionally relaxed it my whole life. I wanted an easier way to care for my hair when I travel so I looked into just letting it dry. What a frizzy mess! then I read Massey’s book. I never did true co-washing with regular conditioner because that just didn’t make sense to me. I use co-washes like As I Am, deep condition every other week, clarify once a month, and use a variety of styling products. I’ve been doing it for a year now and my hair is healthier than it has ever been with lots of soft ringlets. I enjoy experimenting with different products. It’s like a new hobby. I’ve always washed once a week so no change there. I’ve been avoiding silicones, but after watching your videos I may relax on that a little. I learned so much from CGM about how to care for my natural hair, but I also feel free to modify it to suit me. What started as a plan for travel hair has become the new me!
    I really enjoy your videos and how you base what you say on science.

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +2

      LOVE THIS! Many if not all the comments I've read on using the cg method for type 3-4 hair state that they've been modified. This puts me more at ease because it's always ideal for people to shape the method to suit them, and not vice versa - that's where issues arise. Thanks Anita!

    • @anitawallace2166
      @anitawallace2166 4 роки тому

      Afope Atoyebi Some of the CGM groups on Facebook are like a cult. They will ban you for even asking a question about shampoo or brushing. I was fortunate that the first group I found was called CGM, Uncensored. They will teach you about the method, share their experiences, but then say to do what works for you. The members range from barely wavy to kinky.

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому

      Anita Wallace I’m glad it has worked for so many people, but it becomes a problem when you can’t accept the idea that it may not necessarily work equally well for everyone.

  • @julia.md2b707
    @julia.md2b707 3 роки тому +3

    I have 2b-3a hair so definitely on the wavy side. I very loosely follow certain. But I wash twice a week, always detangle with a wet brush, diffuse my hair and wash with a sulfate shampoo every 3-4 weeks. I feel like my routine is much more similar to many others who “follow” cgm even if they have much curlier hair. I love that you go into the science behind everything

  • @SarahSanders-pr7rj
    @SarahSanders-pr7rj 2 роки тому +2

    I have what curly girls would call "wavy" hair, though I'm in the upper 2 range. The CGM is definitely only for curlies. Not coily or even wavy. My hair LOVES silicones. To simplify, my hair is closer to the texture of a caucasian toddler, prone to tons of tangles after just hours! I need a coating agent to keep tangles away, and I need sulfates (or at least real shampoo ingredients) to keep my hair from becoming a big greasy mess.

    • @yakult9618
      @yakult9618 2 роки тому

      i have curly hair and cgm completely destroyed my scalp and hair. i dont think this method is good for anyone 😭

  • @ArtisticTee
    @ArtisticTee 3 роки тому +4

    Hi, I use a version of the curly girl method. I have 4a/4b extremely fine hair. My hair is waist length and thriving. I cowash my hair weekly and finger detangle. Finger detangling does take longer to do, but I have extremely fine strands and after giving up combs I noticed a huge difference in the breakage and no longer have those thin, tapered ends. It is effective for me, but I can see it damaging and matting someones hair if they aren't willing to put the time in, you really can't rush it. My staple style is a wash and go. Somehow, my hair tangles the least in a wash and go state (which seems weird but that's how it is). My hair clumps pretty easily from cowashing and leaving in a thick cream or conditioner. As long as I don't disturb the clumps too much, they stay clumped until my next wash day. I only get bad knots when I do twistouts and stretched styles (probably because my hair can't clump) so I don't do them regularly. I shampoo once a month with sulfates and get deva cuts 2-3x a year to clean up the ends. I do get single strand knots, but they really arent problematic for me if I am consitent with the haircuts. If I go too long without one, I do see an increase in tangling but that's easily fixed.

  • @ldunn2
    @ldunn2 3 роки тому +2

    Girl you truly know wtf you are talking about and I'm here for it! AfrikanHairGod sent me here and I'm thanking him on his next live! ❤️

  • @KattMurr
    @KattMurr 3 роки тому +2

    As my picture shows, I have wavy, frizzy gray hair. I came across cgm when I looked up how to untangle a mat of hair I woke up with one day a couple years ago. I read about it and watch a variety of UA-cam videos and I tried different things I saw or read and just did what works. My hair is more defined then ever and that makes me happy. Its a very fascinating journey to say the least! I was never a fan of silicones prior to learning about cgm, so that's nothing new. For some reason they made my hair frizzier. I now know how to use a diffuser, so that's made a huge difference too. I also love learning about all the different types of hair from wavy to kinky. I wish I knew all this after the big hair days of the 80's! Lol....my hair was perfect for that style! From the 90's on, I didn't do a whole lot with my hair except wear it in a ponytail most of the time. Now I know better and can flaunt my beautiful wavy gray hair!! 😊

  • @asceticfeminine
    @asceticfeminine 2 роки тому +1

    The curly girl method completely ruined my hair. I was commiting to going heatless and decided to let my natural curls shine through. I eliminated silicone and sulfates and cut my hair so my curl pattern would be enhanced. I have very fine hair and i will admit that I did not take any other necessary steps to preserving the health of my hair. It's been almost 2 years and my hair just keeps. Breaking. Off. Higher and higher to the point where I don't know if cutting it off will do anything. The curls are out of control on the under layers on my hair and there is no texture on the exterior. I look like a sewer rat out of the shower. Silicone conditioner is giving me breakouts on my body so I have been putting it in after I shower. There isn't enough to braid. There isn't enough to put up. I don't want to chop it but I think I have to.

  • @dylanmartinez6286
    @dylanmartinez6286 3 роки тому +3

    Legit your channel saved my hair I like how you go through things versus just saying do this or just blanketing all hair types and porosity into one box. Just these tips alone have helped me so much and my hair is already thanking me!

  • @jackywairegi2316
    @jackywairegi2316 4 роки тому +23

    Finally someone is speaking my thoughts 😂 11:28 my exact reaction

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +3

      😭😂😭😂 Don't get me going again

  • @AudrinaMystique
    @AudrinaMystique 2 роки тому

    I used to follow this method religiously. But honestly, a full wash/condition every day on top of normal body washing took too much product and energy to sustain in College and later in the work force. I find that the CG method's aim is to create and maintain perfect ringlets. Not all of us have that much money to spend on conditioner. I now wash and condition my hair about once a week (more in summer) and in between I clean it using the Victorian era soft-bristle brush method to remove dandruff, dirt, etc. and a little bit of coconut oil for moisture. It's a VERY different esthetic, but I've really come to appreciate it.

  • @michelleelizabeth797
    @michelleelizabeth797 4 роки тому +6

    I could never follow the curly girl method, for one I need to use a sulfate shampoo at least twice a month and I hate using cowash, I need hair my hair to feel completely clean after washing, Excellent content as always.

  • @ValerieBerezina
    @ValerieBerezina 2 роки тому +1

    My hair was completely straight for 41 years of my life and then started changing towards wavy. I am 47 now and am probably 2B/2C. For the longest time I had no idea at all what to do with this new wavy hair, as my old hair products and techniques were not working any longer. So I started to look things up on the internet, and that's how I came across the CGM. But even then, not knowing the first thing about wavy and curly hair, I felt that the CGM was unnecessarily complicated and super restrictive, with some parts of it being positively weird (such as no combing and only co-washing). Also, I have a flaky and itchy scalp, just like Afope mentions in the video, so I really need to wash my hair every day with a special shampoo to prevent this condition, there's just no other choice for me. I'm glad I decided early on that I was not interested in the CGM, because as I can see now it would not have helped me anyway, my hair being wavy and not coily curly (for which this method was originally developed, I guess). Thank you for the video, it's very important for people to know, especially for newbies, that the CGM is not the only option out there and that it's not a holy grail solution for everyone.

  • @joybanks4974
    @joybanks4974 4 роки тому +4

    I have 4a texture. I followed Influencer, Mahogany Curls, who used the curly girl method when I first went natural. My hair grew to waist length. The information you found is different from what I followed.

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +5

      Thanks for this! Someone else commented this too. It’s lowkey relieving to hear because some of the things I read on that post were troubling.
      This is exactly why I said I hope whoever is looking to adopt this method buys and reads the book cover to cover because many people will simply look it up online to save money/time and start. Many people have.
      I pinned the comment with the actual steps from the book so whoever watches this video sees it.
      The sad thing is naturally curly is one of the biggest natural/curly hair blogs. Which was why I said I’m weary that someone would find that and read it and run with it.
      Nonetheless, as I responded to the pinned comment with the actual rules, while they do differ from the ones on the naturally curly post, there are still a few things that would simply not work for me - and I have majority 4a hair too.
      The important thing is always to pay attention and modify as necessary for your own hair.
      💓🙏🏽

  • @renuaikiebe2221
    @renuaikiebe2221 4 роки тому +18

    She SAID "let me not finish my sentence" 😂😂😂😂 Fops pleaseeee 😂💜

  • @auchatnoir
    @auchatnoir 3 роки тому +1

    I totally agree with you about combs and brushes. My fine hair strands are tiny and do not agree with finger detangling. More trouble than it's worth. It encourages mats, frizz, single strand knots and royally f's with my curl pattern.

  • @harleyostrom6986
    @harleyostrom6986 3 роки тому +1

    To be honest the curly girl method made hair care more stressful and less beneficial for wavy hair. My hair was dry, frizzy and oily. Using more techniques from natural, asian, and native american hair care methods seemed to nourish my hair more so than a lot of recommendations I've been seeing so far.

  • @sarahdawson975
    @sarahdawson975 3 роки тому +12

    "It's a free roaming hazard" 🤣🤣🤣 Listen them wild shed hairs be plotting!

    • @marleyhill34
      @marleyhill34 3 роки тому +1

      I have too many of those hazards. high density but ultra-fine hair. smh.

  • @hardenzielig
    @hardenzielig 3 роки тому +2

    The curly girl method isn't all that for wavy/curly hair as well... it depends a LOT on THE STATE OF THE HAIR ...I have fine hair, 2c-3a...it's colour treated and high porosity. I tried the curly girl method, and everyone in those 'community's' said 'to hold on... have patience... it's transmission-fase'. It's not. I've read tons of information, watched video's, and I just want to say that CGM might work for some hairtypes... ... but for finer high porosity hair it's definately a no-go: hair looses it's body, it gets more limp, droopy, overmoisturized etc. I'm glad that ' the other side is shown' more often, while there's no 'one size fits all' programm for hair. Thanks for bringing this up clearly.

    • @marleyhill34
      @marleyhill34 3 роки тому

      I have ultra-fine and high porosity hair but because it is Type 4c super tight pen-spring curl pattern nothing weighs it down except a ton of mousse, gel, Got2be glue and hair spray, and a tight headscarf overnight or a few hours. It just loves to spring upwards and fly away. Curly girl method also doesn't allow for shrinkage so that's why a lot of naturals say wash-and-go's do not work on nappy hair aka type 4.

  • @archaurore3323
    @archaurore3323 3 місяці тому

    I really liked this video and I know I am a bit late to the game, but it's still relevant!
    I have been looking at different ways to handle my unruly wavy hair and fell on CGM and on this video. One thing I dislike about CGM is that it sort of has this 'holier than thou' aura since it purports to get you healthy hair with usually "green", "clean", low poo products that are sulfate-free and silicone-free! The no poo movement is sort of the same. The message is always sulfates bad, toxic, evyl, polluting!
    I tried low poo before it was a thing and it gave me a bad scalp condition. I tried CGM's mechanical suggestions (finger detangling, squish to condish, that kind of stuff) and I ended up pulling out more hair than I ever have while in the shower. Once out of the shower, I looked like a frizz ball, which takes some doing because my hair usually lies flat on my scalp and coils or waves anywhere from above the ear to just past my neck.
    That was the only thing I was interested in out of the whole CGM. Co-washing is a terrible idea if you have an oily scalp like me, low poo is terrible for the same reasons (and even worse if you have hard water).
    Honestly, in my view the best message they send out is to adapt to your curls, waves, coils, and try to find what works out best for them and not to straighten them away as soon as they appear. This is a good lesson for me because my mother and grandmother both had "frizzy hair" and thus forced straight hair onto me to "fit in" to what they believed was socially acceptable.

  • @poshniall
    @poshniall 3 роки тому

    i follow a modified version of the cgm and when i first started it, it completely brought my curls to life! then i started using protein in every one of my products and doing protein treatments every wash, and i became scared of shampooing my hair and drying it out. my hair broke off in clumps, and my scalp was flakey and itchy to the point of burning. for a good 5 months it itched constantly. now i use protein sparingly and shampoo with salicylic acid and citric acid religiously. ive finally gotten to the point where i can detangle wet because my hair isn’t like damn velcro anymore! i can’t wait for my hair to all grow back. i feel like i finally understand my hair. your channel is awesome ❤️

  • @Jansheff2010
    @Jansheff2010 3 роки тому

    Chil when I saw the cover of the book I knew it wasn't for me, if I don't see people who look like me it's a no go zone. Your hair is soo pretty, especially like that

  • @Mywhimsicallife
    @Mywhimsicallife 3 роки тому +2

    I have straight hair, yet this is the 7th video in a row Im watching from your channel.

  • @DeliciaTrini
    @DeliciaTrini 4 роки тому +2

    I have 4c relaxed hair, and some of the strategies of the CGM are pretty good! The only things I will take from it is the use of wide combs, deep conditioning, adding oils and aloe gel to conditioners, and leave ins. The rest didn't work for me. I feel the best thing I learned is to get to know the ingredients even those difficult chemical words. Your channel help me get into this. These chemicals are not damaging to the hair, they help the hair thrive. Another thing I learned from your channel was the importance of using the shampoo and MATCHING conditioner as their chemical composition are made to work together. Sulfates (for a healthy scalp) and silicones (for slip) are your friends. Before I attempted CGM, Pantene ProV was what I used every week, and my hair would grow to brastrap. Then I went to CGM, and well..... I'm going back to using Pantene ProV. I wish I knew before (CGM) what I know today. I guess we have to use our own discretion.

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +1

      This, EXACTLY! It has some great tips/principles. But when you're giving specific step by step instructions as a blanket statement for hair solely based on curl pattern (ignoring porosity, coarseness etc.)...that in itself is dicey.

    • @DeliciaTrini
      @DeliciaTrini 4 роки тому

      @@AfopeAtoyebi agreed!💕

  • @teknosbeka
    @teknosbeka 2 роки тому

    I think the curly girl method is originally ment for people who grew up thinking they have straight hair or "just frizzy" hair, and who have no idea how to take care of curly hair/don't know anyone who does.
    I am one of these people. I don't follow the whole thing, but I kept some things that made sense to me and it was a good starting point.

  • @89krx
    @89krx 3 роки тому +19

    Me: I like sulfates in my shampoo. 😬

    • @kayenjee
      @kayenjee 3 роки тому +5

      We should start a support group 🤷🏽‍♀️

    • @Nutellix
      @Nutellix 3 роки тому +1

      Same lol, Im a Dove junkie, they don't have sulfate free shampoos

    • @iamqueenkk
      @iamqueenkk 3 роки тому

      I react to so many innocuous everyday ingredients like parabens and sulfates. I have to buy my skincare from Korea since they use different preservatives as a standard there. I also have always wanted curls. I’m a month in to CGM (modified) and enjoying it. Mainly it’s a chance to take care of myself and see what sort of results I can get.

  • @MissThickThighs
    @MissThickThighs 4 роки тому +2

    I never knew exactly what the cgm was. Once I found ou you can't shampoo I was like girl no! And also, I'm not following a regimen for my coils that was created a white woman. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Love all your content!!!!

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +1

      GIRL! I don't even have an issue with her ethnicity, like I said if you want to market a product or advice to a certain hair type, you either need personal and/or professional experience with that hair type or to consult thoroughly (at every stage) with someone who does. When I was reading through the steps, I was so confused because it didn't sound like it would have passed quality control if a tightly coily haired person was involved in the research process.

  • @boutux
    @boutux 3 роки тому +1

    I tried it when I first went natural 6 years ago and with short 4A/B/C hair I was able to follow most of the rules. I eventually dropped it to try the maximum hydration method which I feel helped me retain moisture and get curl definition a lot better. It just helped me understand my hair and how it responds to products and which techniques work and don't work. After a few months of MHM I modified considerably and continue change my regimen to as my hair grows longer. I shampoo weekly and alternate between moisture and mild protein deep conditioners. I detangle with a tangler teaser when rinsing out the deep conditioner (never going back to finger detangling). I stay away from silicones unless blowing out my hair. And I style with either twists or a wash & go. Regardless of the regimen I used over the years I have never found my hair difficult to manage. I've learned to listen to my hair and give it what it needs when it needs it.

  • @patriciadesouzapimenta5127
    @patriciadesouzapimenta5127 3 роки тому +1

    I am happy to say the Curly Girl Method doesn't even exist in my country (brazil) .. honestly.. i`m just scared. washing hair every 10 days?? what about yeast growth and dermatitis? and then NOT using SHAMPOO? WHAT?? like... WHAT?? and not using a hair brush??? its gonna take hours.. and a lot of fatigue on my hands and arms..! Oh my God.. they actually want us to cleanse with conditioner and then not rinse it all the way??? Oh my god.. I am just shocked. not to mention the sulfates and alcohol-based products or even fragrance (??).. jesus...

  • @Iwasonceanonionwithnolayers
    @Iwasonceanonionwithnolayers 3 роки тому +1

    I wasn't expecting much...I still feel neglected. Thank goodness for 4c only.

  • @L12094
    @L12094 3 роки тому +10

    I felt your pain when you saw Lorraine's picture 😂, but I am also triggered because my name is Lorraine too lol.

  • @WafflesChowder
    @WafflesChowder 3 роки тому

    I don’t follow the CGM. I just took some stuff from the “instructions” and then did what I chose to do lol
    -no sulfates, silicones, waxes (sulfate fee shampoos, I am not washing with conditioner)
    -deep condition once a week
    -lost of scrunching
    -washing once every 3-5days
    BUT I use a sulfate shampoo once a month to remove any and all build up then deep condition afterward. I use a brush to spread my products through my hair and clumping my curls after finger detangling.
    I’m anywhere from 2b - 3b. Depending on how much effort I want to put into styling. I definitely enjoy watching your videos!!!

  • @sophiekdavis
    @sophiekdavis 4 роки тому +2

    I love this video so refreshing 😍. I do finger detangling but definitely don't do wash and go's, scrunch my hair as Lorraine says 😂 or cowash. It is the worst thing for my hair period. Not doing the curly girl method has helped keep them fairy knots at bay massively👌🏾

  • @laurenneblett986
    @laurenneblett986 3 роки тому +1

    The CG method was a godsend for my sister and I a few years ago. Our mother is white with pin straight hair, our black dad kept his hair so short curls wouldn't even form, we're in a different country from the rest of our black family, we grew up pre internet, and we lived in literally the whitest city in America (google it, it's not what you think). I didn't learn what a leave-in conditioner was until my early 20s. I didn't know what a twist our or wash-and-go or protective styles meant. I just knew (or thought) I had bad, dry, frizzy hair and that was that. I had already chopped off all my hair when I stumbled upon the CG book. My sister cried when she saw the pictures of girls with hair like hers.
    It's been 5 or 6 years since I found that book and while my sister and I (I'm 29 with 3B-3C curls and my sister is 25 with 3C-4A) don't follow the CG method anymore, it was the first time anyone taught us how to take care of our curls and that we didn't have "bad hair".
    Now if only I could find someone in this damn city (still living in the whitest city) who can cut curls properly. 32 inches is too much damn hair lol

    • @kayenjee
      @kayenjee 3 роки тому

      I live in a diverse major metropolitan area (Houston, TX) and I'm still struggling to get a good hair cut 🙄

  • @derrycanewbold2080
    @derrycanewbold2080 4 роки тому +7

    Thanks for addressing this issue.

  • @TheUptownBody
    @TheUptownBody 3 роки тому +1

    This was a very classy & educational read, my sister. I knew YEAAAAARS ago that CGM was not right for me. This seals it 😂

  • @lanaconin5704
    @lanaconin5704 Рік тому

    I don’t even have coily hair, my 3a curls hated the curly girl method when I tried it. It’s not for everyone yet it’s toted as the best thing for anyone with textured hair which doesn’t even make sense

  • @patriciagarcia5301
    @patriciagarcia5301 3 роки тому

    I read this book a few years ago. I have 3a, 3b, 3C Jewish Sephardi hair. My hair can look like the author's, for one hour, until the humidity takes over and the do is done - time for single braid. I wish all the book was applicable, but only parts are. I shampoo and condition once a week and condition once a week. I box braid, or single braid, after wet hair in shower twice a week- with gel and styling crème, air dry, and wear for two days, unwind, and then pony tail or half up and half down for two days. Chelating prepoo to remove minerals sounds like a good idea and I must research this. So does water soluble silicon if it can fight humidity. I am ready to buy a bangs hair piece for humid days. The book part I do not follow is to dry cut to follow the curl pattern. My curls change every styling period. And, no hair dresser I have gone to will do dry cut except for bangs.

  • @bethanyrutta2377
    @bethanyrutta2377 3 роки тому

    I follow a very modified version because I have to cleanse my scalp and I style right side up so I don’t get tangles and wonky curls. I use sulfate free low poo, silicone free conditioner and deep conditioner, leave in conditioner, and gel for my hip length curls. I use a brush and comb to detangle in the shower, but don’t brush dry. I use some oils occasionally like jojoba oil and I use peppermint oil in my shampoo. I do normal styling and then blow dry on a cool setting so my hair isn’t wet and getting damaged as long. I’ve learned a lot over the past 4 years and my hair is finally growing and long. I was stuck at shoulder length and now my curls are hip length when pulled straight. I haven’t had split ends in years since starting and modifying the curly girl method. And I get a trim every year or two. Oh and I shampoo and condition and style twice a week.

  • @KatherineAsuncion
    @KatherineAsuncion 3 роки тому +4

    She must have written this book without black women involved. Maybe someone was like "you need to talk about coily hair" in here somewhere and she probably sat down to speculate on her own.

  • @blkbry-yg4gd
    @blkbry-yg4gd 4 роки тому +3

    Hey Fops🖐🏾! Thanks for discussing this topic, although I was never interested in the CGM I still enjoyed hearing your thoughts about it. I knew this method wasn't for me because I love my shampoo.

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +1

      My pleasure girl! continue to do you 👏🏾

  • @Neosoul_prima
    @Neosoul_prima 3 роки тому +8

    It’s always the “loraineee” for me 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @southerncaterpillar4443
    @southerncaterpillar4443 3 роки тому

    Omg I love your channel! I've always had some issues with the curly hair method precisely because it seems like one size fits all and if there's something that is not like that is curly/coily hair. My hair is incredibly thin, not a lot and super low porosity, however it's a 3b3c but I also have delicate skin. So in theory it should work fine with me, but I live in an area with hard water, as well as other things that would end up making my hair fall and feel odd. I tried this method years ago and eventually realised it's not for me. Some things work, other do not. I love the way you present the info!
    Since I workout daily and sweat a lot I have to at least use water daily to rinse the sweat dust out, and when I do this I try to massage the scalp. I don't have oily hair but doing this sort of helps me spread the natural oils. I wash it once a week with a sulfate free shampoo but that helps with mineral buildup, and deep condition once a week. But! Every day I use some leave in conditioner and a comb to detangle and spread evenly. I don't wear a lot and if I feel this too much I use an old t-shirt for the excess and air dry. If it's humid I may add some oil/gel, but most of the days I do not. I've tried bar shampoos and they work well but not so much solid conditioners, but since I condition my hair daily with the leave in, and weekly with the deep one, I have to be thorough when cleansing. Also if mid week I feel the scalp needs a shampoo I'll just do it. No method knows your hair more than you!

  • @Mishyme-qy4vq
    @Mishyme-qy4vq 4 роки тому +2

    The article that you showed is not the curly girl method. I know that someone else has responded with the correct method. Please make sure that you take this video down because of the misinformation, and update everyone on how the curly girl method is really supposed to be done. As an influencer, it is the responsible thing to do.

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +7

      Hey girl,
      I 100% understand where you are coming from and I appreciate your comment. As you rightly said, a couple other people pointed this out to me already. Someone who has the book was kind enough to type out the actual coily hair instructions exactly as laid out in the book.
      Again, as you said, I thought it was extremely important that people saw this to have the right information, so I immediately made it a point to pin that comment at the top and update the video description to include “PLEASE READ THE PINNED COMMENT” right at the beginning - as well as the title and thumbnail to make it clearer that my commentary pertained to the version as found on naturallycurly.com
      In my response underneath this pinned comment, you will see that even with the steps as laid out in the book, I still maintain some of my concerns, and stated that it is important that whatever method or steps people decide to adopt, they do so prepared to modify it accordingly.
      Like I stressed and encouraged in the video, anybody who wishes to adopt this method should “buy the book and read it cover to cover”. I also acknowledged in the video that many people will simply read that article (as naturally curly is one of the more popular natural hair forums) and proceed - but that people should be wary of doing this.
      Whilst I respect your opinion, I’ve decided to keep the video up (with the appropriate annotations/updates that I have already made). I think if nothing else, it will show people good discussion on the topic, and highlight that they should be wary of adopting the method as naturally curly (or any other forum besides the book itself) have laid it out - as in the article I discussed in the video.
      Much love, and I hope you can appreciate this. 🥰🙏🏽

    • @courtneyderouen
      @courtneyderouen 3 роки тому

      @@AfopeAtoyebi what a beautifully articulated response from a beautiful human inside and out ❤️

  • @Star-dj1kw
    @Star-dj1kw 3 роки тому

    I follow several curly influencers.
    I enjoy watching a variety of beautiful 🤩 curly ladies so I follow black, white, and Latina.
    They ALL use a comb and/brush.
    Only one of my ladies boo-woo’s silicones and I just ignore that part of her chatter.
    What I gained from watching these gals (besides great pleasure 🥰) are wonderful product recommendations. I am such a product junkie. I have learned helpful techniques. I used to be SO LAZY. I never deep conditioned my hair. I wouldn’t section my hair when I applied my styling products. I didn’t know that layering styling products could help with definition.
    My Great 2020 lesson: a hard hold gel cast can be scrunched out later, so I don’t have frizz!! 🤣🤣

  • @kiiikks
    @kiiikks 3 роки тому +5

    When you googled Lorraine it took me out coz I knew it was gonna be something funny 😄

  • @UsonePrecious
    @UsonePrecious 4 роки тому +1

    The curly curl method doesn't sound like it's for me. I gotta wash my hair with shampoo and I need my detangling brushes. They are spot on about not using non water soluble silicones. You'd have to use shampoo less often if you don't.

  • @BranJo23199
    @BranJo23199 3 роки тому +1

    Curl girl method is place to start learning how to better take care of your hair . I personally dont completely follow it step by step. This are her recommendations you can try them or alter them to fit you needs. I and you know your own hair then someone else telling how to take care of it .

    • @BranJo23199
      @BranJo23199 3 роки тому

      Plus everyone need to clarify shampoo every once month because healthy hair start at the scalp. No, i dont just co wash my hair .

  • @randomchik62
    @randomchik62 3 роки тому +1

    Wow so after watching this video, I realize that I also do not follow the curly girl method. For anyone who may need tips or help, I have what I believe to be a combination of type 4a and maybe a touch of 4b. My hair is medium density and normal to high porosity with bleached ends if you can tell by my profile picture. I don't think I use shampoo with silicone cause I use the main brands like Carol's Daughter and some black owned brands and I feel like they don't use silicone. My wash days for the most part are weekly unless I get lazy. I alternate between a cowash day and a shampoo day. Because my hair has always been high porosity even before the bleach, I use protein rich products biweekly as well. EVERY SINGLE WASH DAY I deep condition, regular condition and use a leave in. PERIODT. also if I'm coming from a wash and go, sometimes I use my aussi moist conditioner as a pre poo/detangler because it's cheap so you can use a lot of it and it's effective. For wash and go's I use a leave-in, a moisturizer ( my favorite is frobutter) and I typically use the gels from mane choice because they make my hair feel moistized. My favorites are the tropical moringa braid out glaze and the do it fro the culture buttery gel. I do subscribe to wide tooth combs and my Denman brush bit I recently bought the EZ drtangler so TBD on that one. My main style of choice for the winter is a twist out to keep my ends protected for the most part. The twists are usually like medium sized. Hope this helps someone!

  • @knitmaniac6368
    @knitmaniac6368 4 роки тому +4

    I have 3C, 4A and 4B fine hair (with low density). Maybe some 4C hidden in the mix. The 4s are concentrated on my crown and the 3S on my temple and my nape. I started following the CGM in 2014. I bought the book and a denman brush from Amazon. I thoroughly read the book and watch the cd included in it. I did not follow all the rules to a T: I used Aussie conditioner and the brush. I was doing my hair everyday during the summer and once/twice a week during winter. I even went to a Devachan salon in NY twice (2017 and 2018) but I never got the dry cut (long story). I bought the no poo shampoo at the salon. I still have some left, I do not care about it.
    Now, my hair curls right away with some water because of that curl training. If I scrunch/plop the coily part of my hair, it turns into corkscrews. People have stop me in the street asking me how I curl my hair like that.
    During the quarantine, I mixed the CGM with the Dickey method. I have actually pin point a hair regimen that works every time and is cheap (drugstore brands). It includes a clarifyng shampoo (once a week) that is very gentle and a silicony conditioner (TRESemmé).
    I have learn some much about my hair: my 4s are the ones controlling the curl and the shape of my hairsyle. The 4s do not grow very fast, the 3s grow like weed. Every year I have to cut the nape so I do not end up with a mullet!
    It is a good method if you are willing to customize it to your hair needs and not follow it like a dogma. It has taken me 6 years but I have finally learn to love my hair. (sorry for the long post)

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +1

      This is DEDICATION! I love that you used it as a guideline/template to help you figure out what works best for your hair. This approach is the healthiest/wisest (in my opinion). It's amazing that you stuck with it and now it's paying off. Not many people would be that patient 😭👌🏾

    • @Muslimah33
      @Muslimah33 3 роки тому +2

      A long post but I’d like to know the details of your routine.

  • @xxxmelissatacionxxx
    @xxxmelissatacionxxx 3 роки тому

    Hellooo. This comment is kinda late but from someone who owns the book, it's very clear from the marketing and pictures in the book that its really for people with type 2 and 3 hair (or more specifically 2a/2b-3c ish) so im not surprised their advice doesnt really make sense.
    Also they dont mention anything in the book to do with porosity, density etc. Its an extremely simple beginners book.

  • @EmmaxoOCE
    @EmmaxoOCE 3 роки тому

    I started taking care of my curly hair after not straightening it for around a year so I had a head start. When I started watching curly hair youtube the cgm was mentioned and I don’t follow it because thankfully I watched you tubers who talked about the pros and cons. I use sulfate shampoo sometimes because it’s just a necessity, however I have a cgm approved shampoo as well. And I use the matching cgm conditioner, with the matching leave in that has a bit of protein. I also might be getting a salt scrub for my own scalp issues that has sulfates, but will use it with a mask. Just showing that when you consider porosity, hair type (2,3,4), strand thickness, hair density, hair needs, past damage, and scalp needs your routine will be unique and using knowledgeable sources and THEN coming to your own conclusion on what you need to do is best

  • @thotsannprayers
    @thotsannprayers 4 роки тому +5

    I just discovered your channel and I really love your videos, they are so informative and I really get a great understanding of the topics, you are a blessing!!

  • @linziesantana4748
    @linziesantana4748 3 роки тому +1

    I have type 3 hair and even I’m giving Lorraine the side eye 🤣 finger detangling is a no for me I tried and I’m not here for it so I cannot imagine her recommending this for coilies

  • @novaj9812
    @novaj9812 3 роки тому +1

    Okay so I have “ curly” hair that’s 3b with some 3c in the middle and the CG method for the most part did not work for me, yea it works for the LOOK of your hair but not the health or length. It’s basically all just a wash n go tutorial ( at best ). The best thing I ever did for my hair was wash it every 7-10 days with an actual shampoo ( still sulfate free tho, recommend mielle rosemary mint shampoo) , deep condition ( in place of regular conditioning ) and wear my hair stretched. My preferred methods are a roller set or I wear 6 cornrows as a style then wear the braid out the remaining of the 10 days. Once a month I use an old fashion mayo, egg, avocado oil hair mask and my hair is sprouting out of my head rn and I’ve been able to minimize my shedding by a ton. I still use a brush in the shower btw I just use it in sections and kinda lightly finger detangle FIRST If my hairs super knotted

    • @NataNyan95
      @NataNyan95 3 роки тому

      Ohh I'm gonna use mielle Rosemary shampoo for chelating, I live in hard water.

  • @filmsbynix
    @filmsbynix Рік тому

    My first failed transition with type 3 hair using the cgm caused so much build up. I transitioned the second time not using it and my scalp is actually healthier than when I had straight hair

  • @MsLinoi
    @MsLinoi 3 роки тому

    As a wavy girl with low porosity, the curlygirl method also doesn't work for me :D my scalp just produces too much sebum and because of my loose texture it travels down my hair really fast. So just cowashing it would be a disaster for me. She used to say that lowpoos are fine for wavys, but eversince she launched her new line she's been even more strict and she's been attacking people for saying that they're modified cg.
    Well I just feel like this one size fits all approach just doesn't make sense as we all have such different hair, 2a and 4c hair, low and high porosity, fine and coarse hair. These are all so different and I believe that doing the exact same thing to them can actually do more harm than good.

  • @waymilky442
    @waymilky442 Рік тому

    If you condition every time and use leave-in conditioner you don't need deep conditioner.

  • @Fortheloveofshola
    @Fortheloveofshola 3 роки тому +1

    PLEASE DO THE MAX HYDRATION METHOD!!!

  • @iamqueenkk
    @iamqueenkk 3 роки тому

    I have wavy-curly medium porosity hair and about to bleach it again in ballyage so I’m preparing for high porosity. I’m not being too tough on myself trying to follow the strictest rules and got lucky with a more relaxed and very inclusive Facebook group. Though Massey has been adding new rules and coincidentally is now selling products.
    I have a sensitive scalp and a hella crazy number of allergies, so I’ve been trying to use more simple products - I’ve only been doing CG for a month but have been using less harsh products for about two years and having good success.
    My process is:
    Sulfate free shampoo,
    CGM approved conditioner (comb out curls and knots),
    then while my hair is sodden and wet add a leave in conditioner, curl cream and gel. Through ‘prayer hands’ to apply, then scrunch up to curl.
    Then I plop it up in a microfibre towel, then diffuse or air dry.
    Lastly when hair is completely dry I ‘scrunch out the crunch’ from the gel. Sleep in a silk bonnet or on a silk pillowcase with your hair in a pineapple to maintain curls. Done!

  • @manekakapoor1612
    @manekakapoor1612 3 роки тому

    I've been washing my hair with Dr Bronner's since I was six years old. It has no sulfates. I'm Anglo-Indian with coarse curly dry hair. I use amla oil in my hair. I wash my hair usually one a week. I had had down to the top of my thighs until I was 24. I've had it halfway down my back to waist length ever since.
    Right now at 59, it's halfway down my back, white with no grey and I dye it various shades of purple. Right now it's lavender.
    I use traditional Indian hair methods and it keeps my hair in good shape.

  • @cmamasita90
    @cmamasita90 3 роки тому +6

    I’m hollerin!!!! Lol.... Lorrainnnnneeeee😂

  • @kendrac8885
    @kendrac8885 4 роки тому +1

    This is exactly what happened to me on the curly girl method and I had problems my first couple of years of going natural!

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому

      I'm just having a hard time trying to figure out how it can work for super curly/coily hair. Some of those instructions were :/

    • @kendrac8885
      @kendrac8885 4 роки тому

      Afope Atoyebi exactly lol it don’t work 🤣 at least not for anybody I’ve seen so far with curly/coily hair!

  • @debrasmith5325
    @debrasmith5325 3 роки тому +2

    GURRRRLLLLL you are killing this sacred Cow
    There’s no WAY I would do this lol

  • @TracyD2
    @TracyD2 4 роки тому +2

    African hair sent me. And subscribed

  • @megaanny1
    @megaanny1 3 роки тому +1

    I have wavy hair and do the cgm. I have changed it a bit, because wavy hair gets easier weighed down than curlier types. I use a sulfate free shampoo instead of a cowash and I couldn't say goodbye to my brush. Every once in a while my hair starts to feel heavy and goopy, that's when I wash with an "normal" sufate shampoo and do a diluted (!) apple cider vinegar rinse.
    On wash days (this winter) I use
    dr organic 2 in 1 hemp oil shampoo
    Novex black deepconditioner
    Blueberry bliss leave in
    Syoss keratin mousse
    And sometimes a drop of oil if I feel like it.

  • @Mateyena
    @Mateyena 4 роки тому +3

    I am always looking forward to your videos, another great one.

  • @fashionbeautyaditute844
    @fashionbeautyaditute844 2 роки тому

    I haven't use harsh sulfates or silicones for around 5 years and my hair and scalp had never been better I cleanse my hair around once every 10 days that is when I start to feel like I am getting somewhat little greasy scalp. My hair is long 3B/C almost to my bum in the Curly state. Also I have dyed my hair 1 year ago for the first time and my hair is healthy.

  • @azalea.9
    @azalea.9 3 роки тому

    As someone who read the curly girl book
    I can definitely say this is not the CG !
    The naturally curly website have. Nothing with Lorraine Massey
    ps: the CG helped me a lot to understand my hair did I fully followed it NO!
    I never cowashed my hair I use a Combe a detangling brush and a styling brush I use a sulfate shampoo once a month my hair is type 3b/3a

  • @sarahhavillamelooliveira5825
    @sarahhavillamelooliveira5825 3 роки тому +1

    Well... I'm 3a (Guess... My hair is unclear texture, very fine, it's almost straight from the scalp, then two inches or so of a wavy and after that is very well curly, like big coils)

  • @longlostcowgirl2010
    @longlostcowgirl2010 2 роки тому

    Fopes, my hair is Type 1 straight but I still love your channel!

  • @Cook_with_mE1907
    @Cook_with_mE1907 4 роки тому +2

    I knew nothing about this until this year it ain't for me. I would never and will never try this I do what works for me🎯

    • @AfopeAtoyebi
      @AfopeAtoyebi  4 роки тому +1

      Know what works for you and maintain regardless of what may be working for other people.. The ultimate key. 👏🏾👌🏾

    • @Cook_with_mE1907
      @Cook_with_mE1907 4 роки тому

      @@AfopeAtoyebi absolutely

  • @sabrinarobinson1154
    @sabrinarobinson1154 3 роки тому +2

    Can I say I was dying laughing thru out this whole video. Your reactions were priceless and I was right with you. 🤣
    One of my fave videos by far.

  • @paulameninato8948
    @paulameninato8948 3 роки тому

    I used the curly girl method and it wrecked my hair. I mainly just used Wen and have 2c hair. I thought that cowashing was the best thing for my hair so I didn't use shampoo for months. Then I studied abroad in Rome, where they have hard water. My hair texture went from being nice and soft to feeling like hay despite never heat styling it. I went to a hairdresser and they said my hair's porosity was so high that I needed to grow it all out and cut it off. At the time, my goal was to grow my hair out and I wasn't able to retain any length for years.
    Thankfully, with a lot of hair masks and time, I've been able to grow out my hair down to my hips. I started in 2014 with chin-length hair. I had to re-transition in 2016, when I had bra-strap length hair. It's crazy how much quicker I would have achieved hip length hair if I hadn't used wen or CGM.

  • @Snowlily01
    @Snowlily01 7 місяців тому

    I’m Indian with extremely high porosity hair from years of damage and harsh shampoos. Recently tried gels and they worked amazingly in summers. But now that it’s winter, I’m having a hard time with dry hair yet again. Could you share some home gel or cream recipes for winters? I wonder when you’ll upload next