I Beat Malenia The Way Sekiro Gods Intended (New DLC Deflect)
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- Опубліковано 20 чер 2024
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YES I KNOW I said I wouldn't
but I couldn't resist.
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That's fine you couldn't resist mate
there have been so many good messages so far in the DLC
but one of my favorites has been "behold a lover" in front of Milady. diabolical hahaha
My favorite was someone using the miquella's ring gesture near a miquella's cross saying "seek holy but hole"
Now THAT'S diabolical xD
In front of the person who sells poisons, there was a msg saying "lovable sort ahead, therefore seek head"
@@TheArtDev lmaoo I saw the exact same one
I saw a message outside the final boss arena that just read
"I want to go home....
and edge"
Found one behind St Trina
“Rump?
Therefore use mushroom”
The biggest fumble with this mechanic imo is that this effect comes from Physic Flask and not a Talisman
Agreed
Talisman would be so busted
Should be base behaviour as weapon equivalent to parry.
Definitely, but let's say that it could stay as a physic, but the effect should end with death, no with a timer, like the dragon forms
I like this compromise the most. It really rewards skillful play, but you have to be willing to sacrifice (arguably) more useful physick buffs.@@warcoder
Miyazaki literally settled the Sekiro vs Malenia debate with this.
Malenia really is 0 - 2
First Radahan and now Sekiro
Everyone was like: Deflect wouldn’t work on her
Miyazaki was like: Like hell it wouldn’t!
There shouldn't be a debate in the first place lol. Melania in Sekiro would be way less difficult than something like Isshin or Owl (father).
This is why Sekiro is easy. Just parry everything.
@@ninetailedara3802This is why Elden Ring is easy. Just dodge everything
now we need to add replayable bosses and then we have a true demon’s dark 1,2,3 bloodkiro
Have to start a new playthrough
yep
Ascetics missing because From threw the baby out with the bath water due to everyone shitting on ds2 is why I hate the souls community at large. I get it, ds2 did some questionable things... but ffs it did a LOT right that just doesnt exist in later games. (I do find it funny everyone is running around saying "you gotta level vigor to 60!" when the complaint in ds2 was having to level adaptability... I get its kind of apples to oranges, but adp had a much lower soft cap so in hindsight its hilarious to see people defending 60 vigor)
I was really hoping the Stakes of Marika would be a way to do something Ascetic like, but nope. Just a "close to boss" respawn point.
big sigh
@@Mennenth ds2 is my favourite entry in the souls series personally
@@skullnumb1532 its my favorite of the souls trilogy as well.
Though as far as the souls genre goes, I do think Elden Ring is the best its ever been (though tbf I dont really engage in the online functions so much). I just wish less bosses were re-used and ascetics (or an equivalent to refight bosses) existed.
@@Mennenth would you really call ds2 great now just because of a single feature? as good as it is the game just does too many wrongs to call a right a redemption arc. for it to even need one in the first place is a problem.
Guys if you don't know, you can get the tear by defeating the big burning guy when you enter the DLC.
The giant one? But there are many right? Do i have to kill that specific one from the begining or any of them will drop it?
@@manuvillasanta6252 the one from the beginning drops this one the others also drops some cool stuff
bet.
@@endrifusha605 thank you!
Pro tip: Hit it until it dies.
This cracked tear along with her rune is an insane combo. Turns the game into Soulsbournekiro
Lies of P
That’s just lies of p mechanics 😂
I literally have no idea what you are saying with blood kiro or whatever you are typing lmao 😂
Elden ring is still fun, but like the others here have been mentioned, lies of p already did that whatever you say in the best way possible and it leaves almost all the other games from from software in the dust, with only ones above it being bloodborne and dark souls.
@@eliasfigarzon9813and sekiro. The best game they’ve ever put out
You can use it with the new martial arts weapon, its pretty fun.
My shamshir got hard after using that tear
Mine too.
I spilled albinauric blood all over my screen.
how is he doing this?
@@CAPRISUNBLAZE new tear for physic
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Holy shit they just gave us sekiro deflect straight up, now to see if it works with dragonbolt blessing
Also, was 0:59 mistimed or is that attack not deflectable without chip damage?
@@Zayd-bg1ptfrom what I understand, EVERYTHING is deflectable without chip damage (unless it's a magic attack, then it does some negligible amount of chip damage anyway) as you see, even waterfowl is FULLY DEFLECTABLE, which I never imagined would happen
I just mistimed the deflect there lmao
@@clankymocha by everything, do you mean I can deflect aoes and elemental attacks as well? Because if so then placidusax is about to become the coolest thing in this whole game
@@Zayd-bg1pt i think he meant everything physical
Nope, I meant everything everythin 💀💀💀
Unless it's an attack that very specifically goes through shields like Malenia's phantom attack thingy
Otherwise, anything that can be blocked can also be deflected.
Someone needs to add the deflect sound as a mod.
I think the deflect sound here is pretty cool as is(this is hard to see on video) I think it's more fitting
As far as I'm concerned, this should have been an amulet.
1000% agree
This is the most fun I ever had with the game but it's always restricted to 3 minutes at a time
Like, at least make it last longer >:(
It's too strong, Malenia is now an easy mode boss. 3 minutes is fine!
@@clankymocha Isn't it 5 mins now?
@@c0UldThIsbEaNotHerChANCe you're right, I always felt it was longer than 3 minutes, turns out it is
@@clankymocha Too OP honestly. They should increase the guard consumption.
On one hand, it's still kinda bs that she heals even if you perfectly deflect her hits. On the other hand however, the bonus damage you can get especially with quicker weapons like katanas and the new light greatsword after deflects kinda makes up for it, so I suppose it's not too bad.
Honestly, her regen was barely noticeable, and standard blocking probably gives her less health than you getting stabbed anyways. As a person who burns themselves out playing open world games, I can’t get here to confirm the theory. As someone who beat sekiro twice, well done wolf… armor ;-)
Yeah the healing is sad. On NG+7, this tear is useless against her as she heals way more HP than you can take from her, even with constant attacks.
@@RashFeuer26 I’m sorry, +7!?! The hell do you need this for then? You’ve already cracked the game wide open if you’ve pulled that off, so it shouldn’t be allowed to bother you milord.
@@weirdalexander8193 the healing is the same regardless if it's blocked or a hit. but it didn't matter because the damage he was doing was absurd already. if he just rolled instead of healing her, the fight would have ended in a fraction of the time.
@@petercottantail7850 well, ok then.
i love how it says the game you're playing is sekiro
Lol! I guess you can't blame them.
@@LordNNerothey chose that. When you upload a video you choose the game. It's not automatic
@@KougeruIt is automatic, unless you specifically go and change it. So we don't know if it was intentional or if youtube is just being funny.
Nice ! It is exactly what i needed to see before testing
Very clean! Haven't properly tried yet! Still mentally recovering from the final boss lol
You already went there ? 😭 I only beat rellana 😂😂
@@clankymocha I sunk in a lot of hours this weekend lol
@@SaxSlaveGael gg, I've just been so overwhelmed by this whole thing, I barely progressed at all xD
Rellana was a real bitch to fight lol, had this one summon who had the spiked ball fists and helped me a ton
@@clankymochatake your time and enjoy!
Ridiculous! THE best new Malenia video. Thanks! Such a pleasure to watch.
Okay i was gonna progress a bit further in main game but now that i know this exists I'm comin for mogh's ass later today.
You're in luck because this is literally one of the first items you can get
@@clankymocha oh hell yes. Ty for the info
@@kaden-sd6vbhave fun getting it 🙃
@@clankymochaFunny you speak as tho it's some regular NPC. Oh, the welcome he will receive.
@@enemytruck9798🤭 he will get it first try
There will 100% be a mod that make this last forerever as soon as you drink it, maybe with added parry sfx too
Omg some sparks on this would be SWEEEEEEEEET
I already made a mod for that. I first made the flask last indefinitely, but that was annoying cause you had to drink it again after death or fast travel, so I have now made it linked to the Two Handed Sword talisman from the DLC. I can probably also add spark vfx from parry now that you mention it. I haven't published this yet but maybe I will now. I recently made a mod for changing the model of Milady. With that remodel, having Oathseeker knight's armor and deflecting, elden Ring has become my dream souls game.
@@radeni that's awesome! Sadly I'm on ps5
@@radeni Can you post a link when you do on Nexus?
@@carlovergts02 sure
Best vid I’ve seen using the deflection you made isshin proud 🤝🏼
This pleases me greatly!
Great job! Btw how many right click did you press at 0:33? Do we need to spam right click several time or just hold right click will do the work? Also do you think deflect will work against dancing lion?
I did spam, I have no idea whether you do need to spam or not 💀
Deflects work against any blockable attack, but the dancing lion has a few attacks that will knock you over
bro i actually got baffled when i saw the first time reading its description at first i thought it was just a shield user thing but after i realised you have guard counters IT BLEW MY MIND
That's clean, I really like the counter attack's animation
One of my favorite things from the DLC. As an added bonus any weapon can now pretty much double as a shield with the right timing, and attacks that would otherwise stance break you instead cause you to backroll instead of staggering. Super fun to play around with
Using Milady, I see. A man of culture ^^
Man watching this was soo satisfying , actually calmed my headace lol
I was very happy that your Sekiro gameplay style came to a weapon
Damn that absolutely trivialised her fight 😳 I am currently on holiday dying to play 😢 Bad timing.
Dude this is incredible gameplay - what weapon are you using and what is your stamina stat? Are you using anything for stamina recovery because I am trying to play like this and my stamina depletes SO QUICKLY. I can’t guard counter and then continue deflecting because I’ll be out of stamina…
I show stats at the end
Thanks, I’m fighting the death knight, and perfect deflected just tank my stamina, I’m really trying to make this build work but it’s a struggle. Does the type of sword determine how much stamina hit you take? I’m using rivers of blood.
@@clankymochaget the two headed sta,ina charm my dude
That block on the waterfowl startup was beautiful
The weapon choice was really good for this too, the Light Greatsword is a double-strike on a guard counter and it has a good thrust attack for counter-damage.
I'm not gonna sugar coat it.
*Parries the shit out of king minos*
Meh, easier than Malenia
Should have been a talisman
💯
I have tear in my eyes. Well done.
As soon as I figured out how fast you could actually deflect with this tear, I absolutely slaughtered the final boss. Shit is so powerful
I went from suffering and attempting to parry and poke the final boss to death with a dex weapon, only to slaughter him in like 6 tries when I respecced to pure strenght and used the heardtear to both prevent the bullshit damage and deliver guard counters.
From the original promo footage, it looked liked this was going to be the style of the game. It looked like Elden Ring was going to be Sekiro, but Dark Souls at first. Nice to see they added it in, eventually.
She shouldn't be able to regen off perfect blocks, and this mechanic should've been in the game already or made into a talisman.
that would be too strong, she wasn't balanced around this kind of deflect to begin with
@@Ghorda9 you could already do this in the game, you just don't take chip dmg now
the amount of posture and health damage you'd deal with the guard counter greatly overwhelms her healing. i actually don't mind this bullshit mechanic for once lmfao
@@Ghorda9She wasn’t very balanced in the first place. Waterfowl dance is proof of that.
Besides, there are so methods in the game players can use to trivialize her: spirit summons, co-op, blood loss, strength weapons, spells, incantations. Also, how is this that much different from parrying as an option? Both require skill.
From the looks of it, you can easily outpace her healing anyways.
Malenia when she fights an actual swordmaster:
Give her a break, she's blind and crippled, not to mention she literally just woke up. It's understandable she'd underperform a little.
@@urtoryu_dy_althraidn FRAUD 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
+demigod, +empirean, +blessed by the rot god(orsomerting), +great rune...
she just woke up from a coma, aside from dying because of the rot, being blind and crippled, she just came back from a battlefield in which she literally died and got reborn. and she's still the hardest boss in the base game.
@@thephoenix4093 nah...
b1tch has got hax
she is not strong at all, the sword master can show u
The perfect parry sound is music to my ears.
Awesome video! Thanks for showcasing this godlike addition to Elden Ring. Question, when you deflect the Swallow attack are you deflecting the first hit then holding block? Or are you deflecting repeatedly to block all the hits?
@@arctother5176 repeatedly to block all hits
if this is a default mechanic, this would really elevate elden ring combat for sure.
Fromsoft can make the mechanic cost fp whenever you succesfully deflect just to balance it to not make it too OP.
But it is what it is, at least now we have an option even if for a relatively short time haha
This is a general design trend I see with fromsoft, they have the coolest ideas but they never go all the way with them
You get a sekiro deflect, but no animations for it and you only get it in the physick
You get gravity magic, but it's slow af, And good luck pulling enemies that aren't super small and squishy as is
You get what might be the coolest status effect,madness, and a cool grab attack spell to go with it, but only get to do it on players
The list goes on and on
@@clankymocha also add Great Runes to that list haha. It's a great concept but it requires you to be embered like in DS3, except in DS3 every time you beat a boss, you're automatically embered, but it's not the case in ER which makes some great runes not useful.
Gravity magic really does suck. I watch Radahn being so cool with gravity magic but when players do that, it's so underwhelming. The katana that has gravity ash of war essentially making that weapon worse than all other katana
I think it's a lot better for an RPG when the skills your character has have to be chosen in some form. Even some full on action games put mechanics like this behind items. It not being the default isn't bad, and them not making deflect animations for a limited dlc added mechanic is just them being sane for once about the amount of content they're doing. Consider that Sekiro has one weapon, while for Elder Ring they'd most likely want to do deflect animations for every weapon type, and two sets for each weapon type as you can one hand or two hand whatever you're using to block.
Crystal tears are not the best way but it makes sense for it to have a time limit in Elden Ring since the game wasn't built with this mechanic in mind from day 1 and it's a powerful late game addition instead.
In Elden Ring 2 or whatever they do next, it would be better as a talisman, a great rune effect, or maybe an inherent quality of specific weapon types (though maybe that one would be too restrictive for most people's preferences). If they introduce a new system to infuse weapons with passive skills (on top of the already existing affinities and ashes or war) then having deflect as one of the options would be a great way to do it imo, as long as the alternatives are similarly game changing.
@@samuel.jpg.1080pif it makes you feel better, the heavy attack of the meteoric or blade is almost a 2nd ash of war. It's the best heavy attack for a katana imo. Deceptive range and its decently fast
I feel like Malenia would have been a pretty easy Sekiro boss
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The main issue with her normally is that you don't really have the tools to deal with her actively, just rolling, which is "fine" but limiting, especially when we run into Waterfowl, which besides being a visual mess, you REALLY don't have the tools to deal with, because of the autotracking and roll catching features it has.
All the deflecting hard tear does is give you a defensive option that actually just works against her.
And the result is she completely falls flat, because genuinely, without waterfowl as a crutch, she kinda can't cook. Take away Waterfowl and she's basically just the Shadow of Yarhnam from bloodborne.
You know. The one with the defective dodge AI that you can force to dodge into the wall endlessly, that has to have two buddies to work.
Man there’s so many words but most have been said, just good work . I barely know whats going on though.
I can't stop watching this
I'm missing Elden Ring Swordsmanship mod so much! It did kinda same thing but also updates blocking animations, movesets of some greatswords and adds perfect timed block for shield to trigger guard boost effect when the attack knocks off your shield. Sadly author abandons this mode.
I do remember that mod, I would have loved if the devs implemented something like that
But I guess it was a bit too much for how many weapon classes there are
The fact she still heals when you perfect block her is kinda bs, ngl
Sure it may take a little longer, but this'll definitely make her a much more satisfying opponent to defeat.
Omg Malenia actually looks fun to fight now!
We have Lies of P at home
I just wish they added an animation for it, but it's probably too much work 💀
They literally could have ported the sound effect + sparks from Sekiro
@@kelvinntukula5478 I think in terms of audio and visual design it's actually perfectly fine for elden ring
It's the lack of a deflect animation that makes it look strange.
@@clankymocha True,
Adding animations for all those categories would have been too big of a job for just a DLC
seeing waterfowl deflected made me feel more joy than seeing the birth of my first son
love how it links sekiro in the description
I still haven't learned how to dodge the first phase of waterfowl and I'm glad I don't have to anymore because of this.
But that regen still, such a goofy feature.
the last boss of the dlc makes malenia look like a tutorial boss lol
God dude that new physick tear is so good
Edit in the red danger symbol from Sekiro right before you dodge attacks and it's perfect!
i never used guard counters in this game until dlc
thrusting shield+deflect tear+guard counters is my new best friend
This is what i use in my flask as soon as someone starts their swift alash spamming and then crush them when they go to drink their blue to refill 😂
Yessss this what a fun game mechanics looks like. They should have added it as ash of war or talisman🤓☝️
This makes me so fucking happy to see
This physik tear makes this fight the best fight in the game now
that's significantly stronger than I thought it was lol
Impressive, very nice
We are one big step closer to becoming actual gods
Somewhere, in an alternate universe…they have this ability as a talisman, not a flask.
Yooo that was so badass
if you squint really hard, the incantation looks like firework prosthetic!
They should make a shield that can deflect grabs that aren’t Giants (wouldn’t mind if it was Giant enemies though too lol).
1:45 bro even used flame vent prosthetic tool
0:30 finally, the defense of waterfowl dance
No raptor of mists ✊
Ah, big fireball, my favorite move from Sekiro shadows die twice.
Yeah its a cool prostetic tool in sekrio
That was brutal 🤯
How does the tear affect the stamina damage you take? Is it halved?
Massively reduced not just halved
I need someone to mod it into an emblem, put on a debuff like take more damage or unsuccessful block ends with more stamina drain, cause it is so fun I hate that it’s only in the potion.
beautiful
Tried doing this too, kinda just gave up because Malenia can still heal if you deflect and I wasn't doing a lot of damage. I tried it with Rellana tho and it was so fun.
Milady is my favourite weapon 😻
how? how, literally how. Ive been following this build for days and I cant even phase her
You know what you have to do now, right?
Fight Inner Isshin, in Elden Ring, with deflecting hardtear just as Miyazaki intended.
Amazingg what buffs did you use to deflect her attacks?
Deflecting hard tear, an item in the dlc
@@clankymocha thank you!
0:33 I expected this!
Fire infusion is crazy considering there is a lot of water.
Malenia has no fire defence at all, water adds 10% resistance
She has 20% resistance to lightning, water removes 10% of that
So yeah, fire is the best infusion against her, lightning comes second to that
@@clankymocha Oh dang. Didn't know that
Are you perfect blocking each hit or just the first one? Because it looks like if you perfect block the first one, all other blocked attacks are blocked without chip damage.
You still have to press L1 for each attack, the animation just doesn't reflect that
@@clankymocha Oh ok That's sick
I wish so badly this was a talisman.
whats the deflect/build explanation? I loved malenia and sekiro, and would love to try this. Ive parry killed her, but I assume this is a special guard counter, and Ive no clue how they work
Use the deflecting hard tear physick... And then go ham lmao
Even with perfect deflect, no damage taken, she still gains HP. If that ain't cheap then nothing is.
i always wanted sekiro mechannics. cant wait for someone to mod this in
This is unmodded bro 😭😭
@@clankymocha i know. but the full mechanic is now built into the game. all you have to do is set the game to make it permanent rather than just in the flask that only lasts a minute or w/e.
@@harrybellingham98 oh fair enough
How did you get flame art on quickstep?
using the red-hot whetblade that can be found in castle redmane
Can you constantly block ? Or does it have to be timed ?
Tined
I respect you
The only problem with doing this is she still regains hp. It'd be nice if there was a line of code that said when the effect of the tear activated that Malenia couldn't regain hp from the hit.
Her regaining hp from you even if you deflect is lore accurate (she's not using your blood to heal, this isn't Bloodborne) , it's part of the fight, not a mistake
That's cool.
Finally I can parry radahn
Just curious, since it says it's a "spontaneous guard", are you pressing L1 (guard) for EVERY hit from the Waterfowl, like you would if it were a Sekiro move, or are you holding guard for the duration of the first flurry of attacks? I know this isn't Sekiro, but it looks like it's just holding the guard and not "deflecting".
I still don't know, In this video I was timing my L1s to every waterfowl hit, but I'm not sure if that is required
I think I did get hit in another run where I didn't time it properly, though, I'm not 100% sure
So is it just blocking or do you have to time the blocks?
You have to time them
This deflect transform elden ring in another game
CLEAN!!!
They did it, they added John sekiro into elden ring
The way malenia still gain health although u perfect deflect is goofy