This is the only video with actual usage footage(that I’ve found on UA-cam so far). Tired of UA-camrs that claim certain Brands of Charging Handles are in their (expert opinion) the best in the market, without any actual visual proof 🤷♂️🤦♂️ I appreciate the time & work that went into making this video content 👍💯
I have the Griffin SNACH and have used the Raptor SD. Using an older AAC can on a 12.5 and 10.5, the Griffin charging handle does a great job at diverting gas. Highly recommend.
Great that you candidly give the pros and cons and state which one is your top pick. this video was very helpful by observing the gas exit from each charging handle.
I have the griffin snach and sico gdch and use their 46m suppressor on rounds large and small. The sico (when it works) is head and shoulders above the snach, it doesnt come close. But the handle of the sico went flying off on the first charge at the range😞, seems like its a common problem. Also the gasket WILL get bunched up at some point and not allow the bcg to go into battery. I actually had to sand my gasket down at the ends so it was like a ramp or wedge effect and there was no more bunching. Use 3k to 5k grit it makes it very smooth. Thats too much imo to do for a $100+ charging handle. The griffon does make you cry somewhat but not that bad. The sico is on my hunting rifles and the griffon is on defense. If you get the sico make sure the pins holding the handles on are flared properly and shave those ends of the gasket.
I own all 3 and also own the PRI gas buster and the GDCH works the best but it is the least durable and dependable by a FAR margin. The rollpins on the GDCH keep falling out and the O-ring does need to get replaced after approx 1k rounds depending on caliber. Lost the right side rollpin and it's latch during a 2 Gun event. I loctited the rollpin and put black duct tape over it on my other GDCH. SiCo has had my first GDCH for over 5 weeks now and is waiting for parts. I would NOT recommend the GDCH at all until the rollpin issue is figured out.
@@jccarp2 Griffin Armament's SNACH actually works really nice (if not the same) as long as if you're not a lefty. The SNACH is what I use for PRS comps in my 6 ARC AR because I have zero confidence in SiCo's offering.
I would like to see the strike industries gas buster charging handle compared to these others. Whst do you think of using a gemtech suppressed bcg in combination with one of these charging handles?
Dig the video and appreciate the info. I have the Radian but haven’t had the opportunity to run my rifle with the suppressor yet. This gave me another option should I not like the performance of the Radian. Thanks
What if you drilled vent holes into the Snach similar to what the Raptor has… and maybe added a then line of silicone to the bottom of the handle? The perfect charging handle????
Adding Permatex to seal any charging handle will always improve gas to the face mitigation. I've made this mod to all of my charging handles. I plan to mod all of my charging handles similar to the SilencerCo charging handle as well using this video as a guide: ua-cam.com/video/F5nRe0RuGLg/v-deo.html. Not sure I would start drilling holes into the actual body of the charging handle that sits inside the receiver. I'm not really convinced that this does a whole lot to be honest, and I have a Radian Raptor SD.
I bought the Griffin Armament after watching this video. I put it in a Gen 3 PA-10 but it doesn't work. Pulls slightly back and then gets stuck. Pulled out the bolt carrier and inspected. Everything looked great inside and out. I have never run into this problem before except on a Sig 716. I really want to make it work but am afraid to start grinding off the hard anodizing for fear of corrosion in the future and the possibility I may not get the results I need. I will try to call them if they post a phone number. If anyone has run into a problem like this feel free to reply. Such a strange situation.
I wish you guys would do a part 2 with the geissele sch, forward controls acf, and gasket-enhanced milspec. There's definitely a market for these for those who switch between suppressed and unsuppressed fairly often
Would like to see this video with some kind of brass catch type system covering the ejection port so as better isolate the gasses exiting the charging handle area. Otherwise very good job showing this.
Everyone says silencerco is unreliable. I have Radian, SNACH, Geissele Airborn, and BCM. I like SNACH the most. I bought more for my other builds. I also have CMC's adjustable BCG.
I tried the Griffin Armament charging handle, but as a left handed shooter, it was terrible. It is only designed for right handed shooters. I have since swapped it out with the Radian and paired it with an adjustable gas block. No more gas to the face.
I have the PRI gas buster and it seems to work well. My concern for the Griffin is that it feels really cheaply made and reminds me of the Chinese made pot metal airsoft versions. Nevertheless, I purchased one for another suppressor build and it seems to work well using my old TAC16 can mounted on my Noveske Afghan.
@@modernwarriorsut They openly admitted their LPVO is made in China. Who is to debunk that their charging handles and anything else is made in China. I admit that it works well on my setup but when I put it side to side against my PRI, it just feels cheap and lightweight.
It was for that reason that we had to give the win to the Snatch as it isnt relying on a part that could easily come off during hard use. If the Gasket comes off, the GDCH is about as bad as a milspec
@@pjshooter6 the fact that silencerco includes a spare gasket, and tells you how to source one indicates that the gasket can either fall out at some point, or it can wear out. by nature, any and all gaskets can and will fail eventually. even those that dont move. case and point: any automotive vehicle has hundreds of gaskets, they all fail eventually, just a matter of time.
@@eitrisenhancementsllc yes but the other one literally blows gas directly into a leftys face. It's all fun and games until you have to transition sides to shoot around a barrier ect. Very poorly though out. Only usable for a target range gun, hunting ect. The fact your overlooking this major fault shows a bias. Probably financially motivated one....
@@pjshooter6 actually, the snach is drilled on both sides, the latch on the left side passes over it so its hard to spot. Ive owned this charging handle and it has its own set of latch issues. So much so that i sold the one i had. Im definitely also not overlooking the faults, just saying that the silencerco has a wear item with their solution, while the snach does not. Only one left for me to own is the silencerco. And ive considered it but i dont need another right now. Adjustable gas is how i solve my gas to face issue. Works for lefty’s and righty’s
The bootleg adjustable bcg is the real deal!!!! There are a couple UA-cam video about it. It shines as its an easier solution to gas adjustments once you factor in easy install, cost and effectiveness.
I’ve got the bootleg and the Gemtech. Finish and construction on the Gemtech is markedly better, but the bootleg is more adjustable. I’m yet to figure out if the in between settings are useful or if they’re like the 2-5x settings on a 1-6 LPVO. @Modern Warriors if you want to borrow one, I have an extra bootleg carrier
While piston guns can be better, they arent always the best option for eliminating gas. Typically the gasses still need to go somewhere, and they can still be gassy, just in a different location.
Holy Crap that was a major typo on our end. We have corrected the price and gotten it down to where it should have been. Thank you for letting us know!
PRI Gas Buster is the best in elimination of almost all gas. They have gas channels under and below the base of the CH to direct gases sideways and a large thick wall to protect the face and eyes. It's why they're used on serious duty builds like suppressed KAC m110s.
This is exactly why I want to go the OSS route. I'll sacrifice a few decibles and a little flash if it means I'm not eating gas the rest of my life training.
@@modernwarriorsut Of course! That's it! I can't believe I haven't thought of this! I'm right-handed now! It feels like a whole other person is touching my pp!
Get the Radian then put hi temp gasket maker on it making a high lip like the SilencerCo or Geissele. Get the best of both worlds. Only costs $10 extra
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This is the only video with actual usage footage(that I’ve found on UA-cam so far).
Tired of UA-camrs that claim certain Brands of Charging Handles are in their (expert opinion) the best in the market, without any actual visual proof 🤷♂️🤦♂️
I appreciate the time & work that went into making this video content 👍💯
This is one of the best charging handle videos! Would be great if we can get a part 2 featuring other CH options
Thank you! We may do another one in the future depending on what additional options we decide to carry in the shop
PRI gas buster!!!! Please@@modernwarriorsut
I have the Griffin SNACH and have used the Raptor SD. Using an older AAC can on a 12.5 and 10.5, the Griffin charging handle does a great job at diverting gas. Highly recommend.
Ok, those gassing shots were THE best showcase of AR gassing period. I'll subscribe just for that alone.
THANK YOU! It was a challenge to show for sure.
This was a nice video. I would like to see a part 2 with some other charging handles like the PRI M84 ambi, Geissele charging handle, the Armageddon!!
Great that you candidly give the pros and cons and state which one is your top pick. this video was very helpful by observing the gas exit from each charging handle.
Thank you! We try really hard to be honest in our findings.
I have the griffin snach and sico gdch and use their 46m suppressor on rounds large and small. The sico (when it works) is head and shoulders above the snach, it doesnt come close. But the handle of the sico went flying off on the first charge at the range😞, seems like its a common problem. Also the gasket WILL get bunched up at some point and not allow the bcg to go into battery. I actually had to sand my gasket down at the ends so it was like a ramp or wedge effect and there was no more bunching. Use 3k to 5k grit it makes it very smooth. Thats too much imo to do for a $100+ charging handle. The griffon does make you cry somewhat but not that bad. The sico is on my hunting rifles and the griffon is on defense. If you get the sico make sure the pins holding the handles on are flared properly and shave those ends of the gasket.
I own all 3 and also own the PRI gas buster and the GDCH works the best but it is the least durable and dependable by a FAR margin. The rollpins on the GDCH keep falling out and the O-ring does need to get replaced after approx 1k rounds depending on caliber. Lost the right side rollpin and it's latch during a 2 Gun event. I loctited the rollpin and put black duct tape over it on my other GDCH. SiCo has had my first GDCH for over 5 weeks now and is waiting for parts. I would NOT recommend the GDCH at all until the rollpin issue is figured out.
So what’s second best?
Had my GDCH sent in 2 months ago cause it fell apart just racking the bolt. Still waiting to receive it back.
@ian jenisek Good luck, they've had mine since October. I put duct tape over the rollpins of my other 2 GDCH which has started to walk up and out.
@@jccarp2 Griffin Armament's SNACH actually works really nice (if not the same) as long as if you're not a lefty. The SNACH is what I use for PRS comps in my 6 ARC AR because I have zero confidence in SiCo's offering.
I would like to see the strike industries gas buster charging handle compared to these others. Whst do you think of using a gemtech suppressed bcg in combination with one of these charging handles?
I bought the Radian SD, installed it and never really gave much thought to the gas mitigation. I am here to strictly see if I was bambozled or not
Definitely not a bad option. They are better than milspec by quite a bit.
Dig the video and appreciate the info. I have the Radian but haven’t had the opportunity to run my rifle with the suppressor yet. This gave me another option should I not like the performance of the Radian. Thanks
Very pleased with the Griffin, so I bought another.
Great choice!
Can you test the Breek Arms Sledgehammer? Want to know comparisons vs those that have already been tested.
What if you drilled vent holes into the Snach similar to what the Raptor has… and maybe added a then line of silicone to the bottom of the handle? The perfect charging handle????
Adding Permatex to seal any charging handle will always improve gas to the face mitigation. I've made this mod to all of my charging handles. I plan to mod all of my charging handles similar to the SilencerCo charging handle as well using this video as a guide: ua-cam.com/video/F5nRe0RuGLg/v-deo.html. Not sure I would start drilling holes into the actual body of the charging handle that sits inside the receiver. I'm not really convinced that this does a whole lot to be honest, and I have a Radian Raptor SD.
Kinda wished the Geissele CH and PRI were also included so that there's just one video comparing all of them
We may include them in a future video if we ever carry them at the shop.
I bought the Griffin Armament after watching this video. I put it in a Gen 3 PA-10 but it doesn't work. Pulls slightly back and then gets stuck. Pulled out the bolt carrier and inspected. Everything looked great inside and out. I have never run into this problem before except on a Sig 716. I really want to make it work but am afraid to start grinding off the hard anodizing for fear of corrosion in the future and the possibility I may not get the results I need. I will try to call them if they post a phone number. If anyone has run into a problem like this feel free to reply. Such a strange situation.
I wish you guys would do a part 2 with the geissele sch, forward controls acf, and gasket-enhanced milspec. There's definitely a market for these for those who switch between suppressed and unsuppressed fairly often
I don't like the ACF because it sits above the body. So if you put your magpul mbus back there, it can have problems laying down.
Would like to see this video with some kind of brass catch type system covering the ejection port so as better isolate the gasses exiting the charging handle area. Otherwise very good job showing this.
Great suggestion!
The geissele is good at managing gas as well.
I like Sn-ach!!!
The smoke videos were helpful
glad they were helpful for you
Wish you would have tried a Breek Arms Sledgehammer or Warhammer also. Good job thanks
Maybe one day!
Everyone says silencerco is unreliable. I have Radian, SNACH, Geissele Airborn, and BCM. I like SNACH the most. I bought more for my other builds. I also have CMC's adjustable BCG.
Waiting on my snatch to ship, as well as griffins enhanced bcg (from midway). UPS is horribly slow to get on it
Bummer about the shipping, but as the saying goes, all good things to those who wait
I wonder how these would perform with the huwx works suppressor??
Me too
With as well as they do at eliminating back pressure we would be surprised if you even notice blow back with a mil spec charging handle.
I tried the Griffin Armament charging handle, but as a left handed shooter, it was terrible. It is only designed for right handed shooters. I have since swapped it out with the Radian and paired it with an adjustable gas block. No more gas to the face.
Have you tested the AP AR15 BREACH®Charging Handle?
We havent
I have the PRI gas buster and it seems to work well. My concern for the Griffin is that it feels really cheaply made and reminds me of the Chinese made pot metal airsoft versions. Nevertheless, I purchased one for another suppressor build and it seems to work well using my old TAC16 can mounted on my Noveske Afghan.
I can see where you are coming from for sure. The fit and finish on the Griffin is kinda rough.
@@modernwarriorsut They openly admitted their LPVO is made in China. Who is to debunk that their charging handles and anything else is made in China. I admit that it works well on my setup but when I put it side to side against my PRI, it just feels cheap and lightweight.
Thank you for video. Great job!
thank you!
This was awesome ty for ur time!! Tot subbed!!!
I’d like to hear your thoughts on the Breek Sledgehammer
No experience with it, so i couldnt offer any real insight
A friend of mine wants to know how the Breek Sledgehammer compares ;)
Great and informative vid. Thanks.
How did the snatch beat the silencer co. Unless the rubber actually came off. I don't see how.
It was for that reason that we had to give the win to the Snatch as it isnt relying on a part that could easily come off during hard use. If the Gasket comes off, the GDCH is about as bad as a milspec
@@modernwarriorsut could possibly or did come off? There is a huge difference in those two
@@pjshooter6 the fact that silencerco includes a spare gasket, and tells you how to source one indicates that the gasket can either fall out at some point, or it can wear out.
by nature, any and all gaskets can and will fail eventually. even those that dont move. case and point: any automotive vehicle has hundreds of gaskets, they all fail eventually, just a matter of time.
@@eitrisenhancementsllc yes but the other one literally blows gas directly into a leftys face. It's all fun and games until you have to transition sides to shoot around a barrier ect. Very poorly though out. Only usable for a target range gun, hunting ect. The fact your overlooking this major fault shows a bias. Probably financially motivated one....
@@pjshooter6 actually, the snach is drilled on both sides, the latch on the left side passes over it so its hard to spot.
Ive owned this charging handle and it has its own set of latch issues.
So much so that i sold the one i had.
Im definitely also not overlooking the faults, just saying that the silencerco has a wear item with their solution, while the snach does not.
Only one left for me to own is the silencerco. And ive considered it but i dont need another right now.
Adjustable gas is how i solve my gas to face issue.
Works for lefty’s and righty’s
Bad ass review brother I love all griffin products I buy all kinds of their products and their bcg the enhanced version I bought is amazing
Thank you!
I'd like for you to review the bootleg adjustable BCG as it's advertised to be better than the charging handles
That is a great idea! We will have to give that a try
The bootleg adjustable bcg is the real deal!!!! There are a couple UA-cam video about it. It shines as its an easier solution to gas adjustments once you factor in easy install, cost and effectiveness.
ua-cam.com/video/D_zSF7tCwWo/v-deo.html
I’ve got the bootleg and the Gemtech. Finish and construction on the Gemtech is markedly better, but the bootleg is more adjustable. I’m yet to figure out if the in between settings are useful or if they’re like the 2-5x settings on a 1-6 LPVO. @Modern Warriors if you want to borrow one, I have an extra bootleg carrier
@@alexlevinson8629 The Gemtech is discontinued.
Left-Handed, standard AR User has entered the chat and glad he did.
Glad to have you!
Why not convert to piston and avoid the gas issue.
While piston guns can be better, they arent always the best option for eliminating gas. Typically the gasses still need to go somewhere, and they can still be gassy, just in a different location.
@@modernwarriorsut True, true My 10.5's been converted to piston and I'm loving it.
@@modernwarriorsut I have heard they make the forend near the piston system heat up fast. Pros and cons to everything.
Why is the Griffin is $100 more that the average price on your site?
Holy Crap that was a major typo on our end. We have corrected the price and gotten it down to where it should have been. Thank you for letting us know!
No PRI Gasbuster?
We dont sell them at the moment, so we didnt have one to test. We may do another updated video in the future and include one as the baseline.
@@modernwarriorsut They have a few different models now.
PRI Gas Buster is the best in elimination of almost all gas. They have gas channels under and below the base of the CH to direct gases sideways and a large thick wall to protect the face and eyes. It's why they're used on serious duty builds like suppressed KAC m110s.
We have heard great things about them, we may carry them one day if we can get a good source
Great if you're right handed. The search for the wrong handed gas buster continues...
Don’t forget the PRI gas buster
We would have loved to try one out.
I have the pri on my 9” 300 bo
What about the Warhammer???
We havent ever seen that one in person. May have to check it out in a later video
The griffin seams rest unless you’re left handed then it’s directed into your face.
correct, if you are a lefty, the Griffin would be a bad idea
safe to say the Griffin was not designed for lefties?
We wouldn't recommend it.
Nope and that should be a negative for the griffin
This is exactly why I want to go the OSS route. I'll sacrifice a few decibles and a little flash if it means I'm not eating gas the rest of my life training.
The new 556 Flow is a pretty sweet can. ESPECIALLY for the size!
My rifle is tuned within a gas block and gas in the face is almost none existent.
Snatch is great, unless you are a lefty.
The Griffin Armament charging handle is cool and all... But I'm left-handed...
Have you tried not being left handed?
@@modernwarriorsut Of course! That's it! I can't believe I haven't thought of this! I'm right-handed now! It feels like a whole other person is touching my pp!
Get the Radian then put hi temp gasket maker on it making a high lip like the SilencerCo or Geissele.
Get the best of both worlds. Only costs $10 extra
Love this idea and we may have to try it out!
Pri got it right
Ammo choice. Tula ammo is nasty!
Only the nastiest for this test haha
Introduction was a killer... we know what the video is about. We already clicked on the title. Get to it.
This is the type of constructive criticism we need. Thank you, we will keep that in mind
Bruh chill
Make your own video then bishh
you didn't try a PRI gas buster? The gas buster is the go to of which all others are judged.
We would have if we had any in stock. But we figured it would be best to demonstrate the ones that we regularly stock.
Did not see much of a difference, better to use different ammo.
As a lefty the snatch is probably the worst lol. That shit ports directly in front of your face
That would definitely be a bad choice for a lefty
Snake oil. Any benefit is so minimal. Look just run what you like. Can afford.
Definitely not a do all fix thats for sure.
Griffin is useless to left hand shooters
Absolute snake oil.