I’ve seen old concepts where Magnifico and Amaya were both the villains, where Star wasn’t a tiny plushie thing but instead a shape-shifting boy Asha was going to fall in love with, and honestly *every* other concept was better than what we got.
That would've been SO COOL! An evil couple?! Honestly, the entire concept sounds better than the movie we got. I hate the design of the star. It's so...boring. Uninspired.
Ugh that sounds WAY better than what we got a classic Disney romance and then he could turn back into a star at the end so Asaha doesn’t have to end up with him at the end. Or something but what we got was so safe
I think one of the biggest issues with Disney is that they're focusing too much on the live action remakes. Puss in Boots the Last Wish was a great family film. Jack Horner is totally an alagorie for Disney. The magic is fading but other studios are saving animation.
Those live action remakes are terrible too, for the most part. I wish they would stop making them altogether and get back to making good movies like Puss In Boots The Last Wish. I totally agree that other studios are totally leaving them in the dust at this point, and it's their own fault.
@@MothGirl007Agreed. At first, I thought the live-action remakes could be a good idea if they were as different as Cinderella and continued to make animated movies like Princess and the Frog and Tangled. But nope. With very few exceptions, their films have been devoid of creativity and heart. I personally blame the studio heads, not the creatives. It’s heartbreaking.
Ya know, I used to think the Cinderella slander was true UNTIL you realize Cinderella is actually an ABUSE victim that didnt let her abuse stop her from being kind and caring for others. Cinderella had a personality and kindness
A lot of the ways the older Disney princesses are characterized are lies. Namely, they are accused of having no agency or personality when they did. Snow White was kind and naive but she was NOT a pushover to the dwarves. She was willing to scold and tease them even as a guest in their house. She had a lot of personality. Even Aurora, who had very little screentime, and her storyline which involves being lied to about her plight and being entranced by Malificent (both of which remove agency by no fault of her own), was shown to have some personality when she shows she is wise to the fairies' lies to get her out of the house and is shown to have a weak resolve in her interaction with the prince due to her shelteredness. She is given a lot of personality and characterization of positive and negative traits in such a short time.
People ignore that the dwarves didn't just let Snowwhite stay at their house, she offered them a service in exchange of shelter, with her cleaning their house serving as early payment, and she cooking for them was another deal she made for them, in which she only asked for them to wash their hands as trade, something only Grumpy refused, and was soon hilariously reprimanded for being filthy and rude She didn't get the respect of the dwarves for doing nothing, she helped them, they helped her back, and she even eventually earned the trust of Grumpy so much he was the frontrunner when the evil queen poisoned Snowwhite, and was hit the hardest for the tragedy
Completely agree! Everyone forgets that Snow White, a tiny 14 year old girl, was nearly stabbed to death while just picking some flowers on a VERY rare day off, and then told to run for her life into the WOODS, with no supplies, no warning, nothing but the clothes on her back. She was rightfully scared out of her mind! But very quickly, she took hold of the situation, and her own mental health. If the one thing that would make her feel like she could go on living was to sing a cutesy song with some birds, then that’s what she was going to do. And after that, she found the dwarves’ house and immediately set to work making it nice for them so they’d let her stay. That was some good strategizing. She used what she was good at, her unique strengths, and survived. Of course cooking and cleaning was her strength, it was all her stepmother ever let her do! And she was very much a motherly figure to the seven of them, and wasn’t afraid to let them know her opinions. And of course she was dreaming of the handsome prince, he was probably one of the few kind people in her whole life, and, again, she was only 14! So yeah. I’ve always been impressed by Snow White; I watched her movie a million times growing up and when I rewatched it as an adult it really hit me how misunderstood she was.
@@cellytron Exactly! And her relationship with the animals wasn't JUST for the "cute" moment; for Snow White (and Aurora) it helped highlight how alone and friendless they really were. Snow White's "Whistle While You Work" is a song about making the best of things in spite of the situation. It was literally about singing to help you get chores done, but it's also an allegory for the broader mindset she has about the dire situation that is her life. She's a girl in exile who KNOWS she will be killed if she is found, but she still tries to find or make happy moments to get her through it so that she doesn't give up and despair.
What I find so ironic about Wish is how it’s whole message is about pursuing your dreams and taking the risk even if the dream is “dangerous”. Yet they completely play it safe and restrict themselves. They don’t wanna push past the boundaries which made the film so mid. In a way, King Magnifico kind of represents the higher ups of Disney since he doesn’t let anyone try something new and stick to what is tradition💀
I think this film runs into the same problem that Chicken Little had. It's creating a checklist and trying to cash in on other successful films without realizing what made those films successful. I think this film could have worked if they just committed to what they wanted to do, but they let popular opinion sway them and it comes off feeling restricted. To Disney, I want to say this: do your own thing. Don't let people dictate what you want to do, and give more creative freedom. Make more films like Meet the Robinsons, Bolt, Lilo and Stitch, and The Emperor’s New Groove. Surprise me. Interest me. They don't have to be 10/10 films, but they have to be good and interesting. If you're wondering why indie animation is taking off, it's because of this reason.
I just read so fast when scrolling down the comment section that I briefly only reacted to the word "chicken" which reminds me of that recent South Park special!
@@elijahalward-vb1pn Chicken Little was a rip off of Shrek. This is what they meant by, "It's creating a checklist and trying to cash in on other successful films without realizing what made those films successful."
Ghibli's "The Boy and the Heron" is the type and quality of film, Disney's 100 year anniversary film should have been like. It pisses me off that Wish is such a bland movie.
Studio Ghibli consistently creates films that are superior to Disney's and is in a whole other realm, imho. I just wish Disney could at least aspire to be in the same league with them, but it hasn't happened in a long time.
@@nanonano2595 I am probably the only person who likes that movie. Ironically, *Earwig and the Witch* is the exact opposite of *Howl's Moving Castle* in terms of creative approach despite both being based off of books written by the late Diana Wynn Jones. I think it's just too much of a departure from what people expect from Ghibli flims in story, tone, and animation. It rubs people the wrong way and I think that if it wasn't, "A Ghibli Movie," it wouldn't have the bad wrap it does. There are probably other reasons too, but I think that's the big stickler.
The fact that the concepts are better than the actual finished product is crazy 😭😭 like the star was going to be a shapeshifter and the king and queen would be an evil couple??
That would’ve made Asha and the star a great foil to them. Show a type of evil man and evil woman, and then show the opposite in the female protagonist and love interest
A problem with the villain, is that they gave him a wife. The problem with giving a villain a loving wife that is also a good person is that then you have someone that cares deeply for that person and has to confront the heart-shattering reveal that said person is a villain and has to see the said person, whom they had given their love to, and who probably loved them back, suffer the consequences. It wouldnt be a terrible idea but you would need excellent writting in order to pull off such an intense emotional moment, and yet from the spoilers Ive heard, the writers just ignored it as if Amaya and Magnifico had never loved each other.
Disney is afraid to make villains bad. They are either misunderstood or lashing out because of hurt. Although this does make good storytelling it needs to be told be a very good story teller. If someone told me this done by AI I would not be surprised
I've seen the movie, ( spoilers, spoilers spoilers) its not that they act like she never loved each other it's..... just not enough time to convey the depths of her emotions. She has a change of heart off screen after he uses the evil book and immediately almost kills her just for slightly implying she agreed with the hero ( but he's cursed, so his personality has been forcefully changed ), shows up to the hero to announce she's helping betray the king in a musical number ( that cannot at all convey the heartache this must cause her ). And then very soon after she begs them to check if the spell he's under can be broken, the book says he's evil forever sorry, and she's like " oh well, he brought this on himself " and then she kind of has some oddly lighthearted banter with him after he's defeated that has the vibe of " Oh, you~ take this scamp to the dungeon ". There's a slight twinge of girl power " girl you're too good for him " energy there, but really the two had such good chemistry when they were in love you really just kind of feel bad that the hero effectively caused her divorce to happen lmao.
@@abc.6223 thanks for clarifying. Like I said I havent seen the film ( and not sure if I want to now), but still this feels like very lazy writting. Even so it would have been very simple to just make him a court wizard with either, no romantic attachments to the queen, or as someone that was trying to pine for her affections but whom she, despite admiring him, was just not into.
If you can't make a movie with Ariana Debose, Chris Pine, the two directors of Frozen as director and screenwriter on a budget of $200 million with an actual Disney villain and song work, it leaves me to wonder what the hell the point of this movie even was. How do you somehow screw that all up? Disney had an open goal on this one and they fucked it up with the same stupidity...AGAIN.
All the experienced, talented people have been driven out and replaced with tick box hires to promote the propaganda. Movies are just vehicles to propagate the ideology.
I hated the side characters designs... It did not feel disney. Dahlia's visual design pissed me off. They are TEENS and she looks like a woman in her 30s? With this horrible haircut, dress and the colour scheme?? Asha and Dahlia do not look like friends of the same age, they look like an older woman being a mentor to Asha. And overall her design annoys me, idk why. I think coz she looks so eh?
@hibikuokudan yeah she's part of " the teens" team, and if I understand correctly, didn't get her wish, that they give away at 18. So, yeah she's at the oldest 17...
I study animation, and when it comes to the technical issues, especially two scenes caught my eye. First one, when Magnifico change the dude into a knight, the background behind the columns was plain color. Blue/orange combo, but plain color. Not even a hint of clouds. That came out so lazy, aswell as the second scene, where Asha is on the tree, the sea in the background is not even moving. Sea...not moving. What the hell Disney? Also an amount of scenes with central composition, and the scenes with characters seen from the side (aka: the most boring shot possible) is HUGE. Storyboards for this movie must have been made by interns (no shame, everyone starts somewhere, however if we are not capable of making a compelling story yet, we should get help from experienced people who correct our mistakes...). Also the light was sometimes so off, like it's supposed to help guide you through a movie, but some choices were just so weird. Same for color...remember Hades' or Scar's color settings? all dark, with a slight hint of color, very dramatic, and here? Magnifico comes out like My Little Pony, surrounded mostly by pink/purple/white colors. Even if he didn't start out as totally evil, a foreshadowing with color wouldn't hurt. This movie is so meh...
Disney has had a weird on/off problem is scene lighting/composition for a while now. Idk why, might be the personal preference of one of the executives. See Avengers endgame, for example, the lighting, scenes and tones were so bleh, grey, messy and muddy. Encanto still at least tried, so I can only assume someone, somewhere had to deliberately meddle with wish to make its scene planning worse.
This is not a hybrid, mix nor a fusion between 2D and 3D animation. It's a medium mimic and trying to be something it's not. It's just a cheap unfinished cel-shading filter which is not a hybrid, mix nor fusion between the two techniques. It's just 3D models adding some outlines with limited use of color, shadows and lighting. That's why it look cheap like a PS2 graphics as well as it's a common cheap technique amongst mass-produced children's shows that you don't require much effort for. A true 2D and 3D hybrid/mix/fusion would look something like Roger Rabbit (but with CGI), Maui's animated tattoos or the Pixar's short Paperman. There could be various of creative directions and diverse outcomes by fusing/mixing/hybridize between 2D and 3D. While Spiderverse did try to look like a comic book at appropriate times but was more aware surrounded it (maybe because comic books are a completely different medium) as well as doing its own thing with being much more experimental with various of art and animation styles. It looks better because they heavily tweaked the outlines and the models so that it would fit the stylized scenes and perspectives to avoid looking like a typical stiff cel-shaded video game graphics too. As well as they had much more effort and care than Wish.
THANK YOU! Everyone claiming it’s a hybrid has been driving me crazy. It’s a fucking shader and it’s not even a complex one. Not anywhere near the ballpark of Spiderverse or the new Puss In Boots. The early marketing really sold people on a concept for the art direction that this movie does not even touch.
It won’t come out until December for me in Japan, but my partner and I plan on seeing it (in Japanese since he doesn’t speak English lol). A lot of your complaints about the animation is the same concerns I had when I saw the trailer. So it makes me sad the animation wasn’t improved before release. As a side note, I think Miyazaki’s new movie “How is it to Live” (I think the English title is something like “The Boy and the Heron” maybe) is coming out in America soon and if you want a spectacular version of a celebration of an animator’s style, that movie legit brought tears to my eyes. I highly recommend trying to see it if it’s in a theatre near you.
You know what I want? A 2D Disney movie in the style of that 70s Barbie Month commercial. A princess film at that. It abandons their overly realistic in-house design in favor of something fresh. That style of character design with Disney level animation, wouldn’t that be neat? Also, I want Dan Povenmire and Jeff “Swampy” Marsh to do an original animated theatrical movie for Disney, princess or not. Their shows at DTVA proves they’re more than capable of doing an animated movie for Disney.
yess!! and can i just add for the 2D animation i think if they add animals the animator for those could be Aaron Blaise! he worked on the Brother Bear movies and a few others i cant recall, hes an amazing animator and i would love to see him do more work. Although im not sure if he still works at disney, but if he does and they do decide to create a 2D animated movie like you say (very unlikely) i would love to see him work on it.
Problem is Disney doesn't have a 2d studio anymore. I have met a couple of the guys who were working there when they closed it. The 2d shows are outsourced to other countries. They don't want to spend the money or the time on something they think is a dead medium.
Asha needed to be the female equivalent to Kuzco from the Emperor’s New Groove, having her start out as selfish in the beginning and becoming a better person by the end. Or imagine she did something similar to Maui from Moana, snuck in and stole her grandfather’s wish with the intention of making come true only to find out it was so vague a wish that it would bring ruin to the kingdom.
The "limitation of camera movement" excuse for not using 2D is just lazy as hell. You could just do almost anything to 2D so long you have effort and care such as in Roger Rabbit. Reusing models and put a cel-shaded filter on it trying to be something it's not is just lazy and distracting. It's like arguing photographs are more superior than paintings because you can just snap a photo and make it look like a painting by some photoshop filters in less than a hour without need to studying perspectives and color theory.
Bruh I think they forgot about the ballroom scene in beauty and the beast. That sh!t still brings tears to my eyes and I’ve seen it 1000 times. Even hunchback of Norte Dame has great movement, in the parade scene. Don’t even get me started on Studio Ghilbi 😅
The problem is Disney really doesn't have anyone who knows 2D anymore and they're not putting any effort into actually finding people who do. Remember the Mary Poppins Returns fiasco and how the 2D sequence for that was a task and a half not because of the idea, but because they had not enough people available to do it which almost fucked it over.
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid Yeah, I suspected that too and they could just be honest about not finding animators who knows the 2D techniques rather than blaming the art form itself. I knew a ton of young 2D animators like myself eager to work for Disney which is just sad. Maybe they just don't want to hire more people because they are struggling economically right now? Although they keep digging themselves deeper in their graves keep doing bad decisions.
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid they would have to hire japanese animators, but the end result might have a lot more panty shots and laser beams flying around. maybe that would make it better, idk.
Disney just feels like a cowardly company afraid of offending people. They constantly feel like they have to atone for something, represent someone or neuter themselves instead of saying something interesting. Truly psychotic villains are part of what made Disney so exciting and it's sorely missing now
Well yeah, people are their shareholders/investors... If they get offended they might sell off their stock and invest their money elsewhere.... (Corporate drones are terrified of risk, and anything even remotely interesting carries risk.)
The song tone sounds in reverse. The protagonist song (Knowing What We Know Now) sounds like an antagonist song and the antagonist song (This is the Thanks I Get?) sounds like the protagonist song. Weird.
The writers of the 1992 Aladdin wisely placed limitations on wishes...this discourages any misuse or abuse of such power... However, current Disney got Unlimited wishes.... the power was misused and abused..now look at sorry mess Disney is now in.
Magnifico isn't evil. Period. Not all wish should be granted; IRL people wish for bad/selfish things all the time ('God Help the Outcasts' from Hunchback made a clear reference to this), but I guess in the naive world of Neo-Disney, everybody wishes for sweets, sprinkles, and sunshine all the time. Although he shouldn't have appointed himself the determiner of which wish should be granted, doesn't make him bad. Asha and the townspeople had nothing against only select wishes being granted, until they realised the chances of THEIRS being granted are very small, like wth?! This speaks a lot about their anti-dictatorship messaging that just feels so jarring and executed poorly; they could've made instead of granting wishes that are good for the town, he granted those that clearly benefit him instead though morally wrong like real-life politicians. This would've fix problems both regarding the real nature of wishes and political corruption.
The fact that magnifico took people’s wishes and led them on some false hope that one day their wish would be granted is already bad. When you also take into account that he doesn’t fully explain how those people who give up their wish lose a part of themselves, he becomes even worse. Asha clearly explains how if the wishes were bad, they should be stopped, but in the movie, magnifico was villainizing innocent wishes because he wanted to keep them for himself, thus making the people of rosas ignorant and lost. Asha discovered that magnifico wouldn’t even consider returning the wishes to the people, and that’s truly when she started to push against the whole wish ceremony thing, because it showed that magnifico was content in keeping the people of rosas around his finger. Magnifico is absolutely evil, especially knowing that he intentionally resorted to forbidden/dark magic just to keep his power :/
@@bringbackthedarkness Lol and then Asha goes on to play Magnifico 2.0 by granting the wishes of only a select princesses and ignoring those of billions of others whose stories are not worth making into a disney film 😂
@@orcinus2104 this is a disney film, what are you talking about 💀 we can safely assume that Asha will follow what she said: if needed, grant the wishes of those who ask as long as they are not harmful. I don’t know how that is anywhere near magnifico 2.0. I also don’t know why you’re talking about her ignoring billions of others when that has nothing to do with the story and truthfully, it isn’t her job to fix EVERY single problem. It seems like you didn’t really watch the movie and are hating for no reason lmfao
To me I think the villain should have leaned into his strength! It isn't that he's a weak villain, it's that he's a complicated villain. In any other story that would be a wonderful thing, but their obsession with trying to frame him like a "classic disney villain" stripped him of his potential to be a morally gray, well intentioned extremist. He has ALL this setup showing that he's actually a very complex person with a tragic past and a loving wife and clearly, based on that one song, some kind of passion for protecting people. Frame him like an over protective, coddling provider, maybe even keep his vain personality and make him someone that doesn't realize that his desire to be seen as a competent and successful king ( spurred on by his history of watching his family's kingdom fall ) has gotten in the way of his own principles and have him realize that. BUT they can't do that, because that would be yet another redeemable, modern villain, and its very clear to me that they kind of swooped in at the last minute to afflict him with the evil-ification beam and make him literally irredeemable by the rule of magic.
So the same problem as many other elements in the film - trying to be too many different things at once. Instead of picking a direction and doing it well, it tried to incorporate all the references, tropes, style variations, etc., which makes the film confused and underwhelming instead of nostalgic, innovative, engaging, or thought provoking.
Not sure if anyone has thought this but though I agree that the characters look bad or not "finished" in some scenes, I think I may know what they were going for. I thought of this as I rewatched Snow White after this film. In those older 2D films, characters were flat by design with all of their colors one solid piece without any textures. The backgrounds however were fully rendered and shaded with hand-painted pieces. In this film, the backgrounds are given the same watercolor painted style, and the characters have very basic but simple textures and shadowing. So maybe they were trying to give it that old vibe just using 3D models. It didn't exactly land well but I can kind of see what they were aiming for.
Whenever I think of "celebrations of Disney animation" I always think of Fantasia 2000. I used to watch that on repeat because I found it so beautiful and enchanting to watch and much of the film has little to no dialogue!! But it's all so gorgeous!!! That's what Wish SHOULD have been! Not...whatever this is...
Disney may lied of the return of 2d. The worst thing is that wish was supposed to be made in 2d. But they switched to 3d animation like the princess sofia.
Crushing a dream will not scare a kid, what are Disney doing here? They should of kept the spoiled prince angle and started with a silent montage of Magnifico and his brother, the king, overshadowing him as they grew. Brother says, "I'm proud of you" and makes him wish granter. Magnifico searches for his brothers dream for a peaceful kingdom and crushes it. King forgets his dream and there's unrest. Until Magnifco wishes to be the king of a perfect empire and locks his brother away. Everyone is unquestioningly loyal to Magnifico... except for Asha who CARES TOO MUCH so she sets out on her adventure to figure out why he would abandon his kingdom. Now crushing the dream is scary and matters and her flawlessness has a purpose.
Saberspark has said this before: there's "good" bad, and then there's "bad" bad... but the absolute WORST thing you can do is be forgettable. If this movie is FORGETTABLE... 6/10 is generous it seems. 💀 Watched Dazz's review as well and he said that the theatre he went into was dead quiet and it was filled with CHILDREN. So according to him, this movie isn't even "watchable". That's sad but honestly I'm happy about it because Disney needs to be humbled a bit. They can take a loss, and I lowkey hope the next movie continues their fall off because they deserve it. Hate that they're taking Pixar down with them, though. Scared for Inside Out 2...
It had potential to be good, but Disney decided they had to go for an approach to the concept that was very "safe" and boring. It just didn't click for me
I saw Wish yesterday and I honestly thought it doesn't deserve all the hate I've been hearing from critics, however I also agree improvements could have been made. Its not a stellar Disney flick like I hoped, but it wasn't awful either. Many things about it were still pretty good and I found enjoyable, mainly Ariana's singing and Chris Pine's over the top performance! The movie's job was mainly supposed to be a big nod to all of Disney's animated films and I feel like the movie did its job, but the down side of that is that it struggles with being its own story and hitting the high mark Disney is known for because of nodding to the past so much.
"Its not a stellar Disney flick like I hoped, but it wasn't awful either" "it struggles with being its own story and hitting the high mark Disney is known for" The "worst movie ever" stuff is always over-the-top and obnoxious, but you're not exactly selling the movie as being worth watching yourself. Most reviews are that it's uninspired and blandly acceptable, which is how your own review reads.
I agree. I took my 3 year old and 5 year old and they love it. I liked it as well. There was a lot of emotion and the songs were nice. It won't hold up to recent hits like encanto or frozen but it was enjoyable and kids will love it 😊
@@vlo4829 you didn’t read the comment. It doesn’t hit the stellar high mark Disney is known for for sure because of its focus on reflecting on all the past films. On the side, the film did have some good elements. A ton of media out there isn’t good or bad either so that’s nothing new and reviewing them isn’t that simple. That’s not hard to understand, but whatever.
Someday the magic will return again, after all Disney has been through dark periods like this before, and they always come back to form in one way or another.
The male characters have that typical schnozz to accentuate how unique and kind hearted people they are, typical disney formula. Girls are cute and guys have big nose
If they wanted to make the villian evil they could have pretended like he was gonna grant the grandpa's wish, called him in for an audience and CRUSHED the wish in front of him. "And this is the thanks I get..."
I feel like this was AI based on Twitter and Tumblr. It wouldnt surprise me if it was done by AI. It just seems soulless. It should work logically but it lacks heart and passion. Disney needs to accepy passion takes time and cant be rushed or factory made.
you know whats sad, even if you ask a kid to come up a story based on this movie's concept, they would have made that far more entertaining and colorful than current Disney could ever create.
Yeah I’ve said it before just from the trailer but the donkey looked like it was just put in so they can sell it has merch after lol “Oh look at this funny cute donkey, he doesn’t do much in the film, but he’s cute, buy it!” It just feels like that to me 😆
Man, why am I always late to these?! Anyway, it's a shame that Wish has bombed so badly. When I heard about it a year ago I got super hopeful! It's so sad that I was let down. But what do you expect from modern Disney? Such a shame... I want them to be good so I can enjoy their movies again. But I genuinely think Disney has lost its magic spark. RIP, I guess.
Sometimes I just think we adults just haven’t realized we have outgrown children movies. When I watch old movies I just don’t get that feeling I use too. Sometimes I even question why was I even so obsessed with this movie. I believe our opinions are biased because we are comparing old movies to today movies When I was a kid my mom would say some of my favorite shows and movies were corny and boring and now I as an adult say the same for some of the Disney shows and movies today.
The concept art for this movie looks so much better. Makes me wonder how much of the meh we got was because of studio interference. It wouldn't be the first time with Disney.
I haven't seen Wish, and I don't really plan to, but the fact of the matter is, when Radcliffe of all people is more interesting than your villain, you have a major problem that needs correcting immediately. After all, at least Radcliffe, as boring and basic as his motives were, tried to kill and incite violence against the Powhattan characters.
Remember, it's the PEOPLE that make disney. We don't have those great legends anymore. For whatever number of reasons. So yeah, OF COURSE thus was written in the stars to fail. P.S..I saw it yesterday and yes I too think this sucked...
Yeah I think the problem with this female protagonist is that she has some things from the others but lacks what makes the others work. Anna clearly is taking the wrong decisions as a result of the fallen bond with her sister, Rapunzel literally escapes captivity, and Mirabel is her family's black sheep and outcast. So this female character needed either an actual flaw to overcome OR something outside of her control that poses a challenge or brings about change for her. And from what I gather the plot about wishes isn't very strong or effective at that, like it doesn't even seem to have ANYTHING to do with her personally.
13:57 Even Spilling The Milk noticed that (FYI Brittany it's a reaction channel with 3 men) when Eden said "in 2023 all the movies that made a boatload of money tried something new including Barbie." And for some reason they included the Mario movie The Mario movie didn't try anything new it still has the same art style as every 3D Disney movie and it had no plot and no character development of any kind the only reason it made that much money is because it has an enormous fanbase.
Allegedly, an animator who worked on 'Wish' came out and said Disney made them render the movie before it was finished, which would make a lot of sense as to why the animation seems off.
I watched Wish last night, and here's my long review. TLDR: I have never seen such a complete Meh of a movie from Disney in my life. Even Chicken Little was better. Magnifico was dumb, and went villain WAY too fast. He had like 2 minutes of speaking, one song, and then boom, villain arc unlocked. The not-dwarves were dumb, mostly pointless, and I couldn't tell you Grumpy, Happy, Bashful, Dopey, or Sneezy's actual names. Sleepy's turn didn't make sense and came out of nowhere. Happy and Bashful were completely pointless, could have been completely removed, and nothing would have changed. Doc was the only one that moved the story to any real degree. Sleepy kinda did, but he could have been replaced by any generic evil sidekick. It didn't have to be Sleepy. The goat was annoying, could have been removed, and nothing would have changed. Other Disney Princess sidekicks had at least one moment where they did something of consequence, like the mice getting Cinderella's dress pieces, being her horses, and getting her key. Valentino added NOTHING. Why did an all powerful mage who can move things without even moving his hands be stopped by a bookcase falling on him long enough for a middle aged woman and a 100 year old man to get away? They made him so stupid powerful that it made zero sense for him to 1) want more power and 2) for any "challenge" to be laughable cause he had to take temporary stupid pills for it to work against him. His motivation was dumb. His jump straight to "I'm being threatened!" by a light was so insanely stupid. His wife going from devoted to backstabbing in the space of a heartbeat was out of left field. She should have been shown to realizing his flaws, and playing the dutiful wife to protect herself from the beginning. When he went full villain within 7 minutes of his introduction, he surely was showing his egomaniacal tendencies long before Asha dared question him. The music was either good or bad, no middle ground. And I don't know if they just kept repeating the music or it was just that forgettable, but I swear the good guys sang the same song at least 3 different times in the movie. The random talking animals were annoying and "quirky" more often than not. In fact, over half the characters could fall into the "quirky and adorkable" trope. Better movie if they still wanted to do wishes: selfish girl, Asha, keeps failing when her friends need help with things. She meets a fallen star that needs to grant wishes/dreams to get back into the sky, and forcibly makes Asha help it. Through this, she sees how much she's failed people and the beauty that wishes and dreams can create, causing her to grow and change into a better person that devotes herself to helping others, ending in her being granted fairy godmother status by the stars.
Final Fantasy IX is my favorite title in that game series. I mention IX because it's full of throwbacks and easter eggs from its previous games. I didn't know that when I was twelve and played it for the first time. I dived in blind and loved everything about that game's story, even though most of its member berries went over my head. This is why good writing is essential. No amount of nostalgia can mask poorly written characters and bad storytelling. Conversely, no amount of missed easter eggs can take away from a good story.
The bad guy is "bad" just because he doesn't make everyone wish come true. And it's like everyone is entitled to force him to work to please people's desires. It really reflect current societal morals. Talented and competent person like him will be expected to take responsability of other people's lifes
Went to see Wish today just to give it a chance and OMG Disney has definitely lost their touch. This was by far the *WORST* movie I've seen from them. Not even 5 minutes in we get a song, and there were *WAY* too many songs. All the "jokes" fell flat, there wasn't enough of a story or world building. There was some definite "woke" messaging in there and it really irritated me. I'm truly sorry to have paid to see this garbage. The Whyte men were villains in the movie *rolls eyes* and yeah, it was just stupid. I didn't like any of the songs, I'm over the whole "adorkable" personality troupe with females as of the last decade or so. I f*cking *HATED* the goat, he was the worst character of all. I didn't care for the animation style either. The magic is truly gone and I'm just disheartened by it all :( I grew up with the Disney Renaissance so my standards are set pretty high. Yes I know the movie wasn't made for me or my peers and that it's intended for children, but as a Disney Renaissance child there's that sweet nostalgia my generation has with our beloved classics ♥so that's why we go to see the latest films, we're hoping for that same magic we grew up with. I'm really hoping Inside Out 2 will be good ♥
29- that is not an original idea though. We've seen it in Jafar and scar. Not disagreeing but I want something better than a petty brother or assistant
I was so hyped for this one. It was the comeback of Disney for me. Nope. The music is simply outstanding. But i worried that we will barely explore the lore, the world that is so beautifully depicted in the artbook and having. I wished for a nice narrative complexity (not too much and no too little). They had an amazing setup for that! The villain follows a gray morality sense [not granting every wish is sensible] but theres the aspect of essentially playing God. And the immaturity of Asha being the bridge between "everyone's wish is important and should be granted" and "there must be a better way to handle this with equity". The immature view of young children vs the parental struggle of being just and fair. IT WAS RITH THERE !. But nope, the story dismisses the complexity of Magnifico by completely focusing on his over the top vanity at the end and giving the message of "you are perfect, your wish is perfect, just work on yourself realize your wish". (So focus on the self and the 'i want so i get it') Heck, there was even an opportunity for the WHOLE community to understand that not every wish can be granted but we can still be grateful with life, i dont know, anything but the simple narrative they chose! Is as bad a narrative (for me) as the Christmas movies that have the presents disapear or something to teach that "is not the presents that make Christmas good, but friends and family" and having the protagonists getting presents anyway at the end! There, i ranted all that i needed. Have a beautiful day everyone and happy holidays ❤
Once upon a studio the short proves that when Disney actually cares they can animate in 2d and keep creativity. Disney wants to make money they didn't care if they wanted to make a great movie they absolutely could have we need a story and not tropes and characters to sell merchandise. Wish proves Disney doesn't care about it's fans.
Nice video 👏 Earlier today I looked the list of shows and movies that Disney has slated to release over the next coming years, and it actually made me sad. So much re-working and re-issues of old ideas. When they have a free opportunity with a blank slate to create something new with Wish they just let themselves down. The studio has connections to Miyazaki , sadly it doesn't extend as far as watching any of his output it seems.
How old is Magnifico? How old is the kingdom of Rosas? What age was Asha's grandfather when he gave up his wish? He would've been a lot older than 18. The math ain't mathin'
King magnificent kinda reads as a less evil more powerful Gaston on paper, in that everyone loves him, his song is all about how awesome he is, and he’s in a position of authority over the public. Yet somehow the one that was just some guy with a knife felt more threatening
Ive just watched the ending credits to this film and something else has just really bugged me about this film (spoilers sort of) theyve put pictures up from other disney films and meant to be celebrating all their Disney films but theyve missed out a few films: Meet the robinsons The 1940s films Black cauldron The Rescuers And im also pissed off theyve left out Donald and Goofy they deserved to be in the credits as well. Honsetly everything about this film (including the credits) is just half arsed 😅 ugh xx
Black Cauldron. That poor poor movie. I honestly feel like, as much of a mess as that plot was, it was more enjoyable to me than Wish. Just because it tried something different. I’d even take Gurgi over Valentino because at least he has a character arc and impacts the story instead of just saying funny lines for no reason.
I think the points of the king are highly being missed and were definitely missed in this review: The arch of his character is that he has created in his mind, a utopian society. When in reality, it is a dystopian society. He established Rosas to create a place that would make those who live there happy and safe, but at the expense of taking away their goals and wishes (what makes them unique and individuals). He feels that this is the right thing to do and it does indeed make his citizens happy and loyal, but it's because they are living in an "ignorance is bliss" lifestyle. It isn't until Asha discovers that he will never grant many of the wishes (the deepest desires of the citizens hearts) that what he has created in this kingdom is wrong. The king does not see it this way and says that he thinks wishes and dreams are dangerous. He sees himself as good and it isn't until he let's himself be influenced by the magic book that he truly becomes an evil and ruthless character who then discovers that not only does keeping the wishes make a "utopia", but they also give him more power when absorbed. This is important because it shows that the King never really cared about the citizens, but rather he cared about power and control more than anything else all along, even if he himself never realized that. In the third act he absorbed many of the wishes and Star himself (Asha's celestial sent guide who was sent out of her own desperation) which causes a deep grief in the citizens since they are their deepest and purest desires that will bring their lives meaning and joy. He is also seen torturing everyone with the dark magic in the climax of the film with Asha at the heart of this physical torture. I think they did really well on this villain because not only did he give that nostalgia back to original Disney baddies that we haven't seen in a while, they made him unique in that he starts off "good" with good intentions, and is oblivious to what he is doing is wrong, and when his citizens call him out on it, he then slowly becomes an evil character thirsty for power. In my opinion these dimensions made him a far more interesting characters rather than if he was "just evil for evil sake". Disney is all about wishes coming true and in this film they made that a very literal part of the story, I enjoyed it overall.
Perfectly said… I was thinking the same thing. Taking away people’s dreams without really giving them the opportunity to fulfill them is awful in and of itself. Living a life without ambition, goals, and drive in no life worth living.
Mmmm... but did they convey that well enough? Yes, you came to that conclusion and so did a few others, but overall was that something that was easily picked up or say nuanced? From what I'm hearing, not many people actually were aware of that. Another reviewer, Saberspark who usually likes movies that the general public and critics dislike, did not mention that in his review and usually he picks up on something like that. And that's a huge problem with modern Disney. They aren't able to tell good stories anymore. They rely to heavily on old tropes or as in the case with their remakes, they rely too heavily on stories they have told before. Personally, I was a little interested in seeing Wish but decided against it because I haven't liked a single Disney movie in a very, very long time.
@@leileyaravencroft If I understood all of this intent, then isn't that proof that the film did its job? I mean even in this video, she literally partially states some of what I said here, but she doesn't quite put the pieces together. I don't think that's the films fault, some people just are missing the point. I've seen other viewers and people online who saw it who gave the movie a positive review and understood these points too. The movie lays out enough of the pieces to understand what I've explained in my original comment.
I know someone at Disney Research who bragged that writers' jobs were already replaced. He said that they had developed AI to generate key story beats from old IP...I wonder now if Wish is what he was referring to. :(
So many people have predicted the death of Disney I remember in the 1980s people were saying that and Disney is still here and they will be here for quite some time to come.
The more you think about the plot, the more and more that it makes no sense. I agree with most of your points too. Felt like AI written and they recycled a ton of their usual tropes
I saw it with my 3 year old and 5 year old and they loved it ☺. There were some lulls and plot holes but overall it was a very cute story. The lead actress who played Asha does a wonderful job. I also thought the songs were great 🤷♀️. I enjoyed it and my girls did. I think people are digging too deep into this because it's popular now to hate on Disney.
pop music is generally disposable: not the best direction if you're trying to get an anniversary hit [unless you think the anniversary is disposable ): ]
People crying over not having real villains and movies being about generational trauma...so far we only got three movies I remember of, I think you're rather annoyed at the villain misunderstood bit because so far the two movies did well with generational trauma. Just because you can't resonate with those movies, doesn't mean it's bad and yes i'm talking about Coco, Encanto and Turning Red. (Coco also had just a twist villain and it honestly worked)
Disney has been absolutely awful for many years, which means zero expectations for any of their stuff nowadays. Honestly, I am just enjoying the awful reviews everytime they release one of their moneysink projects.
My kids, 4&7, loved this movie. Laughed a lot throughout and wanted to hear the soundtrack as soon as we left the theater. Played with the goat toy the theater gave them all weekend.
@@roosterman84i think we can agree that just because 4 and 7 year old kids liked a film and a toy based on it doesn’t mean that an adult can’t critically find things wrong with it? We’re talking about vastly different levels of development here. As a kid I liked some real garbage, just because I was a kid with no real frame of reference. Do you also agree that professional critics who had similar takes on the film (just look at rotten tomatoes) have “UA-cam brain rot” and “can’t make sense of reality”?
You make a great point. The best Disney movies are based on a story by a great writer. Encanto is fine, but if we’re being honest, the music MADE it good. Without it, it’s kind of a meh, inconsequential story, I can take or leave. Moana was a good story. She is literally trying to save her island and all the people on it, and the music was 10/10. They really should have gone back to the drawing board and found a great story to animate and make the music and animation where they put all their energy.
I feel a lot of modern villains have the issue of they can't fully be a villain. Not just Disney but in general. A villain can't be evil just for the sake of being evil. It's like studios want the villain still to be liked, even though they're the bad guy. People can like villains as characters yet still dislike them for how bad they are. People like Scar or Cruella for their cadences their personalities. Meanwhile one betrayed his brother and got him killed, and the other literally wants to kill dogs. Just let a bad guy be a bad guy and absolutely revel in it. That's where you can play up their personality more, it allows more presence.
Thank you for being one of the few commenters to rip Disney pandering without being a bigot. I've watched so many spicy takedowns that I agreed with right up to the point they go: "And the reason Disney is bad now is because of the Blacks, queer, and transgenders!" Like hold up. Wut. Thank you for not being that.
I enjoyed the movie for what it was…a Disney film full of singing, dancing, good guy, bad guy, betrayal, lust for power, control, family, love, loyalty, teamwork, and a celebration of hope for a better place for all. People don’t just go to the movies anymore for fun… now it’s critic this and critic that. How about just enjoying a movie for what it is…a piece of fiction artwork created for entertainment purposes only! Much love!!!❤😊
My sister got tickets to Wish 3D. Definitely made for a better experience and enhanced the animation especially. I think the overall movie was meh but I found enjoyment out of spending time with my sister and cousin and the 3D effect
Asha should've really been related to Magnifico because then the stakes would've been so much higher! Also, we were robbed of a love interest! His name is Starboy and he would've been amazing!!
I haven't seen it but then again I haven't seen many Disney films this decade. I wonder if someone like me who knows nothing about Disney tropes would see it differently? I would have nothing to compare it to. I'm thinking movies aimed toward children take this into account.
Sigh, this is gonna be yet another Disney movie I wait to see until I'm on a long haul flight and it's included in the in-flight movies. I ditched Disney+ many moons ago. And I'm super disappointed by both of these things.
I think a perfect Disney 100 Anniversary Movie would've been Hansel and Gretel. It's perfect for the Holidays, appeals to boys and girls. There's so much to build on with Hansel and Gretel. Missed opportunity.
It looked cute and had potential, like learning not all wishes SHOULD come true and not becoming a people pleaser since it ends up hurting you. (Ex: granting everyone’s wishes to the point you are exhausted and realize you can never make others happy and fulfilled with all your effort) but it was written like a conservative made a movie of what they pictured liberals liked to mock them.
Why didn't they animate it the way Klous was? That would've been a beautiful way to marry the nostalgia of 2d animation with the technical prowess and speed together!
Such a miss opportunity how Disney could've went back to their original 2d animation with the technology we have now for their anniversary(I get your opinion with how they could've went back to the traditional methods and i also thought its a good idea, but then i imagine that new animators are not gonna be well trained with that method, cause that method is no joke very difficult, and it also would limit what new things they could show). They could've celebrated where they started of and also show how far they've come with their animation, because their 2d is already beautiful as it is but imagine what more they could've done with the technology we have now, great example of this was their recently release clip of Tiana. I heard the reason why Tianas hair is tied up for the majority of the movie is because it's hard to animate her curly hair at that time, but that clip shows that they could definitely do it now, imagine what more they could add. Also it would've been a great transition to go back to 2d animation which alot of people are thinking should be the right move for Disney, and what better way to introduce this big change than to do it on their anniversary
Do you know who is the 39:48 Disney villain that promised dreams is just to crush them? Ursula!and to just try to achieve that you had to pay a huge price,like selling your voice for example,or basically your soul,and you risked being transformed into a sort of a plant and being held prisoner forever by her in this status..and you want me to make me believe King Magnifico is bad as Ursula?
I have an idea for a better villain arc. He's a dictator still and starts out in power but he uses the wishes to find dissidents and lock them up. Then he wipes the memories of everyone who knew them to keep himself in power. That would truly be evil.
I’ve seen old concepts where Magnifico and Amaya were both the villains, where Star wasn’t a tiny plushie thing but instead a shape-shifting boy Asha was going to fall in love with, and honestly *every* other concept was better than what we got.
I'm not into romance but romance is also one of the important elements in Disney movies, at least most Disney movies had it before Frozen.
That concept sounds soo much better
We could have gotten an evil Disney couple? The cosplayers Disney! Think of the cosplayers!
That would've been SO COOL! An evil couple?! Honestly, the entire concept sounds better than the movie we got. I hate the design of the star. It's so...boring. Uninspired.
Ugh that sounds WAY better than what we got a classic Disney romance and then he could turn back into a star at the end so Asaha doesn’t have to end up with him at the end. Or something but what we got was so safe
I think one of the biggest issues with Disney is that they're focusing too much on the live action remakes. Puss in Boots the Last Wish was a great family film. Jack Horner is totally an alagorie for Disney. The magic is fading but other studios are saving animation.
Those live action remakes are terrible too, for the most part. I wish they would stop making them altogether and get back to making good movies like Puss In Boots The Last Wish. I totally agree that other studios are totally leaving them in the dust at this point, and it's their own fault.
@@MothGirl007Agreed. At first, I thought the live-action remakes could be a good idea if they were as different as Cinderella and continued to make animated movies like Princess and the Frog and Tangled. But nope. With very few exceptions, their films have been devoid of creativity and heart. I personally blame the studio heads, not the creatives. It’s heartbreaking.
but Big Jack has no magic...
...oh wait.....
Ya know, I used to think the Cinderella slander was true UNTIL you realize Cinderella is actually an ABUSE victim that didnt let her abuse stop her from being kind and caring for others. Cinderella had a personality and kindness
Exactly! I don’t think she gets gudged fairly
As an abuse victim, I identify strongly with Cinderella - and I've heard a lot of other survivors say so, too. She gets a bad rap.
A lot of the ways the older Disney princesses are characterized are lies. Namely, they are accused of having no agency or personality when they did. Snow White was kind and naive but she was NOT a pushover to the dwarves. She was willing to scold and tease them even as a guest in their house. She had a lot of personality. Even Aurora, who had very little screentime, and her storyline which involves being lied to about her plight and being entranced by Malificent (both of which remove agency by no fault of her own), was shown to have some personality when she shows she is wise to the fairies' lies to get her out of the house and is shown to have a weak resolve in her interaction with the prince due to her shelteredness. She is given a lot of personality and characterization of positive and negative traits in such a short time.
People ignore that the dwarves didn't just let Snowwhite stay at their house, she offered them a service in exchange of shelter, with her cleaning their house serving as early payment, and she cooking for them was another deal she made for them, in which she only asked for them to wash their hands as trade, something only Grumpy refused, and was soon hilariously reprimanded for being filthy and rude
She didn't get the respect of the dwarves for doing nothing, she helped them, they helped her back, and she even eventually earned the trust of Grumpy so much he was the frontrunner when the evil queen poisoned Snowwhite, and was hit the hardest for the tragedy
Completely agree! Everyone forgets that Snow White, a tiny 14 year old girl, was nearly stabbed to death while just picking some flowers on a VERY rare day off, and then told to run for her life into the WOODS, with no supplies, no warning, nothing but the clothes on her back.
She was rightfully scared out of her mind! But very quickly, she took hold of the situation, and her own mental health. If the one thing that would make her feel like she could go on living was to sing a cutesy song with some birds, then that’s what she was going to do.
And after that, she found the dwarves’ house and immediately set to work making it nice for them so they’d let her stay. That was some good strategizing. She used what she was good at, her unique strengths, and survived. Of course cooking and cleaning was her strength, it was all her stepmother ever let her do!
And she was very much a motherly figure to the seven of them, and wasn’t afraid to let them know her opinions. And of course she was dreaming of the handsome prince, he was probably one of the few kind people in her whole life, and, again, she was only 14!
So yeah. I’ve always been impressed by Snow White; I watched her movie a million times growing up and when I rewatched it as an adult it really hit me how misunderstood she was.
@@cellytron Exactly! And her relationship with the animals wasn't JUST for the "cute" moment; for Snow White (and Aurora) it helped highlight how alone and friendless they really were. Snow White's "Whistle While You Work" is a song about making the best of things in spite of the situation. It was literally about singing to help you get chores done, but it's also an allegory for the broader mindset she has about the dire situation that is her life. She's a girl in exile who KNOWS she will be killed if she is found, but she still tries to find or make happy moments to get her through it so that she doesn't give up and despair.
What I find so ironic about Wish is how it’s whole message is about pursuing your dreams and taking the risk even if the dream is “dangerous”.
Yet they completely play it safe and restrict themselves. They don’t wanna push past the boundaries which made the film so mid.
In a way, King Magnifico kind of represents the higher ups of Disney since he doesn’t let anyone try something new and stick to what is tradition💀
I think this film runs into the same problem that Chicken Little had. It's creating a checklist and trying to cash in on other successful films without realizing what made those films successful. I think this film could have worked if they just committed to what they wanted to do, but they let popular opinion sway them and it comes off feeling restricted.
To Disney, I want to say this: do your own thing. Don't let people dictate what you want to do, and give more creative freedom. Make more films like Meet the Robinsons, Bolt, Lilo and Stitch, and The Emperor’s New Groove. Surprise me. Interest me. They don't have to be 10/10 films, but they have to be good and interesting.
If you're wondering why indie animation is taking off, it's because of this reason.
I just read so fast when scrolling down the comment section that I briefly only reacted to the word "chicken" which reminds me of that recent South Park special!
All mah homies hate Chicken Little.
What movie did chicken little do that to?
Because "strange world" was more woke garbage and we the audience are tired of being preached at by a damn movie. @@myveryowndisneyroom
@@elijahalward-vb1pn Chicken Little was a rip off of Shrek. This is what they meant by, "It's creating a checklist and trying to cash in on other successful films without realizing what made those films successful."
Ghibli's "The Boy and the Heron" is the type and quality of film, Disney's 100 year anniversary film should have been like.
It pisses me off that Wish is such a bland movie.
Studio Ghibli consistently creates films that are superior to Disney's and is in a whole other realm, imho. I just wish Disney could at least aspire to be in the same league with them, but it hasn't happened in a long time.
well, that movie did come out after ghibli released their own 3d bomb, plus miyazaki came out of retirement (again) to personally direct it.
@@nanonano2595 I am probably the only person who likes that movie. Ironically, *Earwig and the Witch* is the exact opposite of *Howl's Moving Castle* in terms of creative approach despite both being based off of books written by the late Diana Wynn Jones.
I think it's just too much of a departure from what people expect from Ghibli flims in story, tone, and animation. It rubs people the wrong way and I think that if it wasn't, "A Ghibli Movie," it wouldn't have the bad wrap it does. There are probably other reasons too, but I think that's the big stickler.
The fact that the concepts are better than the actual finished product is crazy 😭😭 like the star was going to be a shapeshifter and the king and queen would be an evil couple??
That would’ve made Asha and the star a great foil to them. Show a type of evil man and evil woman, and then show the opposite in the female protagonist and love interest
A problem with the villain, is that they gave him a wife.
The problem with giving a villain a loving wife that is also a good person is that then you have someone that cares deeply for that person and has to confront the heart-shattering reveal that said person is a villain and has to see the said person, whom they had given their love to, and who probably loved them back, suffer the consequences.
It wouldnt be a terrible idea but you would need excellent writting in order to pull off such an intense emotional moment, and yet from the spoilers Ive heard, the writers just ignored it as if Amaya and Magnifico had never loved each other.
Disney is afraid to make villains bad.
They are either misunderstood or lashing out because of hurt. Although this does make good storytelling it needs to be told be a very good story teller.
If someone told me this done by AI I would not be surprised
I've seen the movie, ( spoilers, spoilers spoilers)
its not that they act like she never loved each other it's..... just not enough time to convey the depths of her emotions. She has a change of heart off screen after he uses the evil book and immediately almost kills her just for slightly implying she agreed with the hero ( but he's cursed, so his personality has been forcefully changed ), shows up to the hero to announce she's helping betray the king in a musical number ( that cannot at all convey the heartache this must cause her ). And then very soon after she begs them to check if the spell he's under can be broken, the book says he's evil forever sorry, and she's like " oh well, he brought this on himself " and then she kind of has some oddly lighthearted banter with him after he's defeated that has the vibe of " Oh, you~ take this scamp to the dungeon ". There's a slight twinge of girl power " girl you're too good for him " energy there, but really the two had such good chemistry when they were in love you really just kind of feel bad that the hero effectively caused her divorce to happen lmao.
Funny enough a villain who has a loving wife is such a good plot point to have.
@@abc.6223 thanks for clarifying.
Like I said I havent seen the film ( and not sure if I want to now), but still this feels like very lazy writting.
Even so it would have been very simple to just make him a court wizard with either, no romantic attachments to the queen, or as someone that was trying to pine for her affections but whom she, despite admiring him, was just not into.
@@abc.6223 that's so odd. In a movie about wishes for everyone, why couldn't his wife wish him back? breaks their own rules.
If you can't make a movie with Ariana Debose, Chris Pine, the two directors of Frozen as director and screenwriter on a budget of $200 million with an actual Disney villain and song work, it leaves me to wonder what the hell the point of this movie even was. How do you somehow screw that all up?
Disney had an open goal on this one and they fucked it up with the same stupidity...AGAIN.
All the experienced, talented people have been driven out and replaced with tick box hires to promote the propaganda. Movies are just vehicles to propagate the ideology.
I hated the side characters designs... It did not feel disney. Dahlia's visual design pissed me off. They are TEENS and she looks like a woman in her 30s? With this horrible haircut, dress and the colour scheme?? Asha and Dahlia do not look like friends of the same age, they look like an older woman being a mentor to Asha. And overall her design annoys me, idk why. I think coz she looks so eh?
Wait wait wait, SHE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A TEENAGER?!
@hibikuokudan yeah she's part of " the teens" team, and if I understand correctly, didn't get her wish, that they give away at 18. So, yeah she's at the oldest 17...
I guess so I couldn't really tell. They all looked like adults and not teenagers. @@hibikuokudan
@RedRoseSeptember22 Asha is 17 years old and her friends are "The Teens" team. I was sure they are all adults before the final trailers as well.
Is she the asian with glasses? It's the lower placement of the glasses that ages her appearance.. it's giving 'wise grandma'
I study animation, and when it comes to the technical issues, especially two scenes caught my eye. First one, when Magnifico change the dude into a knight, the background behind the columns was plain color. Blue/orange combo, but plain color. Not even a hint of clouds. That came out so lazy, aswell as the second scene, where Asha is on the tree, the sea in the background is not even moving. Sea...not moving. What the hell Disney? Also an amount of scenes with central composition, and the scenes with characters seen from the side (aka: the most boring shot possible) is HUGE. Storyboards for this movie must have been made by interns (no shame, everyone starts somewhere, however if we are not capable of making a compelling story yet, we should get help from experienced people who correct our mistakes...). Also the light was sometimes so off, like it's supposed to help guide you through a movie, but some choices were just so weird. Same for color...remember Hades' or Scar's color settings? all dark, with a slight hint of color, very dramatic, and here? Magnifico comes out like My Little Pony, surrounded mostly by pink/purple/white colors. Even if he didn't start out as totally evil, a foreshadowing with color wouldn't hurt. This movie is so meh...
Disney has had a weird on/off problem is scene lighting/composition for a while now. Idk why, might be the personal preference of one of the executives. See Avengers endgame, for example, the lighting, scenes and tones were so bleh, grey, messy and muddy.
Encanto still at least tried, so I can only assume someone, somewhere had to deliberately meddle with wish to make its scene planning worse.
This is not a hybrid, mix nor a fusion between 2D and 3D animation. It's a medium mimic and trying to be something it's not. It's just a cheap unfinished cel-shading filter which is not a hybrid, mix nor fusion between the two techniques. It's just 3D models adding some outlines with limited use of color, shadows and lighting. That's why it look cheap like a PS2 graphics as well as it's a common cheap technique amongst mass-produced children's shows that you don't require much effort for.
A true 2D and 3D hybrid/mix/fusion would look something like Roger Rabbit (but with CGI), Maui's animated tattoos or the Pixar's short Paperman. There could be various of creative directions and diverse outcomes by fusing/mixing/hybridize between 2D and 3D.
While Spiderverse did try to look like a comic book at appropriate times but was more aware surrounded it (maybe because comic books are a completely different medium) as well as doing its own thing with being much more experimental with various of art and animation styles. It looks better because they heavily tweaked the outlines and the models so that it would fit the stylized scenes and perspectives to avoid looking like a typical stiff cel-shaded video game graphics too. As well as they had much more effort and care than Wish.
THANK YOU! Everyone claiming it’s a hybrid has been driving me crazy. It’s a fucking shader and it’s not even a complex one. Not anywhere near the ballpark of Spiderverse or the new Puss In Boots. The early marketing really sold people on a concept for the art direction that this movie does not even touch.
It won’t come out until December for me in Japan, but my partner and I plan on seeing it (in Japanese since he doesn’t speak English lol). A lot of your complaints about the animation is the same concerns I had when I saw the trailer. So it makes me sad the animation wasn’t improved before release. As a side note, I think Miyazaki’s new movie “How is it to Live” (I think the English title is something like “The Boy and the Heron” maybe) is coming out in America soon and if you want a spectacular version of a celebration of an animator’s style, that movie legit brought tears to my eyes. I highly recommend trying to see it if it’s in a theatre near you.
I’m very much looking forward to the boy and the heron
@@Brittney_Reacts_ Same!
Thank you for your recommendation. I will
You know what I want? A 2D Disney movie in the style of that 70s Barbie Month commercial. A princess film at that. It abandons their overly realistic in-house design in favor of something fresh. That style of character design with Disney level animation, wouldn’t that be neat?
Also, I want Dan Povenmire and Jeff “Swampy” Marsh to do an original animated theatrical movie for Disney, princess or not. Their shows at DTVA proves they’re more than capable of doing an animated movie for Disney.
yess!! and can i just add for the 2D animation i think if they add animals the animator for those could be Aaron Blaise! he worked on the Brother Bear movies and a few others i cant recall, hes an amazing animator and i would love to see him do more work. Although im not sure if he still works at disney, but if he does and they do decide to create a 2D animated movie like you say (very unlikely) i would love to see him work on it.
Do you have the link of the commercial? c:
Problem is Disney doesn't have a 2d studio anymore. I have met a couple of the guys who were working there when they closed it. The 2d shows are outsourced to other countries. They don't want to spend the money or the time on something they think is a dead medium.
Asha needed to be the female equivalent to Kuzco from the Emperor’s New Groove, having her start out as selfish in the beginning and becoming a better person by the end. Or imagine she did something similar to Maui from Moana, snuck in and stole her grandfather’s wish with the intention of making come true only to find out it was so vague a wish that it would bring ruin to the kingdom.
The "limitation of camera movement" excuse for not using 2D is just lazy as hell. You could just do almost anything to 2D so long you have effort and care such as in Roger Rabbit. Reusing models and put a cel-shaded filter on it trying to be something it's not is just lazy and distracting.
It's like arguing photographs are more superior than paintings because you can just snap a photo and make it look like a painting by some photoshop filters in less than a hour without need to studying perspectives and color theory.
Bruh I think they forgot about the ballroom scene in beauty and the beast. That sh!t still brings tears to my eyes and I’ve seen it 1000 times. Even hunchback of Norte Dame has great movement, in the parade scene. Don’t even get me started on Studio Ghilbi 😅
The problem is Disney really doesn't have anyone who knows 2D anymore and they're not putting any effort into actually finding people who do.
Remember the Mary Poppins Returns fiasco and how the 2D sequence for that was a task and a half not because of the idea, but because they had not enough people available to do it which almost fucked it over.
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid Yeah, I suspected that too and they could just be honest about not finding animators who knows the 2D techniques rather than blaming the art form itself. I knew a ton of young 2D animators like myself eager to work for Disney which is just sad. Maybe they just don't want to hire more people because they are struggling economically right now? Although they keep digging themselves deeper in their graves keep doing bad decisions.
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid they would have to hire japanese animators, but the end result might have a lot more panty shots and laser beams flying around.
maybe that would make it better, idk.
@@EmiL_from_NieRor Tarzan swinging through the trees with ease.
Disney just feels like a cowardly company afraid of offending people. They constantly feel like they have to atone for something, represent someone or neuter themselves instead of saying something interesting. Truly psychotic villains are part of what made Disney so exciting and it's sorely missing now
Well yeah, people are their shareholders/investors... If they get offended they might sell off their stock and invest their money elsewhere.... (Corporate drones are terrified of risk, and anything even remotely interesting carries risk.)
The song tone sounds in reverse. The protagonist song (Knowing What We Know Now) sounds like an antagonist song and the antagonist song (This is the Thanks I Get?) sounds like the protagonist song. Weird.
The writers of the 1992 Aladdin wisely placed limitations on wishes...this discourages any misuse or abuse of such power... However, current Disney got Unlimited wishes.... the power was misused and abused..now look at sorry mess Disney is now in.
Magnifico isn't evil. Period. Not all wish should be granted; IRL people wish for bad/selfish things all the time ('God Help the Outcasts' from Hunchback made a clear reference to this), but I guess in the naive world of Neo-Disney, everybody wishes for sweets, sprinkles, and sunshine all the time. Although he shouldn't have appointed himself the determiner of which wish should be granted, doesn't make him bad. Asha and the townspeople had nothing against only select wishes being granted, until they realised the chances of THEIRS being granted are very small, like wth?! This speaks a lot about their anti-dictatorship messaging that just feels so jarring and executed poorly; they could've made instead of granting wishes that are good for the town, he granted those that clearly benefit him instead though morally wrong like real-life politicians. This would've fix problems both regarding the real nature of wishes and political corruption.
The fact that magnifico took people’s wishes and led them on some false hope that one day their wish would be granted is already bad. When you also take into account that he doesn’t fully explain how those people who give up their wish lose a part of themselves, he becomes even worse. Asha clearly explains how if the wishes were bad, they should be stopped, but in the movie, magnifico was villainizing innocent wishes because he wanted to keep them for himself, thus making the people of rosas ignorant and lost. Asha discovered that magnifico wouldn’t even consider returning the wishes to the people, and that’s truly when she started to push against the whole wish ceremony thing, because it showed that magnifico was content in keeping the people of rosas around his finger. Magnifico is absolutely evil, especially knowing that he intentionally resorted to forbidden/dark magic just to keep his power :/
@@bringbackthedarkness Lol and then Asha goes on to play Magnifico 2.0 by granting the wishes of only a select princesses and ignoring those of billions of others whose stories are not worth making into a disney film 😂
@@orcinus2104 this is a disney film, what are you talking about 💀 we can safely assume that Asha will follow what she said: if needed, grant the wishes of those who ask as long as they are not harmful. I don’t know how that is anywhere near magnifico 2.0. I also don’t know why you’re talking about her ignoring billions of others when that has nothing to do with the story and truthfully, it isn’t her job to fix EVERY single problem. It seems like you didn’t really watch the movie and are hating for no reason lmfao
@@orcinus2104she probably did but it's not the focus
It seems disney forgets about Aladdin and Kazaam.
Also they should of brought back Alan Menken or even the lopez couple. Randy Newman who did princess and the frog, cars and toy story?
To me I think the villain should have leaned into his strength! It isn't that he's a weak villain, it's that he's a complicated villain. In any other story that would be a wonderful thing, but their obsession with trying to frame him like a "classic disney villain" stripped him of his potential to be a morally gray, well intentioned extremist. He has ALL this setup showing that he's actually a very complex person with a tragic past and a loving wife and clearly, based on that one song, some kind of passion for protecting people. Frame him like an over protective, coddling provider, maybe even keep his vain personality and make him someone that doesn't realize that his desire to be seen as a competent and successful king ( spurred on by his history of watching his family's kingdom fall ) has gotten in the way of his own principles and have him realize that. BUT they can't do that, because that would be yet another redeemable, modern villain, and its very clear to me that they kind of swooped in at the last minute to afflict him with the evil-ification beam and make him literally irredeemable by the rule of magic.
So the same problem as many other elements in the film - trying to be too many different things at once. Instead of picking a direction and doing it well, it tried to incorporate all the references, tropes, style variations, etc., which makes the film confused and underwhelming instead of nostalgic, innovative, engaging, or thought provoking.
The fact that Britney even has said nicer things about the little mermaid live action compared to Wish.. it's pretty telling
Not sure if anyone has thought this but though I agree that the characters look bad or not "finished" in some scenes, I think I may know what they were going for. I thought of this as I rewatched Snow White after this film. In those older 2D films, characters were flat by design with all of their colors one solid piece without any textures. The backgrounds however were fully rendered and shaded with hand-painted pieces. In this film, the backgrounds are given the same watercolor painted style, and the characters have very basic but simple textures and shadowing. So maybe they were trying to give it that old vibe just using 3D models. It didn't exactly land well but I can kind of see what they were aiming for.
Whenever I think of "celebrations of Disney animation" I always think of Fantasia 2000. I used to watch that on repeat because I found it so beautiful and enchanting to watch and much of the film has little to no dialogue!! But it's all so gorgeous!!! That's what Wish SHOULD have been! Not...whatever this is...
*_"Disney Has Lost Its Magic"_*
And in OTHER breaking news:
*"WATER WET, SKY BLUE, FIRE HOT"*
Disney may lied of the return of 2d. The worst thing is that wish was supposed to be made in 2d. But they switched to 3d animation like the princess sofia.
Crushing a dream will not scare a kid, what are Disney doing here? They should of kept the spoiled prince angle and started with a silent montage of Magnifico and his brother, the king, overshadowing him as they grew. Brother says, "I'm proud of you" and makes him wish granter. Magnifico searches for his brothers dream for a peaceful kingdom and crushes it. King forgets his dream and there's unrest. Until Magnifco wishes to be the king of a perfect empire and locks his brother away. Everyone is unquestioningly loyal to Magnifico... except for Asha who CARES TOO MUCH so she sets out on her adventure to figure out why he would abandon his kingdom. Now crushing the dream is scary and matters and her flawlessness has a purpose.
That is a movie I'd watch!
Saberspark has said this before: there's "good" bad, and then there's "bad" bad... but the absolute WORST thing you can do is be forgettable. If this movie is FORGETTABLE... 6/10 is generous it seems. 💀 Watched Dazz's review as well and he said that the theatre he went into was dead quiet and it was filled with CHILDREN. So according to him, this movie isn't even "watchable". That's sad but honestly I'm happy about it because Disney needs to be humbled a bit. They can take a loss, and I lowkey hope the next movie continues their fall off because they deserve it. Hate that they're taking Pixar down with them, though. Scared for Inside Out 2...
It had potential to be good, but Disney decided they had to go for an approach to the concept that was very "safe" and boring. It just didn't click for me
I saw Wish yesterday and I honestly thought it doesn't deserve all the hate I've been hearing from critics, however I also agree improvements could have been made. Its not a stellar Disney flick like I hoped, but it wasn't awful either. Many things about it were still pretty good and I found enjoyable, mainly Ariana's singing and Chris Pine's over the top performance! The movie's job was mainly supposed to be a big nod to all of Disney's animated films and I feel like the movie did its job, but the down side of that is that it struggles with being its own story and hitting the high mark Disney is known for because of nodding to the past so much.
It sucked.
"Its not a stellar Disney flick like I hoped, but it wasn't awful either"
"it struggles with being its own story and hitting the high mark Disney is known for"
The "worst movie ever" stuff is always over-the-top and obnoxious, but you're not exactly selling the movie as being worth watching yourself. Most reviews are that it's uninspired and blandly acceptable, which is how your own review reads.
I agree. I took my 3 year old and 5 year old and they love it. I liked it as well. There was a lot of emotion and the songs were nice. It won't hold up to recent hits like encanto or frozen but it was enjoyable and kids will love it 😊
@@vlo4829 you didn’t read the comment. It doesn’t hit the stellar high mark Disney is known for for sure because of its focus on reflecting on all the past films. On the side, the film did have some good elements. A ton of media out there isn’t good or bad either so that’s nothing new and reviewing them isn’t that simple. That’s not hard to understand, but whatever.
@@9rbloomer836 I did read the comment, and your description doesn't exactly sell it. That's not hard to understand, but whatever.
Someday the magic will return again, after all Disney has been through dark periods like this before, and they always come back to form in one way or another.
The male characters have that typical schnozz to accentuate how unique and kind hearted people they are, typical disney formula. Girls are cute and guys have big nose
When it comes to wish themed kids movies, Puss in Boots: The Last Wish did it better in just about every way.
If they wanted to make the villian evil they could have pretended like he was gonna grant the grandpa's wish, called him in for an audience and CRUSHED the wish in front of him.
"And this is the thanks I get..."
I feel like this was AI based on Twitter and Tumblr. It wouldnt surprise me if it was done by AI. It just seems soulless. It should work logically but it lacks heart and passion.
Disney needs to accepy passion takes time and cant be rushed or factory made.
you know whats sad, even if you ask a kid to come up a story based on this movie's concept, they would have made that far more entertaining and colorful than current Disney could ever create.
Yeah I’ve said it before just from the trailer but the donkey looked like it was just put in so they can sell it has merch after lol “Oh look at this funny cute donkey, he doesn’t do much in the film, but he’s cute, buy it!” It just feels like that to me 😆
The star too, obviously they plan to milk out the merch from it
Goat not donkey* lmao 😆
Man, why am I always late to these?! Anyway, it's a shame that Wish has bombed so badly. When I heard about it a year ago I got super hopeful! It's so sad that I was let down. But what do you expect from modern Disney? Such a shame... I want them to be good so I can enjoy their movies again. But I genuinely think Disney has lost its magic spark. RIP, I guess.
Sometimes I just think we adults just haven’t realized we have outgrown children movies. When I watch old movies I just don’t get that feeling I use too. Sometimes I even question why was I even so obsessed with this movie. I believe our opinions are biased because we are comparing old movies to today movies
When I was a kid my mom would say some of my favorite shows and movies were corny and boring and now I as an adult say the same for some of the Disney shows and movies today.
The concept art for this movie looks so much better. Makes me wonder how much of the meh we got was because of studio interference. It wouldn't be the first time with Disney.
I haven't seen Wish, and I don't really plan to, but the fact of the matter is, when Radcliffe of all people is more interesting than your villain, you have a major problem that needs correcting immediately. After all, at least Radcliffe, as boring and basic as his motives were, tried to kill and incite violence against the Powhattan characters.
That and David Ogden Stiers was PHENOMENAL as his voice. Man, I miss him.
Remember, it's the PEOPLE that make disney. We don't have those great legends anymore. For whatever number of reasons. So yeah, OF COURSE thus was written in the stars to fail. P.S..I saw it yesterday and yes I too think this sucked...
Yeah I think the problem with this female protagonist is that she has some things from the others but lacks what makes the others work. Anna clearly is taking the wrong decisions as a result of the fallen bond with her sister, Rapunzel literally escapes captivity, and Mirabel is her family's black sheep and outcast. So this female character needed either an actual flaw to overcome OR something outside of her control that poses a challenge or brings about change for her. And from what I gather the plot about wishes isn't very strong or effective at that, like it doesn't even seem to have ANYTHING to do with her personally.
13:57 Even Spilling The Milk noticed that (FYI Brittany it's a reaction channel with 3 men) when Eden said "in 2023 all the movies that made a boatload of money tried something new including Barbie." And for some reason they included the Mario movie The Mario movie didn't try anything new it still has the same art style as every 3D Disney movie and it had no plot and no character development of any kind the only reason it made that much money is because it has an enormous fanbase.
I agree. They should have been bold and just done a totally 2D film for the 100 Years celebration.
Allegedly, an animator who worked on 'Wish' came out and said Disney made them render the movie before it was finished, which would make a lot of sense as to why the animation seems off.
I watched Wish last night, and here's my long review. TLDR: I have never seen such a complete Meh of a movie from Disney in my life. Even Chicken Little was better.
Magnifico was dumb, and went villain WAY too fast. He had like 2 minutes of speaking, one song, and then boom, villain arc unlocked. The not-dwarves were dumb, mostly pointless, and I couldn't tell you Grumpy, Happy, Bashful, Dopey, or Sneezy's actual names. Sleepy's turn didn't make sense and came out of nowhere. Happy and Bashful were completely pointless, could have been completely removed, and nothing would have changed. Doc was the only one that moved the story to any real degree. Sleepy kinda did, but he could have been replaced by any generic evil sidekick. It didn't have to be Sleepy.
The goat was annoying, could have been removed, and nothing would have changed. Other Disney Princess sidekicks had at least one moment where they did something of consequence, like the mice getting Cinderella's dress pieces, being her horses, and getting her key. Valentino added NOTHING.
Why did an all powerful mage who can move things without even moving his hands be stopped by a bookcase falling on him long enough for a middle aged woman and a 100 year old man to get away? They made him so stupid powerful that it made zero sense for him to 1) want more power and 2) for any "challenge" to be laughable cause he had to take temporary stupid pills for it to work against him. His motivation was dumb. His jump straight to "I'm being threatened!" by a light was so insanely stupid. His wife going from devoted to backstabbing in the space of a heartbeat was out of left field. She should have been shown to realizing his flaws, and playing the dutiful wife to protect herself from the beginning. When he went full villain within 7 minutes of his introduction, he surely was showing his egomaniacal tendencies long before Asha dared question him.
The music was either good or bad, no middle ground. And I don't know if they just kept repeating the music or it was just that forgettable, but I swear the good guys sang the same song at least 3 different times in the movie. The random talking animals were annoying and "quirky" more often than not. In fact, over half the characters could fall into the "quirky and adorkable" trope.
Better movie if they still wanted to do wishes: selfish girl, Asha, keeps failing when her friends need help with things. She meets a fallen star that needs to grant wishes/dreams to get back into the sky, and forcibly makes Asha help it. Through this, she sees how much she's failed people and the beauty that wishes and dreams can create, causing her to grow and change into a better person that devotes herself to helping others, ending in her being granted fairy godmother status by the stars.
Final Fantasy IX is my favorite title in that game series. I mention IX because it's full of throwbacks and easter eggs from its previous games. I didn't know that when I was twelve and played it for the first time. I dived in blind and loved everything about that game's story, even though most of its member berries went over my head. This is why good writing is essential. No amount of nostalgia can mask poorly written characters and bad storytelling. Conversely, no amount of missed easter eggs can take away from a good story.
The bad guy is "bad" just because he doesn't make everyone wish come true. And it's like everyone is entitled to force him to work to please people's desires. It really reflect current societal morals. Talented and competent person like him will be expected to take responsability of other people's lifes
Went to see Wish today just to give it a chance and OMG Disney has definitely lost their touch. This was by far the *WORST* movie I've seen from them. Not even 5 minutes in we get a song, and there were *WAY* too many songs. All the "jokes" fell flat, there wasn't enough of a story or world building. There was some definite "woke" messaging in there and it really irritated me. I'm truly sorry to have paid to see this garbage. The Whyte men were villains in the movie *rolls eyes* and yeah, it was just stupid. I didn't like any of the songs, I'm over the whole "adorkable" personality troupe with females as of the last decade or so. I f*cking *HATED* the goat, he was the worst character of all. I didn't care for the animation style either. The magic is truly gone and I'm just disheartened by it all :( I grew up with the Disney Renaissance so my standards are set pretty high. Yes I know the movie wasn't made for me or my peers and that it's intended for children, but as a Disney Renaissance child there's that sweet nostalgia my generation has with our beloved classics ♥so that's why we go to see the latest films, we're hoping for that same magic we grew up with. I'm really hoping Inside Out 2 will be good ♥
I don't think king magnifico is white
29- that is not an original idea though. We've seen it in Jafar and scar.
Not disagreeing but I want something better than a petty brother or assistant
I was so hyped for this one. It was the comeback of Disney for me. Nope. The music is simply outstanding. But i worried that we will barely explore the lore, the world that is so beautifully depicted in the artbook and having. I wished for a nice narrative complexity (not too much and no too little). They had an amazing setup for that! The villain follows a gray morality sense [not granting every wish is sensible] but theres the aspect of essentially playing God. And the immaturity of Asha being the bridge between "everyone's wish is important and should be granted" and "there must be a better way to handle this with equity". The immature view of young children vs the parental struggle of being just and fair. IT WAS RITH THERE !. But nope, the story dismisses the complexity of Magnifico by completely focusing on his over the top vanity at the end and giving the message of "you are perfect, your wish is perfect, just work on yourself realize your wish". (So focus on the self and the 'i want so i get it') Heck, there was even an opportunity for the WHOLE community to understand that not every wish can be granted but we can still be grateful with life, i dont know, anything but the simple narrative they chose!
Is as bad a narrative (for me) as the Christmas movies that have the presents disapear or something to teach that "is not the presents that make Christmas good, but friends and family" and having the protagonists getting presents anyway at the end!
There, i ranted all that i needed. Have a beautiful day everyone and happy holidays ❤
Outstanding? All the songs sucked major @$$.
It's weird to think that we had more expressive animation in the 1930's.
Another solid review, Brittney! Excited to see your channel getting bigger.
Once upon a studio the short proves that when Disney actually cares they can animate in 2d and keep creativity. Disney wants to make money they didn't care if they wanted to make a great movie they absolutely could have we need a story and not tropes and characters to sell merchandise. Wish proves Disney doesn't care about it's fans.
Ironically, Wish sounds like a Disney movie from Wish xD
Nice video 👏
Earlier today I looked the list of shows and movies that Disney has slated to release over the next coming years, and it actually made me sad. So much re-working and re-issues of old ideas. When they have a free opportunity with a blank slate to create something new with Wish they just let themselves down.
The studio has connections to Miyazaki , sadly it doesn't extend as far as watching any of his output it seems.
How old is Magnifico? How old is the kingdom of Rosas? What age was Asha's grandfather when he gave up his wish? He would've been a lot older than 18. The math ain't mathin'
King magnificent kinda reads as a less evil more powerful Gaston on paper, in that everyone loves him, his song is all about how awesome he is, and he’s in a position of authority over the public. Yet somehow the one that was just some guy with a knife felt more threatening
Ive just watched the ending credits to this film and something else has just really bugged me about this film (spoilers sort of) theyve put pictures up from other disney films and meant to be celebrating all their Disney films but theyve missed out a few films:
Meet the robinsons
The 1940s films
Black cauldron
The Rescuers
And im also pissed off theyve left out Donald and Goofy they deserved to be in the credits as well.
Honsetly everything about this film (including the credits) is just half arsed 😅 ugh xx
Black Cauldron. That poor poor movie. I honestly feel like, as much of a mess as that plot was, it was more enjoyable to me than Wish. Just because it tried something different. I’d even take Gurgi over Valentino because at least he has a character arc and impacts the story instead of just saying funny lines for no reason.
The characters look like they’re from a Sofia the First episode
Good for TV, bad for feature length film
I think the points of the king are highly being missed and were definitely missed in this review: The arch of his character is that he has created in his mind, a utopian society. When in reality, it is a dystopian society. He established Rosas to create a place that would make those who live there happy and safe, but at the expense of taking away their goals and wishes (what makes them unique and individuals). He feels that this is the right thing to do and it does indeed make his citizens happy and loyal, but it's because they are living in an "ignorance is bliss" lifestyle. It isn't until Asha discovers that he will never grant many of the wishes (the deepest desires of the citizens hearts) that what he has created in this kingdom is wrong. The king does not see it this way and says that he thinks wishes and dreams are dangerous. He sees himself as good and it isn't until he let's himself be influenced by the magic book that he truly becomes an evil and ruthless character who then discovers that not only does keeping the wishes make a "utopia", but they also give him more power when absorbed. This is important because it shows that the King never really cared about the citizens, but rather he cared about power and control more than anything else all along, even if he himself never realized that. In the third act he absorbed many of the wishes and Star himself (Asha's celestial sent guide who was sent out of her own desperation) which causes a deep grief in the citizens since they are their deepest and purest desires that will bring their lives meaning and joy. He is also seen torturing everyone with the dark magic in the climax of the film with Asha at the heart of this physical torture. I think they did really well on this villain because not only did he give that nostalgia back to original Disney baddies that we haven't seen in a while, they made him unique in that he starts off "good" with good intentions, and is oblivious to what he is doing is wrong, and when his citizens call him out on it, he then slowly becomes an evil character thirsty for power. In my opinion these dimensions made him a far more interesting characters rather than if he was "just evil for evil sake". Disney is all about wishes coming true and in this film they made that a very literal part of the story, I enjoyed it overall.
Perfectly said… I was thinking the same thing. Taking away people’s dreams without really giving them the opportunity to fulfill them is awful in and of itself. Living a life without ambition, goals, and drive in no life worth living.
Mmmm... but did they convey that well enough? Yes, you came to that conclusion and so did a few others, but overall was that something that was easily picked up or say nuanced? From what I'm hearing, not many people actually were aware of that.
Another reviewer, Saberspark who usually likes movies that the general public and critics dislike, did not mention that in his review and usually he picks up on something like that.
And that's a huge problem with modern Disney. They aren't able to tell good stories anymore. They rely to heavily on old tropes or as in the case with their remakes, they rely too heavily on stories they have told before.
Personally, I was a little interested in seeing Wish but decided against it because I haven't liked a single Disney movie in a very, very long time.
@@leileyaravencroft If I understood all of this intent, then isn't that proof that the film did its job? I mean even in this video, she literally partially states some of what I said here, but she doesn't quite put the pieces together. I don't think that's the films fault, some people just are missing the point. I've seen other viewers and people online who saw it who gave the movie a positive review and understood these points too. The movie lays out enough of the pieces to understand what I've explained in my original comment.
love watching your thoughts& conclusions since Wilma&Scooby Doo days.you're still great I really like these long discussion videos !
Disney lost its magic in the early 2000's post Renaissance era.
I know someone at Disney Research who bragged that writers' jobs were already replaced. He said that they had developed AI to generate key story beats from old IP...I wonder now if Wish is what he was referring to. :(
So many people have predicted the death of Disney I remember in the 1980s people were saying that and Disney is still here and they will be here for quite some time to come.
The more you think about the plot, the more and more that it makes no sense. I agree with most of your points too. Felt like AI written and they recycled a ton of their usual tropes
It really looks like a disney jr show i have no idea why they thoguht it looked good
It looks Disney-Channel-Cheap. It's like Sophia The First or Doc McStuffins. Disney needs to start hiring ARTISTS instead of ACTIVISTS
I'm sad that this movie got more hype than Elemental bc Elemental is severely underrated.
Steal the show alone is better than any of the wish songs
I saw it with my 3 year old and 5 year old and they loved it ☺. There were some lulls and plot holes but overall it was a very cute story. The lead actress who played Asha does a wonderful job. I also thought the songs were great 🤷♀️. I enjoyed it and my girls did. I think people are digging too deep into this because it's popular now to hate on Disney.
pop music is generally disposable: not the best direction if you're trying to get an anniversary hit [unless you think the anniversary is disposable ): ]
People crying over not having real villains and movies being about generational trauma...so far we only got three movies I remember of, I think you're rather annoyed at the villain misunderstood bit because so far the two movies did well with generational trauma. Just because you can't resonate with those movies, doesn't mean it's bad and yes i'm talking about Coco, Encanto and Turning Red. (Coco also had just a twist villain and it honestly worked)
Disney has been absolutely awful for many years, which means zero expectations for any of their stuff nowadays. Honestly, I am just enjoying the awful reviews everytime they release one of their moneysink projects.
My kids, 4&7, loved this movie. Laughed a lot throughout and wanted to hear the soundtrack as soon as we left the theater. Played with the goat toy the theater gave them all weekend.
You got the UA-cam brain rot, your expectations are all mixed up and you can’t make sense of reality.
@@roosterman84i think we can agree that just because 4 and 7 year old kids liked a film and a toy based on it doesn’t mean that an adult can’t critically find things wrong with it? We’re talking about vastly different levels of development here. As a kid I liked some real garbage, just because I was a kid with no real frame of reference.
Do you also agree that professional critics who had similar takes on the film (just look at rotten tomatoes) have “UA-cam brain rot” and “can’t make sense of reality”?
South Park warned us about memberberries in 2016. We didn't listen!
You make a great point. The best Disney movies are based on a story by a great writer. Encanto is fine, but if we’re being honest, the music MADE it good. Without it, it’s kind of a meh, inconsequential story, I can take or leave. Moana was a good story. She is literally trying to save her island and all the people on it, and the music was 10/10. They really should have gone back to the drawing board and found a great story to animate and make the music and animation where they put all their energy.
In the title there is a typo, it's "Disney lost its magic" not "it's magic" since it's just means it is
Thanks just fixed it!
Tbh I'm actually glad Disney is flopping
Cinderella has seen some sh*t. Asha don't know nothin bout that life
I feel a lot of modern villains have the issue of they can't fully be a villain. Not just Disney but in general. A villain can't be evil just for the sake of being evil. It's like studios want the villain still to be liked, even though they're the bad guy. People can like villains as characters yet still dislike them for how bad they are. People like Scar or Cruella for their cadences their personalities. Meanwhile one betrayed his brother and got him killed, and the other literally wants to kill dogs. Just let a bad guy be a bad guy and absolutely revel in it. That's where you can play up their personality more, it allows more presence.
Thank you for being one of the few commenters to rip Disney pandering without being a bigot. I've watched so many spicy takedowns that I agreed with right up to the point they go: "And the reason Disney is bad now is because of the Blacks, queer, and transgenders!" Like hold up. Wut. Thank you for not being that.
I wish Brittany would call Bob Iger and either ask to replace him as CEO or maybe ask to direct the next Disney movie.
I enjoyed the movie for what it was…a Disney film full of singing, dancing, good guy, bad guy, betrayal, lust for power, control, family, love, loyalty, teamwork, and a celebration of hope for a better place for all. People don’t just go to the movies anymore for fun… now it’s critic this and critic that.
How about just enjoying a movie for what it is…a piece of fiction artwork created for entertainment purposes only! Much love!!!❤😊
Something about this movie just felt so basic. Like, meant specifically for children kind of basic.
Saw it and yeah, it’s not great, but not deserving of the full on hate it’s getting. It just seemed to me like a Disney movie on autopilot.
My sister got tickets to Wish 3D. Definitely made for a better experience and enhanced the animation especially. I think the overall movie was meh but I found enjoyment out of spending time with my sister and cousin and the 3D effect
Asha should've really been related to Magnifico because then the stakes would've been so much higher! Also, we were robbed of a love interest! His name is Starboy and he would've been amazing!!
I haven't seen it but then again I haven't seen many Disney films this decade. I wonder if someone like me who knows nothing about Disney tropes would see it differently?
I would have nothing to compare it to. I'm thinking movies aimed toward children take this into account.
Sigh, this is gonna be yet another Disney movie I wait to see until I'm on a long haul flight and it's included in the in-flight movies. I ditched Disney+ many moons ago. And I'm super disappointed by both of these things.
I feel like once inside out 2 comes out Disney will be alive once more
I think a perfect Disney 100 Anniversary Movie would've been Hansel and Gretel. It's perfect for the Holidays, appeals to boys and girls. There's so much to build on with Hansel and Gretel. Missed opportunity.
It looked cute and had potential, like learning not all wishes SHOULD come true and not becoming a people pleaser since it ends up hurting you. (Ex: granting everyone’s wishes to the point you are exhausted and realize you can never make others happy and fulfilled with all your effort) but it was written like a conservative made a movie of what they pictured liberals liked to mock them.
More like how liberals like to mock conservatives.
Why didn't they animate it the way Klous was? That would've been a beautiful way to marry the nostalgia of 2d animation with the technical prowess and speed together!
Such a miss opportunity how Disney could've went back to their original 2d animation with the technology we have now for their anniversary(I get your opinion with how they could've went back to the traditional methods and i also thought its a good idea, but then i imagine that new animators are not gonna be well trained with that method, cause that method is no joke very difficult, and it also would limit what new things they could show). They could've celebrated where they started of and also show how far they've come with their animation, because their 2d is already beautiful as it is but imagine what more they could've done with the technology we have now, great example of this was their recently release clip of Tiana. I heard the reason why Tianas hair is tied up for the majority of the movie is because it's hard to animate her curly hair at that time, but that clip shows that they could definitely do it now, imagine what more they could add. Also it would've been a great transition to go back to 2d animation which alot of people are thinking should be the right move for Disney, and what better way to introduce this big change than to do it on their anniversary
Do you know who is the 39:48 Disney villain that promised dreams is just to crush them? Ursula!and to just try to achieve that you had to pay a huge price,like selling your voice for example,or basically your soul,and you risked being transformed into a sort of a plant and being held prisoner forever by her in this status..and you want me to make me believe King Magnifico is bad as Ursula?
If Disney don't just go back to goddamn 2d hand drawn movies , I'm gonna scream
I have an idea for a better villain arc. He's a dictator still and starts out in power but he uses the wishes to find dissidents and lock them up. Then he wipes the memories of everyone who knew them to keep himself in power. That would truly be evil.