Purging a lot is actually better than worse, because it clears the nozzle from the residue and trash. The total ammount is not significant in the end,, but allows for a better print quality after the filament swap
Bambu purge, Creality Purge, Elegoo Purge, Ankermake Purge, and Anycubic Purge about 1/2 or less of the Purge amount. I get it about the clearing of old filament but how much is too much? In my personal opinion 250mm is OVERKILL. 50mm to 100mm is usually fine for purging enough to clear the filament. The 5M filament path from the top of the printhead to the nozzle tip is only 18.3mm.
@hypocritical7379 And the 280c Max Temp on Nozzle that's about it. It's an Amazing printer and it's cheaper than most core XY machines out there (usable ones anyway).
Maybe the difference is to compensate for the 0.4 nozzle. I use the 0.4 and unless I really get in there and cut as close to the end as I can I don't have much of the new filament coming out before it stops. You can see the change and about one length to the table of the new filament. I'm just thinking a larger diameter 0.6/0.8 would clear the old filament out faster and you would see more of the new filament before it finishes. It also has a longer heating area in the nozzle than most.
@@3DandTeePrinting ohh the poop was just the cherry on the top, The rip out the ptfe tube and cut the filament was like thafck... An engineer sad its good enough and sent it as a final solution... It's just... Sad... I swap filaments all the time, idk how long that would last in my hands...
Doubt it was the Engineers decision. More than likely a cost cutting exercise. I have the machine, it's absolutely awesome, but the filament change process sucks. I don't mind the filament purge so much, but having to pull out and cut is annoying. The rest of the stuff can be worked around. Spool holder is on the side via 3d printed spool holder, and smart power plug allows me to turn it on and off with a smart button. @@blackrul3z
I just bought one of these (5m pro), glad to see most of these issues are things that wont bother me, just wanted something as close to plug n print as possible
All true. $300 for a printer that rivaled way more expensive ones and it was dummy proof. With my ender 3 i had piles of plastic spaghetti and fails all over. With this one, i just got printing perfect pieces. I spent more time leveling or attempting to level my ender 3 than i did printing
You and my wife share the same feelings. She has all these printers to choose from and she loves the simplicity of the 5M. She used to love the P1P. Now is 5M unless it's already printing.
I have the adventurer 5M pro and I don’t mind the screen it can be finicky at times I actually kind of like the UI but you can actually disable the start up sound and the sounds in general by going to the settings and disabling sound (but I do agree I don’t like the start up sounds and stuff). I am not sure if it any different UI wise between the 5M and 5M Pro but tbh I don’t entirely get how the loading/ replacement process is weird except the awful back mounted spool holder that every dang printer seems to have now and is incredibly annoying . Honestly I wonder why they even put it on the back? So it’s pretty? So you cant see the filament spool because it’s ugly? Is it an attempt to save on space???
I feel like the 5M or at least the PRO version should at least have a Retract setting for unloading. Every other printer Has a retract setting for loading and unloading. Why make us remove the ptfe tube each time just to change the filament. That's going to wear on the coupler over time. The placement of the spool holder SHOULD have been on back top right, like the previous released enclosure kits they promoted at launch. So much cleaner looking, easy accessibility, and just slightly taller.
Yea, I kind of wish they had more parts available on their website or at least separate parts. Considering they don’t sell some of the individual parts of the hot end they just sell the entire assembly
I have two 5M and for me it have more "bad stuff": the nozzle is proprietary and you don't have hardened steel nozzle for 0.4. The software is very unreliable, sometimes it don't home anymore or freezes. The hotend have a maximum of 280C. I need to enable 'Leveling' on each print, otherwise it crashes the nozzle into the bed...
The hotend at only 280c isn't a BAD for me personally because I print ABS/ASA at 265c. EXPENSIVE proprietary nozzles too. I usually never level before a print and I don't have the crashing into the bed happening for me. The slicer Software is crappy. But I would still recommend the AD5M over say an Ankermake M5C (Same pricing WITHOUT discount).
@@3DandTeePrinting The "nozzle hitting the bed" happened since the beginning. The "test cube" (after the first calibration setup): damaging the bed and nozzle. Then, I notice that it always happens when "Leveling" is not enabled, and I know that because: it crashes again. When I said "software", I mean the "software" in the printer (the "firmware"). I have couple of instances that I need to restart the printer because it freezes or not go home anymore. It's very unreliable. Also, some folks on Facebook/Reddit reports that the nozzle hitting 400C+ and never shutdown. Since I already face some mid-print freezes, I honestly think that it can just freezes and keep heating, without any hardware safety. I only use my printers when I'm at home, I don't trust on them. It's not only bad things. It's really fast compared to my MK3S. But....
@@3DandTeePrintingthe software they use is crappy but orca slicer does support wireless printing now. You can’t view the camera through the software but you can send print jobs and recently I’ve found my self using orca slicer more and more for the machine
@@FrequenciaJogosI have only had that happen once and it was because I swapped the nozzle and forgot to level the printer so I have a cube shaped scratch in my print bed now but thankfully I caught it before anything bad happened
@GARBO96 What slicer are you using currently? You can always check add see if it's available by "add printer" and searching for the profile. I am running it on Orcaslicer but I am aware it also has profiles in Bambu Slicer. Not sure about Cura because I no longer use it.
@@AlexDiamonds I did! This is about the Stock format. There is not much to complain about with the 5M that's why these end up being Knit Picks compared to the "Good Stuff" video.
Nothing else to complain about? That's a recommendation!
VERY Valid Point!!!
I have this printer for 2 months
- really recommend
@@MelodiaBlasku it's a great printer. You really have to knit pick to find "problems" with.
@@3DandTeePrinting I mean, you tried to say the startup was bad?!? 8 but music is frickin epic
@@LucidXVR_Official Yeah in 1997 🤣
Purging a lot is actually better than worse, because it clears the nozzle from the residue and trash. The total ammount is not significant in the end,, but allows for a better print quality after the filament swap
Bambu purge, Creality Purge, Elegoo Purge, Ankermake Purge, and Anycubic Purge about 1/2 or less of the Purge amount. I get it about the clearing of old filament but how much is too much? In my personal opinion 250mm is OVERKILL. 50mm to 100mm is usually fine for purging enough to clear the filament. The 5M filament path from the top of the printhead to the nozzle tip is only 18.3mm.
If you install the klipper mod the Purge amount is solved down to 0, been working amazing since i got it
Have they opened up REAL root access yet. I haven't tried in months. It's been printing great so I haven't played with it to much.
@@3DandTeePrinting yeah it's real klipper
@@NoMercyFtw how do you install it?.does it allow ironing? 🙏
@@QA-wt5gx yeah of course it supports ironing, Google the mod it's easy to install you put it on a thumb drive plug it up and boot up
I love the tune at the beginning 😂
But it purges so much because the along in reserve is quite high. It's one of the reasons I love it for PETG!!
Someone posted here you reduce the purging with klipper
the fact that no one has reliability issues with the printer is truly amazing. The only real negative i see with this printer is the small print area
@hypocritical7379 And the 280c Max Temp on Nozzle that's about it. It's an Amazing printer and it's cheaper than most core XY machines out there (usable ones anyway).
Maybe the difference is to compensate for the 0.4 nozzle.
I use the 0.4 and unless I really get in there and cut as close to the end as I can I don't have much of the new filament coming out before it stops. You can see the change and about one length to the table of the new filament. I'm just thinking a larger diameter 0.6/0.8 would clear the old filament out faster and you would see more of the new filament before it finishes.
It also has a longer heating area in the nozzle than most.
That filament swap was a pretty instant dealbreaker for me...
I thought it was broken first time it happened. Checked around and found out "That's normal for this machine". Yikes!!
@@3DandTeePrinting ohh the poop was just the cherry on the top, The rip out the ptfe tube and cut the filament was like thafck... An engineer sad its good enough and sent it as a final solution... It's just... Sad... I swap filaments all the time, idk how long that would last in my hands...
Doubt it was the Engineers decision. More than likely a cost cutting exercise.
I have the machine, it's absolutely awesome, but the filament change process sucks. I don't mind the filament purge so much, but having to pull out and cut is annoying. The rest of the stuff can be worked around. Spool holder is on the side via 3d printed spool holder, and smart power plug allows me to turn it on and off with a smart button. @@blackrul3z
I just bought one of these (5m pro), glad to see most of these issues are things that wont bother me, just wanted something as close to plug n print as possible
All the issues are knit picks that could be better but don't affect print quality as far as I have seen in the 300+ hours or running it.
I mean, the purging is annoying, but as long as the bads aren't in relation to print quality or performance, I'd say that's pretty good.
@iviaverick52 nope, all knit picks because there isn't much to complain about.
All true. $300 for a printer that rivaled way more expensive ones and it was dummy proof. With my ender 3 i had piles of plastic spaghetti and fails all over. With this one, i just got printing perfect pieces. I spent more time leveling or attempting to level my ender 3 than i did printing
You and my wife share the same feelings. She has all these printers to choose from and she loves the simplicity of the 5M. She used to love the P1P. Now is 5M unless it's already printing.
I have this machine and I really like it a lot, but your complaints are valid. But for the price, I don't mind them.
Exactly. For the Price, all of it's little quirks can be overlooked because it does print great.
Damn that was a ton of filament! 😮
You can change the quality of the thumbnails in orcaslicer aurora tech did it
I have the adventurer 5M pro and I don’t mind the screen it can be finicky at times I actually kind of like the UI but you can actually disable the start up sound and the sounds in general by going to the settings and disabling sound (but I do agree I don’t like the start up sounds and stuff). I am not sure if it any different UI wise between the 5M and 5M Pro but tbh I don’t entirely get how the loading/ replacement process is weird except the awful back mounted spool holder that every dang printer seems to have now and is incredibly annoying . Honestly I wonder why they even put it on the back? So it’s pretty? So you cant see the filament spool because it’s ugly? Is it an attempt to save on space???
I feel like the 5M or at least the PRO version should at least have a Retract setting for unloading. Every other printer Has a retract setting for loading and unloading. Why make us remove the ptfe tube each time just to change the filament. That's going to wear on the coupler over time.
The placement of the spool holder SHOULD have been on back top right, like the previous released enclosure kits they promoted at launch. So much cleaner looking, easy accessibility, and just slightly taller.
Yea, I kind of wish they had more parts available on their website or at least separate parts. Considering they don’t sell some of the individual parts of the hot end they just sell the entire assembly
I have two 5M and for me it have more "bad stuff": the nozzle is proprietary and you don't have hardened steel nozzle for 0.4. The software is very unreliable, sometimes it don't home anymore or freezes. The hotend have a maximum of 280C. I need to enable 'Leveling' on each print, otherwise it crashes the nozzle into the bed...
The hotend at only 280c isn't a BAD for me personally because I print ABS/ASA at 265c. EXPENSIVE proprietary nozzles too. I usually never level before a print and I don't have the crashing into the bed happening for me. The slicer Software is crappy. But I would still recommend the AD5M over say an Ankermake M5C (Same pricing WITHOUT discount).
@@3DandTeePrinting The "nozzle hitting the bed" happened since the beginning. The "test cube" (after the first calibration setup): damaging the bed and nozzle. Then, I notice that it always happens when "Leveling" is not enabled, and I know that because: it crashes again.
When I said "software", I mean the "software" in the printer (the "firmware"). I have couple of instances that I need to restart the printer because it freezes or not go home anymore.
It's very unreliable. Also, some folks on Facebook/Reddit reports that the nozzle hitting 400C+ and never shutdown. Since I already face some mid-print freezes, I honestly think that it can just freezes and keep heating, without any hardware safety. I only use my printers when I'm at home, I don't trust on them.
It's not only bad things. It's really fast compared to my MK3S. But....
@@3DandTeePrintingthe software they use is crappy but orca slicer does support wireless printing now. You can’t view the camera through the software but you can send print jobs and recently I’ve found my self using orca slicer more and more for the machine
@@FrequenciaJogosI have only had that happen once and it was because I swapped the nozzle and forgot to level the printer so I have a cube shaped scratch in my print bed now but thankfully I caught it before anything bad happened
There's a printable solution that allows you to use Bambu lab nozzles on the 5m
How do i download the past versions? Because when it was printing it make a very odd spaghetti first layer
@@EpicEruptor13
It's under FIRMWARE releases here...
flashforge.com/blogs/download-document/guider-3
@@3DandTeePrinting thank you, how do I get it into the printer?
@@EpicEruptor13 wiki.flashforge.com/en/adventurer-series/manual/firmware-upgrade
Can somebody let me know does it still only work with those two slicers I was thinking about buying this machine
@GARBO96 What slicer are you using currently? You can always check add see if it's available by "add printer" and searching for the profile. I am running it on Orcaslicer but I am aware it also has profiles in Bambu Slicer. Not sure about Cura because I no longer use it.
За те деньги которые я отдал у него лучший звук, интерфейс и мне плнвать где у него кнопка выключения пока он отлично деоает свое дело
Это отличная машина. Жаловаться было не на что, но я должен был сделать видео об этом «Хорошее и плохое».
All those custom 3-D printers and you can’t just relocate the spool holder on your flash forge five to the side of the top? Come on man.
@@AlexDiamonds I did! This is about the Stock format. There is not much to complain about with the 5M that's why these end up being Knit Picks compared to the "Good Stuff" video.
Replacement of a filament is most terrible thing in this printer
Little Heavy on the Pull and Extra Purge aspect. Not a fan but no issues with it so far. Just irritating.
Awsome machine for the money though. 😊
you sound like a guy who's always in adam sandler movies
Which One. Lol
Where did you get the files for the enclosure??
www.printables.com/model/756373-flashforge-adventurer-5m-enclosure
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Yay! Thank you!
Well, some people will moan about anything 😂
Not much to moan about on the 5M, so these are my moans and gripes. It's a great printer.