Turning 3D Print Waste into New Filament!

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  • @CNCKitchen
    @CNCKitchen  Рік тому +90

    Want to get your 3D prints to the next level? Check out our Heat Set Inserts and Tools at cnckitchen.store (Free shipping worldwide starting at €100).QUESTION What are you doing with your 3D pointing waste?
    *QUESTION* What are you doing with your 3D printing waste?

    • @oriyadid
      @oriyadid Рік тому +8

      As of right now I'm saving all waste, sorted by color (and type, of course), in the original filament boxes, and I'm planning to store them all until I find a viable way to send them for recycling.

    • @littlenyancat5754
      @littlenyancat5754 Рік тому

      I'm sorting all my waste by polymer and color and manufacturer. Turns out the bags spools come in make for pretty convenient 3D printing waste bags!
      They're starting to take up quite a lot of volume in my workspace though, I'm looking for a cheap (~

    • @drog
      @drog Рік тому +1

      Can we shred the poops right after they are coming out of the nozzle initially? Whole process down the line would be way less involved
      And the poop piles would take up way less space
      additionally, since we know what color transition is performed every time we could add a simple sorting solution. In case of A1 mini, in theory, it could be as simple as 2mm difference on X axis allowing the poops to fall in their respective container

    • @kira07
      @kira07 Рік тому

      It will be interesting to run a heat deflection and material elongation tests on those compared to original material, as it was heated twice it's possible it is degraded significantly

    • @PatBrady205
      @PatBrady205 Рік тому +3

      We recycle PLA into filament in our facility in Buffalo,ny. If you’re ever in the area, we can show you how it’s done at a big scale. You’ve got all the parts of the process figured out! Moisture is a huge part of it

  • @JustCharly420
    @JustCharly420 Рік тому +2376

    It‘s time that Bambu or some other company is getting an affordable filament extrude / recycling station on the market asap! Maybe not for the biggest/thickest parts but at least for the poop!

    • @Mcneds
      @Mcneds Рік тому +16

      Can just grind them down smaller?

    • @hanswurst9866
      @hanswurst9866 Рік тому

      yeah let people pay just because a company uses an idiotic wasteful system

    • @kkuhn
      @kkuhn Рік тому +83

      3D printing waste is tiny compared to the rest of the plastic waste you make in everyday life

    • @Miked1332
      @Miked1332 Рік тому +17

      I thought about the same thing. I have always wondered if it was possible to recycle all the filament waste.
      Maybe CNC Kitchen can make a filament recycler. However, at the current rate, I'm pretty sure Bambulabs will probably be the first to make a mass-market filament recycler.

    • @xManzi
      @xManzi Рік тому +11

      If I remember correctly, you can have, at most, 30% of old plastic in a recycled part for it to have appropriate behaviour.

  • @vvitch-mist20
    @vvitch-mist20 11 місяців тому +287

    I don't own a 3D printer but the fact that you are trying to recycle and use as much of the filament as possible is great.

  • @MakersMuse
    @MakersMuse Рік тому +923

    Haha I knew there had to be a reason for collecting so many poops! That filament dimensional accuracy is so hard to nail, but you're getting closer and closer! Really encouraging, considering there are zero methods of recycling print waste currently (at least none here in Aus)...

    • @saphserg5221
      @saphserg5221 Рік тому +5

      No, we in aus have DC engineering 3D printing for pla and terracycle for abs recycling

    • @beugemyster8961
      @beugemyster8961 Рік тому

      i feel like if he put some virgin material in it may have been more consistent

    • @chromyl_chloride
      @chromyl_chloride Рік тому +1

      australia or austria?

    • @desertd1ver
      @desertd1ver Рік тому +10

      @@chromyl_chloride No kangaroos in Austria

    • @theyarentsane
      @theyarentsane 11 місяців тому +13

      @@chromyl_chloride note: Aus means australia, Aut means Austria :)

  • @davidwillmore
    @davidwillmore Рік тому +285

    Helpful tip, put the magnet in a small bag before dropping it in. It makes cleaning it of debris much easier-- just invert the bag.

  • @CrazyScubaCouple
    @CrazyScubaCouple Рік тому +209

    i've always wanted to have a 3d printer but despised so much the idea of generating so much plastic residue, i'm glad to see some 3d print youtuber taking the interest on reducing such harmful waste.

    • @instanoodles
      @instanoodles 10 місяців тому +18

      Thats my biggest hang up too. I am glad my local filament supplier makes their own PLA and takes back scraps for recycling.

    • @CrazyScubaCouple
      @CrazyScubaCouple 10 місяців тому +7

      @@instanoodles wow that's so nice of them.

    • @blakeglengary8065
      @blakeglengary8065 7 місяців тому +7

      Please don't get a printer. The community doesn't need more cry babies.

    • @daspeed198
      @daspeed198 2 місяці тому +1

      If environmentalism is important you should only print with PLA which is made from corn starch or sugar cane. On the pollution side that only matters if you get rid of the waste in the wrong way. I could be wrong but i also believe PLA is biodegradable although not over a super short amount of time

  • @TheTsunamijuan
    @TheTsunamijuan Рік тому +110

    Lowering your purge volumes in Bambu studio also helps. If your willing to spend some time to figure out how much of a purge length you actually need. In my experience I found that for many solid colors, halfling the extrusion distance worked well. But in some situations I went and further refined this getting down to 1/8th of the original purge distances. It does also allow you to set purge volume based on the filament colors involved in the change. So say a very dark like black to a transparent might require a greater purge than to another solid color. I generally don't use a purge block either.

    • @nickalfonso8616
      @nickalfonso8616 Рік тому +17

      This has worked very well for me. Just need to watch out for highly contrasting colors but around 15-25% default purge volumes has greatly decreased waste.

    • @EndofTimee1
      @EndofTimee1 10 місяців тому +1

      How do you get rid of the purge block though. In Bambi studio.

    • @nickalfonso8616
      @nickalfonso8616 10 місяців тому +4

      @@EndofTimee1 Disable the purge tower under other settings

    • @JoConEl
      @JoConEl 6 місяців тому +3

      I had that exact question and you answered it beautifully. Also, it's very interesting to hear that you can adjust purge length to tuples of colors. So smart!

  • @iamdarkyoshi
    @iamdarkyoshi Рік тому +378

    Given you've got the tools to do so, I'd love to see what re-melting it over and over again does to the mechanical properties of the filament. Does the layer strength drop? Perhaps the filament becomes more prone to shattering. I think it'd be a cool thing to test!

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  Рік тому +475

      I should do: "how often can you recycle PLA?"

    • @EKUL34
      @EKUL34 Рік тому +23

      ​@@CNCKitchenyes!

    • @ismaeljuhoor6743
      @ismaeljuhoor6743 Рік тому +54

      I once went to an industrial 3D print conference, and there someone from ESA explained that they have a 3D printer on the ISS and that they recycle their printed parts. And the mechanical properties actually get better! But it was with PEEK 🙂

    • @giadalussu1922
      @giadalussu1922 Рік тому +2

      ​@@CNCKitchenyes please ❤

    • @steair
      @steair Рік тому +8

      @@CNCKitchen or "how many times can you recycle PLA?", but yes, it'd be really interesting! :)

  • @Kotifilosofi
    @Kotifilosofi 11 місяців тому +31

    The question of recycling the 3D-printing waste was actually the major one to keep me from considering 3D-printing as an acceptable hobby. I'm pleasantly surprised that people are working around this issue - and are finding numerous of creative ways of using the waste, moreover recycling it back to the cable. Keep up great work!

    • @hypercoder-gaming
      @hypercoder-gaming 7 місяців тому

      Well PLA is biodegradable, wouldn't stop me from buying it but I don't have much money

    • @Kotifilosofi
      @Kotifilosofi 7 місяців тому +2

      @@hypercoder-gaming ah yeah, that's a good point :D

    • @greensheen8759
      @greensheen8759 5 місяців тому +3

      It's not really biodegradable. Only under very certain conditions. Just tossing it in landfill it's not going to biodegrade

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому

      ​@@hypercoder-gamingif you are in the US, we don't recycling much of any plastic. Same with Germany, only 15% is really recycled.

    • @bigsteakomlete3152
      @bigsteakomlete3152 3 місяці тому

      Very strange that this comment keeps getting posted over and over here. Are these bots? There is an agenda here but I don't really see the purpose of saying waste is why you don't 3d print. Somebody is paying for this, and trust the people paying for these comments do not care about the environment one bit. This user does not care at all.
      Do you notice that almost all public schools do not have a single 3d printer? Almost all of them make absolutely no effort at all to teach kids 3d printing. With printers costing as much as a single locker. Especially if they buy in bulk. Do you understand? The public schools are there to bring your child down. The last thing they want to do is teach your child something that is extremely useful in private and professional life. If these children learn to design and make their own products at home, those same children aren't going to the big box store giving money for everything they need. They aren't buying that paper towel holder from Target.
      Now do you see? The last thing the public schools want to do is make the children a little less of a good little consumer. So once again they are bringing your children down in the name of saving the planet. And if you still don't get it, the person I'm replying to is evil. Taking money to slow down a movement making people self sufficient. All under the guise of not polluting. You know, because Walmart, the place the person I'm replying to goes to buy all their stuff, doesn't contribute to the pollution at all. Soon you will see the people hanged on live TV

  • @tombrazier6172
    @tombrazier6172 Рік тому +40

    Thanks Stefan. I have boxes of failed prints sorted by colour and filament type and live in hope that one day it can be recycled. I've been sorting my failed prints this way from day one. So it is good to see progress here.

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому +2

      If u're in the US, I'll take it. I make art out of it and sell it on the farmers markets. I'll cover the shipping costs. I take skirts, poop, failed prints, etc.

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому +2

      If you're in Germany, they have amazing ppl who recycle PLA:Recycling Fabrik.

  • @Kevin15673
    @Kevin15673 Рік тому +67

    I'd buy recycled material if it was cheaper, instead it's more expensive than just buying fresh filament.

    • @nickoli2356
      @nickoli2356 4 місяці тому +2

      More time goes into it

    • @WirelessDude569
      @WirelessDude569 Місяць тому +1

      @@nickoli2356 The additional time used in production doesn't add value to the product - which results in a more expensive product that has a lower quality than fresh filament.

    • @Jimalcoatl
      @Jimalcoatl Місяць тому +1

      The extra time doesn't make the end product more valuable. In order for recycling filament to be viable to consumers/end users the recyclers are going to have to accept smaller profit margins vs. newly produced filament or find more efficient ways of recycling. Otherwise they will only sell recycled filament to those who are obsessed with being as green as possible. Most people feel good about being more ecologically friendly, but aren't going to spend extra and get an inferior product to do so.
      Personally, if home recycling was less time and money intensive I would be all about it as I hate wasting materials and love being able to repurpose old materials, but it just doesn't seem like the technology is there yet.

  • @bjarnec1569
    @bjarnec1569 Рік тому +24

    I use Recycling Fabriks recycled filaments A LOT and I truly love this filament. I've had zero problems so far and its great to know that this is 100% recycled filament.

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  Рік тому +3

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @themountain59
      @themountain59 Рік тому

      yeah...but the thing is what do you do with your waste ??

    • @bjarnec1569
      @bjarnec1569 Рік тому

      @@themountain59 easy, recycling fabrik provides shipping labels for free to their customers. They'll then use my waste to produce new filaments

    • @MauryXman
      @MauryXman Рік тому +1

      They cost too much, at those prices I buy the originals

    • @McOldwolf
      @McOldwolf 11 місяців тому +1

      @@MauryXman Just had a look at Recycling Fabriks prices. Bundles for 18€/kg, 2.5kg spools for 18.80€/kg and the normal 1kg spools for 20€ is not cheap but still quite reasonable in my opinion. Definitely something I will consider buying in the future.

  • @OpLapDancePikachu69
    @OpLapDancePikachu69 Рік тому +850

    step 1: have a bunch of money

  • @802Garage
    @802Garage Рік тому +50

    Moisture was one of my first concerns. Glad you caught it! Definitely a ton of work and energy used to make this recycled filament, but still a really cool idea and result.

  • @kikijewell2967
    @kikijewell2967 9 днів тому +4

    Proof of concept is the first step, not the last. Once it can be done, it can be done better.

    • @3dprintmonster
      @3dprintmonster 6 днів тому +1

      You are right
      Recycle and get the best

  • @AerialWaviator
    @AerialWaviator Рік тому +28

    The one suggestion is to do the drying procedure after the poop has been pelletized. Since pellets are smaller, the PLA will have a greater surface area to allow water to escape.
    The Filament Extruder has two air cooling fans (4:48), with one sucking in warmer air from the extruder itself. Wonder if utilizing a copper spiral coil with cold water flowing, and the hot filament passed down the centre of the spiral, air from fans would be much cooler, greatly shortening the elastic portion of filament between the extruder and the rollers, which should tighten tolerance on the filament diameter. Another option would be to pump a small stream liquid nitrogen into the area. liquid nitrogen would quickly turn into a cold gas.

  • @hydroxyl5130
    @hydroxyl5130 Рік тому +17

    I do appreciate this line of thinking! I hope to see a stronger recycling market. No reason to allow any plastic waste.

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому

      Many monsters (Dow) of the chemical industry are working on it, but there are a lot of lies in it.

  • @themisfitowl2595
    @themisfitowl2595 Рік тому +3

    As someone who is about to add 3D prints to my small business, this info is extremely helpful! You have probably saved me literal days of hassle and headache trying to find a way to be economic about printer waste! Thank you so much! 👍
    Edit: What I meant to say was that because of your work I now realize it's far more economical for a small print business like myself to send my printer waste to someone else to make into filament, rather than struggling to try to do it myself.

    • @juliusvalentinas
      @juliusvalentinas Рік тому

      You wanted to say that he proved recycling to be nonsense.

    • @themisfitowl2595
      @themisfitowl2595 Рік тому +1

      @@juliusvalentinas
      No. He proved recycling to be Work, to be a large task that I severely underestimated.
      Recycling is very worthwhile, I'm just not equipped to recycle my own print waste. This video helped me understand that fact before I would have wasted many days and several dollars attempting such a task.
      Now I intend to send any future print waste off to be recycled by more qualified hands.

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому

      If you're in the US, I'll take your PLA trash and cover the shipping.

  • @drauc
    @drauc Рік тому +181

    Always love these recycling videos, can't wait for this to be realistic for everyone with a more accessible version

    • @idemanddonuts
      @idemanddonuts Рік тому +4

      Yeah it really annoys me that he won't make a video about recycling at a hobbyist cost level
      Edit, it looks like he's going to make a video for one that's now cost friendly

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому

      I can make video of upcycling, cost of equipment is $50, though invest in good mask to protect yourself from the fumes (extra $50). But it's meticulous with poop, you need patience )))

  • @josephvanas6352
    @josephvanas6352 Рік тому +14

    recycled material like this would be perfect for a lot of what I do, most of my prints are functional things so I really dont care what color they are or even if they are perfect so long as they are dimensionally accurate enough to do what I need.

  • @bluephreakr
    @bluephreakr Рік тому +9

    Part of the filament recycling process should include a hollow sink that matches the _intended_ diametre which it is pulled through and as blobs are encountered with a sensor before it, vary the speed of the outfeed to ensure the finished product is more consistent.
    This can be achieved with using metal tubes encasing an induction heating coil, then controlling the temperature of that coil. Once heated and pulled through, a fan and perforated / slotted metal outfeed tube immediately cools down the plastic to lock the diametre in, and it should be a better result once spooled.

  • @roadrunner2324
    @roadrunner2324 Рік тому +8

    This stuff is so important for the 3D printing community. Thanks for sharing your successes and failures on this.

  • @zsill777
    @zsill777 Рік тому +35

    A big problem for making this scale is being able to seperate plastics from eachother. If you're a filament recycler taking in plastic from different sources, you cant really trust that those people are giving you clean, properly sorted filament. A technology for sorting, splitting, or not caring about mixed polymers is an important step

    • @filanfyretracker
      @filanfyretracker Рік тому +2

      I think another issue is likely that say ABS is not ABS is not ABS. That is I figure that one cannot just pitch their Polymaker into the same bin as their Atomic or Inland or Fusion Filaments.

    • @Zippytez
      @Zippytez 7 місяців тому +2

      They do sort plastics at recycling plants. Different plastics either have different densities that can be sorted, or absorb different wavelengths of light

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому +1

      Sorting is already possible, the problem is making recycling process to be cheap.

  • @JasonBlack66
    @JasonBlack66 5 місяців тому +3

    it will be so good when somthing affordable comes along and affordable for the home user. I have a feeling we will be waiting quite a few years yet.

  • @LanceCSTCuddy
    @LanceCSTCuddy Рік тому +31

    I’d really like to see strength tests on the cons batch. If the coupons have roughly the same strength, I wouldn’t mind printing functional parts with it at all. Fascia and more decorative prints, I’d stick with the virgin material, but structural bits not seen by the end user, or parts I just make for the shop, I’d love a recycle option.

  • @fotamucker7308
    @fotamucker7308 Рік тому +24

    I think I totally would buy recycled materials, especially if the colors were funky af. I think it's very cool to have weird colored prints, I can always paint them if I need them to be a different color!
    Unfortunately, where I live, there aren't a lot of people doing 3D prints, let alone recycling! So I just have to wait for 3D printing to catch up I guess.

    • @adamrak7560
      @adamrak7560 Рік тому +7

      I am collecting my 3D printing trash until I have enough to be economical to buy a recycler. Recycler are also, slowly getting cheaper, so the two should cross eventually in value.

  • @quinnobi42
    @quinnobi42 Рік тому +7

    I half expected that you'd have to mix virgin material into the recycled material, just so that it flows better in the machine. You might be able to get a really good consistent diameter pelletizing and then mixing with some virgin material, so that the mechanical properties aren't too degraded.

  • @jochem1986
    @jochem1986 10 місяців тому +2

    Well done dude, I did a master project regarding exactly that in 2015, but you have gotten a much better quality filament than I did back in the day.

  • @onimus93
    @onimus93 Рік тому +10

    It would be interesting to see how combining old plastic bottles into the mix affects recycling of PET filament and how reliable the filament thickness is as a result.

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому

      PET and extrusion are not friends on the small scale.

  • @tenchuu007
    @tenchuu007 11 місяців тому +2

    More videos of this kind are appreciated! We really need a home solution for filament waste! Also, please discuss material degradation and the limited number of times filament can be recycled!

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому

      If you're in the US, I'll take your PLA trash. I'll cover the shipping. I make art out of it. I do upcycling (cheap), but not recycling (expensive).

  • @goiiia3774
    @goiiia3774 Рік тому +9

    I suggest installing a second extruder and printing internal perimeters and filling with recycled plastic. This can be done with a large nozzle to avoid clogging.

    • @calaphos
      @calaphos Рік тому +3

      Isnt a lot of the clogging already happening before melt in the heatbreak/extruder/bowden tube? A larger nozzle alone wont help, not sure if there are hotends and extruders with explicitly larger tolerances on filament.

  • @logicalfundy
    @logicalfundy Рік тому +6

    I think Bambu should look more into ways to reduce filament waste, as well as the time taken to swap colors. While people seem to like the AMS, perhaps it is reliable, it's also one of the slowest and most wasteful ways to change colors. In the meantime, Prusa is working on a new MMU system that will hopefully be more reliable than the MMU2, as well as having a tool changer system on the XL.

    • @CYellowan
      @CYellowan Рік тому +1

      Very interesting. Here's a small idea from me. Per layer, at the end, on the inside, for infill, THIS is where that last "waste" stuff should be used. But this clearly demands the slicer to be very smart and planned in regard towards this as a method. To be clear, past the start and the end OR thin sections, the infill will often take up a lot of space inside. I'd deem that a safe area to swap filament on the inside so the print can just continue. If one could code this in with some thickness parameters for when it should shred off a blob OR dispose the transition into the infill structure? Sure this would make the waste decrease significantly right? 🤔

  • @quivksilver108
    @quivksilver108 5 місяців тому

    I'm so glad this video came across my feed. I just started heavy into 3D printing. My wife got me a beginner mini printer, and I got the bug and got an Elegoo Neptune 4 Pro. But with the mishaps I was having with my tiny printer not being level (it was a nightmare), I've been generating a lot of plastic waste and feeling really bad about it. So I'm glad you brought up Printerior.
    Thanks for this insightful video!

  • @jonathan__g
    @jonathan__g Рік тому +6

    I don't usually paint my prints so I do like having the different colours myself (or just print in a neutral grey). But if the end goal for someone is to paint their models then I can definitely see a recycled filament being a popular choice.

    • @richardyoung5349
      @richardyoung5349 11 місяців тому

      I’ve saved all my failed prints/supports/brims etc. I first run them through a wood chipper then through a P5 shredder to make the pieces smaller. Then the plan is to run them though an extruder (should arrive in the next week 🤞). I don’t care what the colour is since I’ll use all the recycled filament for prototyping.

  • @catherinelastname
    @catherinelastname Місяць тому

    This seems perfect for prototyping designs without wasting so much filament.
    Hope it becomes more affordable in the future!

  • @Repkord
    @Repkord Рік тому +3

    Well done!
    We need more affordable solutions for this. Recycling and reuse is becoming more and more important as more users get into 3D printing!

    • @moedaraz7922
      @moedaraz7922 Рік тому

      True, and if you look at the viewing numbers on all the videos Stephan made on this topic you could assume there is a fairly large market to cover... just saying :-)

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому +1

      If you're in the USA, I'll take your trash, but to make art, not for recycling.

  • @wanglydiaplt
    @wanglydiaplt Рік тому +1

    I've been printing with PLA for 4 years now and I've been separating scrap by color and storing it in totes. I'm still hoping someone in my area will be able to recycle the stuff back into usable filament one day but meanwhile the scrap pile grows larger! The good news is that as time goes on and my skills improve and printer quality is steadily improving I don't produce as much scrap as I once did. I like your ideas of extruding twice and extracting moisture; good points!

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому

      If you're in the USA, I need your PLA trash. I make art out of it and it seems people like it. I sell it locally ONLY. I cover the shipping cost. I can give you one of the art pieces as a pay back ;)

  • @ridokilos-actual
    @ridokilos-actual Рік тому +9

    Would love to see this DIY filament recycle process perfected. I've been storing a bunch of failed prints and printer poops over the past couple of years because it seems like we're on the verge of a breakthrough.

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому

      If you're in the US, please ship to me. I make Upcycled art out of it. I cover the shipping. It'll help me as a woman artist/never to be scientist.

  • @TS_Mind_Swept
    @TS_Mind_Swept 11 місяців тому +1

    11:42 Nice; I guess it's a good thing I've been separating my different color 3D print waste into separate bags, looks like I'll have a place to send it now

  • @DocAlex-cx9ot
    @DocAlex-cx9ot Рік тому +4

    Nice idea!
    When you collect the poops you know which color is is (mainly) if no better solution you could monitor the motion of the filament rolls. Why don’t you sort the poops while printing? That would give you the possibility to control the resulting color better. Instead of brown you could get red, green, blue, grey or similar results.

  • @ZTenski
    @ZTenski 5 місяців тому

    I used to work at a plastics molding place for car parts, every few days we'd take all the failed parts and ram them through what is basically a wood chipper, and that'd be mixed in with the new plastics. Was allways fun.

  • @kspec2001
    @kspec2001 Рік тому +4

    its always amazing to see that you cover so many aspects of 3d printing.

  • @bastienfelix4605
    @bastienfelix4605 10 місяців тому +1

    Another pro to pelletizing your first melt is that it mixes the material a second time, thus making the color more even

  • @joostvhts
    @joostvhts Рік тому +5

    wait is poop the actual term? I'm three days into this hobby and already decided that that is what I'm calling it but good to see the feeling is common

    • @dekurvajo
      @dekurvajo Рік тому

      Yes Poop(TM) is registered by Bambulab. Other brands have to find something else in the future. Maybe like PooPoo or Pupu,, doody-doo something like that. :D

  • @ButterBeanCW
    @ButterBeanCW 11 днів тому +1

    This is the science that will lead to a useful invention

    • @3dprintmonster
      @3dprintmonster 6 днів тому +1

      Absolutely! This science has the potential to spark incredible innovations. Can't wait to see where it leads and how it will change the game in the future!

  • @AlexanderA80
    @AlexanderA80 6 місяців тому +31

    Why poops not sorted by color? :)

    • @wackymaninc
      @wackymaninc 4 місяці тому +1

      Idk ;)

    • @RobloxGaming-vs8om
      @RobloxGaming-vs8om 3 місяці тому +2

      Becuase he thinks when it poops out its too hard to sort so he didint… but i wouldve honestly ;)

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому

      It's time consuming, I sort it by hand and it takes a while (at least 10 hrs for a small batch for me).

    • @thefink95
      @thefink95 3 місяці тому +1

      This process is called nerling, it is very popular In LEGO.

    • @lemau8458
      @lemau8458 2 місяці тому

      if they could be sorted by color, then they wouldn't exist in the first place

  • @ABentPaperclip
    @ABentPaperclip Рік тому +2

    I think there's a market for some kind of cottage industry filament recycling service. Imagine a service where you mail them boxes of your failed PLA prints (or Bambu poop) and get 'credits' based on the weight and quality of the material you send. They handle all of the sorting, shredding, and re-extrusion into new spools, and then resell them as recycled PLA. Users who mailed in material can use credits to buy spools made from the recycled material (or just buy spools with money). Could even sell rolls of filament that are partially recycled, ie) 70% recycled material, 30% virgin material, or 50/50, 20/80, etc. The biggest hurdle would be having some way of verifying and detecting the incoming material- you don't want somebody's polycarbonate benchy getting ground up and contaminating a batch of otherwise consistent PLA. ABS should theoretically be even easier to recycle, though it's not as commonly used as PLA for prints.

    • @Jonas-rz3vq
      @Jonas-rz3vq Рік тому

      That's acutally exactly what we do as the Recycling Fabrik in Germany. You can send in failed prints, support structure and empty spools, we pay the shipping, you in addition collect Points for ur Scrap and use them to get the 100% recycled Filament cheaper. Win-Win-Win?! Only work in Germany at the moment tho. Greeting Jonas

  • @cho4d
    @cho4d Рік тому +5

    i think communal maker spaces need to become more widespread. this kind of thing only makes sense for industrial users or as a part of a communal project.

    • @Baldavier
      @Baldavier Рік тому +1

      That would be so great to have one in every city!

  • @icacrubin6511
    @icacrubin6511 Рік тому +1

    Many times in industry they mix shredded material with original material granules. It does help even out differences in material properties and it also helps with flow in hopper.

    • @lindawolffkashmir2768
      @lindawolffkashmir2768 9 місяців тому

      You should try a mix of 75% regrind and 25% virgin to start, if the flow still is not what you’d like, bump up the virgin a little.
      Also, another way of catching any stray metal shreds is to place a magnet on the outside of the feed hopper, near the mouth so the metal is captured before heating.
      This plastic can also be sorted before being ground, if you want to keep a uniform color in your media.

  • @TheAndyroo770
    @TheAndyroo770 Рік тому +4

    When jewellers make gold wire, they pull it through a set diameter hole to conform it to that diameter. Could you pull the semi hot filament through a metal hole to ensure no lumps/bumps?

    • @darkdest6664
      @darkdest6664 11 місяців тому +1

      maybe but gold wire is more i guess "rigid" while hot plastic would just make a mess. Gold is easy to bend and correct (even if reheating is required) but the plastic being so thin cools too quickly and if reheated is more then likely going to make a mess rather than fix the problem :/ but thats why the machine has 2 wheels to press and shape the plastic, its not perfect but i think in a few years time there will be a more efficient way to do this. If people want something done, someone will want to get on that!

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому

      I think it's an overkill for PLA

  • @Masthegreatest08
    @Masthegreatest08 5 місяців тому

    Honestly i like the variation in the grooves and reflection, makes it look more natural

  • @onel0uder114
    @onel0uder114 9 місяців тому +4

    Damn the Majora's Mask print wasted more filament than it used?!

  • @jauncourt
    @jauncourt Рік тому

    We already divide our waste up into different plastics, and keep it in large ziploc bags with dessicant for eventual recycling. A fun idea I had was that I started to separately collect all the fails/supports/bed adhesion scrap from my various silk PLA prints to reuse in other ways. I'm experimenting with making decorative items and costume jewelry parts (like spangles or faux feather/enamel inlay bits) out of the waste. Also I'm lucky to live near a filament recycling company, in St Louis, so when we have enough, recycling will be relatively painless.

  • @GriffinForte
    @GriffinForte 4 місяці тому +8

    The video starts about near 4:07

    • @trainspeer3100
      @trainspeer3100 Місяць тому

      Yey thanks

    • @DeerEwe
      @DeerEwe 23 дні тому

      @@trainspeer3100the video has segments

  • @skippy9214
    @skippy9214 Рік тому

    There was the Filastruder here in the US that looked similar to the ARTME, but they've been out of stock for a while, and I was planning on building my own extruder. I use a lot pf plastic and print a lotta big stuff, so being able to make and recycle my own plastic I think will help me cut down the cost of the hobby. Thanks for doing this series covering all your trials with extrusion!

  • @odinata
    @odinata Рік тому +3

    No need for this much waste

    • @meikgeik
      @meikgeik Рік тому +1

      There's DEFINITELY much better ways to do multimaterial. 1.2kg of waste is INSANE

  • @msL154
    @msL154 2 місяці тому

    I like how the printer is still progressing. Soon there will be more than one nozzle and cartridge that can replace the one being used to speed times up.

  • @gbestwick
    @gbestwick 11 місяців тому +1

    To get a perfect dimension filament, I would suggest forcing it through a set of rolling dies that set its diameter to exactly what you're after. Set up a set of rubber wheels in a push-pull config, and force it through a circular rolling die.

  • @BluePhantomCreations
    @BluePhantomCreations 2 місяці тому +1

    I just started the video and that Zelda Majora’s mask is absolutely beautiful! 0:22

  • @rexmcstiller4675
    @rexmcstiller4675 Рік тому +1

    I think home filament recycling is the next big step in 3D printing.

  • @Ironarmgaming1
    @Ironarmgaming1 7 місяців тому +3

    0:40 Guten Tag to you too (I’m learning German in school and on Duolingo)

    • @Soap56789
      @Soap56789 3 місяці тому +1

      SAMEEE cause my mom and grandma are from Germany and i plan on visiting in a year :D

  • @MrMcbear
    @MrMcbear Місяць тому +1

    For most ppl that dont want to or cannot spend thousands for a recycler you can melt it all down and use molds to make stuff.

  • @shigrathFX
    @shigrathFX Рік тому +1

    I'm currently using 95% recycled filaments from Recycling Fabrik. The other 5% are ASA / TPU. All my PLA and PETG needs are covered with 100% recycled material that works "as new".

  • @MIKEx2112
    @MIKEx2112 11 місяців тому +2

    Come on Bambulabs !!!!!
    Hop on the recycling bandwagon.....Make it affordable and I'll be 1st in line to make that purchase

  • @kilianlindlbauer8277
    @kilianlindlbauer8277 Рік тому +2

    Recycling filament gets even more interesting for other materials like petg or abs as those are not bio based materials but rather oil based, so the environmental aspect is greater there. Pla is after all starch based and can be composted in a suitable composter (not that thing in your garden).

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому

      Check the latest study from Sweden, PLA is as toxic as petrochemicals :( I totally agree with the study (by female) and I don't fool people into amazingness of bio based plastic.

  • @schrodingerscat8621
    @schrodingerscat8621 11 місяців тому +1

    I just adore your Irish accent! sehr gut👍

  • @digidex4557
    @digidex4557 Рік тому

    im literally trying different things to try and recycle/reuse/repurpuse waste extruded filament, and this shows up! Thank you for this video!
    I feel like easy, affordable & effective at-home recycling solutions are on their way soon!

  • @lamarchedutemps7427
    @lamarchedutemps7427 8 місяців тому

    Danke ! Super interesting, but for recycling it's quite expensive and time consuming ! The best way would be to bring back poopsl to the shop where I bought rolls. Hope that will be possible, cause it's becoming a serious solution issue.

  • @cx019
    @cx019 10 місяців тому

    after seeing your video i collected bigger failed prints and started collecting all prints from then. as soon as possible i will send my waste to recycling fabrik. they are realtively near me (Niedersachsen) and i will buy rPLA now, when my existing pla is gone. thanks mate. i avoided 3d printing for years because of the waste, but now i can print with a clean conscience. thanks!

  • @KingOfRedPlays
    @KingOfRedPlays Рік тому +1

    I don't print massively often, but right from the very first test print I ever did, every bit of waste plastic has been kept in a lidded tub, waiting for the day that recycling it could become viable at home.
    It looks like we're still not quite there yet with the machines needed to get something that won't keep causing jams, but we're slowly coming closer to a workable process.
    I definitely like the idea of the "pelletiser" - a similar mechanism with a robust design could make a very fine addition towards the production of reused filament in a small workshop.
    I think the filament pullet mechanism might need to have rollers that also act somewhat as a mould that squashed the filament into the correct (or at least more consistent) size, cool it down immediately past there, pass that through the diameter sensor with another pair of rollers, and then spool it.

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому

      If u're in the USA, I'll take your PLA trash. I make Upcycled art from plastic and what not.

    • @KingOfRedPlays
      @KingOfRedPlays 3 місяці тому

      @@matildo4ka7 I'm sadly very much not in the USA, so I think taking my print trash would be an unnecessarily expensive endeavour, but thanks for the offer.

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому

      @@KingOfRedPlays if you're not in the US to cover the shipping for me will be not feasible) thank u for replying)

  • @mariairina6143
    @mariairina6143 Рік тому

    These videos are so important to bring to attention that this is indeed possible! In my country, we don't have any company that recycles 3D printing scraps sadly... But it could actually be doable, if the company got some grant or funding, which they often do, especially if it's related to environmental concerns, to get some good professional equipment

  • @tireballastserviceofflorid7771
    @tireballastserviceofflorid7771 9 місяців тому

    Just a thought. Mix a portion of the recycled with virgin black material. Most poop mixes will be dark anyway. Would probably give a near black color and might even help with printability.

  • @afganael
    @afganael Рік тому

    that's amazing, i mean for test prints or for small one this type of recycling filament is one if not the best option.

  • @Mildly_Amused
    @Mildly_Amused Рік тому

    Some other people I know that recycle their own filament use a Blendtec blender to grind the filament into tiny pieces after drying the filament scraps and p00p. They say that blender turns the filament into tiny particles that melt easily. The blenders use to be famous for the videos where the blend iPhones, whole frozen fish, garden tools, gold balls, etc... so I don't doubt their power to grind filament.

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому

      Any coffee grinder will crush the poop with flying colors ;) I used grinder as pelletizer.

  • @retroluminico
    @retroluminico Рік тому

    I love the new music after the intro. It feels more modern and fresh.

  • @MlnscBoo
    @MlnscBoo 7 місяців тому

    The printed Majora's Mask looks awesome. It's crazy how far 3D printing has come

  • @Lilpiip123
    @Lilpiip123 Рік тому +1

    It seems like it would be perfect for prototyping material when you know you will have to iterate on a design a few times. After you have the design finalized you use virgin material for the final print and grind all the previous prototypes back down to prototyping material!

  • @stelioskoroneos3872
    @stelioskoroneos3872 Рік тому

    Nice work.
    My experiments have shown that for best results you also need to add "virgin" PLA into the mix at a ratio of 70/30 approx (70 recycled 30 new PLA). I am not a chemical engineer but i believe that shredding,heating the material multiple times breaks its molecular structure and that creates a lot of the issues during extrusion.

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому

      That's correct. It loses viscosity aka bonds are getting broken.

  • @bryanbogaert8726
    @bryanbogaert8726 Рік тому

    we have been working for several years in our lab with fully recycled filament. So the fact that it was possible has been known for a long time. It's also a lot easier if you get thousands and thousands of dollars worth of equipment for free

  • @chaymber_crafts
    @chaymber_crafts Рік тому

    I send away my old scraps and prototypes to recycling Fabrik. I think it's great! I would love to make my own spool. As i often do Painting and modelling i don't always need perfect colors. I like to empty my leftover spools with massive prints👊😝

  • @Drd4all
    @Drd4all Рік тому

    This is a fantastic video ! Its a no brainer to reuse your failed prints. Indeed its a technically challenging process, but you have made a great start !

  • @erikpower7203
    @erikpower7203 8 місяців тому

    Amazing! Before this video I was just throwing my failed prints away, but now I am going to save them for something else! Thanks 😍😁

  • @bami2
    @bami2 8 місяців тому

    Great video! I don't want to do multi-material printing mostly because of all the garbage produced.
    I hope in the future that this will be more affordable/accessible.

  • @nd7082
    @nd7082 10 днів тому +2

    your logo looks like the gancube logo

  • @DBB-KE5DUO
    @DBB-KE5DUO Рік тому

    I hate waiting for a month to get my new Prusa printers to America. I guess i'll find out about filament pooping someday... i'm going to make my own shredder and extruder because you inspired me! 😊

  • @CaliFreek63
    @CaliFreek63 11 місяців тому

    What an amazing and interesting video, this not only is very inspiring to see that it is possible and is quite informative on the process of recycling, but is also amazing to see that companies are willing to put in the work to recycle filament on a national scale. Hopefully other industries can learn from this.

  • @SonicManEXE
    @SonicManEXE 9 місяців тому

    In a world of increasingly solid state products, it’s fun to see such a mechanical process take place.

  • @WhattheBeck
    @WhattheBeck 9 місяців тому

    I would be the guy keeping all my similar color in different bags for recycling- so cool! you could even do a color changing filament if you load bits of different colors one after the other

  • @rdfjfgjyfdhfghy67456
    @rdfjfgjyfdhfghy67456 9 місяців тому

    This is such a cool effort! Thank you for documenting your recycling process, it was such a labour of love!

  • @w3rN42
    @w3rN42 Рік тому +2

    I already sent filament waste to Recycling Fabrik and also bought their rPLA. It worked pretty well!

    • @CNCKitchen
      @CNCKitchen  Рік тому

      Yeah, me too. Can definitely confirm that. I would hope that they had more of the gradient materials in stock.

  • @geekdomo
    @geekdomo Рік тому +1

    Thanks so much for sharing this! My very comment on Twitter where you showed this mask was " I want to see the poop". Thanks a ton!

  • @avejst
    @avejst Рік тому

    Great video as always
    I have bought recycle filament from Prusa and PM filament, with no issues.
    Thanks for sharing your experiences with all of us 🙂

  • @technicavivunt
    @technicavivunt Рік тому +1

    That green is actually quite pretty!

  • @AnanasHerz69
    @AnanasHerz69 Рік тому

    I have a "Box of shame" with all failed prints, I might start sending my scrap to Recycling Fabrik, thank you for that tipp!

  • @NooceneSounds
    @NooceneSounds Рік тому

    I've been keeping my poop in jars for years for this exact reason

  • @ameliabuns4058
    @ameliabuns4058 Рік тому

    *new cnc kitchen video*
    SPRINGS TO THE COMPUTER
    I really want a filament extruder so bad, i want to experiment with crazy filament! but it's so expensive...
    that artme video is so exciting!

  • @Thurloat
    @Thurloat Рік тому

    My kids really loved how many times you said poop in this video 😂

  • @krisrobitzsch
    @krisrobitzsch Рік тому

    This is so cool. I wish I just had a DIY home system to do this. I hate throwing failed prints away.

  • @rcmaniac25
    @rcmaniac25 Рік тому +1

    I've owned and used recycled material. But I've had only 1 spool of "recycled from people sending in their scraps" and maybe 3-4 spools of "filament manufacturer took their own waste and repelletized it and then re-extruded". Interestingly, most of the manufacturer recycled filament is an olive green... but I still mark it as "recycled... color may vary".
    It came up elsewhere, but it really comes down to 2 things: are you trying to get filament out of it OR are you just trying to not throw the plastic out.
    I know a lot want filament, but then you have the elephant in the room: money. If a filament maker can't make money, they're not gonna exist/operate. If you told someone "pay $20/kg, now spend $10 to ship the waste to this location, and then we'll send you a proportional coupon that saves you $5 off a $30/kg spool that may not be in spec and is a random color" most of them would say "no" and move on. If you had an altruistic individual/group who isn't trying to make money, then it's a different story... but I've not really seen any of those outside of "that one guy in a garage who happened to do this... but they can only handle a few KG before they're overwhelmed".
    The one I'm leaning more towards is using the waste to become something else. It's really convenient to make a GridFinity bin or even a generic parts bin for some hardware store rack. But you may be printing $2 per bin, when you can buy them under $1 each. I'd much rather get a mold and then use the waste to make those bins. I know people who make figures, paver stones, etc. with it. But that's not my thing at the moment.

  • @FactionalSky
    @FactionalSky Рік тому +2

    Recycling Fabrik is my solution at this point.

    • @matildo4ka7
      @matildo4ka7 3 місяці тому

      They are the BEST. I'm a huge fan of theirs.