Hello there, I've owned the D-Lux type 109 for 6 years and the D-Lux 7 for 6 years and bought the D-Lux 8 a few months ago and I've never experienced any of the problems that you mentioned. I treat them as compact camera's and accept them as just that. I don't think of these cameras as serious tools, just fun to have with me when out and about hiking and walking.... thanks for the video
@@alanjones8579 I do own a lot of point and shooters, so I am not a novice, that said maybe I have a bad copy. Sadly it is not the image quality or the build quality being the issue, it is really the bugs in areas that I have not experienced before.
For the amount of money Leica demands for a new-skin 8, I expected more. I agree with everything said in this video. The zoom is also ridiculously slow.
I was thinking the same things you said. I have a few of the older D Lux cameras, as well as the 7. I also have the Type 109. I have never experienced any of these issues, ever. I have never taken my battery out for any reason. I also never tried to wake the camera up for it to fail. I have thoroughly enjoyed each of my cameras. I have not bought the 8 yet, but I’m planning to, but I may wait for the next sensor to be released or I may buy the Q3. I keep my D Lux 7 on me daily, and it has given me countless moments of peace, joy and created beautiful art in the process.
So you can set your D-LUX 8 in the custom menu so when you turn it on, the zoom goes to whatever focal length you set it on? My old Ricoh GX200 had this function and it was really useful.
Any camera that has a pro lens, and at least 16mp... is absolutely a Pro-Camera in the hands of a Pro-fessional Photographer.. However if you equate "it has to have more MP to be a pro" ,.. then of course you are a Camera NOOB... self defined.
If you turn it off, it's the Bluetooth or the camera is still writing to the card. Thats the thing with the buffer, what you expirienced while shooting, the buffer is really small. Like you said, most of the points could be corrected via firmware, I don't get it why they not correct some of the issues. They're easy to fix and would make this camera even better to sell. I don't have the issue with the WB. I think it is very accurate most of the times and is able to pick the right Kelvin even in more complex situations, where I see others struggle. The camera itself is more a bunch of quirks as it is a perfect camera but I have to say that I love to use it as my second camera to the A1 at events etc. It might not be super fast with the zoom, but when I think about what it is, I'm ok with it. Some argue the price is to high but this thing fits a purpose. The package is small, you get a very bright lens that you don't get for normal mFT cameras and you get something that is really stands out and that is the EVF. For this size of camera, it's the best evf I ever have seen. In the end I understand if someone says no, thats to much quirks but I don't think I would like to give up on this little camera.
Thanks for a balanced response. The firmware is one thing that mystifies me. And you are right to highlight the max aperture on the zoom lens. Unfortunately the entire experience didn't agree with me
I've been using a Fujifilm X-M1 for a while, looking for a change, and always liked the look of the LX100 so nearly bought the D-Lux 8. But at £1500 I couldn't justify the price. I bought a used Fujifilm X30, for a third of the price, instead and love it! Startup in a couple seconds, EVF, tilt screen, manual zoom with OIS, mic port! Yes the sensor is smaller but really for posting online it's enough and the picture quality is what you expect of Fuji. btw. I fell for the Lumix S9 marketing and ended up returning that so I know how you feel, buyers remorse.
Well there are so many good options out there for that price range and indeed the older mft and Fuji cams still pack loads of punch for an affordable pricing. I just bought the S9 but for one specific reason (episode coming up). Let's see how it lives up
Thank You Very Much!! I was about to buy this, but this review made the decision for me. I'll spend my $$ on a different camera. You're exactly correct: "unexceptable" 🖖🥰
I had a D-LUX 8 too, but just for less than two months. Then I returned it to the dealer, because of some of the issues, you mentioned. I got full refund, no trouble here and bought in November a brand new SL2s for just under €2,800 or 21,000 DKK. Best buy ever and a superb supplement to my M240 and M240P. Thanks for sharing and keep on rolling!
You’ve just described all the annoying little things about my D-Lyx 7, Paul! I’m glad someone else complains about the slowww zoom lens, and the other seemingly minor, yet annoying idiosyncrasies of what could have been fabulous cameras to compete with the Fuji 100x series. When I originally saw the D-Lux 8 specs earlier this year I was astonished that Leica put out an old camera that had a new skin and was just named the 8. Pure laziness, Leica! I kept my DL7 and bought the Fuji X-T50 that I love. Great video. Thank you.
I agree on the price. But then again prices of camera’s and prices in general went crazy the last two - three years. I have had the X100V for about 4 years and I still own the GR3. I think the D-Lux 8 is a great every day camera. It has its issues, the bluetooth setting solves the biggest ones, but I enjoy the simplicity of the camera, the great lens, the zoom possibility. It has a flexibility that the X100V and GR3 miss for my needs even if those two produce better quality images. I find the user experience of the d-lux8 better and the joy of using a camera is probably the most important thing. This can change in the future since our interests evolve. For now I am enjoying it! I hope they will make the camera even better with future firmware upgrades. We will have to see. Thanks for the review!
Thanks for sharing your experience and view. For me the camera simply gave me a negative experience. And you are probably right to state the future firmware could change it, thing is that i have no clue when the next firmware will be released.
If the issues you had are genuine problems with the camera and not just really not knowing fully how to use the camera, then that's not good. But I get the feeling you're not yet ready for a Leica. You don't buy a Leica because you want Nikon or Canon speed, you buy a Leica because you want to get back to the roots of what photography is. There is no hurry, you already know how to read the light and the shadows, you already know the color temperature of the scene you're looking at. I shoot motorsport with Nikon cameras and super-fast lenses, but nothing gives me greater joy than picking up my Leica mono chrome and wandering around the streets, happy in the knowledge that I don't need it to think for me. It doesn't have to be perfect; it just has to be good enough. I have been photographing for a long time, and I love the Leica for the memory's it evokes when I could just look at a scene and know in my mind what the iso shutter speed and aperture should be, I know the high key and low-key points in the scene. I don't want to edit, because for me, that's then not the scene I was looking at, Thats the purist form of photography. And my Leica never fails to take me on that journey.
Hi Clint, thank you for sharing your experience. I am not a novice to Leica far from it. The DLux 8 is by far the biggest disappointment i have had with any camera from whatever brand over the last 10 years. More worryingly the M11, Q3 and Q3-43 seem to suffer from similar bugs (freezing, suddenly switching off etc) so when I look at it something is off there. That aside the DLux 8, except for its menu system isn't an upgrade from the DLux 7 or Lumix LX100-II. In my experience a very negative experience. If I compare it with my Q or CL, the shooting experience on those two cameras is actually fantastic.
Respectfully, I have multiple Leica cameras, and I have never once had to take my battery out to restart a camera for any reason period. I have also never had an issue with a single camera waking up from sleep mode. I respect your experiences, I’ve just never had any of them and I shoot with a Leica daily. I own about a dozen cameras that I would use to produce more serious photos, but they are bigger and heavier, so I would never keep them on me daily. I have smaller mirrorless Canon cameras, and they are not nearly as portable as the Leica D Lux series. I believe the issue is having unrealistic expectations for the cameras you own, regardless of which camera it is. My smaller Leicas have been extremely impactful for me because they help me slow down to find the beauty in the everyday world around me. Since I have a camera on me daily, which has fully manual features that make photography much more rewarding than taking a picture with a phone, I want to spend more time taking photos. As a result, I pace myself, and I’m more intentional about capturing the beauty in the world every single day. I run a national business, which has its weight to it. The cameras have been a blessing and removed a lot of that weight, while also helping me create lifelong memories in the most beautiful way possible.
The Dlux 8 out of all the Leicas I own (x2, CL Digital, TL, Q and M240) was the biggest disappointment as the issues it has, should and can easily be fixed. Leica chose not to. I enjoy Leica cameras, the DLux 8 simply isn't up to the standard. Which seems a broader issue. The M11 suffers from jitters with quite a few users, so does the Q3 and Q3-43. Problem is that it is inconsistent. Which indicates other issues within Leica manufacturing
@@PaulTakesPhotos today I had to take my battery out, for the first time ever. The first person I thought about was you. How did you get to my camera and make it do that lol.
I thought this would have great potential as a x100 and griii competitor but it doesn't seem to stack up in terms of user experience, while it does offer something unique zoom wise. I wanted something more compact and had my eye on this but I passed it up in favour of buying the viltrox pancake 28mm for my a7iv. Safe to say the lens has made it a great deal easier to handle while still being the camera I am so familiar and comfortable with.
I've had my D-Lux 8 for more than a month and love it! Have not had any of the issues you had. Did you try resetting the camera? Or maybe you just (unfortunately) got one with some issues. Sorry that you had the issues. Maybe another one would work well for you.
Could well be the case but it really threw me off this model. And still feel Leica hasnt done much to take care of the issues I faced, which are 100% firmware fixable. Some comments highlighted that the bluetooth needs to be switched off. Which I had. Sadly still these jitters similar to Leica Q3 and M11. Bit of a pattern, me thinks
@@PaulTakesPhotos Again, very sorry that you have had the various issues....and it's the fact that you've had multiple issues (not just one....) that makes me wonder if there is an issue with this specific camera. I have no way to know for sure, but makes me wonder about it. Ideally, it would be good for Leica to check camera to determine if this is the case or not. Although given that you have similar issues with your other cameras is troubling.....maybe it is time to sacrifice a goat to the Leica gods? just a though..... ;-) Probably worked for me, as I also have a Leica CL and it works great....and previously had a M240 which worked great too.....
I had the LX-3, and at the time it served a great purpose: a square-frame 24mm pocket camera. I shot it alongside my Sony A7 and (mostly) loved it. The lack of EVF sucked. And it was meant to be an LX-5 with the EVF support. And it was in Japanese. But I spent maybe $120 CAD on it. No way I would spend Leica money on a Panasonic, though.
The white balance is a little off time to time on mine as well but it seems to be also same on real Leica from my experience so in that sense it’s a true Leica 😂 What I don’t understand in your video is the complain about the slow zoom lense extension given it’s the exact same as lx100 that you already own so you know it’s quirks unless you expected Leica to improve it ? ( they don’t really now how to improve things in general just simplify it to a point it become regression )
@@JTC1979 thanks for sharing your feedback. Yes I would expect in the 8th iteration of a product to see some improvement in for instance the zoom speeds of a lens :)
@@PaulTakesPhotos I bought it too knowing some of the quirks and didnt expect huge improvement (they could have at least use the last and bigger m43 sensors to increase resolution and performances) but worst that that is the regression of the features (mainly step zoom) and I thought the so praised leica menu and support would make it but its disappointing so far , leica menu are just meh and firmware looks buggy and unfinished , jpg ooc are meh as well (except the BW HC) and raw is just raw nothing to rave about (its even downgraded if you used burst shot due to the lower bitrange ) still I kinda like it but idk if its because its stll an lx100 at its core or because its just fancy leica name on it. I want to keep trying but they dont really help with such bad support and choices
Thanks so much for your sacrifice! I hope you got all your money back. I had a feeling this camera was going to be warmed up leftovers. For that much money it should be awesome. I'm much more interested in seeing about the rumoured Fuji half frame compact that is supposedly coming. I'm gonna hold on to my old Canon G5X (OG) for now. I wish I hadn't passed up the used G5X mk2s for 500! They be over a grand now here in Germany. 🤯
I love mft cameras but this one is just not up to standard. Fuji rumours are plenty quite curious what it will be. That said I am a bit wary of the direction Fuji is going into. 500 bucks for that camera.... A steal :) pity you passed it on. Maybe too good to be true
I own the Canon G5X MKII but it's hard to compare to the D-Lux 8. The one thing that triggers me every time I use it is it's af. The AF of the D-Lux might not be the fastest, but the one from the Canon is the worst expirience since my 5D MKI. There are so many situations where it predicts to have focused but it doesn't. The D-Lux misses often foreground to background but the Canon is going to nowhere. With the Leica you really fast learn why something is happening, the Canon is totally unpredictable. I lost a lot of shot because of this. It's very pron to collect dust in the lens and also to the sensor.
so lx100 is better than the dlux8? this is unexpected. the lens zoom motors are schnitzel on the lx too but you could use it on the previously used length and just the startup time is slow for the extension
@@xpucmogrozdanov6391 if I am honest there are some differences in performance between the lx100 and dlux8 but not many, much to my surprise and to be honest I think the lx100ii is the best buy if you are considering all the options
Historically with the D-LUX since the "100" series, .. there is a blue cast to the photos, and apparently this is continuing. As for me, if this Panisonic -Leica would add a tilt screen i would not care about the blue-tinted photos, as even the Q-series has a green tint.
Colour sciences are unique to every camera manufacturer. I do agree the cast and tendencies to shift either direction is fine. The auto WB on the Dlux 8 seems to randomly act out.
Yeah, those minor irritations can become big irritations when looking at what you paid for the camera. Not good. I'm shooting a LX100 ii as a small EDC. I don't mind the minor issues too much (for now?) since I bought it as a second hand camera for a reasonable price. Will probably get a Sony A7C ii or A7CR as a main street and travel camera next
You'd think that Leica taking the LX100 Mk II would have made it into a more mature Leica product. I looked at the camera because I'd missed out on the LX100 Mk II, but I decided that it was too much for an experiment.
oh that missing "resume focal length on startup" feature is really a bummer. The Olympus PEN E-P/L M43 compact cameras do have that feature with power zooms. also leica is known for shitty firmware bugs :) I honestly wouldn't spend that money on a rebadged Lumix
This is Leica all over, I'm afraid and I speck as a former Leica shooter who got fed up with putting up with strange quirks with Leica digital cameras.
@@PaulTakesPhotos I was also an early adpoter of the Leica Q which to be fair was pretty much close to a perfect Leica product (for once). But I found it profoundly boring as a camera and decided I preferred using my Ricoh GR, so I sold the Q.
It is not a Micro Four Thirds camera. It does not have a Micro Four Thirds sensor. Micro Four Thirds is a lens mount standard for interchangeable lenses, not a sensor. This camera has a 4/3" sensor. All Micro Four Thirds cameras use 4/3" sensors, but not all cameras with 4/3" sensors are Micro Four Thirds.
Thats a bit nitpicky. It's a Four Thirds sensor, Micro Four Thirds is the mount. No one is taking about a Four Thirds sensor today anomore, most of us call it mFT sensor. It's also not fullframe it's 35mm and so on.
@@Benjamin_Jehne Four Thirds is also not a sensor, it's also a lens mount. 4/3" is the sensor size, just like 1" is the sensor size. You wouldn't say the Sony RX100 cameras are Nikon 1 cameras, or use Nikon 1 sensors, just because they happen to be the same sensor size, would you?
As a long time Leica user of more than 25 years, the moment I read the specs of this camera, I knew it was just an exercise in cashing in the very sudden popularity of the Leica cameras. It has nothing to offer that a proper MFT camera of 2015 couldn't do better., and at a fraction of the price. BTW, all those who sing the praises of Fuji this and Fuji that, had better just grab an Olympus EM5 MKII or MK III and realise how archaic their beloved X100s are, and they are cheaper with the ability to change lenses. BTW, I really hate the look of that zoom lens on this camera when extended.
Hello there, I've owned the D-Lux type 109 for 6 years and the D-Lux 7 for 6 years and bought the D-Lux 8 a few months ago and I've never experienced any of the problems that you mentioned. I treat them as compact camera's and accept them as just that. I don't think of these cameras as serious tools, just fun to have with me when out and about hiking and walking.... thanks for the video
@@alanjones8579 I do own a lot of point and shooters, so I am not a novice, that said maybe I have a bad copy. Sadly it is not the image quality or the build quality being the issue, it is really the bugs in areas that I have not experienced before.
For the amount of money Leica demands for a new-skin 8, I expected more. I agree with everything said in this video. The zoom is also ridiculously slow.
I was thinking the same things you said. I have a few of the older D Lux cameras, as well as the 7. I also have the Type 109. I have never experienced any of these issues, ever. I have never taken my battery out for any reason. I also never tried to wake the camera up for it to fail. I have thoroughly enjoyed each of my cameras. I have not bought the 8 yet, but I’m planning to, but I may wait for the next sensor to be released or I may buy the Q3. I keep my D Lux 7 on me daily, and it has given me countless moments of peace, joy and created beautiful art in the process.
So you can set your D-LUX 8 in the custom menu so when you turn it on, the zoom goes to whatever focal length you set it on? My old Ricoh GX200 had this function and it was really useful.
Any camera that has a pro lens, and at least 16mp... is absolutely a Pro-Camera in the hands of a Pro-fessional Photographer.. However if you equate "it has to have more MP to be a pro" ,.. then of course you are a Camera NOOB... self defined.
If you turn it off, it's the Bluetooth or the camera is still writing to the card. Thats the thing with the buffer, what you expirienced while shooting, the buffer is really small.
Like you said, most of the points could be corrected via firmware, I don't get it why they not correct some of the issues. They're easy to fix and would make this camera even better to sell. I don't have the issue with the WB. I think it is very accurate most of the times and is able to pick the right Kelvin even in more complex situations, where I see others struggle.
The camera itself is more a bunch of quirks as it is a perfect camera but I have to say that I love to use it as my second camera to the A1 at events etc. It might not be super fast with the zoom, but when I think about what it is, I'm ok with it. Some argue the price is to high but this thing fits a purpose. The package is small, you get a very bright lens that you don't get for normal mFT cameras and you get something that is really stands out and that is the EVF. For this size of camera, it's the best evf I ever have seen.
In the end I understand if someone says no, thats to much quirks but I don't think I would like to give up on this little camera.
Thanks for a balanced response. The firmware is one thing that mystifies me. And you are right to highlight the max aperture on the zoom lens. Unfortunately the entire experience didn't agree with me
I've been using a Fujifilm X-M1 for a while, looking for a change, and always liked the look of the LX100 so nearly bought the D-Lux 8. But at £1500 I couldn't justify the price. I bought a used Fujifilm X30, for a third of the price, instead and love it! Startup in a couple seconds, EVF, tilt screen, manual zoom with OIS, mic port! Yes the sensor is smaller but really for posting online it's enough and the picture quality is what you expect of Fuji. btw. I fell for the Lumix S9 marketing and ended up returning that so I know how you feel, buyers remorse.
Well there are so many good options out there for that price range and indeed the older mft and Fuji cams still pack loads of punch for an affordable pricing. I just bought the S9 but for one specific reason (episode coming up). Let's see how it lives up
Thank You Very Much!! I was about to buy this, but this review made the decision for me. I'll spend my $$ on a different camera. You're exactly correct: "unexceptable" 🖖🥰
Happy that it helped you make a decision. Which camera are you going for?
I have a 7 and I can say Paul is bang on with his comments about this camera. I bought an XT50, kept the Leica and glad I didn’t get the 8 too.
@@PaulTakesPhotos I think I'll go for the Sony A7CR or wait to see if Fuji will release the E5 in 2025. 🖖🤩
I had a D-LUX 8 too, but just for less than two months. Then I returned it to the dealer, because of some of the issues, you mentioned. I got full refund, no trouble here and bought in November a brand new SL2s for just under €2,800 or 21,000 DKK. Best buy ever and a superb supplement to my M240 and M240P. Thanks for sharing and keep on rolling!
Sadly I am not the only one who feels Dlux 8 being a dud.
Just a question on the SL2s, doesn't that camera have the same specs as the Lumix S5(II)?
You’ve just described all the annoying little things about my D-Lyx 7, Paul! I’m glad someone else complains about the slowww zoom lens, and the other seemingly minor, yet annoying idiosyncrasies of what could have been fabulous cameras to compete with the Fuji 100x series. When I originally saw the D-Lux 8 specs earlier this year I was astonished that Leica put out an old camera that had a new skin and was just named the 8. Pure laziness, Leica! I kept my DL7 and bought the Fuji X-T50 that I love. Great video. Thank you.
Probably a better purchase for the money :)
I agree on the price. But then again prices of camera’s and prices in general went crazy the last two - three years. I have had the X100V for about 4 years and I still own the GR3. I think the D-Lux 8 is a great every day camera. It has its issues, the bluetooth setting solves the biggest ones, but I enjoy the simplicity of the camera, the great lens, the zoom possibility. It has a flexibility that the X100V and GR3 miss for my needs even if those two produce better quality images. I find the user experience of the d-lux8 better and the joy of using a camera is probably the most important thing. This can change in the future since our interests evolve. For now I am enjoying it! I hope they will make the camera even better with future firmware upgrades. We will have to see. Thanks for the review!
Thanks for sharing your experience and view. For me the camera simply gave me a negative experience. And you are probably right to state the future firmware could change it, thing is that i have no clue when the next firmware will be released.
I agree with all your comments. My biggest gripe was with the barrel extension lens. I had the D-Lux 7. Sold it and got an M8
Hi Rene! Utterly disappointing experience. The LX100 provides a more stable experience
If the issues you had are genuine problems with the camera and not just really not knowing fully how to use the camera, then that's not good. But I get the feeling you're not yet ready for a Leica. You don't buy a Leica because you want Nikon or Canon speed, you buy a Leica because you want to get back to the roots of what photography is. There is no hurry, you already know how to read the light and the shadows, you already know the color temperature of the scene you're looking at.
I shoot motorsport with Nikon cameras and super-fast lenses, but nothing gives me greater joy than picking up my Leica mono chrome and wandering around the streets, happy in the knowledge that I don't need it to think for me. It doesn't have to be perfect; it just has to be good enough. I have been photographing for a long time, and I love the Leica for the memory's it evokes when I could just look at a scene and know in my mind what the iso shutter speed and aperture should be, I know the high key and low-key points in the scene. I don't want to edit, because for me, that's then not the scene I was looking at, Thats the purist form of photography. And my Leica never fails to take me on that journey.
Hi Clint, thank you for sharing your experience. I am not a novice to Leica far from it. The DLux 8 is by far the biggest disappointment i have had with any camera from whatever brand over the last 10 years. More worryingly the M11, Q3 and Q3-43 seem to suffer from similar bugs (freezing, suddenly switching off etc) so when I look at it something is off there.
That aside the DLux 8, except for its menu system isn't an upgrade from the DLux 7 or Lumix LX100-II. In my experience a very negative experience. If I compare it with my Q or CL, the shooting experience on those two cameras is actually fantastic.
Agree and i returned mine for the same reason after Leica denyed that there was something wrong with the camera!
By far the most disappointing camera release in a long time.
Respectfully, I have multiple Leica cameras, and I have never once had to take my battery out to restart a camera for any reason period. I have also never had an issue with a single camera waking up from sleep mode. I respect your experiences, I’ve just never had any of them and I shoot with a Leica daily.
I own about a dozen cameras that I would use to produce more serious photos, but they are bigger and heavier, so I would never keep them on me daily. I have smaller mirrorless Canon cameras, and they are not nearly as portable as the Leica D Lux series. I believe the issue is having unrealistic expectations for the cameras you own, regardless of which camera it is.
My smaller Leicas have been extremely impactful for me because they help me slow down to find the beauty in the everyday world around me. Since I have a camera on me daily, which has fully manual features that make photography much more rewarding than taking a picture with a phone, I want to spend more time taking photos. As a result, I pace myself, and I’m more intentional about capturing the beauty in the world every single day. I run a national business, which has its weight to it. The cameras have been a blessing and removed a lot of that weight, while also helping me create lifelong memories in the most beautiful way possible.
The Dlux 8 out of all the Leicas I own (x2, CL Digital, TL, Q and M240) was the biggest disappointment as the issues it has, should and can easily be fixed. Leica chose not to.
I enjoy Leica cameras, the DLux 8 simply isn't up to the standard. Which seems a broader issue. The M11 suffers from jitters with quite a few users, so does the Q3 and Q3-43. Problem is that it is inconsistent. Which indicates other issues within Leica manufacturing
@ I guess I’m just favored because my D Lux 7 has no issues at all. I’m grateful for that. I hate that these are yours and others experience.
@@PaulTakesPhotos today I had to take my battery out, for the first time ever. The first person I thought about was you. How did you get to my camera and make it do that lol.
I thought this would have great potential as a x100 and griii competitor but it doesn't seem to stack up in terms of user experience, while it does offer something unique zoom wise.
I wanted something more compact and had my eye on this but I passed it up in favour of buying the viltrox pancake 28mm for my a7iv. Safe to say the lens has made it a great deal easier to handle while still being the camera I am so familiar and comfortable with.
Great camera, I own a A7IIi which I use specifically for big public events. Paired with the right lens of choice, great value proposition.
I've had my D-Lux 8 for more than a month and love it! Have not had any of the issues you had. Did you try resetting the camera? Or maybe you just (unfortunately) got one with some issues. Sorry that you had the issues. Maybe another one would work well for you.
Could well be the case but it really threw me off this model. And still feel Leica hasnt done much to take care of the issues I faced, which are 100% firmware fixable. Some comments highlighted that the bluetooth needs to be switched off. Which I had. Sadly still these jitters similar to Leica Q3 and M11. Bit of a pattern, me thinks
@@PaulTakesPhotos Again, very sorry that you have had the various issues....and it's the fact that you've had multiple issues (not just one....) that makes me wonder if there is an issue with this specific camera. I have no way to know for sure, but makes me wonder about it. Ideally, it would be good for Leica to check camera to determine if this is the case or not. Although given that you have similar issues with your other cameras is troubling.....maybe it is time to sacrifice a goat to the Leica gods? just a though..... ;-) Probably worked for me, as I also have a Leica CL and it works great....and previously had a M240 which worked great too.....
I had the LX-3, and at the time it served a great purpose: a square-frame 24mm pocket camera. I shot it alongside my Sony A7 and (mostly) loved it. The lack of EVF sucked. And it was meant to be an LX-5 with the EVF support. And it was in Japanese. But I spent maybe $120 CAD on it. No way I would spend Leica money on a Panasonic, though.
It is indeed a pana with Leica branding, build and menus. This was an utterly disappointing experience
Couldn’t agree more!
Disable Bluetooth to mitigate the long turn off it’s due to the Bluetooth hanging
The white balance is a little off time to time on mine as well but it seems to be also same on real Leica from my experience so in that sense it’s a true Leica 😂
What I don’t understand in your video is the complain about the slow zoom lense extension given it’s the exact same as lx100 that you already own so you know it’s quirks unless you expected Leica to improve it ? ( they don’t really now how to improve things in general just simplify it to a point it become regression )
@@JTC1979 thanks for sharing your feedback. Yes I would expect in the 8th iteration of a product to see some improvement in for instance the zoom speeds of a lens :)
@@PaulTakesPhotos I bought it too knowing some of the quirks and didnt expect huge improvement (they could have at least use the last and bigger m43 sensors to increase resolution and performances) but worst that that is the regression of the features (mainly step zoom) and I thought the so praised leica menu and support would make it but its disappointing so far , leica menu are just meh and firmware looks buggy and unfinished , jpg ooc are meh as well (except the BW HC) and raw is just raw nothing to rave about (its even downgraded if you used burst shot due to the lower bitrange )
still I kinda like it but idk if its because its stll an lx100 at its core or because its just fancy leica name on it. I want to keep trying but they dont really help with such bad support and choices
Thanks so much for your sacrifice! I hope you got all your money back. I had a feeling this camera was going to be warmed up leftovers. For that much money it should be awesome. I'm much more interested in seeing about the rumoured Fuji half frame compact that is supposedly coming. I'm gonna hold on to my old Canon G5X (OG) for now. I wish I hadn't passed up the used G5X mk2s for 500! They be over a grand now here in Germany. 🤯
I love mft cameras but this one is just not up to standard. Fuji rumours are plenty quite curious what it will be. That said I am a bit wary of the direction Fuji is going into.
500 bucks for that camera.... A steal :) pity you passed it on. Maybe too good to be true
I own the Canon G5X MKII but it's hard to compare to the D-Lux 8. The one thing that triggers me every time I use it is it's af. The AF of the D-Lux might not be the fastest, but the one from the Canon is the worst expirience since my 5D MKI. There are so many situations where it predicts to have focused but it doesn't. The D-Lux misses often foreground to background but the Canon is going to nowhere. With the Leica you really fast learn why something is happening, the Canon is totally unpredictable. I lost a lot of shot because of this. It's very pron to collect dust in the lens and also to the sensor.
Great video！
Thank you, glad you found it helpful
I really wanted to love the D-LUX 8 as I'm looking for am upgrade to my old Ricoh GR. Sadly the 8 isn't looking a likely contender. Such a shame.
@@tomfenn7149 best fixed lens camera with a zoom lens remains Lumix LX100II best value for money
so lx100 is better than the dlux8? this is unexpected. the lens zoom motors are schnitzel on the lx too but you could use it on the previously used length and just the startup time is slow for the extension
@@xpucmogrozdanov6391 if I am honest there are some differences in performance between the lx100 and dlux8 but not many, much to my surprise and to be honest I think the lx100ii is the best buy if you are considering all the options
Historically with the D-LUX since the "100" series, .. there is a blue cast to the photos, and apparently this is continuing. As for me, if this Panisonic -Leica would add a tilt screen i would not care about the blue-tinted photos, as even the Q-series has a green tint.
Colour sciences are unique to every camera manufacturer. I do agree the cast and tendencies to shift either direction is fine. The auto WB on the Dlux 8 seems to randomly act out.
💡 Prefer: Nikon Z50 ii...
+ Laowa 12-24mm tilt/shift
👌🏼
Never shot on the Nikon Z-mount. It is growing on me though 👍😉
Yeah, those minor irritations can become big irritations when looking at what you paid for the camera. Not good. I'm shooting a LX100 ii as a small EDC. I don't mind the minor issues too much (for now?) since I bought it as a second hand camera for a reasonable price. Will probably get a Sony A7C ii or A7CR as a main street and travel camera next
Indeed it is the minor things that impact positively or negatively on the photography experience doesn't it?
You'd think that Leica taking the LX100 Mk II would have made it into a more mature Leica product. I looked at the camera because I'd missed out on the LX100 Mk II, but I decided that it was too much for an experiment.
@@SakaphotoGraphics the lx100ii is probably the best choice.
oh that missing "resume focal length on startup" feature is really a bummer. The Olympus PEN E-P/L M43 compact cameras do have that feature with power zooms.
also leica is known for shitty firmware bugs :) I honestly wouldn't spend that money on a rebadged Lumix
@@recreationalplutonium thanks for that, didn't know that. PEN is still on the list
This is Leica all over, I'm afraid and I speck as a former Leica shooter who got fed up with putting up with strange quirks with Leica digital cameras.
Sadly yes, Leica Q3 and M11 seem to have similar issues at times, doesn't seem to be consistent either. The latter sparking my interest
@@PaulTakesPhotos I was also an early adpoter of the Leica Q which to be fair was pretty much close to a perfect Leica product (for once). But I found it profoundly boring as a camera and decided I preferred using my Ricoh GR, so I sold the Q.
I wonder if it's buggy since it comes from China. Or is it bad software? Hmmm!
You forgot it is Panasonic. Basic layer of firmware is from Japan. Nice menus are ... nobody knows who wrote the code. And parts are MiC.
Yeah rub it in :)
You could have bought the LUMIX LX100II, which is pretty much the same camera, for 650 Euros less.
@@distomos8118 I came to that conclusion too :(
I would have liked to finish watching your video, but the annoying pop-ups and sound effects were just too distracting to me.
I am sorry about that, will take it into account for the upcoming episodes. Thank you for the feedback
No Flippy screen as well? Pass
Buy a griii. It’s perfect.
Already own it, the GRIIIX that is
It's a camera of missed opportunities. Practically no improvements to its predecessor at a ridiculous price and TBH I never liked MFT anyway... 🤷🏻♂️
You worded it well: a missed opportunity
As a street photographer, turning on the camera and taking three or four seconds to set is a joke! Most the time you’ll miss the shot.
Next camera!
@@simon359 indeed so returned and don't regret it
Thumbs down for that stupid sound effect man. SMH 🤦🏽♂️
Bit harsh isnt it
It is not a Micro Four Thirds camera. It does not have a Micro Four Thirds sensor. Micro Four Thirds is a lens mount standard for interchangeable lenses, not a sensor. This camera has a 4/3" sensor. All Micro Four Thirds cameras use 4/3" sensors, but not all cameras with 4/3" sensors are Micro Four Thirds.
Interesting thank you for educating me. Learned something
Thats a bit nitpicky. It's a Four Thirds sensor, Micro Four Thirds is the mount. No one is taking about a Four Thirds sensor today anomore, most of us call it mFT sensor. It's also not fullframe it's 35mm and so on.
@@Benjamin_Jehne Four Thirds is also not a sensor, it's also a lens mount. 4/3" is the sensor size, just like 1" is the sensor size. You wouldn't say the Sony RX100 cameras are Nikon 1 cameras, or use Nikon 1 sensors, just because they happen to be the same sensor size, would you?
Fuji x100vi like new second hand MPB £1560 is far superior in every way to the Leica.
Really 1560? A while back I saw it at that same mpb.com for nearly 3k.
In all honesty my Lumix GX80 does was better than the dlux 8
And it zooms so nice….😂
As a long time Leica user of more than 25 years, the moment I read the specs of this camera, I knew it was just an exercise in cashing in the very sudden popularity of the Leica cameras. It has nothing to offer that a proper MFT camera of 2015 couldn't do better., and at a fraction of the price. BTW, all those who sing the praises of Fuji this and Fuji that, had better just grab an Olympus EM5 MKII or MK III and realise how archaic their beloved X100s are, and they are cheaper with the ability to change lenses. BTW, I really hate the look of that zoom lens on this camera when extended.
@@PaulTakesPhotos check it out, price has fallen down to the price of what was a new x100v, two weeks ago the price was £1890. GX80 is a great camera.
Absolutely ❤
It's all a cheap compact by Panasonic... rebadged with the L logo and 5x the price... 😂😂😂 another happy customer
Pretty much!
Pretty much!
Just buy Japanese cameras they are better in every way.
Well Leica Q series are excellent. Bit on the pricey side though
It’s a rebadged Panasonic camera
That camera at that price is a joke
It's no joke 🤣