youtube has slowely become the same as network television with that stuff, intros, long winded and dragged out intros, shitty jokes that no one laughs at. very few can pull it off but it is a breath of fresh air to see someone start a video getting right into it.
This video was phenomenal, the great examples shown to help grasp the subject, incredible tight editing and best off, as a mid tier player with 1000s of hrs with sns, i know can grasp that "thing" setting me back from that next ceiling of learning my weapon! thank you!!
Super good video man. Thanks for including all the little details that are often overlooked. Particularly your advice with the Type 1 v Type 2 control settings. Those little details make all the difference in gameplay so I appreciate you including them! Thanks and have a good one!
Missing my favorite trick I learned from watching a speedrun: Guard rolling into slinger burst into perfect rush Starting with weapon sheathed. Was the game changer that made me love sns. Trick is needing to hold a direction while holding slinger aim (delayed a bit to not claw uppercut) and timing the slinger mode change/ It should look instant slinger burst at the end of the roll looking like you were in the slinger burst mode in the first place not seeing the switch as sns seems to swap back to normal slinger every time stowed and drawed again.
Over all the videos about SnS, this is probably the best one, clear and absolutely usefull, without getting teh feeling to deal with an extremly high difficult mechanic that is impossible to pull without tons of training. Thanks !
I play on type-2 for SnS and I have a slight tip on the timing for getting these turn around back back steps. The easiest way to get it consistently during the roll animation (note this is forward roll, side to side roll I am not sure if you can do this) but is to look for when the characters legs begin to hit the ground. The easiest way to get this down is to go into training mode and have the weapon out, and do a roll to the right, flick the stick over to the left and as you see the legs begin to come into the floor (it's your leading foot, for the SnS this is your left foot) to the ground, hit b and you will do a turn around in the opposite direction. This works for ALL directions you can go in as long as you are doing a normal roll and not the weird animation cancel side roll. You can even do a top left roll to a turn around roll to attack the direction you just came from by simply flicking the stick back in into the bottom right. This makes it incredibly consistent to get these kind of crazy dodges and rolls off to set up for a shield bash dive for a stun or a p.Rush. Just a little something I noticed today working more with the SnS
Something I just recently found out about the SnS was how to use the slinger burst. I just wish it wasn't so clunky to setup (at least using KnM) cause being able to slinger burst into perfect rush is very fun and doesn't require the normal backstep.
Quick back stepping from guard. I found it most comfortable to press guard, slash, then the direction is quick succession. This isn’t the only timing I used that works, just the one that I succeeded the most often.
I just got back into mhw and was feeling daunted about facing high rank now but luckily there are so many amazing guides like this one to help me master the game and sns
Just so you know, rising slash from shield to unsheeth, if performed fast enough, does benefit from crit draw. Just tested this with 0% affinity and crit draw 3, it will always crit from sheeth to shield + rising slash. This does not apply to any hit follow up of backstep from sheeth.
I started 3 weeks ago and I'm already at MR7 and was thinking of switching to something new since LS is so slow and Dualies get mind numbing to spam, i think this is it. Thanks
5:26 just to state what i understood: a claw uppercut will either tenderize if already hit once or add to the tenderize count? Basically this is a shorter animation than actually zipping across with the hook? In this scenario, you save downtime by skipping the tenderize animation then? I was wondering why you had to run.
A claw uppercut does the same tenderize damage as the light weapons' clutch claw attacks, i.e. you can tenderize a part with two claw uppercuts, or a claw uppercut followed by the SnS's clutch claw attack, etc.. Technically, it's faster to reset the clagger animation by firing the clutch claw itself, but it's more optimal to claw uppercut to also deal tenderize damage in the process. Also, it's not required to sheath and run, but running makes it easier to reposition yourself to get a better angle to claw uppercut, so you don't latch on to an incorrect body part. If you try to reposition yourself but don't run, you are at risk of not landing the claw uppercut in time before the monster recovers from clagger.
Always wonder how people roll while weapon sheath but still able to do the claw. So it's actually guard+roll. Damn the "guard" can be so useful now. I feel so dumb to barely use it. 😂 Also I agree that that move "guard slash" is so dump. What's dumb about it is that you can't even do any follow moves after that guard slash.
Another very important piece of advice (I uploaded footage in my channel though it’s a very short video) is that you can get essentially infinite mount attacks with sword and shield if timed right. Guaranteed tremendous damage on mount. And a KO if you master the timing enough. In the video I say my record is 8, but since then my record has gone up to 14 attacks on mount.
Once, recently, i hit the backstep as Velkhana tried to stab me, and hit the forward leap right as he hit the 2nd stab right where i had been a frame before. Didnt get the clip though😢
Not necessarily. You cannot run while using an item in this manner, making it more dangerous. Since the sword & shield's sheathing time is so short, it's usually better to just sheathe first.
It's more for stopping mid combo to save an ally, rather than running away to save yourself. Usually with this kind of build, you have max speed eating anyways
My boi thanks a lot, I saw these techniques on a speedrun video and couldn't figure out what exactly was happening as I barely touched sns... Know everything fits perfectly. And by the way, any hint for the perfect rush? Sometimes I miss the timing and dunno exactly what to do
Me too, I'd seen speedrunners doing claw uppercuts and perfect rushes while sheathed and couldn't figure it out. There were no videos like this back then, at least none that I could find.
There's an audio cue for it if you pay attention in the training area. Sounds like a wind rush of sorts. Character will also slightly glow red. If you're on controller(and your controller supports it), it'll also vibrate with the correct timing to hit the button.
Backstep in Rise has 40 s at 60 fps, but is not affected by evade window or evade extender, and cannot trigger evasion-based armor skills like adrenaline rush.
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I can pull off the backstep 100% of the time in the training room, but end up facing the opposite direction when fighting the monster.
Cause you have more than one thing to worry during a hunt
Sides lash fucks it up 75% of the time for me I freaking hate that shii, I'm glad they removed it in rise. It's so much flow now.
there's a mod in nexus that converts the input for guard slash into backstep and its made the SnS so much better
Got a link? @@chaptereight3406
@@automato436completely disagree. Side slash made everything flow so much better
Bro respect, for getting straight into thw content at the start of the video. Its so rare to get a video without a bunch of BS it caught me off guard.
youtube has slowely become the same as network television with that stuff, intros, long winded and dragged out intros, shitty jokes that no one laughs at. very few can pull it off but it is a breath of fresh air to see someone start a video getting right into it.
Totally agree, I'm liking and subbing for that fact.
@@Aqsticgod If the intro is longer than the topic. I'm not interested in the video.
As a new SNS main coming from the Glaive I found this guide very useful without going deep into stuff that felt obvious or useless. Fantastic guide
You missed one, you can access Perfect Rush from slinger burst. Which is very handy when dealing with attack like Velkna freezing ground.
That's true. This is a guide on backstep and not perfect rush though, so that's why I didn't mention it.
This video was phenomenal, the great examples shown to help grasp the subject, incredible tight editing and best off, as a mid tier player with 1000s of hrs with sns, i know can grasp that "thing" setting me back from that next ceiling of learning my weapon! thank you!!
Super good video man. Thanks for including all the little details that are often overlooked. Particularly your advice with the Type 1 v Type 2 control settings. Those little details make all the difference in gameplay so I appreciate you including them! Thanks and have a good one!
The roll guard uppercut to dismount then perfect rush is next on my things to learn list. Thx
Missing my favorite trick I learned from watching a speedrun: Guard rolling into slinger burst into perfect rush Starting with weapon sheathed. Was the game changer that made me love sns. Trick is needing to hold a direction while holding slinger aim (delayed a bit to not claw uppercut) and timing the slinger mode change/ It should look instant slinger burst at the end of the roll looking like you were in the slinger burst mode in the first place not seeing the switch as sns seems to swap back to normal slinger every time stowed and drawed again.
Over all the videos about SnS, this is probably the best one, clear and absolutely usefull, without getting teh feeling to deal with an extremly high difficult mechanic that is impossible to pull without tons of training. Thanks !
I play on type-2 for SnS and I have a slight tip on the timing for getting these turn around back back steps.
The easiest way to get it consistently during the roll animation (note this is forward roll, side to side roll I am not sure if you can do this) but is to look for when the characters legs begin to hit the ground. The easiest way to get this down is to go into training mode and have the weapon out, and do a roll to the right, flick the stick over to the left and as you see the legs begin to come into the floor (it's your leading foot, for the SnS this is your left foot) to the ground, hit b and you will do a turn around in the opposite direction. This works for ALL directions you can go in as long as you are doing a normal roll and not the weird animation cancel side roll. You can even do a top left roll to a turn around roll to attack the direction you just came from by simply flicking the stick back in into the bottom right. This makes it incredibly consistent to get these kind of crazy dodges and rolls off to set up for a shield bash dive for a stun or a p.Rush.
Just a little something I noticed today working more with the SnS
Something I just recently found out about the SnS was how to use the slinger burst. I just wish it wasn't so clunky to setup (at least using KnM) cause being able to slinger burst into perfect rush is very fun and doesn't require the normal backstep.
Bro you have no idea how this little move of guarding to unsheathe changed my playstyle at 5:13
Same! I practice this now all the time in the training area - will try this out in claggered monsters everytime lmao
Quick back stepping from guard. I found it most comfortable to press guard, slash, then the direction is quick succession. This isn’t the only timing I used that works, just the one that I succeeded the most often.
Thank you so much coming from a newbie SnS main
That guard techs changed my perspective
I just got back into mhw and was feeling daunted about facing high rank now but luckily there are so many amazing guides like this one to help me master the game and sns
Bro what? A free instant backstep? This is a game changer. Ty dude.
Great video man, I'm sending this to my buddy who's new to monhun and maining sns
Just so you know, rising slash from shield to unsheeth, if performed fast enough, does benefit from crit draw.
Just tested this with 0% affinity and crit draw 3, it will always crit from sheeth to shield + rising slash.
This does not apply to any hit follow up of backstep from sheeth.
I can vouch for Type 2 on MnK. Feels good. Never miss a back step.
Really encouraged me to practice sns more!
I started 3 weeks ago and I'm already at MR7 and was thinking of switching to something new since LS is so slow and Dualies get mind numbing to spam, i think this is it. Thanks
Also do you know how many frames of hyper armor the GS tackle gives?
5:26 just to state what i understood: a claw uppercut will either tenderize if already hit once or add to the tenderize count? Basically this is a shorter animation than actually zipping across with the hook? In this scenario, you save downtime by skipping the tenderize animation then? I was wondering why you had to run.
A claw uppercut does the same tenderize damage as the light weapons' clutch claw attacks, i.e. you can tenderize a part with two claw uppercuts, or a claw uppercut followed by the SnS's clutch claw attack, etc.. Technically, it's faster to reset the clagger animation by firing the clutch claw itself, but it's more optimal to claw uppercut to also deal tenderize damage in the process.
Also, it's not required to sheath and run, but running makes it easier to reposition yourself to get a better angle to claw uppercut, so you don't latch on to an incorrect body part. If you try to reposition yourself but don't run, you are at risk of not landing the claw uppercut in time before the monster recovers from clagger.
Im suprised by the way he go straight to the point.
the best video guide ive seen for mhw holy sh
I didnt even know i could backstep out of guard and this is like my third or fourth most used weapon :/
There is one more skill I still can’t figure how to, speedrunners shoot the slinger ammo from the shield 👀 do you know how?
Always wonder how people roll while weapon sheath but still able to do the claw. So it's actually guard+roll. Damn the "guard" can be so useful now. I feel so dumb to barely use it. 😂
Also I agree that that move "guard slash" is so dump. What's dumb about it is that you can't even do any follow moves after that guard slash.
Another very important piece of advice (I uploaded footage in my channel though it’s a very short video) is that you can get essentially infinite mount attacks with sword and shield if timed right. Guaranteed tremendous damage on mount. And a KO if you master the timing enough.
In the video I say my record is 8, but since then my record has gone up to 14 attacks on mount.
Triple Strike will be a topic for one of my future videos!
Once, recently, i hit the backstep as Velkhana tried to stab me, and hit the forward leap right as he hit the 2nd stab right where i had been a frame before. Didnt get the clip though😢
It should also be noted that the guard -> use item is great for running a support build
Not necessarily. You cannot run while using an item in this manner, making it more dangerous. Since the sword & shield's sheathing time is so short, it's usually better to just sheathe first.
It's more for stopping mid combo to save an ally, rather than running away to save yourself. Usually with this kind of build, you have max speed eating anyways
My boi thanks a lot, I saw these techniques on a speedrun video and couldn't figure out what exactly was happening as I barely touched sns... Know everything fits perfectly.
And by the way, any hint for the perfect rush? Sometimes I miss the timing and dunno exactly what to do
I just practiced perfect rush in the training area until I got the timings down in my muscle memory.
@@SKY85sr all right I'm going to try, thanks for replying =)
Me too, I'd seen speedrunners doing claw uppercuts and perfect rushes while sheathed and couldn't figure it out. There were no videos like this back then, at least none that I could find.
I watched a video last night that did an excellent job describing how to use Perfect rush:
ua-cam.com/video/A8gXxQ7e7EE/v-deo.html
There's an audio cue for it if you pay attention in the training area. Sounds like a wind rush of sorts. Character will also slightly glow red. If you're on controller(and your controller supports it), it'll also vibrate with the correct timing to hit the button.
Can you do a video on how to press the triangle button on the PlayStation contoller? Been struggling with that for a while.
Try asking on ask . com
Do you have a Rise advanced techniques video?
Or I guess a Sunbreak one
See "MHRise - Sword & Shield ADVANCED Tutorial" and "MHRise Sunbreak - Sword & Shield Backstep Definitive Guide"
@@SKY85sr thanka
music used in the begiining?
What is that meter next to the sharpness bar?
if I'm not mistaken, that's Velkhana's frostcraft
How’s backstep compared to rise? Just curious
Backstep in Rise has 40 s at 60 fps, but is not affected by evade window or evade extender, and cannot trigger evasion-based armor skills like adrenaline rush.
Hmm, so with evade window it gets to be about the same then? Honestly pretty cool but definitely annoying for early game
Can you do a video on world builds
A world build will be nice
If I feel like the video warrants a build, then yeah.
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What weapon is this ?
Sword and Shield
I know I mean the skin@@Celis.C
@@Duriel92 The one at the start vs Alatreon looks like Corona+ (at least the skin). The one in the Training Area appears to be the True Fatalis Sword.
Corona was the one ty.@@Celis.C
lul never known that perfect rush exist xD
It only exists if you own the Iceborne expansion.
Definitely clunkier on MKB
The instant guard>roll wonders me. I didnt figure this one out from my ~350 games of SnS in Iceborne...