Those mobile volumetric concrete batch plants are a game changer. The first time I used one there wasn't a single wasted drop of concrete. Plus you get the full working life of the mix - extra half hour makes a huge difference in the heat.
We had one of those lorries to lay the base layer for the long load parking bay at work. The concrete was coming out so quick we could not keep up with it. We had to slow him down. I could easy recommend this type of as you need it and on the spot concrete service. Have a great day Tom....
In my area West Coast of Florida, for residential pours it's quite common to have on-site mixing. However for large pours needing multiple trucks it comes ready-mix.
In a concrete mixer truck, the concrete should be mixed for a good 10 minutes. It would be good to get it crush tested to see if it comes up to strength. I was a mixer driver for 20 years in Australia.
The other thing about site mixing is that you have a longer lead time before the catalyst kicks in. I've had a few trucks that either had a long drive, or got stuck in traffic, that the concrete is so "hot" that there's almost no working time & it get hard too quickly!! Thanx !
many years ago i made a concrete cover for a cesspit. At the time my wife and I were newlyweds, so I wrote her name in pebbles on the cover. Lets say, I was not flavour of the month.😃
We are mixing concrete using a barrel mixer,for a 35nt mix For 1 cube 320kg cem 52n orign 1070kg sand.fine and coarse mix 860kg 15mm stone 1L per cube Sika WRA 1L per cube concrete Plasticser 140L water 160L water with no additives
Me and the father in law work 2 electric mixers. Cement bags on a pallet, sand and gravel mix from quarry in a trailer. 1 man works the 2 mixers, 1 barrows and if we can get more help, 1 or 2 can do the levelling. Can do a surprising area in day
I always had this idea of making a concrete pit ramped down the same width as a loader bucket and as deep then mixing the concrete on mass with the telescopic bucket itself and just pouring it where you want afterwards, never got around to making the pit but it’s still in the back of my mind 😊
One of the houses I deliver parcels to has one of them fancy printed/coloured concrete drives. Right along the side of the porch and across the garage door is a load of cat footprints! lol
That cat 😂😂😂. I am getting a 40x48 foot pad poured for a shop and it will be around 11k us dollars. Concrete is so $. Use to be the poor man's building material not anymore. That truck is the cats whiskers! Super slick!! Haven't seen anything like that around here!
Big Ups TL! FURZE lucky to know you! You a certain asset. Love when u appear in his work! I’d venture to say that Mrs Lamb would even win the Hottest Wife contest too 😂 👏🏼
Ooh, a baler! I've spent many, many hours laying under a Hesston. Can you come up with a portable inspection pit for use in the field when you drop a string and have to rethread? Keeping one in the toolbox with the penknife, screwdriver, 10" Bahco adjustable and bit of emery paper would be very useful.
I mix a lot of concrete in a tractor mixer, pan mixer. with a 2m chute so that you reach 4m from the tractor's rear tire. we buy cement in big sacks 300kg/pc. a water tank with a timer-controlled pump, which is started remotely from the loader. on the loader I have a bucket that is big enough to take 2 full buckets for a mixture. I do 6-8m3 per hour 👍
I use a tegale dockeys year old tractoer mixer just happy I have that used to have a tub mixer somone else liked the tub mixer more then me helped themselves to it. I now just take my time doing bit as and when. I like doing stuff at my own speed then I know it's done right. I just use 65 shovels of what we call asrised in this area 🤷🏻♂️, as it's cheaper buying that then sand and gravel that's been washed I think the professionals call it ballast I can pick up 8 ton with the tractor and trailer 5 miles up the road and 2 members of my family work at the place so get a bit of a discount. But obusialy can't guarantee the amount of sand to gravel but never seemed to be a problem. Then I add 5 bags of cement not sure if that's to much or not enough but it's the same mix my grandfather used and none of that cracked that's been down since the second world war. Then we nomily do 6-8" depending on the amount of traffic will have over the concrete. with 4mm rebar and I've started adding fibreglass I can't really comment on if that's worth it or not as I don't no. We do a wet mix so the concrete sort of looks after it's self. I borrow my mates petrol tamping thing I have to say that's a very good bit of kit. I am not expert on concreting but I been doing like this since I was a youngster with my father and grandfather all seems ok🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
We do smaller jobs like this ourselves (because where we farm is too far from anywhere to easily get concrete delivered), but the BIG jobs we contract out to a mob who bring in a much larger version of that truck (some assembly required on site). Plus there has to be enough room for them to bring all the raw materials out and dump them. And space to drive around to load materials into the mixer. Last big job was the main workshop floor. No way I was mixing 400+ cubic metres 2 cubic metres at a time🥴! Mixer plant and a concrete pump and some hired minions make for a much easier job (and a lot more strain on the wallet 🤯).
Great video Tom. Just to let you know CEMI is good for early setting but CEMII will continue to gain even more strength after 28days making it more durable. CEMII also contains significantly less carbon.
I would invest in a bull float Tom it will flatten it much better when the concrete is still wet. They didn’t really tamp it to get all of the pits out first. Scrapping only just leaves it full of holes.
The guy who did our imprint concrete yard reconed the spot mix type trucks didn't get as good a mix as its only mixing in that short auger. However he did order half a cube too much from the normal wagon ! It's very handy to be able to vary the mix as you go though, when we poured our stable slab it was computer controlled and he just tapped the button when i wanted a slightly wetter mix. What do you think, is it "less well mixed" on these spotmix wagons??
We built our extension 12 years ago used volumetric for the footings. Driver was great looking in the trench yep you need 6.5 cube. He was bang on. Was it Ketton cement by any chance Mr Tom
Very interesting and well filmed. So do you get ~10m3 out of a load? Expect you could refill the lorry during the pour to keep things moving along, but it'll get more work to level etc and you'll need a lot more areas prepared, rolled and formed up. If you were to use fibres where would you add these, please? Whenever I've made concrete it's been by adding cement to '20 to naught' aggregate rather than mixing gravel and sand so you're well ahead of me on all accounts. Never knew about SEM 1 v 2. Thanks for making and sharing. (subbed).
I was told a few years back the volumetric were classed as plant equipment so could be driven on a car licence! No tacho and up to 50 tonne on a rigid or something as well
Sounds suss to me. That is definitely classed as a Heavy Rigid Vehicle here in Australia as it has more than two axles, Light Rigid or Medium Rigid. Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
Some areas they have small ones. A mate got one in to concrete the floor for his new shed. Carried enough to mix up to 5 cubic metres, in 0.1 cubic metre increments. Fixed fee + the amount of concrete used.
Looks like the concrete had gone off plenty by the time you came along to pan it ,Just had a price for C45 to do our yard about 150m cube with 360 kg cement per meter at £129.50,Should have done it 5 years ago would have cost a lot less money and we would have had good use of it ,Never seen a farm with to many sheds or to much concrete
Hello Tom, we use a lot of concrete with our groundwork’s company, when we’re doing larger jobs we generally use cemex, but we have our own 6m3 drum mixer lorry for smaller jobs as the big boys aren’t interested in small jobs, and we do a lot of sewage treatment plants ware we need dry mix ready on site as soon as we have the hole dug, so convenience is important. Out of interest ware are you buying you CEM 1 cement from? We had been buying it from dragon cement in south Gloucestershire, but are going to try a import company from Middlesbrough called TeeCAM ltd, it’s imported from Turkey in 1.5 ton bulk bags James
Hope there were no lupin seed left in the truck tray that carried your sand and gravel , not like my friends concrete floor which now has lupins growing in it !
We have used a PTO mixer in the past, but if its a job of any size we normally buy any concrete we need Tom. There is a mixing plant about 10min away fortunately. Out of curiosity, what does a metre of concrete cost across the pond? ~ Colin
Great stuff thanks! In Montreal some of the old buildings have cat prints in the bricks, because the cats would get into the brickyards where things were not yet dry. It's kind of fun looking for them as you walk about. I bet there must be similar bricks in the UK haha. Did this approach actually save you a significant percent on the cost?
As a groundworker who works with concrete daily, these are a last resort if a plant breaks down or something. For small pours, fair enough they are great BUT for house floors or bigger they are a waste of time. I would doing a foundation a few months back and had 5 jägers unload in the time it took him to mix and empty everything.
You could save money on diesel too by getting your own oil rig, bulk tanker, and oil refinery.
Fantastic solution. If only we all had buddies with Volumetric Concrete Mixers...
The Cat hahaha wants its print too Tom lol
More fool you for not locking the cat away after the first lot of footprints.
Thanks for digging Colin's Hole!!!
Any time!
😂😂.
Between you and Colin's videos, I bet this man will stay busy for a while. Good on you gents for helping him out!
Those mobile volumetric concrete batch plants are a game changer. The first time I used one there wasn't a single wasted drop of concrete. Plus you get the full working life of the mix - extra half hour makes a huge difference in the heat.
Every UA-camr needs a mascot, for Tom its a cat. A new star has been born. 🐈 ❤
ABC Concrete, as seen on the Colin Furze underground garage video!!👍👍
Thats a secret, don't tell everyone 🤣
Question, was this before or after the secret pouring of concrete in the hole?
Thanks as always for including us Tom!
Nce job from America
Thanks
Always find cat prints in concrete even if you don’t have a cat 😂😂.
We had one of those lorries to lay the base layer for the long load parking bay at work. The concrete was coming out so quick we could not keep up with it. We had to slow him down. I could easy recommend this type of as you need it and on the spot concrete service. Have a great day Tom....
Your videos are really interesting and filled with experience.
Found you through furze but really enjoy what you do.
Well done Tom . Very smart . You have a great future x
In my area West Coast of Florida, for residential pours it's quite common to have on-site mixing.
However for large pours needing multiple trucks it comes ready-mix.
In a concrete mixer truck, the concrete should be mixed for a good 10 minutes. It would be good to get it crush tested to see if it comes up to strength. I was a mixer driver for 20 years in Australia.
Used one of these set ups by a company on the Fylde coast. Superb!! Efficient, no fuss, no mess cost effective!
Tom Lamb absolute legend!!!
My cat's called Emily (among other names), and that's the sort of shit she'd pull... Great vid, thanks Tom!
The other thing about site mixing is that you have a longer lead time before the catalyst kicks in. I've had a few trucks that either had a long drive, or got stuck in traffic, that the concrete is so "hot" that there's almost no working time & it get hard too quickly!! Thanx !
many years ago i made a concrete cover for a cesspit. At the time my wife and I were newlyweds, so I wrote her name in pebbles on the cover. Lets say, I was not flavour of the month.😃
We are mixing concrete using a barrel mixer,for a 35nt mix
For 1 cube
320kg cem 52n orign
1070kg sand.fine and coarse mix
860kg 15mm stone
1L per cube Sika WRA
1L per cube concrete Plasticser
140L water
160L water with no additives
Nice Job 👍
Me and the father in law work 2 electric mixers. Cement bags on a pallet, sand and gravel mix from quarry in a trailer. 1 man works the 2 mixers, 1 barrows and if we can get more help, 1 or 2 can do the levelling. Can do a surprising area in day
Wait for the smaller trailer mounted units. A small stand on bucket lift and one guy will easily do the job of four people.
Wait for the smaller trailer mounted units. A small stand on bucket lift and one guy will easily do the job of four people.
Looks very nice Tom.
thats the best idea ive seen, thought it was ideal at Colin tunnel,
next I guess is a artic and stepframe setup, with a dumper, good luck,
Nice job Tom!
Every pour we've done has had either the cat or bloody pigeons walk through it! Adds to the character....
Tnx for diging on colins profect,you are officialy awsome !!
I always had this idea of making a concrete pit ramped down the same width as a loader bucket and as deep then mixing the concrete on mass with the telescopic bucket itself and just pouring it where you want afterwards, never got around to making the pit but it’s still in the back of my mind 😊
Great job Tom. I think you need to lock the cat up every time you are concreting. 😂
Dunno. It seems to make better foor prints in the mud than he does. 😗
I forgot about it
@@stco2426 😂
Cat had me cracking up 😂
Those are some good mates
I'm about to do a house. This looks to be a good alternative to minimix where you could be left with part loads.
One of the houses I deliver parcels to has one of them fancy printed/coloured concrete drives. Right along the side of the porch and across the garage door is a load of cat footprints! lol
Clever stuff.
Wow thats cool AF! What a great way to cut out waste cement.
You just knew the cat had to be in on the act... 😂😂
I never see it until the concrete comes
Well done mate!!🍺💪💪👍
Thanks 👍
That cat 😂😂😂. I am getting a 40x48 foot pad poured for a shop and it will be around 11k us dollars. Concrete is so $. Use to be the poor man's building material not anymore. That truck is the cats whiskers! Super slick!! Haven't seen anything like that around here!
Big Ups TL! FURZE lucky to know you! You a certain asset. Love when u appear in his work! I’d venture to say that Mrs Lamb would even win the Hottest Wife contest too 😂 👏🏼
Big up
Ooh, a baler! I've spent many, many hours laying under a Hesston. Can you come up with a portable inspection pit for use in the field when you drop a string and have to rethread? Keeping one in the toolbox with the penknife, screwdriver, 10" Bahco adjustable and bit of emery paper would be very useful.
Re tieing strings is the worst in a field of hard stubble
@b980 its at least 30 or more years since i baled rape straw. still have the gouges out of me back .
I mix a lot of concrete in a tractor mixer, pan mixer. with a 2m chute so that you reach 4m from the tractor's rear tire. we buy cement in big sacks 300kg/pc. a water tank with a timer-controlled pump, which is started remotely from the loader. on the loader I have a bucket that is big enough to take 2 full buckets for a mixture. I do 6-8m3 per hour 👍
Handy to know
Top job bud 👍🏻
I use a tegale dockeys year old tractoer mixer just happy I have that used to have a tub mixer somone else liked the tub mixer more then me helped themselves to it.
I now just take my time doing bit as and when. I like doing stuff at my own speed then I know it's done right.
I just use 65 shovels of what we call asrised in this area 🤷🏻♂️, as it's cheaper buying that then sand and gravel that's been washed I think the professionals call it ballast I can pick up 8 ton with the tractor and trailer 5 miles up the road and 2 members of my family work at the place so get a bit of a discount. But obusialy can't guarantee the amount of sand to gravel but never seemed to be a problem.
Then I add 5 bags of cement not sure if that's to much or not enough but it's the same mix my grandfather used and none of that cracked that's been down since the second world war.
Then we nomily do 6-8" depending on the amount of traffic will have over the concrete. with 4mm rebar and I've started adding fibreglass I can't really comment on if that's worth it or not as I don't no.
We do a wet mix so the concrete sort of looks after it's self.
I borrow my mates petrol tamping thing I have to say that's a very good bit of kit.
I am not expert on concreting but I been doing like this since I was a youngster with my father and grandfather all seems ok🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
We do smaller jobs like this ourselves (because where we farm is too far from anywhere to easily get concrete delivered), but the BIG jobs we contract out to a mob who bring in a much larger version of that truck (some assembly required on site). Plus there has to be enough room for them to bring all the raw materials out and dump them. And space to drive around to load materials into the mixer.
Last big job was the main workshop floor. No way I was mixing 400+ cubic metres 2 cubic metres at a time🥴! Mixer plant and a concrete pump and some hired minions make for a much easier job (and a lot more strain on the wallet 🤯).
I’m glad it’s not just our cat that does that 🙈😂xx
It’s been a nightmare
Cracking video Tom
I thought you might do a Olly and have a feed mixer Tom 🤦♂️👏👏👍👍
Next time!
Used this company on my house build very good 👍
Nice concrete Tom! Bloody cat!
Great video Tom.
Just to let you know CEMI is good for early setting but CEMII will continue to gain even more strength after 28days making it more durable.
CEMII also contains significantly less carbon.
Thanks
Great contraption. I wish we had those here in the States. I buy quick create here, but I only use small amounts.
Maybe one day!
good job!
Good effort Tom, concreting in volume not easy, especially if you are looking for a power float finish, always fighting time & weather 👍
Getting Trolled by the cat. Priceless.
I would invest in a bull float Tom it will flatten it much better when the concrete is still wet. They didn’t really tamp it to get all of the pits out first. Scrapping only just leaves it full of holes.
I’ve got one but we were just being lazy
Tom Lamb. He's a Farmer.... and cat strangler. 🙂. Looks Great! Thumbs up to ABC Concrete! (but I'm in The States).
Use both volumetric and barrel mixers depending on the size of the job. Where are you getting the cement from in bulk?
The guy who did our imprint concrete yard reconed the spot mix type trucks didn't get as good a mix as its only mixing in that short auger. However he did order half a cube too much from the normal wagon !
It's very handy to be able to vary the mix as you go though, when we poured our stable slab it was computer controlled and he just tapped the button when i wanted a slightly wetter mix.
What do you think, is it "less well mixed" on these spotmix wagons??
I’d say possibly not a well mixed but it still does the same job if they were no good nobody would use them
For a lamb you are very competent. When you become a full blown sheep god help us
The cat is the star. Made me LOL
Tom the cat was just following your lead by leaving her paw prints!
We built our extension 12 years ago used volumetric for the footings. Driver was great looking in the trench yep you need 6.5 cube. He was bang on.
Was it Ketton cement by any chance Mr Tom
A cat brings a man down to his knees😂
Waiting on the bird prints next 😂😂
Definitely food for thought. This is the only comment I can make Tom without laughing about the Cat. They ALWAYS want to do it.
I know
Looks very good. Quality and speed. Can you provide your cost breakdown ?
I’ve got to work it out
Would be very handy to have a volumetric in the fleet could make decent money with the price of concrete at the moment
That truck is quite the machine, not like hat here in Eastern Canada 🇨🇦 .
What do you use
@@Tomlamb980 Eastern Canada mainly three axle pre mix drum style dispensing trucks. 8-10 +cu. yard loads
Very interesting and well filmed. So do you get ~10m3 out of a load? Expect you could refill the lorry during the pour to keep things moving along, but it'll get more work to level etc and you'll need a lot more areas prepared, rolled and formed up.
If you were to use fibres where would you add these, please?
Whenever I've made concrete it's been by adding cement to '20 to naught' aggregate rather than mixing gravel and sand so you're well ahead of me on all accounts. Never knew about SEM 1 v 2. Thanks for making and sharing.
(subbed).
I’d like to use fibres as usually do but didn’t have any on this occasion
I guess it shouldn't really matter where you'd put the fibers. All that would decide that would be the ratios of aggregates you're using.
Great video. Laughing so hard at the cat
We have an old volumetric mixer on an old drag trailer chassis & pto driven off a fastrac.
Very interesting video. How much did the materials cost per cube?
The shoeprint is a great idea, lol :D
As handy as they are, The crete isn't stirred up long enough for a decent mix
@@TrumpDotCom I’ve worked that out
@@Tomlamb980 ???
I was told a few years back the volumetric were classed as plant equipment so could be driven on a car licence! No tacho and up to 50 tonne on a rigid or something as well
First I’ve heard of it
Sounds suss to me. That is definitely classed as a Heavy Rigid Vehicle here in Australia as it has more than two axles, Light Rigid or Medium Rigid.
Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
Meow😮 never seen such a mixer b4, I like it, wonder if they make a smaller version hmm
Some areas they have small ones. A mate got one in to concrete the floor for his new shed. Carried enough to mix up to 5 cubic metres, in 0.1 cubic metre increments. Fixed fee + the amount of concrete used.
Looks like the concrete had gone off plenty by the time you came along to pan it ,Just had a price for C45 to do our yard about 150m cube with 360 kg cement per meter at £129.50,Should have done it 5 years ago would have cost a lot less money and we would have had good use of it ,Never seen a farm with to many sheds or to much concrete
Yer it’s coming down in price it was 155
That's a good price.
That Humpty Dumpty gig must not be paying as much these days.
Hello Tom, we use a lot of concrete with our groundwork’s company, when we’re doing larger jobs we generally use cemex, but we have our own 6m3 drum mixer lorry for smaller jobs as the big boys aren’t interested in small jobs, and we do a lot of sewage treatment plants ware we need dry mix ready on site as soon as we have the hole dug, so convenience is important.
Out of interest ware are you buying you CEM 1 cement from? We had been buying it from dragon cement in south Gloucestershire, but are going to try a import company from Middlesbrough called TeeCAM ltd, it’s imported from Turkey in 1.5 ton bulk bags
James
For this small project I just got it out the guys silo he gets it from Hanson so might look at an old silo to blow it into
NIIIIIIIIIIICE
Gangsta cat!
Can you do a cost vs buying
Yer we use pan mixer om the farm there a vid of us useing it on my channel we got cat prints on 3 bits of concrete we done aswell
Love this video!! Curious on the cost per cubic meter. Here in the states (Midwest) it costs around $130 USD per yard.
Usually it’s about £150 per cube
A cubic metre is 1.308 cubic yards, so £150 per cubic metre is about £115 per cubic yard.
Hope there were no lupin seed left in the truck tray that carried your sand and gravel , not like my friends concrete floor which now has lupins growing in it !
We have used a PTO mixer in the past, but if its a job of any size we normally buy any concrete we need Tom. There is a mixing plant about 10min away fortunately. Out of curiosity, what does a metre of concrete cost across the pond? ~ Colin
£150 per cube at the moment.
Buy yourself a bull float to use just after pouring. will make floating a lot easier
Great stuff thanks! In Montreal some of the old buildings have cat prints in the bricks, because the cats would get into the brickyards where things were not yet dry. It's kind of fun looking for them as you walk about. I bet there must be similar bricks in the UK haha. Did this approach actually save you a significant percent on the cost?
Im going to work it out but actually half
Ive seen before people having mixer buckets on a loader for doing concrete, if you had weighing on the boom surely that wouldn't be a daft suggestion?
LOL, the cat. ♥
What about an old keenan feeder wagon
Don't blame you tom save money where you can
Is that Chris Bibby???
For a moment you thought about winging the screwdriver, would of made a worst mess. haha
Great video Tom, how much better value per cube is it vs buying from the local concrete supplier?
I’d say half price
Do you know what you're doing? not on a Saturday, proper British reply.
Very interesting Tom, great job, hopefully 👍 👏 🙏
As a groundworker who works with concrete daily, these are a last resort if a plant breaks down or something. For small pours, fair enough they are great BUT for house floors or bigger they are a waste of time. I would doing a foundation a few months back and had 5 jägers unload in the time it took him to mix and empty everything.
👍👍👍.