I'm replaying the Bravely games, and these were so helpful especially as I'm entering the, uh, end-ish game. I always looked forward to the fashion tier lists, as well. Thanks so much.
Absolutely loved this series. As a dweeb that'll think of Jobs from the series when I can't fall asleep, this was a nice perspective on something not many other people I know think of. If you are to continue this series into Bravely Second (which you absolutely should do, favorite game in the series because of the job line-up), the only thing I can think of to improve the series would be show the Job's stats and weapon proficiencies in the video. As the letter rankings in-game are often vague or just wrong, OniBlackMage's video on Bravely Default classes has the percentages displayed correctly. When you talk about the Arcanist's abysmal fragility, I know their vitality is a whopping -50%, but some viewers that haven't played the games religiously might not. So I think that'd be a nice improvement. TED Talk Over, Love the Series
Frankly i was pleased that these invocations got moved to summoner in second, better drip and some of the greatest ready access damage of any type you wanted. Mix it with spellcraft and good measure and you could hit insane numbers (my personal record was a susano susano rain under sp for 120k or so)
Man this was a wild ride. It still baffles me to see such high quality bravely default content in 2023/24. Congratulations Jaders, you made something truly special! Conjurer is most likely the worst job in the game. Its skillset is way too expensive for what it does, which can be easily achieved in much cheaper ways can be accessed way earlier. For 90 mp, the buff should be at least 100% increase, and even then I'd argue 150% would be a better offer. Support abilities (obliterate aside) range from decently useful to just why. Really, the most useful Conjurer gets is making easier to reach Lv 14 on all jobs. It's really a shame because I like the concept of a job based around being a supporting subjob, because it fits great with both being the last job you get and Yulyana's character and role in story and lore. Speaking of, that adds to the disappointment imo, because this is Yulyana's job, the CEO of asterisks, and it kinda sucks. At least it's cool that it deals with summons and Yulyana was Meohilias' mentor. Anyhow, I'm looking forward to see what you do next. I saw a comment that you're not covering second soon, and that's ok. I'm curious though, will the next series you have in my mind also centered on an RPG? Keep up the good work, and take care.
Man the last one, conjurer really confuses me since it’s so late yet it’s gimmick is so comically simple and feels like it makes summons have purpose, anyways these guides were amazing and in-depth there were so many actions I haven’t seen before and the drip tier list was very good love that one of the basic drip the vampire is like the most stylish possible
Ah yes the grinding master Honestly this job does feel like it could do with a bit more meat besides that. It really does feel to reliant on sub jobs to accomplish anything which while that makes sense for the final job it really could do with at least a little bit of party support to make even the main abillity feel useful on its own.
I really enjoy using Conjurer as a magic attacker, alongside a Rejuvination BP Battery which can restore MP (e.g. Freelancer/Performer with staves) Having a Salve-Maker inflict a Dark weakness on the enemy means I can both use a Dark Knight and an Arcanist/Conjurer to use strong dark attacks (Rage and Interment) on the enemy Boosting both M.atk and Critical makes it very easy to hit the damage cap under low leverage Just make sure to also equip Magical Critical and Pierce Magic Def If the enemy has really high physical defense I prefer a fire type damage team. Get the salve-maker to apply fire weakness on the foe. Then instead of a Dark Knight, my physical attacker can be a Vampire/Conjurer, which can boost it's own p.atk and crit rate, and spam Fireball (which ignores p.def - hitting 9999 damage under low leverage Alterantively you can still go the magic route with a Conjurer main job, with either Vampire or Black Mage sub job to use their strongest elemental spells. Conjurer/Time Mage is good if you just want to use Meteor instead of worrying about elemental weaknesses
Ah man, it sucks to see this game finished, but on the other hand, it's always nice when a project finishes, right? I do hope you eventually go over the Bravely Second jobs eventually, as that is by far my favorite game in the series, but for now I'll just have to tide myself over by rewatching the whole playlist now that it's done~
Yes, it is nice to finally put this project behind me and work on others. In terms of making videos over Bravely Second, that will happen at some point down the road, but when....I don't know yet. There are a lot of changes I want to make to these videos, and I want to get that all figured out before I tackle BS.
Understood! I definitely noticed some format changes between the start and the end of this series that I imagine you'd probably like to have made a bit more consistent if giving it a second pass. For what it's worth, I think this series is a slam dunk, there's really not enough people talking about the Bravely Series as a whole, and certainly not anyone else willing to go as in depth as you have, so I appreciate the hell out of this series~ Can't wait to see what's next in the pipeline whenever you decide you're ready!
On my 6th play though of bravely default and the addition of the fashion tier list is a welcome sight. Vampire is indeed the best looking class, though spiritmaster is a close second for me. Quick question, how are you recording your 3ds?
These videos are really helpful I played a lot of bravely default and second but every time I watch your videos I learn something new about jods I never use.I like to try some of the job I haven’t use before keep up the good work.I have one more question have you ever played golden sun?
First, thank you very much for the kind words as always! Second, yes, I have indeed played Golden Sun, however I have never finished it. I got a copy from a friend many years ago, and the game stopped working when I was about halfway through the game. I'll probably get around to trying it again at some point!
Imagine looping the game for the 3rd time and finishing this sidequest and your reward is what I would consider the absolute worst Job in the game. Also imagine unlocking exp up skill from this job when you most likely already hit the lvl 99 cap, as if the devs want to mess with us. Anyway, nice work making an overview on every Job! Is there a plan to make a tier list based on how good you think the jobs are?
At the moment, I don't have any plans to make a tier list ranking the viability of the jobs. I definitely considered it at some point, but I think that'll have to be something I revisit when I eventually get around to tackling Bravely Second.
As cool as Conjurer is, it's a job I could never really recommend, purely due to there honestly being no real need for it. The ability to instantly max out a stat in a single move is amazing, as are the near perfect universal weapon proficiency and stats, but the selfish nature of the job kills it. Ya, you can set up massive overkills with Bravely Second, but you wouldn't have to do that if you built a solid team rather than a funny gimmick Conjurer build. But what really hurts it is that a single support job from the mid game (Performer) basically invalidates it's whole gimmick by instead buffing the whole party to the max with a single extra action. Made even worse since you can use something like Pirate/Salve-Maker as a secondary on your performer (or vice-versa) to debuff the enemy as well and let each of your other 3 party members out damage a Conjurer. Literally all Conjurer needed to be a good job would be a single spell/attack to definite itself and make it something other than a generalist stat booster. Freelancer has Examine, Prayer, and Mimic. Spell Fencer is for the most part the only consistent way to deal elemental physical damage. Red Mage allows you to consolidate the two primary magic jobs and has multiple forms of BP regen. Salve Maker does literally everything near-flawlessly while still having unique abilities like applying elemental weaknesses. Even Vampire sports innate heals and debuffs in addition to being a generalist. Conjurer is just a selfish Performer who literally cannot do anything noteworthy without relying on it's other job.
I'm replaying the Bravely games, and these were so helpful especially as I'm entering the, uh, end-ish game.
I always looked forward to the fashion tier lists, as well. Thanks so much.
Absolutely loved this series. As a dweeb that'll think of Jobs from the series when I can't fall asleep, this was a nice perspective on something not many other people I know think of.
If you are to continue this series into Bravely Second (which you absolutely should do, favorite game in the series because of the job line-up), the only thing I can think of to improve the series would be show the Job's stats and weapon proficiencies in the video.
As the letter rankings in-game are often vague or just wrong, OniBlackMage's video on Bravely Default classes has the percentages displayed correctly.
When you talk about the Arcanist's abysmal fragility, I know their vitality is a whopping -50%, but some viewers that haven't played the games religiously might not. So I think that'd be a nice improvement.
TED Talk Over, Love the Series
I'll be sure to keep that in mind! Thank you for the input.
Frankly i was pleased that these invocations got moved to summoner in second, better drip and some of the greatest ready access damage of any type you wanted. Mix it with spellcraft and good measure and you could hit insane numbers (my personal record was a susano susano rain under sp for 120k or so)
Man, I can't believe this is over already! It was an absolute joy to watch, and I'm looking forward to any future content
Man this was a wild ride. It still baffles me to see such high quality bravely default content in 2023/24. Congratulations Jaders, you made something truly special!
Conjurer is most likely the worst job in the game. Its skillset is way too expensive for what it does, which can be easily achieved in much cheaper ways can be accessed way earlier. For 90 mp, the buff should be at least 100% increase, and even then I'd argue 150% would be a better offer. Support abilities (obliterate aside) range from decently useful to just why. Really, the most useful Conjurer gets is making easier to reach Lv 14 on all jobs. It's really a shame because I like the concept of a job based around being a supporting subjob, because it fits great with both being the last job you get and Yulyana's character and role in story and lore. Speaking of, that adds to the disappointment imo, because this is Yulyana's job, the CEO of asterisks, and it kinda sucks. At least it's cool that it deals with summons and Yulyana was Meohilias' mentor.
Anyhow, I'm looking forward to see what you do next. I saw a comment that you're not covering second soon, and that's ok. I'm curious though, will the next series you have in my mind also centered on an RPG? Keep up the good work, and take care.
Man the last one, conjurer really confuses me since it’s so late yet it’s gimmick is so comically simple and feels like it makes summons have purpose, anyways these guides were amazing and in-depth there were so many actions I haven’t seen before and the drip tier list was very good love that one of the basic drip the vampire is like the most stylish possible
The Vampire captures one of my favorite aesthetics: Simple, yet stylish!
Hell yeah to the Baten Kaitos theme!!! Its such an underrated game... Also thanks for the video. I finished BD2 and playing BD1 for the first time
Ah yes the grinding master
Honestly this job does feel like it could do with a bit more meat besides that. It really does feel to reliant on sub jobs to accomplish anything which while that makes sense for the final job it really could do with at least a little bit of party support to make even the main abillity feel useful on its own.
Agree 100%!
Weirdly satisfying seeing the final one!
I really enjoy using Conjurer as a magic attacker, alongside a Rejuvination BP Battery which can restore MP (e.g. Freelancer/Performer with staves)
Having a Salve-Maker inflict a Dark weakness on the enemy means I can both use a Dark Knight and an Arcanist/Conjurer to use strong dark attacks (Rage and Interment) on the enemy
Boosting both M.atk and Critical makes it very easy to hit the damage cap under low leverage
Just make sure to also equip Magical Critical and Pierce Magic Def
If the enemy has really high physical defense I prefer a fire type damage team. Get the salve-maker to apply fire weakness on the foe.
Then instead of a Dark Knight, my physical attacker can be a Vampire/Conjurer, which can boost it's own p.atk and crit rate, and spam Fireball (which ignores p.def - hitting 9999 damage under low leverage
Alterantively you can still go the magic route with a Conjurer main job, with either Vampire or Black Mage sub job to use their strongest elemental spells.
Conjurer/Time Mage is good if you just want to use Meteor instead of worrying about elemental weaknesses
Ah man, it sucks to see this game finished, but on the other hand, it's always nice when a project finishes, right? I do hope you eventually go over the Bravely Second jobs eventually, as that is by far my favorite game in the series, but for now I'll just have to tide myself over by rewatching the whole playlist now that it's done~
Yes, it is nice to finally put this project behind me and work on others. In terms of making videos over Bravely Second, that will happen at some point down the road, but when....I don't know yet. There are a lot of changes I want to make to these videos, and I want to get that all figured out before I tackle BS.
Understood! I definitely noticed some format changes between the start and the end of this series that I imagine you'd probably like to have made a bit more consistent if giving it a second pass. For what it's worth, I think this series is a slam dunk, there's really not enough people talking about the Bravely Series as a whole, and certainly not anyone else willing to go as in depth as you have, so I appreciate the hell out of this series~ Can't wait to see what's next in the pipeline whenever you decide you're ready!
the boy ninjas being B tier while pirate and black mage are A is wild af
On my 6th play though of bravely default and the addition of the fashion tier list is a welcome sight. Vampire is indeed the best looking class, though spiritmaster is a close second for me. Quick question, how are you recording your 3ds?
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These videos are really helpful I played a lot of bravely default and second but every time I watch your videos I learn something new about jods I never use.I like to try some of the job I haven’t use before keep up the good work.I have one more question have you ever played golden sun?
First, thank you very much for the kind words as always! Second, yes, I have indeed played Golden Sun, however I have never finished it. I got a copy from a friend many years ago, and the game stopped working when I was about halfway through the game. I'll probably get around to trying it again at some point!
Are you going to do a job list for the sequels? I'd enjoy that as much as I enjoyed this list.
Are you intending to the same with the new jobs from Bravely Second? 😮
Imagine looping the game for the 3rd time and finishing this sidequest and your reward is what I would consider the absolute worst Job in the game.
Also imagine unlocking exp up skill from this job when you most likely already hit the lvl 99 cap, as if the devs want to mess with us.
Anyway, nice work making an overview on every Job!
Is there a plan to make a tier list based on how good you think the jobs are?
At the moment, I don't have any plans to make a tier list ranking the viability of the jobs. I definitely considered it at some point, but I think that'll have to be something I revisit when I eventually get around to tackling Bravely Second.
As cool as Conjurer is, it's a job I could never really recommend, purely due to there honestly being no real need for it. The ability to instantly max out a stat in a single move is amazing, as are the near perfect universal weapon proficiency and stats, but the selfish nature of the job kills it. Ya, you can set up massive overkills with Bravely Second, but you wouldn't have to do that if you built a solid team rather than a funny gimmick Conjurer build. But what really hurts it is that a single support job from the mid game (Performer) basically invalidates it's whole gimmick by instead buffing the whole party to the max with a single extra action. Made even worse since you can use something like Pirate/Salve-Maker as a secondary on your performer (or vice-versa) to debuff the enemy as well and let each of your other 3 party members out damage a Conjurer.
Literally all Conjurer needed to be a good job would be a single spell/attack to definite itself and make it something other than a generalist stat booster. Freelancer has Examine, Prayer, and Mimic. Spell Fencer is for the most part the only consistent way to deal elemental physical damage. Red Mage allows you to consolidate the two primary magic jobs and has multiple forms of BP regen. Salve Maker does literally everything near-flawlessly while still having unique abilities like applying elemental weaknesses. Even Vampire sports innate heals and debuffs in addition to being a generalist. Conjurer is just a selfish Performer who literally cannot do anything noteworthy without relying on it's other job.
Well said, my friend! Also, thank you for always giving insight on each of these videos!
Are you going to cover the bravely second classes as well?
I plan to cover Bravely Second at some point in the future. It won't be anytime soon, but it will happen!