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Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
Very well done. It drives me nuts to hear these two used interchangeably.
Another great video thanks! Personally I ascribe to the dual meanings as well.
Man I can see the confusion now I thought this was a Shut and open case Thanks for explaining
Well, it's pretty much a closed case. Just remember what happened when Daniel in chapter 9 was waiting for an answer from God concerning what the people of Israel should do after the 70 years of captivity. Then in Daniel 10:13 the angel told Daniel that Michael was the prince of his people but just one of the princes that exist out there. It also mentions the prince of Persia as an opposing faction. This proves that fallen angels can be the ones staying in the shadows, the real power behind the throne, while the archangel Michael oversees Israel on God's behalf. So the devil can perfectly be the force empowering the king of Babylon back in the days.
Lucifer is Latin, it’s not even in the original text, the Hebrew is helel.
Amen! Got questions hitting it on the head again.
Lucifer is a nick name for a great king. It is Latin. It means morning star.
Revelation 22:16
“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.”
Lucifer is a latin word of helel the king of babylon
@@FxGC3 wrong
@@dafflad1 right
@@FxGC3 you so silly
@@dafflad1 The problem is they translated the Hebrew word הֵילֵ֣ל or helel as “Lucifer.” The word helel is only used here in the Bible. It comes from a root meaning “shining one.” However, Lucifer isn’t an English translation of the Hebrew word helel. It’s a Latin translation of the word
Heaven sent him here for us!!
God cast him to Earth. To us. Why?
He had the whole universe and vast options
The morningstar sheds light into every area of darkness into light. It brings him joy to help you elevate spiritually. He is very patient and understanding 🙏 I hope you take that leap to get to know him and your flame grows stronger every day 💘
Morning star means “Glory” - 1 corinthians 15:41
Morning star refers to angels glory - Job 38:7,
Morning star refers to Lucifer’s glory the king of babylon - isaiah 14:12
Bright morning star is Jesus glory- revelation 22:16
God will give us morning star/glory - revelation 2:26-28
Morning Star is also one of Jesus's titles.
💯
*Bright Morning Star
@@Notorious_BigSmoke
That asterisk suggests an attempt at correction.
I love correction, when it is correct.
Please provide the chapter and verse, so I can see why you've made this comment
@@joshuakarr-BibleMan@joshuakarr-BibleMan
Revelation 22:16, which says, "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star".
Jesus is also called the bright moring star while Lucifer is called moring star not bright.
The angle of the Lord, which was Jesus before becoming Human was in the form of an angle and lucifer was called one of the best angles
Just as Jesus says the Theift hinting at Satan roars as a lion while Jesus is called a Lion.
Jesus is always a title above lucifer because not only was he an angle and human but he was God in the forms of his creations.
Jesus
He is the Bright morning star
He is the lion of Judah
Lucifer
Moring star
Roars like a lion.
Hope you understand 😊
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It wasn’t Satan who tempted Eve. It was a serpent. And for its punishment, it was made to crawl the earth on its belly. Meaning the serpent originally had limbs or perhaps wings, something that kept it from slithering on the ground.
I appreciate your response and I am aware of what you mention in both part 1 and part 2.
I would say there is evidence of Satan being used as both a refrence to attributes and also linked to an individual fallen angel.
Job mentions an example of Satan coming with the other angeles to God to give an account of what He has been up to . That sounds more like a refrence to a being than just a concept.He is addressed in the Bible by multiple names which describe him father of lies , the devil that ancient serpent and so on.
Where we may differ is that Satan can only be reffered to as a descriptive personality trait -accuser and not the devil as well.
Jesus, we can argue isn't the Lord's proper name either He also has many descriptive names as well Son of man ,king of kings , the Anoited One , lion from the Tribe of Judah , Lamb of God , savoir and so on.But again this doesn't mean that these descriptive names do not refer to Christ the individual as well.
So my question is do you believe that there is a fallen angelic being that the Lord mentions falling from the heavens ? I do.
I view the Lord being tested and tempted in the wilderness by an evil spiritual being with a presence, intellect and a will and possessing not merely a trait but traits .
The Father of lies denotes a source a start of a behavoir - an individual.
I replied here because your earlier commentary and my response to it were removed from my view.
Is it youtube doing this ? If so wow.
Fairly good breakdown but if you only had read ONE more scripture, Isaiah 14:16, not stop at v.15 but one more... “They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the MAN that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;”. It's clear as day that Lucifer is the Latin word for "morning star," translated from the Hebrew word "Haylale" so the translators took the Latin word instead of the Hebrew word. V.12 should read, in English, "O Morning star", not "O Lucifer." It's not talking about Satan, it's talking about Nebuchadnezzar, the king of Babylon (Isaiah 14:4). And he being cast down from heaven is the same for the Israelites in Lamentations 2:1, "How hath the Lord covered the daughter of Zion with a cloud in his anger, and cast down from heaven unto the earth the beauty of Israel, and remembered not his footstool in the day of his anger!" It's not talking about literal heaven. It's talking about a haughty position, a prideful position, and being humbled.
Hi! I really think the point of the passage of Isaiah 14:12-15, the Almighty God was speaking to Lucifer through the King because Lucifer had taken over the King's Spirit that had caused him to be an evil man, so God had to remind Lucifer why he had been casted out of heaven because of Lucifer's desire to be God.
There is no Lucifer in that text, look it up in Hebrew, it’s helel, Lucifer is LATIN so it’s a translation of Hebrew to Latin and in English they left the Latin word instead of further translating it, likely because their doctrine.
I think you’re onto something. If what you say is true, I think something that supports your theory is when Jesus told Satan (not necessarily one of his disciple) in the NT to get behind him. “ But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.” -Matthew 16:23
In mainstream Biblical scholarship, most biblical scholars identify that the term "Lucifer" in Isaiah 14:12 refers to a Babylonian king, not a satan (adversary), and that the later identification of Lucifer with Satan is a post-biblical development. Early Christian theologians like Justin Martyr in the 2nd century CE first linked Lucifer with Satan, and Jerome's 4th-century Latin translation in the Vulgate further cemented the use of "Lucifer" as a reference to Satan. It wasn't until about 160 CE when Lucifer and Satan were identified as an ultimate malevolent being. That said, given all this occurred in the first centuries of Christian Tradition, it's extremely difficult to unwind and unsee Lucifer as Satan in popular Christian tradition. Reformers like Martin Luther and John Calvin were steeped in the theological traditions of the Church, including the widely held belief, supported by the Vulgate rather than the original manuscripts or the authors beliefs, that Lucifer in Isaiah 14 was a reference to the fall of Satan. Basically, nobody writing any part of the Bible and no character in the Bible believed Lucifer to be Satan; it's 2nd century and after Christian tradition. I find it a little disappointing that the video doesn't describe the history of how all this developed over the centuries.
Isaiah 14:12-15
“How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!”
13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
That pretty much sums up who he is. Satan fell in the first earth age. He is the son of the morning. Reve 12:7-9 clearly states that Michael will cast him out of heaven to this earth. Satan wanted to be Christ in the first earth age. He worked his way to top and God gave him the position to guard the mercy seat bc he earned it. But he didn’t want to guard it but instead sit on it. He became prideful and stopped loving God. That was his downfall. Satan has many names just as our Father does.
I think a lot of comments are missing the point or don't understand the question.
Lucifer is not another name for "Satan" or a proper name at all.
The text in Isaiah translates from Hebrew, to Greek to the Latin (Lucifer)
Hebrew:
helel ben-sahar -"Shining one, son of dawn"
Greek:
Phosphoros(shining)Eosphorou (dawn/morning)
Latin:
Lucifer (bright one/Venus) Aurorae (dawn/morning)
Lucifer simply describes the shining one, light bringere...the planet Venus as seen in the morning sky.
He is also Samael... A true witness when all other eyes are closed...
He's Samael
No you're just basing it off the lucifer series
@@jgrAnimations23 except he isn't.. (googled around:" In the Ascension of Isaiah, the Devil is referred to interchangeably as Samael, Belial, and Satan " )
Revelation 2:25-29 'But hold fast what you have till I come. And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations- ‘He shall rule them with a rod of iron; They shall be dashed to pieces like the potter’s vessels’ - as I also have received from My Father; and I will give him the morning star. “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” ’'
Revelation 22:16 (NKJV)
“I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”
lucifer is a depiction of man (not Satan) - like ADAM who was prestigiously made - gave up his right to operate in the image and likens God - fell from that position - Jesus comes to redeem and reposition the church as the Morning Star!
Satan was Liar and murderer from the beginning. When Jesus said I saw Satan fall like lightening He was refereeing to the repositioning of the people of God into a position that operates like HIM - which causes the works of satan to be demolished - who no longer has a hold on those who operate like the BRIGHT MORNING STAR!
Another AMEN! Well said
I appreciate your response and I am aware of what you mention in both part 1 and part 2.
I would say there is evidence of Satan being used as both a refrence to attributes and also linked to an individual fallen angel.
Job mentions an example of Satan coming with the other angeles to God to give an account of what He has been up to . That sounds more like a refrence to a being than just a concept.He is addressed in the Bible by multiple names which describe him father of lies , the devil that ancient serpent and so on.
Where we may differ is that Satan can only be reffered to as a descriptive personality trait -accuser and not the devil as well.
Jesus, we can argue isn't the Lord's proper name either He also has many descriptive names as well Son of man ,king of kings , the Anoited One , lion from the Tribe of Judah , Lamb of God , savoir and so on.But again this doesn't mean that these descriptive names do not refer to Christ the individual as well.
So my question is do you believe that there is a fallen angelic being that the Lord mentions falling from the heavens ? I do.
I view the Lord being tested and tempted in the wilderness by an evil spiritual being with a presence, intellect and a will and possessing not merely a trait but traits .
The Father of lies denotes a source a start of a behavoir - an individual.
I think name in Hebrew is Shachar, which is Morning Star - Venus. So the scribe translating the KJV chose the Latin word for Venus which is Lucifer; Phosphoros in the Greek.
Phosphoros was a Greek God
@@dannyboyakadandaman504furl9 yes, Venus.
@@robertcain3426 was he evil no
Job 38:7 While the morning stars sang together.......
Morning stars. Plural. Morning star does not refer to Venus. Common misconception. Jesus is also refered to as morning star. There are multiple morning stars. Nothing to do with Venus.
@@sebastianwehler3218 Imagery of Job 38:7, 'stars of the morning' which herald the dawn of light on the earth, which would include Venus but not in the sense of a proper noun being attributed to any of them.
Lucifer was his Angel name before he fell satin was after the fall it means “the accuser” or “adversary” meaning opponent or enemy because he’s the great accuser of man and a great adversary, names have meanings to name something is to give meaning to it that’s why God has many names and gives different names there’s many examples in the Bible of this 😇🙏🏻 Abraham and Sarah is a great example
No he wasn’t
Show me the bible verse
@@jgrAnimations23 Lucifer is another name for Satan. Famously, John Milton used this name for Satan in Paradise Lost. There is no verse in the Bible that says, “Lucifer is Satan.” In fact, there is some dispute as to whether Lucifer is even a proper name in the Bible.
Lucifer is Latin and Isaiah was written in Hebrew so no, it’s an untranslated Latin word in English Bibles and is not it the Hebrew at all. Just go look it up, the original word before Latin is helel.
הֵילֵל
Transliteration: hêlēl
Pronunciation: hay-lale'
Part of Speech: masculine noun
Root Word (Etymology): From הָלַל (H1984) (in the sense of brightness)
TWOT Reference: 499a
Outline of Biblical Usage:
Lucifer = "light-bearer"
shining one, morning star, Lucifer
of the king of Babylon and Satan (fig.)
(TWOT) 'Helel' describing the king of Babylon
The answer is yes. Satan was known as Lucifer before he was cast down.
Nope , catholic priest pray to Lucifer in Vatican and they are not satanists. What about that ?
The answer is no. Satan was known as Samael, not Lucifer.
@@ghosteyes2708The answer is actually yes Satan actually refers to a “heavenly being cast down to the earth” also God never refers to Satan as Samael? If you may show me the verse in which he ever calls him that?
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Read the lucifer verse in context please, read the whole chapter of Isaiah 14, he is talking about Babylon and then the king of babylon, it has nothing to do with an evil entity, if u just read the blurb then u think its an angelic being but when u read it in context its clear as day.
I'm glad you think it's clear as day. Many Hebrew scholars would disagree.
Yes, its obviously king of Babylon. All this lucifer stuff is absolute nonsense.
As I mentioned on another reply here, spiritual powers are hidden behind the thrones. The book of the prophet Daniel is a testimony of that, especially in chapter 10. Plus, when did the king of Babylon that would get killed by the Medo-Persians know God or repent from his sins like Nechabudnezzar did? He had no respect for God, he didn't even understand that the utensils and cups and all the other stuff N. had stolen from Jerusalem were sacred and he should not have poured wine in them to get drunk. Or did that last Babylonian king proclaim anything that sounded even slightly similar to "seating on the throne of God" or "the recesses of the north" at some point? He never did, those weren't his human thoughts at all. Those are the devil's for sure!
@@astutik8909so why catholic high priest pray to Lucifer in public ?
The king of Babylon in the end times is Satan.
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I Am Lucifer Heylel lumiel Morningstar, The Son of The Dawn,The Shining One,The Anointed Cherub,The Seraphim of Light,The Archangel of Knowldge and Freedom and Enlightenment,The Original Fallen Angel,The Serpent,The Dragon,The Devil.
No. I love Lucifer. Waking up to the morning sun, Lucifer is wonderful!
Yes as he’s the morning star, the handsome beautiful black haired human looking angel fallen from heaven (fallen angel) still pretty to look at even when fallen from heaven, while Satan is the ugly scary to look at(and think about) red skinned horned demon and demon king who isn’t the morning star but the king of demons, and jus like some modern HUMANS now, some modern humans now believe in god and are in god’s side while other are “satanist” and acknowledge god’s existence but oppose to him and likely hate him and are on Satan’s side(satanist) meaning that Satan himself can corrupt ppl’s minds and make them evil like how palpatine did to anakin/Vader, meaning yes god did create Lucifer but didn’t create him as evil but rather Lucifer was prolly once in god’s side until Satan corrupted his mind and turned him against god and he rebelled against god, simple story: god created Lucifer, Lucifer was god’s side Satan corrupted Lucifer’s mind and Lucifer rebelled against god.
Well, if Satan itself is not a name, then what is it?
'Satan' is a title. In the Bible he is never given a proper name (as angels Michael and Gabriel have). Which shows how un-important it is for the evil one to have a name at all. God wrote the Bible and never gave Satan a name. But he is only referred to as prince of darkness, the deceiver etc. etc. Many people think (as this guy said) that "Lucifer" is the name...but like Satan, Lucifer is ALSO a Title. Lucifer is a LATIN word not from the Hebrew. There's a story behind why the Bible transcriber from Hebrew to Latin made that word substitution, but don't know if that's a true story or not.
@@kristenspencer9751 I believe it is also in the Jewish version of the Bible that the serpent in Genesis is an ex-archangel named samael (who also fell from heaven), but that’s if you believe the serpent and the devil are the same
@@kristenspencer9751 God never wrote the bible, it was written by 66 anonymous authors way after Jesus died. The original (real) Christians did not have a new testament, they followed the laws of the old testament and would have considered the new testament to be a heresy.
Lucifer isn't a person it was another word for Venus.... Lucifer and Jesus are the same person, the church created that story, Lucifer and Jesus was against God bcuz he is a false entity (being)
@@ghosteyes2708 The Holy Spirit wrote through the Apostles His Words, not man's. Sinful men like their sins and would have never written a book like the Holy Bible. Both the OT and NT are from a supernatural source and only God, Himself can reveal the Scriptures to man, it is not up to mens interpretation of it. I sense you are not a born against believer in Christ Jesus. Repent and trust in Christ alone.
Isaiah 14:13,14 describing the ascending and falling from heaven are also applicable to the king of Babylon. Because it is another way of describing his great pride and ambition to rule over others. By conquering surrounding nations his throne was exalted high above them, which is figuratively like ascending to heaven. He said 'I will be like the most High', in other words he desired to reign over the other nations like a god'. His downfall is then figuratively falling from heaven.
In verse 12 it calls him Lucifer which means light bearer. The title of light bearer and son of the morning is an applicable description for a king whose brightness or glory shines above other nations. Other translations have 'day star', 'morning star', or 'shining star', which gives the idea that this king was the brightest star among other stars or kings. The Good News Bible reads 'King of Babylon, bright morning star, you have fallen from heaven! In the past you conquered nations, but now you have been thrown to the ground.'
Why would God dedicate so much text to some mortal human king. Lucifer is far more important and relevant to world history and the course of mankind. It would just make sense that the text passage has a double meaning that tells us roughly why Satan is an evil angel, since God cannot possibly create someone inherently evil. Even without the passage we would know that Satan is a powerful, high ranking angel fallen from grace.
Look at Psalm 22 and it's references to Jesus. The Bible has a LOT of these tie overs in the Old Testament
If you really read Ish 14, he was referring to a mortal man
@@omezieanyika3815 YUP! And if someone wants to attribute the passage to someone, it can be a "type" of Adam...Adam fell from grace. Adam was God's most perfect creation (Gen 1:31) and it was for his human creations that God said: how you have fallen.
Isaiah 45:7
King James Version
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
Because it’s not just some mortal king of a little country. Being a king of a world power like Babylon is nothing to scoff at or underestimate.
Amen GQ 🙂✝️🙏
Lucifer was another WORD (not name) for the morning star (aka the planet VENUS) until protestants misinterpreted Isaiah 14. Jesus (& GOD for that matter) is and always has been the morning star in a spiritual sense 2 Peter 1:19 & Revelation 22:16 & Jesus even says that his people will shine as the stars so him being their chief would be the brightest Matthew 13:43. Never did Jesus take Satan's place in heaven as the morning star. But the context of JESUS being the morning star is what is missing from most if not all interpretations of Isaiah 14.
Lucifer is not satan. Jesus is Lucifer.
Lucifer has his own text dedicated to him.
Was Lucifer an archangel like Michael, or was just a covering cherub and a gifted beautiful angel?
No one knows. It alludes to it being a cherub, but nothing more
Lucifer wasn’t an Angel he was a Demi god in Roman Mythology. In Greek mythology, Hesiod calls Phosphorus a son of Astraeus and Eos, but other say of Cephalus and Eos, or of Atlas
@@dannyboyakadandaman504furl9 we're not talking made up religions. We're discussing scripture. Lucifer is a title of an individual that God is specifically addressing. Strong assumptions can be made that it is the same being as the satan. That same being is referred to as a cherub in scripture.
@@Andromedon777 nope incorrect
@@Andromedon777 In Greco-Roman civilization, it was often personified and considered a god[7] and in some versions considered a son of Aurora (the Dawn).[8] A similar name used by the Roman poet Catullus for the planet in its evening aspect is "Noctifer" (Night-Bringer).[9]
Ezekiel 28:...onward.... describes Lucifer as a covering angel... A cherub....
Always study from the KING JAMES VERSION of the HOLY BIBLE people.
Why? Because other versions OMIT very important things, words etc: like the power of PRAYING AND FASTING as stated in The New Testament of the HOLY BIBLE KJV. Other versions OMIT the word “Fasting”
We all know how Fasting is POWERFUL TO CONNECT WITH GOD. And when other versions of the HOLY BIBLE OMIT / TAKE OUT the POWERFUL word “Fasting.”
No! They are two completely different entities and are not one in the same! Lucifer is Yaldabaoth, Vishnu, Brahma, Thanatos, Enki, Sin/Nannar, Prince Ea, YHWH/Jehov (sometimes).
Satan corresponds more with Marduk! He is Horus, Baal, Utu Shamaash, Mithra, Ahriman, Ares and he goes by many many other names! One is good & evil (dualistic nature) while the latter is pure evil!
@@BatKraken742 The ancient texts are my sources as well as syncreticm and connecting crucial dots!
@@BatKraken742 Scripture? The bible & quran do not contain the whole truth! In order to connect crucial dots we need to go into the ancient texts which pre-dates the bible, enuma elish and genesis!
the judeo-christian lore is so interesting
Very disappointing video. Poor analysis overall. You just wanted to state your opinion without thorough research into this topic.
Lucifer in Isaiah is used as an analogy to the morning star Venus. It's not to identify Satan (as if his personal name is Lucifer)
Lucifer isn’t even in the Hebrew text at all, it’s an untranslated Latin word, the Hebrew is helel:
הֵילֵל
Transliteration: hêlēl
Pronunciation: hay-lale'
Part of Speech: masculine noun
Root Word (Etymology): From הָלַל (H1984) (in the sense of brightness)
TWOT Reference: 499a
Outline of Biblical Usage:
Lucifer = "light-bearer"
shining one, morning star, Lucifer
of the king of Babylon and Satan (fig.)
(TWOT) 'Helel' describing the king of Babylon
Jesus speaks to Mystic Maria Valtorta in The poem of Man-God about Satan ...." Lucifer was an angel, the most beautiful of all the angels, a perfect spirit,
inferior only to God, and yet in his bright essence a vapour of pride arose and he
did not scatter it. On the contrary, he condensed it by brooding over it. And Evil
was born of this incubation. It existed before man. God had hurled him out of
Paradise, the cursed incubator of Evil, who had desecrated Paradise. But he is
the eternal incubator of Evil and as he can no longer soil Paradise, he has soiled
the earth".
Thank you so much
The angelic name of satan is unknown...but satan and lucifer( light bearer) is one and the same person....that's its...theologians like confusing people
What if its something like Simon whoes name changed to peter......lucifer was an angel......he was only satan when he was cast out...just my thoughts
Lucifer was never an Angel. Satan's angelic name is Samael.
Sheol means grave so how can he be put in a grave? The bottomless pit is where Satan will go to in the future. The king must have been a human one in Isaiah.
In the OT Satan is an examiner for God, he works for Him. The uderstanding of Satan has been changed due to mans later interpretations.
Huh what are u talking about bruh
@@mikekeyes78 If you read all the references to Satan in the OT you will clearly find out that he worked with and for God and the the interpretation of him in the NT is totally different.
@@dongee1664 He tempted humanity into sin in the old testament lying about God's intentions concerning the forbidden fruit.
God is able to see the future and in the example of Job we see that God sets boundaries as to what Satan can do. So in that sense no matter Satan's evil intentions God will turn all things for the good of those who love Him.
But Satan's intent is not to work for or with God. God looks at the intent and motives of the heart . Satan's very nature is adversarial and not cooperative , He told God concerning Job that he would curse Him.
I'm not seeing any inconsistensies in Satan's work in the New Testament from that of the Old Testament. In the New Testament Jesus tells Peter Satan has asked to sift you....and then informs him that He , (Jesus) has prayed for him and he will eventually be strengthened by the Holy Spirit.
@@bigben9379 Thanks, I do not interpret to suit, I take the words as said. The Bible does not claim that it was Satan who was involved with the Adam and Eve story, it was a serpent. If it was Satan it would have said. God condoned all off Job's actions, 'as long as you don't kill him,' and look at the vile things that happened there with God's consent. Study the Bible and you will see how God's chosen people were the Israelites, no others. God then proceeded to anhialate countless, non Israelite humans, to obtain a land that they coveted. Study the history and you will see that when the Israelites separated from Caanan they invented their own God from other previously known beliefs, everybody else had one, why shouldn't they.
Ask yourself... If God created man and man brought the one and only creation story forward then how is that no other neighbouring state or city knew of their God, in fact nowhere in the world did. Why is it that God performed such acts that are concidered inhuman in a civilised society.
What I have stated is factual, not interpretation... how do you explain how God is loving?
@@dongee1664 I responded with what I felt was a pretty in depth response to your coment but apparently someone somewhere along the line did not approve which is a shame.
Basically I understand that you believe in literal reading of the Bible but there are instances where symbolism and metaphors will indeed need interpretation and the Holy Spirit will be necessary for understanding.
For example Jesus is not a literal lamb nor lion yet there is truth behind these symbols when looking at His attributes. Same can be said of Satan ,the devil that ancient serpent , the deceiver and on and on.
God is love but God is also holy, good doesn't lie EYC. So it maybe more useful to look at God holeistically.
My view on the chosen people is that God has always had a remnant since Abraham foraward who were justified by faith in what was to come and what has occurred ,the promise -the Messiah. God is Spirit and must be worshipped in Spirit and Truth . Man looks at the physical but Jesus preached it is the Holy Spirit that affords us understanding.
It must also be mentioned and Paul discusses this too, we aren't going to know everything . We are looking dimly now . That is where faith comes into play ,following Christ without knowing or understanding it all but understanding enough. Only God has all the answers.
The salvation message has not changed since the days of Jesus preaching to people in His day to people preaching the gospel today. There is only one way to the Father and that is through His Son Jesus and evidenced by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
If you do not have this relationship with God I hope you will in the future.
The name Lucifer occurs once in the Scriptures and only in some versions of the Bible. For example, the King James Version renders Isaiah 14:12: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!”
The Hebrew word translated “Lucifer” means “shining one.” The Septuagint uses the Greek word that means “bringer of dawn.”....some translations say “morning star” or “Daystar.” some say (light bearer)
The expression “shining one,” or “Lucifer,” is found in what Isaiah prophetically commanded the Israelites to pronounce as a “proverbial saying against the king of Babylon.”....if you read the verses surrounding the name its obvious that its primarily directed at the Babylonian dynasty and King Nebuchadnezzar...there are multiple reasons supporting this....first the description “shining one” is given to a man and not to a spirit creature --->“Down to Sheol you will be brought.” Sheol is the common grave of mankind not a place occupied by Satan...(Job prayed and asked to die and go to Sheol until God's anger for him passed in Job 14:13)... also seeing Lucifer brought into this condition (inside Sheol) ask: “Is this the man that was agitating the earth?” its clear, “Lucifer” refers to a human, not to a spirit creature...Isaiah 14:4, 15, 16
the king of Babylon was called the shining one only after his fall and in a taunting way...God was trolling him (Isaiah 14:3) Selfish pride made Babylon’s kings to elevate themselves above those around them....they were extremely arrogant and are portrayed as bragging... “To the heavens I shall go up. Above the stars of God I shall lift up my throne, and I shall sit down upon the mountain of meeting, in the remotest parts of the north. . . . I shall make myself resemble the Most High.”
I wish every one reads your comment, especially the ones that mistakenly think satan's angelic name is lucifer, i am wondering what actually was the name of the satan before becoming satan i guess no one will know
@petkotavliev9198 thats a good question I doubt we will ever know...I feel that is a primary reason why satan has gone to the lengths he has to remove God's actual name from the bible...Gods actual name was in the original Hebrew scriptures over 3000 times
Satan is literally described as an angel of light. Like Lucifer. Oops. There goes your argument. 🤷♂️
@@IAmAlpharius20 Read his comment again, Lucifer the shining one aka Helel, The king of babylon. The shining king that fall being mocked by the jews, there is symbology in this verse and in the latin translation of kj hey translate it as lucifer cause for the shining one that was the word, it has nothing to do with satan what so ever. You will not see in the bible anywhere saying something about lucifer being an angel it is just confused christians that read it and make up a whole other story and now it comes to here where so many people think that is the name of the devil
@@petkotavliev9198 "nooooo stoopid xtian! Believe my satanic lies 😭 "
NO.
2 Corinthians 11:142
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
The name Lucifer occurs once in the Scriptures and only in some versions of the Bible. For example, the King James Version renders Isaiah 14:12: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!”
The Hebrew word translated “Lucifer” means “shining one.” The Septuagint uses the Greek word that means “bringer of dawn.”....some translations say “morning star” or “Daystar.” some say (light bearer)
The expression “shining one,” or “Lucifer,” is found in what Isaiah prophetically commanded the Israelites to pronounce as a “proverbial saying against the king of Babylon.”....if you read the verses surrounding the name its obvious that its primarily directed at the Babylonian dynasty and King Nebuchadnezzar...there are multiple reasons supporting this....first the description “shining one” is given to a man and not to a spirit creature --->“Down to Sheol you will be brought.” Sheol is the common grave of mankind not a place occupied by Satan...(Job prayed and asked to die and go to Sheol until God's anger for him passed in Job 14:13)... also seeing Lucifer brought into this condition (inside Sheol) ask: “Is this the man that was agitating the earth?” its clear, “Lucifer” refers to a human, not to a spirit creature...Isaiah 14:4, 15, 16
the king of Babylon was called the shining one only after his fall and in a taunting way...God was trolling him (Isaiah 14:3) Selfish pride made Babylon’s kings to elevate themselves above those around them....they were extremely arrogant and are portrayed as bragging... “To the heavens I shall go up. Above the stars of God I shall lift up my throne, and I shall sit down upon the mountain of meeting, in the remotest parts of the north. . . . I shall make myself resemble the Most High.”
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Yes
¿Es posible esta enseñanza en español? Gracias y que Dios los bendiga siempre.
Why does Luke 17 say there will be 2 men in the bed, one taken one left. When did it become 2 men
the version has been recently edited on the online versions of KJV:/
That you might know a lion is not a hippo is not a bee. The dragon, the Lion, the lucifer. Satan the hippo is Hitler. Tracy Porter bodyguard of the joker was a bee and is Beezlebub.
Yes.
90% of the original Old Testament has been left out and 50% of he original New Testament has been left out. Not o mention they were both fabricated from muliple prior faiths. I use to believe with bible whole heartedly...then I learnd history
The way I understand it is Lucifer is the individual where Satan is the catchall for all the opposers of God.
Who cares about the devil or his works it not for me 💒
Amen
No
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All that terrifying biblical programming can honestly be a bit difficult so i think that there has been a place of wellness and being to where we can deprogram all these convoluted concepts. So that the kids are ok and the parents are ok.. the fall from heaven is probably a story about how you would come back to regular resonance.. and if you were an old person you could go home to that lovelight or place.
Just know you are safe and youre just fine. Im truly believing that we are safe because we would design it to be that way.
Why is the thumbs up 👍 stuck at 666!?!??
Lucifer Fallin Angel, Satan After the Fall.
Lucifer is an untranslated Latin word and not in the Hebrew text at all, the Hebrew is helel
הֵילֵל
Transliteration: hêlēl
Pronunciation: hay-lale'
Part of Speech: masculine noun
Root Word (Etymology): From הָלַל (H1984) (in the sense of brightness)
TWOT Reference: 499a
Outline of Biblical Usage:
Lucifer = "light-bearer"
shining one, morning star, Lucifer
of the king of Babylon and Satan (fig.)
(TWOT) 'Helel' describing the king of Babylon
The Bible never says what Satan’s name was before he rebelled. The Hebrew word in some Bibles is translated “Lucifer” means ‘shining one.’ (Isaiah 14:12) The context shows that this term refers to the dynasty, or line of kings of Babylon which God would humiliate for its arrogance. (Isaiah 14:4,13-20) The expression “shining one” was used to mock the Babylonian dynasty after it was overthrown.
Further, the statement “Down to Sheol you will be brought” (Sheol is the common grave of mankind) shows that this is not a place occupied by Satan the Devil. Moreover, those seeing Lucifer brought into this condition ask: “Is this THE MAN that was agitating the earth?” Clearly, ‘’Lucifer’’ refers to a human, not a spirit creature.
the most reasonable comment
Evil is real …IF…. You perceive it to be. Therefore I don’t. Now it’s ALL good.
No matter if you are oblivious to the world or not, evil exists for right now.
@@joysprout yes evil exist…because we give it power. What we give power to grows. What we don’t shrivels up and dies…choose life
@@willcollier7338 I agree we should choose life but we should know that evil does exist and avoid evil in our lives. We can't avoid it if we dont recognize it.
@@joysprout keep trying…you’ll never avoid it. Turn it over to God and walk away from it.. Never to see it come your way again.
@@willcollier7338 Well the Bible says that everyone will still sin, which is evil, even if they turn to God.
Matthew 6. Ask the Holy Spirit. El/Er - all archangels end in El for it is the latinized word for God (Al in arabic). Lucifel means Dawn/Light of God. Lucifer would be the result. Er is to oppose. Satan is to oppose the light, many Satans, you use this so you don't give them glory by naming them before the Lord, that simple. The one that is "ruler" of this place is Azazel, the scapegoat - what the name means since he was the one who was cast out for the fall of man, considers himself the scapegoat. Many names in mythology that are the same for the fallen one, Apollo is the most broadly used (Helios the Greek equivalent). Don't trust any works with these names as all pagans do like moon missions and earth models. They use that name for a reason, only the vain (vanity/pride) will fall for it/delight in it. Then you don't need to debate with people over it - it's called Apollo's Theater in the Big Apple for a reason where the Broadway is. Our father puts the writing on the wall for those that don't want to dwell in darkness/doubt.
amen 😇
....and didn't answer the question smh. Neutral position.
The answer is yes. Satan was known as Lucifer before he was cast down from heaven for rebellion against God.
2:20
Interesting.
"Biblical Perspective"?? Paradise Lost is your proof? You're poorly educated!
No he is not.
God is Satan in the bible aka Enlil
Lucifer is Jesus aka Enki
True GOD is The Creator
And U are also Devine like The Creator
Lucifer was the first arc angel & the most beautiful.
Untill he started a war in heaven trying to replace God
Satan was working threw the wicked
Lucifer vs Satan vs antichrist battle royal
Less than weak.
Rubbish, Rubbish, Sa-tan is his name, Shalom ❤🙏Amen.
Nope
Maggots gotta eat too; circle of life. or death
Lucifer is Satan before his fall, his angelic name, stripped from him during his boot from heaven, he became Satan, the serpent, the devil, tho he is referenced too as both names.
No. Lucifer is a Greco-Roman god of light.
yes lucifer is satan.
Lucifer is name which means= shining or light- bearer( halel. הילל).
Satan and devil are just titles, like Dr, Teacher, professor.
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GOD created perfect angelic hosts, among them was Lucifer who wanted to be god--who rebelled because he'll bow to the coming human made out of mud/soil.😁
Lucifer was defeated together with his 1/3 fallen angels down here on earth--as penalty, became Satan! 😁
Having realized to have been became opposite of perfection & beauty--defies all GOD and created beings! Hitherto, Satan with his minions are causing havoc, disunity, harm against humanity ever since he caused the fall of Adam and Eve in Paradise: all of whom were cast out "in this valley of tears"!
Bible has it that our battle is against Satan and fallen angels from within and from without (human fallen nature)--but despite, humans are created in the image and likeness of GOD, who are being encouraged by the Lord Jesus Christ "to be perfect just like the Holy Father God! 😁
Do you ever wonder where the dualism theories came from? You know, the ones that say there are two opposite and independent principles in reality, like mind and body, or good and evil. Well, I have a very funny idea about that. Maybe it all started when Adam and Eve found the snake in the Garden of Eden. They were so surprised by this funny and speaking creature that they didn't realize it was not the devil, but just a snake. Maybe the devil entered the snake to tempt them, but there is no scripture to support that. Maybe because we didn't understand it, we decided to create dualism to make sense of it. We thought there must be a good force and a bad force in the world, and the snake was the bad one. But we couldn't find any supporting scriptures that called the snake the fallen angel. Instead, we found references to the red dragon, which is not an angel but close to the snake. And also, Jesus said that the devil never had any truth in him from the beginning, but we said he was holy before his fall. I think it's time to change our mind, don't you? It's funny how a simple misunderstanding can lead to such complex theories. read Isaiah 54:16, Isaiah 45:7 let God be God....
Woww.. I just got to know today about the same point you mentioned that Lucifer was holy before getting the pride in him but Satan was evil from his origin ( by my pastor) Which makes them 2 different entities. This thing was new to me and it makes me confuse as well. I think, I need to research more on this topic.
Lucifer's Pride and Greed started from heaven not on earth.. He tried to organise a Coupe which didn't go well so he was cast down with the 3rd of the other angels..
well
Ezekiel 28:13a “Thou (Satan) hast been in Eden, the garden of God.”
more scriptural principles to think.about
We know angels do God's will (Hebrews 1:14). Would a fallen angel if it existed be doing God's will?
We are told Jesus destroyed the devil on the cross by his death (Hebrews 2:14)
If Satan was an angel which sinned is that possible? Angels are immortal but the wages of sin is death we are told. So the immortal Satan must die - a contradiction in terms.
God is almighty. There is no other God. God's power cannot be challenged by anyone, a fallen angel or otherwise. So who God id does not allow for Satan in the mythical sense. Instead we find many instances in the bible of where Satan is an adversary, someone who opposes someone. Even Gid Himself is termed Satan in the numbering of Israel by Satan.
Lucifer is a proper name. Lucifer is the Latin name for Phosphorus, who is a Greek titan, not Satan. This is a mistranslation from the Latin Vulgate that was propagated to the KJV. Phosphorus represented Venus as the morning star while his brother, Hesperos, represented Venus as the evening star.
He wasn’t a titan !
@@dannyboyakadandaman504furl9 All you have to do is look it up.
Isn't Jesus referred to as the morning Star as well? Revelation 22-16 I believe. Is Jesus in fact Lucifer? He seems to proclaim that in said verse. 16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”
They're the same person read the Gospel, they was against the god in the Bible who is Satan also.... Lucifer is actually referring to Venus another world to describe Venus the church made it a person check the Gospels
Lucifer Satan is the devil's uncle which the devil Lucifer gynthania
Jesus died on the cross so that we can be forgiven for our sins, so that we can repent and enjoy a relationship with God now and later. The rapture could happen soon.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
After the tribulation of those days is when Jesus Christ comesback.
Historically, Lucifer and Satan are (2) separate beings. Lucifer AKA "the light bearer", represents ungrounded forms of spirituality that drives humanity away from the purpose of our human existence. Satan, AKA the adversary, on the opposite side of the pole represents extreme materialism, and the worship of our material existence and our chemical bodies over our spiritual nature. The Christ exhibits the perfect balance between these two extremes and ascended to heaven. Yeshua, known to us in the west as simply, Jesus. bless all who lay eyes here.
someone has read Rudolf Steiner 😉 imo, you're right on the money, I think this narrative is pretty accurate.
Yes he is Satan, plus he has other name to go by all so what ever other ppl want to call him LoL
There isn’t a true answer cuz in some other religions Lucifer is actually separate from Satan
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In the Holy Bible in Luke 10:18 , Jesus says, I saw SATAN fall like lightning from Heaven.
In the Bible Isaiah - 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer son of the morning ! how art thou cut down to the ground, which did weaken the nation!
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God:
I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the side of the north.
I will ascend above the height of the cloud; I will be like the most high.
Yet thou shalt be brought down to Hell , to the side of pit.
In Matthews 4:1-11 At that time Jesus was led by the spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil , He fasted for forty days and forty Night and afterwards was hungry.
The tempter approached and said to him , if you are the Son of God, command that these stones become loaves of bread,
Everything you need to know is in the Holy Bible and no other religion that is true but one the believers of the Holy Bible
Old dragon is watching you the old serpent the devil old Lucifer
Lucifer = Jesus Christ.
The light bearer of the world.
Blasphemy Jesus is God Lucifer is an angel who betrayed God lied to humans and angels, invented lying and dared to tempt Jesus with the things of the Earth.
@@GreenPhoenix91
"Blasphemy Jesus is God Lucifer is an angel who betrayed God"
Wrong!
John 8:12: Jesus Christ states "[he] is the light of the World."
Consequently, declaring himself to be Lucifer the light bearer.
If you read the Bible in Latin, then it would be clear for you.
@AdoptedSonofGod
"Blasphemy"
Wrong!
John 8:12: Jesus Christ states "[he] is the light of the World."
Consequently, declaring himself to be Lucifer the light bearer.
If you read the Bible in Latin, then it would be clear for you.
@AdoptedSonofGod
"Can Satan cast out Satan?"
No, if we are being honest.
Yes, if we are playing semantics.
lol
No. Lucifer is not Jesus, nor Satan. Jesus calls himself the morning star because he's copied from other gods who accomplished the same miracles as him and were nicknamed the eastern (morning) star.
You are totally wrong on this one! According to revelation 22 16 JESUS clearly stated that he is the ROOT and OFFSPRING OF DAVID and the BRIGHT MORNING STAR! In Isaiah 14 12 MORNING STAR is referred to as LUCIFER the fallen one which means Jesus is Lucifer or the son of the morning! This came from your christian Bible!
Yuletide Warmest Greetings!
GOD created perfect angelic hosts, among them was Lucifer who wanted to be god--who rebelled because he'll bow to the coming human made out of mud/soil.😁
Lucifer was defeated together with his 1/3 fallen angels down here on earth--as penalty, became Satan! 😁
Having realized to have been became opposite of perfection & beauty--defies all GOD and created beings! Hitherto, Satan with his minions are causing havoc, disunity, harm against humanity ever since he caused the fall of Adam and Eve in Paradise: all of whom were cast out "in this valley of tears"!
Bible has it that our battle is against Satan and fallen angels from within and from without (human fallen nature)--but despite, humans are created in the image and likeness of GOD, who are being encouraged by the Lord Jesus Christ "to be perfect just like the Holy Father God! 😁