Did one third of the angels fall with Lucifer? | GotQuestions.org
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- When, where, why, and how many angles fell from heaven according to this Biblical interpretation. In this video, we answer the question: “Did one third of the angels fall with Lucifer?”
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We apologize for the incorrect Scripture reference at 1:06 - 1:18. It should be Isaiah 14:12-15 instead of Revelation 12:3-4.
We apologize for the incorrect Scripture reference at 1:06 - 1:18. It should be Isaiah 14:12-15 instead of Revelation 12:3-4.
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The second temple Jews (which NT writers were part of that group) didn’t believe demons were fallen angels but rather the bastard spirits of the dead Nephilim, the hybrid beings in Genesis 6.1-4.
The sons of God are actually the descendants of Seth...not the fallen angels. See Luke 3:38, it mentioned that Adam is the son of God and so are the rest.
@@louism8911 so, according to your interpretation, are the sons of God in Job 1.6 also descendants of Seth? What about Deuteronomy 32.8, were they also descendants of Seth?
@@spacemanspiff9773 Some times it’s referring to men sometimes angels, Exodus 7:1 God calls Moses Elohim which sometimes means judge. Based on context. Psalm 82 is speaking of Judges men that were given the scripture to judge the people. Jesus says this in John 10:34
@@carlosjimenez6738 in Exodus 7.1 Yahweh said he would make Moses “like” elohim to pharaoh, not that he would actually be elohim. Psalm 82 is talking about Yahweh pronouncing judgment on the gods of the nations. It doesn’t make sense to interpret Jesus’s use of that text if he were talking about human judges (which I don’t think Old Testament writers ever alluded to that). The reason the Pharisees thought it was blasphemous was because Jesus implied he was Yahweh who pronounced judgment on the gods. You can’t accuse a person of blasphemy if he claimed to be a judge, but you can if he claims to be God if he wasn’t.
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What horrifies me is that a huge chunk of the angelic population has experienced the full glory of God, and yet were somehow convinced to rebel and follow Lucifer, despite Lucifer being quite obviously inferior to God in every conceivable way.
Lucifer is not the name of the devil/satan
1/3 of the OG's disagreed.
@@BitterDawn ?
It's still happening today, but this time Men, not Angels
@@NikolaTesla_369 Lucifer is what 33rd degree Freemasons in the government follow today. It’s literally satan look at the Statue of Liberty it’s Lucifer
We DONT KNOW WHEN JESUS WILL RETURN
saith who?
@@SealedbyWisdom Sayeth even the Son know not... the scripture
I’m a little late to this discussion, however, I have some commentary that must be understood herein. Nowhere in scripture does it say that a third of the stars or angels fell. This is a common but unfortunate and sad misunderstanding of Koine Greek, of Byzantine era culture and even of Elizabethan English. Nowhere in scripture does it mention a number of stars or angels who rebelled or fell. This is not numerical. This is categorical. It specifically states that a third PART of the stars or angels fell. A category. Precisely, one of the distinct PARTS of the whole. In other words there were three distinct categories of the whole. “The whole” referring to all of the stars or angels of heaven. If one reads all of scripture, the apocrypha and ancient historical texts not canonized, the full picture becomes clear. There were three distinct PARTS of the angels during pre-earthly existence. One PART readily accepted God’s plan and supported God exclusively and fought alongside Michael the Archangel. (These are the wheat spoken of by Jesus in parable.) One PART openly rebelled against God and fought alongside Lucifer the rebellious Lightbringer. (These are the enemy spoken of by Jesus in parable.) One PART were more clandestine in that they openly pledged allegiance to God, but secretly were in league with Lucifer by pact as the very first recorded conspiracy. They did this under the direction of Lucifer in order to come to Earth and gain a physical body. As omniscient, God knew of Lucifer’s plan of conspiracy, yet honoring the eternal principle of agency allowed this deception. (These stars are the tares spoken of by Jesus in parable.) The tares grow up alongside the wheat only to be hewn down and thrown into the fire at harvest time. This is not about numbers. We do not know how many stars are in each category. All we really know is that there are three distinct categories or PARTS of the stars.
Context matters here in Revelation. Got Questions knows better. A text without context is a pretext to say whatever you want.
In Revelation 12, this event of a falling was not primordial or prior to human inhabitants filling the earth. This falling was a consequence of Jesus being caught up and ascended to the thone in heaven. The result Him taking place of authority as defeating death and darkness in the already but not yet, inaugurated kingdom on earth, Satan (an elohim) and "possibly" these other elohims (spirit beings) lost major territory in the "heavens" aka the unseen realm.
The fallen angels where they followed satan to his Damnation is whereby signifies the rebellion of satan into Hell
This is unclear, was it that a third of the angels followed Satan and another third fell to earth by the tail of the dragon? That's one third loyal to Satan and another third wandering the earth after they fell? That leaves god with one third
Were one-third of the angels original thinkers like the Morningstar or, were they doing what angels do, follow.
they have free will just like we do. they chose to leave their place in Heaven to interact and mate with women. they knew what they were doing.
Yes
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Satan is a defeated foe thanks to what Jesus did on the cross
Guys reference is "1 Opinions 36:7"....
1 Hypothesis would be more accurate than opinion IMHH
Really appreciate your ministry. You'll need to remove & replace this though, b/c the reference at 1:15 is incorrect, citing Rev. 12, instead of the OT!
You're wrong
@@a.l.646 It's citing Isaiah 14, but showing Rev. 12!
@@a.l.646 Ryan M. is correct. It is showing the words from Isaiah 14:12-15 (NKJV), but indicating that it is Revelation 12:3-4.
@@farmboy5622 You're wrong
@@a.l.646 Ummmm,.....did you actually look at a Bible and read Isaiah 14:12-15 and Revelation 12:3-4??? Did you compare it to what is around the 1:15 mark of the video??? If you did, you should plainly see that GotQuestions put the incorrect Scripture reference to what they wrote. That is not what Revelation 12:3-4 says. (They reference part of Revelation 12:3-4 around the 2:36 mark.) Revelation 12:3-4 (NIV) reads,.....3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. 4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born.
Soooooooooo,.....if Ryan M. and I are incorrect, please share with us how we are incorrect. I am baffled and would like to know. Unless you are a Non-Believer and are one of those people that just likes to stir the pot and try to rile Born-Again Believers up. Us Born-Again Believers, believe the Bible and can read it.
My question is when God said it is very good, to me references only what God created on earth . Because ever this else in heaven was already created.
You forgot to mention Matt 25:41(NKJV), Although, lt doesn't talk about a 3rd of the angels, Being in Hell.
The gate = Cern?
Fallen angels are demons? I thought Demons were the disembodied spirits of the offspring of angles mixing with females.
Really? Hmm never heard that. Which bible passage is that from?
Nowhere in scripture does it state that demons are the spirits of the nephilim, what we do know is that demons are fallen angels, they even begged Jesus not to torment them before their appointed time. “What do you want with us, Son of God?” they shouted. “Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?” Matthew 8:29. Much Love my Brother in Christ Stay informed and Read Scripture. ❤️✝️
@@fabianfollowerofchrist5299 we don't know this. Nowhere in scripture does it tell us that fallen angels are demons. There is as much or more evidence to believe demons are disembodied spirits of the nephilim. The truth is we don't know for sure
It’s precisely correct. Genesis 6. Jude. Peter. Book of Enoch. Keep traveling down this path. Demons are disembodied nephilim and the New Testament writes held this belief.
I think so too
What does Revelation 12:4 “Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born” mean?
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That means Satan and his demons aka fallen angels are here on earth their not in hell yet.... I know he offered Jesus the world because he rules it he has all the world rulers under his control.
The meaning is that Satan convinced a 1/3 of the angels to follow his plan of becoming fake jesus as he stated in Isiah 14. Stars are symbolic of God's sons (angels) and the tail is Satan's power of deception and lies. The dragon (Satan and his fallen angels or locust army) stood in front of the woman (woman meaning Abraham's seed (God's Children) who was about to give birth so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. That child is Our Lord Jesus Christ, Yashua, and like u see in scripture Satan tried to tempt the lord but he never succeed.
Jesus did what?? Oh no got to go
Wrong.
Unclean spirits are the dead nephilim who inhabits people today. Unclean due to the forbidden mixture Genesis 6
Dragons Tail Swept and Threw
Nearly all wrong
Each Zodiac sign has 3 decons... One + One - & One neutral.
1/3rd of the influence of planets are negative, or "fell with Satan"
There are no planets nor solar system because there is waters above the firmament. What exist before the Earth created? Waters - Gen 1:2...How many great lights? 2 - Sun and Moon, nothing else. God SET THEM IN the firmament at Gen 1:17
What next after the Waters? There is the third heaven which I believe that is God's throne and the paradise is located New Jerusalem, the great city. When we die, we go into the graves and wait for the Lord to pick us up on the last day just like Martha believe Lazarus will rise again or alive in Christ if we make it in the time frame.
Take care brother/sister :)
YOU ARE STILL READING THINGS THAT ARE NOT THERE IN SCRIPTURE. very very poor. No matter how much you dance in the Sand you still have not answered the Question!!!!!!!!!!!