Hash Ash I’ve never been a fan of Sten, he has some moments sure, but meh, and Wynne is all right, but she can be kind of nosy and annoying sometimes, and she leaves you if you defile the Urn of Sacred Ashes, she’s just kind of petty, but I do like her overall, Alistair, Morrigan, Leliana, Zevran, and Shale are the best though...
Now it makes much more sense why Wynne likes to troll Alistair and make him blush after Alistair falls in love with the Warden. Wynne sees Alistair as a young man similar of her son's age and is imagining her own son also pursuing his love now.
After reading Asunder, meeting Cole in Inquisition, and re-watching this banter I kind of still want to meet Rhys. Maybe we'll see his future in DA4, I'm curious about his relationship w/Evangeline; especially after the ending of the book.
Wynne was one of the best characters, and one of the most well-written. It's saddening what happened to her, but in the end, she died as a hero, for Rhys and Evangeline. I hope that in a future game, she will be mentioned. Maybe have either Rhys and Evangeline be in the next? Don't patronize me for hoping. You have to at least have a little positivity about anything, right?
I agree and share the same hope, but I think they wrapped up the Rhys and Evangeline storyline with that abysmal War Table in Inquisition, among many others. But hey, at least we got to shepherd an auroch through the entire hinterlands, right? That ought to be on the same level as far as storytelling and emotional impact goes. The War Table is just lazy design.
+pieniaurinko there were a couple, going by the imaginative names of Save and Rescue Rhys and Evangeline, regarding some random red lyrium stuff and corrupted templars. And really, if we'd gotten to see them, that'd have been enough. But nooooo, better cram the maps with junk missions...
Honestly, fuck the war table. So many interesting quests and scenarios, Rhys and Evangeline, Sebastian's assault on Kirkwall, Clan Lavellan's destruction, and rather than go through these interesting quests, you just send your advisors to do it for you and get a wall of text with some schematics or gold as a reward. Inquisition had some pretty annoying flaws but jesus fuck, the war table is by far the worst thing about the game.
Poor Wynne, that's awful. It'd be one thing if she gave the child up for adoption but she didn't even have a choice. How awful, to just forcefully take a child away from its parents. Also goddammit this line of conversations has now got me wondering what kind of birth control and stuff they've got in Thedas. XD Like, are there birth control spells that prevent women from getting pregnant? But only a mage could use that I suppose. Potions maybe? Thedas seems to be set in a sort of medieval high fantasy so I doubt they have condoms... Or, at least, I don't think...?
This comment is a year old and I am sincerely sorry for replying to it, but for anybody closer to now that may see this I still want to answer. Magic would certainly be helpful but it should be known that contraception that has existed for a long, long time. Aristotle wrote that to avoid pregnancy, the womb must avoid sperm; and so people went about methods of this. Of course, nothing was as, err, *efficient* as what we have nowadays but it was still something. Magic barriers and the likes exist in DA so… A Dragon Age Wynne video is probably the last place I thought I’d comment on the history of contraception but hey… sure…
She did have a choice though. It's implied the father was Gregoir and that he would have left the Order to be with Wynne and their son, but Wynne made the choice of giving up the child without even telling him. He even told her in a letter " Don't pretend this was the only way. You took the easy path, to keep your status and position. I would have found a different way"
Spoilers! Rhys never died - Cole was probably referring to Rhys' girlfriend, the templar Evangeline, who died, and then was brought back to life by Wynne's spirit. In the novel "Asunder" Wynne met her son and introduced herself to him as his mother.
Well think about it what could one in that situation I mean your lock in tower for god knows how long your constantly reminded that leaving said tower (unless a situation similar to a grey warden happens) basically means it's your death not mention in a country where magic is looked at in a negative light where would she go how far could she possibly get without help of some kind templars would constantly hunt her down too so really I can't blame her if doesn't rebel
In the deeper lore, she's an Aequitarian (a political group within mage circles) and they believe that while it's good to follow some Chantry laws, their goal must be to practice magic for the benefit of all regardless of what the Chantry says. So we could reason that Wynne doesn't COMPLETELY support the Chantry. She seems like one of those "Andraste is good, the Chantry is...eh" type of people.
Wait is that banter actually in Origins? Ive never gotten that except for the first one about Alistair finding her grandmotherly. I always thought they hadn't invented Rhys yet for Origins since her personal quest is about an apprentice she failed and you'd think if they had already given her a son then it would be about finding HIM
You get it definitely in Origins unmodded. You just have to trigger it in certain areas and have the certain characters line up. A good place to trigger is the bridge in the Orzammar common area that leads to the proving grounds. It triggers near the middle of the bridge. Then you can save and load afterwards to get it to trigger again. Alternatively, you can just mod the game to get these conversations to pop up more frequently.
This proves to me that the warden cannot be a mage. When he said that she is the first mage he ever liked. He would say this whether you are one let alone your relationship with him.
to be fair, he has liked other mages. idk how he would never, especially since he hated being a templar because of how mages were treated. sure, you don't have to like people in order to be for their human rights, but the first mage? ever?
Can someone please tell me what modes are these ? NPCs talking each other in a cutscene-like place, graphics are far more better, chars appearance different...
She didn't Even Speak To Warden About Her Son ! Who Has Actually Helped Her To Finish Personal Quest about Her Missing Apprentice To Put Her Mind At Ease ! But Spills Out Her Scerets To Alistair Who Did Absolutely Nothing!! .Seems Wyne Has Secret Crush Or affection Towards Alistar.
I mean, Alistair is quite naive and innocent when he's caste out into the world once all Grey Wardens but the HoF die. I think Wynne saw that he wasn't as competent as the Warden and took more of an maternal bond with Alistair whereas she was more of an advisor to the Warden. She probably ended up wanting (as she explains) for her son to be like Alistair, and that is a high compliment to pay. You can tell, with the dialogue interactions, Wynne is less concerned with forming a bond with the Warden and more focused on helping them achieve their goal while comforting them in a small way if they are burdened by the responsibility of it all (Alistair never makes a decision on anything, he only agrees or disagrees). Hell, even if you do complete her personal quest if you insist she takes longer with the elven student she says something like "I've wasted enough time already". I wouldn't take it personally, she probably just sees the two wardens require different methods of counsel and confidence management.
@@fawnieee Also, to add onto that, she said herself that it has been a very long time ago, when Alistair asks her about family she doesnt say anything, its a banter after that, i dont think its something personal that she'd be having against you, its just that its nothing she wants to bring up over and over again, so she only tells it Alistair when he tells her that he likes her, (which as a mage is very rare, templars dont exactly like mages). Just like Alistair sees Wynne as a Grandma, she sees him like son or grandson.
how are mages a race 😭😭 don't ever call alistair "the harrowing was dehumanizing and i hate the templar order" theirin "racist" against mages again when cullen "slaughter all the mages and don't pick mages for the inquisition" rutherford is right there
@@femalegays Given that magic ability is an inborn ability that is inherent, one could very justifiably consider mages to be a race, even if humans, elves and Qunari can be mages.
It is. Very much the point. Obviously, there is no malice in Alistair’s words…he even said he’s being honest. It is VERY likely any time he’s spoken with mages; it had been quite strained. It likely went both ways…Alistair was a Templar; and thus, any interactions with mages was probably very tense. Wynn is not only graceful; she is beyond any anxiety towards templars at this point in her life…the two of them can enjoy conversations with no qualms at all.
![Party banter: Wynne & Loghain [modded] | Dragon Age: Origins](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_xRvsQFf7cM/mqdefault.jpg)
![Party banter: Wynne & Loghain [modded] | Dragon Age: Origins](/img/tr.png)
Wynne was definitely one of the best characters from Origins, then again all the party members in Origins were awesome 😅
Hash Ash I never gave her a chance cuz Morrigan Sten and shale
Hash Ash I’ve never been a fan of Sten, he has some moments sure, but meh, and Wynne is all right, but she can be kind of nosy and annoying sometimes, and she leaves you if you defile the Urn of Sacred Ashes, she’s just kind of petty, but I do like her overall, Alistair, Morrigan, Leliana, Zevran, and Shale are the best though...
She was my absolute BFF in my first playthrough. She and Leliana were the ones to rescue me in the prison quest :)
None of the other games had the character's like Origins.
Now it makes much more sense why Wynne likes to troll Alistair and make him blush after Alistair falls in love with the Warden. Wynne sees Alistair as a young man similar of her son's age and is imagining her own son also pursuing his love now.
not me crying at 5pm because of this comment
After reading Asunder, meeting Cole in Inquisition, and re-watching this banter I kind of still want to meet Rhys. Maybe we'll see his future in DA4, I'm curious about his relationship w/Evangeline; especially after the ending of the book.
The closing we got to see Rhys was art that was made. If I remember correctly it was for the multiplayer that inquisition had.
Wynne was one of the best characters, and one of the most well-written. It's saddening what happened to her, but in the end, she died as a hero, for Rhys and Evangeline. I hope that in a future game, she will be mentioned. Maybe have either Rhys and Evangeline be in the next?
Don't patronize me for hoping. You have to at least have a little positivity about anything, right?
I agree and share the same hope, but I think they wrapped up the Rhys and Evangeline storyline with that abysmal War Table in Inquisition, among many others. But hey, at least we got to shepherd an auroch through the entire hinterlands, right? That ought to be on the same level as far as storytelling and emotional impact goes.
The War Table is just lazy design.
Which War table mission was that? I must've missed it... :o
+pieniaurinko there were a couple, going by the imaginative names of Save and Rescue Rhys and Evangeline, regarding some random red lyrium stuff and corrupted templars. And really, if we'd gotten to see them, that'd have been enough. But nooooo, better cram the maps with junk missions...
Wow, would've never guessed there was a way to make them so unremarkable I didn't even remeber them...
Anyway, thanks.
Honestly, fuck the war table. So many interesting quests and scenarios, Rhys and Evangeline, Sebastian's assault on Kirkwall, Clan Lavellan's destruction, and rather than go through these interesting quests, you just send your advisors to do it for you and get a wall of text with some schematics or gold as a reward. Inquisition had some pretty annoying flaws but jesus fuck, the war table is by far the worst thing about the game.
Dang you have some nice mods. Your DAO looks clear and crisp and Alistair's outfit is awesome.
"All the time." Oof, my heart. Poor Wynne :(
Poor Wynne, that's awful. It'd be one thing if she gave the child up for adoption but she didn't even have a choice. How awful, to just forcefully take a child away from its parents. Also goddammit this line of conversations has now got me wondering what kind of birth control and stuff they've got in Thedas. XD Like, are there birth control spells that prevent women from getting pregnant? But only a mage could use that I suppose. Potions maybe? Thedas seems to be set in a sort of medieval high fantasy so I doubt they have condoms... Or, at least, I don't think...?
This comment is a year old and I am sincerely sorry for replying to it, but for anybody closer to now that may see this I still want to answer. Magic would certainly be helpful but it should be known that contraception that has existed for a long, long time. Aristotle wrote that to avoid pregnancy, the womb must avoid sperm; and so people went about methods of this. Of course, nothing was as, err, *efficient* as what we have nowadays but it was still something.
Magic barriers and the likes exist in DA so…
A Dragon Age Wynne video is probably the last place I thought I’d comment on the history of contraception but hey… sure…
They used to make condoms with animals bladder. I don't know if it was common, but it existed at least since the XV / XVI centuries.
@@WiIdRhubarb Really? That's fascinating lol, the more you know!
She did have a choice though.
It's implied the father was Gregoir and that he would have left the Order to be with Wynne and their son, but Wynne made the choice of giving up the child without even telling him. He even told her in a letter " Don't pretend this was the only way. You took the easy path, to keep your status and position. I would have found a different way"
0:59 Me as a Warden mage with max affinity with Alistar "What the hell man"?
Wynne looks very young in here
This is why I LOATHE the idea of anyone other than Leliana as Divine.
Ditto
It makes me sad that we will probably never experience characters this deep from BioWare again...sigh.
semtex86 What else was said that Rhys died (mentioned from Cole's war table quest) probably without her knowing. I wonder if Wynne knew his name.
Spoilers!
Rhys never died - Cole was probably referring to Rhys' girlfriend, the templar Evangeline, who died, and then was brought back to life by Wynne's spirit. In the novel "Asunder" Wynne met her son and introduced herself to him as his mother.
The Inquisition characters were incredibly well written.
Inquisition's companions weren't exactly the most likeable cast, but they definitely had plenty of depth.
+SadTreeButler
ony dislikable ones were Sera the SJW and Vivienne, the Hilary Clinton of Thedas
Wynne, ma'am, your child was taken from you minutes after you gave birth and that didn't radicalize you against the chantry at all? Seriously?
Well think about it what could one in that situation I mean your lock in tower for god knows how long your constantly reminded that leaving said tower (unless a situation similar to a grey warden happens) basically means it's your death not mention in a country where magic is looked at in a negative light where would she go how far could she possibly get without help of some kind templars would constantly hunt her down too so really I can't blame her if doesn't rebel
she did. clearly it didn't work out
In the deeper lore, she's an Aequitarian (a political group within mage circles) and they believe that while it's good to follow some Chantry laws, their goal must be to practice magic for the benefit of all regardless of what the Chantry says. So we could reason that Wynne doesn't COMPLETELY support the Chantry. She seems like one of those "Andraste is good, the Chantry is...eh" type of people.
When you become a parent this just hits you in a way like it couldn't have before having kids. 8_8
Wait is that banter actually in Origins? Ive never gotten that except for the first one about Alistair finding her grandmotherly. I always thought they hadn't invented Rhys yet for Origins since her personal quest is about an apprentice she failed and you'd think if they had already given her a son then it would be about finding HIM
You get it definitely in Origins unmodded. You just have to trigger it in certain areas and have the certain characters line up. A good place to trigger is the bridge in the Orzammar common area that leads to the proving grounds. It triggers near the middle of the bridge. Then you can save and load afterwards to get it to trigger again.
Alternatively, you can just mod the game to get these conversations to pop up more frequently.
Rhys is my real name and the name of my grey warden, seein this video was a trip at first.
Damn they put you in the game!!
That last conversation hinted at blood magic.
And then we learn that her son, Rhys, was friends with Cole in ‘Inquisition’ and he also has a Templar companion.
0:25 *cut to Zevran and my warden*
0:53
Surana/Amell: wtf, bro?
Can anyone tell me what is the name of that cutscene banter MOD, please?
So how many people remembered this and had an attitude of f*** the circle for the following games?
Mod list please! :)
This proves to me that the warden cannot be a mage. When he said that she is the first mage he ever liked. He would say this whether you are one let alone your relationship with him.
to be fair, he has liked other mages. idk how he would never, especially since he hated being a templar because of how mages were treated. sure, you don't have to like people in order to be for their human rights, but the first mage? ever?
I like to do, warrior HOF, Mage Hawke, and Rogue inquisitor, diversity in heroes
What mod is that for Wynne?
That appearance mod is actually good. Her base form was always meh.
Please Dana say something about my request!
What mod is this? When my characters talked it was never framed like this
When was that part of game and where?
Please tell me what mods did you used for Wynne?
Can someone please tell me what modes are these ? NPCs talking each other in a cutscene-like place, graphics are far more better, chars appearance different...
She didn't Even Speak To Warden About Her Son ! Who Has Actually Helped Her To Finish Personal Quest about Her Missing Apprentice To Put Her Mind At Ease ! But Spills Out Her Scerets To Alistair Who Did Absolutely Nothing!! .Seems Wyne Has Secret Crush Or affection Towards Alistar.
I mean, Alistair is quite naive and innocent when he's caste out into the world once all Grey Wardens but the HoF die. I think Wynne saw that he wasn't as competent as the Warden and took more of an maternal bond with Alistair whereas she was more of an advisor to the Warden. She probably ended up wanting (as she explains) for her son to be like Alistair, and that is a high compliment to pay. You can tell, with the dialogue interactions, Wynne is less concerned with forming a bond with the Warden and more focused on helping them achieve their goal while comforting them in a small way if they are burdened by the responsibility of it all (Alistair never makes a decision on anything, he only agrees or disagrees). Hell, even if you do complete her personal quest if you insist she takes longer with the elven student she says something like "I've wasted enough time already".
I wouldn't take it personally, she probably just sees the two wardens require different methods of counsel and confidence management.
@@fawnieee Also, to add onto that, she said herself that it has been a very long time ago, when Alistair asks her about family she doesnt say anything, its a banter after that, i dont think its something personal that she'd be having against you, its just that its nothing she wants to bring up over and over again, so she only tells it Alistair when he tells her that he likes her, (which as a mage is very rare, templars dont exactly like mages).
Just like Alistair sees Wynne as a Grandma, she sees him like son or grandson.
wait, how the fuck you control Alistair and talk to Wynne> and trigger the scene Wynne actually talk to Alistair? not a warden?
Me: *About to declare a crusade that will make the eastern front of our world war 2 look like a picnic against the chantry*
Just one of the many examples as to why the Chantry and the Templars suck. "You're the first mage I ever liked." That's fucking racist, Alistair.
how are mages a race 😭😭 don't ever call alistair "the harrowing was dehumanizing and i hate the templar order" theirin "racist" against mages again when cullen "slaughter all the mages and don't pick mages for the inquisition" rutherford is right there
@@femalegays Given that magic ability is an inborn ability that is inherent, one could very justifiably consider mages to be a race, even if humans, elves and Qunari can be mages.
It is.
Very much the point.
Obviously, there is no malice in Alistair’s words…he even said he’s being honest. It is VERY likely any time he’s spoken with mages; it had been quite strained.
It likely went both ways…Alistair was a Templar; and thus, any interactions with mages was probably very tense.
Wynn is not only graceful; she is beyond any anxiety towards templars at this point in her life…the two of them can enjoy conversations with no qualms at all.
Bet you that Anders is Wynnes son
No, Rhys is Wynne's son.
Alistair’s armor mod name or riot.
It's the Orlesian Noble Hunting Armor from DA2 from a mod called Loincloth Fashion for DAO. You can find it on the Dragon Age Nexus.