Dragon Age: Inquisition- Meeting Grey Warden Alistair (Romanced Hero of Ferelden)
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- Опубліковано 10 гру 2014
- so apparently it's entirely possible to be deathly jealous of yourself because that's how I felt when Alistair talked about his love for the hero of ferelden A.K.A MY OWN CHARACTER
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Blackwall: Duncan. Oh. Y-Yeah. YEAH. Duncan, man. Right?
Inquisitor:.....BW. You okay, man?
Blackwall: YEAH OF COURSE. DUNCAN. RIGHT. AHA. AHAHA. HA.
Alistair: Wow....he's kinda bananas, huh?
oh my dear Alistair what they've done to you? wtf this terrible graphic
What I ı ı don t understand
XD
Got him down to a T, in response.
DA:O, Alister
DA:I, Colin, then next playthrough, Solas, but had Affair with Iron bull.
I either guessed your playthrough accurately or I am far off.
Your inquisitor is Elf Krem
The Inquisitor sounds like a desperate fan eager to know the conclusion to the stories she heard about. It's hilarious, especially considering how much Hawke and Alistair indulges her.
Inquisitor: hello yes please tell me all the details to your personal life
"*Poke, poke, poke* Tell me everything about your life, Alistair."
all npc in rpg game in a nutshell
So a Mary Sue? In fact..isn't THAT what the inquisitor is?
well that sounds awfully alot like the adoring fan from oblivion
The Inquisitor is all of us. XD
Alistair: "When I'm done here, we'll be together again. Forever this time."
I'm literally crying again 😭😭😭
- breaks 4th wall -
"I need to change my name."
Just hearing alistair talk fondly about our warden makes me fangirl a bit, I really would've liked to actually see them together tho☹😭
I feel like Alistair should be carrying around Duncan's shield is that just me?
Duncan had no shield , just a sword and dagger
@@corypher Yes he did. Go replay DAO, grab the grey warden documents in the arl of Denerim's estate, then mention them to Riordan when you meet him. Afterwards, ask him about it at the Arl of Redcliffe's estate and start looting the warehouse.
Swami Mami1014 I’m sure since it’s the only thing he has left of Duncan’s he wouldn’t want to risk damaging it
@@capismycopilot9393 as someone who knows almost nothing about dragon age I have to agree. Alistair greatly respected Duncan so the shield is probably somewhere safe as a memorial to him.
It would be cool. But its optional that you never find it or sell it. Unless they added it to da keep, it couldn't really be included
can i just say that alistair and cullen aged like fine wine
They were always lovely. Young or mature.
They’re only 30 years old lol
what 7 yrs of graphics development does to a man
Cullen went from ramen noodle hair to fine wine very proud of his development 😭😂
You're speaking of them as if they're in their 60s of smth.
Time to play origins and romance Alistair again. As much as I'd like to have a playthrough with Zevran as a romance, I cannot stay away from Alistair, he's too cute.
Idrisa Lavellan You can have both you know
Lol to me it's just the opposite xD can't sway away from zev
And when he gives you the rose oh man
Same. He's so adorable
It is physically impossible for me to do other character romances when all i want is Alistair, same for inquisition ive been told I need to do a solas romance but I cannot stay away from Cullen 😭Their romance stories are top tier for me, i love them too much
oh god alistair, he is perfect his voice makes me want to play it again
Whoever picked the voice actors for Alistair and Cullen needs to be given a medal. They’re freaking fantastic. And then you have Blackwall with his growl and it’s just like “You’re fantastic. You really are😭”
Alistair - Steve Valentine
Cullen - Greg Ellis
1:12
I bet he chocked at that, he probably wanted to say he responded only to Warden Commander (Female Last Name)
I can FEEL Blackwalls sputtering
Im so glad Steve Valentine came back to voice Alistair. Hearing his distinctive voice again was such a feels trip
Wouldn't it be badass, if in da 4, you could have a squad made up of the new guy, the warden, hawke, and the inquisitor. Most OP group of badasses in history. And they just waltzed up to whoever was the main bad guy and totally bulldozed his punk ass.
+FreeTheSheep N7 the main baddy would have be impressively powerful
+Hawkeye Gough Maybe it could be a moat! Of sharks! On fire! (Only some will understand)
+FreeTheSheep N7 4 men in one mission? 2/3 elves 1/2 human ehh. I'm okay with just Morrigan and Allistair +1 for one last ride :(
That would be so cool, but not sure how it'd for for people who's warden and Hawke were killed.
FreeTheSheep N7 Well, the inquisitor no longer has his left arm, and I believe Solas would still faceroll the 4 of them anyway.
Is it just me or was Alistair much cuter in Dragon Age Origins?
Parnaz Soltani You should see him in DA2, he's a disaster in that game.
At least in Inquisition there's an excuse. It's been 10 years after all. Although, when we see him in DA2 it's been almost 9 years since he shows up by the end of the game.
Nothing fucks you harder than time. And Blight. And hordes of darkspawns...
Parnaz Soltani yeah i think the same... the years has punch him more than loghain
MUCH
steve valentine's voice is so perfect for him honestly I LOVE ALISTAIR SO MUCH
swooping is bad
witch-thief!
She’ll turn us into frogs, she will.
Frog time
I almost want to make fun of this comment but... make fun of you dear lady? Perish the thought! Well.. Tell me. Have youuuu ever licked a lampost in winter?
NICE COVER BLACKWALL!!!
Alistar has been attractive throughout every single game of Dragon Age. Seriously.
Are you on crack
if u exiled alistair you can find him in the tavern looking like a sad sad pug
The OG Cullen.
Alistair has been made attractive throughout every single game of Dragon Age.
There, I fixed your comment. Why people can't see wifus and husbandos in games will always be beyond me.
Maybe I'm just biased because I love his character so much, but I still think he's good looking in Inquisition, even though he looks different. He's kinda got like a DILF thing going here.
I actually think he's hotter in Inquisition than he was in Origins lol
He's got that silver fox thing going on without the silver tbh
I dislike it
I do think he looks good, but IMO he looks older than he should be. It's been 10 years since Origins so he should be, what, in his early thirties? He looks like he could be 40 here (granted, he'd probably have to be dying his hair). Then again, I'm sure being a Gray Warden would age a person prematurely, from the stress alone if not the dark spawn taint.
I AM LITERALLY GOING CRAZY WATCHING HERE TALK ABOUT THE LOVE OF HIS LIFE AND I SHOULDN'T EVEN BE WATCHING THIS VIDEO I HAVEN'T YET STARTED INQUISITION
Me too!!! ❤️❤️
Same, Im not that far yet 😔✌️
Hehe, that's exactly what I'm doing.
Me too, I literally spoiled the whole story of Inquisition for myself by watching so many videos lol
Kinda pisses me off that they didn't use this for hints that Blackwall might not be on the up and up.
Yeah but there aer certain hints else wher like if you bring him along to Valammar in Varric's other ques ts ot ospeak when you ask him how many darkspawn there weer and he couldn't gibve a clear answer if he was a real warden he would have known as wardens can sense darkspawn it's how they fight them.
He never uses we when speaking about the grey wardens and doesn't know much. Lots of subtle hints.
Damn I feel so bad for him. He is bitter just like Hawk but more sad bitterness then anger. I really hope that in the next game the HOF will find a cure to the calling. The Grey wardens saved Thedas 5 times already and imo they don't deserve this at all.
Ha man somebody in Bioware fucking hates the warden's guts, they get so much bullshit thrown at them constantly
i dont think we're going to get any conclusion since bioware said hof wont be in any future games at all
@@verminscum but the fans want it so much. Maybe they overthink their desicion
@@lisdraconis2212 hopefully, itd be nice to get at least an answer on if the hof finds a cure or not but we'll see
@@swarmofhungrydeathclaws no, outside the HoF, the Grey Wardens have always been shady
Wow, I'm glad I had Alistair as King and Stroud as my Warden ally or else I would have had to sacrifice Hawke or Alistair in the Fade!!
Default world state?
@@spiderz5145 Yes, by default Alistair became king. I replayed Origins and I listened to Alistair, he really didn't want to become king. So in this playthrough, he will be a warden. And I will sacrifice Hawke without a 2nd thought. The first time I sacrificed Stroud.
@@akinatsukana ah, now that I have played more I have this knowledge already, but I like to sacrifice Hawke too even though it hurts, my boy Alistair isn’t meant to die there lol.
@@akinatsukana sacrificing Hawke is the intended choice I think. Music cues and varric's reaction just doesn't make sense if its not Hawke.
@@akinatsukana if you harden alistair in origins he actually does want to be king, so i always do that.
I kinda hoped instead of any warden, I wished to be "MY WARDEN" to be the one waiting there. So I could get my dreams come true.
The Hero of Ferelden(you), The Champion of Kirkwall(you) and the Herald of Andraste(you).. all in one room..
pretty awkward might I say.
why does alistair greet blackwall as a warden? wardens can sense each other? he'd immediately know he was a fraud
also, blackwall trying to pretend he knows wtf is going on is definitely amusing
I was wondering about this too. Grey wardens can sense each other then why couldn't Alistair notice Blackwall was not one of them?
Because of the calling? Alistair says the calling is too much disturbing. That must've lowered his senses. ?
@@Ejowolfhqlqhv That could work, but I think it's more likely that bioware just forgot that detail, seems like a bit of a habit with them
I had to play this way at least once, and once I saw it I had to play a couple of times. He is so in love with the Hero, it's so very very sweet and adorable. But then, I had to go back and change my world state again once I realized the epilogue states that once he reports to Weisshaupt he disappears and since I have no idea if he disappears there or goes off to be with my Warden I wasn't taking any chances. Those Anderfel Wardens are up to something. They are never seen, never heard from and those that have visited refuse to talk about them. Something isn't right about them.
And should they make cameo's in 4 provided they don't disappear into the Anderfels I needed it to be made right lol.
Or maybe he made his report and then disappear to join his love as he said? xD
Ma Eyoha Let us hope so, because if not I may have to picket the DA/Bioware Studio, Fanfic isn't going to cut it. hahaha
Or i read something weird about Blackwall and Weisshaupt if you decide to send him to the warden after his trial, I dunno how to take that, but something is definitely fishy there! Hope we'll get some more informations in the next game!
AZnyway, I'll never put Alistair king and always keep him as a warden, and save him over hawk in the process! Everyone love too much Alistair to kill him like that!! D:
Ma Eyoha Oh with Alistair as a Warden Hawk always dies. I am not that attached to the DA2 characters with the exception of Varric and in the end he's better off because he learns and grows from Hawks death. DA2 just didn't have the same feel. It was sort of like a mini DA with Mini Romances lol
I have the exact same feel as you here about DA2, I even forced hawk to have a romance with Fenrys the whiny just to not have any regret during that choice haha! xD
Anyway even if you save Hawk, she still go to Weisshaupt so nothing change they both disappear. But you might have a slight chance to see them alive in dragon age 4! ^^
I really hope Alistair is okay, really really!
RIGHT IN THE FEELS!
Thank god I chose Alistair to stay as a Warden with my hero. I just recently played DA series and I was like "why I didn't play this before? How could I not know of this masterpiece?" (even though DA2 is a little bit disappointing).
And this just reminded me of the horrible choice that I had to do to save my hero and Alistair's life after killing that stupid archdemon. Yes, *Morrigan*. I actually liked her in the first place when everyone dislikes her. She was like a best friend, but after she told me about that damned dark ritual of Flemeth... *I rage quitted*. The thing is, I worked my ass up to build romance with this Dorkknight but then that happens. I feel like Flemeth know about this, and that's why she wants Morrigan to join my squad. Idk tho. It's very heartbreaking, because even Alistair himself asking the hero if she is sure she wanted this to happen. It's like, Alistair really, really, really love the Hero. Plus I am myself in love with this Dorky Royal Bastard, not only because his looks and his dorkiness, but THE VOICE, *STEVE VALENTINE IS PURE GOLD*. So it really breaks my heart to let that happen, but had to do it in order to create a whole big story for my warden and Alistair.
what happened to his face between origins and inquisition. im actually in tears
Nick Inquisition takes place 10 yrs. After Origins
11: 11 Right. But he doesn’t look as if he’s simply aged. He looks like the old Alistair got plastic surgery on his face or something.
Wow I made Alistair king so he only shows up if you choose the mages I didn't even know this was in the game wow
"I need to change my name" made me squee like a school girl!! he seems more eloquent now....
0:25 what a sassy entrance Alistair
Gosh it was so good to see that adorkable goofball again !
that background sound just sounded like when your toilet has a problem with the flushing
Damn it... why must this be the path that makes you happiest Alistair?!?! 😭😭😭
Why you making me hurt Hawke and Fenris you kind and sexy as$!!!~ 😭😭😭
i dont consider this the path hes happiest at all lmao, he seems bitter and tired here. if you harden him in origins he actually wants to be king, and in 2 he seems happy being king especially with a romanced warden. no inquisition cameo but i always pick that because he seems the happiest there and you dont have to choose between him or hawke dying.
@@verminscum Same. But, as far as the origins Alistair is concern, he mentions this much. That he much rather remain a warden. In this aspect however, knowing what we know of future events and possibilities and how his appreciation for any of his possible roles unfolds, that we can truly play god here… he may not know it back in origins…. But, I agree, HE WILL BE HAPPIER, or more fulfilled as a King.
Edit: plus again, I don’t want to have to choose between either lmao 🤣 so he stuck there regardless, I’m just happy that long term, he IS* happier there X)
It's been years and I still watch these videos time to time... Especially when I replay the games. Goddamnit I love Alistair...
i willingly and gladly killed off hawke...and then i talked to varric. ;_;
Poison Damage That's savage.
Why I'm glad Alistair is king in my play throughs and Stroud is my sacrificial lamb lol
Monster
The choice to pick Stroud/Alistair/Loghain or Hawke kicked me in the nuts. I picked Stroud to die in my first play through cuz I don't have an emotional attachment. Plus Carver/Bethany has no one left but Gamlen in Kirkwall as their family. Loghain cuz why the hell not? He was a traitor and a coward unworthy to be one of the Wardens. I never had Alistair be anything else but the King of Ferelden.
You didn't _kill_ Hawke. You left Hawke in the Fade. There's a difference. We don't see Hawke die, and frankly, if you're Hawke enough to defeat the Arishok and Meredith, that spider is a piece of cake.
Hawke and alistir being friends is making my inner fangirl scream
Uh huh... sure Blackwall
Wouldn't Alistair be able to tell Blackwall wasn't a warden? I thought they could sense the Blight in each other.
I was asking myself the same thing ..
they can sense the blight when it comes to darkspawn, idk about in each other though?
@@verminscum In DA2, if you take Anders and your sibling to the deep roads he tells you he can save them by sensing out the other grey wardens nearby.
@@puddin4884 oh yeah lmao, i guess they screwed up with this one then
The false Calling is probably blocking his ability to sense the Blight in others. In the Calling book, a Warden who is going through the (real) Calling couldn't sense darkspawn anymore. There's also a message a Warden leaves in DAI that says she's having a really hard time sensing the darkspawn over the false Calling.
What a MVP, an invested gamer and a passionate lawyer!
It's painful since the fact he's Hawke's Warden contact means either Hawke or him will have to die in the Fade. I'm glad I had Loghain here.
Aska2468 if loghain was there, then alistar is either excecuted or a drunk
Sam Niloy Nope. I had Loghain as Hawke's Warden contact and Alistair as king. If Loghain is spared and Alistair is hardened then Alistair is pissed and leaves the party but he agrees to become king.
not necessarily he can be made King but Loghain is dead in my current playthrough as Alistair killed him but my Warden and Alistair are King and Queen of Ferelden in my current playthrough. Just playing through the extra DFLC before progressing onto DA2 and DAI again.
@@allahuakbar3639 if you harden Allistsar he becomes a successful King after you recruit Loghan.
How do you do that anyway? Do you have to import a save, it seems like the Keep doesn't allow you to keep Logain alive.
Aww..That feelings.
If this is the case, you shouldn't really wish for this cameo. He has better futures.
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Sekh moriggan best
him : it killed her
text: it killed us
i felt that
I need to go play origins and romance him again cause this gave me nostalgia
Alistair's armor: Rolls Royce
Alistair's shield: Walmart shopping cart
imagine having to choose between sacrificing hawke and alistair??? so glad i made him king lmfao
Is it just me or does he sound really bitter about being a Warden and everything going on. Like I helped end the blight and now frigging darkspawn..come on!
I definitely thought he sounded bitter! Bitter, tired, and worn out. Probably also struggling with being away from his beloved warden for prolonged periods of time. That latter part is my headcanon, though ;)
@@lostbeyondpluto yeah, that could be it, personally I always romanced Zev.
@@lostbeyondpluto so where is the warden during all of this? Surely they could’ve wrote to each other
@@AstarionWifey they're off finding a way to cure wardens of the calling, from what I remember.
Man I wish I could play all these games one after the other so I can build a story up with my decisions I've always had to play it on different consoles and without DLCs I didn't know I was missing on so much
If you have an xbox and have gamepass the base games are free. But you have to buy the DLCs. I started inquisition and realized I needed to play the first 2. I finished origins and now I'm playing DA2.
The model animations in cutscenes looks so restrained that makes it a little hard to get suck into the moment. It’s easier when their talking during game play and you just have the voice acting to go off for emotion.
I still believe the dogs raised him to be king
Petition for next DA game you get a chance to make your crew with Hawkes, the hero of Ferledan and the Inquisitor for a massive big bad
hes cute in both this and oriigns
I just wish we had part 2 of either the Warden or Hawke. They were more relatable than the Inquisitor even though the game is great :/
what was missing was some background story for the inquisitor. it would have been nice to see their lives before the sudden change.
For me I am far more bonded to my inquisitor than my warden.
Michelle Careaga I agree. with the Warden and then Hawke we saw them having a life before and how it was taken from them. the Inquisitor is too much of a blank slate.
+Rebel Rose i love my inquisitor but i agree, they should have let us see his/her past
Lol warden dont even talk
Your Inquisitor looks like Krem’s long lost elven brother from another mother.
what sparkling outfits....
Omg I love this game
Love that a youtuber I follow plays same game as me and loves Alistair too though I liked Zev slot also
Wait so I can have Alistair be in Inquisition without being king?
Time to play DA:O again
Kind of. He gets an appearance and war table mission if you side with the mages.
Alistair ♡♡♡
nooo...anders!someone save him *cries*
I got a question how do you get the quest on d:o to end the curse because at the end of da:o when the warden live I only get I stay or I go or travel but not go look for the curse
That doesnt happens in origins. It happens in witch hunt, and it is not until inquisition that you actually learn that morrigan gives you a lead to cure the calling.
? thats not a thing, thats just something thats mentioned in inquisiton
"If nothing else, I'd like to warn her about Corypheus." 😭😭😭😭
It's the spiderman meme all over again
what? mine is different, i never met alistair, i get the one with the crazy mustache...
Inner Machinations that means your world state isn't set up for Alistair to be alive/still a warden and not king/etc :)
that would be Stroud I tend to have him in most of my playthrough's as well although I've played all 3 warden options.
sjsharp2007 and
That sad moment when you don't get alistair as warden :(((
Wow didnt think this was possible
when i played this part of the game it was someone completely different
BLACKWALL: I DO NOT FEAR THE CALLING.... hEHE
If only you can determine world pre state in inquisition through the game intro instead of a website on your own terms. Hopefully, next game
I'm currently doing a replay of DA:O, and I have to say, this doesn't seem like the same Alistair. Still, interesting to see what they did with the character, I could never get into Inquisition.
I have to say, he did seem like a very different Alistair to me too, and I remember a lot of the community saying he's just older and more weary/hardened from life as a Grey Warden. Made sense to me, but he did seem to be very exhausted and fed up--none of that Alistair enthusiasm we all fell in love with in Origins.
Shit I've been doing this wrong brb starting my millionth playthrough of origins
Oh dear goddess, Alistair looks like Rocco Siffredi !
*lol* Like the uploader, I had weird self-jealousy with Alistair and my Warden/Queen, so I rolled a single Grey Warden Alistair next time. It's positively BLISTERING how sexily bitter and lonely he is when Dude!Cousland marries Anora and made douchebag choices, and in that case he's possibly still a virgin, and then of course he can potentially not survive DAI. I was like, "OH DEAR GOD JUST *TAKE MY DWARF*, ALISTAIR! TAKE HER!!!!" I feel like he's even sexier in this game than he ever was before. If only he'd been an option... Blackwall and Bull would've stood no chance whatsoever.
Praise the Sun Don't be sexist
If it had been an option to keep Blackwall
or Alistair as the Grey Warden informant you bet your lamppost in winter I would’ve kicked Blackwall out so fast!
I like that they changed his ears to be more elvish
Would be nice if I could meet my own DA:O character
❤️😔
Next time I play DA:O, I have to put Logain in this spot with Alistair and Anora as monarchs, sacrifice Logain in the fade, because I don't want my Hawke to die and make Varric sad. Damn you, Bioware, for making players have to choose between Alistair and Hawke. That's just cruel!
just sacrifice stroud lol
i cant pick between hawke and alistair, but i hate leaving logain alive since it ruins your friendship with alistiar
so stroud is an easy compromise
dammit Alistair!!
Im sorry but how do u get alistair instead of Stoud here? Is it even possible without mods or passing by Dragon age keep?
you only get alistair if you didn't make him king, didn't recruit loghain as a grey warden and didn't sacrifice alistair at the final battle with the archdemon. definitely no need to mod anything. and yes, these prerequisites can be done in the dragon age keep if you didn't play origins. hope this helps!
oh my goodness.... blackwall is so thick in his default armor.. the armor you have him in makes him look like a twig in comparison! 😆
WHY ISN'T THERE A SPINOFF OF THESE TWO OMG
Hear the music? Wardens are frakking toasters!
Wait,,, Lost Beyond Pluto who posts M&H videos played Dragon Age?!?! Looking for videos of my favorite romance in DA and here is LBP!!
how do you get Alistair to remain in the grey wardens after the landsmeet? I assume he must be unhardened, so he doesn't want to be king and you kill Loghain and not him. something like that?
I don't see any vallaslin. Someone was charmed by the egg
Seriously if we don't get a cameo of our wardens in DA4 I'll be pissed xD not really but still
What armor is your inquisitor wearing?
how did i miss this? some other warden. not him??? what?
if you make alistair stay with the wardens in origins, stroud is replaced with alistair in inquisition. if you spared loghain and he lives, stroud is replaced with loghain. the default state where alistair is made king is where you get stroud in inquisition.
How do I get this world state? I mean what choices do I have to make? I always have Stroud
you just have to make sure that you didn't make Alistair king, replace him with Loghain or have him sacrifice himself to kill the Archdemon in Dragon Age: Origins. So he should be left alive and still a Grey Warden at the end of Origins for this to happen.
@@lostbeyondpluto ok. Thanks!
How do you get Alistair
Shouldn't Grey Wardens be able to sense each other since they have darkspawn in their veins? Like, how darkspawn sense them and them in return.
Yes, Wardens can sense each other. Wardens do it in the Calling book and Anders does in DA2 to find the Wardens in the deep roads if Bethany/Carver get tainted.
Uhg thank god I made Alistair king. This is a decision I could not make.
why do you get to meet the humours man of my dreams and the only man i see is super moustache bro? i'm much prefer him thank you very much
If Alistair was crowed king he naturally won't appear in this mission.
and you have to side with the mages
Tanko Ha that dosend matter the only thing you need is him survive origins and keeping him an warden
What is that armor
you know something occurs to me while watching this, how is it you get this much talk from Alistair here about the wardens and the hero of ferelden, but as King you can miss out on getting to see him entirely if you go for the templars to help with the breach. because if you don't go for the mages, that's the only time you get to see him as King, and it's a very short visit. another thing that bothers me is, Alistair might be a king but he's still a grey warden. so how he would not hear the calling, unless his duty as king keeps him further away from Coryphous. still he should be able to make another appearance to offer some advice, if he was a romance option for a female Warden, i feel that was a missed opportunity on Bioware to not include him a bit more in the story. hell even Hawke got more screen time in Inquistion, yet somehow Bioware felt the Hero of Ferelden didn't need to be in the game at all. this is why making Alistair king, you feel like nothing was really gained, because he doesn't have much of a role in the game. i wonder if it was Bioware or EA thought the only way for Alistair to have more of a role is to not make him king, but Origins told a different story. throughout dragon age origins, it seem to pretty obvious that the game was trying to tell the player that he should become a king, and there were plenty of signs that suggest that would be the best outcome for him. but in Inquistion, as king he's just somebody in the background. like after Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts, King Alistair should've been apart of whoever you decided to be Orleis next ruler. like why couldn't he come and meet them for some kind of peace greeting afterwards. or maybe Alistair makes an appearance in Skyhold, he asks to meet the Inquisitor about wanting to meet the Empress if you decided to support her, or go one of the other two ways. like why couldn't that have been something they could've included, instead you get a run in with Alistair which is a very short visit, and he wants to kick you out. but see nobody ever wants Alistair to be here, because then it makes it harder to choose between Alistair and Hawke on who gets left behind in the fade. this is why i can never spare Loghain in Origins, i did spare him twice in the past, but after replaying the series Loghain being here feels out of place. this is why Stroud makes the most the sense, Alistair should've had more of a role in the game as king. i can never leave Hawke behind in the fade, there alot of people's favorite, including mine. it's not because he or she is Varric friend, it's because of how much time we spent playing as them. the Hero of Ferelden only gets referenced here and there, it's like there forgotten. but that's what happens when a publisher like EA takes over for Bioware, because there all about making deadlines, they can care less how much of a game is finished.
I ended up with Loghain so i was tots fine with killing him in the fade
Loghain finally got the redemption he deserved.
Darth Portus Personally I let him take the blow on the archdemon. He gets to redeem himself from causing civil war in fereldan
“Right, Duncan, good man”
The only time I’ve ever hated Blackwall. (Because how dare he lie using Duncan’s name)