in my opinion caleb williams not being the consensus #1 pick is prospect fatigue. he's been the projected #1 overall pick for two years. i remember when people were trying to convince themselves that rg3 was a better prospect than andrew luck. the same happened when people started to think that zach wilson was close to trevor lawrence. there's no need to overthink it and luckily i don't believe that the bears front office will.
Thanks for the comment. Prospect fatigue can be a real thing. In just my opinion, I truly think Maye is an overall better prospect than Williams. I see Maye working through progressions at a higher percentage more than Williams. I also see a more accurate thrower. Outside of that, Williams has red flags as far as the extra non football side of things when Maye does not. It will be interesting how they both wind up in their careers, but too me. I think the bears are drafting another Justin Fields all over again with Caleb Williams
@@TheCoachPlays justin fields doesn't have the pocket presence that caleb williams has and holds onto the ball too long. williams also has that criticism but for entirely different reasons. with caleb, he holds onto the ball too long at times because he's looking for the big play. he's keeping his eyes downfield the whole time. whereas with fields, he holds onto the ball because he legitimately can't anticipate throwing windows and locks onto his reads. if you watch the games where their defense wasn't give up 40+ you saw him stand in the pocket, go through progressions, and make the right decisions. it was only when he felt that he had to be superman where you saw the "hero ball" mentality. the ability is there to do it and the bears have a great surrounding cast for him to succeed.
They won’t and drake maye is going to be a bad 2nd or 3rd pick. I’ve already said this, but I have Bo Nix ahead of him due to his processing speed and accuracy. I also think JJ McCarthy has a higher ceiling with his arm talent, ability to throw every ball and when tasked with throwing, almost always killed it and didn’t throw that many bad passes. More unproven, better guys around him but to see regression, and yes I know he lost weapons, but he advanced a year and regressed to a sub 3:1 TD:INT ratio which is not a top 5 pick in my opinion but let’s let the Washington club pick Zach Wilson the 2nd
Would you as the bears GM Trade 1, 9 and a future 1st for Justin Herbert? I don’t think I would as a bolts fan as Herbert with good coaching (see Shane Steichen rookie year and year 2 before Lombardi took away his ability to run) is a true top tier QB and already proven. Although, I feel like Caleb is a LOCK to be a top 5 QB and getting capital to grab Malik Nabers or Bryan Thomas Jr (my top 2 WR) would be a good way to free up cap and truly reset the franchise. Growing pains would be incurred, yes. But ultimately I think both teams would benefit down the road Thoughts?
Does he ever play from under center or is this something that will have to be taught from scratch in the nfl? Of the top 3 I think the best place for him is New England. They’ve already stated they want the QB they get to sit a year
So I have not noticed a lot of under Center for Drake Maye, but I can tell you this it’s more than Caleb Williams. Williams only snap under center was to run a sneak. It will definitely be learning curves for both QB’s but I do believe Maye has been under center more.
I think the conversation should be Jayden Daniel’s or Caleb Williams not Drake maye vs Williams Daniel’s is so much smoother in a proven LSU offense that translates to the NFL and is much more athletic I don’t get it
He is going to be the next one I break down. But just from my takeaways, I see more pros for Drake Maye at times than I do for Caleb Williams. But that is just me
Hes my QB 4 behind Williams, Daniel’s, Nix. Tied at fourth I have JJ and Maye. Give me JJ at barely 21 any day to be quite honest. Give me Caleb Williams over any other QB prospect in the past 5 years. The kid had one bad game and only threw one bad pick. The other 2 were a tipped ball and a safety accidentally out of position. I’ve never seen a QB go through reads as fast as Caleb Williams aside from burrow in the last decade. Add on his insane agility and backyard on the run ad-lib play and you have Mahomes 2.0 2nd we have Daniels who is a 6’3 slinger who runs likely a 4.4 or faster. His only issue is, like Lamar, he looks to run and escape the pocket before he needs to sometimes. He runs to run instead of using his natural speed to evade the rush and throw outside the box. Next up is Bo Nix. Cannon for an arm and can make all the throws and despite being 24, he has PLENTY of room to grow. He’ll go to Denver MARK MY WORDS. JJ McCarthy will go either 3 or 5 to the pats or the Vikings respectively. Maye will go to the commanders and fail miserably on a bad team and be the next 2 overall that didn’t even make it through his rookie contract before washing out (Sorry Zach Wilson the second)
You need to understand that he’s not good enough to be a starting QB in the NFL. He will, but he’s absolutely gonna be a bust. He’s not even close to as good as Caleb
I just don’t see what you see. I may be wrong, but I think a lot of people are missing the boat on Drake Maye. And I also believe Caleb Williams could be a major bust . Caleb Williams is not an anticipatory thrower. He waits for people to come open. Drake , is much more advanced as far as throwing people opened and anticipating windows.
Record is not always accurate representation of how someone can be as a pro QB. Jay cutler had a terrible record at Vanderbilt, and ended up the best QB in that draft and played 10 + years as a starting QB. There are plenty of more examples as well
@@TheCoachPlays unless he plays for Mike McDaniel, I don't see his game working in the NFL. He has never stood tall in a collapsing pocket to make a throw. He only plays from shotgun with a lot of time or he throws to his first option or he runs it. I don't see any command in the pocket, going to his 4th or 5th reads practically ever. Can he make a lot of tough throws? Yeah. But he's going to need to deal with a dirty pocket infinitely more than he ever did in college. He never tried to show he could do that on college. I don't see it suddenly developing now. Unless he goes to a team like NE that maybe will stuff him on the bench for a year or two, other high drafting teams will need him now.
@@derbagger22 I respectfully disagree. In the video shows him actually working from one side of the field, to the next side in read progressions. There is also a clip of him standing in the pocket and taking a blitz right to the chin while delivering a throw. So he shows that capability. He will have to grow from taking snaps under center, but most QB’s have to now. I don’t see him try to pull and run too quickly. I see him using his legs at the right time. He is not a finished product by far, but I see more quality traits than I do when I was Caleb Williams
@@TheCoachPlays I'm not saying he can't throw while under duress. He can certainly take it on the chin. But, can he move around in a collapsing pocket, avoiding multiple rushers while still scanning the field? I saw Zach Wilson do similar things to Maye. But he couldn't deal with a dirty pocket...
in my opinion caleb williams not being the consensus #1 pick is prospect fatigue. he's been the projected #1 overall pick for two years. i remember when people were trying to convince themselves that rg3 was a better prospect than andrew luck. the same happened when people started to think that zach wilson was close to trevor lawrence. there's no need to overthink it and luckily i don't believe that the bears front office will.
Thanks for the comment. Prospect fatigue can be a real thing. In just my opinion, I truly think Maye is an overall better prospect than Williams. I see Maye working through progressions at a higher percentage more than Williams. I also see a more accurate thrower.
Outside of that, Williams has red flags as far as the extra non football side of things when Maye does not. It will be interesting how they both wind up in their careers, but too me. I think the bears are drafting another Justin Fields all over again with Caleb Williams
@@TheCoachPlays justin fields doesn't have the pocket presence that caleb williams has and holds onto the ball too long. williams also has that criticism but for entirely different reasons. with caleb, he holds onto the ball too long at times because he's looking for the big play. he's keeping his eyes downfield the whole time. whereas with fields, he holds onto the ball because he legitimately can't anticipate throwing windows and locks onto his reads. if you watch the games where their defense wasn't give up 40+ you saw him stand in the pocket, go through progressions, and make the right decisions. it was only when he felt that he had to be superman where you saw the "hero ball" mentality. the ability is there to do it and the bears have a great surrounding cast for him to succeed.
They won’t and drake maye is going to be a bad 2nd or 3rd pick. I’ve already said this, but I have Bo Nix ahead of him due to his processing speed and accuracy.
I also think JJ McCarthy has a higher ceiling with his arm talent, ability to throw every ball and when tasked with throwing, almost always killed it and didn’t throw that many bad passes. More unproven, better guys around him but to see regression, and yes I know he lost weapons, but he advanced a year and regressed to a sub 3:1 TD:INT ratio which is not a top 5 pick in my opinion but let’s let the Washington club pick Zach Wilson the 2nd
You’re going to get the next Patrick Mahomes and I’m jealous AF. You already got our WR and TE in keenan Allen and Everett.
Good luck!
Would you as the bears GM Trade 1, 9 and a future 1st for Justin Herbert? I don’t think I would as a bolts fan as Herbert with good coaching (see Shane Steichen rookie year and year 2 before Lombardi took away his ability to run) is a true top tier QB and already proven.
Although, I feel like Caleb is a LOCK to be a top 5 QB and getting capital to grab Malik Nabers or Bryan Thomas Jr (my top 2 WR) would be a good way to free up cap and truly reset the franchise. Growing pains would be incurred, yes. But ultimately I think both teams would benefit down the road
Thoughts?
Throw 2 was late and behind as the receiver had to stop and come back instead of extending his arms
Love it. Would like to see come Caleb vs Drake throwing motion break down side by side
Interesting 🤔
Does he ever play from under center or is this something that will have to be taught from scratch in the nfl? Of the top 3 I think the best place for him is New England. They’ve already stated they want the QB they get to sit a year
So I have not noticed a lot of under Center for Drake Maye, but I can tell you this it’s more than Caleb Williams.
Williams only snap under center was to run a sneak.
It will definitely be learning curves for both QB’s but I do believe Maye has been under center more.
They did run alot of pistol formation
@@darnellharris111 yes, but still different than under center
I don’t love any of the QBs, but I think I’ve got Maye over Caleb. Puzzled by all of the negative comments on Maye.
Same, the more I dive into all the QB’s the more I am not amazed by any
I think the conversation should be Jayden Daniel’s or Caleb Williams not Drake maye vs Williams Daniel’s is so much smoother in a proven LSU offense that translates to the NFL and is much more athletic I don’t get it
He is going to be the next one I break down. But just from my takeaways, I see more pros for Drake Maye at times than I do for Caleb Williams. But that is just me
Hes my QB 4 behind Williams, Daniel’s, Nix. Tied at fourth I have JJ and Maye. Give me JJ at barely 21 any day to be quite honest. Give me Caleb Williams over any other QB prospect in the past 5 years. The kid had one bad game and only threw one bad pick. The other 2 were a tipped ball and a safety accidentally out of position. I’ve never seen a QB go through reads as fast as Caleb Williams aside from burrow in the last decade. Add on his insane agility and backyard on the run ad-lib play and you have Mahomes 2.0
2nd we have Daniels who is a 6’3 slinger who runs likely a 4.4 or faster. His only issue is, like Lamar, he looks to run and escape the pocket before he needs to sometimes. He runs to run instead of using his natural speed to evade the rush and throw outside the box.
Next up is Bo Nix. Cannon for an arm and can make all the throws and despite being 24, he has PLENTY of room to grow. He’ll go to Denver MARK MY WORDS.
JJ McCarthy will go either 3 or 5 to the pats or the Vikings respectively. Maye will go to the commanders and fail miserably on a bad team and be the next 2 overall that didn’t even make it through his rookie contract before washing out (Sorry Zach Wilson the second)
First throw is why he’s not even top 3 for me
Maye is severely OVERRATED. 2nd round pick at best. Simms and Merrill Hoge's evaluations are spot on.
Wow, round 2. I see more upside
You need to understand that he’s not good enough to be a starting QB in the NFL. He will, but he’s absolutely gonna be a bust. He’s not even close to as good as Caleb
THE DUDE WENT 8-5 IN THE WORST POWER 5 CONFERENCE, AND GOT CARRIED BY HIS RUNNING BACK, ON TOP OF HIM NOT BEING A GAME CHANGING QB
I just don’t see what you see. I may be wrong, but I think a lot of people are missing the boat on Drake Maye. And I also believe Caleb Williams could be a major bust . Caleb Williams is not an anticipatory thrower. He waits for people to come open. Drake , is much more advanced as far as throwing people opened and anticipating windows.
Record is not always accurate representation of how someone can be as a pro QB.
Jay cutler had a terrible record at Vanderbilt, and ended up the best QB in that draft and played 10 + years as a starting QB. There are plenty of more examples as well
No way .
He will get drafted by a team caught up in the hype and Drake isn't the one
Who do you like and why ?
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@@TheCoachPlays unless he plays for Mike McDaniel, I don't see his game working in the NFL. He has never stood tall in a collapsing pocket to make a throw. He only plays from shotgun with a lot of time or he throws to his first option or he runs it. I don't see any command in the pocket, going to his 4th or 5th reads practically ever. Can he make a lot of tough throws? Yeah. But he's going to need to deal with a dirty pocket infinitely more than he ever did in college. He never tried to show he could do that on college. I don't see it suddenly developing now. Unless he goes to a team like NE that maybe will stuff him on the bench for a year or two, other high drafting teams will need him now.
@@derbagger22 I respectfully disagree. In the video shows him actually working from one side of the field, to the next side in read progressions. There is also a clip of him standing in the pocket and taking a blitz right to the chin while delivering a throw. So he shows that capability.
He will have to grow from taking snaps under center, but most QB’s have to now. I don’t see him try to pull and run too quickly. I see him using his legs at the right time. He is not a finished product by far, but I see more quality traits than I do when I was Caleb Williams
@@TheCoachPlays I'm not saying he can't throw while under duress. He can certainly take it on the chin. But, can he move around in a collapsing pocket, avoiding multiple rushers while still scanning the field? I saw Zach Wilson do similar things to Maye. But he couldn't deal with a dirty pocket...
@@derbagger22 time will tell. It’s not easy for sure.