Planting Trees in Bulk // Reforesting with White Pine
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
- #forestry #replanting #timber
A contracted work crew from Guatemala preps and plants white pines in an area that was harvested two years ago. This crew plants around 40,000 trees per 8 hour work day, ~4,000 trees per person. Their planting bag will hold 400 trees and using a dibble, shallow slits in the earth are made and each tree placed a specified distance away from each other according to the species planted.
This forest will fully mature in about 80 years before it will be thinned, harvested, or preserved.
Shot with the Canon 80D in HD at 60fps.
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To the armchair experts making uninformed comments below. First that isn't a shovel, it is a dibble bar that is designed for exactly the way they are using it and no it doesn't have a sharp edge. As to survival rate, this is white pine, short of just throwing them on the ground, they will do well. As to planting in the debris and overgrowth, clearing it would hurt the soil fertility, promote erosion and increase sun scald and wind burn on the seedlings. While it may not meet your aesthetic expectations, this is best industry practice for large scale reforestation in this type of setting. As for rate of planting, I'm only good for about 200 an hour....but at 65 I'm a tad older than these gentlemen and the ground seems to be a lot further away than it used to be.
Thanks for providing your opinion with some real experience behind it!
I guarantee 75% of those trees are j-rooted, those dibble bars are not going in far enough. One man with a hodad, hodad has the ability to consistently penetrate soil to proper depth for root length so to prevent j-rooting.
Those guys are faster than machine! They don't know what tiring is.
Heck ya they do this 6 days a week 10-12 hours a day!
Wow. Looks to b cutting the roots up
Gotta get into the ground!
where are you guys doing this work?
Are they not chopping the roots when they use their spade to mash it in I plant Sitka in Scotland usually 1200 -1600 A day on mounds but I would get the boot if I planted like that we have to put the roots in by hand and straighten the tree without any lower branches getting burried
What kind of prices per tree do they have at Sitka?
They're actually not mashing the roots with the spade. I thought so at first too. Check out close ups starting at 6:01. They're driving the spade in the soil behind the planting hole then pressing forward to close the planting hole and pulling up lightly on the tree to prevent J- root. That's skill.
@@stewartmior9492 abou 7 - 8p per tree
What happened to the days of using a penalty blade for those bare roots??
What the heck is that?
Whats the succes rate, out of all this wonderfull job?
Also i would like to know what are the main factors to consider if i want to refores a land?
It seems pretty good I'm sure they lose at least 10% though looking at some older jobs through the years.
where is this? what is the temperature and season? is it early spring?
Spring in northern MN
4000 is believable considering one of those guys was making a plant about every 10 seconds
I talked with the county forester when shooting this video and this is what they actually do! It's a lot of work.
no way, those guys are doing about 1500/day each. I run crews like this and those guys are moving the same.
@mike k... Can I get some details on this job plz?
@@richardnokes6438 1) are you with a government agency? 2) what details do you want?
Trust me that is not a 4k pace I've done a 4k plant in 8 hours and it was way quicker thank this
Looks like they are planting trees in Canada.
Sounds like they are planting trees in Mexico.
the boxes say Minnesota Dept. of Natural Resources (MNDNR)
I need this done in Ohio. How can I get a crew to do the same thing?
I can arrange a meeting in a mexican agency, please feel free to send me an e-mail, carlosgonzalezmartinez@live.com
Carlos Gonzalez They’re in Ohio, not Mexico.
You're Right, unfortunately we are in Mexico!
@@CarlosGonzalez-tq7wx these guys are in Minnesota lol look at the boxes
Would it hurt to use AMERICAN LABOR? On the box it says MN. MN is for state of Minnesota?
I guess the most of the american labour workers are not interested in physical work like that
You are correct! 6 days a week 12-14/hrs a day traveling and sleeping in hotels. I talked to one of these contractors back in 2010 looking for a job and he said he doesn't hire Americans any more because they can't keep up. Legally, he had to post the job for everyone.
😂 You think you could get an American under the age of 30 to put their phone down long enough to plant a tree? 😂
What a grand job tree planting is. One job where I get paid for how I work, if some lazy fuker is near you, they soon get fuked off. Different game in the UK tho, not planting 4000 a day in the uk haha
They are not getting the roots down deep enough. There will be a big lose of trees do to deer pulling them right out of the ground. I've done this also and they are not using those Dibble bars correctly.
john Isbell do you know the average depth you need to plant those?
@@cjss-yg2lz Most of the time your dibble bar will get you deep enough if the ground isn't too hard. I always used bare Root seedlings. Sometimes you get tree seedlings that have a well developed root system. I just drove the Dibble bar down as far as I could and put the roots in the hole and spread them out as best I could The only trees I lost were do to Deer.
@@cjss-yg2lz Depending on the amount of roots and the size of the bare root tree I would say about 6 to 8 inches into the ground or about even with the base of the seeding.
@@cjss-yg2lz I was noticing the same thing John was noticing. They are barely getting below the surface. The reason those Dibble bars are designed the way they are is so that you use your foot to drive it a good 12 inches below the surface. That doesn't mean you necessarily plant them that deep, but it gives the roots a place to go when planted correctly. By the looks of it, the soil was too hard for them to just be using their hands to throw the Dibble bar into the soil.
What do you expect from a pack of scabs they hired in the Home Depot parking lot that morning?
How many grow
I'd say 90% survival to maturity
Hi . How can I apply like this jobs any one have ideas 💡
Contact some major timber producers.
@@timberindustry352 thank you sir
40,000 trees per hour! Thats insane! So how much do they charge?
we charge them $ 80 per tree put in the ground
That's per day. Each worker is paid per tree I'm not sure how much they get.
@@timberindustry352 Doesnt look like it, the tree's arent bundled and just thrown into bags without being counted
those trees aren't deep enough, not well packed and probably loose. And what about "J" roots?
+Nilo bave this crew plants tens of thousands of trees per day and millions per year the trees do just fine. The planting process is carefully managed and supervised.
You should clear all the old woods & roots before planting, how can the new tree survive with that condition.
Nilo bave it appears they dont have strict planting regulations like in bc. as well the trees have no pods/nutrients to help the tree grow. I doubt they even care wherever theyre planting tho. as long as theyre in the ground they hope it grows lol
Looks half-assed as hell to me too.
They may plant thousands but anyone can with that spacing and poor quality
Jaja esos pinos los esconden
No way one guy plants 4000 trees at that speed as was stated, more like 10% of that. If you watch them, they plant one about every 20-30 seconds (understandable)-that would be 480 per day per person, not 4000. Per other stuff I've read, 1000/day per person would border on outside edge of possible for a human.
mengtx im a planter and i do 1000 per day, others im my crew do between 1.3k-2k depending on the condition of the block but minimum 1k even in the ruggy
OK then...and 4k per day?
mengtx those guys wont be able to plant 4k there way to slow if they were in ruggy blocks at there speed they would be lucky to hit 800 but in canada and on mounds some ppl do over 5k in a 10hr day
They seem to run from 7-10 seconds in between each. The one guy with the sickle-like tool was 6 seconds between first ground strikes. They'd need to be 7.2 seconds for each one to plant 1000 in 8 hours. That's with zero breaks and no pausing at all, even to grab new saplings.
Not true. I've seen little girls with a daily average of 4k.
Cuanto pagan el 1000
Ni usar la barra saben
awesome bro nice work going on there,,, from my view as I've seen ur workers would b consider snails compared to me,,, lol,, if need a smasher let me no.
Not my crew but a contracted crew from Kansas. I'm sure they can be found on the interwebs somewhere, good luck!
@@timberindustry352 how do i get in that kind of work i really would like to work a phone number would be nice
what is the name of the company that this group work for
I also plant trees I'm bulk no way they plant 4,000 a day we average a decent good worker plants 1000 a day. 4000 is ridiculous
I still think that too much I'm a talking a regular 8 hour day with the required minimum two breaks and half an hour lunch plus time it takes to refill, and with that size plant. Also the dirt if it's easy to work with, not clay-like. I'm pretty sure they were told that during the day they would be recorded so they were at there A game planting. I plant all different types of plants mostly larger bare root plants in some pretty hard ground, when we get a chance to plant in some more aerated ground it's a great day for us.
And then there is spacing we had a client want 20 foot spacing between plants so we did more walking then planting.
Philipino gang
They are from Guatemala.
This is painful to watch. I planted around 2.2million seedlings over 24 planting seasons in BC Canada. These shovels are brutal looking. Straight angle. Heavy. No grip. Every time they manage to get that thing in the ground it’s angled back, crooked leaving the roots laying on an angle not straight then they kick it over on a lean. These guys are great workers, too bad they’re gang planting and with shit equipment and strange quality expectations.
yeah this is super odd, i dont know how this ever happened
For somebody who plants millions of trees, you don't sound very experienced. They are dibble bars, being used correctly. I could get 50% survival rate by throwing a handful of Pinus Strobus seedlings into a mud hole. Pine trees have been around long before humans and will be around long after humans.
80% of these plants will probably die out unfortunately
More than 80% will establish and thrive!