Internal Comparison & Maintenance for Mosmatic, MTM SGS28, & SG28 Guns
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- Опубліковано 11 сер 2017
- I pulled apart the 3 guns that I am so fond of to dig into how you would maintain them and also to see what the parts looks.
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I just ordered my MTM trigger and Mosmatic wand. Glad I watched this to know how to maintain the system and what to expect.
Given the gun's simple internals, it would be SUPER COOL if you could convince Mosmatic to produce "upgrade parts" (like the one-piece plug & swivel) for those of us who already bought the $110 gun. I'd love to upgrade my swivel/plug without having to spend another $110+ dollars on a completely new gun. Having product support at that level straight from the OG store would be amazing.
It’s funny watching this again a few years later. When this video came out no one really had these aftermarket stubby guns, quick release lances and snow foam cannons in the UK. In the last 18 months or so, they are suddenly everywhere. Mainly cheap Chinese guns but recently it seems more MTM and Mosmatics are appearing in retailers. I got a cheap Chinese gun a year ago and it was OK. I bought a SGS35 last week, PF22 and all stainless lance which looks identical to the newer OG one. The difference is night and day and I think the UK scene is realising that too. It all started with OG. Shame it works out so expensive with shipping and taxes to get from OG in the UK.
Good to know information for Maintenance, Cheers man
Happy OG customer.... adding this video to my favorites list for future reference for my mosmatic maintenance.
Thanks!
Matt is the man!
hey.. if i buy the sg28 gun on your site with the added quick disconnects will that fit right onto my ryobi 1600 psi pressure washer or willi need some more extra parts ??
Hey Matt! Looking into your Milwaukee tool solution, mainly your drills. The drill your using is what I would need, for small jobs like this…..can you tell me which drill and drill bit set up your using?
Thank you!!
Starting to look into getting a pressure washer and one of these guns. But now torn on which one to get. Great info on how to maintain these guns. I really like the idea of how the Mosmatic trigger is built but also like how the MTM is stainless throughout. Thanks Matt!
Take a look at the Suttner ST-2605 sprayer. The Mosmatic looks exactly like the Suttner ST-2605 sprayer and the Suttner ST is made in Germany and only cost around $45.00.
@@spllbnd2 thanks, I'll look into
What bit set is that? Looks perfect For my needs!
How does the mosmatic compare to the sgs35 aqualine?
What bit set is that?
His voice is great to listen to, to putyouto sleep
I personally prefer the SGS28 over the Mosmatic when I compared them side by side. The SGS28 trigger is very light and smooth to pull. The mosmatic trigger “switch” is annoying. The SGS28 also feels substantially lighter which is important since it results in way less fatigue when going around a car with a hose and foam cannon.
The SGS28 is my design. I worked with MTM USA/Veloci to develop it. The short coming of it versus the Mosmatic is that it has a plastic internal trigger mechanism. The Mosmatic is metal ball bearing driven. The Mosmatic also has likely the best swivel in the world versus the MTM.
The obsession with stainless steel is just a waste of money. I have an all-brass gun that is over 10 years old and it functions perfectly. I've only cleaned it out with a bit of vinegar and detergent i think twice. It's made in italy by AR. I think i spent $30 on it.
A friend of mine owns a mosmatic and after a year and a half it stopped clicking.
What adapters/parts would I need to get the gun on the far right ,to be like the other 2? Swivel ,quick connect, sizes? Please
You'd have a ton of bulky fittings to make that work. It would cost just as much, so I would suggest buying one that already has it.
When do you think the SGS28 will be available in your store Matt? Excited to pick one up!
It's up now. They will be in early next month.
How do you fix the pee, pee dribble at the tip?
The all-SS OG-spec Mosmatic will probably be $200, just a guess. I love how these can be easily taken apart and maintained. As opposed to developing a leak internally and having to toss the whole thing, just open it up and hopefully address the issue directly at the source.
You are right. We decided to leave the internals alone and address the inlet and outlet as well as the wand.
Hi my mtm sg28 after 1st use it making a squeeze noise i have try wd40 but it not help, what should i try next?
I took mine apart and put tiny bit of silicone grease on both sides of spring in between where the coil starts to touch and it eliminated the squeak. I haven’t used it again, I don’t know if water will wash it out. I thought it was a bigger problem but it’s just the spring rubbing on itself
I purchased an SG28 from you a few months ago. Is there a way I can add a swivel? If so, do you sell the swivel as an add on?
I don't see a swivel at obsessedgarage.com but you can buy a swivel from MTM Hydro parts (brass or stainless).
Yes, you can directly buy the swivel from mtmhydroparts.com, or mosmatic swivel from kleen-ritecorp.com
How long you think it be until the mosmatic all stainless steel gun what you want integrated into the gun you want to your spec be released? I'm wanting to buy the mosmatic swivel gun
It won't be any time soon, but I'm working on it. Probably 6 months.
@@ObsessedGarage is it a thing yet ?
What about if you have a leak on the swivel? Can you fix that or where can I buy just the swivel?
You can buy a new swivel, but it’s pretty cost prohibitive.
How come you do not use the kranzle short gun. Do you not rate them or do you think they are to heavy.
Their's is not really a short gun and has goofy connections on the inlet and outlet.
im going to get the sgs28 on your site.. do you sell high pressure hoses that would be superior to the one that came with the ryobi 1600 psi???
Yes, it's called a Kobrajet, awesome hose.
Whatever happened to the full stainless steel Mosmatic sprayer? Did they not like that suggestion? seems like there is a market for it
It's almost done.
I have a roybi.2000 psi will the sg28 hook up directly and can you send me link to purchase
www.obsessedgarage.com/collections/ryobi-accessories
Does anyone know where to buy the mosmatic in Australia? because I've found mtm pf22 and the guns. But i havent found the mosmatic wands and guns
I don't think there is a dealer there. I ship them your way every day, but it's not cheap.
@@ObsessedGarage Just realised the prices are in Australia its cheaper the only thing is the shipping will buy it soon thanks for your support Matt
Have a good one
Dean Psilopatis hey Dean, contact Nick from Detailing Shed in Sydney Australia. We also have a mosmatic Australia here.
Suggest the MV925; for the value and made in Italy, best trigger gun for your money
Ha, ha... That gun is not good. Like really not good.
Curious if anyone can say how much "easier" it is to hold down that trigger on the Mosmatic? Looks like as pointed out that once you pull it back, it is easier to hold in the on position? I ask because I have severe RSI which makes holding a normal cheap gun in the on position extremely painful.
I ordered the OF Mosmatic this weekend so I will answer this question myself. YES! It is so much easier to trigger and hold this gun than the stock gun I had. A million, zillion times easier. Purchasing this gun - which honestly cost more than my entire pressure washer - is a life changer, and that isn't hyperbole.
@@JohnVanderbeck I bought the sgs28 and I agree having a nice gun makes a difference. I was using the stock gun and hose for years and it was never a good experience
I want to get the SG 28 with quick disconnects for my Comet, do I need the 14mm or 15mm version?
Neither. The Comet hose has an adapter that converts BSPP to 3/8" NPT male. You need a female 3/8" coupler.
@@ObsessedGarage do you sell the adapters to connect the pf22 foam cannon to the standard comet gun?
@@08CspecGT Go to his website, and look at Comet systems, buy that.
If anyone wants a full stainless internal Mosmatic Gun you can grab a Suttner ST-2700 and add the mosmatic swivel
That's too much bulk for me. An external swivel add 3" to the inlet of the line.
@@ObsessedGarage how about buy an st-2700 and mosmatic, then switch the swivels? i mean it is removable right?
Did the OG spec gun ever release Matt? The Mosmatic with stainless internals and stainless screws?
Not yet. Final approvals of the prototype are done. Now it's onto production. Probably first quarter 2019.
@@ObsessedGarage Sounds great Matt, cant wait for the release!
Obsessed Garage Looking forward to learn about it.
OG, can you explain to me why my gun sprays water without pressing the trigger?
That usually means the gun is bad. Something is wrong with the trigger sealing.
thx
I need washer gun
I’m new to this, but what benefit does stainless steel have over brass?
For this application, mainly corrosion and oxidation. But technically they are for higher pressure applications.
i have a ryobi 2300 psi pressure washer. i want to upgrade my gun. i'm interested at the mosmatic swivel. do i choose the one that is adapted for AR/SunJoe/other M22 15mm? thanks in advance!
No, I think the Ryobi has standard fitting, so you won't need that adapter.
Any news on the Obsessed Garage stainless steel version of mosmstic gun?
Check instagram @obsessedgarage
Is it possible to lubricate the QDs?
They don't need any lubrication.
Obsessed Garage My QD is pretty difficult to slide. The one from the hose to gun.
Is the MTM's swivel their own or is it a mosmatic swivel?
It's not a Mosmatic. I'm not sure if MTM makes it. They likely do no and source it elsewhere.
Thank you. Im over in Florida too Melbourne and i found a local pressure washer supply house, have you ever tried a Suttner (german made) gun? They are pretty freaking nice. Great content keep it up. You have made it acceptable to go down the rabbit hole =)
The Mosmatic is a Suttner gun with a Mosmatic swivel installed.
@@ObsessedGarage Hi, MOSMATIC GUN PN: 29.131 hawe a DGVI ? or DGS swiwell ?type from MOSMATIC? ( I want to be able to live move from a standard RM Suttner ST-2300/2600 at full pressure.
Can I use any one of this gun on the 1750psi electric power washer or I can use this one also JWGJW Adjustable Foam Cannon, Pressure Washer Spray Nozzle Tips Multiple Degrees, 1/4 INCH (2.5 GMP) .car wash. (Foam Cannon + high-Pressure Gun +5 high Pressure w)
Yes it will work, but get rid of the foam cannon. You want MTM PF-22.
Can you answer question what psi do you use to wash cars 1500 ,2000,2500
1000 is the target pressure
The Mosmatic is basically a Suttner st2605.
It is made by Suttner, but it is very different.
Weird that this model looks exactly like the suttner st model.
Looks exactly like the Suttner ST-2605 sprayer and the Suttner ST is made in Germany and only cost around $45.00.
You talk about everything has to be the best but you harbor freight bits lol
ahhh good old 360p XD, i hate that on youtube
So i never knew how youtube uploads work. like i noticed some people upload instantly 4k and others 360 and after an hour or so get's fixed, so is it like their option to publish the video before it's compressed as you said or wait till it's fully processed and then upload it?
Most people will schedule their upload for a certain time. So their video has uploaded and processed. I just put mine up when it's done. So there is a lag on 1080P.
oooh i see, thanks for explaining that for me. it's been a mystery for me for the last 22 years of my life and i finally figured it out :D
what a sad man...