Strike at Karkand PVP: Combat Mission Shock Force 2

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
  • A meeting engagement between British and German forces on Luka's excellent Strike at Karkand map.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 92

  • @kyun1711
    @kyun1711 4 місяці тому +74

    Pathing was the real OPFOR this mission

  • @jasonpeacock9735
    @jasonpeacock9735 4 місяці тому +66

    Ah, getting Battlefront 2 related ptsd over that map

    • @rugged_antelope3123
      @rugged_antelope3123 4 місяці тому +2

      Brother man I'm thinking of finding again just from the old sounds.
      Rehab ain't an option for us

    • @Pvt.Conscriptovich
      @Pvt.Conscriptovich 4 місяці тому +6

      Battlefield*

  • @igoralekseyev3347
    @igoralekseyev3347 4 місяці тому +56

    General Erwin Rommel (no relation) of the Bundeswehr leads his Syrien Korps into battle against the British 7th Armoured Brigade ("Desert Rats").
    History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes.

  • @Lazuli2-6
    @Lazuli2-6 4 місяці тому +46

    Love the high pace and violence in still engagement. Those light vics are really fast and really fun to sieze key terrain in the first minute. The only downside to them is that since they crew the vic, you can only dismount them at the start of the next turn which could mean loss seconds that could vital to feeding more info to you

  • @itschris8601
    @itschris8601 4 місяці тому +20

    The voices, they never stop.
    24/7 KARKAND INF ONLY FF OFF

  • @ndx6779
    @ndx6779 4 місяці тому +14

    Looks like the spirit of Battlefield 2 was kept with the unusually fast and brutal tempo of this fight. Massive casualties, everything going in guns blazing, infantry and armor, oh my!

  • @aleksaradojicic8114
    @aleksaradojicic8114 4 місяці тому +24

    Uf PR map of Grozny would be fun experience as base for Combat Mission battle.

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 4 місяці тому

      Agreed, I think the Devs should resume releasing content for Combat Mission Black Sea. Or make a brand new engine (or make it in Unreal Engine)

  • @tremendousbaguette9680
    @tremendousbaguette9680 4 місяці тому +14

    Sweet memories from BF2, when I had the optimal hand-eye coordination of my age back then... *grumbles*

  • @MandolinMagi
    @MandolinMagi 4 місяці тому +8

    Javelin really is an insane weapon for infantry AT.

  • @IG88TheRobot
    @IG88TheRobot 4 місяці тому +10

    Luka makes some good maps. We kicked each others ass on an Urban CW map he made and it was extremely fun. Glad Combat Mission devs added the map maker. Great video as always Hapless!

  • @Paintballfi
    @Paintballfi 4 місяці тому +6

    This was great, took a moment to remember why Karkand seemed like familiar name 😃

  • @axbaron
    @axbaron 4 місяці тому +7

    Awesome video! In my opinion, peer vs. peer engagements are always more fun due to how hectic and bloody the fights can get

  • @BoneIdolUK
    @BoneIdolUK 4 місяці тому +6

    I always love your videos but saw this title and had to click right away! Please replay this scenario in the style of Battlefield 2, USA vs Syria assault

  • @BossFunk
    @BossFunk 4 місяці тому +4

    hey hapless just wanted to say how much I enjoy your videos man, i’ve been watching for about a year now and just bought my third combat mission game. I absolutely love your way of narrating and almost explaining the mission like a story.
    Keep it going brother🤝🤝🤝

  • @grapesnch33s3
    @grapesnch33s3 4 місяці тому +4

    Incredible video mate, sniping from spawn to spawn on Karkand is something I didn't expect to see today but hey, it's a great surprise!

  • @rastapasta6447
    @rastapasta6447 4 місяці тому +4

    Wow, what a slaughter, great plays and counter plays from both players, the lethality of everything in the modern titles always catches me off guard. Great vid!

  • @Grimshak81
    @Grimshak81 4 місяці тому +1

    Absolutley love those battle reports!
    Nice to see the difference between a slow firing Autocannon and the 20mm Rheinmetall rapid fire cannon. Usually people only focus on the caliber. Impressive how Luca came back into the game.

  • @zer9761
    @zer9761 4 місяці тому +2

    it loks like in CM its very much infantry-oriented map maybe few armored cars like humvees but thats all. Introducing thermals and high calibers just leads to this instant combat. Great map from Luka as always.

  • @wheelcha1rman2
    @wheelcha1rman2 4 місяці тому +4

    I loved BF2 so much.

  • @MrChileno94
    @MrChileno94 4 місяці тому +2

    after seeing this, i remembered there was a CMSF2 Kokan map, ohhh it was awesome. Other PR map that i would love to have in CMSF2 and thats Kashan Desert!

  • @Mechanized85
    @Mechanized85 4 місяці тому +4

    that was very brutal and also was a great show.

  • @pauldangel734
    @pauldangel734 4 місяці тому +3

    Excellent video (as usual). A 'very well done' to both sides.

  • @DLeadShot
    @DLeadShot 4 місяці тому +6

    Unless I'm blind and/or not paying attention, it looks Luka did not bring any Challengers. I'm not as skilled as y'all are, but that seems to me like an error given that the heaviest AT weapons that the Germans in CMSF2 are bringing are the Panzerfaust ("short" range"), the MILAN (SACLOS operated attached to the Marder), and the Leopard's cannon.
    But I'm not exactly what the Challengers would have done here besides being tanks (which is seldom a _bad_ thing).

    • @usuallyhapless9481
      @usuallyhapless9481  4 місяці тому +3

      It is usually worth bringing tanks, even if you can only bring them out in the end game to mop up enemy infantry in buildings

  • @wojszach4443
    @wojszach4443 4 місяці тому +5

    pzh2000 wonderfull artillery piece made with german finesse
    wunderwaffe when works

  • @hohahohaya
    @hohahohaya 4 місяці тому +5

    amazing video and narration!

  • @jeffh8803
    @jeffh8803 4 місяці тому +2

    I enjoyed this one. Nice to see a tight battle without gamey points accounting.

    • @usuallyhapless9481
      @usuallyhapless9481  4 місяці тому

      Yeah, it's nice to play a game purely for fun every once in a while

  • @kevinl.o.torres8962
    @kevinl.o.torres8962 4 місяці тому +2

    Luka represent CM's Brazilian community more than anyone ! Cheirs to my cumpadre!

  • @whya2ndaccount
    @whya2ndaccount 4 місяці тому +1

    FYI, this appeared on my "subscription" list a few days ago, prior to me being able to actually play it.

    • @usuallyhapless9481
      @usuallyhapless9481  4 місяці тому

      It went live for UA-cam members last week, so... probably some kind of UA-cam shenanigans.

  • @kevshabunas523
    @kevshabunas523 4 місяці тому

    MEC theme on repeat, lets goooooo!

  • @HouseholdDog
    @HouseholdDog 4 місяці тому

    Amazing map. Brings back a lot of memories.

  • @robertkalinic335
    @robertkalinic335 4 місяці тому +5

    If u knew he is going to bring a ton of javelins, arent leopards a bit too much expensive to exchange with them if u have those weasels?

    • @usuallyhapless9481
      @usuallyhapless9481  4 місяці тому +4

      I didn't know he was necessarily going to take a lot of Javelins- the Leopards were the only thing I had that could go up against Challenger

  • @JuliusGeezer447
    @JuliusGeezer447 4 місяці тому +1

    Ah right in the nostalgia

  • @GuerrillasGuide
    @GuerrillasGuide 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for sharing. Great video, as always.

  • @Marlon044
    @Marlon044 24 дні тому

    awesome that someone created karkand ;p

  • @juliosouzaborba4490
    @juliosouzaborba4490 4 місяці тому +3

    Luka probably one of the best Combat Mission players, top 1% definitely. OTAN should hire him to design real urban maps and battles.

  • @troopieeeeee
    @troopieeeeee 4 місяці тому +2

    great battle!

  • @derrickmorrison5832
    @derrickmorrison5832 4 місяці тому +2

    You have to wonder how this meeting engagement would have turned out with hordes of FPV drones from both sides hunting for targets.

    • @usuallyhapless9481
      @usuallyhapless9481  4 місяці тому +1

      It depends on how much EW each side has to mitigate them.

    • @akboy47
      @akboy47 4 місяці тому

      They would have been forced to dump their infantry in position then immediatly pulls the vehicles back and hide in the wooded areas. They likely would have chosen apcs over ifv due to the uselessness of their firepower once the fpvs arrived. The tanks may have been usefull tho, they could have hid them in woods and move them out to fire few rounds and hide them right back in. So far, the only ifv that is suitable for a fpv environement is the bmp3 due to its 100mm cannon, allowing it to shoot and scoop like a tank. Thus fpv basically force you to use armor as in guerilla warfare. It also mostly turn into infantry based combat, which explains why the conflict in ukraine turned into positional warfare.

  • @mimir4965
    @mimir4965 4 місяці тому +1

    Great video as always. As others pointed out, some rules in terms of what players are bringing seemed to be off as javelin spam just wrecked the tanks!

  • @skinnybob6784
    @skinnybob6784 4 місяці тому +1

    I realy enjoyed it :)

  • @michaelbourgeault9409
    @michaelbourgeault9409 4 місяці тому +1

    Military History Visualized has a video about the Wiesal

  • @cesurkarakus209
    @cesurkarakus209 4 місяці тому +2

    Someone please make a single player scenario for this map.

  • @wgrundmeier
    @wgrundmeier 4 місяці тому +3

    Mass javelin sure seems to reinforce the "tanks are obsolete" claim. Mobility appears to be the best way to make use of tanks, the Leopards died almost as fast as the lighter vehicles.

  • @System-Update
    @System-Update 4 місяці тому +2

    Ouch.
    Medic!

  • @daredemontriple6
    @daredemontriple6 4 місяці тому +2

    Really puts into perspective just how scary western units are - HQs can and will take out your heavy armour, single AT teams can and will take out entire platoons worth. Every unit is capable of trading itself 1:1, and more often than not does so. Every fight costs you, there are no complete victories, it simply doesn't matter how good your technology or your tactics are when you're fighting troops at this level, they all sting you in their death throes.
    Personally I think taking as many tanks as you did was the real mistake. Against an inferior opponent, the armour and detection ability means those tanks can rampage if well handled, but against a peer enemy, it's only a matter of time until they're knocked out, and there are far more threats that can knock them out too. They have to work much much harder to pay for themselves. Personally I think I would have opted for an infantry heavy set-up, and discard the marders for the same reason as the tanks. AT teams will happily pick off armour that dares to sit on the edge of the 'bowl of death' - in the age of laser guided top-attack munitions, hull-down doesn't mean much. Force the opponent to make an assault on the city and turn it into a meat grinder, and have the PzH 2ks ready to shatter the forward positions as they are lost - scorched earth style.
    Still, I like the aggressive approach and the plan to sneak down the beach and break out of the bowl. Perhaps if you had committed more troops to this and earlier, you'd have been in a good position to mop up the British troops!

    • @usuallyhapless9481
      @usuallyhapless9481  4 місяці тому

      The risk with going infantry heavy is that you end up with the same problem. My infantry in the town got chewed up because it was overlooked and lacked effective AT. Having more infantry would not have solved that problem, it would have given Luka more targets... especially if he had brought his own tanks and artillery.

  • @bushcat274
    @bushcat274 4 місяці тому +2

    Hi Hapless
    I just fired up Black Sea and set everything to the max but my graphics look bad compared to yours.
    Im running a 4.5 ghz new I5 and a 2060 6gb oc card with 16gb ram.
    Are you using mods for textures or models or do you have a link to the page with the vooddo recipe?
    Cheers fella great channel.

    • @usuallyhapless9481
      @usuallyhapless9481  4 місяці тому

      In Black Sea I use Kieme's textures which are kinda hard to get hold of these days (looks like there's a bunch here: community.battlefront.com/topic/139975-mods-by-bil-hardenberger-btr-kieme-vein-zveroboy1-new-backup-location/ ).
      Worth noting that changing the graphics settings in CM generally just changes the LOD distance, so setting things to max isn't going to help that much!

  • @10thlegiongames70
    @10thlegiongames70 4 місяці тому +2

    Now that we've seen the slaughter of Blue vs. Blue, some of your older vids on Syrian vs. Syrian, what about Uncon vs. Uncon? Complete jank-fest gameplay wise, but interesting when looking at some of the early Kurdish vs. IS engagements?

    • @usuallyhapless9481
      @usuallyhapless9481  4 місяці тому +1

      I don't think I could cope with Uncon on Uncon. Too many units!

  • @WavveBoi
    @WavveBoi 3 дні тому

    Javelins eliminate the range game you just gotta push. Make your opponent deal with things he doesn't want to deal with. He wants to pick off tanks on the horizon line. Therefore. Put armor right in front of him supported by infantry on his flank and indirect fires on his rear line. If you have a large workload so does he.

  • @badgamer7593
    @badgamer7593 4 місяці тому +1

    I remember playing bf2 as a 6 year old spamming artillery strikes and running over enemies with the abrams in this map 😂

  • @JcDent
    @JcDent 3 місяці тому

    How suited is any map for Shock Force 2/Black Sea/Cold War engagements would be a better question. They're either entirely too small for the weapon systems to work with of start chugging before action even starts.

  • @olejnik5165
    @olejnik5165 4 місяці тому +10

    I really enjoyed that video, im autistic and I enjoyed it more than other of your videos (Not due to content since I love your content but the pace) I was full locked in and I hope u wont take it personally

  • @LDZMarder
    @LDZMarder 4 місяці тому

    You forgot to make suppression fier missions on the hills in airburst mode and low rate of fiere. This would scare off damage or even kill javelins teams. Javelins might be powerful but they need to be outside and 155 airburst is very deadly against infantry. I would have choose a big area on the enemy hill side and kept a constant suppression mission up to force the enemy to stay inside his ifv´s or scare him so fff that it becomes no mans land and no atgm teams will or want to be there.

  • @user-ui1bg9pu7z
    @user-ui1bg9pu7z 4 місяці тому +4

    I feel like some "gentleman rules" are needed when javelins are present in a faction, he didnt bring a single tank, yet he slaughtered all 6 leopards, very EXPENSIVE leopards

  • @cesurkarakus209
    @cesurkarakus209 4 місяці тому +2

    Which CM game has the most small-scaled scenarios?
    As a newbie, I feel under pressure when a scenario gives me too many troops. I just look at the map and I don't know what to do when I have so many troops. But this is not the case when I play small-scaled scenarios.

    • @usuallyhapless9481
      @usuallyhapless9481  4 місяці тому

      It's hard to say- they all have a mixture. Personally, I find it helps to break bigger battles down into smaller ones.

  • @CaliberNaught
    @CaliberNaught 4 місяці тому +2

    11:23
    Jeez those Marders were eating 30mm rounds like nothing. Was that superior German engineering or is the Rarden just that bad?

    • @usuallyhapless9481
      @usuallyhapless9481  4 місяці тому +2

      The Rarden was penetrating, so it looks like the post penetration effects are the problem. Warrior was really meant to tackle BMPs, which have a lot less armour than Marders

    • @copter2000
      @copter2000 4 місяці тому

      Warrior is made by a country who think clip-fed autocannon is a good idea.

    • @Mechanized85
      @Mechanized85 4 місяці тому

      at least, 30mm Rarden is still a good accuracy automatic cannon, even if not the best.

  • @HouseholdDog
    @HouseholdDog 4 місяці тому

    Should have used some dolphin diving.

  • @HouseholdDog
    @HouseholdDog 4 місяці тому

    I know this map better than my house.

  • @mimir4965
    @mimir4965 4 місяці тому +1

    5:10 lmao

  • @shanzhao2453
    @shanzhao2453 4 місяці тому

    There is no need to take such risky maneuver trying to flank the British, It seems that the British commander didn't take tank nor artillery, It should had been very difficult to break into the city if German used most of their unit to fortify the perimeter.

    • @Mechanized85
      @Mechanized85 4 місяці тому +1

      fog of war, or the British side, didn't expect there to be armour threats.

  • @crumpetcommandos779
    @crumpetcommandos779 4 місяці тому

    that rarden fire rate is just pitiful haha

  • @d.c.6065
    @d.c.6065 4 місяці тому +1

    Game?

  • @burningphoneix
    @burningphoneix 4 місяці тому

    1v1 me in Gulf of Oman.

  • @joshuagunderson6593
    @joshuagunderson6593 4 місяці тому +1

    Please bro, I know the creator of this map also made a very well done recreation of a map from PR based on Chechnya/Caucasus. I’ve wanted to see some gameplay of it forever now, one of the nicest maps I’ve seen.