18 Month Old Kangal | Turkish Kangal Dog | Ash The Kangal
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- Ash is our 18 month old Turkish Kangal Dog.
Now that he is a year and a half a lot has changed with him and we wanted to share some of the developmental changes you might expects with these dogs.
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my Kangal is 25 months old…got her as a pup. chastised her one time with the chickens…now she guards them with her life. leash trained her, but the only time she’s on a leash is when she comes to town with me. She has the run of the quarter section, she has been showed the corners of the farm…her perimeter, and she stays within those borders. They are smart dogs, and super observant, too. nothing sneaks by her attention…a pair of ears sticking up from the grass at a quarter mile away is quickly noted. Her “flock” is every animal on the farm, chickens, horse, myself, and even the cat. Very independant, will patrol the farm twice daily on her own to assess threats. Very fast. coyotes and wolves don’t test her, and I haven’t even seen a bear since I got her. She’s 145 lbs now, and that’s lean, powerful muscle…I try to fatten her up, but can still see her ribs. An absolute beast! A beaver was her last prey….it must have got caught on dry land, because she wasn’t wet at all. must have come up from the river, and she perceived it as a threat. She devoured everything, bones, skull, everything, in about 15 hours. powerful jaws, bite force exceeds all canines, including wolves…she does not like yappy dogs….or any dogs for that matter that she doesn’t know. good thing I don’t have close neighbors! It’s a great remote farm for her to stretch her legs and run. Best dog I’ve had…not cuddly, but she does have her moments when she is very loving, and luvs her bellyrubs and ear scratches. Knows where all members of her “flock” are, at all times. Guarding is her primary concern….the Beast comes out when wolves howl, or coyotes are yipping….more like Beserker Mode. Chases away eagles and hawks from the chickens….haven’t lost a single one to predators. I wouldn’t recommend a Kangal for city dwellers, but if you have the space for them to run, and a job for them to do…..they are in their element, and an absolutely wonderful dog. I think Ash and Boo should make some babies…cheers from northern BC🇨🇦
That was an awesome comment!
Fantastic setting for a Kangal and good training too! Get another Kangal if you got the real estate! You can leave your property without locking up and be safe.
türkiyede kangallar aşırı kilolu değildir.özellikle sürü ile gezen kangalların kilolu olması istenmez.çoğunlukla kaburgaları gözükür.onu sahada fit ve hızlı yapar.o yüzden endişelenmeyin.
I am on my third Kangal. These dogs are fantastic. They completely come into their own around 3 years of age. I just love this breed.
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The Turkish Kangal is an amazing and a majestic animal. As any owner will tell you, when they put their paws affectionately on your shoulders and looks you in to your eyes, they see through your soul, its a presence and a bond that no other dog will make you feel.
You are so lucky to own one and he is also very lucky to be a part of your family.
I love your videos. You love him so much. (And I love him too) Ash is Ash and this getting to know Ash is such a wonderful adventure. Thank you for how much you love him ❤
I have a 23 month Kangal who is an absolute sweetheart.
I have enjoyed following your posts & found them very helpful in understanding his development.
Like you, I take him for long walks in rural locations. Like Ash’ mine doesn’t always want to come back when he knows it’s getting time to go. So before it’s time to go I sit or lie on the ground & he will come & lie down with me for about 5-10 mins. He considers this a treat & bonding time & I pet & speak with him. After a while his energy has relaxed & while we are spending this sweet time together I get him tethered & he hardly realizes it. Then after a moment of continuing to be with him we decide to go & the last 300 meters we walk together while communicating. Works like a dream.
Having said that I also need to work on recall especially for emergency situations
Good luck !
Thanks for your message. That is a great tip and I will definitely start trying that
He is always on alert mode
He is a true Kangal ❤
Our Kangal (Chase) is massive, we were told he might max out at 150 but he’s well over 200., he maxed the vet scale out at 175 when he was 1 year old. These dogs are the sweetest monsters on the planet.
He has become an elite handsome young man. He is a lucky boy for having a family like you.
He is now 1.5 years old and maybe his independent character is really starting to show up, I dont know. But Im sure you ll get over it.
These dogs are unique as you are finding out. I've owned many breeds over the years and my Kangal is one of a kind. I appreciate your videos because you are documenting what I experience every day. I often say that she is the most sensitive bad-ass dog I've ever known. I'm sure you know what I mean. I end up being more of a manager of my dog than an "owner". I am constantly thinking one or two moves ahead to make sure things work out the way I want them to. However, the pay off is huge in loyalty and dedication.
100%
One thing about Kangal’s and Anatolians , they are bred to be independent thinkers as they would go off with the herd for months at a time with no human interaction, finding water and food where they could. They are smart and they don’t like being told what to do because they know what they are bred for. They will tolerate some commands, but they are not highly trainable. I have a training collar for mine, but at this point only use the tone, and she responds very well to this. When off-leashing I wanted a way to recall if I lost site of her and I used a gps tracker. She stays within site of me now, so I dropped the gps tracker. Raw chicken will give high amounts of protein and calcium for a growing Kangal, and it helps keep their teeth clean. When my girl goes after an alpha male dog, I found she doesn’t harm them but shows dominance by pinning them to the ground. She pinned a full grown German Shepard once.
What was once a large dog to me is now a medium sized dog next to a Kangal.
E collar training is coming up. Need to get back to off leash training.
@@ashthekangalthat's prolly cause they're not made to be leashed
I had a Fila and was EXTREMELY protective starting at 7 months.
My 3 Italian Mastiffs,Rottweiler and American Bulldog ( over time) were socialized to the 9s.Now the Fila after 7 months the WORST thing i tryed was an E- COLLAR!
each bred is different but even when i made sure he wasn't seeing me shock him,he knew it was me.Your dog as you said when he lost your trust...i think( i could be wrong) will destroy his trust in you?
My Fila was like a loaded gun with the hammer pulled back and a finger on the trigger.
Hope not but just a thought.Love him,so cool.
Man I have been absolutely loving tbese videos and I’m takin in everything you are saying. I have a Kangal breeder near me rn and once I move into a house (in a townhouse right now) I will be purchasing one and training it like you have. I’ve done a bunch of research on these dogs and this is definitely the breed I want to have.
Türk Kangalları ,Evde yetiştirilecek bir Köpek Cinsi değildir. Kangallar çok Zeki ,Bağımsız karar verebilen ve Özgür bir Ruh'a sahip olan bir Köpek cinsidir.
Been waiting for a new video for what feels like agess
A beautiful and smart dog! I have a livestock guardian dog mix and he looks like a slim Kangal with white and grey fur.
I can tell you how instinctive these dogs are: He had an injury and we had a fly in the house. The dog chased it as if it were for his life. When he slept, he always lay on his side where the wound was. Recently we had another really big fly in the house. The dog has no wound. He wasn't interested in the fly. He ignored it completely.
I love how much thought you put into your dog! it's a deep friendship between you and your dog, Isn't it ?Thats the basis for trust. I think the dog will trust you again in all the situations, when HE thinks the time has come;)
Last time, when he was at the vet it was difficult, I lost his trust, too. But, I think I will continue to accompany him and have to show the vet how a dog like that works. I've learned that I have to control the whole process, which doesn't mean letting the vet run his routine. When it comes to this dog, it's better that I guide the dog to do what he's supposed to do and nobody else. He won't listen, he won't care.
What a good looking Dog ,I love Kangals good video ❤️👍
I find you honest in your opinion, and your involvement is nice to see. Every dog, and all species, including humans, deserves respect. The law of the strongest often dictates that strength has a say. This can lead to injustice. We must advocate for respect and equality for all beings.
I have a 15 week young girl, and can attest for how sensitive she is already! I love your videos, they are informative for us being first time owners, and have become a valuable resource along with contact with our breeder and a kangal community. I have so many training questions as we navigate the puppy stage, and love seeing how yours is growing and maturing. You're doing a great job
Thanks you so much. Feel free to ask questions anytime
Beautiful dog.
He is very beautiful and friendly
My Kangal at 5.5 months will be playing off leash and all seems well, she then just switches gears and heads off into nowhere. No matter how much I call out with a happy, playful or angry voice she continues on her beeline to the blue yonder. I now have her on a 25 foot lead when we are out playing in the river or where ever. She walks like a super star in heal mode, but weird behaviour when out in the wild or in a field. Thank god for fences! She exhibits the same behaviour even when she has doggy friends she is playing with. She will break off the play and head off and away.
I grew up with three Kangals, DO NOT GET A SHOCK COLAR. You will turn your pet into a distrustful and aggressive monster and he’ll still ignore you and the collar if there’s a perceived threat.
Definitely not if you use it right. A shock collar is only used on buzz mode to keep their attention 90% of the time and used on shock when they are being truly problematic like trying to attack or run away. When you use a e collar correctly it’s basically just like saying “hey hey focus listen to me” to a child
Nice.. only the very few can handle a live stock guardian breed
I have a big bordercollie at 35kgs. And he got this, every one need to chill and get along attetude. He protects. We were in a dog park with my pupp ones. And a kangal comes and roughly playing with my pup. My oldest came and body blocked them, with a litle lip lift and growl. didnt let the kangal close. And the kangal understood quickly that he needed to be careful with playing. Kangals are realy smart and read a situation very fast i belive.. much love to ash. He is amazing
Hiya all, I think a Kangal's M. O. is that they are put on this earth to serve and protect, be it the homestead or the flog, they are deeply loyal by heart but training them like a normal dog goes against their grain, a grain that's at least 6000 years old, they'll listen and do whatever you want of them, as long as it stands to reason, for instance if you recall him just for the sake of recalling, then after a while he just won't follow thru, he is looking great by the way and forming like a Kangal, the independence trait is what makes them special I think, he'll probably go in search of some she - wolves on heat if you let him on longer walks, all the best from Türkey
Great video I have a mixed Kangal Italian Maremma but the Kangal comes out most through the breed. My male Brando is exactly how your dog is . This is my first LGD I wish I knew about them decades ago . Tx for the info
Strongest dogs ever
I had to put my shepherd/great Pyrenees down a few years ago, still have his niece and those are some incredible dogs. She will not leave my side no matter what. I can tell her to get a squirrel and she can be on its ass and when I snap my fingers she retreats right back to my side. Never seen a better dog for recall. I'm hoping my new kangal pup learns from here and responds just as well. My kangal is 9 weeks old and has been around countless dogs, cats, people, trying to socialize him as much as possible. I'm really looking forward to watching him grow. His parents are both beautiful amazing kangals and it was awesome being around them n I get to experience these incredible dogs myself.
Great dog. Who the hell beat your dog? What is the story there?
türkiyede bırakın sopayla dövmeyi yanına yaklaşamazsınız.birgün sahibi sopayla dövmeye çalışmıştı.o kadar sert vuruyorduki köpek öleceğini anlayınca bir hamlede kolunu kırdı.bunu videodan izlemiştim.
Thank you
İt is about the breed, all Anatolian shepherd dogs are the most sensitive animals you can't imagine!
The horizon is their territory.
How do you get ASH vaccinated ? Annie doesn’t like getting into the truck. Puppy was easy but 1-1/2 years old is a whole different game
No one in the uk with a Kangal has needed a shock collar.
I dont live in a city and we are typically in vast Canadian forest areas. That being said, there are county highways that he has gotten close to and a quick collar call or just voice recall if he is getting close is a sensible thing to avoid stepping on a road and getting killed.
Considering the U.K has no natural predators aside from foxes, why would anyone even need a dog like this there?
Because like every country on earth we are also home to the most dangerous predator on earth, humans. Burglaries, armed robberies, assault, kidnap and increased gang activity are on the rise in even the most idyllic and affluent British suburbs. And some people in semi rural suburbs who have the space and easy rural access prefer calm, independent livestock guardian breeds to the highly energetic and dependent guard breeds like German shepherds, Dobermans and Rottweilers. The UK is also home to Kangal devotees and custodians such as Sheila Reed who have literally travelled to the breed's homeland of Sivas province in Turkiye and spent time with the villagers - who for centuries have bred and guarded their Karabash {Kangal} bloodlines to maintain type, temperament and purity - in order to learn more about this incredible and ancient molossus type. And Kangals are unique amongst livestock guardians for having been bred by the Turkish villagers of Sivas be extraordinarily gentle with women and children whilst also being the fiercest flock guardian of them all. With this unrivalled blend of qualities it should be easy to see why they would be perfectly suited to a family run British wool farm with toddlers and teens running about as opposed to the more temperamental Great Pyrenees or Caucasian shepherd.
Great job! Are you going to breed Ash, or are you going to have him fixed?
Here's my two cents:
To all those saying Ash isn't a Kangal but an Anatolian Shepherd, you're wrong. The FCI & Turkish Kennel Club do not differentiate between the breeds. They are one and the same, with the official name Kangal Sheperd Dog. Within that breed standard (No 331 if you care) there are the coat colour & length variations that used to distinguish between the Kangal and Anatolian breeds.
Thank God someone is bringing this information to the public
I agree. Ash is Kangal. Anatolian Sheppard is a different breed. Anatolians are big and strong and farmers often would have multiple breeds such as Kangals, Anatolians (Malakli), Akbaş, and Alabays to protect the flock. It is interesting to see non-Turks calling all Kangals and Malaklis as Anatolian Sheppards. They are from Anatolia but they are different breed.
Ash is definitely a Kangal, I own one and you can tell the difference in the face…… very different, more streamline and wolfy….
Does this breed need to guard livestock in order to be happy? I like the breed, but I always read that without a very large space and livestock the dog is not a good choice.
Training a kangal, you should remember how they would tame a stallion... Though they are pray/herd animals. Kangals are pack animals. There are certain ways they understand things. Instincts are always heavier. When building up a connection I think it's important to keep all that in mind.
If he was horse, you would make his legs work and wear the stubbornness out of him. Since you can't wear his out, he needs a different approach.
You wanted a marine in your house who won't go to the operations. Now you've gotta be the drill sergeant buddy ;)
Or simply get him a small herd so he wouldn't be confused.
Hi Ash and Ash's Dad,
I am 71. I bred Rotts in the 80's and 90's. 4 litters of pups 50 dogs. I h.ad 6 Rotts that were my personal puppies. Not one has ever engaged in a dog fight. I lived in So. Ca. I never let my dogs go to a dog park. Rotts are like a loaded gun. Your dog is the same. I got my dogs under control thru Obedience training and socialization with people and other dogs. I would not ever go to a dog park with Ash. He is a loaded gun, looking for a spot he couuld go off.
JACK
Sounds like you're overthinking it. I've had so many dogs, and a lot of livestock guardian breeds. Kangals aren't too bad. They all have their own sensibilities, in which I'd say being sensitive is a kangals biggest hurdle to deal with, but they're pretty easy compared to a lot of other livestock guardians. They're not labs, but you can teach them tricks and reasonable recall.
I used an e collar when he was young, and it was ok, but I haven't in years. He's 4 now. They just like to move around, are always alert, always snoutering everything, only listen but so much, and can be frustrating. You'll never get them out of that. It's just what it is.
The instinctual mindset on the Kangal is, where ever you take him, he "claims" that particular zone and the guardian mode kicks in, giving him the need to protect that territory and seeing ANY other "trespasser" he does not recognise as an intruder, but eloquently warns the intruder to go away with animal mannerism, and if he is refused, the Kangal will switch to attack mode to kill or be killed without backing off period.
My Kangal will let friends around the first night at a new place…. For instance our tent/close camping area… but once a night is over, the second day she claims our spot. She is fine the second day, just don’t try and come into our new “home” on the second day…
That dog is really cut underneath his fur. 😂😂 Like built.
Good luck with a e collar. I tried one with my Anatolian Shepard when he was about 8 months old. To no avail he just ignore it.
@@ricktanner4526 I used one for 2 months with very specific training and it worked. I don't need it anymore
My girl weighs probly 110 she's a beast Khalesee the day she turned two she became such a good girl always fun I dependent and my love but just my nocturnal girl very watchful yes monster mad is no joke how they no how to go for the throat and the way they use those legs damn. I don't feel like my dog picks a fight but would protect me her property, her toys and food with other dogs she does share toys sometimes but does demand respect. She turned two in August.
You have to train and reinforce recall with an e-collar/shock collar! Just an uncomfortable sound or a slight shock/vibration while on a long leash and later without leash together with a whistle sound to associate the vibration/'slight shock with the whistle recall sound! (But before he griws too old)
Thank you for the tip. Looks like I will need to get a long leash.
Awesome dog! If you don’t mind me asking, where could I purchase that dog collar from?
Thank you. I made it myself. I will film the making of his new collar shortly.
Also sorry to be commenting so much. The way to deal with the medical stuff is to sedate them. There's no way porcupine quills should be removed while the dog is awake. They really need to be under anesthesia because they'll even break out of some heavy sedation from things like trazodone.
What happened during assault of Ash? Was assault reported?
We made the mistake to never make a report. I wish I did. Too much time has gone by now
I WAS JUST SAYING, BIGGER DOGS ESPECIALLY, 3 OR 4 YEARS OLD IS WHEN U CAN FINALLY SAY WOW, HES NOT SUCH A PAIN IN THE ... YOU CAN'T GIVE UP. I RAISED 4 PITTS AND AM LOOKING AT A KANGAL. HES A GREAT DOG. I THINK YOUR RELAXED FUN IS A WAY OFF. YOU'LL SEE IT.
There is a way for obedience with male Kangals which not everybody would like to go with. He needs to accept your dominance and respect you as if you are his alpha. You could try applying this sense to him by force, and fear. Not much fun in that moment but it could work and bring his full attention to your voice or any gesture because that incident with you will cause him to think deeply bout his communication with you. He will respect you if he feels that you are stronger. Like you said "they are smart" and they do think their way if you don't take the lead. It's a slippery slope to have a Kangal and not have him fully under your control buddy.
They are short fused, there could be a moment where someone will piss him off and you won't be fast enough to get a good grab on him.
I am not suggesting that you beat him up but there are some "body language ways" to show him that you are stronger.
I couldn't disagree more. Force and fear do not work with this breed (or any dog for that matter). The owner needs to be a leader and respected but the best tactics are positive reinforcement and meaningful correction.
As a follow up, these are large powerful dogs. I wouldn't want a fearful dog around my livestock, other dogs, or my family. Fearful dogs make bad decisions that could be disastrous.
@@RobMacivor couldn't disagree more, it's not the point of force n fear its the point that they still are dogs and that's the world and language they live and go by, what you are calling force and fear in their world is called respect and pack leader, he doesn't have to beat or holler at his dog daily but once in a while as all dogs and alphas do they have to snap back with a nip a punning down and a growl to show HE is the leader of the pack and not to forget his place.
@mattewmaxcy, Reread the original post. It suggested applying force and fear. It's not what I call force and fear. I own a Kangal She respects me and I am her pack leader. She doesn't fear me.
@@robertmacivor3786 that's actually exactly what I meant with Males. Read what I wrote carefully man. There are ways of communication with them the way they understand. Like pinning them down on the back while wrestling with them. Or when they do something wrong you give a clear and strong reaction. With your voice mostly or some gestures. This is how they understand that you will not hesitate, and who is the boss. I grew up with Kangals. I was talking about the connection with them males.
The have different characters , and I am glad you have a smart and social female. I had a very large male with a pull force of a horse and he had his full attention given to me if I was asking him to do something. Not because I beat him everyday or something. Simply put, he doesn't fear you, he won't respect you! simple as that. If he feels that he can take you, he wouldn't obey the recalls when I most needed him to. And my neighbors would have shot him dead.
This is a Boz Shepherd dog.
Half Boz half Kangal. Good eyes
Is he still growing?
Hi Ron,
Love your videos.
Don't take Ash too seriously. Kangals are like people; they exhibit general Kangal behavior, but each one is an individual, and sometimes they are right, and sometimes wrong. You said Ash is an awkward teenager, and not just physically. All teens are a pain to live with. Have faith, and patience, and in two more years he will settle down, we hope.
In Feb. 2023 I met a Kangal named Kai whose owner was eager for me to adopt him. Kai was age 7, raised in a large yard in a city, and strictly trained. Kai's owner sent me a protocol on the procedure for our meeting, so detailed, that you could land an army on Omaha Beach on D Day. I should have been warned by that!
Kai promptly bit me. Both Kai's owner and I went home empty handed after hours of driving to our meeting.
Kai was the smartest guy in the room. He didn't want to be adopted, and he won.
I sent Kai's owner a real estate listing for a house in Alaska, and told him that he and Kai would be happier there.
So: Ash isn't a cuddly puppy any more. Think of him as your accountant, or a professional security guard, and negotiate a deal you both can live with,
Earl
Yeah if you hurt his feelings, he holds onto it. But the older he gets, the more "man submitting to another man" vibe rolls in as opposed to " my infallable master ".
Its not you, its mega alpha and mega loyal characteristics within him wrestling it out internally.
YOU NEED A FENCE BROTHER. PERIOD. YOU MUST GET A FENCE. THEY do NOT want to live inside. I promise you that. Mine is full time outdoors and he doesnt even want to come inside. Thats why he runs from you. He has been bred to roam and watch, roam and watch all day and night. Its like an ADHD student sirring in a 13 hour class 7 days a week. He isnt "free" indoors. Its also probably hot for him in the winter because of the heater being on with that super dense coat.
Think about it- at home with a fence, i dont have to regulate his instinctual reaponse to anything--only if we are on a jog or at the vet do i regulate his behavior.
I WOULDNT SHOCK HIM. IVE HEARD IT TAKES MONTHS TO GET THEM TO COME BACK AROUND AFTER A SHOCK. I have a collar too but havent dared use it yet. My other dogs? Yes. My kangal? Nope.
Very important to note: a Kangal is obedient because it loves you. It will never be ovedient because it likes to do tricks. Set expectations on par for an uber-independebntly minded dog that has no desire to do the mundane . If we expect Labrador resukts, we will always be disappointed.
Continued prayer for your family and Ash.
To reiterate, a kangal will never have supreme recall
He's a sensitive soul. I would be careful with the e collar it could turn out to be a disaster with him? Keep trying different techniques. Get advice from other dog handlers. 👍
I don't really want to use it
Don't be afraid to hurt him with a eCollar...
I have one for both of my Kangal brothers and they don't feel anything, I could only use sound and vibration!
Does it work? And how old were they when you started using the eCollar?
They were 13 months old.
I was lucky that the naughtiest brother could feel a little bit of electricity the very first time I tried it.
So now he is careful when he wears the eCollar.
The cool brother never felt electricity but reacted well to the sound and the vibration.
BUT those Kangals are really intelligent so they quickly understood the collars were only working when they are close to me.
So if I let both brothers off leash they exchange a glance and run away 🤬
It wasn't worthless though.
I now walk them on a long leash without them pulling.
I can also free the naughtiest brother while keeping the cool one on long leash, even if it runs after a wild animal he won't go that far.
And the cool guy don't pull on the leash.
Finally, the eCollars helped me.
I must also say I am lucky that none of the brothers have any kind of aggressivity with people or dogs, for the moment.
I must add, that taking two Kangal brothers is much more challenging than taking one!
One is very cool though but the second one is a tricky beast, I am a little anxious to see how he will evolve on his 3 years...
This spring we use an hormonal capsule to cool it down for one year.
The brothers are now 17 months old.
@@pserge73 thank you for this info. I will be sure to get one with a long range.
@Serge Palluel 2 males??? Lol you're brave!! I'm glad that the eCollar worked for something! Yes they're very smart! Good to know to get one with long range! Thank you 😊
Those Kangals in Turkey seem to be a different breed. They are (believe it or not) even bigger, more aggressive, and seem "undomestic"
absolutely You are right.
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@@kemetex3130 Only Anatolian Shepards and one Aksaray Malaklisi (the biggest and meanest one). No Kangals at all. The dog owners want to see how their dogs react to other dogs. They speculate the femle dogs are more aggressive than male dogs. The Aksaray Malaklisi went to same size dog and didn't bother with the other ones he felt was less stronger than himself, showcasing the breeds character. Cool clip and beautiful animals.
I loved all your videos about Ash !!! Can you share on the e-collar?
For sure. I've been doing some training and it's working really well. I will fo a complete breakdown video on what I have been doing step by step
The reason I'm asking I just purchase a Kangal with a breeder in Turkey and it will be shipping my boy to Seattle next week.
@@ashthekangal
@@edgarbonilla6120 Awesome. If I personally were to get another one, I would start around 6 months using one and work on basic recall before hand.
Your dog is a very nice Anatolian shepherd but it unfortunately does not fit the phenotype of a kangal completely. It may have some kangal in him but mostly Anatolian shepherd. His head is typical AS.
@@seyyidi433 Anatolian Shepard is not a breed. It's a name give to a dog that is a mix of 2 or more Turkish livestock dogs. My dog is Kangal/Boz. I suppose because he is a mix it can be a name used to describe him but anatolian shepherd is some some kind of breed
Hello mate, really beautiful dog you got there, I needed some advice as you seem experienced with the breed. I'm building a farm soon where I'll have cattle,sheeps,ducks,chickens etc. and for protection I want to get kangal and caucasian shephered so far i feel 2 kangal and 1 caucasian would be good, obv i won't get all of them together but one by one so i can focus on training a single one properly. What gender composition should i select for these dogs? i was thinking 1 male and 2 females but I've heard that 2 females can be problematic so maybe 2 males but idk. Also we have a golden retreiver female already rn. I would really love to know what you think of this.
To be honest, I don't know how the Caucasian shepherds are as a breed if they act the same as a Kangal or not so I can't really give advice on them. Same goes for a female Kangal. We will be doing a similar set up farm wise in the next 24 months so we will be getting another female maybe this year. I don't know how females act differently just yet so its a question I really cant answer at the moment . If your ok with it, I can post your question on the community posts and see what other can suggest
@@ashthekangal Thanks for the reply. Yes I would love if you can post my question in community post. Btw how many dogs have you had in the past and what breed?
I have a non-working female Kangal, so take this for what it's worth. I can tell you that females are just as much a guardian dog as the males. I've read that the owners of livestock prefer a female with two males, or 2 Kangals and a Great Pyrenes. The theory is that the female or Pyrenes will remain closer to the flock in more of a defensive posture. The male Kangals take a more offensive approach to a threat.
@@RobMacivor okay then seems like ill get 2 males a one female but how do i make sure that the males dont fight over the female? should i neuter the males once they're a bit older
@@Aestheticvybes Again, I'm no expert, only passing on what I've read, but I would think every one should get the snip.
Would it ever be possible to train and trust a Kangal enough to like walk around anywhere no leash with him next to u etc??
Probably not
Brother,God designed these dogs on a mission, there's not much I can put on us 😊
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@@ashthekangal 👍👍
Sorry to say that mate but that dog is not a kangal, its Anatolian Shepherd’s Dog
The dogs were sold to the Americas as Kangal. True Kangal are few and far between and will likely become inbreed in the near future. In all actuality, Kangal are what they are now from mixing many dogs that displayed the Kangal traits over the millenniums. All turk shephard dogs have the same bloodlines. Ash and dogs like him are the natural progression of the breed. You can call the what you like. The Kangal you may think you know is on its way out and a mix of dogs that ironically are all from the same linage are merging again just like their ancestors did and it's the only way forward for the dogs.
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Hey mate, I don’t think you could tell the difference or even understand that there is one.
Do you know of any reputable breeders in the US?
I am not aware of any breeders in the US. Perhaps a community member can answer this for you.
There are a few things that might help you control your dog better: have him walk behind you on a leash and also train a reversal signal on the leash. You can practice this when he tracks down a bird and also on every walk when he wants to go into the bushes on the left and right on the leash. I always click with my mouth and give a little leash impulse. It must become second nature to him to become by your side. He is a dog in the herd, he knows very well how to turn and turn towards his owner. It is a fallacy that such a dog cannot turn back; after all, it circles the herd and shepherds all over the world influence their dogs - also livestock dogs with clicks, hisses and stop signals. But don't think that this easily would also work when running freely ;) These dogs know that you can not longer reach them, without a leach. Maybe, when he is much older. I think you already know.
This dog must think of you in this way: "I will follow". Dont think so much about how to fulfill his life, what is about his genes. He do not have to has a heard to be lucky. He has to have a big garden, with a save fence and he will control his home and lay down an observe. On the walks, he could be always at leash. Why not? These dogs walks in the tempo of a herd an this is very slow. So a short or longer leash will be right for this dog.
And notice, wherever he has been two or three times, he will consider that his territory. Here, where I walk in the forest, I avoid all people and dogs and keep the necessary distance. Also use the reversal process I mentioned, or wait at a distance with my dog sitting next to me and watching.
Is this a Kangal or an Anatolian Shepherd?
Kangals have more squared heads and more compact powerful features. Anatolian Shepards have streamlined head and usually taller and doesn't appear as compact as Kangals. But the physical features really all depends on the specimen. Both are great dogs, but I believe Anatolian Shepards are a bit more user friendly than Kangals in most situations.
Our 7 month Kangal is exactly the same. Knows his training, but only does what he’s told when he wants. Ours are a also scary when he decides to have a crack at other animals that annoy him.
How was it assaulted and how was it even possible one should ask -!??
kangala yaklaşamazsınız.dövme olayını bende anlamadım.türkiyede bir video izledim.adam sopayla dövmeye kalktı kangalı kolunu kırdı bir ısırışta...
Just give him a huge bone that will solve the trust issue
I would be careful with a shock collar if there are trust issues. It could cause more problems.
mine is around 16 months and not aggressive at all unfortunately, love her so much tho and a great dog
How do you know she's not agressive? Does she submit with dogs attacking?
He is still big puppy.
they very special but girls are more easy . they king , nothing compere to them
Agreed. We might get a female in the near future
you're talking about all the great traits of these dogs to be independent and instinctive and trusting, and then go on talking about getting a shock collar to train him?? Just accept the nature of these dogs they are the way they are for a reason...
it is an anatolian, not a kangal at all
I am from Mississauga Ontario, Canada and have a 1year 3 month old female Kangal. Would you be interested in mating Ash?
If you want to connect with me further please contact me at ashthekangal@gmail.com
If that dog let another stranger beat on him that’s a problem
It only happened once
Why I am saying this is not a Kangal dog . Anatolian stepherd dogs. They are much bigger and heavier than kangal. And your dog 100% is a Anatolian shepherd dog. This is not a bad thing, but you need to know what is real KANGAL.
I already know that. He is Kangal/Boz
Oh no. What do you mean somebody assaulted him? That is awful
One of our neighbour's did it. My neighbours are dicks as you would say it. It changed my boy completely.
@@ashthekangal are you going to press charges or is it not provable in terms of the law?
@@peterwreford1520 this incident has weighed on me and my wife for awhile. It broke my heart that someone would hurt my boy because of his size. We realized that people watch videos about this breed and conclude that all of them are aggressive and weapons against all. This is why my wife and I decided to start our channel. People should know these breeds are sensitive, loyal and loving animals.
@@ashthekangal eğer böyle birşeyi Türkiyede yapsa birisi katliam çıkar. biri benim kangalımı dövücek? ha oğlumu dövmüş ha kangalımı.
@@ashthekangal what did your neighbour do ?
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Takes me a doubt since you've had it since its first months of life: most of the videos we see here on YT .. Kangal's have a scary appearance, right? With cropped ears to make them more imposing... however, I tried to get away from these videos, and looked for "normal" Kangal owners.. who leave the dog's appearance as it should be. THE QUESTION THAT REMAINS: How is his behavior at home? With family members.. we know he is a watchdog! But what about the people of a future home? Coexistence in a good way?
The behaviour of the kangal will depend on his training, its owners expectations, the lifestyle, socialization and genetics. Mine behaves very well with family members including extended family if he was familiar with them from his puppy days. He is more protective of females and young ones. Ash is also protective over dogs he is around often who have submitted to him as the boss. He will correct bad behaviours when new dogs are aggressive towards him and will not be the first to bite. I hope I have answered some of your questions.
@@ashthekangal Yes yes.. thanks for your feedback!
shock collars belong in the rubbish bin. you have no clue about the breed. all the points you make about his behaviour, that's kangal behaviour.
You must be a kangal owner and not someone who watches videos and thinks they know the dogs.
They are independent thinkers. They need a job. They need another dog. Their genetics are not good to train as a pet. They are working dogs that need large areas to protect. Anything else is abuse with this breed. In my opinion.
Sorry... But continuing to be a dick... Here's another tip: Do not let him around other dogs without a pinch collar on and of course that pinch collar being attached to the leash you're holding. When they go into as you call it monster mode you need to be very careful if you try and interfere with whatever he's doing. They can snap at anyone and anything around them when they are in that state. The key is to learn how to manage that state and keep anything that may be hurt away from them at that time. My dogs interact with me, their livestock, and predators. That is it. I don't want them around other dogs and other people off the farm
Haha Sorry to be a dick but I told you so
It's not kangal
What do you mean someone beat him up outside of your house? He's a massive beast, who in their right mind tried him?
Unfortunately there are people who see large dogs as a threat to people. Kangals are not bred to be aggressive towards people. I don't know exactly what happened outside of the tracks that I was able to follow in the snow and the injuries my dog returned home with. Some person saw Ash as a threat when he was 10 months old and thought he would teach him a lesson. They took him off leash, lured him to a dark area on my road and beat him up. This all happened within 30 minutes of me going inside my home to get his leash for a walk. Kangals are very large and powerful dogs but they are very gentle to people. Most people think they will attack people but they won't.
Please don't call him as a dog! Kangal could be your sun or best friend. If you treat him as a dog you make a big mistake. Because they are most intelligent and independent and most handsome guys around!
Yes, my boy is a loyal friend. Most wouldn't believe a kangal is very sensitive too.
bunların yaptığı en büyük hata kangalı normal bir kopek gibi eğitmek ve ondan normal bir kopek davranışı bekelemek. bu yüzden triplere giriyorlar. bir aslanı nasıl evcilleştiremezsen kangalı da evcilleştiremezsin. hergün gezdiricek vaktin yoksa yada salabileceğin dağ bayır yoksa niye kangal alırsın? kangal dan kuzu gibi olmasını bekliyorlar.
Hello my friend this is not a kangal. I am from Turkey and you can trust me. This is Anatolian stepherd dog. I don’t know how you buy this dog, but this dog not kangal.
If you want, I can show you how real original Kangal dogs looks like. If you have Instagram, I can send you a message and I can show real pictures of real KANGAL’s thank you.
salak salak yorum yapma. sahibi de biliyor ash in kangal boz kırması olduğunu. kaldıki boz da çok iyi kopektir. bence çok güzel bir köpek ash.
He knows. His dog is a Kangal/Boz