This would be really satisfying to watch. I've seen so many people saying things like "oh I'm lower rated but I'm really good *for my rating*." Like no you're not, if you were better than your rating, your rating would be higher
@@jar5498 Theres lots of games like valorant that being in a lower rated elo while deserving a higher 1 is common. But in chess its impossible cause as you said, you would be higher elo already.
Chess is like Rocket League. You still have whiffs and bad games at high level, but they're rare and something to laugh about, not constant sources of frustration. Consistency is key
This might just be me, but every video I watch, there's a 1 second period at 0:00 where Levy's AI realizes its recording then activates 'Radio Personality 31-A'
I played a guy who was playing so cowardly he was up a rook, it was a queen/rook vs queen/2rooks endgame (and some pawns) and he literally had my king in the corner defended by my queen and he kept checking me and instead of trading queens the game ended a draw by repetition from him checking me and me offering the queen trade but him refusing 🤦🏽♂️
11:38 I like it this way! It shows me whether you are showing a hypothetical line or what actually got played. Sometimes (in earlier videos) I've assumed you were showing a hypothetical line and it eventually turns out it was the actual game. With the clocks resetting I needn't make that mistake.
Would be easier if it wasn't buried in small print. While demonstration on a board can't, this graphic display should have a highly visible indication so viewers don't have to take their eyes off the pieces being moved. As a computer professional, I would suggest moving discolored pieces (red/blue) while ghostly outlines stay in the real positions (pieces in original positions remain original color).
Question for the community- I’m new at playing ranked chess and am only a 550 ELO with a 50/50 win/loss ratio against real opponents, but I can regularly beat a 1200 ELO computer 75/80% of the time. The question is wha gives? Lol. Do engines and people (especially at low ranks) just play differently? Are engines just more predictable? I appreciate the channel, and have learned a lot from Gotham, so thanks for the help
What I’ve found is that bots will play a decent op and then as long as you survive in the opening the Ai just self destructs at 1200 and will start hanging pieces in ways that a normal person just wouldn’t do. Real people usually end up blundering in a more discreet kind of way making it easy for you to miss capitalizing on, which leads to a closer game. This is at least how it comes across for me as someone who used to like only play the Ludwig bot.
Yeah bots don't play like humans. It's very hard to program a bot to "play badly" like humans do, so lower rated bots are programmed to make bad moves randomly every once in a while. Humans don't really think like that, their play gets worse when a position is complicated or they're under pressure and their mistakes are more understandable. You can stall vs a lower rated engine and just wait for it to blunder something obvious. So really if you want to get good at chess, you should play against humans
Not all Bots are the same but generaly speaking bots play perfect until they blunder on purpose. some bots are also rubberbanding whitch means they play better when you are ahead and worse when you are behind.
@@RedScotland It's literally impossible to beat the hardest computer, playing frequently against it won't help too much since you'll never see your progress (and it's demoralising). Just play humans and review the game using the engine later
Dads often seem to be uncannily good at chess with virtually no principled openings, no studying chess at all, just a somehow genius brain. Mine is the same way
@Jimmy This is a little off-topic, but Anna Cramling posted a street chess vid where this old guy almost beat her by bringing out the queen very early and moving mostly the queen for the rest of the game. In her analysis, he did have the winning position several times, I think. Broke major principles and still almost beat a high rated player, ha ha.
Hello! Great commentary as always. I just have a quick question as a new member of this community. How do I send games and how do I hide the names and elo rating for a hypothetical guess the elo episode? Thank you in advance!
@@ninasarac8052 Yeah, also he records his GTE's live so it's not like the channel randomly opens up. Forgot to add it in the other comment so I might just add it here fyi 😂
1:33 Levy, you keep mispronouncing this name. It's "Alekhin", not "Alyokhin". The Wikipedia page says that Alekhine was quite unhappy with his countrymen who made the same mistake, which is why he opted to write his name in French as "Alekhine" so that there wouldn't be any ambiguity.
Well I believe how Levy says it is at least close to how the actual Russian name is pronounced (I've heard ye-khin instead of yo-khin too). Where can I read about him preferring the ala-khine pronounciation?
@@siddharthamishra1999 no, those guys are right) Reading "Alehin" as Levy did is usual for those who speak Russian, cause substituting "е" with "ё" (pronounced "yo") in that position is kinda natural for the language. But Alehin himself read it otherwise) There are a lot of sources in Russian, one can start from the links in the beginning of the wiki page ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Алехин,_Александр_Александрович
@@siddharthamishra1999 Note 1 on his Wikipedia page says: "He became angry when Russians sometimes pronounced the ⟨е⟩ ye of Alekhin as ⟨ё⟩ yo, [ɐˈlʲoxʲɪn], which he regarded as a Yiddish distortion of his name, and insisted that the correct Russian pronunciation was "Al-YEH-khin"." It also provides an external source for this information.
2:40 100% black was thinking "If Knight to F7 forks queen and rook, bishop could capture instead of king and I don't forfeit the right to castle." That's what I would think and why I didn't see it as a bad move at first...but I'm certainly not rated 2,000. =P
na its like 20x more likely that it was either a misclick and the pawn was supposed to go to that square or he was just overprotecting his pony in case of qf3/bc4
If you think of a chess game as a set of chess puzzles posed by each player, then the reality is that it should not be surprising that these guys had a lot of mistakes. I am about 2200 rapid. If I play against say a 1500 player, my entire analysis looks like I am a chess engine with over 90% accuracy and like 20 centipawn loss max. If I play against a 2100, because they are basically as good as me, I look much worse because the "puzzles" that they set are much harder - they anticipate my moves much more and hence I am much more likely to make a mistake. If I play against a 2500, they will look like they play like a computer with 90% plus accuracy and I look like I was a 500 player because their puzzles are much harder ...
Hi Levy, Just wanted to say thank you for your content, and i love your video on the Traxler counter Attack, i won so many games with it. Love from Germany.
Even Magnus Carlson makes the occasional blunder. Don't beat yourself up over it. Just recognize the mistake and learn from it so you play better next time.
2:40 I am an Alekhine player and the engine loves that bishop move in some positions where the knight is on e5, obviously not here, but easy to see why they did it
Yo Gotham, what’s your favorite opening to play? I’m pretty interested in chess, but I don’t play it too much, and I wanted to experiment with different opening to see what I like best.
Why hello there everyone. It's me, the goose, once again. If you missed the other classes, I'll do a recap. I see GothamChess I click, and so should you. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
2:30 as a 1300 player in rapid, i think the reason for bishop to e6 was to defend the pawn on f7 that would have been a queen and rook fork, and if you took the forking knight with the king, you would have lost the right to castle
Well saccing a piece to make your opponent lose castling rights is rarely worth it and certainly not here. You don't need to defend "fork" that would just end up you winning a piece.
Yo Levy. I really enjoy ur videos and u r a great guide too for the beginners. But it would be awesome if u gt the GM title and trust me we all root for u.
The ridiculous clickbait, while perhaps bringing in new viewers in the short term, is undeniably pushing your long term viewers such as myself, away. It just keeps getting worse and worse.
This game was so bizzare that when Levy pointed to the blinds saying "They're already calling the cops, I'm sure you guys can see that", I did indeed see the cops.
At 2:30 if white is going to play Nxf7 what could black do on the previous move to prevent having to do Kxf7 and losing the ability to castle or is it too late at this point?
I play rapid, and i learned something. If you have less time then your oppenent, you are losing. If you have way less time then your oppenent, the evaluation bar is full on one side.
Still waiting for Gotham to make a series where he coaches a 400 and sees how quickly he can take him up to a 1500
yes
@gothamchess do this!
@Correct omg i hate u and all of ur kind
@Correct can you explain what exactly stuff he’s spraying?
I'm 1300, i could also use another 1100 elo
Please someone buy a bottle for Levy...
Man is drinking from a flower pot
Let's raise money for him
Reduce Reuse Recycle! 😃
Let it happen.
Could be worse. The flower could still be in there.
It's like when you used rice water to water plants, but he's using that water he used to water the plants as his drinking water.
"Stop playing chess" thanks Levy, I needed this.
You have been stuck in 1100 for a year. Lesson: Don't try again
@@jelvi6725 😭
Update: It's called "Please make it stop" now
@@B0wser998 that's even better
But Levy still somehow has the right to call our games "diarrhea"
Levy in 2022 - How to improve your chess
Levy in 2023 - Stop playing chess
Levy in 2024 - Stop thinking about chess
Gets arrested in 2025
@@vinesworth gets out of prison in 2035 and uploads a video called just “stop”
2026:
Levy in 2025 - Stop chess
Levy in 2026 - Stop
Levy in 2027 -
2024 here, agreed and accurate
Bold of you to assume these are noticeable mistakes under 2000
6:20 Taking space is when my opponent pushes pawns; overextending is when I push pawns
And when the opponent loses all their pawns and I find myself having a better position, I am wondering how I did it. Not replicable.
This video made me think that Gotham is catching me breathing oxygen for no reason
@Correct no thx I cannot be baited
u should do a challenge where u get a lower rated played that thinks they deserve a certain elo and make them play a best of 3 against that elo
Actually that sounds like it would be so fun! (If ppl are real about it and not trolling, which could also happen ez)
This would be really satisfying to watch. I've seen so many people saying things like "oh I'm lower rated but I'm really good *for my rating*."
Like no you're not, if you were better than your rating, your rating would be higher
I think this is a great idea. It's a super popular idea in lots of video games so might get picked up by the algorithm like crazy too!
@Gothamchess
@@jar5498 Theres lots of games like valorant that being in a lower rated elo while deserving a higher 1 is common. But in chess its impossible cause as you said, you would be higher elo already.
You and Hikaru should each get a player rated 600 or less and give them 2 weeks of free lessons and see which one wins
they kind of did with the pogchamp tournament and it ended horribly hilarious
What about Levy and Magnus?
@@solifa1 Magnus isn't really the best teacher ngl.
@@thanosnoctem4473”So the rule of the square is, well… IDK what the rule of the square is.” -The man himself
hikaru would tell his apprentice horrid advice on purpose and then not tell him until after the fact
you know its a bad game when levy says "so far so good" 4 moves into the game
I love the addition of the clock, makes it so you can understand the players time situation and relate that to their moves.
Chess is like Rocket League. You still have whiffs and bad games at high level, but they're rare and something to laugh about, not constant sources of frustration. Consistency is key
Don't see how Rocket League in specific is relevant, in all games you make mistakes, and that is not unique to one specific one
@@razvanthethief dude, he just picked rocket league as the example. No big deal
@@tay7412 His choice is unacceptable. Should have picked Dota 2.
This is rocket league. What's your rank in rocket league
Chess is like curling. The more you practice the better you become.
Levy staring at my soul at the beginning is far scarier than anything I saw
Same
Everyone that thinks gotham should coach a 400 rated player and get him to 1500 like this comment
"You should never feel bad about your terrible chess. Because it's never getting better, only worse!"
Thanks Levy! Very Inspirational! Good talk! lol
"Mom can I have a 2000 rating"
"You have 2000 rating at home"
2000 rating at home
Lol
Lol
Me: *gets drunk and plays chess all night*
*Next day Gotham releases a video*
Me: *nervous whiskey sweats*
This might just be me, but every video I watch, there's a 1 second period at 0:00 where Levy's AI realizes its recording then activates 'Radio Personality 31-A'
I played a guy who was playing so cowardly he was up a rook, it was a queen/rook vs queen/2rooks endgame (and some pawns) and he literally had my king in the corner defended by my queen and he kept checking me and instead of trading queens the game ended a draw by repetition from him checking me and me offering the queen trade but him refusing 🤦🏽♂️
u got lucky there, he could have simplified and won
"Black should be developing the bee-ship"
- Gotham Chess
11:38 I like it this way! It shows me whether you are showing a hypothetical line or what actually got played. Sometimes (in earlier videos) I've assumed you were showing a hypothetical line and it eventually turns out it was the actual game. With the clocks resetting I needn't make that mistake.
Would be easier if it wasn't buried in small print. While demonstration on a board can't, this graphic display should have a highly visible indication so viewers don't have to take their eyes off the pieces being moved. As a computer professional, I would suggest moving discolored pieces (red/blue) while ghostly outlines stay in the real positions (pieces in original positions remain original color).
Yeah, but you'd think they'd set it to say "--:--" or something.
Question for the community- I’m new at playing ranked chess and am only a 550 ELO with a 50/50 win/loss ratio against real opponents, but I can regularly beat a 1200 ELO computer 75/80% of the time. The question is wha gives? Lol. Do engines and people (especially at low ranks) just play differently? Are engines just more predictable? I appreciate the channel, and have learned a lot from Gotham, so thanks for the help
What I’ve found is that bots will play a decent op and then as long as you survive in the opening the Ai just self destructs at 1200 and will start hanging pieces in ways that a normal person just wouldn’t do. Real people usually end up blundering in a more discreet kind of way making it easy for you to miss capitalizing on, which leads to a closer game. This is at least how it comes across for me as someone who used to like only play the Ludwig bot.
Yeah bots don't play like humans. It's very hard to program a bot to "play badly" like humans do, so lower rated bots are programmed to make bad moves randomly every once in a while. Humans don't really think like that, their play gets worse when a position is complicated or they're under pressure and their mistakes are more understandable. You can stall vs a lower rated engine and just wait for it to blunder something obvious. So really if you want to get good at chess, you should play against humans
bots do not play like humans at all. make sure to play a couple 10-20 minute games against real people every day
Not all Bots are the same but generaly speaking bots play perfect until they blunder on purpose. some bots are also rubberbanding whitch means they play better when you are ahead and worse when you are behind.
@@RedScotland It's literally impossible to beat the hardest computer, playing frequently against it won't help too much since you'll never see your progress (and it's demoralising). Just play humans and review the game using the engine later
I can't stop , i like to suffer
I have no clue how my dad has a higher rating, his signature moves are a3 and h3 on the first turns, and always bishop takes knight
He trades in his bishops for knights and wins?
@@rdr6269 it works better at lower elos because your opponents have Knight fork blind spots
Dads often seem to be uncannily good at chess with virtually no principled openings, no studying chess at all, just a somehow genius brain. Mine is the same way
@Jimmy This is a little off-topic, but Anna Cramling posted a street chess vid where this old guy almost beat her by bringing out the queen very early and moving mostly the queen for the rest of the game. In her analysis, he did have the winning position several times, I think. Broke major principles and still almost beat a high rated player, ha ha.
My Balkan dad does the same he is 700 Elo. So I guess you are not alone 😅
I guarantee you both of those guys finished that game and were like "welp, that's enough chess for today..."
Chess is by far my favorite board game
Also I would love to join a chess club to learn how to be better
Join one then
You’ll regret not joining one
@@chelbez I can't tell if it's sarcasm or not...
@@chelbez har har har very funny
I usually play chess every Monday at a coffee shop, although it's not a chess club none of us are 2000-rated players.
@@chelbezI care
Me: I want 2000 elo games
Mom: we have 2000 elo games at home
2000 elo games at home:
Hello! Great commentary as always. I just have a quick question as a new member of this community. How do I send games and how do I hide the names and elo rating for a hypothetical guess the elo episode? Thank you in advance!
New too. I assume some patreon kinda thing? I think he hides the names himself.
@@perside2455 as in subbed to him on twitch?
@@ninasarac8052 Yeah, also he records his GTE's live so it's not like the channel randomly opens up. Forgot to add it in the other comment so I might just add it here fyi 😂
@@perside2455 If he hides the names himself doesn't he see the elo ratings in the process? Thanks btw.
@@error__music he has mods who do that
1:33 Levy, you keep mispronouncing this name. It's "Alekhin", not "Alyokhin". The Wikipedia page says that Alekhine was quite unhappy with his countrymen who made the same mistake, which is why he opted to write his name in French as "Alekhine" so that there wouldn't be any ambiguity.
exactly, I caught the exact same thing, pronunciation of Alekhine by Levy terrible
@@MaRmAn1337 Glad someone else was noticing as well :)
Well I believe how Levy says it is at least close to how the actual Russian name is pronounced (I've heard ye-khin instead of yo-khin too). Where can I read about him preferring the ala-khine pronounciation?
@@siddharthamishra1999 no, those guys are right) Reading "Alehin" as Levy did is usual for those who speak Russian, cause substituting "е" with "ё" (pronounced "yo") in that position is kinda natural for the language. But Alehin himself read it otherwise)
There are a lot of sources in Russian, one can start from the links in the beginning of the wiki page
ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Алехин,_Александр_Александрович
@@siddharthamishra1999 Note 1 on his Wikipedia page says: "He became angry when Russians sometimes pronounced the ⟨е⟩ ye of Alekhin as ⟨ё⟩ yo, [ɐˈlʲoxʲɪn], which he regarded as a Yiddish distortion of his name, and insisted that the correct Russian pronunciation was "Al-YEH-khin"." It also provides an external source for this information.
2:40 100% black was thinking "If Knight to F7 forks queen and rook, bishop could capture instead of king and I don't forfeit the right to castle." That's what I would think and why I didn't see it as a bad move at first...but I'm certainly not rated 2,000. =P
na its like 20x more likely that it was either a misclick and the pawn was supposed to go to that square or he was just overprotecting his pony in case of qf3/bc4
@@frostypotatos180 pony?
@@Ulaanbasaar smol hors
Start coaching 100 elo players and see how long it takes you to get them to 1500
Levy earlier- How to improve at chess
Levy now- Stop playing chess
5:02 "I apologize, I clicked the forward button" LOL
If you think of a chess game as a set of chess puzzles posed by each player, then the reality is that it should not be surprising that these guys had a lot of mistakes.
I am about 2200 rapid. If I play against say a 1500 player, my entire analysis looks like I am a chess engine with over 90% accuracy and like 20 centipawn loss max.
If I play against a 2100, because they are basically as good as me, I look much worse because the "puzzles" that they set are much harder - they anticipate my moves much more and hence I am much more likely to make a mistake.
If I play against a 2500, they will look like they play like a computer with 90% plus accuracy and I look like I was a 500 player because their puzzles are much harder ...
They be like : hello i m playing on my brother's account
My accuracy is in the 10s 😂😂
11:08 What’s stopping bishop g3 from snagging the queen?
The black queen just takes the white queen and its a check on the white king which also looses the bishop, basically gg.
Bishop g3 is a blunder. If Bg3+ then Qxe3+
@@sriramkrishna45Makes sense. Thanks 👏🏻
I love the clocks can you always do that? It kinda adds context to the game.
13:01 rxe5+, qxe5, re3 skewers with
queen on h6 defends the rook on e3 and you win material right?
I’m 400 elo and this is deep
The easy rule is that it’s overextending if I do it and taking space when GMs do it
Hi Levy, Just wanted to say thank you for your content, and i love your video on the Traxler counter Attack, i won so many games with it. Love from Germany.
Yeh
BRO I EVEN SAW THAT CHECKMATE AND IM 700 RATED omg
I think at 11:05 it would be best to move the bishop in front of the rook so there is a check and take the queen
Agreed, I saw that too! But Levi was commenting a lot on the game so can’t really blame him for missing one, admittedly really good, move.
@@Stonks1957I think they meant Bd4+, resulting in a queen trade.
Should have been a Guess the elo submission.
You need to try playing the cat bots, especially mittens.
I thought I was the only one (0-5)
Tip for 3 digit players:
Stop resigning. How many games has resigning made you lose? In 3 digit elo anything can happen so don’t resign.
Even Magnus Carlson makes the occasional blunder. Don't beat yourself up over it. Just recognize the mistake and learn from it so you play better next time.
Carlos Magsen
nah.. im gonna keep reviewing winning games so i get more compliments
@@nicolasderra3888 how helpful. Touch some grass
2:40 I am an Alekhine player and the engine loves that bishop move in some positions where the knight is on e5, obviously not here, but easy to see why they did it
Please make it stop 💀
Me as 1900 had similarly bad game. Like if two drunk babies was playing And i was like i should definitely submit it but i see someone did it better
6:09; I dont know the difference in its entirety.
but I like to believe that there is some intuition that goes off saying "this is enough".
Dang would have made a wonderful GTE
that was only a slightly bad game even for 2100 chess...
Glad to see the return of the soul stealing stare at the beginning lately.
I want a video that's a full minute of staring in silence, before beginning the video like nothing happened
Scandinavian defends and two knights study are missing from e4 on your chesslly please Gotham fix this!!!
i dont play chess i just watch you cause funny
Beat the new cat bots. theres no way you can beat mittens.
The levy stare at the beginning is legendary
6:12 "How many of you know the difference of taking space and overextanding?"
Me an Europa Universalis player: YES
Yo Gotham, what’s your favorite opening to play? I’m pretty interested in chess, but I don’t play it too much, and I wanted to experiment with different opening to see what I like best.
Try the london xd
If I remember right, he recently said the Spanish
He likes the caro kann the most
Caro-Kann is his fav (said in a variety of vids)
Hi
As a 2100, I can confirm this
16:59 they are not as bad as you
I literally stopped playing chess last year
Why hello there everyone. It's me, the goose, once again. If you missed the other classes, I'll do a recap. I see GothamChess I click, and so should you. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
Thank you the one and only wise goose 🦆
You're truly the GOOSE
im not into chess content though
@@biharek7595 he's a fraud and a charlatan
3:16 *Levy:* "what the heck is black doing with the bishop right here?!" *Me:* "What the heck is Levy doing with that flower vase right there?!"
2:30 as a 1300 player in rapid, i think the reason for bishop to e6 was to defend the pawn on f7 that would have been a queen and rook fork, and if you took the forking knight with the king, you would have lost the right to castle
Well saccing a piece to make your opponent lose castling rights is rarely worth it and certainly not here. You don't need to defend "fork" that would just end up you winning a piece.
whenever I feel insecure about my ELO, I remember that higher rated players can be just as irresponsible as lower rated ones. Thanks Levy.
Yo Levy. I really enjoy ur videos and u r a great guide too for the beginners. But it would be awesome if u gt the GM title and trust me we all root for u.
Pretty clear he's not going to get a GM title. And who cares, he's a good teacher regardless of titles.
He retired from over the board chess in case you didn’t know
ya, he said it just wasn’t fun for him anymore and it became more stress than it was worth, the video is called something like “I’m quitting chess”
I remember i used to always chase down my opponents' bishops that come close to me, but now if they don't retreat back, i just leave them
Well it's 12:00AM here, who cares? Who doesn't want to laugh and enjoy the game?✨
The death stare before the video started was extra devious today
7:30 Bishop takes on B7 would have been a free Queen if Faren takes back with Queen
Oh well he acknowledged it the next move 🤷
C7*
Can't wait to see people point out that it's clickbait, and that 10000 blunders is impossible
Yes! There’s hope for me yet to be a 2000!
That stare into the soul at the beginning was missed
the stare he gives at the start of the video
**Someone makes a blunder**
Levy: 0 Elo chess
did he just drink from a vase 3:20
"They are not as bad as you" that hurt Levi:)
If Levy pins this, I will make 10,001 blunders
this has been shadow pinned
At 4:10 shouldn't you have taken back with the queen to protect against g4 trapping the bishop?
The ridiculous clickbait, while perhaps bringing in new viewers in the short term, is undeniably pushing your long term viewers such as myself, away. It just keeps getting worse and worse.
This game was so bizzare that when Levy pointed to the blinds saying "They're already calling the cops, I'm sure you guys can see that", I did indeed see the cops.
I like playing chess but if Levy tells me to stop, it's over. Thanks everyone, it's been real.
"the computer thinks Bc5 is better"
" *but the computer is a scumbag* "
- Levy 2023
The eval bar was having the ride of the century.
'complete destabilizes the knight, which already has no stability'
he's drinking out of the plants vase, poor plants.
0:29 me knowing that I, a 450 elo, can be better than some people
5:06 "Sorry I clicked the forward button" 💀💀💀💀😂😂
i played a 700 rated bot. 5 mistakes, 15 blunders, 5 missed wins
These how to lose at chess videos are always so funny 🤣
3:24 “and now where here” pulls out a vase to drink out of
I developed a new kink I really did not see coming which is Levy shittalking my chess skills.
"they're not bad as you" dang that hurt a little bit
I love how Levy thinks about how it’s audience feels and what they’re thinking…truly genius
At 2:30 if white is going to play Nxf7 what could black do on the previous move to prevent having to do Kxf7 and losing the ability to castle or is it too late at this point?
I play rapid, and i learned something. If you have less time then your oppenent, you are losing. If you have way less time then your oppenent, the evaluation bar is full on one side.
I read the title saying stop playing chess then when I clicked on it it said please have it stop.