Thanks Upflip for this collaboration. Paul was an amazing host, you guys did a really professional job of telling the story. We are really impressed with your model as well and your young and entrepreneurial founder Nikita - you guys should profile yourselves!
My biggest worry/question is there diet. I want a healthy feed for my pigs when I get them and what should that consist of? Organic. I don’t wanna buy from a store I wanna look for the ingredients with other farmers and mix it myself
@@wantedxx7 idk why no one answered your question but I agree. I feel that this farm like any, does not capitalize on the land that they have in order to feed the pigs. With rotational grazing on alllllll that land they could cut their substitutional feed down by a whole lot and even be able to market it as pasture raised
It's nice to hear from someone else in the Pacific Northwest. I just bought 88 acres of sagebrush and cheatgrass in eastern Oregon to raise pigs and just be me. I have dreamed of owning my own property for my whole life. The acreage is paid for and I have 1 pregnant pig. Stay tuned to see how Pleasant Valley Pork evolves.
I saw a photo once of a fire in cheat grass range that stopped at a perfect right angle because of a barb wire fence. On the non burned side of the fence a good grazier had improved the land so that it was populated with perennial grasses and no longer dominated by annual cheat grass.
Congratulations, I remember my first litter. That was a long time ago but will Never forget. Right now I am working on a special breed for Colorado since it’s very hard to get Idaho pasture pigs here and when they have them they are way expensive. So I started with half a dozen breeders 5 sows and one boar. I’ve had 3 litters with one more coming any day. Then the others should all be bred again which is going to be tough having pigs in late October and November but most of those will be for my first shares. Minus the few choice animals I keep for breeding stock. My next purchase is going to be a male Kune Kune as my female has had a great first litter and I’ve saved 1 of them to breed to a male Kune these pigs will be Kune Kune x2 x, Hampshire x duroc mix. I’ve had great luck with the Hampshire and duroc before here. Good luck on you new farm and if you ever have any questions feel free to HMU. Tommysanfilippo@hotmail.com
@@UpFlip One of the piglet died. I learned my lesson! If they seem not quite right, take them out and make sure they're warm and ok. I sold 4 of the remaining 6 as weaners and am raising the last two over the winter. One is sold as a butcher hog when he is ready in March. The other is still up for sale or we will butcher him for our freezer. Meanwhile, we moved them to a different pasture with more room and Mama pig went to visit Boris the boar. This week we'll see if she comes in heat or got bred. Fingers crossed for another litter in late February/early March.
as a 65 yo in London UK jelous city slicker , I was thrilled and excited with this most excellent pig farm , full of good hard honest work and a wealth of knowledge and untold inspiration , hats off to these 2 rich farmers and a bunch of positive comment
I remember when I graduated from hs and told my friends and family I wanted a farm and everyone laughed and made fun of me. Glad to see I wasn’t crazy.
Am from Tanzania, A state resides in Eastern part of Africa.. You guys Oooh made my day. Everyone who wants to start livestock farming should see this interview. Very helpful. I think everyone should learn to start small GOD BLESS YOU
We really appreciate that Edward. 😀Thanks so much for watching and commenting on the video. We're so glad that it was helpful. Will you have the same type of livestock on your farm?
Animal farmers are animal abusers. Pigs are as smart and aware as 3 year old children. This isn’t the food chain, it’s normalized violence to animals. Watch dominion on UA-cam
My family doing the same, starting last year with 10 pigs, we learned alot about the feeding and care. This year we started with 2 breeders and another 15 pigs, we appling all we learned the last year, and our goal is to takecare of them until 6 months and reach 90 - 100 kg. per pig. We have 20 hectares and is kinda difficult to us to expand or grow because we don't have the machinery but we doing it.
Animal farmers are animal abusers. Pigs are as smart and aware as 3 year old children. This isn’t the food chain, it’s normalized violence to animals. Watch dominion on UA-cam
I LOVE their vision to KEEP their farm in farming and land use instead of taking the development check to retire on. That is so indescribably admirable and important
I am raise registered Red Wattled hogs. I live on a 1880's homestead that I bought. My hogs run out of the old bank barn onto pasture. I registered the best out of each litter, sell feeder pigs, and then feed out the rest to whole, halves, and then cuts in vacuum packs. We also have chickens and a large garden. You have an awesome farm and business and I love the growth into the diversity.
Animal farmers are animal abusers. Pigs are as smart and aware as 3 year old children. This isn’t the food chain, it’s normalized violence to animals. Watch dominion on UA-cam
As a teacher of over 20 years, i would highly recommended homeschooling your children!! Teaching them to do what you are doing is WAY more advantageous than "socializing" them to a damaged lazy society.
Animal cruelty is amazing?😢 Animal farmers are animal abusers. Pigs are as smart and aware as 3 year old children. This isn’t the food chain, it’s normalized violence to animals. Watch dominion on UA-cam
Animal farmers are animal abusers. Pigs are as smart and aware as 3 year old children. This isn’t the food chain, it’s normalized violence to animals. Watch dominion on UA-cam
Why are you happy about mass murdering baby animals? 😢 Animal farmers are animal abusers. Pigs are as smart and aware as 3 year old children. This isn’t the food chain, it’s normalized violence to animals. Watch dominion on UA-cam
The land price is very high.....I would have considered a lease instead.....but they fell in love with a piece of land....I think the area they live in I very over priced.....and since I have nieces who live up there, I think I might be right. Hopefully the bubble will pop soon.
They are too much all over the place. Also they don’t know their monthly expenses. 5-20+ thousands is not their monthly expense based on how they worded it. Then why wouldn’t you always calculate equipment maintenance into your monthly expenses (average cost). Why do they need that much machines for 130 pigs is beyond me!! They seem to be doing things backwards to me and trying to do it all. That’s what’s costing them.
Have you considered worm farming? They sell for $55lb! I raise millions of worms to sell/fertilize my garden, and to show others how to care for them :) no acreage needed!
Animal farmers are animal abusers. Pigs are as smart and aware as 3 year old children. This isn’t the food chain, it’s normalized violence to animals. Watch dominion on UA-cam
Animal farmers are animal abusers. Pigs are as smart and aware as 3 year old children. This isn’t the food chain, it’s normalized violence to animals. Watch dominion on UA-cam
I really like this guy for one simple reason at the 15.26 mark the three of them were walking and the women was behind the two men, but her man glanced behind himself and realized that the women was walking behind them, and he moved over to his left so the women could walk between the two of them instead of walking behind. This is a man that respect's and love's this woman and I hope she realizes it.
I love the drive and ambition you guys have but there is no way I'm going into any debt for any reason. 1/2 a million is beyond brain damage to me. Thank you for being open and honest about this type of business.
I think that an important point to make here is that there is Good Debt and Bad Debt. Good Debt is where you borrow money in order to invest in yourself and your knowledge, or to invest in land, or an investment property, or to invest in plant and equipment/machinery/materials. Something that helps you to earn or increase how much you can earn. Bad Debt is where you owe money to people for non income producing consumer items such as the giant flat screen TV or sound system or computer system for playing games or over the top furniture. Going into debt to go on a holiday to some far away place.
@@markfryer9880 While your explanation does make perfect sense and I'm sure this happens constantly with alot of things business related and even personal things as you have stated, but this is still too big of a risk. I'm sure everyone is seeing the student loan crisis here in America. That is a perfect example of your "Good Debt" for some, but in reality it's "bad debt" for most. I feel that your freedom is stripped away in a sense when you go into debt. You can't just stop working or change careers. It's a gamble and I see alot more people leverage themselves into too much than those who are winning with money. Proverbs 22:7: The rich rules over the poor, And the borrower becomes the lender’s slave.
@@Frindleeguy well personally I will go slow and steady. I had been in debt since I graduated college in 2009 because I took out loans at the tender age of 17. 30k ballooned into 60k over 11 years. I made up my mind in 2019 to "pile driver" my debt and it took me 2 years and it was finished in March 2020. I have a family of 6 and we sacrificed alot to become financially free. Now there is one exception to this "no debt" thing. I will get a loan for a house soon. But I've set certain parameters for that. I don't look down on anyone who has this type of debt or any debt for that matter. I just have a hard time wrapping my head around why people buy these new 60k vehicles with a note every month. Leveraging is risky as it is. Why leverage sooooooo much? Life happens. People die or get injured and families fall into turmoil. I don't that for anyone.
Wow, this is SO informative. Although the title is "OMG $188k pig farming!" it doesn't quite come across how their pig business is still operating at a loss, and that's with very significant amounts of grants. There is definitely a market for artisan pork products (at 5 to 8 times the cost of standard supermarket prices), but gauging the market is crucial part of the process. Their transition into 3 or 4 other businesses doesn't exactly strike confidence in the viability of the farm. Still, it's an excellent dive by UpFlip.
My thoughts exactly, especially when she said the other two enterprises they are working on are more scalable than pork and they aren't trying to grow the pork revenue but maintain it. But then on only 20 acres arable for hemp and grapes how scalable are they especially when they are going to have to buy equipment to harvest and store the stuff.
I don’t think you go into this to make a bunch of money. They would still have profit if they weren’t building but I think it’s more about buying a piece of land and working/living off of it
We are heavily subsidized, distracted, very expensive, unprofitable and probably stoned 24x7.... Me: i guess i'm paying for the pigs one way or another.
I really wish that you had asked them what the annual figures saved would be if they processed the pigs, and harvested the grain themselves. Crucial and obvious questions, but oh well. Overall, great video, and thanks to all for contributing! Alluvial Farms is inspiring, and it is fairly easy to apply their model/history to your own vision and road map. Some obvious places to save money, but awesome little farm!
Thanks for the feedback Shwa. We're glad you enjoyed the video. Maybe we'll have them on again for some follow up questions. What type of business are you in?
They cant process in whatcom county. So they will always have to pay for processing. Currently ther are 3 butchers (farm kill to process) in the county and there is a moritorium keeping anyon from doing cutcherie as a business. Thats why we chose NOT to purchase in whatcom and have looked south to wahkiakum couny where the liberal mindset doesnt control the farming or the forestry.
Custom combining rates are usually about $35 per acre, but being that they don’t have many acres I could imagine it’s upwards of $50 to make it worth the time involved for another farmer.
Animal farmers are animal abusers. Pigs are as smart and aware as 3 year old children. This isn’t the food chain, it’s normalized violence to animals. Watch dominion on UA-cam
Animal farmers are animal abusers. Pigs are as smart and aware as 3 year old children. This isn’t the food chain, it’s normalized violence to animals. Watch dominion on UA-cam
They have so much going for them. The one thing I would add to their list of feed for the pigs is they could add potatoes to finish the pigs growth they said they have a potato farm down the road from them. I had a very small pig operation in northern Wisconsin and I could buy large amounts of potatoes very cheap from a potato farm down the road from me and the pigs loved potatoes. Good luck with your farm
Thanks for this! The timing is perfect. We are embarking on a similar venture in east Texas starting within six months. We’ve seen lots of videos but this is the closest to what we plan to do.
What part of east Texas...just moved here 2 years ago and have started a hog and chicken farm...adding goats and cows soon...I'm in Omaha Texas...will be starting a YT channel here shortly as well
Good video. Just a few suggestions on the business side. Consider investments that reduce your cost rather than create added costs and risks.. Maybe instead of expanding to a restaurant (that can be forced to close to the public), maybe that could be your own onsite processing facility. Instead of feeding a boar year round consider artificial insemination. Or sell your boars semen for others AI. If your doing the farrowing shoot for a litter each month vs every other month. The more you can manage in house the more efficient your operation can be. Why aren't you growing the peas you add to your feed too? Instead of grapes? Large businesses have two key elements that your small business won't have, which is leverage and economies of scale. So you have to be smarter to continue to grow. The facility you are building can do double duty as a housing solution and your processing or restaurant facility. I fail to see how growing hemp helps your swine business? Venturing off into another business model is not advisable until your profitable. Your only on 46 acres of which 10 is riparian? You be better off just letting campers on your riparian as an Airbnb. You already own the land - no infrastructure costs.
Animal farmers are animal abusers. Pigs are as smart and aware as 3 year old children. This isn’t the food chain, it’s normalized violence to animals. Watch dominion on UA-cam
Love her vision and dedication This lady seems serious they both do but she sounds very optimistic and it’s contagious I can’t wait to buy my land idk how or when but they gave me the hope I needed!
I love the passion and the attempt to intelligently pursue their dreams. I hate to be like Mr. Wonderful here, but what we just watched is Matthew and Katie pursuing a life goal. What is missing from this romanticized tour is the misery of equipment failure, animal death loss, living poor for many many years (if not permanently). For anyone who has a desire to quit their job and start farming, listen carefully to the incredible amount of overhead, unending amount of work required, and limited net income. Why do "businesses" like this fail? Their goal is to make a living. That isn't creating a business....that is creating a job.
Not have big farm like them. Have about 10 acres. Started out just providing my own food and little bit of crops for profit. It started growing and growing. More and more pigs because we found a passion for the pigs. But I still work remote for a fintech company. Reason I'm able to do this is because I live in Thailand and paying people to do most of the work is quit cheap. So I have a quite large income that can offset the issues you can have (sickness, breakdowns etc)
14:39 that pig has almost human looking eyes. I just found this channel, and it's great. Subscribed immediately. I'd love to work on a operation like this some day, I'll have to do some homework on prices of land, what the livestock business is like in my area. These people are making it happen, hats off to them!
Welcome to the channel ctdieselnut and thank you so much for subbing. The farming industry can be so rewarding and we think you'll do great. 😀👍Do you currently have previous farming experience?
@@harleymays1736 Farming is not only tough work but it's also tough business. It does not lend itself easily to scale. There's always a sweet spot in any industry between scaling and margins, but in farming it seems like once someone hits that mark, no one else can emulate it. There's only room for one of each business model in a given region. You can run a small farm with decent margins, but overall you don't net very much. Or you might try to scale, as these two are doing, and your margins get tighter, but you stand to bring home more money during the same time period as the small farm. But now that small farm couldn't scale up in the same way you have, because you "own" that sector now. Those customers are yours because you can meet their demand, while the small farm can't get a foothold to match your supply unless they get a massive cash infusion (read, massive debt in a short period of time; read, massive interest rate). Once a farm makes it big, whether or not it can remain big, it restricts others from entering the big show in that specific manner and region -- like a miniature, or localized monopoly. I don't envy farmers.
I believe there's many ways to do any business I've had three businesses I made them profitable and sold them at a great profit most companies go out of business in the first few years most of them had no plans had no clue in what they were doing and did not do their research some didn't have the funds that was needed and some found out there was more work than they wanted to put in having a business doesn't make you rich overnight and just because you have a business name doesn't make it a business.
You will find that alot of farmers going into hemp, which I have interviewed, haven't made the $ that they thought they were going to make. I personally am not a hemp fan, but respect to those who are.
That is absolutely amazing that they are able to have the mobile unit do butcher on farm and still sell as inspected meat in cuts. That is not allowed in Canada - I wish. I hate that if we want to sell inspected meat we have to ship.
There are very few USDA inspected mobile processors in the US. In most communities it's been shown to not financially sustainable. The main reason being the cost of the USDA is a federal employee, subject to all the constraints & expenses of federal workplace rules. In this case I think they are harvesting on site under inspection, then transferring to a facility to cut & package. I suspect as long as a USDA inspector is present throughout, a sort of chain of custody is maintained. Processing is one of the biggest hurdles for small farms trying to raise and sell healthy, ethically raised meats. There is a small farm exemption that allows small farmers to process and sell poultry on farm, as long as they are sold as whole birds. You can sell whole live animals and send them off to a non USDA custom butcher (technically the customer owns the animal before harvest). Or, you can send your animals to a USDA inspected facility for harvest, butcher and packaging. Unfortunately there are few USDA facilities in most communities and they are often booked way in advance. Years ago there were many small abattoirs throughout the country, many small farms had their own smokehouse for curing bacon, ham etc. Now the bureaucratic burden, and the proliferation of industrialized farming, has made smaller scale, local meat production a challenge.
Pretty much impossible to legally do in most places in the USA, very very unusual to have that service available. Never seen or even heard of a mobile USDA inspected butcher in 50 years of raising hogs. Not that there isn't just never seen it. That ability has severely restricted my ability to market.
I am happy to see how they allow the pigs to walk around free, I am gonna do that too on my farm, I am gonna start a mixed integrated free-range farm, watching them is really inspirational, thank you for the information, nice video.
@@jakedoe1054 then, you eat "rabbit-food", too. We eat both plants like fruits, veggies, but i prefer not to eat rotten corpses of tortured animals. Your joke doesn't bother me. You cannot impress someone else by telling him, that you eat disgusting stuff. It's like you were proud, telling me, you like to eat shit or vomit. Your kind of answer, btw. is always the same: cognitive dissonance. But if it helps you to live better with your cruel choices, go on, lost soul.
@@Robin.S_1980 I guessed I missed the joke. People are omnivores by nature so if either of us is going against nature it's you. Huge difference between eating meat and vomit or shit. That is not a reasonable comparison even if your emotions are getting you all worked up. Killing and eating animals is a natural thing. Raising them up ourselves is not only smart it helps the environment as we getting our meat local instead of hunting or importing. You try to pretend you have some kind of moral highground but it isn't so. Plants have lived too ya know.
Seems like their son is in love with the place and the animals. That’s a great place to start a future of success. Being tech-savvy puts him ahead of the game. Good show.
It's a first generation farm and its always nice to see when the second generation coming up is interested in the family business. Thanks for watching and all your support Bonnie!
The cost of the huge land + other huge monthly over head costs+repair bills , means u can only make a profit if there are huge number of animals . With only about 100 pigs in that huge land, its hard to make a profit
Upflip nice interview. I'm also concerned with the amt paid to banksters and I've a tent too. Even the poorest ( & most affordable ) farms available to lease also might have you pay/finance over $50k for a budget grain silo capacity to receive truck loads. ( unless... ) A second choice might be to adapt 2 standard shipping containers for this 60,000lb storage use. No concrete pad required. Less high auger borrowing. A standard industrial vibratory unit might not even be required & if one end can be hoisted at one end by about 8 feet before loading. So all 3 twenty foot adapted TFU's containers would be less expensive than 1/3 of the top shelf whiz bang engineered set-up which the banksters nephews and buddies might prefer the beginning farmers to strap themselves to, especially when they fail and banksters seize & then sell, etc. ( many within the first 3 years, btw. ) Pig farmers might be better off to a lease arrangement with appropriately small engineering budgets and be ready to move forward to other animal grazed opportunities. Rather than shouldering huge debt for structures and equipment, the lease should have the farmer maintain ownership of USCS $tyle perimeter fence & equipments and might negotiate a renewable rolling 5 year lease typical of many organic farms. Improvements to the water resources and other services might agree to be shared by the appraisal as the farms value increases. I'd like establishing perennials, forages & trees which become increasing %part of animal tree-hay diets without much machinery or structures. Also, pig food from ponds like bulrush, duckweed & minnows can be hugely productive & nutritious with animals contributing much to harvesting - without machineries or building concrete & storage shelters. In Alberta I think Takota Coen has described methods of this organic practice. Takota Coen milk fed pastured pork ua-cam.com/video/CloGPgGE9WQ/v-deo.html Thanks for your work.
@@swamp-yankee And they are very high % of waste (rodents and moisture, esp in The PNW) and VERY labor intensive. A used grain tank and auger would cost the same as a container today in their area. Regards
Of course I am retired now and live in Florida but lived and worked all over the Pacific Northwest years ago. I’m amazed at the prices out west. Kudos if they can sell ground pork for $8/lb. and chops for $12/lb. Just wondering who are they selling to? Certainly nobody I know.
@UpFlip I have a about 4 acres mostly woods I am planning on clearing some this weekend get ready for burn season so I can have so clear land for veggies also planting a few apple trees this year maybe getting some chickens just a small thing for me and the fam
Interesting video. I'm happy they are able to make the large investments early. But I'm concerned they are leaning perhaps to much on that. I'm sure they know who Joel Salatin is. Joel practices land/ soil management where the animals themselves improve the land,not destroy it like they were talking about. And he has been profitable for decades. Anyway, have a great day.
@@UpFlip You bet. I'm sure they know who Joel is, he's known around the world for his pasture rotation methods. I'm actually thinking about trying to contact them about the subject. Anyway like your videos, would like to see more about small farms, market farmers and more food truck type businesses.
@@victorbenner539 We agree, we would love to see more profiles of different makers in the food system who are making their enterprises work. One note on Mr. Salatin, is that his origin story in farming includes growing up on land that his parents had invested in. I think the start up stories for second and first generation family farms will differ in the emphasis on land acquisition and capital construction. As far as soil health building goes - we are implementing perennial systems as the pigs enrich the soil and carefully monitoring a variety of metrics to show soil health improvement over time with our management. Please do feel free to reach out, if you would like to continue the conversation.
@@alluvialfarms7279 truly I was considering traveling north for a visit someday. I live in Southwest Washington essentially on the Cowlitz river ( it backs up and will flood approximately 9 of my ten acres each winter making full land production all year impossible but I have 3/4 of the year to use 😁👍 ) Anyways I'd like to get up there someday. If I can I'll contact you first. Have a great day. 🌤🐖
Victor- good points but what works in Virginia for Joel will not work for all of us. His ability to work his very fertile land without need to irrigate is very unique to his location. It just cannot work for me in Idaho-I run a small beef and pork operation and very little if what Joel can do applies to me.
Value added infrastructure will make hemp farming for fiber and seed a lot more profitable, and the studies I have read show that it is already more profitable than other agricultural crops (other than tobacco)
@@chaninjoetilakamonkul8573 being in the industry 20 years hopefully Ive learned a thing or two. The hemp industry requires hemp specific processing equipment, storage, drying, ect. I’ve watched countless groups loose hundreds of millions of dollars because they thought they knew it all from their 50 years of crop experience. Thought they could utilize their existing equipment. Thought they could wet store in bags in the field. Bad genetics/illegal genetics. Thought they could plant late/early. The list of mistakes I’ve seen is endless. The hemp and cannabis industry is fraught with illusion. Makes people think the money is easy and guaranteed. Couldn’t be further from the truth. Hemp and cannabis game is a giant snake pit. Almost no one survives completely vertically integrated. Eventually (within a few years)billion dollar companies will take it all over, and bulldoze the rest.
@@Fullautofreedom I don't doubt that you're right about how it's been, but the limiting factor with industrial hemp production is processing and manufacturing infrastructure. We are basically starting from scratch after prohibition and regrowing won't be easy, but I think its certainly possible. I think the biggest driving forces will be when hemp food/nutrition, clothing, and industrial materials (eg building houses) becomes mainstream. Thank you for your insights too!
@@chaninjoetilakamonkul8573 you do realize there are processing plants on railways that have biomass brought in via railway and their throughput is 50 tons per day? That’s just one plant in one state. There a lot more of those on that level coming online. They aren’t really known or public. We are definitely not starting from scratch. There’s already massive existing infrastructure. These facilities are in the 50-200million range. And are 50-100k sqft buildings that they own. I own an engineering company that builds the specific equipment for these people. So I NEED to know everything that’s going on in this industry. We focus on areas that other companies don’t. Scaled solutions for Isolation, conversions, remediation.
When I wasa kid we had about 25 pigs! We also had ducks, chickens (a few types actually) as well as an assortment of other things! My family owned a turkey farm in N. Carolina as well. Now that I'm older I'd love to have the lifestyle as my family had when I was young!
@@UpFlip my children are all older but how I wish I could have shown them this lifestyle years ago! My youngest son is in the military and is traveling the world. I hope he sees how good basics are and follows in these footsteps! My oldest daughter is a vegan as well as a science teacher. I hope she learns how her way will help the environment and follows a path towards self sustainability! I have 4 children but I'm divorced. There's nothing glorious about living fancy! I don't care who you are! A modest life is the best life there is!
My family was always involved in ranching so I am the first not to Own a ranch Earlier. I just started my own ranch, I look forward to expanding the ranch. I just called my C-r-y-p-t-o Investment Trader in charge of my C-r-y-p-t-o Portfolio to Liquidate $ 150,000 of my Profits. By January the Project will be in Completion. I'm so Excited .. I'm not doing it just for Profits, I just wanna do the Family thing.
@@donaldt6462 That's nice,I plan on retiring in my country home. My family has got a very big ranch there, I think it will be fun though. This Urban buzz gets Tiring. Time to do the Old Family thing.
Yes i have started a small pig farm since last year but now I want to aim higher so what kind of suggession you would like to suggest or help me more 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Nice story. Our dream 10 years ago before losing all my help. One needs a super supportive spouse and family. Mine aren't into so much work. I retired from USDA BTW teaching others how to farm.
Very good vid! Thx! Do your pigs drink from the creek? Or you put a water tank during rotational grazing? How much land and a minimum number of pigs would you recommend for a new farm?
Hi there, thanks for watching and for your question. It is a best management practice to make sure that livestock do not have any contact with running surface water, and that there are vegetative buffers between livestock and water as well to take up manures and nutrients before they reach any surface water. We have a 180' buffer of forest restoration planting and no agricultural activity between the creek on our property and our livestock paddocks. The pigs in the barn drink from nipple waterers that are plumbed into a pressurized system connected to our cistern. The pigs in the field drink from a "water wagon": three 250 gallon cubes on a hay wagon, plumbed in series and to nipple waterers that extend below the wagon.
1979 was a horrible year for us. The prices we received for our hogs were well below the cost of production. In 1981 in addition to long cycle of low hog prices; The interest rates sky rocketed to 21.75 % We almost went under
Thanks for the vid great info and very informative. Matt and Katy really got it going on in there pig farm., nice work.! 👍😎 I wonder if I could start a pig farm in Texas or would it be to hot for pigs.?🤔
I have tried to make my own, but I have not been able to find where they sell the products, for example, corn by quantity or wheat and barley. I need to know where they sell it by quantity.my pigs are one of the best in the Georgia region
Try contacting grain/ feed co ops, State Department of Agriculture or your County Extension may have information as well. Can ask Google about bulk grain sales in your state.
There is a grain broker in our county who has helped us source the field peas. We grow the barley or know other farmers who grow it. The grain broker mostly serves our local dairy community...
Really enjoyed the video 😊 ..... We too have a pig farm but unfortunately we do not have an infrastructure and machine like them. But it motivate me to keep doing what m doing... Thanks Upflip for this initiatives
Great idea, we have some really great Future Farmers of America (FFA) programs in our area, we are working on reaching out to them to see if we can find more ways to collaborate with internships and the like.
The next generation learning about topics like this is very very important. Alluvia Farms is an amazing source of knowledge and inspiration for the youth.
I'm coming to get ya! Hopefully in 15yrs when I'm your age I'll have gained 200 acres in Washington and develop a fully sustainable farm. For now we have around 5acres but I'm comin y'all!!!
That's an excellent point. I think one of the reasons we were so thrilled to partner with UpFlip and join the conversation about the economics of farming is to increase discussion about what it takes to grow ethical meat. Farming well and responsibly is not a get rich quick venture. I think it is great that videos like these help the average person to dive a little deeper into the costs of food production and what is behind the prices you pay for your food.
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Thanks Upflip for this collaboration. Paul was an amazing host, you guys did a really professional job of telling the story. We are really impressed with your model as well and your young and entrepreneurial founder Nikita - you guys should profile yourselves!
My biggest worry/question is there diet. I want a healthy feed for my pigs when I get them and what should that consist of? Organic. I don’t wanna buy from a store I wanna look for the ingredients with other farmers and mix it myself
@@wantedxx7 idk why no one answered your question but I agree. I feel that this farm like any, does not capitalize on the land that they have in order to feed the pigs. With rotational grazing on alllllll that land they could cut their substitutional feed down by a whole lot and even be able to market it as pasture raised
What are the feeds for the pigs please?
It's nice to hear from someone else in the Pacific Northwest. I just bought 88 acres of sagebrush and cheatgrass in eastern Oregon to raise pigs and just be me. I have dreamed of owning my own property for my whole life. The acreage is paid for and I have 1 pregnant pig. Stay tuned to see how Pleasant Valley Pork evolves.
Do keep us updated Rudolph. Sounds like you have something awesome starting to bloom!
I saw a photo once of a fire in cheat grass range that stopped at a perfect right angle because of a barb wire fence. On the non burned side of the fence a good grazier had improved the land so that it was populated with perennial grasses and no longer dominated by annual cheat grass.
My pig had 7 babies yesterday!
Congratulations, I remember my first litter. That was a long time ago but will Never forget. Right now I am working on a special breed for Colorado since it’s very hard to get Idaho pasture pigs here and when they have them they are way expensive. So I started with half a dozen breeders 5 sows and one boar. I’ve had 3 litters with one more coming any day. Then the others should all be bred again which is going to be tough having pigs in late October and November but most of those will be for my first shares. Minus the few choice animals I keep for breeding stock. My next purchase is going to be a male Kune Kune as my female has had a great first litter and I’ve saved 1 of them to breed to a male Kune these pigs will be Kune Kune x2 x, Hampshire x duroc mix. I’ve had great luck with the Hampshire and duroc before here. Good luck on you new farm and if you ever have any questions feel free to HMU.
Tommysanfilippo@hotmail.com
@@UpFlip One of the piglet died. I learned my lesson! If they seem not quite right, take them out and make sure they're warm and ok. I sold 4 of the remaining 6 as weaners and am raising the last two over the winter. One is sold as a butcher hog when he is ready in March. The other is still up for sale or we will butcher him for our freezer. Meanwhile, we moved them to a different pasture with more room and Mama pig went to visit Boris the boar. This week we'll see if she comes in heat or got bred. Fingers crossed for another litter in late February/early March.
I truly appreciate how you actually talk some basic
numbers. 90+% of social media hypes up the earnings but never discusses expenses. Good stuff.
as a 65 yo in London UK jelous city slicker , I was thrilled and excited with this most excellent pig farm , full of good hard honest work and a wealth of knowledge and untold inspiration , hats off to these 2 rich farmers and a bunch of positive comment
Hey Terence! Thanks so much for watching. We appreciate you!
@@UpFlip you guys beat television and anything msm hands down God Bless
I remember when I graduated from hs and told my friends and family I wanted a farm and everyone laughed and made fun of me. Glad to see I wasn’t crazy.
Am from Tanzania, A state resides in Eastern part of Africa..
You guys Oooh made my day. Everyone who wants to start livestock farming should see this interview. Very helpful. I think everyone should learn to start small
GOD BLESS YOU
We really appreciate that Edward. 😀Thanks so much for watching and commenting on the video. We're so glad that it was helpful. Will you have the same type of livestock on your farm?
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My family doing the same, starting last year with 10 pigs, we learned alot about the feeding and care. This year we started with 2 breeders and another 15 pigs, we appling all we learned the last year, and our goal is to takecare of them until 6 months and reach 90 - 100 kg. per pig. We have 20 hectares and is kinda difficult to us to expand or grow because we don't have the machinery but we doing it.
Thanks for sharing your business journey. Best of luck! 👊
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I LOVE their vision to KEEP their farm in farming and land use instead of taking the development check to retire on. That is so indescribably admirable and important
I am raise registered Red Wattled hogs. I live on a 1880's homestead that I bought. My hogs run out of the old bank barn onto pasture. I registered the best out of each litter, sell feeder pigs, and then feed out the rest to whole, halves, and then cuts in vacuum packs. We also have chickens and a large garden. You have an awesome farm and business and I love the growth into the diversity.
It sounds like you have a pretty awesome farm as well! Thanks for watching and commenting. We appreciate you!
can I apply sir?
I'd love some Red Wattles if you have any to sell for breeding.
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This is sensational video. I enjoyed the farm tour and listen to your experiences and challenges. May your hard work pay off sooner than you think.
As a teacher of over 20 years, i would highly recommended homeschooling your children!! Teaching them to do what you are doing is WAY more advantageous than "socializing" them to a damaged lazy society.
Really really amazing.. watching from Kenya, Africa. Looking forward to create mine using the ideas. Thank you guys!
Animal cruelty is amazing?😢 Animal farmers are animal abusers. Pigs are as smart and aware as 3 year old children. This isn’t the food chain, it’s normalized violence to animals. Watch dominion on UA-cam
Animal farmers are animal abusers. Pigs are as smart and aware as 3 year old children. This isn’t the food chain, it’s normalized violence to animals. Watch dominion on UA-cam
I'm starting to have my own small pig farm that's why i'm here. 😊 All the way from Philippines 🤗
Why are you happy about mass murdering baby animals? 😢 Animal farmers are animal abusers. Pigs are as smart and aware as 3 year old children. This isn’t the food chain, it’s normalized violence to animals. Watch dominion on UA-cam
So 35 minutes to say "we're half a million in debt and have razor thin margins"
Exactly, seemed over capitalized from equipment and infrastructure.
The land price is very high.....I would have considered a lease instead.....but they fell in love with a piece of land....I think the area they live in I very over priced.....and since I have nieces who live up there, I think I might be right. Hopefully the bubble will pop soon.
They are too much all over the place. Also they don’t know their monthly expenses. 5-20+ thousands is not their monthly expense based on how they worded it. Then why wouldn’t you always calculate equipment maintenance into your monthly expenses (average cost). Why do they need that much machines for 130 pigs is beyond me!! They seem to be doing things backwards to me and trying to do it all. That’s what’s costing them.
If the debt is going to eventually pay for itself that’s not bad debt…..
Thanks. Don’t want to watch it now
$500K for 46 acres is insane! Acreage is going for ~$3-5K/acre where I live.
That's what I heard when I lived in the Midwest yet those deals were nowhere to be found.
Absolutely excellent video, I wish this family the absolute best of everything!!
Have you considered worm farming? They sell for $55lb! I raise millions of worms to sell/fertilize my garden, and to show others how to care for them :) no acreage needed!
Animal farmers are animal abusers. Pigs are as smart and aware as 3 year old children. This isn’t the food chain, it’s normalized violence to animals. Watch dominion on UA-cam
amazing video guys, I appreciate the fact you revealed the numbers!
Glad you liked it!
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I really like this guy for one simple reason at the 15.26 mark the three of them were walking and the women was behind the two men, but her man glanced behind himself and realized that the women was walking behind them, and he moved over to his left so the women could walk between the two of them instead of walking behind. This is a man that respect's and love's this woman and I hope she realizes it.
I love the drive and ambition you guys have but there is no way I'm going into any debt for any reason. 1/2 a million is beyond brain damage to me. Thank you for being open and honest about this type of business.
Debt is not for everyone.
I think that an important point to make here is that there is Good Debt and Bad Debt. Good Debt is where you borrow money in order to invest in yourself and your knowledge, or to invest in land, or an investment property, or to invest in plant and equipment/machinery/materials. Something that helps you to earn or increase how much you can earn.
Bad Debt is where you owe money to people for non income producing consumer items such as the giant flat screen TV or sound system or computer system for playing games or over the top furniture. Going into debt to go on a holiday to some far away place.
@@markfryer9880 While your explanation does make perfect sense and I'm sure this happens constantly with alot of things business related and even personal things as you have stated, but this is still too big of a risk. I'm sure everyone is seeing the student loan crisis here in America. That is a perfect example of your "Good Debt" for some, but in reality it's "bad debt" for most. I feel that your freedom is stripped away in a sense when you go into debt. You can't just stop working or change careers. It's a gamble and I see alot more people leverage themselves into too much than those who are winning with money. Proverbs 22:7: The rich rules over the poor, And the borrower becomes the lender’s slave.
So without debt of any kind, how are you planning to become wealthy? That'd be a great strategy to learn...
@@Frindleeguy well personally I will go slow and steady. I had been in debt since I graduated college in 2009 because I took out loans at the tender age of 17. 30k ballooned into 60k over 11 years. I made up my mind in 2019 to "pile driver" my debt and it took me 2 years and it was finished in March 2020. I have a family of 6 and we sacrificed alot to become financially free. Now there is one exception to this "no debt" thing. I will get a loan for a house soon. But I've set certain parameters for that. I don't look down on anyone who has this type of debt or any debt for that matter. I just have a hard time wrapping my head around why people buy these new 60k vehicles with a note every month. Leveraging is risky as it is. Why leverage sooooooo much? Life happens. People die or get injured and families fall into turmoil. I don't that for anyone.
Wow, this is SO informative. Although the title is "OMG $188k pig farming!" it doesn't quite come across how their pig business is still operating at a loss, and that's with very significant amounts of grants. There is definitely a market for artisan pork products (at 5 to 8 times the cost of standard supermarket prices), but gauging the market is crucial part of the process. Their transition into 3 or 4 other businesses doesn't exactly strike confidence in the viability of the farm. Still, it's an excellent dive by UpFlip.
My thoughts exactly, especially when she said the other two enterprises they are working on are more scalable than pork and they aren't trying to grow the pork revenue but maintain it. But then on only 20 acres arable for hemp and grapes how scalable are they especially when they are going to have to buy equipment to harvest and store the stuff.
I don’t think you go into this to make a bunch of money. They would still have profit if they weren’t building but I think it’s more about buying a piece of land and working/living off of it
he also said "180k in the first 4 years" like 45k/year minus however much in farm expenses is good
We are heavily subsidized, distracted, very expensive, unprofitable and probably stoned 24x7.... Me: i guess i'm paying for the pigs one way or another.
Grant money = Taxpayer subsidized. They are gonna go broke.
I really wish that you had asked them what the annual figures saved would be if they processed the pigs, and harvested the grain themselves. Crucial and obvious questions, but oh well. Overall, great video, and thanks to all for contributing! Alluvial Farms is inspiring, and it is fairly easy to apply their model/history to your own vision and road map. Some obvious places to save money, but awesome little farm!
Thanks for the feedback Shwa. We're glad you enjoyed the video. Maybe we'll have them on again for some follow up questions. What type of business are you in?
They cant process in whatcom county. So they will always have to pay for processing. Currently ther are 3 butchers (farm kill to process) in the county and there is a moritorium keeping anyon from doing cutcherie as a business. Thats why we chose NOT to purchase in whatcom and have looked south to wahkiakum couny where the liberal mindset doesnt control the farming or the forestry.
Custom combining rates are usually about $35 per acre, but being that they don’t have many acres I could imagine it’s upwards of $50 to make it worth the time involved for another farmer.
Animal farmers are animal abusers. Pigs are as smart and aware as 3 year old children. This isn’t the food chain, it’s normalized violence to animals. Watch dominion on UA-cam
Animal farmers are animal abusers. Pigs are as smart and aware as 3 year old children. This isn’t the food chain, it’s normalized violence to animals. Watch dominion on UA-cam
Inspiring...well done and all the best for the future!
They have so much going for them. The one thing I would add to their list of feed for the pigs is they could add potatoes to finish the pigs growth they said they have a potato farm down the road from them. I had a very small pig operation in northern Wisconsin and I could buy large amounts of potatoes
very cheap from a potato farm down the road from me and the pigs loved potatoes. Good luck with your farm
That's a great idea, Robert Leski! Thanks for sharing your tips. How long have you been in the farm industry?
@@UpFlip I got out of pigs when I moved to Kentucky, I'm retired now but still raising a few pigs just to keep meat in the freezer,
Great work really!
Thank you for all that effort a your guide lines.
Am in Uganda East Africa .
So interesting to watch.
Be blessed always thanks.
Thanks for this! The timing is perfect. We are embarking on a similar venture in east Texas starting within six months. We’ve seen lots of videos but this is the closest to what we plan to do.
Hi there, that's amazing. I wish you well and will like to visit your farm someday. Have a wonderful one.
@Keylor Paniagua Hughes Springs, SE of Mount Pleasant. Definitely open to collaborating.
nice id buy from you someday for sure
What part of east Texas...just moved here 2 years ago and have started a hog and chicken farm...adding goats and cows soon...I'm in Omaha Texas...will be starting a YT channel here shortly as well
@@tunlandfarm9444 wow you are really close...Mt Pleasant is next door to me...
I love there vision. I love the lack of buzz words it’s really refreshing.
Just had 2 litters of berks and they were all sold before they were born!Berk power 💪🐖
Great video! The eagle @ 12:35 was majestic
Glad you enjoyed it Kyle. We appreciate the feedback. Would you ever get into farming?
Love from the Caribbean great inspiration, wish they were close by for a visit
Thanks for the support! Great reason to come visit Washington :)
What a great video! These owners really know their business. Thanks! (Lafayette, LA)
Congratulations on a really useful and insightful video.
Glad it was helpful Mmmmyess. More faming videos?
I love these two!! But the UPSPEAK is grating my Nerves!!!
Good video. Just a few suggestions on the business side. Consider investments that reduce your cost rather than create added costs and risks.. Maybe instead of expanding to a restaurant (that can be forced to close to the public), maybe that could be your own onsite processing facility. Instead of feeding a boar year round consider artificial insemination. Or sell your boars semen for others AI. If your doing the farrowing shoot for a litter each month vs every other month. The more you can manage in house the more efficient your operation can be. Why aren't you growing the peas you add to your feed too? Instead of grapes? Large businesses have two key elements that your small business won't have, which is leverage and economies of scale. So you have to be smarter to continue to grow. The facility you are building can do double duty as a housing solution and your processing or restaurant facility. I fail to see how growing hemp helps your swine business? Venturing off into another business model is not advisable until your profitable. Your only on 46 acres of which 10 is riparian? You be better off just letting campers on your riparian as an Airbnb. You already own the land - no infrastructure costs.
Great advice!
Remarkable business analysis and advise, hope they will consider it immediately before it's too late
@@UpFlip Good morning, do you need volunteers? Thank you
This is a great piece of advice from a business point of view
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Hi watching from south cotabato.,, thank you for sharing this information about your pig farm, so nice
Thanks for watching from south cotabato Bebet. Should we do more farming videos?
Love her vision and dedication This lady seems serious they both do but she sounds very optimistic and it’s contagious I can’t wait to buy my land idk how or when but they gave me the hope I needed!
Awesome job upflip team! Love the content.
Thank you Matthew! Couldn’t do it without you😉
I love the passion and the attempt to intelligently pursue their dreams. I hate to be like Mr. Wonderful here, but what we just watched is Matthew and Katie pursuing a life goal. What is missing from this romanticized tour is the misery of equipment failure, animal death loss, living poor for many many years (if not permanently). For anyone who has a desire to quit their job and start farming, listen carefully to the incredible amount of overhead, unending amount of work required, and limited net income. Why do "businesses" like this fail? Their goal is to make a living. That isn't creating a business....that is creating a job.
This might be a case of once you find a job that you love you will "never work a day in your life" type of approach to life and business.
Not have big farm like them. Have about 10 acres. Started out just providing my own food and little bit of crops for profit. It started growing and growing. More and more pigs because we found a passion for the pigs. But I still work remote for a fintech company. Reason I'm able to do this is because I live in Thailand and paying people to do most of the work is quit cheap. So I have a quite large income that can offset the issues you can have (sickness, breakdowns etc)
You smell that?
That’s the smell of the American dream. No other country is this possible god bless every person who strives for their American dream
now these are the right questions...good video
Glad you like them!
14:39 that pig has almost human looking eyes.
I just found this channel, and it's great. Subscribed immediately. I'd love to work on a operation like this some day, I'll have to do some homework on prices of land, what the livestock business is like in my area.
These people are making it happen, hats off to them!
Welcome to the channel ctdieselnut and thank you so much for subbing. The farming industry can be so rewarding and we think you'll do great. 😀👍Do you currently have previous farming experience?
Awesome video, interview and firsthand experiance from both presenter and farmers. Really informative and really increased my passion for farming.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I am now highly motivated. I live in the Bahamas and this is my next move . Continue to be encouraged guys❤
Glad to know you found inspiration in this video! Hope you watch our other content and find value in them too. Any business you want to see next? ☺️
$500,000 in the hole within five years is normal in this business. _That's_ what keeps people out of farming. It's so lopsided.
This is such nonsense oh make 200k a year!! In alberta, my buddy has 10,000 hogs and a dairy farmer and hes having problems
@@harleymays1736 Farming is not only tough work but it's also tough business. It does not lend itself easily to scale. There's always a sweet spot in any industry between scaling and margins, but in farming it seems like once someone hits that mark, no one else can emulate it. There's only room for one of each business model in a given region.
You can run a small farm with decent margins, but overall you don't net very much. Or you might try to scale, as these two are doing, and your margins get tighter, but you stand to bring home more money during the same time period as the small farm. But now that small farm couldn't scale up in the same way you have, because you "own" that sector now. Those customers are yours because you can meet their demand, while the small farm can't get a foothold to match your supply unless they get a massive cash infusion (read, massive debt in a short period of time; read, massive interest rate). Once a farm makes it big, whether or not it can remain big, it restricts others from entering the big show in that specific manner and region -- like a miniature, or localized monopoly.
I don't envy farmers.
@@TurdFurgeson571 I'm a 4th generation canadian beef farmer.
@@harleymays1736 That's wonderful to see you all keeping it alive. Good luck and happy farming.
@@TurdFurgeson571 thanks dude, I started in meat rabbits a few years ago, and meat chickens and turkeys. Also going to start growing hemp!
AWESOME KID.. ALREADY SOUNDING VERY PROFESSIONAL AND VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE BASICS... GOD BLESS A REAL INSPIRATION
I believe there's many ways to do any business I've had three businesses I made them profitable and sold them at a great profit most companies go out of business in the first few years most of them had no plans had no clue in what they were doing and did not do their research some didn't have the funds that was needed and some found out there was more work than they wanted to put in having a business doesn't make you rich overnight and just because you have a business name doesn't make it a business.
Billy gates and amazon dbag are buying up all the best farmland.. sad but true
Great point
You will find that alot of farmers going into hemp, which I have interviewed, haven't made the $ that they thought they were going to make. I personally am not a hemp fan, but respect to those who are.
this is a really well made video and very complete, it communicates really this couple is working very hard to make this happen for sure
It truly is an awesome farm Andrew!
I grew up on a pig farm in Eatonville wa. Loved this video👍❤️😍
We're glad you loved this, thanks for watching!
That is absolutely amazing that they are able to have the mobile unit do butcher on farm and still sell as inspected meat in cuts. That is not allowed in Canada - I wish. I hate that if we want to sell inspected meat we have to ship.
What an awesome service to have access to as a farmer. Hopefully Canada can create something similar soon.
There are very few USDA inspected mobile processors in the US. In most communities it's been shown to not financially sustainable. The main reason being the cost of the USDA is a federal employee, subject to all the constraints & expenses of federal workplace rules. In this case I think they are harvesting on site under inspection, then transferring to a facility to cut & package. I suspect as long as a USDA inspector is present throughout, a sort of chain of custody is maintained. Processing is one of the biggest hurdles for small farms trying to raise and sell healthy, ethically raised meats. There is a small farm exemption that allows small farmers to process and sell poultry on farm, as long as they are sold as whole birds. You can sell whole live animals and send them off to a non USDA custom butcher (technically the customer owns the animal before harvest). Or, you can send your animals to a USDA inspected facility for harvest, butcher and packaging. Unfortunately there are few USDA facilities in most communities and they are often booked way in advance. Years ago there were many small abattoirs throughout the country, many small farms had their own smokehouse for curing bacon, ham etc. Now the bureaucratic burden, and the proliferation of industrialized farming, has made smaller scale, local meat production a challenge.
Pretty much impossible to legally do in most places in the USA, very very unusual to have that service available. Never seen or even heard of a mobile USDA inspected butcher in 50 years of raising hogs. Not that there isn't just never seen it. That ability has severely restricted my ability to market.
Thank you sir for the interview, sound great
Glad you enjoyed it! Are you interested in farm business?
I am happy to see how they allow the pigs to walk around free, I am gonna do that too on my farm, I am gonna start a mixed integrated free-range farm, watching them is really inspirational, thank you for the information, nice video.
Thanks for watching Sue! We wish you nothing but the best on your environmentally friendly farm adventures.
"Free Range" is Marketing Bullshit. No "good life" or taste-habit can justify slitting someones throat, if you aren't in a survival situation.
@@Robin.S_1980 You keep eating that rabbit food. I love bacon. If they outlawed meat I would go cannibal.
@@jakedoe1054 then, you eat "rabbit-food", too. We eat both plants like fruits, veggies, but i prefer not to eat rotten corpses of tortured animals. Your joke doesn't bother me. You cannot impress someone else by telling him, that you eat disgusting stuff. It's like you were proud, telling me, you like to eat shit or vomit. Your kind of answer, btw. is always the same: cognitive dissonance. But if it helps you to live better with your cruel choices, go on, lost soul.
@@Robin.S_1980 I guessed I missed the joke. People are omnivores by nature so if either of us is going against nature it's you.
Huge difference between eating meat and vomit or shit. That is not a reasonable comparison even if your emotions are getting you all worked up. Killing and eating animals is a natural thing. Raising them up ourselves is not only smart it helps the environment as we getting our meat local instead of hunting or importing.
You try to pretend you have some kind of moral highground but it isn't so. Plants have lived too ya know.
I love all the positive, helpful support your fans give you
Support and encouragement definitely helps. Thanks for being here!
Great education on how to start a new farm... much live from KENYA.
Thanks for watching from Kenya Gumo! We appreciate the worldwide support.
Great show. Loved all the info
Thanks Jahad!
Seems like their son is in love with the place and the animals. That’s a great place to start a future of success. Being tech-savvy puts him ahead of the game. Good show.
It's a first generation farm and its always nice to see when the second generation coming up is interested in the family business. Thanks for watching and all your support Bonnie!
How could you love anything you're just raising to kill lmao??
@@Zack-ly7ck
Unless you eat air, and only air. STFU
I like your share holder analogy to corporate share holders. 👍 They benefit by supporting your farm.
Very cool concept / mentality for a farm for sure Michael.
The cost of the huge land + other huge monthly over head costs+repair bills ,
means u can only make a profit if there are huge number of animals .
With only about 100 pigs in that huge land,
its hard to make a profit
They sell hemp, grapes and use the land for a wide variety of reasons other then just raising pigs.
@@UpFlip At 11:50 the lady says they are not yet profitable.
@@edhuber3557 yeah....evidently they didn't listen to their own interview. I feel for them. 500k in debt is not a blessing, it's stressful.
Out of all that super impressive stuff, most impressed with the kid 😍🥰
Have you ever seen how the pigs are killed in a slaughterhouse? Screaming in a gas chamber before being stabbed in the throat and bleeding to death.
I love this channel I wish all my young people would get on this
I want too
I love her accent pretty awesome y’all are doing a great job
Upflip nice interview. I'm also concerned with the amt paid to banksters and I've a tent too.
Even the poorest ( & most affordable ) farms available to lease also might have you pay/finance over $50k for a budget grain silo capacity to receive truck loads. ( unless... )
A second choice might be to adapt 2 standard shipping containers for this 60,000lb storage use. No concrete pad required. Less high auger borrowing. A standard industrial vibratory unit might not even be required & if one end can be hoisted at one end by about 8 feet before loading. So all 3 twenty foot adapted TFU's containers would be less expensive than 1/3 of the top shelf whiz bang engineered set-up which the banksters nephews and buddies might prefer the beginning farmers to strap themselves to, especially when they fail and banksters seize & then sell, etc. ( many within the first 3 years, btw. )
Pig farmers might be better off to a lease arrangement with appropriately small engineering budgets and be ready to move forward to other animal grazed opportunities. Rather than shouldering huge debt for structures and equipment, the lease should have the farmer maintain ownership of USCS $tyle perimeter fence & equipments and might negotiate a renewable rolling 5 year lease typical of many organic farms.
Improvements to the water resources and other services might agree to be shared by the appraisal as the farms value increases.
I'd like establishing perennials, forages & trees which become increasing %part of animal tree-hay diets without much machinery or structures. Also, pig food from ponds like bulrush, duckweed & minnows can be hugely productive & nutritious with animals contributing much to harvesting - without machineries or building concrete & storage shelters. In Alberta I think Takota Coen has described methods of this organic practice.
Takota Coen milk fed pastured pork
ua-cam.com/video/CloGPgGE9WQ/v-deo.html
Thanks for your work.
Thanks for watching Robert. Don't forget to subscribe for more great farm content coming from us soon!
Folks have made shipping container grain bins that work real good.
@@swamp-yankee And they are very high % of waste (rodents and moisture, esp in The PNW) and VERY labor intensive. A used grain tank and auger would cost the same as a container today in their area. Regards
Thank you very much. This was very encouraging and educational. Hope you are doing well.
Great video! Looking forward to have a multi production farm with pigs.
Thank you Tim. Are you currently in farming?
Of course I am retired now and live in Florida but lived and worked all over the Pacific Northwest years ago. I’m amazed at the prices out west. Kudos if they can sell ground pork for $8/lb. and chops for $12/lb. Just wondering who are they selling to? Certainly nobody I know.
Thank you. It's very educative
Thank you for the support :)
I like this keep up the good work guys
Thank you Tafadzwa. We appreciate your feedback.😀 Any businesses you'd like to see on future videos?
This is my dream to be able to work for myself on my own land
Pretty awesome, right? Do you own any land, or just dreaming?
@UpFlip I have a about 4 acres mostly woods I am planning on clearing some this weekend get ready for burn season so I can have so clear land for veggies also planting a few apple trees this year maybe getting some chickens just a small thing for me and the fam
I can't believe you guys don't get more views with content like this
Hey Joshua! Thanks for watching! We appreciate you.
Interesting video. I'm happy they are able to make the large investments early. But I'm concerned they are leaning perhaps to much on that. I'm sure they know who Joel Salatin is. Joel practices land/ soil management where the animals themselves improve the land,not destroy it like they were talking about. And he has been profitable for decades. Anyway, have a great day.
Thank you for sharing that info!
@@UpFlip You bet. I'm sure they know who Joel is, he's known around the world for his pasture rotation methods. I'm actually thinking about trying to contact them about the subject. Anyway like your videos, would like to see more about small farms, market farmers and more food truck type businesses.
@@victorbenner539 We agree, we would love to see more profiles of different makers in the food system who are making their enterprises work. One note on Mr. Salatin, is that his origin story in farming includes growing up on land that his parents had invested in. I think the start up stories for second and first generation family farms will differ in the emphasis on land acquisition and capital construction. As far as soil health building goes - we are implementing perennial systems as the pigs enrich the soil and carefully monitoring a variety of metrics to show soil health improvement over time with our management. Please do feel free to reach out, if you would like to continue the conversation.
@@alluvialfarms7279 truly I was considering traveling north for a visit someday. I live in Southwest Washington essentially on the Cowlitz river ( it backs up and will flood approximately 9 of my ten acres each winter making full land production all year impossible but I have 3/4 of the year to use 😁👍 ) Anyways I'd like to get up there someday. If I can I'll contact you first. Have a great day. 🌤🐖
Victor- good points but what works in Virginia for Joel will not work for all of us. His ability to work his very fertile land without need to irrigate is very unique to his location. It just cannot work for me in Idaho-I run a small beef and pork operation and very little if what Joel can do applies to me.
Thanks I really enjoyed the pig business. It helps in making my decisions
There’s next to no money growing hemp these days. That was more of a 2018 play.
Value added infrastructure will make hemp farming for fiber and seed a lot more profitable, and the studies I have read show that it is already more profitable than other agricultural crops (other than tobacco)
@@chaninjoetilakamonkul8573 being in the industry 20 years hopefully Ive learned a thing or two. The hemp industry requires hemp specific processing equipment, storage, drying, ect. I’ve watched countless groups loose hundreds of millions of dollars because they thought they knew it all from their 50 years of crop experience. Thought they could utilize their existing equipment. Thought they could wet store in bags in the field. Bad genetics/illegal genetics. Thought they could plant late/early. The list of mistakes I’ve seen is endless. The hemp and cannabis industry is fraught with illusion. Makes people think the money is easy and guaranteed. Couldn’t be further from the truth. Hemp and cannabis game is a giant snake pit. Almost no one survives completely vertically integrated. Eventually (within a few years)billion dollar companies will take it all over, and bulldoze the rest.
@@Fullautofreedom I don't doubt that you're right about how it's been, but the limiting factor with industrial hemp production is processing and manufacturing infrastructure. We are basically starting from scratch after prohibition and regrowing won't be easy, but I think its certainly possible.
I think the biggest driving forces will be when hemp food/nutrition, clothing, and industrial materials (eg building houses) becomes mainstream. Thank you for your insights too!
@@chaninjoetilakamonkul8573 you do realize there are processing plants on railways that have biomass brought in via railway and their throughput is 50 tons per day? That’s just one plant in one state. There a lot more of those on that level coming online. They aren’t really known or public. We are definitely not starting from scratch. There’s already massive existing infrastructure. These facilities are in the 50-200million range. And are 50-100k sqft buildings that they own.
I own an engineering company that builds the specific equipment for these people. So I NEED to know everything that’s going on in this industry. We focus on areas that other companies don’t. Scaled solutions for Isolation, conversions, remediation.
@@chaninjoetilakamonkul8573 I too look forward to hemp clothes being cheaper and more main stream. Hempcrete ect as well.
Hi. Great job. I would love to come out and meet you. Thanks for sharing.
I breed BERKSHIRE pig's for 4H projects. They are the best!!! Berk power!!🐷💪
That's amazing Courtney! We love BERKSHIRE pig's and positive farming stories. Thanks for the support and sharing.
I don't understand how you have such low views with such good production
When I wasa kid we had about 25 pigs! We also had ducks, chickens (a few types actually) as well as an assortment of other things! My family owned a turkey farm in N. Carolina as well. Now that I'm older I'd love to have the lifestyle as my family had when I was young!
What a story Larry. Yes the farm life can be amazing and especially for young children.
@@UpFlip my children are all older but how I wish I could have shown them this lifestyle years ago! My youngest son is in the military and is traveling the world. I hope he sees how good basics are and follows in these footsteps! My oldest daughter is a vegan as well as a science teacher. I hope she learns how her way will help the environment and follows a path towards self sustainability! I have 4 children but I'm divorced. There's nothing glorious about living fancy! I don't care who you are! A modest life is the best life there is!
What is the difficulty with operating family farms ? Non farmer here....
"i dont mind getting dirty" LMAO!!!! dude was sooo concerned about his skinny jeans, trying to SHOO the pig away smfh
Awesome video- I’d love to have my own farm someday!
Lots of advice and resources listed in the video and feel free to reach out if you ever want to chat about starting up a new farm enterprise.
Yeahhh
My family was always involved in ranching so I am the first not to Own a ranch Earlier. I just started my own ranch, I look forward to expanding the ranch. I just called my C-r-y-p-t-o Investment Trader in charge of my C-r-y-p-t-o Portfolio to Liquidate $ 150,000 of my Profits. By January the Project will be in Completion. I'm so Excited .. I'm not doing it just for Profits, I just wanna do the Family thing.
@@donaldt6462 That's nice,I plan on retiring in my country home. My family has got a very big ranch there, I think it will be fun though. This Urban buzz gets Tiring. Time to do the Old Family thing.
Can’t believe how friendly they are
Yes i have started a small pig farm since last year but now I want to aim higher so what kind of suggession you would like to suggest or help me more 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
Try to get a usda grant 💵
Nice story. Our dream 10 years ago before losing all my help. One needs a super supportive spouse and family. Mine aren't into so much work. I retired from USDA BTW teaching others how to farm.
Very good vid! Thx!
Do your pigs drink from the creek?
Or you put a water tank during rotational grazing?
How much land and a minimum number of pigs would you recommend for a new farm?
Hi there, thanks for watching and for your question. It is a best management practice to make sure that livestock do not have any contact with running surface water, and that there are vegetative buffers between livestock and water as well to take up manures and nutrients before they reach any surface water. We have a 180' buffer of forest restoration planting and no agricultural activity between the creek on our property and our livestock paddocks. The pigs in the barn drink from nipple waterers that are plumbed into a pressurized system connected to our cistern. The pigs in the field drink from a "water wagon": three 250 gallon cubes on a hay wagon, plumbed in series and to nipple waterers that extend below the wagon.
Hi Andrey, See answer above!
1979 was a horrible year for us. The prices we received for our hogs were well below the cost of production. In 1981 in addition to long cycle of low hog prices; The interest rates sky rocketed to 21.75 % We almost went under
Thanks for the vid great info and very informative. Matt and Katy really got it going on in there pig farm., nice work.! 👍😎 I wonder if I could start a pig farm in Texas or would it be to hot for pigs.?🤔
Pigs are hardly they can live in any claim. Just check the Island Pigs. They don't even have no one to feed them.
I raise hogs in central Texas the heat is an issue but its controlled with shade and we set up pools for the pigs to cool down
@@kristenpayne4036 what kind of pigs? What breed.? Thank you 😊
@@Jreddygo I'd suggest getting pigs from a commercial breeder.
It is amazing watching you'r progress farming updates it is inspirational in did thank you so much.
I have tried to make my own, but I have not been able to find where they sell the products, for example, corn by quantity or wheat and barley. I need to know where they sell it by quantity.my pigs are one of the best in the Georgia region
Luis are you from Georgia?
Ooohhhh, Luis I like it. Keep it up
Try contacting grain/ feed co
ops, State Department of Agriculture or your County Extension may have information as well. Can ask Google about bulk grain sales in your state.
There is a grain broker in our county who has helped us source the field peas. We grow the barley or know other farmers who grow it. The grain broker mostly serves our local dairy community...
Damn,,,,that was awesome thanks for video 👍 watching from Nagaland (India)
Thanks for watching from India Apen. 😀Should we do more videos in farming?
Really enjoyed the video 😊 ..... We too have a pig farm but unfortunately we do not have an infrastructure and machine like them. But it motivate me to keep doing what m doing... Thanks Upflip for this initiatives
Keep working hard Namkenthiu and you will get there!
How nice of them to raise pigs so they can go to good homes, they make wonderful pet's.
Great job folks👍. I love your farm and ideas
Glad you like them!
Wow I love the concept.
It's an awesome farm!
Teach this in our school systems
Haha yup
Great idea, we have some really great Future Farmers of America (FFA) programs in our area, we are working on reaching out to them to see if we can find more ways to collaborate with internships and the like.
The next generation learning about topics like this is very very important. Alluvia Farms is an amazing source of knowledge and inspiration for the youth.
man... it's really tough to run a farm. I wish you guys the best. 👍
The pigs are so beautiful, good job.
They are!
They are beautiful until they are stabbed to death in the slaughterhouse.
sustainability, bioderversity, eco farming, and a community that will support, equals sucess in business.
I'm coming to get ya! Hopefully in 15yrs when I'm your age I'll have gained 200 acres in Washington and develop a fully sustainable farm. For now we have around 5acres but I'm comin y'all!!!
Good luck Willow. Let us know when your ready for an interview :)
Do you exploit and kill your animals for their flesh?
I enjoyed watching the video and what impress most is their great. Ideas of having thei farm , for me it is very inspiring. Thank''s.
You're most welcome and we are glad you enjoyed it! 😊
Y’all need to get some TV deal
Your audio cuts are confusing in the intro. Great quality video and thank you for the information though!
Thank you for the feedback, we'll make some adjustments to future video intro :)
after you minus the overhead cost, federal tax, and state tax, and the cost of new equipments or repairs. the $188k/year there's really not much left.
They break the finances down well in the video Phu.
That's an excellent point. I think one of the reasons we were so thrilled to partner with UpFlip and join the conversation about the economics of farming is to increase discussion about what it takes to grow ethical meat. Farming well and responsibly is not a get rich quick venture. I think it is great that videos like these help the average person to dive a little deeper into the costs of food production and what is behind the prices you pay for your food.
Inspiring video. Watching from Indonesia
Wow, thank you