A week ago (25/11/2023)was at North Queensferry accross from the Forth Bridge during a Chilly and Crisp Saturday morning and was hoping The Sir Nigel Gresley would run through there at 11 :16 in the morning but was told it had broke down and was replaced by a Class 47 and Class 40 ,Around about 7 or 8 people were told it was at Joppa outside the city ,So great video ,Will Just have to wait for another time to see it puff through the Forth Bridge❤Amazing Class 20 Sound ,Hope while it crewe it they can find out what the reason was The SNG had broke down ,Hope it wasn't something inside her boiler or worse.
Thanks for filming this. Hoping she can be repaired quickly. With Britannia and Tornado still out and all those xmas tours to haul, she's needed. Good to see her in stream and zipping along.
I remember when in my early teens waiting for a connection at Crewe on a cold night in winter and the mail train came in and standing beside the loco and getting nicely warmed up but that was in the good? old days when everything was steam, I think we were waiting for the train for Stranraer to get the ferry across to Ireland , happy memories of steam train travel
Great catch if a bit sad but nice to see SNG in steam, got to walk through the tender and ride the footplate of SNG at NYMR for 5 miles last year so have a great fondness of her, thanks for showing this, i have subscribed to you...Mal
Poor old Sir Nigel Gresley, you can't get the same quality parts that you could when it was built. Even the steam coal has to be imported. They should have had 2 Black Fives double heading, that would have been a great sight to see.
Good catch! If I'd realised that the light would stay I would have gone there to see it - went to Wetheral instead. It didnt stop long at Upperby before heading south.n
A reluctant like as I don't like to see SNG broken down! However, hats off to the crew and of Class 20 at the speed of recovery to Crewe. Both engines look great!! Have now checked back to see the problem, and understand why the return to Crewe. Speedy return hopefully.
Was on this tour, as a relatively new railway fan it was an absolute pleasure to ride behind all of the locos involved. Curious - could they have not used the 40 we left behind at York for this rescue?
The class 40 which you left behind at York had travelled up to Scotland pulling the Class 20 with it on Friday evening, the reason they didn’t use the class 40 for the rescue was because that would mean it travelling back up to Scotland and then back down again which would use more fuel and be more expensive, Thanks for the comment!
@@richardharrold9736 During the working from York to Edinburgh on 23/11/23, Sir Nigel Gresley suffered a failure to its right hand cylinder causing large pieces of piston ring to become detached in the steam circuit which caused damage to the valve heads. Thanks for the comment!!
Magnificent scenes of the Steam locomotive Sir Nigel Gresley being rescued and being towed to be repaired, i like it 5 stars, keep up the great work, my friend, I subscribed your channel, Greetings from Portugal to the UK.
Yes I think the issues were only discovered at Edinburgh on Thursday evening, it was then taken to Joppa straight and waited there until Monday morning before leaving with the Class 20! Thanks for the comment!
im new to trainspotting so can i just ask is there any difference between the A4s (i think thats the class they are) or are they just all the same with different names, and could SNG of got the speed record instead of mallard or was there something specific about mallard that allowed it to break that speed record.
In British Railways days they were all pretty much the same apart from detail differences such as some having corridor tenders. They looked different from their appearance pre-war because of the side valances (as per Mallard today) which were removed during the war to make access for maintenance easier. As regards SNG getting the speed record, Mallard was one of 4 A4s fitted with the Kylchap double exhaust system which makes for more free-running steaming and it's thought that this was a factor in gaining the record. SNG didn't have that system at the time (it, along with the others with single chimneys, was fitted with one in the 1950s) so it's unlikely. However, SNG (with Kylchap exhaust) did reach 112mph in 1959.
All A4s are the same, it's just different names and numbers. Technically any A4 could have achieved the record if it had been the loco chosen for the run.
aw it breaks my heart to see it broken douwn i had a trip with ser nigel in 2012 when i last visit u.k from netherlands ad the north yorkshire railroud is it known wy it broken down what was the cause f it ?
Sir Nigel Gresley suffered a failure to its right hand cylinder causing large pieces of piston ring to become detached in the steam circuit, but don’t worry It should be back hauling tours by May this year!
I think it’s a mixture of old spare parts and newly manufactured parts! Although 8 would assume more manufactured parts nowadays, Thanks for the comment!
i heard it wasnt that serious , thats why she was in steam . It was said she would be under her own power yesterday with the 20 for insurance so that does not sound too bad or costly thankfully
During the working from York to Edinburgh on 23/11/23, Sir Nigel Gresley suffered a failure to its RH cylinder causing large pieces of piston ring to become detached in the steam circuit which caused damage to the valve heads. (Information from a Facebook post, but I have seen lots of other posts saying the same.) Thanks for the comment!!
SNG was in light steam to keep the cylinders and other moving parts lubricated, I think it had a quick repair done while in Scotland just to get it working enough to be able to return to Crewe where it will get repaired properly! Thanks for the comment!
Sir Nigel Gresley suffered a failure to its right hand cylinder causing large pieces of piston ring to become detached in the steam circuit which caused damage to the valve heads. Thanks for the comment!
During the working from York to Edinburgh on 23/11/23, Sir Nigel Gresley suffered a failure to its right hand cylinder causing large pieces of piston ring to become detached in the steam circuit which caused damage to the valve heads. Thanks for the comment!!
When you see the amount of pollution coming out the chimney of that kettle you have to ask is it ecologically sound to keep them running rather than give em a good lick of paint and grease and put them in a museum ? class 20 was purring nicely and not pouring clag out into the atmosphere as so many heritage diesels seem to.
If you knew steam engines, you'd guess they were keeping a minimum "holding fire" going for lubrication purposes. The clouds you see are "wet steam", from where the boiler is at minimum temperature and the superheaters are not working.
No Diesel likes to be left running off load for hours on end or even running slow speed and light heritage trains. They need to be worked hard and kept up-to-temperature.
Nice video! Sir Nigel Gresley is a very elegant loco, love the express passenger blue livery on it! Class 20s are nice too. 👌
A week ago (25/11/2023)was at North Queensferry accross from the Forth Bridge during a Chilly and Crisp Saturday morning and was hoping The Sir Nigel Gresley would run through there at 11 :16 in the morning but was told it had broke down and was replaced by a Class 47 and Class 40 ,Around about 7 or 8 people were told it was at Joppa outside the city ,So great video ,Will Just have to wait for another time to see it puff through the Forth Bridge❤Amazing Class 20 Sound ,Hope while it crewe it they can find out what the reason was The SNG had broke down ,Hope it wasn't something inside her boiler or worse.
Thanks for filming this. Hoping she can be repaired quickly. With Britannia and Tornado still out and all those xmas tours to haul, she's needed. Good to see her in stream and zipping along.
And no 35028 or 46233 either...
chopper power nice to see a whistler in motion rescuing a puff-puff 😀 nice video 🥰
Nice to see the crew coach is being kept warm 😅😅😅
Haha yes 😂
I've never really seen many class 20s, but didnt think they'd be that fast, thats proper shifting along!
Top speed 75mph. Most BR diesels had top speeds in the 80-90mph range.
@@beeble2003 75mph is a lot more than I expected!
I remember when in my early teens waiting for a connection at Crewe on a cold night in winter and the mail train came in and standing beside the loco and getting nicely warmed up but that was in the good? old days when everything was steam, I think we were waiting for the train for Stranraer to get the ferry across to Ireland , happy memories of steam train travel
Great catch if a bit sad but nice to see SNG in steam, got to walk through the tender and ride the footplate of SNG at NYMR for 5 miles last year so have a great fondness of her, thanks for showing this, i have subscribed to you...Mal
Thank you very much! Yes it is a but sad to see, but the class 20 was quite nice!
So wanted to see this rescue , thank you .
No problem! It was an amazing sight to see!! Thanks for the comment!!
@@TRAlNVlDEOS it was deserved , and seeing the 20 in thrash mode was excellent 👌
Excellent,really enjoyed it thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
What a combination
20s . . . best diesel loco for reliability!
It's a very interesting train footage indeed !! Greetings from India.
Thanks!
Great video ..I managed to see her at Hartford Station in Cheshire yesterday. Hope sre is out snd about soon.
Yes I hope it’s back out soon too! Thanks for the comment!
Great content. Was looking for a vid on the rescue mission.👍
Thank you!!
Great to see a single Class 20 at speed.
Yes I agree!
hi. i thought it broke down the other day, good old class 20 the rescue, Thunderbirds are go !
Yes it broke down on Thursday evening sadly, Thanks for the comment!!
Poor old Sir Nigel Gresley, you can't get the same quality parts that you could when it was built.
Even the steam coal has to be imported.
They should have had 2 Black Fives double heading, that would have been a great sight to see.
I was glad to see Sir Nigel Gresley! I was planning to see it in York yesterday but for obvious reasons it couldn’t attend! Thanks for the comment!!
The A4 can do 75mph, the Black Five can't.
When it gets upto speed, A4's suffer from wheelslip.@@richardharrold9736
Good catch! If I'd realised that the light would stay I would have gone there to see it - went to Wetheral instead. It didnt stop long at Upperby before heading south.n
It didn’t luckily we made it to Penrith in time, despite almost running out of fuel 😂 Thanks for the comment!
A reluctant like as I don't like to see SNG broken down! However, hats off to the crew and of Class 20 at the speed of recovery to Crewe. Both engines look great!! Have now checked back to see the problem, and understand why the return to Crewe. Speedy return hopefully.
Yes hopefully it’s back out soon! Thanks for the comment!
Great footage, just subscribed 😀
Thank you very much!
Was on this tour, as a relatively new railway fan it was an absolute pleasure to ride behind all of the locos involved. Curious - could they have not used the 40 we left behind at York for this rescue?
The 40 continued the tour.
The class 40 which you left behind at York had travelled up to Scotland pulling the Class 20 with it on Friday evening, the reason they didn’t use the class 40 for the rescue was because that would mean it travelling back up to Scotland and then back down again which would use more fuel and be more expensive, Thanks for the comment!
@@TRAlNVlDEOS what went wrong with 60007 anyway?
@@richardharrold9736 During the working from York to Edinburgh on 23/11/23, Sir Nigel Gresley suffered a failure to its right hand cylinder causing large pieces of piston ring to become detached in the steam circuit which caused damage to the valve heads. Thanks for the comment!!
Magnificent scenes of the Steam locomotive Sir Nigel Gresley being rescued and being towed to be repaired, i like it 5 stars, keep up the great work, my friend, I subscribed your channel, Greetings from Portugal to the UK.
Thank yo7 very much!!
@@TRAlNVlDEOS my pleasure, mate.
@@TRAlNVlDEOS hope you enjoy my videos of the Portuguese trains.
@@TRAlNVlDEOS it would be nice to have you as my new subscriber.
@@LisbonRailProductionsandF1 I’ll have a look! I am sure they are very interesting 👍
Thanks for posting, I had wonder what had happened. Did the loco make it to Edinburgh at all?
Yes I think the issues were only discovered at Edinburgh on Thursday evening, it was then taken to Joppa straight and waited there until Monday morning before leaving with the Class 20! Thanks for the comment!
@@TRAlNVlDEOS Damn, I wish I had of known. I was in Joppa on Saturday might have been able to catch a glimpse from the industrial next door.
The train seems to be going a bit fast through Crewe. It needs to slow down. At least if that is where it will be repaired.
If you mean in the second shot that was at Penrith not Crewe, Thanks for the comment!
Finally, what happened to Sir NG ? Has it been repaired ?
Yes has been repaired, coincidentally i am actually going to see it again today so the video will be out later if your interested 👍
@@TRAlNVlDEOS Yes, thank you. Greetings from Belgium !
Great footage! Can I share this please?
Sure just give credit if possible! Thanks
im new to trainspotting so can i just ask is there any difference between the A4s (i think thats the class they are) or are they just all the same with different names, and could SNG of got the speed record instead of mallard or was there something specific about mallard that allowed it to break that speed record.
In British Railways days they were all pretty much the same apart from detail differences such as some having corridor tenders. They looked different from their appearance pre-war because of the side valances (as per Mallard today) which were removed during the war to make access for maintenance easier. As regards SNG getting the speed record, Mallard was one of 4 A4s fitted with the Kylchap double exhaust system which makes for more free-running steaming and it's thought that this was a factor in gaining the record. SNG didn't have that system at the time (it, along with the others with single chimneys, was fitted with one in the 1950s) so it's unlikely. However, SNG (with Kylchap exhaust) did reach 112mph in 1959.
@@tonyramsden4153 Thanks for all the info! Very interesting too!
All A4s are the same, it's just different names and numbers. Technically any A4 could have achieved the record if it had been the loco chosen for the run.
aw it breaks my heart to see it broken douwn i had a trip with ser nigel in 2012 when i last visit u.k from netherlands ad the north yorkshire railroud is it known wy it broken down what was the cause f it ?
Sir Nigel Gresley suffered a failure to its right hand cylinder causing large pieces of piston ring to become detached in the steam circuit, but don’t worry It should be back hauling tours by May this year!
@@TRAlNVlDEOS thanx for the info mate
Do they have to make new parts or do they have any old stock to use?
I think it’s a mixture of old spare parts and newly manufactured parts! Although 8 would assume more manufactured parts nowadays, Thanks for the comment!
Mk1 coach , is that used for staff and spare parts ?
Yes I think so, Thanks for the comment!
It looks like the damage cannot be as serious as I thought if she can run in light steam at speed.
i heard it wasnt that serious , thats why she was in steam . It was said she would be under her own power yesterday with the 20 for insurance so that does not sound too bad or costly thankfully
@@nickedwards2904 Glad to hear that
Wow, not bad trains
Locomotives
@@emt43043 well spotted!
What part failed on sng
During the working from York to Edinburgh on 23/11/23, Sir Nigel Gresley suffered a failure to its RH cylinder causing large pieces of piston ring to become detached in the steam circuit which caused damage to the valve heads. (Information from a Facebook post, but I have seen lots of other posts saying the same.) Thanks for the comment!!
What;'s the first location ?
The first location is at London Road junction in Carlisle just as it was entering Upperby
Why was SNG still in steam if it had broken down?
SNG was in light steam to keep the cylinders and other moving parts lubricated, I think it had a quick repair done while in Scotland just to get it working enough to be able to return to Crewe where it will get repaired properly! Thanks for the comment!
Yeah we watched them do some work to Nigel on Friday night,unaware there was issues lol
@@TRAlNVlDEOS - thanks for replying! Much appreciated.
@@atomicdave1987 No problem!! Thanks for watching!!
What was it that failed on SNG?
Sir Nigel Gresley suffered a failure to its right hand cylinder causing large pieces of piston ring to become detached in the steam circuit which caused damage to the valve heads. Thanks for the comment!
What had even happened to SNG?
During the working from York to Edinburgh on 23/11/23, Sir Nigel Gresley suffered a failure to its right hand cylinder causing large pieces of piston ring to become detached in the steam circuit which caused damage to the valve heads. Thanks for the comment!!
Where did it fail ?
It failed in Edinburgh and was taken to Joppa straight on Thursday evening, this was it returning to Crewe, Thanks for the comment!
When you see the amount of pollution coming out the chimney of that kettle you have to ask is it ecologically sound to keep them running rather than give em a good lick of paint and grease and put them in a museum ? class 20 was purring nicely and not pouring clag out into the atmosphere as so many heritage diesels seem to.
If you knew steam engines, you'd guess they were keeping a minimum "holding fire" going for lubrication purposes. The clouds you see are "wet steam", from where the boiler is at minimum temperature and the superheaters are not working.
The device you wrote that comment on creates more pollution per kg then that loco would
No Diesel likes to be left running off load for hours on end or even running slow speed and light heritage trains. They need to be worked hard and kept up-to-temperature.
I bet you're fun at parties.
@DukemeisterBass omg I was going to say that 😂 beat me to it 🙈