I've been looking for a new 1/4" driver handle for my main tool bag and had never seen the locking version. It's a game changer around boats where dropping sockets can be into the water. I have an auto store version with a flex shaft that gets a lot of use. Thanks!
I get a lot of use out of the little Koken 2771Z 1/4" drive ball type universal joint. It's not only very short, but has a small OD. It along with their 'Z' series short sockets are often just the ticket in 'stoopid' tight quarters. Never used the u-joint for breaking loose big/tight stuff... it was obviously never intended for that.
I've been using the Hazet handle + 1/4" hex bit adapter + 1/4" bits in a 853HP socket set and this combo has absolutely no play after using mine for about 2 years, really impressive. Stahlwille also has socket sets where everything is with a locking button, which I haven't touched in real life but its nice to know. Thanks for the video.
Hello again Doc Thank you for another Great Video 👍 That is a great idea, I haven't seen this tool on the job yet!!!!! You said this is from Cal Van tools. I am going to have to check them out!!!! Again thank you 😊
Quite wobbly and rather a low quality built, but saved me several times: a 1/4" drive telescoping spinner handle, such as the Harbor Freight PITTSBURGH PRO 67978. Add a ratchet at the female end for amazing torque and range when fully extended.
I have that stahlwille locking quarter inch drive handle, the same one you have there. I can't stand using it because of the wiggle of any socket you put on it. The only socket that doesn't wiggle is the koken zeal semi-deep metric sockets. I am shocked to see that your socket has almost no play . Maybe I got a defective one. So I use that rubberized handle snap on that is also in the video. Somehow I ended up with 2 of them. But I like the snap on way much more. I still use the stahlwille when I have to remove plastic fasteners because the socket almost always gets stuck on it. I do like the handle and small size of the stahlwille. Great video thanks for posting
I mostly use the Laser 7808. Also holds hex bits! For lighter stuff, or easier to reach, I use various hex bit drivers (like the PB swiss stubby or the Gedore 2675) with hex to square adapters.
I Just bought three for 1/4, 5/16, 3/8. The extensions work the same way and I use them with my quick release ratchets replacing all my Snap On extensions.
I think I have an old Mac with a yellow acetate handle that I never use. I honestly don't have a use for one. If I can use a ratchet or impact that's my goto. I rarely have an instance where I can't use a ratchet. I do use a 1/4" bit driver. I have the Felo K ratchet adjustable head. You could put an adapter on that to get the ratchet function.
I use a Wiha 1/4" hex bit driver (12 in long) with a 1/4" hex to 1/4" square adapter. Works great. I just purchase a Wera 1/4" hex bit driver set that you can use the 1/4" square adapter. But Wiha feels better in your palm than Wera for those really tight bolts. Thanks.
One thing to note Doc, I bought a t25 torx screwdriver from Stahlwille and under high torque the shaft actually spun in the handle. Th sheaf is about a quarter of the the thickness of the driver handle you got though.
I have a few different spinner handles. My favourites are Beta Grip, which feel good in the hand and don't have too much play on the drive end - some spinner handles are ridiculously loose. I did have that Blue Point one you showed, but I got rid of it because I found the handle too big and bulky.
I use the hard handle snap on, but it's twice as long as yours though. They're nothing but an extension with a handle, simple but intelligently designed.
I find Gedore 2098 one of the best handles of this kind. It is quite small (145mm) and light (78g), but the handle grip is awesome. It is much better than Proxxon 23702, although the latter has the 1/4" extention square on top.
The Napa Evercraft ones (Part # BK 7741277) are only $3.50 and have a solid core through the handle with a 1/4" square at the rear for putting an extension or breaker bar on.
FYI when it has a female drive in the handle it's a spinner handle, when it doesn't it's just a driver handle. My go-to is the Wright 2442 spinner handle, it's very simple straightforward tool and I chose Wright tool when building my 1/4" kit so I have the Wright spinner handle. I also have the 2441 driver handle because stock photo mixups make it easy to order the wrong one. If the company makes both I'll take the spinner handle 100% of the time, and when choosing a company for building a set that is a determining factor for me because I just find spinner handles to be so useful. It just bugs me when a company makes a typical length 6" handle that isn't a spinner handle, there's just no reason not to. And to make one that's not a solid through shank ?, that takes extra work to make. Take the Wright 2442 for example, to make it they just put a crimp in their 6" extension before HT and now it's a spinner handle shank.
If somebody made a T-handle with 1/4" hex on the end and 1/4" square on the side I'd buy one right now! It's rare I use 1/4" sockets but when I do it's higher torque then you'd get from an inline/screwdriver handle.
Super easy! Start with a T-handle with two 1/4" hex ends, one on the shaft and one on the side (look for "dual purpose screwdriver" on Amazon). Then get a short 1/4" hex to 1/4" square adaptor (Wiha 72110 for example) that will fit on the side of the T-handle. And voilà: the inline end of the T-handle can be used for screwdriver bits, and the other end for sockets. Or you can go the other way. Start with a T-handle with two 1/4" square ends that fits sockets at both ends, but this time use a 1/4" square to 1/4" hex adaptor for your screwdriver bits. The Kobalt 856863 has everything included and will provide great torque.
Not bad, I'm a WRIGHT guy so I bought their 2442 spinner handle but it's almost double that a lot of places. I believe I payed $18, and you have to watch out that you don't accidentally buy the 2441 driver handle because the pictures often get mixed up. Some places even photoshop the model number off and use the same picture for both. That is why I own both the 2441 and 2442.
@@robg836 one piece. They literally just take their #2406 extension and crimp a pair of flanges into it before heat treat and finishing. What you're seeing is probably the dead space where the countersunk hole is straight while the shoulder of the extension / shaft is concave.
These may be simple and effective, but in my case, not very useful in the engine bay. I have a several of these, including the flexible one, but so far, I've yet to come across a situation where one of these were advantageous over a ratchet.
Hey, Doc, don't get sad about your Stahlwille pronunciation. :) Check out the hTqitXgBqsk movie at either 0:22 or 0:34 or 1:00. The guy's native language is German, so he says it in the most correct way one can do.
@@3vil3lvis interesting question. Yes, a few smaller ones, like 8mm and smaller but it's tight under the cowling and the smaller ratchets and handles seems to get in there better, allowing for more dexterity.
I've been looking for a new 1/4" driver handle for my main tool bag and had never seen the locking version. It's a game changer around boats where dropping sockets can be into the water. I have an auto store version with a flex shaft that gets a lot of use. Thanks!
Stahlwille makes tools for the aviation industry, so FOD is a big part of their lineup.
@@BL-yj2wp FOD?
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Foreign object damage, there are environments where nothing may drop accidentally or it could cause problems in the system later.
Wera zyklop 1/4 ratchet and a variety of their lockable extensions for me
Me too!
I use the Stahwille one in your video. No complaints.
I get a lot of use out of the little Koken 2771Z 1/4" drive ball type universal joint.
It's not only very short, but has a small OD. It along with their 'Z' series short sockets are often just the ticket in 'stoopid' tight quarters.
Never used the u-joint for breaking loose big/tight stuff... it was obviously never intended for that.
Koken makes a decent 1/4 drive handle. It also has a 1/4 insert on the back so it can double as a ratchet extension. Super cool
I've been using the Hazet handle + 1/4" hex bit adapter + 1/4" bits in a 853HP socket set and this combo has absolutely no play after using mine for about 2 years, really impressive. Stahlwille also has socket sets where everything is with a locking button, which I haven't touched in real life but its nice to know. Thanks for the video.
Hello again Doc
Thank you for another Great Video 👍 That is a great idea, I haven't seen this tool on the job yet!!!!! You said this is from Cal Van tools. I am going to have to check them out!!!! Again thank you 😊
Great video
I like the nut drivers with the hole shafts wera is my favorite so far
Quite wobbly and rather a low quality built, but saved me several times: a 1/4" drive telescoping spinner handle, such as the Harbor Freight PITTSBURGH PRO 67978. Add a ratchet at the female end for amazing torque and range when fully extended.
I have that stahlwille locking quarter inch drive handle, the same one you have there. I can't stand using it because of the wiggle of any socket you put on it. The only socket that doesn't wiggle is the koken zeal semi-deep metric sockets. I am shocked to see that your socket has almost no play . Maybe I got a defective one. So I use that rubberized handle snap on that is also in the video. Somehow I ended up with 2 of them. But I like the snap on way much more. I still use the stahlwille when I have to remove plastic fasteners because the socket almost always gets stuck on it. I do like the handle and small size of the stahlwille. Great video thanks for posting
I mostly use the Laser 7808. Also holds hex bits!
For lighter stuff, or easier to reach, I use various hex bit drivers (like the PB swiss stubby or the Gedore 2675) with hex to square adapters.
I Just bought three for 1/4, 5/16, 3/8. The extensions work the same way and I use them with my quick release ratchets replacing all my Snap On extensions.
Your pronunciation of Stahlwille is getting better. In German, all letters get pronounced-no silent letters. It isn’t French after all.
I think I have an old Mac with a yellow acetate handle that I never use. I honestly don't have a use for one. If I can use a ratchet or impact that's my goto. I rarely have an instance where I can't use a ratchet. I do use a 1/4" bit driver. I have the Felo K ratchet adjustable head. You could put an adapter on that to get the ratchet function.
Pretty good looking driver.
I use a Wiha 1/4" hex bit driver (12 in long) with a 1/4" hex to 1/4" square adapter. Works great. I just purchase a Wera 1/4" hex bit driver set that you can use the 1/4" square adapter. But Wiha feels better in your palm than Wera for those really tight bolts. Thanks.
Right now I just have two USA made craftsman one from my father and one from my grandfather... haven't seen the need to get another one yet
One thing to note Doc, I bought a t25 torx screwdriver from Stahlwille and under high torque the shaft actually spun in the handle. Th sheaf is about a quarter of the the thickness of the driver handle you got though.
Facom R2NANO kit contains very nice 1/4 spinner handle with short tip
Yeah I too have that set and was thinking the same, its made in France.
I don’t know if it’s the best but I like the Snap-on TM4CSAR. It’s a hard handle with the female square drive on the end
I have a few different spinner handles. My favourites are Beta Grip, which feel good in the hand and don't have too much play on the drive end - some spinner handles are ridiculously loose. I did have that Blue Point one you showed, but I got rid of it because I found the handle too big and bulky.
I use the hard handle snap on, but it's twice as long as yours though. They're nothing but an extension with a handle, simple but intelligently designed.
I have a older hard handle snap that I use, I want to get the instinct handle 3/8 Dive Handle!
To save weight & items in my bag I bought a Wera 8000 A SB. It was replacing the Bahco 1/4" 6956 and the Bahco Ratchet (SBS61) .
The Wera 8000 series is outstanding
For a true handle, I use a Koken 3/8s in my motorcycle tool kit so all sockets/bits/etc can work on a ratchet and on the handle if needed.
You should check out the Snap-on 1/4" Drive 8-1/8" Locking Instinct Handle Driver (Red) SGTL4BR
I find Gedore 2098 one of the best handles of this kind. It is quite small (145mm) and light (78g), but the handle grip is awesome. It is much better than Proxxon 23702, although the latter has the 1/4" extention square on top.
The Napa Evercraft ones (Part # BK 7741277) are only $3.50 and have a solid core through the handle with a 1/4" square at the rear for putting an extension or breaker bar on.
I use Mac's locking ones.
So what's wrong with using your favourite hex bit driver, with couple of hex to square adapters (one for 3/8 and one for 1/4)?
FYI when it has a female drive in the handle it's a spinner handle, when it doesn't it's just a driver handle.
My go-to is the Wright 2442 spinner handle, it's very simple straightforward tool and I chose Wright tool when building my 1/4" kit so I have the Wright spinner handle.
I also have the 2441 driver handle because stock photo mixups make it easy to order the wrong one.
If the company makes both I'll take the spinner handle 100% of the time, and when choosing a company for building a set that is a determining factor for me because I just find spinner handles to be so useful.
It just bugs me when a company makes a typical length 6" handle that isn't a spinner handle, there's just no reason not to.
And to make one that's not a solid through shank ?, that takes extra work to make.
Take the Wright 2442 for example, to make it they just put a crimp in their 6" extension before HT and now it's a spinner handle shank.
If somebody made a T-handle with 1/4" hex on the end and 1/4" square on the side I'd buy one right now! It's rare I use 1/4" sockets but when I do it's higher torque then you'd get from an inline/screwdriver handle.
Super easy! Start with a T-handle with two 1/4" hex ends, one on the shaft and one on the side (look for "dual purpose screwdriver" on Amazon). Then get a short 1/4" hex to 1/4" square adaptor (Wiha 72110 for example) that will fit on the side of the T-handle. And voilà: the inline end of the T-handle can be used for screwdriver bits, and the other end for sockets.
Or you can go the other way. Start with a T-handle with two 1/4" square ends that fits sockets at both ends, but this time use a 1/4" square to 1/4" hex adaptor for your screwdriver bits. The Kobalt 856863 has everything included and will provide great torque.
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I have Gearwrench 1/4" driver handles.. they're good..
My favorite is the Proto J4769. Only $11
Not bad, I'm a WRIGHT guy so I bought their 2442 spinner handle but it's almost double that a lot of places.
I believe I payed $18, and you have to watch out that you don't accidentally buy the 2441 driver handle because the pictures often get mixed up.
Some places even photoshop the model number off and use the same picture for both.
That is why I own both the 2441 and 2442.
@@TylerSnyder305 Is the shank one solid piece on the Wright? It looks like two separate pieces in the pictures
@@robg836 one piece.
They literally just take their #2406 extension and crimp a pair of flanges into it before heat treat and finishing.
What you're seeing is probably the dead space where the countersunk hole is straight while the shoulder of the extension / shaft is concave.
These may be simple and effective, but in my case, not very useful in the engine bay. I have a several of these, including the flexible one, but so far, I've yet to come across a situation where one of these were advantageous over a ratchet.
Break it free with the ratchet and spin it out w the handle. Get it started with the handle and spin it down, then tighten w the ratchet.
Williams makes the best T handle in my opinion. It is built like the Snap On ratcheting screwdrivers.
German to English. Stahwille = Steel Will. My Deutsch is a little rusty.
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Hey, Doc, don't get sad about your Stahlwille pronunciation. :) Check out the hTqitXgBqsk movie at either 0:22 or 0:34 or 1:00. The guy's native language is German, so he says it in the most correct way one can do.
Honestly, I find 1/4 inch to be the least useful drive size.
Whats the most 'useful' size? I have heaps of 1/4", 3/8, 1/2" & bit of 3/4". I find 1/4" very useful. Depends what you do I suppose.
@@aussiehardwood6196 3/8 chrome, 1/2 Impact, rarely 3/4 Impact, 1/4 chrome.. in that order.
It's literally the most useful size on outboard motors below, say, 150hp.
@@chiphill4856 Are there 1/4 inch sizes on outboard motors that are not available in 3/8?
@@3vil3lvis interesting question. Yes, a few smaller ones, like 8mm and smaller but it's tight under the cowling and the smaller ratchets and handles seems to get in there better, allowing for more dexterity.
Perfect for snugging something up and then using the tool you should have used in the first place to tighten.
Completely worthless.