It's not wrong, but something that makes so different the boys and berserk is the relationship between guts and griffith, which is non existing between billy and homelander
Yeah Butcher and Homelander were little more than passersby’s before their beef started. Guts and Griffith were best friends, practically brothers. Maybe a possibility of being lovers if things had been different… really drives home the betrayal
@@CrimsonStag05 Even more than that, brothers in arms, they fought side by side and faced death together. They had a crazy bond, and then Griffith sacrificed.
especially after s1. In s1 they felt more like mirrors to eachother, like rivals in ways without powers. Homelander was calculated, cold. Butcher was brutal and trusted others instead of relying on his own self and smarts. They didn't have as good of a thing as Guts and Griffith but had something. Now look at em
i definity agree. From my studies on storytelling story writing is very formulaic so its only natural that a story covering the same themes would have very similar plot points
...so 2 things.... 1st,it's a great video,very well thought out and accurate,so I'm giving you a sub for your channel for hitting me with facts I hadn't noticed in an articulate way. 2nd,I have a question. You had mentioned near the end of your video how both guts and butcher could have stopped their respective antagonists if the let their loved one die at points. My question is at which point in berserk were you talking about? 13:22
@@Brightest_day727 I believe when Griffith was being resurrected guts had the option to try and kill Griffith rather then saving casca, but I am unsure if it would’ve even worked given grifiths powers. Just that skull knight mentions it’s a choice he will have to make
@bestlobjagamer348 is nothing like Berserk and i said like a humble guy that read this manga for so long. The Boys is like Super Hero stuff that CLEARLY go with the trend of superhero movies and Berserk is a demon hunter vibe with medieval fantasy. Also, saying "im ignorant" for say its nothing like Berserk says a lot about you
@@RJR4646 yes you are ignorant, its different, but there are many similarities between characters and story, i am reading berserk for 2nd time now and i have watched the boys too
@@bestlobjagamer348 honestly, they stand out more cause of their differences rather than their simils, and it is only in the disadvantaged power dynamic between the protagonist and the fake saviour antagonist. But even that is managed compeltly different in both works for so many circustancial and tone reasons to the point it transforms into another kind of animal. The conexion is a little too superficial
@fernandoreimpell2818 exactly, its superficial and almost inexistent. Of couse you can argue that The Boys have similarities, but every revenge story has. I think if we gonna go with similarities, The Count of Monte Cristo have more similarities than The Boys (but of course the book cames first and after that we got the movie from 2002)
Bro literally when i watched the boys i was like " So only reason Billy lives is so that he can avenge his wife who was raped someone with superhuman powers? and he also has choice to insert compound V and become someone who he hates just so he can kill Homelander ( literal same as Guts having behelit and possibilty of sacrificing his friends to become what he hates to have chance of retaliation)
That’s what I’m thinking to guts and Billy have similar demeanor and Griffith and homelander are idolized and famed for being good but there both psychopaths
Great video, I do have to disagree on one point. The moonlight boy isn’t part of Griffith, his assault on Casca corrupted him. The only reason he is connected to Griffith is because the Egg of the perfect world swallowed him and he became part of his physical vessel.
The issue is berserk isn’t a delivery system for annoying or in some cases repugnant political views, whereas the boys only exists to shove that shit down your throat and occasionally has some plot beats. They’re not the same
I Mean your not Entirely Wrong! But Berserk has Literal Cosmic Horror and Unimaginable Horror and Demons and Gods along with the Afterlife in Comparison! Also Griffith Rape is Definitely Worse as Casca literally went insane and their Unborn Child was Corrupted by Griffith Demonic Fluids! Where as Becca is Completely Fine! Combine with the Fact! Berserk makes The Boys Universe look like An Absolute Paradise for Guts to Live and Thrive on! Not the Mention in terms of Darkness and Threats Berserk is Easily way Worse to the point it’s not even a Contest! I mean The Boys Literally takes place in our World! Just with People with Superpowers! Where as Berserk is Literally just pure Dark Fantasy!!! I mean we call all agree Griffith is worse Than Homelander! As Griffith is Pure Evil and is Wayyy more Manipulative caculating and Powerful as he’s Literally a God in Comparison! Through I wonder if Guts and Butcher can Survive in either Positions if they were Switched? Not to Mention Unlike Butcher Guts is a Literal Superhuman! Also let’s be Real Guts as Aboustly fought and Seen Way worse than Butcher in his lifetime! And Guts Waaaayyyyyy more Tragic!
@@user-adrsilva123 absolutely, I don’t mean to compare the struggles of each characters world as harder or darker. My only intention was to highlight the parallels between the two stories and characters.
@@buffalobilltv3306 Through After Read my Comment and Reading and Watching all of Berserk down to its last Bit! Can Guts and Butcher survives in Either Position if They Positions were Switched? Cause We all know Berserk Not just makes the Boys Universe look like An Aboustle Paradise for Guts to Live and Thrive in! But Basically lives Peacefully and Just a Mere Children Playground In Comparison! Like No Mattter What! The Boys Universe is Absolutely Nothing Compared to the Berserk Universe like Straight up Nothing! Not even Trying to Compared! But if we had to! You know The Boys Shouldn’t even be the one Same level of Berserk like At all!!!
Not a fan of that comparison. The boys isn't even in the same hemisphere as berserk. The hero's journey is in so many things with deviations. Honestly I just can't stand the boys, invincible is sooo much better, what's with the hype around the boys.. Woke obnoxious narcissistic bullshit for dim wits in my opinion. have a great day :)
It's not wrong, but something that makes so different the boys and berserk is the relationship between guts and griffith, which is non existing between billy and homelander
Yeah Butcher and Homelander were little more than passersby’s before their beef started. Guts and Griffith were best friends, practically brothers. Maybe a possibility of being lovers if things had been different… really drives home the betrayal
@@CrimsonStag05 Even more than that, brothers in arms, they fought side by side and faced death together. They had a crazy bond, and then Griffith sacrificed.
especially after s1. In s1 they felt more like mirrors to eachother, like rivals in ways without powers. Homelander was calculated, cold. Butcher was brutal and trusted others instead of relying on his own self and smarts.
They didn't have as good of a thing as Guts and Griffith but had something. Now look at em
There are a lot of similarities but still they are a lot different
i definity agree. From my studies on storytelling story writing is very formulaic so its only natural that a story covering the same themes would have very similar plot points
Lmfao me when two pieces of media revolving around revenge have similarities:
This idea hooked me immediately while scrolling....
...so 2 things....
1st,it's a great video,very well thought out and accurate,so I'm giving you a sub for your channel for hitting me with facts I hadn't noticed in an articulate way.
2nd,I have a question. You had mentioned near the end of your video how both guts and butcher could have stopped their respective antagonists if the let their loved one die at points. My question is at which point in berserk were you talking about?
13:22
@@Brightest_day727 I believe when Griffith was being resurrected guts had the option to try and kill Griffith rather then saving casca, but I am unsure if it would’ve even worked given grifiths powers. Just that skull knight mentions it’s a choice he will have to make
I don’t remember the chapter but it’s during the ceremony at the conviction arc
The Boys is nothing like Berserk. This argument is the same thing than say Sword Art Online is the same story of Berserk
to say " its nothing like berserk " is exxageration, you are either ignorant or havent watched the boys
@bestlobjagamer348 is nothing like Berserk and i said like a humble guy that read this manga for so long. The Boys is like Super Hero stuff that CLEARLY go with the trend of superhero movies and Berserk is a demon hunter vibe with medieval fantasy. Also, saying "im ignorant" for say its nothing like Berserk says a lot about you
@@RJR4646 yes you are ignorant, its different, but there are many similarities between characters and story, i am reading berserk for 2nd time now and i have watched the boys too
@@bestlobjagamer348 honestly, they stand out more cause of their differences rather than their simils, and it is only in the disadvantaged power dynamic between the protagonist and the fake saviour antagonist. But even that is managed compeltly different in both works for so many circustancial and tone reasons to the point it transforms into another kind of animal. The conexion is a little too superficial
@fernandoreimpell2818 exactly, its superficial and almost inexistent. Of couse you can argue that The Boys have similarities, but every revenge story has. I think if we gonna go with similarities, The Count of Monte Cristo have more similarities than The Boys (but of course the book cames first and after that we got the movie from 2002)
goated video dude never even saw the connection and this video broke it down really well, loved every minute of it 🙏
Bro literally when i watched the boys i was like " So only reason Billy lives is so that he can avenge his wife who was raped someone with superhuman powers? and he also has choice to insert compound V and become someone who he hates just so he can kill Homelander ( literal same as Guts having behelit and possibilty of sacrificing his friends to become what he hates to have chance of retaliation)
Wow, this is a really amazing video
I hadn't even thought about it before, but it really makes sense...
Thank you, I’ve told this idea to people irl before and they think I’m crazy
That’s what I’m thinking to guts and Billy have similar demeanor and Griffith and homelander are idolized and famed for being good but there both psychopaths
Reasonable “hear me out”. 👍
if that is the premise, there are ton on the copy of the story
GRIFFITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Great video, I do have to disagree on one point. The moonlight boy isn’t part of Griffith, his assault on Casca corrupted him. The only reason he is connected to Griffith is because the Egg of the perfect world swallowed him and he became part of his physical vessel.
whats the song in the background
Behelit, berserk 1997
@ brooo thank you smmm i was trying to find this song for like 3 days 😂
They arent but yeah theres parallels.
great video 👍🏻 keep it up
God... No
Dragon ball z is like Pokémon
1 point you comparing all of this to the show ut talking about garth innes the comics and the show are really different
Explain yourself then we’ll break you on the wheel
No…
Me ganaste
Dumb idea, they are not even close, almost no story beats are the same
The issue is berserk isn’t a delivery system for annoying or in some cases repugnant political views, whereas the boys only exists to shove that shit down your throat and occasionally has some plot beats.
They’re not the same
I Mean your not Entirely Wrong! But Berserk has Literal Cosmic Horror and Unimaginable Horror and Demons and Gods along with the Afterlife in Comparison! Also Griffith Rape is Definitely Worse as Casca literally went insane and their Unborn Child was Corrupted by Griffith Demonic Fluids! Where as Becca is Completely Fine! Combine with the Fact! Berserk makes The Boys Universe look like An Absolute Paradise for Guts to Live and Thrive on! Not the Mention in terms of Darkness and Threats Berserk is Easily way Worse to the point it’s not even a Contest! I mean The Boys Literally takes place in our World! Just with People with Superpowers! Where as Berserk is Literally just pure Dark Fantasy!!! I mean we call all agree Griffith is worse Than Homelander! As Griffith is Pure Evil and is Wayyy more Manipulative caculating and Powerful as he’s Literally a God in Comparison! Through I wonder if Guts and Butcher can Survive in either Positions if they were Switched? Not to Mention Unlike Butcher Guts is a Literal Superhuman! Also let’s be Real Guts as Aboustly fought and Seen Way worse than Butcher in his lifetime! And Guts Waaaayyyyyy more Tragic!
@@user-adrsilva123 absolutely, I don’t mean to compare the struggles of each characters world as harder or darker. My only intention was to highlight the parallels between the two stories and characters.
@@buffalobilltv3306 Through After Read my Comment and Reading and Watching all of Berserk down to its last Bit! Can Guts and Butcher survives in Either Position if They Positions were Switched? Cause We all know Berserk Not just makes the Boys Universe look like An Aboustle Paradise for Guts to Live and Thrive in! But Basically lives Peacefully and Just a Mere Children Playground In Comparison! Like No Mattter What! The Boys Universe is Absolutely Nothing Compared to the Berserk Universe like Straight up Nothing! Not even Trying to Compared! But if we had to! You know The Boys Shouldn’t even be the one Same level of Berserk like At all!!!
What a braindead title lol
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Not a fan of that comparison. The boys isn't even in the same hemisphere as berserk. The hero's journey is in so many things with deviations. Honestly I just can't stand the boys, invincible is sooo much better, what's with the hype around the boys.. Woke obnoxious narcissistic bullshit for dim wits in my opinion. have a great day :)
well your opinion is garbage just saying