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The blame starts at the top with Clown Haslam who hired the low IQ Ivy League Brain Trust of Berry, DePodesta and Stefanski. Moe, Larry and Curly are imploding the Browns. Who has Berry drafted that actually turned out to be great?!?! He has WASTED so much of the draft capital compiled by the other former Browns GMs. The fact that Berry was even entertaining offers for Jaimes Winston shows how out of touch he is while Watson continues to unimpress week after week. This fake Ivy League Brain Trust has to go!!! ASAP!!!!
To get praise from the quarterback position, you must be consistently good . The first drive against the Jaguars and the first play of week three is not enough.
@@BKB0509 no, he hasn't. But it's hard to criticize bad QB play when he's getting touches before the routes have even started to develop. Get the line fixed and then we can point and go "yep. Dog shit QB." Essentially I want to not have any excuses for him to use.
@@BKB0509we are paying Watson to be “that guy” when the Defense is holding a game close…..we aren’t paying him to be an average QB, 3 years into this experiment with Watson and longer with our coach and GM….been to the payoffs once with Flacco, and once with Baker…..
@@Rhude_tiller not adding Flacco’s playoff experience to the mix also shows Berry’s inability to put the right pieces together to be successful. I guarantee you if Flacco was on our roster, he’d be starting right now.
Remember AB has hired every player, We can ignore it, if the QB is getting sacked 16 times in 3 games…..what in the hell is the front office doing, why can’t the coach adjust to put extra protection on the line? If your QB can’t tell the coach I need help here and the coach can’t adjust….that’s an issue… As far as Watson is 9-6 in Cleveland completion 59.3% and averaging 184 yards a game. Make excuses sure….but is that what we are paying Watson to put on the field, no…he’s paid to be “that guy”…. We have cap space….why don’t we have a better line? Or a plan with better extra linemen to begin with….
What other browns qb in the past did we combine 3 seasons to show their record? He’s 1-2 currently and ranked in the bottom of the league in every stat qbs are measured by. He’s dead last in epa which says it all.
Being a DW4 fan I still believe that he has so many personal conduct issues that I don't see how he can focus on anything else. I think the team needs to cut their losses and cut him loose along with some other high dollar free agents who have also sucked if they ever expect to be a winning franchise.
Idk why y’all (mainly talking about the media) are so focused on Watson being the reason this team sucks. I get that his contract is horrible and hasn’t lived up to expectations but he’s not the only one in this team that’s Been STRUGGLING. Everybody else (with the exception of some players of course) has been DOG WATER.
Here's the deal - The OL are all hurt and playing out of position. Deshaun is not hurt. not playing out of position. Stefanski is not hurt, not playing out of position. Watson was an RPO / running QB in Texas, yet we don't run RPO / QB runs now ,,, Pass blocking is tougher than run blocking, yet we're running pass plays and not even roll out / RPO pass plays ,,,, The issue on Watson is that he can't make decisions. ... Stefanski is the main issue because he's calling plays we can't run, and doesn't use the skills of the players he has ,,,, Did you watch Lamar Jackson use RPO and design runs to beat Dallas? We traded for Watson because Jackson / Mahomes / Josh Allen are running / RPO QB's and they win. We traded for the guy and then don't use the skills ,,,, Line wasn't as beat up last year, but Flacco made the offense run ,,,, Watson / Stefanski are the issues ,,,
They are running an offense catered to him including rpo. That failed 4th down conversion attempt was an rpo and after the read wasn’t there watson froze. The dude cannot process the game.
I noticed that too about the oline play at the end of the 3rd game, they were playing a lot better with those 5 in there. Perhaps they can build on that! I watched a few snaps of Bitonio, my god, while not perfect, he's our best oline player by far. On that play, the 4 others got pushed back near the QB, he was the only one who had his guy near the line of scrimmage!
Two positives are that we will be drafting high next year & we FINALLY have a First Round Pick ☺️. Oh, & there are several quality QBs who are going to be available 💪. That's THREE!
That idea about 6 missing picks having anything to do with our offensive line depth is really silly. Luke Wypler, Dawand Jones and Zak Zinter belong to what position group? We were stacked at those positions as well, with Pro-Bowl talent along the whole front. Our backups were former starters and dudes who played in big games for us. The likes of Hance and Dunn are not to be forgotten. Our coaching at that position was outstanding. And we've consistently had practice squad bodies, we've never been lacking up until very, very recently. Not a single soul before all of this said anything close to us missing out on potential offensive line talent because of the draft picks we traded. The draft is also a little overrated when you consider the amount of UDFAs, free agents, trade possibilities, reserve players, practice squad pickups, overseas players, etc.
The chiefs drafted most of their elite dynasty team. But whatever you got to tell yourself. Only the browns and their fans think you can reinvent the wheel for how good teams are built in the nfl.
Matt the issue with the fourth down play is the lineman jumped into Watson line of sight. That is why he tucked and ran. I agree there was passes Watson missed but this was not one. I hope we can get it together the defense is at fault as well.
all of the above since nothing seems to be going right and these injuries take out decent players then there is no backup instead so much lack of urgency and no one has that anger to get shit done and take command of the problems and making the right adjustments to shore up the iceberg damage before the ship hits the ocean floor.
3 points that need improvement or replacement. The first is Watson. Yes, he was under pressure a lot against NY, but some of his problems are his. He holds the ball too long and gets distracted looking at who is coming at him. Throw the ball away or run with it if the line is collapsing. Don't hold and get sacked play after play. He has had about 2 good drives...this year. He sucks. The second issue is the O-line. There are too many injuries and have too many 2nd and 3rd stringers playing. This impacts the whole game. No holes for running backs, no time for QB to throw and no time for receivers to get down the field. The last point is the coaching staff. The strength coaches are not doing their jobs. Too many injuries week after week. We went most of last year with a lot of the starters not playing all games. Additionally with the problems with Points 1 and 2, the play calling is not accounting for the weaknesses. Also there are too many penalties every single game. That is discipline and goes right back to the coaches.
If Watson goes to another team he'll be great and we'll be wishing we had him back, just like the little guy in Tampa Bay. The Coach is not calling the plays to Watsons strengths.
@@abjr1800 Unfortunately that is a garbage claim. This year the playbook was designed around his strengths. He sucks as a QB. Even if the playbook wasn't designed around his strengths, he could still play better. His passes are all over the place, his acumen in the pocket is horrible...he just isn't good. Look at last year. Joe Flacco came in off his sofa at home. You think the playbook was designed around him? Nope. But he managed to make it work. The most notable change was that he was hitting his receivers in stride. As for Mayfield, I never thought we should have gotten rid of him. He had a bad year, mainly because of injuries he was playing through and they tossed him aside. And I believe that was all part of the plan to get Watson with the worst deal ever.
It isn’t Watson’s fault that the Browns gave up the picks they did, that’s what the Texans negotiated. Yes, he was paid and he does miss throws that he should not as a top tier (pay wise) QB. But watching the games, it doesn’t matter who is QB back there, there is no time. Blame it on missing Callahan, blame it on injuries, blame it on not having an efficient running game. But bottom line is defenses know they can’t block the rush and give Watson time to get to the 2nd and 3rd read. Just imagine how bad it would be if he wasn’t as mobile as he is. I really want to see what is looks like when Conklin comes back and when Chubb returns as well.
I appreciate the optimism but this oline can't get through a game without getting more injured and dawand Jones has regressed mightily. This is a grim sign for both our season and Chubbs return
@buckeye5755 Now let's be honest was Watson good when he had all those things? Short answer NO it's never his fault he hasn't played enough the line is bad he has bad receivers yet he skipped the preseason even though he needed reps. This is the same clown who last season guaranteed his teammates he was going to play against the ravens then backed out at the last minute and they had to throw DTR with no reps to the wolves
@@BKB0509 All fair points, but we will never know if he can live up to the expectations without the offensive line being at least average. Right now ratings wise, it is the worst in the NFL. As for Watson last year, I agree with you and it was sporadic at best. His performance in the 2nd half of the Ravens game was elite and worthy of the money they paid, but that needs to be more the norm and not the exception. Again though, you can’t have that performance or anything close to it again without O line help.
Lol looked incredible? Josh Allen looked incredible yesterday, do you know good football? He blew great field position the whole game and lost to one of the worst teams in the league. Quit kidding yourself.
We have lost our identity we used to be a run first play action pass offense, and play good defense. Right now, this offense is trash not liking this Watson project, but it's not all on Waston. The o-line has fallen apart. And no QB can have success with with poor o-line. I have no confidence in this team.
Start with no offensive line, then depleted and underperforming WR’s, underperforming running backs, Watson not able to avoid being caught. Now we can also add in the defense because they are underperforming as well. Finally, are the coaches making sure the team is game ready? I’ll tune in tomorrow since you will still be talking to cover all of these points.
I forgot to add that to overcome all of this Watson would need to be the second coming of Fran Tarkenton. Add Berry into the offensive line and wide receiver discussion. The O line is totally injury ridden and you could see it coming from years away. He lost the bet thinking that these guys would recover. Almost the whole O line is injured now. The o line needs to be fixed first because it impacting the other issues.
I'm a camp D guy. But I start the blame on the headcoach first with game plan haveing his team ready for each game. You'll always have injuries every team does. The penalties are unexceptable . Look at last night's game Washington didn't have there first penalty till the fourth qt. And cincy kept there penalties down. All the very good football teams do this. And it starts with the coach. 3rd and 10s are hard enough to make let alone 3rd and 15 or 3rd and 20. When you don't have much of a running game because of oline is hurting and the backs aren't NICK Chubb you should be passing on first down more. But not with an empty set. Deline will get sacks because nobody is concerned about you running the ball. Shure the players have blame to But it start with the head coach. We had these same problems with BAKER also. With this same headcoach. Baker at least had NICK Chubb. In the houston playoff game we where exposed and it starts with the coaching not having there team ready. This is an extension of that game. Coaching is in a big Funk. And if we don't make the playoffs it is time for a new coach. I like an experience head coach not necessarily with a superbowl win with there previous team because it's never been done in the NFL . Give me a guy like Mike Vrabel that's young still and has had some play off experience under his belt. Stafanski alls he dose is call plays he dosnt coach the game in crucial situations. Last yr he lucked out with a much weaker schedule. With one more loss last yr we might have not made the playoffs. Yes we had a bad yr for injuries but you must overcome adversity and great coaches create great teams to do that.
@@albiggs5331we don’t like him bc he’s ruined the team. Lowest epa, former nfl qbs are saying he can’t process the field and it’s obvious. Have fun with denial though.
What if Flacco was in there would it be different?? I think we are frustrated because we believe that our offense would be averaging more than 16 points a game
In football, 1 game is absolutely fine to draw conclusions. There are only 17 games... people who don't take this into account will fall into the trap it's only one game. It's only one game if you're 16-0
This is an entire GM and coaching problem. Watson is not entirely to blame but Stefanski plan went down the tube's. Offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, are on different pages. The team is getting old.
I'm gonna blame AB for NOT addressing the O-line way back in the off-season all he was worried about was a reciever now look where we are , and the penalties are unacceptable as well we were 2nd in the NFL last year and lead the NFL so far this year that's not sustainable
Totally agree on Camp D, however this mess is on Andrew Berry. He made the Watson trade (arguably the worst trade in NFL history); drafted Jedrick Wills; gave a fragile Cocklin a contract extension; did nothing to help the running back room since the Chubb injury, and did nothing to improve the offensive tackle position with his top 3 tackles (one who is totally worthless) recuperating from injury. Berry is extremely overrated, and has setup this franchise for long term failure (kicking the can down the road on salaries to set the Browns up for cap jail, and the depletion of all the draft picks lost in the Watson trade). Andrew Berry is a disaster!
Derrick has the ability to control the line of scrimmage with his cadence, but does he, no.... Do he check out of bad plays... Do he make the people around him better? No Derrick is majority of the problem
It's worst watching their screwups on film more than during the actual game. Hopefully this team will find a pair out there in the desert and turn things around.
Here we go again. Last year, the Browns were outplayed by Houston in the playoffs. Their first year, the head coach completely outschemed the Browns coaching staff. Thus, our team fired one of the best OC and the best OL coaches in the league. The head coach seemingly has escaped any blame for his play calling and offensive scheme. Hello!!! 😮 While Watson is not the same QB that he was in Houston, the fact is he was one of the best QB's in the league with subpar talent in Houston. Still, our team was snookered into giving up a king's ransom to obtain one player. This team needs to hire a competent OC and let him do his damn job. Lastly, we need to sign a left tackle to replace the under performing Willis. However, maybe if the team would hire a competent OC and give him complete control this team would look better. You cannot allow your ego to come before the best interest of the team. Their is enough blame to spread around to every component of our team..
Petey, Petey, Petey! Why does the OL line suck? Because GM Berry did NOTHING about them. He is to blame!! Who allows two starters out to begin season and does NOTHING to add more talent. Hate to say it but you should be starting tackle for the browns. But you should get my point. And that is Andrew Berry has not done his job. He is to blame. (yes, Watson isn’t good)
Imagine watson has the best games over this next season, but we bench him and never get to see it and hate Jamis Winston cause he’s not having a Joe Flacco type season, I can’t hate jamis
KS should take a majority of the blame. This team can’t block a cough and that’s a technique issue. People are open but he can’t see everything. Our offense is garbage and it’s because KS is selfish taking play calling and head coach. This ish is not working
@@StayPuftMarshmellow idk if u watched Sunday or not buddy but they put freeze frames on the screen a few times and NO ONE WAS open. Sure u can throw the ball up for a potential pick 6 ..
Take a poll on Watson: I'm so done with this Watson experience, it's a damn shame it didn't work out, he'll never be the franchise QB these fans want .. Out of all the QB's on the Cle "Tombstone" list congrats to Dw4 for being the worst out of all of them!!!!
The jags got annihilated by an actual good team. Meaning the browns are struggling to beat bad teams. This is all on watson and whoever is responsible for brining him here. Anyone making excuses and denying that just can’t admit they were wrong about wataon and this absurd trade.
I blame whoever didn’t draft a offensive tackle they chose a defensive tackle who hasn’t touch the field since he played at Ohio state we have been limited on our picks since Watson trade and they only hit only a few players… we are paying for it now… 🤦
@@BrownsReport i didn’t get that from todays video? You made a vid talking about Deshaun I commented how stefanski clearly doesn’t trust him to take deep shots
I think the entire fan base is frustrated angry because we know what the other side of this coin looks like when you give away that many draft picks as we’ve essentially destined ourselves through bad for another five years until we can crawl out of the hole that put us in
The reason why DW gets so much hate is because he is consistently bad unfortunately. Plus he had two offensive coordinators with two different systems and is still consistently bad. It’s time to go.
I never wanted DeShawn. I never wanted Baker,.. We had a chance to get Josh Allen. That's who I wanted. With that being said, why in the world did stefanski get called coach of the Year? That's all hoopla from the NFL because he did not deserve that title. Deshawn and stefanski has to go. So should Ken Dorsey. Maybe even Andrew Berry
A great offensive line can make an average QB look good. Let's not forget the coach in all of this. What kind of offense is he running? Is it an offense built around the QB'S strengths? NOPE!! Garbage. Simple high school plays that pro's can easily read.
Don't forget coaching. I do not think stefanski is a worthy play caller. Whole franchise is horrible. Been a browns fan for 40 yrs. Time to jump ship on this let down Cleveland team.
I have a conspiracy,member two years ago I can’t remember the game but deshaun was taking us down the field he was on fire the stefanski decides to put brisset in for a long pass on 3rd down dumbest stuff ever you never take a player that’s on fire out of the game..fast forward to know deshaun was getting us down the field then we was 3rd and 1 we had a 230 pound rb foreman ready to get that 1st guess what the coach did he put Winston in to run a play the giants knew was coming..:like why stefanski why you did that stuff two time everytime deshaun on fire.hmmmm weird!!
Will DW ever win a Superbowl... Imo the answer is no, so the trade is a bust to me. There are only 2 QBs in NFL history to win a National Championship and a Superbowl. Imo DW isnt talented enough to be the 3rd
I beleive the team will only play to the level of respect they have for a leader, aka the QB. I feel like they view Watson as the creepy awkward kid that is just sort of there. He needs to win the team over or else we will see more of this half hearted playing from them. why try when your $230 super star QB isnt giving it his all?
WE..... don't need to discuss anything. We don't need to see more. We don't need to hear more and some of we thought that this was a stupid contract the day it was signed. Sounded like some Cleveland Browns behavior.. which is WE have never seen them win anything in our lifetime!!!! Some of WE quit watching this garbage years ago and found something to do with ourselves on Sundays
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The Offensive Line doesn’t respect him and they have zero reason to do that. I think he is awful. He is the second coming of Robert Griffin
The blame starts at the top with Clown Haslam who hired the low IQ Ivy League Brain Trust of Berry, DePodesta and Stefanski. Moe, Larry and Curly are imploding the Browns. Who has Berry drafted that actually turned out to be great?!?! He has WASTED so much of the draft capital compiled by the other former Browns GMs. The fact that Berry was even entertaining offers for Jaimes Winston shows how out of touch he is while Watson continues to unimpress week after week. This fake Ivy League Brain Trust has to go!!! ASAP!!!!
To get praise from the quarterback position, you must be consistently good . The first drive against the Jaguars and the first play of week three is not enough.
It's mostly the OL I put 85 percent on OL and then 15 percent on watson
Berry's drafting + Stefanski's play calling = 50% blame, Watson = 25% blame, OL = 25% blame
We have always been told that elite QBs raise the level of players around him …… Watson does not do that. Again, he is not elite
I really don't like Watson, but we have to be honest here, the Offensive Line was the main problem last week.
I agree sort of because to be honest he hasn't been good even when he's had blocking
@@BKB0509 no, he hasn't. But it's hard to criticize bad QB play when he's getting touches before the routes have even started to develop. Get the line fixed and then we can point and go "yep. Dog shit QB." Essentially I want to not have any excuses for him to use.
@@BKB0509we are paying Watson to be “that guy” when the Defense is holding a game close…..we aren’t paying him to be an average QB, 3 years into this experiment with Watson and longer with our coach and GM….been to the payoffs once with Flacco, and once with Baker…..
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Its the play calling..... If you see your team struggling you got to adjust
Watson is not an elite QB …… He just plays one on TV and gets paid like one
One thing Watson has done really good …… divide the fan base
don't forget the owner who signed him too .
Berry caused that, not Watson. Berry lit the fuse. The fuse was Watson. Berry is the real cause to this massive dysfunctional hot mess.
Always been divided ever since they got rid of Baker.
@@Rhude_tiller not adding Flacco’s playoff experience to the mix also shows Berry’s inability to put the right pieces together to be successful. I guarantee you if Flacco was on our roster, he’d be starting right now.
Remember AB has hired every player, We can ignore it, if the QB is getting sacked 16 times in 3 games…..what in the hell is the front office doing, why can’t the coach adjust to put extra protection on the line?
If your QB can’t tell the coach I need help here and the coach can’t adjust….that’s an issue…
As far as Watson is 9-6 in Cleveland completion 59.3% and averaging 184 yards a game. Make excuses sure….but is that what we are paying Watson to put on the field, no…he’s paid to be “that guy”….
We have cap space….why don’t we have a better line? Or a plan with better extra linemen to begin with….
What other browns qb in the past did we combine 3 seasons to show their record? He’s 1-2 currently and ranked in the bottom of the league in every stat qbs are measured by. He’s dead last in epa which says it all.
Berry has been given a DEI pass for far too long. He's the real reason for majority of the Browns current issues yet nobody wants to say anything.
Being a DW4 fan I still believe that he has so many personal conduct issues that I don't see how he can focus on anything else. I think the team needs to cut their losses and cut him loose along with some other high dollar free agents who have also sucked if they ever expect to be a winning franchise.
You're still a Watson fan, even though he has all of those "personal conduct issues"? That's code for sexual predator. 😂
Idk why y’all (mainly talking about the media) are so focused on Watson being the reason this team sucks. I get that his contract is horrible and hasn’t lived up to expectations but he’s not the only one in this team that’s Been STRUGGLING. Everybody else (with the exception of some players of course) has been DOG WATER.
Here's the deal - The OL are all hurt and playing out of position. Deshaun is not hurt. not playing out of position. Stefanski is not hurt, not playing out of position. Watson was an RPO / running QB in Texas, yet we don't run RPO / QB runs now ,,, Pass blocking is tougher than run blocking, yet we're running pass plays and not even roll out / RPO pass plays ,,,, The issue on Watson is that he can't make decisions. ... Stefanski is the main issue because he's calling plays we can't run, and doesn't use the skills of the players he has ,,,, Did you watch Lamar Jackson use RPO and design runs to beat Dallas? We traded for Watson because Jackson / Mahomes / Josh Allen are running / RPO QB's and they win. We traded for the guy and then don't use the skills ,,,, Line wasn't as beat up last year, but Flacco made the offense run ,,,, Watson / Stefanski are the issues ,,,
exactly flacco was still throwing picks he had a healthy david njku and amari
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They are running an offense catered to him including rpo. That failed 4th down conversion attempt was an rpo and after the read wasn’t there watson froze. The dude cannot process the game.
@@StayPuftMarshmellow yeah i agree should’ve threw it to Akins or just ran on four and one instead doing a RPO
@@muthe60 exactly
If we ran Baltimore's offense we would be at least 2-1.
I noticed that too about the oline play at the end of the 3rd game, they were playing a lot better with those 5 in there. Perhaps they can build on that! I watched a few snaps of Bitonio, my god, while not perfect, he's our best oline player by far. On that play, the 4 others got pushed back near the QB, he was the only one who had his guy near the line of scrimmage!
A really good show and service here.
The overall Cleveland Browns product on the field just doesn’t look prepared and that is coaching most of all!
Well that is very true if you have no offensive line you have no quarterback the offensive line is the most important thing
Two positives are that we will be drafting high next year & we FINALLY have a First Round Pick ☺️. Oh, & there are several quality QBs who are going to be available 💪. That's THREE!
That idea about 6 missing picks having anything to do with our offensive line depth is really silly.
Luke Wypler, Dawand Jones and Zak Zinter belong to what position group?
We were stacked at those positions as well, with Pro-Bowl talent along the whole front. Our backups were former starters and dudes who played in big games for us. The likes of Hance and Dunn are not to be forgotten. Our coaching at that position was outstanding. And we've consistently had practice squad bodies, we've never been lacking up until very, very recently.
Not a single soul before all of this said anything close to us missing out on potential offensive line talent because of the draft picks we traded. The draft is also a little overrated when you consider the amount of UDFAs, free agents, trade possibilities, reserve players, practice squad pickups, overseas players, etc.
The chiefs drafted most of their elite dynasty team. But whatever you got to tell yourself. Only the browns and their fans think you can reinvent the wheel for how good teams are built in the nfl.
Matt the issue with the fourth down play is the lineman jumped into Watson line of sight. That is why he tucked and ran. I agree there was passes Watson missed but this was not one. I hope we can get it together the defense is at fault as well.
The play was clearly designed to go to Akins though. Ball should have been thrown
all of the above since nothing seems to be going right and these injuries take out decent players then there is no backup instead so much lack of urgency and no one has that anger to get shit done and take command of the problems and making the right adjustments to shore up the iceberg damage before the ship hits the ocean floor.
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3 points that need improvement or replacement. The first is Watson. Yes, he was under pressure a lot against NY, but some of his problems are his. He holds the ball too long and gets distracted looking at who is coming at him. Throw the ball away or run with it if the line is collapsing. Don't hold and get sacked play after play. He has had about 2 good drives...this year. He sucks. The second issue is the O-line. There are too many injuries and have too many 2nd and 3rd stringers playing. This impacts the whole game. No holes for running backs, no time for QB to throw and no time for receivers to get down the field. The last point is the coaching staff. The strength coaches are not doing their jobs. Too many injuries week after week. We went most of last year with a lot of the starters not playing all games. Additionally with the problems with Points 1 and 2, the play calling is not accounting for the weaknesses. Also there are too many penalties every single game. That is discipline and goes right back to the coaches.
If Watson goes to another team he'll be great and we'll be wishing we had him back, just like the little guy in Tampa Bay. The Coach is not calling the plays to Watsons strengths.
@@abjr1800 Unfortunately that is a garbage claim. This year the playbook was designed around his strengths. He sucks as a QB. Even if the playbook wasn't designed around his strengths, he could still play better. His passes are all over the place, his acumen in the pocket is horrible...he just isn't good. Look at last year. Joe Flacco came in off his sofa at home. You think the playbook was designed around him? Nope. But he managed to make it work. The most notable change was that he was hitting his receivers in stride. As for Mayfield, I never thought we should have gotten rid of him. He had a bad year, mainly because of injuries he was playing through and they tossed him aside. And I believe that was all part of the plan to get Watson with the worst deal ever.
It isn’t Watson’s fault that the Browns gave up the picks they did, that’s what the Texans negotiated. Yes, he was paid and he does miss throws that he should not as a top tier (pay wise) QB. But watching the games, it doesn’t matter who is QB back there, there is no time.
Blame it on missing Callahan, blame it on injuries, blame it on not having an efficient running game. But bottom line is defenses know they can’t block the rush and give Watson time to get to the 2nd and 3rd read. Just imagine how bad it would be if he wasn’t as mobile as he is. I really want to see what is looks like when Conklin comes back and when Chubb returns as well.
I appreciate the optimism but this oline can't get through a game without getting more injured and dawand Jones has regressed mightily. This is a grim sign for both our season and Chubbs return
@buckeye5755 Now let's be honest was Watson good when he had all those things? Short answer NO it's never his fault he hasn't played enough the line is bad he has bad receivers yet he skipped the preseason even though he needed reps. This is the same clown who last season guaranteed his teammates he was going to play against the ravens then backed out at the last minute and they had to throw DTR with no reps to the wolves
@@BKB0509 All fair points, but we will never know if he can live up to the expectations without the offensive line being at least average. Right now ratings wise, it is the worst in the NFL.
As for Watson last year, I agree with you and it was sporadic at best. His performance in the 2nd half of the Ravens game was elite and worthy of the money they paid, but that needs to be more the norm and not the exception. Again though, you can’t have that performance or anything close to it again without O line help.
If you watch the highlights of Watson vs the giants, Watson looked incredible but one thing that was bad was the line
Lol looked incredible? Josh Allen looked incredible yesterday, do you know good football? He blew great field position the whole game and lost to one of the worst teams in the league. Quit kidding yourself.
@@StayPuftMarshmellow Are you kidding me? He was making beautiful passes and your comparing him to Josh Allen.
We have lost our identity we used to be a run first play action pass offense, and play good defense. Right now, this offense is trash not liking this Watson project, but it's not all on Waston. The o-line has fallen apart. And no QB can have success with with poor o-line. I have no confidence in this team.
Agreed…we have zero running game!
Start with no offensive line, then depleted and underperforming WR’s, underperforming running backs, Watson not able to avoid being caught. Now we can also add in the defense because they are underperforming as well. Finally, are the coaches making sure the team is game ready? I’ll tune in tomorrow since you will still be talking to cover all of these points.
I forgot to add that to overcome all of this Watson would need to be the second coming of Fran Tarkenton. Add Berry into the offensive line and wide receiver discussion. The O line is totally injury ridden and you could see it coming from years away. He lost the bet thinking that these guys would recover. Almost the whole O line is injured now. The o line needs to be fixed first because it impacting the other issues.
I'm a camp D guy. But I start the blame on the headcoach first with game plan haveing his team ready for each game. You'll always have injuries every team does. The penalties are unexceptable . Look at last night's game Washington didn't have there first penalty till the fourth qt. And cincy kept there penalties down. All the very good football teams do this. And it starts with the coach. 3rd and 10s are hard enough to make let alone 3rd and 15 or 3rd and 20. When you don't have much of a running game because of oline is hurting and the backs aren't NICK Chubb you should be passing on first down more. But not with an empty set. Deline will get sacks because nobody is concerned about you running the ball. Shure the players have blame to But it start with the head coach. We had these same problems with BAKER also. With this same headcoach. Baker at least had NICK Chubb. In the houston playoff game we where exposed and it starts with the coaching not having there team ready. This is an extension of that game. Coaching is in a big Funk. And if we don't make the playoffs it is time for a new coach. I like an experience head coach not necessarily with a superbowl win with there previous team because it's never been done in the NFL . Give me a guy like Mike Vrabel that's young still and has had some play off experience under his belt. Stafanski alls he dose is call plays he dosnt coach the game in crucial situations. Last yr he lucked out with a much weaker schedule. With one more loss last yr we might have not made the playoffs. Yes we had a bad yr for injuries but you must overcome adversity and great coaches create great teams to do that.
Team looked good with Flacco under center, that's all I'm saying
Flacco was A LOT CHEAPER too.
that's stupid because online coach is different coordinator is different you guys don't like Watson for other reasons
@@albiggs5331we don’t like him bc he’s ruined the team. Lowest epa, former nfl qbs are saying he can’t process the field and it’s obvious. Have fun with denial though.
@@albiggs5331 We also don't like Deshaun because he abuses masseuses.
What if Flacco was in there would it be different?? I think we are frustrated because we believe that our offense would be averaging more than 16 points a game
In football, 1 game is absolutely fine to draw conclusions. There are only 17 games... people who don't take this into account will fall into the trap it's only one game. It's only one game if you're 16-0
How many loses will it take, before some serious changes are made, before we’re out of playoffs considerations?
What I've seen is dewan Jones and jedrick wills had the best seats in the house against the Giants.
This is an entire GM and coaching problem. Watson is not entirely to blame but Stefanski plan went down the tube's. Offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, are on different pages.
The team is getting old.
This team has zero chance with Watson, Berry and Stefansky. NOT a chance!
for the amount of money he makes, its not enough for watson to play just ok. he needs to be the man.
I'm gonna blame AB for NOT addressing the O-line way back in the off-season all he was worried about was a reciever now look where we are , and the penalties are unacceptable as well we were 2nd in the NFL last year and lead the NFL so far this year that's not sustainable
Deshaun hasn't lived up to his contract and he's had plenty of time to prove it. Jacoby Brisset had a top 10 offense under Stefanski, just saying
Totally agree on Camp D, however this mess is on Andrew Berry. He made the Watson trade (arguably the worst trade in NFL history); drafted Jedrick Wills; gave a fragile Cocklin a contract extension; did nothing to help the running back room since the Chubb injury, and did nothing to improve the offensive tackle position with his top 3 tackles (one who is totally worthless) recuperating from injury. Berry is extremely overrated, and has setup this franchise for long term failure (kicking the can down the road on salaries to set the Browns up for cap jail, and the depletion of all the draft picks lost in the Watson trade). Andrew Berry is a disaster!
100% on the offensive line.
Derrick has the ability to control the line of scrimmage with his cadence, but does he, no.... Do he check out of bad plays... Do he make the people around him better? No
Derrick is majority of the problem
petey coach knows what he is doing
It's worst watching their screwups on film more than during the actual game. Hopefully this team will find a pair out there in the desert and turn things around.
It's pathetic that we traded Baker anyway. Watson has not elevated the team at all. At this point I would rather have kept flacco
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Here we go again. Last year, the Browns were outplayed by Houston in the playoffs. Their first year, the head coach completely outschemed the Browns coaching staff. Thus, our team fired one of the best OC and the best OL coaches in the league. The head coach seemingly has escaped any blame for his play calling and offensive scheme. Hello!!! 😮
While Watson is not the same QB that he was in Houston, the fact is he was one of the best QB's in the league with subpar talent in Houston. Still, our team was snookered into giving up a king's ransom to obtain one player.
This team needs to hire a competent OC and let him do his damn job. Lastly, we need to sign a left tackle to replace the under performing Willis. However, maybe if the team would hire a competent OC and give him complete control this team would look better. You cannot allow your ego to come before the best interest of the team. Their is enough blame to spread around to every component of our team..
Petey, Petey, Petey! Why does the OL line suck? Because GM Berry did NOTHING about them. He is to blame!! Who allows two starters out to begin season and does NOTHING to add more talent. Hate to say it but you should be starting tackle for the browns. But you should get my point. And that is Andrew Berry has not done his job. He is to blame. (yes, Watson isn’t good)
Imagine watson has the best games over this next season, but we bench him and never get to see it and hate Jamis Winston cause he’s not having a Joe Flacco type season, I can’t hate jamis
0 Cleveland made Houston a super bowl contending team with all them draft picks......... way to go browns
I've seen a great quarterback carry the entire team I don't see it in this browns team
KS should take a majority of the blame. This team can’t block a cough and that’s a technique issue. People are open but he can’t see everything. Our offense is garbage and it’s because KS is selfish taking play calling and head coach. This ish is not working
im blaming the O-line. i dont think watson is anywhere close to "back" but my GOD... Tom Brady would get lit up behind that line
No he’d make the right read and get rid of the ball. Brady was notorious for check downs and a quick release. No line can block for 3 + seconds.
@@StayPuftMarshmellow idk if u watched Sunday or not buddy but they put freeze frames on the screen a few times and NO ONE WAS open. Sure u can throw the ball up for a potential pick 6 ..
There is also plenty of room to get player. Money excuses are only fans who don't know anything about Cap and cash over cap.
Take a poll on Watson: I'm so done with this Watson experience, it's a damn shame it didn't work out, he'll never be the franchise QB these fans want .. Out of all the QB's on the Cle "Tombstone" list congrats to Dw4 for being the worst out of all of them!!!!
Ok he didn’t get 250+ yards like how people wanted him too, but that whole 15 points belong to him so it’s not his fault
Honestly, I would rather watch anything new that Disney/marvel, puts out that are another Browns game this season
We need to fix that o line
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leave him in there he is getting better each time out
Imagine being a mobile QB taking 7/8 sacks a game.... Use your head, arm, or feet damn
The jags got annihilated by an actual good team. Meaning the browns are struggling to beat bad teams. This is all on watson and whoever is responsible for brining him here. Anyone making excuses and denying that just can’t admit they were wrong about wataon and this absurd trade.
you know what the browns are so frustrating I'm not even going to listen to this video any longer
I blame whoever didn’t draft a offensive tackle they chose a defensive tackle who hasn’t touch the field since he played at Ohio state we have been limited on our picks since Watson trade and they only hit only a few players… we are paying for it now… 🤦
If you can’t trust your qb to take deep shots down the field that itself is a major problem and if he can’t do that then you have to move on
How did you get that at all from today's video?
@@BrownsReport i didn’t get that from todays video? You made a vid talking about Deshaun I commented how stefanski clearly doesn’t trust him to take deep shots
watsion not to blame for all the sacks. the Offensive line needs to be held accountable.
Derrick we need you to be better and play better
I think the entire fan base is frustrated angry because we know what the other side of this coin looks like when you give away that many draft picks as we’ve essentially destined ourselves through bad for another five years until we can crawl out of the hole that put us in
The reason why DW gets so much hate is because he is consistently bad unfortunately. Plus he had two offensive coordinators with two different systems and is still consistently bad. It’s time to go.
I never wanted DeShawn. I never wanted Baker,.. We had a chance to get Josh Allen. That's who I wanted. With that being said, why in the world did stefanski get called coach of the Year? That's all hoopla from the NFL because he did not deserve that title. Deshawn and stefanski has to go. So should Ken Dorsey. Maybe even Andrew Berry
its only three games and also our defense is playing like garbage
It's mostly on the offensive line
The blame starts with me watching it.
I think he needs 5 more years and a 300 million dollar extension.
There are no salary camp issues as Watson renegotiate his contract each year.
Lol he’s owed 72 mil next year. There’s gonna be a ton of issues.
those same fans that now love baker... hated him and wanted him out when he was here. the grass is NOT always greener
Are we forgetting he cost $230,000,000 dollars.. now tell if he's living up to that. Nobody else is but they don't cost the browns everything
A great offensive line can make an average QB look good. Let's not forget the coach in all of this. What kind of offense is he running? Is it an offense built around the QB'S strengths? NOPE!! Garbage. Simple high school plays that pro's can easily read.
Jameis Winston is ready
Our offensive line is not healthy what y’all expect
The man doesn't move well in the pocket, holds the ball to long. Stefanski has never been my favorite play caller
Don't forget coaching. I do not think stefanski is a worthy play caller. Whole franchise is horrible. Been a browns fan for 40 yrs. Time to jump ship on this let down Cleveland team.
OL Trade targets?
Oh and the penalties also.
Not great on the Oline, RB, or QB. Njoku out. Pretty simple.
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Jim Schwartz is not the good DC everyone thought he was he doesn't change during the game
I have a conspiracy,member two years ago I can’t remember the game but deshaun was taking us down the field he was on fire the stefanski decides to put brisset in for a long pass on 3rd down dumbest stuff ever you never take a player that’s on fire out of the game..fast forward to know deshaun was getting us down the field then we was 3rd and 1 we had a 230 pound rb foreman ready to get that 1st guess what the coach did he put Winston in to run a play the giants knew was coming..:like why stefanski why you did that stuff two time everytime deshaun on fire.hmmmm weird!!
Go browns
He was sacked 8 times! C’mon man! You can’t win like that!
Will DW ever win a Superbowl... Imo the answer is no, so the trade is a bust to me.
There are only 2 QBs in NFL history to win a National Championship and a Superbowl. Imo DW isnt talented enough to be the 3rd
I beleive the team will only play to the level of respect they have for a leader, aka the QB. I feel like they view Watson as the creepy awkward kid that is just sort of there. He needs to win the team over or else we will see more of this half hearted playing from them. why try when your $230 super star QB isnt giving it his all?
Run the ball
He can’t make it work if he is constantly on the ground
Time to move on from the mistake by the lake on Watson.
The offense has never been that great it's coaching
It’s on the entire org top to bottom management coaches and players have all been god awful
Let's go cleveland Brown s let's beat the Las Vegas raiders
Nobody claims a camp 😂
Cut wills asap
WE..... don't need to discuss anything. We don't need to see more. We don't need to hear more and some of we thought that this was a stupid contract the day it was signed. Sounded like some Cleveland Browns behavior.. which is WE have never seen them win anything in our lifetime!!!! Some of WE quit watching this garbage years ago and found something to do with ourselves on Sundays
How about both suck and we should fire everyone and tank for ewers
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