I look at all content in my target language.. read a book in the language( it took me 4 months to read my last) .. look at UA-cam shorts (which always have subtitles) .. find a language partner and speak a few times a week.. I have been doing this for 2 years and have gotten to a B2/C1… unfortunately this is the hardest part of language learning .. to jump from upper intermediate to fluent.. but I will not stop even if it takes me another 2 years.. I WILL speak French fluently… speaking like a native doesn’t have to be the goal (although it’s mine).. in the end it’s being able to communicate.
This is the way, it’s a bit tough at very first because everything is quite difficult. But you gotta find content in the “Goldy locks” zone, challenging but approachable. But keep it up, at 100 hours of reading and listening, a lot of native content will open up for you.
Yeah.... I wonder at what point in terms of hours, you notice that you're improving. I found a channel/website that makes videos focusing on comprehensible input (spanish). It also tracks the hours you've watched. I wonder how much I'll understand after x hours...
its about interest and consistancy, I studied german in school for 10 years and I learned very little, while I've leaned Italian all alone from internet for 5 years daily very interested and able to have conversations with italians and understand a lot.
Great video! I agree with almost everything you've said. Another angle to approach this topic could've been exploring how apps like Duo have kind of become these producers selling languages as products. You can really see that as they keep adding more and more useless features. It's basically the opposite of natural learning for me.
The internet is unrealistic sometimes. I know from experience I’ve been trying for 6 years to learn a language and I’ve had progress but Im still bad at communicating and still not brilliant, I’m bad at a language due to Duolingo etc , This video answered my questions. thanks
That sounds similar to my experience with Japanese. Not because I learnt from duolingo but because I did not learn to communicate / in a natural way. I memorized too much grammar. Memorization feels like you're making progress, which is similar to what duolingo does...
Duolingo has some conflict of interests. They want to keep you on the platform, so it's more important that you're entertained and feel like you're learning than actual learning. And it feels like this has increased since they became a public company in 2021.
I feel like people don't really try to actually learn languages anymore? I'm sorry to say this but if all you do is learn with Duolingo and don't interact with the language at all outside of that, you might as well stop wasting your time entirely :/
Exactly! I feel like some people see 'language learning' as a 'hobby' that one can do all by themselves. And the worst part is that they won't get the results they're being promised by apps like duolingo....
How do we move from a grammar approach to a natural approach?
I look at all content in my target language.. read a book in the language( it took me 4 months to read my last) .. look at UA-cam shorts (which always have subtitles) .. find a language partner and speak a few times a week.. I have been doing this for 2 years and have gotten to a B2/C1… unfortunately this is the hardest part of language learning .. to jump from upper intermediate to fluent.. but I will not stop even if it takes me another 2 years.. I WILL speak French fluently… speaking like a native doesn’t have to be the goal (although it’s mine).. in the end it’s being able to communicate.
Couldn't have said it better!
it's about the communication and how you apply that in your own life. Have fun with the language!
This is the way, it’s a bit tough at very first because everything is quite difficult.
But you gotta find content in the “Goldy locks” zone, challenging but approachable.
But keep it up, at 100 hours of reading and listening, a lot of native content will open up for you.
Reading interesting books I think.
Yeah.... I wonder at what point in terms of hours, you notice that you're improving. I found a channel/website that makes videos focusing on comprehensible input (spanish). It also tracks the hours you've watched. I wonder how much I'll understand after x hours...
its about interest and consistancy, I studied german in school for 10 years and I learned very little, while I've leaned Italian all alone from internet for 5 years daily very interested and able to have conversations with italians and understand a lot.
100% agree!
Great video! I agree with almost everything you've said.
Another angle to approach this topic could've been exploring how apps like Duo have kind of become these producers selling languages as products. You can really see that as they keep adding more and more useless features. It's basically the opposite of natural learning for me.
Thanks for the input! Yeah that's actually a really interesting idea. I agree with you on that.
The internet is unrealistic sometimes. I know from experience I’ve been trying for 6 years to learn a language and I’ve had progress but Im still bad at communicating and still not brilliant, I’m bad at a language due to Duolingo etc , This video answered my questions. thanks
That sounds similar to my experience with Japanese. Not because I learnt from duolingo but because I did not learn to communicate / in a natural way. I memorized too much grammar. Memorization feels like you're making progress, which is similar to what duolingo does...
I'm glad because I can understand you without subtitles
That means you're acquiring English!
I did subscribe but I'm having curiosity, what is this google extension you use to search meaning of japanese in duolingo ?? 😮
Good question! It's called rikaikun. The logo is the 理 in 理解 :)
Duolingo has some conflict of interests. They want to keep you on the platform, so it's more important that you're entertained and feel like you're learning than actual learning.
And it feels like this has increased since they became a public company in 2021.
I guess it makes sense from a business point of view. But not when you're actually trying to learn a language, unfortunately
Good video, your points are great, but please fix the audio for your next videos, it is heavily biased to the left side.
And here I hoped it was better this time.... I'll look into it, thank you so much for letting me know!
Really good video! You got a new sub!
Hey, thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
The answers is you have to input into the language what you learning,repeat,and im learning inglish like this,
You're doing it right!
I feel like people don't really try to actually learn languages anymore? I'm sorry to say this but if all you do is learn with Duolingo and don't interact with the language at all outside of that, you might as well stop wasting your time entirely :/
Spot on! You have to actually interact with content made for natives to truly learn it.
Exactly! I feel like some people see 'language learning' as a 'hobby' that one can do all by themselves. And the worst part is that they won't get the results they're being promised by apps like duolingo....
pimsleur works
Never tried it, I don't know...