the internet proves language learning is RUINED...

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  • Опубліковано 18 жов 2024

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  • @Angelovanrooij
    @Angelovanrooij  6 місяців тому +4

    How do we move from a grammar approach to a natural approach?

    • @lifewithcats1163
      @lifewithcats1163 6 місяців тому +3

      I look at all content in my target language.. read a book in the language( it took me 4 months to read my last) .. look at UA-cam shorts (which always have subtitles) .. find a language partner and speak a few times a week.. I have been doing this for 2 years and have gotten to a B2/C1… unfortunately this is the hardest part of language learning .. to jump from upper intermediate to fluent.. but I will not stop even if it takes me another 2 years.. I WILL speak French fluently… speaking like a native doesn’t have to be the goal (although it’s mine).. in the end it’s being able to communicate.

    • @Angelovanrooij
      @Angelovanrooij  6 місяців тому +4

      Couldn't have said it better!
      it's about the communication and how you apply that in your own life. Have fun with the language!

    • @justinmohr6585
      @justinmohr6585 6 місяців тому +1

      This is the way, it’s a bit tough at very first because everything is quite difficult.
      But you gotta find content in the “Goldy locks” zone, challenging but approachable.
      But keep it up, at 100 hours of reading and listening, a lot of native content will open up for you.

    • @nospectro0896
      @nospectro0896 6 місяців тому +1

      Reading interesting books I think.

    • @Angelovanrooij
      @Angelovanrooij  6 місяців тому +1

      Yeah.... I wonder at what point in terms of hours, you notice that you're improving. I found a channel/website that makes videos focusing on comprehensible input (spanish). It also tracks the hours you've watched. I wonder how much I'll understand after x hours...

  • @heh9392
    @heh9392 6 місяців тому +9

    its about interest and consistancy, I studied german in school for 10 years and I learned very little, while I've leaned Italian all alone from internet for 5 years daily very interested and able to have conversations with italians and understand a lot.

  • @unholycrusader69
    @unholycrusader69 6 місяців тому +11

    Great video! I agree with almost everything you've said.
    Another angle to approach this topic could've been exploring how apps like Duo have kind of become these producers selling languages as products. You can really see that as they keep adding more and more useless features. It's basically the opposite of natural learning for me.

    • @Angelovanrooij
      @Angelovanrooij  6 місяців тому

      Thanks for the input! Yeah that's actually a really interesting idea. I agree with you on that.

  • @Melemmiez
    @Melemmiez 6 місяців тому +7

    The internet is unrealistic sometimes. I know from experience I’ve been trying for 6 years to learn a language and I’ve had progress but Im still bad at communicating and still not brilliant, I’m bad at a language due to Duolingo etc , This video answered my questions. thanks

    • @Angelovanrooij
      @Angelovanrooij  6 місяців тому +1

      That sounds similar to my experience with Japanese. Not because I learnt from duolingo but because I did not learn to communicate / in a natural way. I memorized too much grammar. Memorization feels like you're making progress, which is similar to what duolingo does...

  • @nuhu784
    @nuhu784 6 місяців тому +5

    I'm glad because I can understand you without subtitles

    • @Angelovanrooij
      @Angelovanrooij  5 місяців тому +1

      That means you're acquiring English!

  • @nospectro0896
    @nospectro0896 6 місяців тому +2

    I did subscribe but I'm having curiosity, what is this google extension you use to search meaning of japanese in duolingo ?? 😮

    • @Angelovanrooij
      @Angelovanrooij  6 місяців тому +2

      Good question! It's called rikaikun. The logo is the 理 in 理解 :)

  • @Ph34rNoB33r
    @Ph34rNoB33r 6 місяців тому +2

    Duolingo has some conflict of interests. They want to keep you on the platform, so it's more important that you're entertained and feel like you're learning than actual learning.
    And it feels like this has increased since they became a public company in 2021.

    • @Angelovanrooij
      @Angelovanrooij  5 місяців тому +1

      I guess it makes sense from a business point of view. But not when you're actually trying to learn a language, unfortunately

  • @consciouscactus
    @consciouscactus 6 місяців тому +4

    Good video, your points are great, but please fix the audio for your next videos, it is heavily biased to the left side.

    • @Angelovanrooij
      @Angelovanrooij  6 місяців тому +1

      And here I hoped it was better this time.... I'll look into it, thank you so much for letting me know!

  • @fcguy1
    @fcguy1 6 місяців тому +5

    Really good video! You got a new sub!

  • @popdancecharly
    @popdancecharly 5 місяців тому +1

    The answers is you have to input into the language what you learning,repeat,and im learning inglish like this,

  • @marla0412
    @marla0412 5 місяців тому +3

    I feel like people don't really try to actually learn languages anymore? I'm sorry to say this but if all you do is learn with Duolingo and don't interact with the language at all outside of that, you might as well stop wasting your time entirely :/

    • @marcelberes469
      @marcelberes469 5 місяців тому +3

      Spot on! You have to actually interact with content made for natives to truly learn it.

    • @Angelovanrooij
      @Angelovanrooij  5 місяців тому +1

      Exactly! I feel like some people see 'language learning' as a 'hobby' that one can do all by themselves. And the worst part is that they won't get the results they're being promised by apps like duolingo....

  • @summerwinter89
    @summerwinter89 6 місяців тому +2

    pimsleur works