The Knockout Sonic The Fighters Retrospective
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- Hey guys! Hope you all enjoyed the development and artstyle discussion of Sonic the Fighters. It had such a strange and interesting development cycle! Sonic the Fighters is a blast to play! Anyways thanks for watching the video on Sonic the Fighters Development! :D
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Sonic The Fighters Development - sonicretro.org
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Sonic The Fighters Development - sonicfandom.com
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The Last Arcade Crusaders - 1up.com
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Fighting Vipers 1 Sonic and Tails gameplay - Krizalid99v2
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Artstyle & Music 8:57
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FIRST! Do I get pinned ?
Apperently
Yes, I guess
No
This game just looks absolutely timeless. You constantly see people trying to capture the 3D Sonic aesthetic, with games like ROBO BLAST 2, those UA-cam 3D Sonic3&K animations etc.
And people forget that, STF did it unironically already. What makes it so lovely is the use of large polygons but great art direction. No aisiling etc. Instead of trying to cover up the sharp corners of 90s 3D, they embraced it and it never gets old.
You say STF did it unironically, how tf would STF even do it ironically what does that even mean
Sonic the fighters is a underrated gem in my opinion it's really good. Not just that this video was good as well I'm gald stf is getting the respect it deserves.
Absolutely agreed! I've never heard anyone substantiate on what apparently makes this game so awful.
This game had a lot of personality that I liked. Combining the colorful cast of Sonic with the action of Virtua Fighter was a good idea. And it still felt very cartoony too with faces being squashed from big attacks and stuff like that
@@-Gwa I hope it gets ported in switch,ps5,xbox series x,pc.
Not really an animator myself but i do wanna gush about the animation! Sonic's design is reminiscent of rubberhose cartoons like Mickey Mouse, the gloved hands, round body and noodle limbs! Rubberhose animation is different because it stretches proportions and squashes anatomy (squash and stretch) breaking the boundaries of what is physically possible to get slapstick violence or exagerrated emotion (ex. Being able to pull on espio's tongue, fists becoming bigger with every punch to emphasize the hit, bodys getting squashed to emphasize being hit). Sonic the fighters is impressive to me cause they actually got sonic's animation right! He's a rubberhose mascot! Very few 3d games in the modern era use squash and stretch animation (shadow the hedgehog and lost world comes to mind) opting for motion capture animation making sonic look stiff or mascotsuit-like. I really reccommend new frame plus's video on sonic's animation were he goes through each game looking at sonic's animation!!
Edit: correction
I'd be really happy if some sonic games leaned closer on the cartoony aspect of the characters. It doesn't have to be the whole game like just use it for gameplay animations or certain comedic moments in the story. I guess one complaint would be the tonal shift if their going for a semi serious story, but I think with a clear distinction of tone they can balance out both aspects.
@@vohloo9797 I'm still a firm believer in that Sonic Riders had the BEST comedic timing in any of the games. Just view a few of the cutscenes some standout moments are Knuckles' eyes getting dizzy from Tails' science talk, Wave spedup talking while Jet runs away and the whole Amy chasing Sonic around. It's very slapstick and cartoonlike. For gameplay, New Frame Plus puts it best: The worst games always have the best animations. Unleashed's Night levels actually does employ squash and stretch with each attack and platforming you can SEE werehog's form stretch his proportions. Shadow the Hedgehog and Lost world also employs squash and stretch, when shadow kicks or jumps you can see his proportions stretch and in Lost world his bounces and kicks stretches the ball to an oval.
Recently Sonic Mania also employs squash and stretch, (easier in 2D honestly), the infamous smear frames in the title screen and Mighty's Hammerdrop first comes to mind.
Anw, ideally it would be lovely if Sonic Team actually joined the best parts all their games have to offer Writing, Animation and Gameplay.
@@briegab6491 yeah I usually think of riders when it comes to comedy and the werehog always reminded me of Popeye which I guess is because of those principles of animations displayed. The cartoony aspects don't have to be too drastic just small details emphasizing weight and speed (the games you mentioned and a few 3d fan games do it nicely), coupled with a good story and gameplay and we're set.
Man, it's great seeing Sonic the Fighters being disscussed so much more as of recent.
The 90's Sonic aesthetic in this game, combined with AM2's style, actually made it timeless.
It aged better than most 3D Sonic game made by Sega
@@ikagura that’s true
@NS 317 also daytona usa could have had a better port which would have been good, it also could have had better hardware
That was great! People always say that their favourite Sonic game is ""underrated"", but Sonic the Fighters is one of the few Sonic games that TRULY is underrated.
Also, "blue rat soul" is now my favourite term to describe Sonic lol
Super happy you enjoyed! Thanks so much for watching and it’s true this game is just pure soul bahahaha:))
5:51
I swear that model is used for the title screen render in Sonic cd
you and cybershell are my favorite sonictubers at the moment, keep makin bangers bro
Thank you! To even be mentioned in the same vein as the GOAT really does mean a lot to me. Thanks for watching!
Knocked it out of the park with your video
You nailed the intro was grinning the whole time.
I played this game over and over and over as a little kid. Ahhhh memories
I just find it incredible that a game from 1996 has some of the most stand out (and faithful) character designs with squash and stretch animations of not just games of that era but of the entire sonic series.
My friend, this was very refreshing! Finally someone who adores this game.
So do I.
This game truly deserves more love!
I'm a sucker for any low-poly sonic I can get, including Fighters
If it wasn't for Sonic Gems Collection or Sonic Mega Collection. I don't think I would be as much of a Sonic fan as I am today.
Those games carried sonic in the 2000’s. And sonic heroes
Sonic the Fighter, I’ve Sega try to make a other Sonic Fighting Game in the future or remake this one I’m pretty sure anyone would but it I definitely would buy this game. We need to Sega to try this attempt again
Whether official or not, if an sequel was ever made for this game they certainly wouldn’t be short on the variety of characters they could use. As well as, how they could give character to the character’s fighting styles. Like giving metal his black sheild and copy ability, make cream’s chao as much of an menace (dps wise) they were in sonic advance, shadow with his guns, vehicles, and chaos abilities, and maybe make sonic’s werehog form from unleash be an unlockable character to name an few ideas.
Once again, you blew it out of the water bro! Awesome job!!!
I love the clean look of all the models in sonic the fighters. Rosy the Rascal being my favorite and is what lead me to loving that design the most. I even got a plush of that design
I was so stoked when it dropped on 360 way back when. Came home, downloaded it, and I knocked out all of the achievements for it pretty quick. Still boot it up from time to time. Not a whole lot to the game but it's well made and a lot of fun. Would love to see Honey the Cat come back one day.
This game is peak 90s for me. The music, the art direction, the animation, everything is stylistic perfection and comes together beautifully. The game itself is also pretty fun too even if it is a bit simplistic. The thing with the subnames in the music titles kind of reminds me of how most of the classic Sonic games have these esoteric paragraphs in english on the Japanese box art, they're equally as dramatic and I love them so much. I think this is also the only PlayStation video game I've gotten a Platnium trophy (It's not hard to get one at all for this game, but it's still the only one I've done it for) Also I love Honey the Cat even if she's just like a cat version of a Fighting Vipers character I hope she's used again for literally anything.
she actually appeared in some of the comics. She has a cameo in idw classic and theres a aonic the fighters arc in archie sonic
Sonic The Fighters is my favorite classic Sonic game. Nothing can change my mind.
sigma mindset
I absolutely agree with you, this game deserves more recognition despite me not playing it before I've seen gameplay UA-cam vids as a kid, and i grew fond of this game ever since
It was crazy how much innovation was going on in the 90s and 2000s. Video games were undergoing a Renaissance. Everyone was in competition in the market and everything was new, not just to the average gamer but to those outside of the gaming sphere. Everyone was suddenly interested in the technology, whether it was the Bit Wars or whatever was going on with the Nintendo DS or the Wii and how we could use parts of that tech everywhere else.
I do really like a good fighting game, that being said I’ve never played Fighters but it did always intrigue me with its charm and aesthetic. I did just start getting into Yakuza so maybe I’ll finally get to it when I get to Lost Judgement way down the line lol
Love how people called this Sonic 4 back in the day LOL.
Genuinely have always loved this game, glad to see a video on it!
This was a great video, you clearly went in depth in researching about this game in almost every aspect, and the occasional tone down from facts to admiration like the animations and music with great pacing.
I'll consider subscribing!
another great vid eldarin, just what i was expecting haha. made sure to watch as soon as i got on lunch break! keep this up dude. i appreciate your content
I absolutely love this game's art style and expressiveness. Obviously since it's not the most well known, I don't hear much about it, but I do remember some people talking about how the animation was bad. That confused me quite a bit, and assumed that was the prevailing opinion, so it's really nice to see you giving the praise it deserves.
Any chance you'll cover Sonic 3D Blast and Sonic R at some point? The former I've recently replayed with a six button controller (its D-Pad is far superior to the one on the three button controller), and I'm liking it more than I used to.
Seriously though, Sonic games made by a UK developer. That is pretty sweet.
I absolutely love Sonic the Fighters! I have it on my Xbox 360 and its so fun! I have 15 minutes as Sonic as well
Sonic The Fighters was also my go-to-game on the Sonic Gems Collection. Fantastic game and this great video taught me a lot of things I didn't know about such as the creation of Sonic's 3D model, the fact that a Saturn version was considered and Yuji Naka's concerns regarding Sonic's short limbs.
Sonic the Fighters was my most played game on Sonic Gems Collection. It's pretty fun.
Didn't expect a video about sonic the fighters
But it was a great video 👍
You should do more about less known sonic games
8:09 these portraits remind me of the missing and wanted posters from Generations for Bean, Bark, Fang, Mighty, & Ray.
Nah, man, Sonic Vs Knuckles (North Wind) - THAT'S a beast of a track.
Honestly, getting a little cliché how we have both had some oddly specific shared interests.
I vividly remembering talking to my brother one day, and he stated, "Yo, there's this game called Sonic The Fighters on the Xbox Arcade, and it's really easy to get all the achievements." I personally do not care about achievements, but I loved Sonic then, while my brother just didn't really know much of what a 'Sonic' was. So, without question, I played it.
God, I was addicted, and it was hella fun. I mained Bark the Polar Bear, and I didn't even know that this was his only appearance (I'm disregarding Team Hooligan, I never read any comics).
It was simple, charming, fun, and it had Sonic. I wasn't the best, but I'd love to try, and I'm not competitive. And after playing it recently in my journey, nothing gives me that nostalgic, cathartic joy of cycloning that smug Air Grabbing and Dropping shit Tail multiple times int the air until he hits the wall, bounces off exaggeratedly, and then proceed to leap to curbstomp with the force of a giant ass polar bear accelerating through the air.
This game got to the point, in which my friends were like. "Ay bro, you wanna get on Rocket Lea- oh son of bitch. Get off that shit."
The music is amazing, it's again, charming. My favorite is Tails's Blue Canyon Cruise, despite that smug shit's grab move (I haven't recovered).
The Squash and Stretch patent is actually really cool! I'm not an animator, but I do understand what this stuff means, and the fact they even decided to create a squash and stretch simulation for the game makes the game so much more... charming.
It like a second Sonic R to me. I love the short, but immensely enjoyable romp of a game. They both scratch that itch, and I will continue to love and play both games.
Essentially, if my overuse of one term doesn't tell you my thoughts, Sonic the Fighters may be quite a fun game, and is amazing on most fronts, but more importantly, it's charming.
Edit] Forgot to mention. I love the Lockheed Martin mention. I'm a big jethead sometimes, and that stuff is always cool as hell.
Used to love playing this with my friends
Hey, dude! Another great video!
I’m a huge fan of Fighters too and I love the aesthetic of the game! Those models are perfection!
I am so happy you mentioned that this game will be featured in Lost Judgment! I’m honestly so happy that is happening!
Though I’m a bit surprised you only mentioned the Xbox Live re-release and not the PSN one too. It came to both.
Don’t forget about the official lyrics to Aurora Icefield too! I believe you can hear them on the menus of Sonic Gems Collection!
I know I'm a bit late to the party but.
I remember Playing this game when I was a kid in Sonic Gems Collection, It was the game I played the most from the game collection. And now revisinting it's soundtrack hits me with nostalgia, I almost teared up listening to "Casino Night (Here We Go)" and "Death Egg's Eye (Never Let It Go)" wich are still my personal favourites.
One of my favourite details was how you were able to keep hiting characters after K.O. I allways did that when I had the chance.
I also remember Metal Sonic Being really hard and then EggMan being really easy for some reason.
This game was a masterpiece for my time!
Glad you decided to make a video on this game it’s not talked about much
Aaahhh now you've done it
I gotta beat this game again :'D
I’m glad someone else thinks the same way! The aesthetics of this game are amazing, and I love the models. To top it off, it has one my favourite soundtracks of the series. I love that Korg M1 sound!
Banger alert 🚨
A new sonic fighting would definitely be interesting whether if it’s a 2d fighter or a 3d one
I was just listening to the sonic the fighters soundtrack today, weird. Cool video!
The Sonic v Knuckles Theme from this game is STILL the hypest shit I've heard in a fighting game
I still remember this as one of the Highlight games on the Gems collection alongside Sonic R, which was how I discovered Fighters back in the day, as for my favorite song from the game that would be Never Let It Go as that songs always stuck in my mind when I'd think of this game or even on its own would randomly pop into thought every few years or so.
Always look forward to a new upload!
Cool video!
I really want to play this game someday
Awesome job!!!!!
YOOOOO this is some great stuff, didn't expect this game
Even though i didn't play this game but i watched a few gameplay video on it and the game seems like pretty fun the way the characters move and punch might get a little weird sometimes but the game still feels like a decent beat em up game from sonic series and great video eldarin your contents are just pure fun and interesting to watch also can you one day make a video of knuckles chaotix because i really want to see what was the inspiration behind my favorite team in sonic series.
Another banger of a video. Looking forward to seeing your cover Sonic Unleashed
I agree the art style in this game is fantastic! So expressive and charming.
I've always wanted to own the arcade cabinet for both This, and 'segasonic arcade' - but finding either in my country is... not 'borderline impossible' - but more like... winning the lottery twice in a day xD
Nice job again
I remember back when I was Young I never knew what an Xbox 360 or PS2 or PS3 was until the day when I visited my Little Brother’s Hospital he was sick and Really Sick he couldn’t come home yet. But one day when me and my Cousin and Grandma and Uncles went to My Brother’s Hospital that was when we knew Sonic The Fighters was the Best Fighting Game I’ve ever played when I was Young as well as Smash Bros Brawl, when me and my Cousin were in my Brothers Hospital Bedroom we saw a Arcade Machine with an Xbox 360 installed in it near the Room so My Brother and Cousin showed it to me and it was Sonic The Fighters playing on the System as soon as me and My Brother and Cousin sat down on the Little Wheel Chairs we knew this was the best game to play at a Hospital me and my Brother and Cousin had so much Fun my Mains were Sonic and Tails while my Brother was Knuckles and my Cousin were Amy we all loved it until when it was time to leave it was Night when we played it and we’ve played it for I think an Hour so when we left I told my Brother “Goodbye it was a really good Game” and never saw him again until 2015 when he was being sent back Home I stayed at Grandmas for a while during the Time so I was excited to see him back. And that’s my Story of when I first Played Sonic The Fighters.
I never played this game but after watching this I’ll go out of my way to play this now i love the low poly characters
Makes me really happy to hear that! it’s definitely not a super deep fighting game or anything but it’s a fun romp with a lot of character/charm packed into it. hope you enjoy it!
I didn’t even knew how much i needed this video😅
Dang this game’s aged well look at that cartoon squash and stretch unlike gritty realism this stuff doesn’t look ugly
Sonic Fighters is a hidden gem just like the 8th chaos emerald in the game. But for real i would love a recent sonic fighting game with the modern cast using animations in style db Fighterz, and more combo complexity, nice video!
Arc system sonic fighting game would be my dream game
Hell yea eldarin upload is mega pog
2:43 There is something really funny about seeing that big guy ass kicking the opponents.
Yeah I really like the graphics, the character models are so nice. I wish the original Sonic Adventure looked like this. I know characters go through redesigns, but I wish they held off on that a little longer than they did. Oh well.
A video idea:
The Rushed Development And Disastrous Release Of Sonic 06
I remember playing sonic the fighters all the time! I loved everything about it! The music, the gameplay, the game design, the animation and more!
Bark was such a pain in the ass when getting super sonic
this was my first sonic game ever. I played hours of this as sonic
I remember being soooo obsessed with the idea of playing this based of magazines and 90s sonic websites. I bought sega gems collection immediately! I didnt realize its in lost judgement, oh man 👀
Even if Smash Bros was the superior fighting game Sega did pretty good with Vipers and Megamix.
Absolutely adore Sonic the Fighters, glad to see it get some love
This game deserves more love
The intro to the track "Fire Stone," is my absolute favorite in this OST. I wish I still had Gems Collection so I can play this game.
ALSO i love this game for saving Amy from obscurity. This game is the reason Amy was even considered for SA1. Thank you to whoever advocated for her to have that hammer!
I remember raging at the metal sonic fight
This game was worthy of a sequel which i will post to kishimoto.
My favorite character to play as was espionage and my favorite song came from the dynamite plant fight
I found the stuff about the arcade machine boards to be most interesting. It’s amazing how aerospace innovations ended up benefitting video games.
Always found this game very fascinating, especially as a fan of Sonic, Virtua Fighter, and Fighting Vipers.
Cool video
i absolutely need to see these models remastered
Having not played this game I have a lot ofnappreciation for it anyway for its inclusion of Espio and Fang, as well as the introductions of Bean, Bark, and arguably Honey the Cat, I would join a cult dedicated to Honey. I heard a bit of the story of how the game came together from Matt McMuscles who discussed Virtua Fighter's eventual failure in the arcades partially due to oversaturation of Sega fighting games, but this video sheds a lot more light on this part of the puzzle in particular, the game's very existence was a surprising, funny story and the info on how the new characters, Sonic-themed levels and all the other little details came together was laid out wonderfully here, another great video.
Might be time to knock out two birds in one stone and look into Yakuza finally with Yakuza Judgement so I can get Lost Judgement when it drops and play this game in it, while not the most technically expert fighting game from what I hear, it absolutely bleeds charm and oozes style as you showcase in this video.
My favorite classic sonic game
I played Sonic The Fighters so much on my PS2 together with my friend, we always suffered when fighting Metal Sonic but we always had our way, Sonic Gems Collection it was part of my childhood and I confess that even though it's short it's a game that gave way to the idea of a series of Big Blue fighting games, the scenarios, the songs, a story, moveset, etc. Sonic SmackDown is a promising fangame that can be used as a base, whether it's a Street Fighter, The King of Fighters, Tekken or Virtua Fighters style game, it doesn't matter, what matters is to be a Sonic fighting game with the characters we like, with a good story, fun gameplay and everything that's right.
Polygons as big as houses. And I love it
ayo new video nicee
Sure would love this to be added to Steam
I got the Virtua Fighter 5 remake on launch & I loved it. Sure beats the only other VF game I've played which was VF2 for the Genesis.
i used to play this game years ago whenever i visited the hospital
Back in the day of the early 2010s, I remember people always hating the game a lot.
I remember playing this at like Chuck E. Cheese when I was like 6 and loving it. The mirror matches blew my mind.
I will always say the Sonic the Fighters is the most underrated 3D Sonic OST out there. Too many people sleep on it. Really wish Sega would at least toy with the idea of a Sonic the Fighters 2. It doesn't need to be competitive, just some stupid fun like the first one.
Okay, another based video, keep that up man. I hoped you'll make the video about sonic battle
PUSH THE START BUTTON TO COMMIT SEVERAL WAR CRIMES
Typo in the title. It should be "Its", not "It's".
yeah, i want to make a game with this sort of art style.
Never played this game but it's history and development is amazing. The art style is very good for a 90's 3D video game and looking back at the Saturn-styled SA1 concept art, if that game was made with this art style it would've looked beautiful (I'm not saying it doesn't look beautiful how it is, but if SA1 was made with Classic Sonic and not Modern then I would choose this style to make the game).
The things I would do for a sequel to this with the Modern cast
Nice
Y'know what. I'm gonna get this.
It would be pretty dope to have a sequel or a spiritual successor of Sonic the fighters.