Necrophilia is one of the most horrendous things I can even imagine. The thought of accidentally stumbling upon, SEEING and standing only feet away from deceased person would be enough to traumatize me. These dudes doing what they did months after murdering her is beyond my comprehension
Just imagine the awful decomp gas that would have come out of her during their "sessions" by lying on top of her... Gross. I'm against big funerals/embalming, so I do them myself for family. If you've ever dressed a corpse for burial, even one that's less than 24 hours old, that happens if you even try and turn them, and it's nasty.
The thought of people who can actually do this ( have sex on the dead ) is a very scary thought. Like it speaks as to how absolutely horrible they are to the very evil core !
CORRECTION: Venom's "Black Metal" was their second album, not their debut. Not sure how I let that slip through. I've been watching this show for years, so its really weird to see myself show up in an episode. Thanks for letting me bring the quality down, Jiles 🤘🤘
That poor girl must have been terrified and in so much pain. One of her killers has already been paroled, which was a travesty. The other two should never get out of jail.
To be fair, he's the only one who showed regret, confessed, and led officers to her body. It's doubtful they'd ever be caught unless the ME thought to take swabs from a decaying corpse.
@uwcb1 - Royce Casey was NOT paroled. It went back and forth for two years, but ultimately, the California Court of Appeal agreed with Governor Newsom and blocked Casey’s release and he remains in prison. Interestingly, Elyse’s family did not fight Casey’s parole, partly because it was Royce Casey who led police to her body (after several months). But they want the other two to never be released.
@@miserychannel69exactly he's just as much of a piece of shit as the other two were. He doesn't deserve to get out any earlier unfortunately though that is our great justice system😂
Poor Elise. She needed friends she could trust, and instead had her vulnerability taken advantage of. Things must have been very rough with her parents, and there was likely a lot of misunderstanding between them. It's tragic that she never got to grow up, and that they never got to know and love each other as equals.
yeah but Jiles voice and style is so enjoyable as much as I can't stand that other costipated clown :( second time in 3 days I see him in my fav channels, what is happening?!
It can influence people. Look at drill rap. An entire generation of wanna be gang bangers taking eachother out all involved in the drill rap culture. They literally live what the music talks about lol
@@ghostfrieza2904the average death metal band does not sacrifice virgins in the woods. The average drill rapper does witness or participate in shootings. I think there is a big difference there.
As someone who was not only around for the original heavy metal/ satanic scare but who was also part of that world as senior editor of RIP magazine in the 1980s and 90s, I LOVED this episode! It really upsets me that this girl’s poor parents tried so hard to lay the blame on a band for the actions of these sick individuals. As journalists, we fought really hard for creative freedom. Also, your friend rules and I subscribed to his channel. It’s really awesome to hear a new generation talk about the history of heavy metal with the same extreme passion as we did the first time around.
upsetting that the parents tried to blame music, yes, but understandable :/ probably 2 grief-stricken parents who don’t understand the heavy metal scene, who saw it as symptomatic of a larger problem amongst ‘the youth’ and the ‘slope into degeneracy’ or whatever that Elyse was on, who couldn’t comprehend (or want to believe) that such young people were capable of horrible crimes, and who were searching for anything to direct their anger towards…
@@JanissGoddess well hey I still stand behind my statement... I am not worthy. In 1991 I was an 11 year old girl who was into new kids on the block bell biv devoe and faith no more equally. I would stay up late to catch headbangers ball on MTV. I loved music all kinds of music. Teen beat and RIP were my literature happy places. Now keep in mind a lot of the articles in rip were over my head because you know I was 11 but nonetheless I would read it cover to cover. Sorry I'm just like a little starstruck and I know this is so like cringe... but just thank you. like a very heartfelt thank you for all your hard work on that magazine. It was an insight into a world that I had no place being in but was so drawn to. Thank you.
I appreciate you highlighting how violent media is not the cause of violence. I have seen way too many creators of true crime content overly focusing on the movies, music, and books that monsters such as these consumed, and it always leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Whenever a murderer reads Stephen King, watches Evil Dead or listens to Iron Maiden, it's brought up. Yet somehow we never hear about them listening to pop or country music, or reading comic books, or watching American Pie 🤷🏽...
@ChrisOSemrik. While I agree with you to an extent. However some forms of media can absolutely cause violence, especially Porn. Now depending on what type of Porn you’re watching, studies show people are less likely to be violent if they watch “Mainstream Porn”, stuff like Jenna Haze, Sasha Grey, Lisa Ann etc etc, that’s mainstream porn. But those that become addicted to more violent and taboo forms of Porn are much more likely to commit violence. Ted Bundy is living proof of that, Bundy said in an interview that the more Porn he saw through magazines and grindhouse theatres the more he got addicted to it and when you become addicted to Porn the more you want it harder and heavier until it becomes unable to find it so you seek it out for yourself. As someone who’s also addicted to Porn, Bundy was 100% right, you start craving harder and taboo types of Porn, until it reaches its max, and that’s when sexual violent thoughts enter the mind as it has now with me. Horror movies as well, but it depends on what type of Horror movies you’re watching, as Horror movies that depict sexual violent acts can cause someone to vomit violence. Now I’m not for censorship and I can’t fucking stand censorship. But when it comes to Extreme Horror movies like Salo, I Spit On Your Grave, etc etc that show a lot of sexual violence, they pretty much become like violent Porn. But mental health is also a huge factor, as people with depression, anxiety, feeling lonely, Bipolar or have been through trauma etc etc are more likely to seek out and become addicted to violent Porn.
@@geraldinenolan6312 No I don’t. I think it’s mainly stuff that depicts sexual violence that can cause sexual violent behaviour. Stuff like being addicted to violent and taboo forms of Porn, and Horror movies that depict a lot of sexual violence, movies like Salo, A Serbian Film, I Spit On Your Grave. As I said in my comment Ted Bundy was 100% right that being addicted to Porn makes you want to find harder and more taboo forms of Porn until it reaches its max and the only way is to seek it out for yourself with sexual violent behaviour. Im at that stage now thinking of sexual violent thoughts, I don’t think I would act on them, but watching rape scenes as an example turns me on. But I’m also not for censorship, I fucking hate censorship as it hinders our creativity and freedom of expression. So when it comes to violence in media no I don’t think it causes violent behaviour, unless it’s sexual violence in media which I do think can cause sexual violent behaviours, I mean Ted Bundy is living proof of that.
@nu-metalfan2654 Thanks for being honest and sharing where you're at. As an elder, the porn online and the type of porn easily available is frightening to me. Back in the day pornography was a magazine on the top shelf! I think I was suggesting that violent video games desensitise. And I hadn't thought of I Spit On Your Grave for decades!! Please don't turn into Mr Bundy!
The parents must have felt so awful once they realized that they had essentially put their daughter in rehab which surrounded her with unsavory (putting it VERY lightly) people, which led to her death.
Yes what a gross overreaction, just for a harmless spliff. Probably why they tried to shift guilt from their god fearing minds onto a handful of musicians
@@pommunist I agree it was an overreaction, but you have to remember that this was nearly 30 years ago. Weed was still seen as a “hard” drug to an extent. The internet was only just introduced and wasn’t viable to do research like it is today, so if you didn’t grow up around it or know anyone who did it, you might as well be doing cocaine or heroin. They really cared about their daughter, and we all know teenagers are stubborn as all hell. Odds are they feared her ending up like the folks from “Reefer Madness” and overreacted due to the time period. This is obviously 100% speculation, and my purpose of this rant was mainly to remind people that those were different times and sending their child to rehab would have been the go to answer for their situation. I was 13 when I first tried weed and 16 when it became a habit. We now know that smoking it habitually at such a young age has negative consequences on a developing brain.
I grew up on heavy metal love heavy metal and still do. I've never felt like hurting or killing anybody when listening to heavy metal music. Some people are just evil and they gotta find someone to blame
It’s the opposite for me, I love rock music, and when I hear metal it makes me so angry inside and irritated , could honestly punch a wall, can’t even listen to 5 mins of it, there’s a reason folk get hurt in moshpits with idiots all running round punching people, acting like toddlers having tantrums, if it didn’t have that effect on people thered be no need for a mosh pit
GREAT Video, and thank you for explaining the satanic panic nonsense clearly and objectively.....As a kid who grew up in a Christian household (and *Gasp* Played a simple form of D&D) I appreciate the material and that it is PEOPLE who commit acts which has always been the focus of this channel...and calling out rightly when people use Faith/Religion as a cover. Thank you for your work...
@ThisisMONSTERS I'm completely blown away finding out you're into punk. As a 80-90's punk myself it's always rad to see what happens when punks branch out into other things. Stay gold!! 🤘✌
Dude, you need to check out his other channel Sinister. He has a punk introspective video and another more recent about that punk festival in 2006 where a riot broke out after a bunch of Neo-N@zi skinheads and anti-racist skinheads got in a brawl. (Literally just watched that second vid and thought of you!) 🤘 [edited to correct my introspective/retrospective mix up]
This channel and THAT CHAPTER r the best there is!! Keep doing what u do man!! We will b here trying 2 patiently wait til the next episode!! Love how well done every episode is! Even of I have heard the story b4 I learn more about it thru u!!! Loving it!😊
Hope wherever u r now makes ur family smile but hope internet service is good cause I always worry when it's time for a new episode!!! Wishing u and ur family all the happiness in the world!!
I'm a hippy folk music girl but i'm going to subscribe because it was super interesting to learn about different music genres. Fair play. Great episode
Listened to, and loved SLAYER for the vast, overwhelming majority of my life!! Seen them in concert every time they came to Atlanta since I was 13, right up until 2011. R.I.P. Jeff Hanneman! Despite that fact, I never tried to sacrifice a virgin..... Besides, you'd be hard-pressed to find a virgin at, or anywhere near, a Thrash Metal concert!!
@@heavymetalredneck7973 I got to meet Tom back around 93 or so. He was just like "hey nice to meet you! Love the shirt!" That type of stuff. I wasn't expecting him to be a dick but I wasn't expecting such a sunny ball of sunshine either. And yeah, Corpsegrinder is a real sweet guy. One of the most wholesome people I've ever seen 🤣
There’s a local record store here in Downey and the owner (a super nice guy named Rick who is the lead guitarist of Sadistic Intent) went to high school with Tom and has a signed copy of their first vinyl. He says Tom is one of the sweetest and realest people you’ll ever meet and a ride or die kind of guy.
Can someone please explain to me how this channel hasn't reached at least 1000000 subscribers like a year ago?????? Love the content and look forward to every video bro!! Your a fucking genius
I've been a Sub to this channel for many years & today I just realized that I'm mysteriously not subbed any longer. I Subbed again, but this YT bs happens too often in my opinion.
Thank you for showing slayer the respect they deserve. I grew up with this music and it got me through a lot of stuff. And I definitely remember the Satanic panic we had to hide the fact that we played dungeons and dragons. We had to tell even other kids that were we were meeting for other reasons we couldn’t tell anybody. It was because people thought we were worshiping the devil if we played dungeons and dragons. Oh it was awful so glad that Satanic panic is over.
This is absolutely the saddest to hear of a young lady being killed because she trusted the three guys she thought were her friends. I feel very these three no matter if the have changed should not be released. The Haynes sexual acts they did to her were terrible but then they continued many time after. There are no words to understand what kind of person does that. My sincere condolences to her family especially her mother and her father. I hope but doubt that one day they will be able to move one, I know I would not.
Just a note on the lawsuit filed by the family against Slayer - this was in 1990 so it was around the same time as the Judas Priest lawsuit, which was dismissed. As the Slayer lawsuit was also dismissed I just wonder if either decision had an influence on the other, despite the legal ramifications of First Amendment protections? Just a thought. Fantastic episode. Took me back to my Metal soaked teen years and reminded me of the case of Ricky Kasso who also killed a 'friend' in the name of 'Satan'. The book 'Say You Love Satan' chronicles the entire sordid story and aftermath. Both stories tell of very tragic and unnecessary deaths.
Jiles: Thanks for that heavy metal music lesson; I didn't know Slayer had been around since my birth.. It's unfortunate, imo, that they choose darker themes but it makes sense regarding shock value. However, as you say, most metal bands didn't include practicing what they were 'preaching' per se. My leanings at that time had more to do with discovereing punk which lead down rabbit holes of relatable music. Not as vast as your experiences, I'm sure.
Surprised nobody’s mentioned the movie “Jennifer’s Body” yet. This horrific case reminds me of part of the plot of that movie. Victimized for no reason other than the selfish gain of another. So sad. I Hope her family finds/has found peace.
@@louieberg2942 I've read a lot about alternative religions (I was raised Catholic so....) and you're right - the majority of Satanists are more into sex rituals. Aleister Crowley claimed that he had practiced ritual human sacrifice but there's nothing to prove that it ever actually happened so it was probably just a boast. He wasn't exactly a credible source. There's some speculation that early Druidic and Roman religious cults practiced human sacrifice and the Vikings certainly did but the people they sacrificed - either for their wealthy dead or to their gods - were willing volunteers. Making a sacrifice to Satan to make your metal band famous is just daft. Those boys should have tried praying for some talent instead.
@@Lady1974M praying for talent is asking for something deeply selfish from a god. There are people dying, asking god for the ability to be talented so they can make money and indulge in whatever they wanted is inherently evil. A better thing would be to practice and earn a career as opposed to praying that a being somewhere in the sky will just hand it to them because they asked. That is both lazy and entitled. Praying doesn't do anything, if that was the case everyone who ever screamed "please God no" when being killed or sexually assaulted would have divine intervention. That doesn't happen. So praying for talent is a presumptuous thought. Praying will do as much as hoping will. I'm a career musician, I was considered for a Grammy when I was a teenager, I've produced several albums, done audio for HBO, MGM, and done ads for Kia motors. No one I've ever worked with got anything from prayer. They got it from working hard and sacrificing their spare time to work. That's reality. Oh I was also raised Catholic. I can't believe people still actually believe in it. Harry Potter is just as believable.
I simply cannot get over how simply amazing this channel is.. Been a few days since i came across it and its like every video is just better than the previous one.. The commentary is superb, even some humor every now and again.. Even a video featuring a killer from my country South Africa.. Surprised the channel doesn't have a few million subscribers, people simply dont know what they missing out on.. But im sure with all the hardwork thats put into every video and time invested the million + subscribers will be coming soon soon!!!
To the narrator, punk and hardcore were so great when I was young in the 80s. Hope you got to experience it then too. I'm 53 now and it's still my favorite genre. Great job you do as a narrator. Your voice is easy to listen to and you in no way are annoying. Keep up the great work!
Love you Jiles I am pretty easily bored not focused on most youtube videos in your realm topic. But you always captivate me. I want to follow the story thank you. Also i got tickets to Iron Maiden for xmas. So excited about it. Plus its in Vegas. I live in Oregon but planning to see thrm at home too. What is weird is i punk fan too. But i always liked iron maiden. But Punk is my first love.
Oh thank God, monsters. I really needed u tonite. Thanks a million sincerely ur number one biggest fan n loyal subscriber n proud member of the monsters family~joany sohayda hoquiam, Washington. Aka the Pacific Northwest. Love u. N thanks for being there for me!!
Oh nice. I grew up in Bremerton. Did a bunch of construction work in Ocean Shores many years ago. I'll be back in the PNW this spring to visit my family.
Content like this makes me think a lot about how school kids and teens are brought together for 8 hours a day with such a random assortment of people and there hasn't been time yet to see violent tendencies or psychopathy manifested. It's crazy to think about how much can go wrong for us in our lives if we get involved with certain people as they grow into their destructive issues all in a storm of hormones and total inability to regulate emotions.
Your final comments really summed it up. The music did not make these kids commit murder. I do feel for Elise's parents. It was a brutal crime and as a parent, I can see wanting to have an answer or do something to bring justice for their daughter. HawkNload vwas great! Not a death metal fan but I am subscribing as I learned a lot about metal from him.
I just put on my slayer hoodie and now video about this case shows up, odd coincidence. This is such a sad case. I wish all good to people her death touched and that shes in a good place now. Great work once again, one of the best true crime channels ive ever came across.
I’ve been a metalhead all of my life, which also meant I was perpetually misunderstood by those who didn’t “get” it. I never understood how they tried to blame bands the way they did back in the day either. By doing that, it almost removes the responsibility from the person committing the crimes 👉🏻 and transfers blame to an innocent third party scapegoat. How is that justice? Why are we not blaming those who did the crime? It never made sense! Like back in 10th grade a particular Megadeth shirt I wore - I was told would make someone “want” to kill themselves, and I would be the one to blame for it if they did 👉🏻 so take it off! I ended up getting my punishment for that shirt (being told to initially take it off) all the way up to *3 days out of school detention* which was INSANE at the time. They changed the dress code too, because of that day with me at that school! NO SKULLS 😂, which I never listen! I refused to change, refused to apologize, and finally told the principal if someone was going to kill themselves, they were going to do it despite my shirt. He was lived! I was told that day I was going to hell, and I “deserved” it. Over a Megadeth shirt. People took that stuff waaaaaaaaaaay too seriously back then and it was ridiculous! I don’t miss those late Regan era witch-hunts, by the ever so loving Christians! What a joke! Btw, I was an honor student, and I really cared about school until that day. From that point on I was forever told I was trash (by certain teachers!), and weirdly judged, and made to feel like I was something terrible, all for my taste in MUSIC. I really don’t miss those days and I am proud that I stood up for myself, even if I got 3 days out of school over it! I’ve gone onto be a successful adult, successful single parent, and life has been really good for me. I STILL LISTEN TO METAL! I’m so glad I proved everyone one of those ugly people wrong 👍🏻! It feels really good to run into them and watch them eat their words 😂! And good episode btw! Sorry for my weird rant!
My dad is a minister and in the late 80s early 90s when Slayer was big he truly hated any band that anything to do with Satan. My friend Jerome used to come over with the Slayer album with the pentagram on the left corner and he set it on our mantle every time my dad left the room to tease me cuz he knew I would get my ass kicked if my dad saw it
Great episode that poor girl though. In our town we got had a guy that hung himself because of a Judas Priest song and Judas Priest was on trial we got free concerts every single night the case went on for two weeks they determine that that it was a sound effect in recording the song at the young man heard before he hung himself such sad stories about heavy metal music crime so so sad considering that some of these bands are so tame compared to some of the music we listen to dating all the way back to the 60s that were very heavy metal overseas
Let's please not forget that plenty of people who aren't actively violent choose to consume some media that is -- in my mind this applies both to the average fan of Slayer over the years and me, streaming & engaging with several true crime channels! I'm sad that Elyse's parents chose censorship & blaming/ suing the band Slayer as a course of action as if it was appropriate & worthwhile; it just seems to me as if a number of other responses would have been more respectable, constructive, etc. I'm sorry for their tragedy all the same. Thanks for sharing the stories in your style, Jiles.
Why is parole even a consideration for any of them? It doesn't matter if 'he's turned his life around."....their victim has no life to turn around because these three beast tortured and killed her,and then did the unmentionable to her for MONTHS afterward. They should be doing time in the state's worst prison.
I believe that if the parents won the lawsuit, they would work on getting rap music banned next, and after that, punk would not be looking too promising.
God every time a parent sues something entirely unrelated to their child's murder I can't help but roll my eyes. Like I know obviously it's an incredibly traumatic experience and it's easy to place blame, but how anybody can genuinely believe that music is such a corrupting influence that it drives people to murder is and always will be laughable and little more to me.
Anyone that doesn't believe/understand that the "devil" & "satanic" thoughts and/or acts are not true and very real better learn quickly. Theres coming a time very soon that all will see- choose God and nothing to fear ❤🙏🏻
I hate people that do this shit…..it’s hard enough to get through life and find fulfillment and the fact there are people so messed up they do this to someone that trusts them as friends….someone who had done nothing wrong and they took everything from her….fuck them
Tell me more about the heavy metal 411 guy. does he have a podcast? I'm intrigued and I like his style, presentation, and format. Ty for the upload Jiles. Love ya and miss ya fellow monsters. 😉🤘 Also, Gwar. Trollfest.
All three would have been released already here in the UK. The powers that be really need to consider that because this was next level heinous and the poor victim's family already got their life no parole sentences.
"There are definitely not any Satanic cults performing terrible rituals. There are, however, a whole bunch of individuals doing it." Whew, that's a relief. Almost thought it was a problem.
The same😢 As a broken teen, I got into my fair share of metal in the early 90s when I was like 12, through my friends. But even as broken as I was, I was never gonna cross that line. Now, looking back, those were my best years, with cool friends and constant search for new cd and reading lyrics on the cover and head banging lol skateboarding, playing handball…. They were my family❤ Hard to believe 30 years passed🤯
I have listened to all kinds of metal when I was a teenager. Never missed Headbanger’s Ball, new metal mags or major band releases. Only got to know other kids who were just into loud and fast music, nothing else. However I never got to know metal kids that looked so purely evil as that trio. They could have probably listened to polka and would still have killed someone.
As a Bush era kid I remember the nightly news having frequent evangelical talking heads come on and freak out over various flavors of metal. And I am of the exact same thought as Jiles. I grew up a latchkey kid of a troubled single mom and got very into punk. Not once did anything aggressive or violent sung by the bands I liked make me want to do actual violence.
I'm from the area where this happened and am the same age as them. My best friends grand parents had bought this second plot of land that was overgrown. His grandpa paid us 50$ each to go there every Saturday for a few hours and work on clearing it out. About a quarter mile down the road was the field where her body was buried. After she was found it creeped me out knowing that every Saturday for six weeks we were driving past her body and didn't even know it. Being apart of the metal community at the time I can tell that the "Satanic Panic" was real. There was this older guy I knew who owned a New Age/Occult/Wiccan shop that he had to shut down because people assumed the shop was linked to satanic worship and were protesting it.
If Joseph Jacob and Royce needed a virgin, all they had to do was look in the mirror. Excellent take on heavy metal and how it doesn't really go with the devil crap or violence, thank you.
Necrophilia is one of the most horrendous things I can even imagine. The thought of accidentally stumbling upon, SEEING and standing only feet away from deceased person would be enough to traumatize me. These dudes doing what they did months after murdering her is beyond my comprehension
Just imagine the awful decomp gas that would have come out of her during their "sessions" by lying on top of her... Gross. I'm against big funerals/embalming, so I do them myself for family. If you've ever dressed a corpse for burial, even one that's less than 24 hours old, that happens if you even try and turn them, and it's nasty.
And the decomposition with fluids leaking and skin sluffing off 🤢🤮 some sick DISCUSTING acts those boys did!!!
SAME , absolutely sick and twisted ,what is wrong with these people ? I've seen many many cases of this ,so it's not even unusual ,which is shocking .
The thought of people who can actually do this ( have sex on the dead ) is a very scary thought. Like it speaks as to how absolutely horrible they are to the very evil core !
I wonder whether they used condoms while penetrating the dead body. If not, the sense of crawling maggots must be unforgetable.
not even halfway through , i can already tell how well made this episode specifically is . what you do is absolutely incredible . much love !!
Thanks so much!
Goes without say…🤗👍🏆🇦🇺
should have waited till the end... it became a complete mess....
naaah.. from Spain
Fuckin Slayer!!!
CORRECTION: Venom's "Black Metal" was their second album, not their debut. Not sure how I let that slip through.
I've been watching this show for years, so its really weird to see myself show up in an episode. Thanks for letting me bring the quality down, Jiles 🤘🤘
You’re always welcome here.
Thanks. Concise and well put
U were awesome & gained a new sub!😁🤘
@@edgybarbie77 thank you!
Well, dangit, I now have a new channel to watch!
What that poor girl went through I can’t even imagine.
That poor girl must have been terrified and in so much pain. One of her killers has already been paroled, which was a travesty. The other two should never get out of jail.
To be fair, he's the only one who showed regret, confessed, and led officers to her body. It's doubtful they'd ever be caught unless the ME thought to take swabs from a decaying corpse.
@@pickles3128I dont know from where exactly his regret came from, but if you are able to do those acts to someone you are not human
@@zeroxcrusher he regretted getting caught.
@uwcb1 - Royce Casey was NOT paroled. It went back and forth for two years, but ultimately, the California Court of Appeal agreed with Governor Newsom and blocked Casey’s release and he remains in prison.
Interestingly, Elyse’s family did not fight Casey’s parole, partly because it was Royce Casey who led police to her body (after several months). But they want the other two to never be released.
@@miserychannel69exactly he's just as much of a piece of shit as the other two were. He doesn't deserve to get out any earlier unfortunately though that is our great justice system😂
Poor Elise. She needed friends she could trust, and instead had her vulnerability taken advantage of. Things must have been very rough with her parents, and there was likely a lot of misunderstanding between them. It's tragic that she never got to grow up, and that they never got to know and love each other as equals.
Came for the true crime story, stayed for the heavy metal history lesson
Heavy Metal! 🤘🏾
Right 😂
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yeah but Jiles voice and style is so enjoyable as much as I can't stand that other costipated clown :( second time in 3 days I see him in my fav channels, what is happening?!
Being a lifelong metal head I already knew all this stuff but it's a nice addition to the video. That metal.dude is cool
You can’t blame a band for someone else’s twisted interpretation of their art.
Well people like you do the same for other genres like rap so this is no different
Bingo! is Heavy stuff my bag....No. Am I A Christian...? Yes. They are to blame ONLY the kids are in charge of their own choices.
It can influence people. Look at drill rap. An entire generation of wanna be gang bangers taking eachother out all involved in the drill rap culture. They literally live what the music talks about lol
Yes you can absolutely judge a tree by its fruit and tell the musician their art manifested real death.
@@ghostfrieza2904the average death metal band does not sacrifice virgins in the woods. The average drill rapper does witness or participate in shootings. I think there is a big difference there.
As someone who was not only around for the original heavy metal/ satanic scare but who was also part of that world as senior editor of RIP magazine in the 1980s and 90s, I LOVED this episode! It really upsets me that this girl’s poor parents tried so hard to lay the blame on a band for the actions of these sick individuals. As journalists, we fought really hard for creative freedom. Also, your friend rules and I subscribed to his channel. It’s really awesome to hear a new generation talk about the history of heavy metal with the same extreme passion as we did the first time around.
Friend??? Is that you????
No way
I AM NOT WORTHY
@@MusicLeeSarahI’m not Lonn - he was my boss for about 5 years though.
upsetting that the parents tried to blame music, yes, but understandable :/
probably 2 grief-stricken parents who don’t understand the heavy metal scene, who saw it as symptomatic of a larger problem amongst ‘the youth’ and the ‘slope into degeneracy’ or whatever that Elyse was on, who couldn’t comprehend (or want to believe) that such young people were capable of horrible crimes, and who were searching for anything to direct their anger towards…
@@JanissGoddess well hey I still stand behind my statement... I am not worthy.
In 1991 I was an 11 year old girl who was into new kids on the block bell biv devoe and faith no more equally. I would stay up late to catch headbangers ball on MTV. I loved music all kinds of music. Teen beat and RIP were my literature happy places. Now keep in mind a lot of the articles in rip were over my head because you know I was 11 but nonetheless I would read it cover to cover.
Sorry I'm just like a little starstruck and I know this is so like cringe... but just thank you. like a very heartfelt thank you for all your hard work on that magazine. It was an insight into a world that I had no place being in but was so drawn to.
Thank you.
blaming art is as old as humans ...its so frustrating....the same with video games
This was tragic however I'm so glad that one of the three boys had a conscience, enough to come clean.
I appreciate you highlighting how violent media is not the cause of violence. I have seen way too many creators of true crime content overly focusing on the movies, music, and books that monsters such as these consumed, and it always leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Whenever a murderer reads Stephen King, watches Evil Dead or listens to Iron Maiden, it's brought up. Yet somehow we never hear about them listening to pop or country music, or reading comic books, or watching American Pie 🤷🏽...
@ChrisOSemrik. While I agree with you to an extent. However some forms of media can absolutely cause violence, especially Porn. Now depending on what type of Porn you’re watching, studies show people are less likely to be violent if they watch “Mainstream Porn”, stuff like Jenna Haze, Sasha Grey, Lisa Ann etc etc, that’s mainstream porn. But those that become addicted to more violent and taboo forms of Porn are much more likely to commit violence.
Ted Bundy is living proof of that, Bundy said in an interview that the more Porn he saw through magazines and grindhouse theatres the more he got addicted to it and when you become addicted to Porn the more you want it harder and heavier until it becomes unable to find it so you seek it out for yourself.
As someone who’s also addicted to Porn, Bundy was 100% right, you start craving harder and taboo types of Porn, until it reaches its max, and that’s when sexual violent thoughts enter the mind as it has now with me.
Horror movies as well, but it depends on what type of Horror movies you’re watching, as Horror movies that depict sexual violent acts can cause someone to vomit violence. Now I’m not for censorship and I can’t fucking stand censorship.
But when it comes to Extreme Horror movies like Salo, I Spit On Your Grave, etc etc that show a lot of sexual violence, they pretty much become like violent Porn.
But mental health is also a huge factor, as people with depression, anxiety, feeling lonely, Bipolar or have been through trauma etc etc are more likely to seek out and become addicted to violent Porn.
Do you think violent video games make an impact on younger people? And olders?
@@geraldinenolan6312 No I don’t.
I think it’s mainly stuff that depicts sexual violence that can cause sexual violent behaviour.
Stuff like being addicted to violent and taboo forms of Porn, and Horror movies that depict a lot of sexual violence, movies like Salo, A Serbian Film, I Spit On Your Grave.
As I said in my comment Ted Bundy was 100% right that being addicted to Porn makes you want to find harder and more taboo forms of Porn until it reaches its max and the only way is to seek it out for yourself with sexual violent behaviour.
Im at that stage now thinking of sexual violent thoughts, I don’t think I would act on them, but watching rape scenes as an example turns me on.
But I’m also not for censorship, I fucking hate censorship as it hinders our creativity and freedom of expression.
So when it comes to violence in media no I don’t think it causes violent behaviour, unless it’s sexual violence in media which I do think can cause sexual violent behaviours, I mean Ted Bundy is living proof of that.
@nu-metalfan2654 Thanks for being honest and sharing where you're at. As an elder, the porn online and the type of porn easily available is frightening to me. Back in the day pornography was a magazine on the top shelf!
I think I was suggesting that violent video games desensitise.
And I hadn't thought of I Spit On Your Grave for decades!!
Please don't turn into Mr Bundy!
@nu-metalfan2654 Do you mind telling me your age?
The parents must have felt so awful once they realized that they had essentially put their daughter in rehab which surrounded her with unsavory (putting it VERY lightly) people, which led to her death.
Yes what a gross overreaction, just for a harmless spliff. Probably why they tried to shift guilt from their god fearing minds onto a handful of musicians
@@pommunist I agree it was an overreaction, but you have to remember that this was nearly 30 years ago. Weed was still seen as a “hard” drug to an extent.
The internet was only just introduced and wasn’t viable to do research like it is today, so if you didn’t grow up around it or know anyone who did it, you might as well be doing cocaine or heroin.
They really cared about their daughter, and we all know teenagers are stubborn as all hell. Odds are they feared her ending up like the folks from “Reefer Madness” and overreacted due to the time period.
This is obviously 100% speculation, and my purpose of this rant was mainly to remind people that those were different times and sending their child to rehab would have been the go to answer for their situation.
I was 13 when I first tried weed and 16 when it became a habit. We now know that smoking it habitually at such a young age has negative consequences on a developing brain.
@@nealkelly9757 no
You would be amazed at a parents ability to find no fault in their actions.
Well said! I was thinking the same thing
I grew up on heavy metal love heavy metal and still do. I've never felt like hurting or killing anybody when listening to heavy metal music. Some people are just evil and they gotta find someone to blame
EXACTLY
No, there are some people susceptible to bad influence.
It’s the opposite for me, I love rock music, and when I hear metal it makes me so angry inside and irritated , could honestly punch a wall, can’t even listen to 5 mins of it, there’s a reason folk get hurt in moshpits with idiots all running round punching people, acting like toddlers having tantrums, if it didn’t have that effect on people thered be no need for a mosh pit
@@chelleyd4020 You either need medication for anger problems, or you're profoundly full of shit.
Glad someone else is covering this story!! It deserves far more attention
I love that Cali parol board decided he's not old and frail enough to be released!LOVED it!🤘
GREAT Video, and thank you for explaining the satanic panic nonsense clearly and objectively.....As a kid who grew up in a Christian household (and *Gasp* Played a simple form of D&D) I appreciate the material and that it is PEOPLE who commit acts which has always been the focus of this channel...and calling out rightly when people use Faith/Religion as a cover.
Thank you for your work...
@ThisisMONSTERS I'm completely blown away finding out you're into punk. As a 80-90's punk myself it's always rad to see what happens when punks branch out into other things. Stay gold!! 🤘✌
Yeah, he’s mentioned being in a punk band when he was younger, and he’s worn a Propagandhi shirt in some of his videos.
Dude, you need to check out his other channel Sinister. He has a punk introspective video and another more recent about that punk festival in 2006 where a riot broke out after a bunch of Neo-N@zi skinheads and anti-racist skinheads got in a brawl.
(Literally just watched that second vid and thought of you!) 🤘
[edited to correct my introspective/retrospective mix up]
This channel and THAT CHAPTER r the best there is!! Keep doing what u do man!! We will b here trying 2 patiently wait til the next episode!! Love how well done every episode is! Even of I have heard the story b4 I learn more about it thru u!!! Loving it!😊
I appreciate that!
Hope wherever u r now makes ur family smile but hope internet service is good cause I always worry when it's time for a new episode!!! Wishing u and ur family all the happiness in the world!!
True crime recaps are good too. Yes I also love that chapter, and monsters.
I'm a hippy folk music girl but i'm going to subscribe because it was super interesting to learn about different music genres. Fair play. Great episode
Oooh I love the guest speaker!! Great episode, thank you Jiles!!
Listened to, and loved SLAYER for the vast, overwhelming majority of my life!! Seen them in concert every time they came to Atlanta since I was 13, right up until 2011. R.I.P. Jeff Hanneman!
Despite that fact, I never tried to sacrifice a virgin.....
Besides, you'd be hard-pressed to find a virgin at, or anywhere near, a Thrash Metal concert!!
Right on time whilst this insomnia ravages my mind , Happy New Year btw Jiles & to all those here eagerly pushing play🥳🍾🥂💁🏿♀️💯
Insomnia sucks, I’m right there with you. Hope things are better now. 🥂😊
This was so well done….glad you covered this case!
Huge respect for giving HawkNLoad a well deserved shout out! The dude is amazing! And thank you for another excellent release.
3:00 😮, I was not expecting that. He looks like the baby of the group. I was thinking Jacob would be the leader.
Thank you so much for everything you put into your videos.
Whats funny and ironic is that the lead singer from Slayer is actually a devout Catholic and one of the nicest guys youll ever meet.
@@heavymetalredneck7973 I got to meet Tom back around 93 or so. He was just like "hey nice to meet you! Love the shirt!" That type of stuff. I wasn't expecting him to be a dick but I wasn't expecting such a sunny ball of sunshine either. And yeah, Corpsegrinder is a real sweet guy. One of the most wholesome people I've ever seen 🤣
Yeah right
Don't be deceived. They are satanic. Always have been.
There’s a local record store here in Downey and the owner (a super nice guy named Rick who is the lead guitarist of Sadistic Intent) went to high school with Tom and has a signed copy of their first vinyl. He says Tom is one of the sweetest and realest people you’ll ever meet and a ride or die kind of guy.
I love how every video closes with describing how the perp is a monster.
“Violent people seek violent media” 💯
Idk, I watch a ton of horror movies and these true crime things and I'm not a violent person....
Shut up,karen.
Ok,karen.
Can someone please explain to me how this channel hasn't reached at least 1000000 subscribers like a year ago?????? Love the content and look forward to every video bro!! Your a fucking genius
I've been a Sub to this channel for many years & today I just realized that I'm mysteriously not subbed any longer. I Subbed again, but this YT bs happens too often in my opinion.
Thank you for showing slayer the respect they deserve. I grew up with this music and it got me through a lot of stuff. And I definitely remember the Satanic panic we had to hide the fact that we played dungeons and dragons. We had to tell even other kids that were we were meeting for other reasons we couldn’t tell anybody. It was because people thought we were worshiping the devil if we played dungeons and dragons. Oh it was awful so glad that Satanic panic is over.
This is absolutely the saddest to hear of a young lady being killed because she trusted the three guys she thought were her friends.
I feel very these three no matter if the have changed should not be released. The Haynes sexual acts they did to her were terrible but then they continued many time after. There are no words to understand what kind of person does that.
My sincere condolences to her family especially her mother and her father. I hope but doubt that one day they will be able to move one, I know I would not.
Just a note on the lawsuit filed by the family against Slayer - this was in 1990 so it was around the same time as the Judas Priest lawsuit, which was dismissed. As the Slayer lawsuit was also dismissed I just wonder if either decision had an influence on the other, despite the legal ramifications of First Amendment protections? Just a thought.
Fantastic episode. Took me back to my Metal soaked teen years and reminded me of the case of Ricky Kasso who also killed a 'friend' in the name of 'Satan'. The book 'Say You Love Satan' chronicles the entire sordid story and aftermath. Both stories tell of very tragic and unnecessary deaths.
The murder that led to the lawsuit against Slayer actually took place in 1995, not 1990.
Metal/punk music head here. Nicest most accepting people I've ever met.
Jiles: Thanks for that heavy metal music lesson; I didn't know Slayer had been around since my birth.. It's unfortunate, imo, that they choose darker themes but it makes sense regarding shock value. However, as you say, most metal bands didn't include practicing what they were 'preaching' per se.
My leanings at that time had more to do with discovereing punk which lead down rabbit holes of relatable music. Not as vast as your experiences, I'm sure.
Surprised nobody’s mentioned the movie “Jennifer’s Body” yet. This horrific case reminds me of part of the plot of that movie. Victimized for no reason other than the selfish gain of another. So sad. I Hope her family finds/has found peace.
i’m heavy metal to my CORE .. and i’ve never worshipped Satan … nor wanted to sacrifice anyone. 😩
@@Mike_HuntizWetAnd go to live shows and find the most sweet and nicest people who are all in on the act
@@Mike_HuntizWet Satanism is generally not about Satan anyway. It's really quite humanist, valuing people for who they are.
@@phillyphil201 Bollocks
@@louieberg2942 I've read a lot about alternative religions (I was raised Catholic so....) and you're right - the majority of Satanists are more into sex rituals. Aleister Crowley claimed that he had practiced ritual human sacrifice but there's nothing to prove that it ever actually happened so it was probably just a boast. He wasn't exactly a credible source. There's some speculation that early Druidic and Roman religious cults practiced human sacrifice and the Vikings certainly did but the people they sacrificed - either for their wealthy dead or to their gods - were willing volunteers. Making a sacrifice to Satan to make your metal band famous is just daft. Those boys should have tried praying for some talent instead.
@@Lady1974M praying for talent is asking for something deeply selfish from a god. There are people dying, asking god for the ability to be talented so they can make money and indulge in whatever they wanted is inherently evil. A better thing would be to practice and earn a career as opposed to praying that a being somewhere in the sky will just hand it to them because they asked. That is both lazy and entitled. Praying doesn't do anything, if that was the case everyone who ever screamed "please God no" when being killed or sexually assaulted would have divine intervention. That doesn't happen. So praying for talent is a presumptuous thought. Praying will do as much as hoping will. I'm a career musician, I was considered for a Grammy when I was a teenager, I've produced several albums, done audio for HBO, MGM, and done ads for Kia motors. No one I've ever worked with got anything from prayer. They got it from working hard and sacrificing their spare time to work. That's reality. Oh I was also raised Catholic. I can't believe people still actually believe in it. Harry Potter is just as believable.
I simply cannot get over how simply amazing this channel is.. Been a few days since i came across it and its like every video is just better than the previous one..
The commentary is superb, even some humor every now and again.. Even a video featuring a killer from my country South Africa..
Surprised the channel doesn't have a few million subscribers, people simply dont know what they missing out on..
But im sure with all the hardwork thats put into every video and time invested the million + subscribers will be coming soon soon!!!
Love the series. Keep it up, you’re doing really well! Happy new year.
To the narrator, punk and hardcore were so great when I was young in the 80s. Hope you got to experience it then too. I'm 53 now and it's still my favorite genre. Great job you do as a narrator. Your voice is easy to listen to and you in no way are annoying. Keep up the great work!
I did. I toured with punk bands as a bass player and a roadie in my late teens and it was one of the best experiences of my life.
Keep up the good work!
Well if that isn't perfect timing, love that these release right as I'm going to bed
"You have to already want to commit evil if able to let a song convince you to commit murder!"
Most definitely
Love you Jiles I am pretty easily bored not focused on most youtube videos in your realm topic. But you always captivate me. I want to follow the story thank you.
Also i got tickets to Iron Maiden for xmas. So excited about it. Plus its in Vegas. I live in Oregon but planning to see thrm at home too.
What is weird is i punk fan too. But i always liked iron maiden.
But Punk is my first love.
Oh thank God, monsters. I really needed u tonite. Thanks a million sincerely ur number one biggest fan n loyal subscriber n proud member of the monsters family~joany sohayda hoquiam, Washington. Aka the Pacific Northwest. Love u. N thanks for being there for me!!
Oh nice. I grew up in Bremerton. Did a bunch of construction work in Ocean Shores many years ago. I'll be back in the PNW this spring to visit my family.
I'm a firm believer there ain't nothing better than ocean shores on the 4th of July!!
Content like this makes me think a lot about how school kids and teens are brought together for 8 hours a day with such a random assortment of people and there hasn't been time yet to see violent tendencies or psychopathy manifested. It's crazy to think about how much can go wrong for us in our lives if we get involved with certain people as they grow into their destructive issues all in a storm of hormones and total inability to regulate emotions.
If it weren't for Royce's confession, this case would not be solved. I think he deserves credit for that.
I remember hearing slayer for the first time as a kid in 88. It just blew me away that something could sound so good and be so fast.
Your final comments really summed it up. The music did not make these kids commit murder. I do feel for Elise's parents. It was a brutal crime and as a parent, I can see wanting to have an answer or do something to bring justice for their daughter. HawkNload vwas great! Not a death metal fan but I am subscribing as I learned a lot about metal from him.
So it had no effect on his behaviour yet it causes the behaviour seen in moshpits all over, why the moshpit of it doesn’t help people release steam
love the collab! Always love when youtubers mash up in their areas of expertise.
Another amazing video❤ thanks for all the time & amazing work put into your videos. I love your channel!! I’ll be listening while trying to sleep
Bon Matin, my fellow Louisianan!
@@julieloucalcote1368 yess! Lol how are you? Good to see you also!
@@CajunHoneybun I can’t complain! Getting ready for another day of teaching middle school math! How ‘bout you?
I just put on my slayer hoodie and now video about this case shows up, odd coincidence. This is such a sad case. I wish all good to people her death touched and that shes in a good place now. Great work once again, one of the best true crime channels ive ever came across.
It’s not a coincidence. Slayer knows all.
@@thisisMONSTERS haha yes, theyre something else.
Absolutely horrific!
I’ve been a metalhead all of my life, which also meant I was perpetually misunderstood by those who didn’t “get” it. I never understood how they tried to blame bands the way they did back in the day either. By doing that, it almost removes the responsibility from the person committing the crimes 👉🏻 and transfers blame to an innocent third party scapegoat. How is that justice? Why are we not blaming those who did the crime? It never made sense!
Like back in 10th grade a particular Megadeth shirt I wore - I was told would make someone “want” to kill themselves, and I would be the one to blame for it if they did 👉🏻 so take it off! I ended up getting my punishment for that shirt (being told to initially take it off) all the way up to *3 days out of school detention* which was INSANE at the time. They changed the dress code too, because of that day with me at that school! NO SKULLS 😂, which I never listen! I refused to change, refused to apologize, and finally told the principal if someone was going to kill themselves, they were going to do it despite my shirt. He was lived! I was told that day I was going to hell, and I “deserved” it. Over a Megadeth shirt. People took that stuff waaaaaaaaaaay too seriously back then and it was ridiculous! I don’t miss those late Regan era witch-hunts, by the ever so loving Christians! What a joke!
Btw, I was an honor student, and I really cared about school until that day. From that point on I was forever told I was trash (by certain teachers!), and weirdly judged, and made to feel like I was something terrible, all for my taste in MUSIC. I really don’t miss those days and I am proud that I stood up for myself, even if I got 3 days out of school over it! I’ve gone onto be a successful adult, successful single parent, and life has been really good for me. I STILL LISTEN TO METAL! I’m so glad I proved everyone one of those ugly people wrong 👍🏻! It feels really good to run into them and watch them eat their words 😂! And good episode btw! Sorry for my weird rant!
Zactly!
Love your stories and you tell it perfectly!
metal ppl are absolutely the nicest angels on earth-a very nice community
Loved the info and perspective, and the guest. One of your best!
Excellent contribution from Hawn n Load 🤘👏 Thanks again for the excellent content Giles
Really like the collab and the style you did it in. Bringing in a subject matter expect to give us a metal lesson is awesome
The fear and pain Elyse must have experienced...😢
Love the chain in the explanation insert. Tongue in cheek. Excellent!
7:50, love your take on musics influence on people committing murders
Wow
Thank you, Heavy Metal Expert Man 🤘🏼😊
Wow I have never heard of this case. Impressive research as usual. These cases are important to be aware of.
Thank you for not covering the incredibly gruesome details of this poor girl such a disturbing story
My dad is a minister and in the late 80s early 90s when Slayer was big he truly hated any band that anything to do with Satan.
My friend Jerome used to come over with the Slayer album with the pentagram on the left corner and he set it on our mantle every time my dad left the room to tease me cuz he knew I would get my ass kicked if my dad saw it
Good Morning, thanks for all your hard work and dedication, appreciate you. Bout to get comfy. Have a happy weekend
I sincerely hope you hit a million this year ❤ you deserve it, always putting out astounding work❤❤
Great episode that poor girl though. In our town we got had a guy that hung himself because of a Judas Priest song and Judas Priest was on trial we got free concerts every single night the case went on for two weeks they determine that that it was a sound effect in recording the song at the young man heard before he hung himself such sad stories about heavy metal music crime so so sad considering that some of these bands are so tame compared to some of the music we listen to dating all the way back to the 60s that were very heavy metal overseas
Thank you Jiles & guest
Blaming media, books, music, is nothing short of avoiding responsibility/ownership of one's deeds.
Let's please not forget that plenty of people who aren't actively violent choose to consume some media that is -- in my mind this applies both to the average fan of Slayer over the years and me, streaming & engaging with several true crime channels!
I'm sad that Elyse's parents chose censorship & blaming/ suing the band Slayer as a course of action as if it was appropriate & worthwhile; it just seems to me as if a number of other responses would have been more respectable, constructive, etc. I'm sorry for their tragedy all the same.
Thanks for sharing the stories in your style, Jiles.
Why is parole even a consideration for any of them? It doesn't matter if 'he's turned his life around."....their victim has no life to turn around because these three beast tortured and killed her,and then did the unmentionable to her for MONTHS afterward. They should be doing time in the state's worst prison.
Another good video Jiles.
Always on time with it.❤
If the Slayer lawsuit would've worked, imagine what would of happened to rap! They'd all of been sued into poverty
I believe that if the parents won the lawsuit, they would work on getting rap music banned next, and after that, punk would not be looking too promising.
I would pay to see their interrogations 😮
God every time a parent sues something entirely unrelated to their child's murder I can't help but roll my eyes. Like I know obviously it's an incredibly traumatic experience and it's easy to place blame, but how anybody can genuinely believe that music is such a corrupting influence that it drives people to murder is and always will be laughable and little more to me.
Like the lady at the zoo who sued the zoo after she held her baby over a railing and accidentally dropped him into the African dog enclosure. Wild
Jiles, thank you for your dedication! + critical research required to honour the victimized. Happy 2024 to all🌏❤.
Another excellent presentation, Jiles! ❤❤❤❤❤
6:12 - That was a great conclusion of the guest and the transition was dope!
We need more HawKNLoad. This was incredibly interesting.
Thanks for the Metal history! ❤
Anyone that doesn't believe/understand that the "devil" & "satanic" thoughts and/or acts are not true and very real better learn quickly. Theres coming a time very soon that all will see- choose God and nothing to fear ❤🙏🏻
God is not real.
I hate people that do this shit…..it’s hard enough to get through life and find fulfillment and the fact there are people so messed up they do this to someone that trusts them as friends….someone who had done nothing wrong and they took everything from her….fuck them
Best intro ever in your tenure on UA-cam. Thanks man
Tell me more about the heavy metal 411 guy. does he have a podcast? I'm intrigued and I like his style, presentation, and format.
Ty for the upload Jiles. Love ya and miss ya fellow monsters. 😉🤘
Also, Gwar. Trollfest.
I have links to his UA-cam channel and Instagram in the video description.
The link to his YT is a broken link, just as a heads-up.@@thisisMONSTERS
I fixed it a while ago.
All three would have been released already here in the UK. The powers that be really need to consider that because this was next level heinous and the poor victim's family already got their life no parole sentences.
In Norway, the maximum is 21 years. What a joke. Varg Vikernes was releases after less than 10 years and didn't even serve 21.
"There are definitely not any Satanic cults performing terrible rituals. There are, however, a whole bunch of individuals doing it." Whew, that's a relief. Almost thought it was a problem.
The same😢 As a broken teen, I got into my fair share of metal in the early 90s when I was like 12, through my friends. But even as broken as I was, I was never gonna cross that line. Now, looking back, those were my best years, with cool friends and constant search for new cd and reading lyrics on the cover and head banging lol skateboarding, playing handball…. They were my family❤ Hard to believe 30 years passed🤯
Why is Lieutenant Dan talking like a WWE Superstar while discussing Slayer?
Love how he described Slayer that was nice addition to it already greatness in delivery
Really appreciated the heavy metal lesson. Thank you Sirs! 😊
Narrative is on point. Great job. 👍🏼
I have listened to all kinds of metal when I was a teenager. Never missed Headbanger’s Ball, new metal mags or major band releases. Only got to know other kids who were just into loud and fast music, nothing else. However I never got to know metal kids that looked so purely evil as that trio. They could have probably listened to polka and would still have killed someone.
A lack of intelligence and ability to rationalise can make any fool think they're clever
As a Bush era kid I remember the nightly news having frequent evangelical talking heads come on and freak out over various flavors of metal.
And I am of the exact same thought as Jiles. I grew up a latchkey kid of a troubled single mom and got very into punk. Not once did anything aggressive or violent sung by the bands I liked make me want to do actual violence.
For some reason when I read this I was thinking you meant Bush the band instead of Bush the president.
Though coincidentally still the same era.
Absolutely disgusting, horrendous, evil... I could go on for hours with writing words of disgust...
I'm from the area where this happened and am the same age as them. My best friends grand parents had bought this second plot of land that was overgrown. His grandpa paid us 50$ each to go there every Saturday for a few hours and work on clearing it out. About a quarter mile down the road was the field where her body was buried. After she was found it creeped me out knowing that every Saturday for six weeks we were driving past her body and didn't even know it. Being apart of the metal community at the time I can tell that the "Satanic Panic" was real. There was this older guy I knew who owned a New Age/Occult/Wiccan shop that he had to shut down because people assumed the shop was linked to satanic worship and were protesting it.
Their eyes tell a story.
If Joseph Jacob and Royce needed a virgin, all they had to do was look in the mirror.
Excellent take on heavy metal and how it doesn't really go with the devil crap or violence, thank you.