I have really mixed feelings about the Xiaomi 12S Ultra. On one side, that 1" Sony IMX989 and cooperation with Leica seem really promising. I like the Leica filter for food photos. But on the other side, it seems to deliver not that much, it even falls short for night photos. I’m not sure if it’s better than the Xiaomi 11 Ultra regarding the camera performance.
You're totally wrong this phone is a solid choice even thought it's released since few days unlike other flagships like iphone and samsung and p50 pro and vivo x80 pro they received a lot of updates that fixed and improved their camera while 12 s ultra is a new phone after a few updates it will destroy all of them
I totally agree with sami, we aren’t talking what “ could be” we don’t know if it’s getting updates for the camera we are talking about how it is now out of the box and the ultra 11 is pretty much better I think
Great comparison. Looks like the 12s Ultra needs more software optimisation for the camera in some aspects like night photos but to me the video performance seems well improved (excluding selfie which was downgraded??? ). This shows that the software development+improvement currently isn't able to keep up with the hardware improvements for the phone cameras
It seems smartphone camera reach its peak unless they would improve the software to fully mimic the perfect same effect of large camera lenses because the camera hardware sensor on smartphone maybe can't improve anymore due to its physical limitations like pixel can take great photos with old and much weaker sensor but the software can improve the results,great comparison by the way.
maybe Xiaomi will downgrade the quality of mi 11 ultra in future update to make 12 ultra look better... you can expect anything from commercial companies.
Complete and fun comparison... congratulations!!! I found the Mi11u better in general, both in HDR and in the details and even in the colors except for the representation of the night sky, but the speed of the 12s is surprising and should make a lot of difference in photos with movement, but unfortunately this did not appear in the comparison. At times the Mi 12s Ultra reminded me of the Galaxy S22u, due to its tendency to add a certain magenta tone to the photos and exaggerate the contrast a little bit compared to previous generations. I say this because I have the S21 Ultra and in terms of camera, it was ahead of the S22 Ultra, according to comparisons between the two that I saw on various channels, as well as the photo samples on specialized sites... I would even like to express my anger with the result of the flagships launched so far in terms of camera, especially with Samsung, because as I said, I have an S21 Ultra, and I think it was the best in terms of photography last year, and after to see dozens of comparisons this year, I decided to stick to comparing it with the S22 Ultra itself, and such was my disappointment to be able to prove the DOWNGRADE (the CAPADA) that Samsung made in the S22 camera in several aspects, mainly in terms of details of the photos, side blurs and HDR, and because of that I took advantage of my channel to leave a comparison showing the INFERIORITY of the Ultra, S22 in relation to the S21, with strong EVIDENCE... I would very much like to know your opinion, my friend, and the from those who are most interested by stopping by and giving their opinion if they agree with what I show in the photos or if they have a different opinion. The reduction was general from the manufacturers in their flags, and with that Samsung also made me keep quiet waiting for the S23 Ultra. Finally, I don't know if it's asking too much and if you would be able to do that... an updated comparison of the S22 Ultra with the S21 Ultra in terms of photography mainly... I believe it would be very successful if you with both devices could manage check the things I showed there on my channel. A big hug and congratulations again!
@@onuohafamily Not really... the sensors of the 2 zoom cameras are physically smaller... the lenses are more compressed because of the Spen and the slightly thinner thickness towards the top of the lens... other than that it's a software issue. .. which is more aggressive in contrast making the HDR compromised in several scenarios and the magenta tone of the face and sky in some scenarios, in short, several points that are not limited in the S21u are in the S22u, understand? If you're interested, watch the videos I put on my channel and then check out the official sources I quote there. Hug!
Olá, acredito e de acordo com seu canal que você é do Brasil. Não troco frequentemente (tenho um xiaomi 8 lite) e gostaria de dar um upgrade que iria me dar mais anos de experiência com o celular. Estava em dúvida entre google pixel 7 pro vs xiaomi 12s ultra vs samsung s22. Em termos eu exclui o da google pot muitos e muitos relatos por conta de aquecimento, ficando entre o s22 e o 12s, qual seria sua escolha entre esses dois? Sei que um ganha do outro nos aspectos mas no geral, quem você pegaria ?
the 12S Ultra seems to me much more consistent in white balance and highlights than its big brother that I own by the way. All the camera software part will be handled by Leica and it is necessarily reassuring for the future of this little gem. You will have to try the different Leica modes for night photos and see the difference. A fresh and pleasing review like your style. Cheer
Hi, Sami.Could you compare Xiaomi 12S Ultra and Honor magic4 Utilmate in extreme dark light both in outdoor and indoor 4K 30 fps Video.Wondering big sensor difference. Thank you!
I believe the 12S Ultra will be better than 11 Ultra due to new Camera censor & CPU. But regarding the color correctness, and color pallet, I think the 11 Ultra already do a great job. The picture quality different from color perspective is not very much different. Yes, it's noticeable when you compare the same picture side by side, but I feel it's not much different. And BTW, THANK YOU for doing this video.
Thanks for the comparison. In my opinion it could be the 12S (and also the 11ultra) is being held back by the camera software (not fully optimized to use the full capability of the hardware). Does xiaomi phone camera app have full manual mode and also RAW? (i have no experience with miui) I think using full manual control to lock exposure for example, might bring out the true capability of the sensors /i get it that normal joe and jane dont use full manual, but for above average/hobbyist shooter if the sensor can be utilized to its full capability in manual mode controls, that mean at least for ultra light travels, we can leave home our semi-pro cameras
Seems as expected. So mostly 12s Ultra is design cosmetic upgrade with better thermals and the gap between main cameras is very very small. Other tests claims that already to this one. At first glance I even wondered that 11u has entirely covered camera glass with hydrogel, but seems there is cutouts for that, ok then :) Coating actually seems non significant as was shown in marketing :)
As a user of Xiaomi EU Mi11 Ultra with 512Gb it is a hard pass for me. That system is so optimized battery wise I just cannot imagine a better phone or camera, for that matter.
I hope we will see in future video a detail camera comparison of Xiaomi 12S Ultra vs Mi 11 Ultra. Main camera, UW, Tele, front selfie camera, daytime, indoor, night mode etc. With lots samples!!!
@@blaxican_ my only problem is I have this crazy exposure ranges when the background changes when recording video. Exposure change is wayyyyyyy too drastic and not subtle. Otherwise I love the 11 ultra.
Exacly me too i get i have before lots good phones but bro that one 11ultra is killer camera is very good diplay is Amazing Speakers is fantastic clear and loud people say better than 12s ultra speakers 😀
The photos and videos samples show that this is not a 11u killer to begin with. There will be updates, but 12 pro never got much better. However, there are two things that you can't really see in this video. If you take photos of people close to the camera the one inch optical bokeh is amazing on the 12s and 11u will also lose in a shutter speed test.
While this 12s ultra is an impressive camera system. For me, it won't beat the S22ultra in terms of color science. The consistency between all lenses has always been xiaomi weakness. I could never understand why they keep holding back on the front camera. S22ultra has the best front facing camera so far. And let's not forget updates, the consistency. If xiaomi wants to compete with the Samsung they need to improve on those aspects.
@@SamiLuo They don't care ... They only care about bringing out many new models. They also are terrible at bringing out their models worldwide, some models do and some don't. Usually the ones you want dont make it global or they will have botched specs.
seems like other than the infamous snapdragon 888, the 11 ultra seems to be the better phone overall, especially with the steep discount. i personally found those leica filters mostly good for marketing purposes. not the kind of change i hoped to see in xiaomi, but then that's one way to go premium with better profit margins i guess.
The camera is way better than the mi11 ultra , dynamic range , color profile and shutter speed , The uprade also are in haptic feedback , sound , battery and cpu . Also the display i think is more capable since u can choose also 90hz refresh rate , and lets talk about how hot the mi11 ultra get? unusable some time
There are NO guarantees .... Xiaomi is NOT great with updates. Look at the 11 ultra and the options for that back display that would come with an update, have we seen that after 1 year ??
you guys are awesome!!! Thanks for the great comparison! ❤👍👍👍Or maybe well, fuck it 12s ultra? Maybe it's better to buy the good old 11 ultra? 🙂🙂🙂 wow, what about the fucking proximity sensor ??
Impress by 11 ultra here....on the new one, 12s ultra it having this jittery when he took a video, like something that midrange phone usually have...thats strange
These kind of comparisons are getting rediculous, stupid and just downright dumb...makes no sense at all since the available light conditions and the slightest change in the way the camera/phone is held, can make a huge difference within milli seconds. And also, I don't understand most of what these 2 wanna-be comedians are saying, I mean is it even English...???.
You can't even spell "Ridiculous" right, lol... what you are saying are just representing yourself, and don't tell others they shouldn't like this video, you pathetic little fuck
Still an early bird I guess. Software in a diapers. But Xiaomi really needs to step up with software.maybe some dedicated cam chip like Vivo did. for me here in this comparison 11ultra won. How is 8+g1 chip?overheating is better handled then on 8g1??imo 8gen1 phones are a waste.
I also use mi 11 ultra.. Honestly mi 11 ultra is better than mi 12 ultra....one of my friend is using mi 12 ultra i compare it..my mi 11 ultra was far better and even mi 12 ultra battery life is not good or else i would have bought it... Im a big fan of xiaomi
I have really mixed feelings about the Xiaomi 12S Ultra. On one side, that 1" Sony IMX989 and cooperation with Leica seem really promising. I like the Leica filter for food photos. But on the other side, it seems to deliver not that much, it even falls short for night photos. I’m not sure if it’s better than the Xiaomi 11 Ultra regarding the camera performance.
You're totally wrong this phone is a solid choice even thought it's released since few days unlike other flagships like iphone and samsung and p50 pro and vivo x80 pro they received a lot of updates that fixed and improved their camera while 12 s ultra is a new phone after a few updates it will destroy all of them
@@dalileddineslimani6399 lets see, the video is based on what i got now..
I totally agree with sami, we aren’t talking what “ could be” we don’t know if it’s getting updates for the camera we are talking about how it is now out of the box and the ultra 11 is pretty much better I think
yes i think that with some updates will stay better 👍
@@SamiLuo the xiaomi 12 ultra is come with Google service?
Great comparison. Looks like the 12s Ultra needs more software optimisation for the camera in some aspects like night photos but to me the video performance seems well improved (excluding selfie which was downgraded??? ). This shows that the software development+improvement currently isn't able to keep up with the hardware improvements for the phone cameras
It seems smartphone camera reach its peak unless they would improve the software to fully mimic the perfect same effect of large camera lenses because the camera hardware sensor on smartphone maybe can't improve anymore due to its physical limitations like pixel can take great photos with old and much weaker sensor but the software can improve the results,great comparison by the way.
I totally agree with you here
You're wrong. Camera can improve if photodiodes will be bigger, not those gimmicky 0.8
maybe Xiaomi will downgrade the quality of mi 11 ultra in future update to make 12 ultra look better... you can expect anything from commercial companies.
lol
I’ll be avoiding that one as long as I can 😂😂😂
Complete and fun comparison... congratulations!!!
I found the Mi11u better in general, both in HDR and in the details and even in the colors except for the representation of the night sky, but the speed of the 12s is surprising and should make a lot of difference in photos with movement, but unfortunately this did not appear in the comparison.
At times the Mi 12s Ultra reminded me of the Galaxy S22u, due to its tendency to add a certain magenta tone to the photos and exaggerate the contrast a little bit compared to previous generations.
I say this because I have the S21 Ultra and in terms of camera, it was ahead of the S22 Ultra, according to comparisons between the two that I saw on various channels, as well as the photo samples on specialized sites...
I would even like to express my anger with the result of the flagships launched so far in terms of camera, especially with Samsung, because as I said, I have an S21 Ultra, and I think it was the best in terms of photography last year, and after to see dozens of comparisons this year, I decided to stick to comparing it with the S22 Ultra itself, and such was my disappointment to be able to prove the DOWNGRADE (the CAPADA) that Samsung made in the S22 camera in several aspects, mainly in terms of details of the photos, side blurs and HDR, and because of that I took advantage of my channel to leave a comparison showing the INFERIORITY of the Ultra, S22 in relation to the S21, with strong EVIDENCE... I would very much like to know your opinion, my friend, and the from those who are most interested by stopping by and giving their opinion if they agree with what I show in the photos or if they have a different opinion.
The reduction was general from the manufacturers in their flags, and with that Samsung also made me keep quiet waiting for the S23 Ultra.
Finally, I don't know if it's asking too much and if you would be able to do that... an updated comparison of the S22 Ultra with the S21 Ultra in terms of photography mainly... I believe it would be very successful if you with both devices could manage check the things I showed there on my channel.
A big hug and congratulations again!
I think the s21 and 22 have basically same cameras probably down to the software processing
@@onuohafamily Not really... the sensors of the 2 zoom cameras are physically smaller... the lenses are more compressed because of the Spen and the slightly thinner thickness towards the top of the lens... other than that it's a software issue. .. which is more aggressive in contrast making the HDR compromised in several scenarios and the magenta tone of the face and sky in some scenarios, in short, several points that are not limited in the S21u are in the S22u, understand?
If you're interested, watch the videos I put on my channel and then check out the official sources I quote there.
Hug!
Olá, acredito e de acordo com seu canal que você é do Brasil. Não troco frequentemente (tenho um xiaomi 8 lite) e gostaria de dar um upgrade que iria me dar mais anos de experiência com o celular. Estava em dúvida entre google pixel 7 pro vs xiaomi 12s ultra vs samsung s22. Em termos eu exclui o da google pot muitos e muitos relatos por conta de aquecimento, ficando entre o s22 e o 12s, qual seria sua escolha entre esses dois? Sei que um ganha do outro nos aspectos mas no geral, quem você pegaria ?
@@Donatello_h s22 sem dúvida... mas esperaria mais 1 ou 2 meses pra ver s23 como vai ser
the 12S Ultra seems to me much more consistent in white balance and highlights than its big brother that I own by the way. All the camera software part will be handled by Leica and it is necessarily reassuring for the future of this little gem. You will have to try the different Leica modes for night photos and see the difference. A fresh and pleasing review like your style. Cheer
thanks
11 ultra is the win for me!!!!!in general is the best in all parts of video and photo! thank for the video!
Great comparison. So happy to help out this video project.
Tom good job
Hi, Sami.Could you compare Xiaomi
12S Ultra and Honor magic4
Utilmate in extreme dark light
both in outdoor and indoor 4K 30
fps Video.Wondering big sensor
difference. Thank you!
I believe the 12S Ultra will be better than 11 Ultra due to new Camera censor & CPU.
But regarding the color correctness, and color pallet, I think the 11 Ultra already do a great job. The picture quality different from color perspective is not very much different. Yes, it's noticeable when you compare the same picture side by side, but I feel it's not much different.
And BTW,
THANK YOU for doing this video.
Fantastic Review .... well done
Glad you liked it
where can i buy the 11 archer or the 12 archer.
Good and fun review :D greetings from Algeria
Thanks for the comparison.
In my opinion it could be the 12S (and also the 11ultra) is being held back by the camera software (not fully optimized to use the full capability of the hardware).
Does xiaomi phone camera app have full manual mode and also RAW? (i have no experience with miui)
I think using full manual control to lock exposure for example, might bring out the true capability of the sensors
/i get it that normal joe and jane dont use full manual, but for above average/hobbyist shooter if the sensor can be utilized to its full capability in manual mode controls, that mean at least for ultra light travels, we can leave home our semi-pro cameras
Nice comparison 👌🏻
Glad you liked it!
Hola saludos desde Colombia. Que gran videos me quedo con el mi 11 ultra sugerencias de donde podría comprar el Xiaomi mi 11 ultra gracias
great comparation, Xiaomi 12S Ultra its more beautiful, but the camera evolution it's not that better. But i like the 12s Ultra design
nice video👏
Xiaomi 12s ultra has a night mode to video?
Hello sami,can u compare with oneplus too!
hmmm, i dont have oneplus phone though
Seems as expected. So mostly 12s Ultra is design cosmetic upgrade with better thermals and the gap between main cameras is very very small. Other tests claims that already to this one.
At first glance I even wondered that 11u has entirely covered camera glass with hydrogel, but seems there is cutouts for that, ok then :) Coating actually seems non significant as was shown in marketing :)
thanks bros.....
As a user of Xiaomi EU Mi11 Ultra with 512Gb it is a hard pass for me. That system is so optimized battery wise I just cannot imagine a better phone or camera, for that matter.
Superb review
Thank you! Cheers!
How many years of android updates does Xiaomi's ultra series offer??? Like mi 10 ultra on which android is it running now?
3 years of android and 5 years of android security updates
I hope we will see in future video a detail camera comparison of Xiaomi 12S Ultra vs Mi 11 Ultra. Main camera, UW, Tele, front selfie camera, daytime, indoor, night mode etc. With lots samples!!!
Eagerly waiting for this tech launch in India.. anyone have Idea when it will launch in India..?
Mi 11 ultra 😜👌🏼🔥🔥 bigger battery, bigger screen, selfie screen on back💯🏆also half the price of 12 on AliExpress 🤣
Thats right mate, the only issue is the thermal control though
@@SamiLuo my only problem is the screen auto dims even when auto brightness is off
@@blaxican_ my only problem is I have this crazy exposure ranges when the background changes when recording video. Exposure change is wayyyyyyy too drastic and not subtle. Otherwise I love the 11 ultra.
@@SamiLuo does it still heats a lot? Because I'm planning to buy mi11u this month.
@@jebiboy mines doesn't get hot
I just got a mi 11 ultra. Im very happy to see its camera is too close to mi 12 ultra
Exacly me too i get i have before lots good phones but bro that one 11ultra is killer camera is very good diplay is Amazing Speakers is fantastic clear and loud people say better than 12s ultra speakers 😀
I want to buy one who is better
The Xiaomi mi 11 ultra is an amazing phone ..I love mine
Leica Vibrant is the mode if you want to compared with others phone.Authentic is focus leica colour style scarified HDR,detail and exposure
The photos and videos samples show that this is not a 11u killer to begin with. There will be updates, but 12 pro never got much better. However, there are two things that you can't really see in this video. If you take photos of people close to the camera the one inch optical bokeh is amazing on the 12s and 11u will also lose in a shutter speed test.
This what we want 👌🏼😜👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Real comparison
While this 12s ultra is an impressive camera system. For me, it won't beat the S22ultra in terms of color science. The consistency between all lenses has always been xiaomi weakness. I could never understand why they keep holding back on the front camera. S22ultra has the best front facing camera so far. And let's not forget updates, the consistency. If xiaomi wants to compete with the Samsung they need to improve on those aspects.
Hope xiaomi sees this!
@@SamiLuo They don't care ... They only care about bringing out many new models.
They also are terrible at bringing out their models worldwide, some models do and some don't. Usually the ones you want dont make it global or they will have botched specs.
seems like other than the infamous snapdragon 888, the 11 ultra seems to be the better phone overall, especially with the steep discount. i personally found those leica filters mostly good for marketing purposes. not the kind of change i hoped to see in xiaomi, but then that's one way to go premium with better profit margins i guess.
12s looks better on my 4k laptop and mi 11 looks better on my 4k tv. I bought both phones ( waiting on giztop for the 12s)
Hi guys, planning to buy a phone to have better vids and pics when I am in concert/events. Which of these two phones are better?
Do Moto Edge 30 Ultra vs Xioami 12 Pro
The camera is way better than the mi11 ultra , dynamic range , color profile and shutter speed , The uprade also are in haptic feedback , sound , battery and cpu . Also the display i think is more capable since u can choose also 90hz refresh rate , and lets talk about how hot the mi11 ultra get? unusable some time
Speakers?
@@danieltosic6213 best in the markwt
@@DavideStiff exacly nr1 very lound
Mi 11 ultra is fully updated but now need updates for 12s ultra bcs he was lounched right now so 12s ultra after update will beast
hope so
There are NO guarantees .... Xiaomi is NOT great with updates.
Look at the 11 ultra and the options for that back display that would come with an update, have we seen that after 1 year ??
you guys are awesome!!! Thanks for the great comparison! ❤👍👍👍Or maybe well, fuck it 12s ultra? Maybe it's better to buy the good old 11 ultra? 🙂🙂🙂 wow, what about the fucking proximity sensor ??
انا اشك ان شاومي مستخدمة سينسور 1 انش
你好,Sami! 谢谢你的视频，可以看到很多有用的消息。请问可以对比一下小米12S Ultra
和小米11 Ultra 以及荣耀magic4至臻版 在极暗环境下（几乎无光）户外和室内的4K 30
帧 视频拍摄对比。老哥你这个夜景测评地点光线比较强，即使小传感器的手机也能得到几乎差不多的夜景效果。如果能放在极暗环境中测试，更能拉出不同传感器的大小进光量差异，而荣耀magic4至臻版的光圈f1.6,比小米的f1.9更大，可以的话请对比一下。谢谢！
kk makes sense! video on the way
888 real makes the 11u burn. it would bring down the video fps.
Other than the thermal problem the 11u is just fantastic.
Impress by 11 ultra here....on the new one, 12s ultra it having this jittery when he took a video, like something that midrange phone usually have...thats strange
Hello Sami Luo i prefer Xiaomi 12S Ultra than Xiaomi 11 Ultra because it is a better phone for me 😁😍😆
Samples, original RAW SAMPLES PLEEEEAAAASSSEEEEE!!!😃🤠🤓
For me xiaomi 11 ultra❤️👍👍👍
M 12s utra krasivy i khorosho 😍
So far the 12s ultra def looks better the 11 has such a grey tone to the colors like the white balance is to high or someth ing
I am watching on mi 11 ultra beast phone all the best
I find that mi 11 Ultra makes better photos at low light an on day it seems both are same
12S night performance better
This video makes me learn Chinese.
Nihao...
lol
I don't see a huge difference. At least not enough to make want to go out and spend a lot more money.
Brasil 🇧🇷
🇧🇷✅
my choice mı 11 ultra
try to zoom the moon please
12s is more stable than 11 in 4k/60
I think mi11 ultra is still better
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11 ultra is good
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The video on the 12S ultra is clearly better, with more detail and better colors
These kind of comparisons are getting rediculous, stupid and just downright dumb...makes no sense at all since the available light conditions and the slightest change in the way the camera/phone is held, can make a huge difference within milli seconds. And also, I don't understand most of what these 2 wanna-be comedians are saying, I mean is it even English...???.
You can't even spell "Ridiculous" right, lol... what you are saying are just representing yourself, and don't tell others they shouldn't like this video, you pathetic little fuck
Mi 11 ultra the best
Mi 11 is the best
Still an early bird I guess. Software in a diapers. But Xiaomi really needs to step up with software.maybe some dedicated cam chip like Vivo did. for me here in this comparison 11ultra won.
How is 8+g1 chip?overheating is better handled then on 8g1??imo 8gen1 phones are a waste.
11 better
The 12s ultra is better, it's looking more natural and it got more details
Mi11 ultra is better
Samsung n VivO camera 📸 is best 👍. MI brand camera's views Only basics. 👎
I also use mi 11 ultra.. Honestly mi 11 ultra is better than mi 12 ultra....one of my friend is using mi 12 ultra i compare it..my mi 11 ultra was far better and even mi 12 ultra battery life is not good or else i would have bought it... Im a big fan of xiaomi
12s ultra selfie is sucks..better iPhone for overall performance or Samsung s22 ultra..