or its like drill sergeant emry. "you are a worthless %$@@# electron that cant #$%#@ a mass if your &#$%# orbit depended on it." noone ever said a motivator has to be nice.
I actually know someone who works on the NASA warp drive project at Eagleworks in Johnson Space Center. Also, one of the scientists who got the nobel prize mentioned is Kyp Thorne, a major contributor to the movie Interstellar (movie was originally based on his ideas and they used his equations to model black holes and worm holes using CGI, inadvertently causing new discoveries to be made about black holes; the production of a movie caused major astrophysics breakthroughs!)
Wait a fuckin' minute, NASA has a designated propulsion research lab? Holy fuck. That's literally the job I want to do. Alright, guess I'm moving to Texas. Edit: Watched the video. The comment about mass energy required being comparable to the size of Voyager 1 instead of fucking Jupiter is just unbelievable. Holy shit. Also, 10x c is equivalent to warp 2.2 in Star Trek. Holy fuck. Eat shit, Cochrane. Also, WHY DOES THE GENERAL PUBLIC NOT CARE ABOUT SPACE TRAVEL?? Oh well. I guess they will care when NASA engineers and researchers make the first jump out of the solar system.
abyssic Yes, but JPL is also one of their major research partners. And most people care more about their social media feeds than space travel or the future of the human race...
Hyperspace in theory is a higher dimension that we cannot even comprehend, it being a sort of condensed version of realspace. The signatures of large objects in realspace are mass shadows. These are essentially highly dense areas in Hyperspace that can crush a ship or even hurl it rapidly off course, think of the opposite of gravity.
Hyperspace is a physical phenomenon which can be described as a different dimension. Hyperspace is filled with taceons, really hyperspace is just how realspace is relative to objects traveling at ftl velocities. Gravity is the same in hyperspace and space is the same as realspace kinda. It’s just Ships are capable of going many times past the speed of light.
USS Gerald R. Ford 12th CSG The Star Trek novel 'Eye of the Beholder' has an interesting comparison between their FTL travel and 'The Medusans' who are formless energy beings with advanced mathematical minds able to navigate better than starship computers. The relic the Enterprise encounters is thought to be from a race related to the Medusans, and they speculate that this race travelled in a way similar to that described in the video. Its the best mental bridge between warp and hyperspace 'flight mechanics' I know of.
This “ripping of space” theory is one of the two most popular theories of FTL travel. I personally believe that the _Halo_ route of opening a wormhole in front of the object and plotting an exit seems to be closer to reality.
The great thing is, even if we develop a warp drive technology that carries us at just a small fraction of the speed of light, it would still enable us to travel around within our own star system quite easily! You could make it from Earth to Mars in just a couple of days, instead of months!
Local FTL would greatly make travel in the solar system accessible to the majority of the human race and also greatly encourage mass immigration for potential colonist in and around the system. It all depends on how you market it. Even with our current tech if humanity pushed it, we could be having colonies on the moon or mars well within our life time and sizable ones at that. Well people might say we should wait for the technology to make it faster or safer, the problem is that the longer you wait the less likely something will happen. As you start getting people to go, the technology should begin to advance as companies, colonies, and nations desire to have faster transportation, of people, resources or equipment. Here's a example, back in 2013 it was stated that travel to Earth and Mars would take up to 150-300 days depending on launch and travel time and alignment of earth and the current rocket and space tech we had as of 2013. As of 2016 according to Elon Musk it would take as little as 80 days to achieve travel to Mars. If this is true humanity has advanced quite a bit in several years on rocketry and space tech where space travel has shortened quite significantly and that was due to people like Elon Musk being so damn determined to see it happen. If you can get that determination you can get results and if this becomes the norm then space travel becomes cheaper and more human friendly (travel time) Oh and fun fact. For us to Terraform Mars it needs to be insulated (atmosphere). Humans are currently more than capable of achieving Atmospheric restoration of Mars with current tech. as all we need to do is simply thicken the atmosphere in order to trap heat and we can do that with a variety of ways. one cheap way would be is simply build rockets that carries the necessary chemicals and atmosphere making ingredients and simply fire them into Mars. Something we could do easily as we already have accurate targeting systems and can easily build disposable rockets. .
Generation Tech well, maybe folding space isnt what you try to do. Maybe it really is just go faster, and when you look back at the physics,, indeed space is clearly folded for the trip.
I also read something in Legends that said that once you're in Hyperspace and decide to stare out at Hyperspace itself for extended periods of time you may suffer what is known as "Hyperspace Sickness". Hyperspace Sickness is essentially a condition that leads to a mentally breakdown of your mind, as your brain cells struggle to interpret the universe at many times the Speed Of Light and essentially "commit suicide". PS: Great video as always, can't wait to see more :)
Unfortunately... the voyager mass of fuel rather than Jupiter size amount, the fuel is still negative mass, which afawk doesn't exist in the real world 😞
Well, if the fabric of space really works the way I have seen it depicted, which is by taking a cloth sheet and pulling it taught, then you most certainly can fold space. _All_ you need is something with enough mass, as to sink far enough into the fabric of space, if it is big enough it will sink so far into the fabric of space that, at some point, would create a small gap that you could more easily travel over. Then you uncreate the mass and the fabric of space will snap back into place. But the problem with this is you would need to create a blackhole to make the fabric of space dip down far enough, as blackholes are about the only thing that has enough mass to warp the fabric of space by an adequate amount, enough to make a trip shorter. The other problem is that we would get sucked into the blackhole as well during the travel. And, personally, I do not like the idea of being speghettified(that is an actual word). Speghettification is when one part of your body is going in order of magnitude faster than the rest of your body, effectively pulling your legs into very long strings, with the rest of you following suit in short order. This is what would happen to you if you were pulled into a blackhole. Anyway, Earth is causing a warp in the fabric of space as it is. So is the sun. So is Jupiter. But the warps in the fabric of space they are making is obviously not big enough. They are more like dents, or little dimples. We would need more mass than all three, Jupiter, the sun and Earth, combined. And there is also the danger of ripping the fabric space. Is this a thing that can happen? We don't really know. If it were a fabric sheet like the kind we manufacture on Earth, made of cotton or polyester, then yes, for sure it would rip at some point. But the fabric sheet is really just an analogue that makes the fabric of space easier to comprehend. We don't actually know what the fabric of space is made of yet. It certainly is not made of cotton or polyester.
The Homeworld series has a really cool take on this. It's implied that they figured out how to make a macroscopic object like a ship behave like a subatomic particle. Subatomic particles can cheat in the right circumstances, and thus hyperspace travel was discovered
I sure hope the warp drive is possible and will be created in the near future. I'd love to hear about a spacecraft reaching alpha centauri within my lifetime.
Problem with theoretical warp drive, getting out of warp, its been theorized that actually getting out of it is impossible, and if you could its also theorized that the warp bubble would 'pick up' particles and after you jump out they would be launched forward destroying your ship and anything infront of it, ie: a planet, dont quote me on this im no scientist.
As far as I'm aware there is some accuracy to that. I'm not a scientist either so I can't say for sure. But from what I understand a warp field traveling at FTL speeds would effectively create an event horizon behind the ship. And this event horizon would emit so much hawking radiation that anything inside the warp field would pretty much instantly be destroyed. But even if that's not the case there are still plenty of other ways in which an Alcubierre drive could delete you from the universe. Lets see here. The extreme bending of spacetime required to make it work would probably shred any known material into oblivion. All of the light that hits the front of your ship would be blue shifted into the gamma ray spectrum. Oh and lets not forget that at FTL speeds just about every bit of space dust you encounter would hit you like a nuclear bomb. There are a lot of problems with warp drives that make them almost certainly impossible to build. But they are one of the very few methods of FTL travel that don't strictly speaking break any known laws of physics. And all things considered that's still a pretty good start XD
An interesting thing I just found about the White Drive (a modification of the Alcubierre Drive) is that the warp bubble is capable of speeding a starship into the hyper-dimensional state they are now calling ‘Hyper-Space’. It’s possible that BOTH franchises have it right! :O
Great vid with the exception of the video clips shown during explanation using the Falcon (~2:30). It was distracting from you excellent explanation of that part.
There is Technically a way to create Hyper-Lanes & such. Much like Animals making Trails & Water Carving Rivers, when Ships start Gouging Paths & Courses through Known Space (using Warp Drive, Preferably), the most Traveled Paths will eventually become Hyperpaths & then they'd eventually become something equivalent to Celestial Interstates.
Also from a tecnical standpoint "Hyperspace lanes" are just the safest ways to and from planets using a Hyperdrive so by Sending ships out to map it out would be great and efficient
(For those wondering) Warp explanation: the contraction and expansion of space-time around an object e.g. a Spaceship Hyperspace: moving through an alternate dimension to achieve faster than light travel
I love Star Wars and Hyper drive! Aliens use this stuff to go from galaxy to galaxy or bend light or make space time into future or past travile like a time machine! Great show pal.
Publishing house/ film company " copy right, copy right, copy right." It is like a diesel truck engine , you can only change the internal working till it no longer works. All new patents are really for the engine outer casing. A faster than flight engine will more or less use the same type of fuel. Anti matter is a science term of the public domain, but " dilithium crystals " is copy righted to one film company. So is phaser, but even our current "laser" tech runs more like a phaser but public phrase still calls it Laser. Later 1970's and early 1980's the common catch term was still " laser." Yet Star Wars " blasters/ lasers" are Particle Accelerator Cannons ( P.A.C.), also so are Star Trek " phasers." But " Pac " was copy righted by a video game company. Lucas Films one time Sued a company cause they off handed remaked their new Laser Surgery tool was " like " a light saber. On one youtube page commenter remarked that we will have a working Warp Drive before Star Trek enters the Public Domain.
Cygnus X-01 yeah but now the military and NASA have different goals they want to achieve and NASA is focused on the expansion of humans reach in our solar system while the us military is researching new ways to defend and spy
I took a submarine tour once, we were at a depth of around 25 meters and the tour guides turned off the lights. The natural light coming in from the portholes was redshifted, caused by the slower movement of light through water. It was a really interesting effect.
1) Best video I've seen from you guys yet (after about 20 or so), especially the ending. 2) Nobel peace prize for physics? Ok, maybe they made that one up after the a-bomb so people would stop making super-weapons. :p 3) Those mini-videos were so funny I couldn't follow what you were saying at all. I'm going to have to watch it again but with willpower. 4) I want Jim Carrey as my navigator. That would be so much fun.
You should do a video about why Star Wars and Stargate hyperspace travel works differently. You can actually go through solid object in Stargate franchise (SG-1 flew threw Earth with asteroid)
Hyperspace Motivator is such a great name. It's not quite as good as the infamous Flux Capacitor (which ya I know is for time travel. But come on, that thing is so dope it can probably do this too). But the motivator is still a pretty cool name.
Not to necro, but they actually did manage to create a microscopic warp bubble very recently. They were doing something else, and accidentally discovered it, but it checks all the boxes for Alcubierre's theories on how one is supposed to work.
The Ancient Ship Destiny in SGU has an FTL drive that seems very similar to Star Wars Hyperdrive. It has similar limitations concerning gravity and planets and is slower within a Galaxy but far faster in a galactic void. Destiny also required her shields to be active in FTL like Star Wars...possibly for the same dusty reason.
I think I remember it being explained like this: Basically, everything you said, but add that in the alternate dimension of hyperspace, the laws of physics are different such that time dilation, mass and energy needs becoming infinite etc don't happen at light speed l ile they would in realspace. Thus, it's an alternate dimension that allows light speed travel or slightly faster than I'm the case of the Falcon and also it cuts distance by acting as a wormhole. Like I said, I think in Legends it was explained something like that.
You have compaired Hyperspace to Warp a couple of times. How about comparing it with some oddball space travel from other movies or books like folding space in Dune. You mentioned folding space here let's compair to Dune. There is some detailed explanation in books.
Star Wars never tries to explain their technology, but just that it works. Star Trek does try to put a science spin on its technology, some works, some is way beyond our tech level but it is theoretical possible such as the Warp drive and the transport.
My theory is the hyperdrive condenses the space (between the ships surface and something like 100km in front of the ship) onto the ships surface so the ship just travels at the regular or possibly maximum speed but when it travels the equivalent of a couple of millimetres it actually travels hundreds of km as the hundreds of km are condensed into the space of a couple of mm. (explains why ships stretch out when entering hyperspace and snap back when leaving it. As the space condenses in front of the ship, for an observer, the ship stretches out.
5'31'':to be detected even at such distance energy from black holes collision was needed for a proton sized ripple in space time. This is a huge of energy to reproduce before we know how to use it.
the problem with bending space with gravity is yeah jumping the gap would make the end point closer but to do that you would have to leave our dimension AND overcome the massive gravity you created to bend space to begin with.
Please more of this about bending space but on a deep and way longer video please, thank you. Have you thought about what happens if we are able to bend space time and what would be the consequences of or solar system? Would everything come hurling towards the ships point of dense space or worse the earth?
Actually as I understand it the difference between the warp system of Star Trek and the Hyper drive of Star wars is where in Star Trek they channel some of the matter/antimatter energy into the dilitum chamber. They energy picks up dilitum particles they emit this surrounding the ship "warp bubble" allowing entry into sub-space. But they can enter warp whenever or wherever they want. In Star Wars you have hyperspace routes. In a new hope Obi-Wan says "how long before you can make the jump to hyperspace." In other words the ship has to be in a position to enter hyperspace. Think of them as high speed road ways like a freeway or the autobahn but you to find an "on ramp to enter them". And yes you still have a structural integrity sheild to keep the ship in tact to keep from being ripped apart from the extreme speeds.
Sounds a lot like Stargate wormholes how they use Space-Time to travel and communicate over vast distances. The SGU ship (Destiny?), uses an FTL Drive similar to Battlestar Galactica's FTL travel
Idea: What if in the Hyper Space Dimension the light travels faster than in ordinary space? like if somehow Hyper-Space were even less dense than vacuum (i dunno, some quantum mumbo-jumbo), which allows more speed without violating relativity and offers even less resistance to reach those speeds
Very interesting . I like this channel because I feel like you all really do your research and present a well thought out show every time. I will admit it was hard to follow along with the EU explanation but then you follow it up with actual science about what we human know understand. Thank you for all the hard work..
The speed of light is constant only our relative perception of it makes it seem like it has slowed down. For example when light goes through a diamond it refracts making the light bounce around for a while making it seem like the light beam has been traveling slower even though in reality it's just taken a longer path
So it seems that hyperspace is a much more violent version of warp. It uses excessive force to catapult through spacetime rather than a warp engine which would pull and push it on a smaller level. It means that the caretakers array in voyager could be considered a hyperspace catapult and is probably why voyager was so badly damaged by the trip as it wasn't designed with dampeners strong enough for the acceleration
what if you used the concept of warp drive warping space itself or whatever plus photonic boom would it go even faster or would it not make a diffrence?
I thought that the hyperdrive in starwars entered in to a sort of "highway" that was built long before the events of the old republic. Although that might just be part of legends now...
Mass shadow would bring the ship out of hyperspace anyway... The main point of interdictors actually was to prevent hyperspace jump in first place. as its impossible to the jump out inside mass shadow. its possible to fly into it before being agresively yanked out.
A lot ofpeople seem to be confused about how warp bubbles work. First of all think back to futurama, the delivery ship there? The theory for it that it doesn't move, it moves space around it so it was able to move faster than light. A warp bubble does the same thing. The ship isn't moving, it's moving space. Warp bubbles happen in space on their own, so we theorize that we should be able to create one. As for a possible way of doing it or creating a power source for it? Magnetic fields. Hey if a powerful magnetic field can convert gamma radiation from the Sun into plasma then it can all kinds of crazy things.
love you guys , yes more star trek and stargate, i know you dabbled in star trek and probably got a negative response from children who dont realize that you can like more than more one thing, your vids are brill and id love to see your take and make fun of other sci fi universes
+t3h51d3w1nd3r thanks yea ben is more the Star Trek guy on the channel but yea I love all sorts of scifi ended series is one of my favorites but I’ll pretty much gobble up everything in the genre also like post apocalyptic the metro series is what I’m currently reading
I had always assumed the mass shadow yanking of a ship out of hyperspace was a physical restriction, not a failsafe that got built in after the fact. Disabling the failsafe would explain how Han dropped into the atmosphere of Starkiller base, but wouldn't that make interdicter cruisers useless, or at least less useful, because a trapped starship could just disable the failsafe to escape?
ZoidsNut, it requires hacking the navacomputer and disabling the failsafe protocols however this can't be done on the fly and is heavily encrypted to prevent accident's in the first place that's why it takes time.
I have a good question concerning the emperors spire on the second death star.What would happen if they just destroyed the spire as soon as the shields went down?
Cherenkov radiation only exists because the speed of light is lower in water. What people should mean when they say nothing can travel faster than the speed of light, is that nothing can travel faster than the speed light has in a vacuum. This isn't something special about light itself, it is actually the speed of causal interaction and light in a vacuum happens to move at that speed because it is a massless particle. And gamma radiation is just high-energy photons, not charged particles.
Anyone hear of the alcubera drive? I may have misspelled that but physicist by that or very a similar name wrote a mathematical formula for a functional warp drive capable of hundreds of times the speed of light.
I highly believe that Star Trek technology is more achievable than Star Wars technology! :) I love both worlds but I am SO looking forward to trying out ST:Bridge Crew once I get a pc that can run VR properly! :)
well think about all that is needed to si created a wave on the em spectrum (I think) and and strong enough em field to protect the ship. hence why I think a cylinder formed ship would initially work.
It seems there's the eagleworks lab that study the possibility to go faster than lightspeed by using negative energy or exotic matter (sound's like star wars hypermatter, don't you think ?)
but the eagleworks lab are more likely working on some king of warpdrive. By expabding and contracting the space-time continuum it go faster than the lightspeed...
i always thought of hyperdrive as a accelerator. since particles can move to the speed of light in there. maybe for this to work. cosmic particles enter it in the front and are accelerated out the back. then what about the G forces and slowing down? time slows down as you go toward the speed of light
Well in order to jump into a higher dimension outside our normal space time, you would need something that exists half way between the higher dimension and normal space time.
I imagine the hyperdrive motivator to be a machine that yells encouraging catch phrases to the hyperdrive. "Come on! You can do it! One more jump!"
No wonder Han's Hyperdrive fails at the most inconvenient of times. He probably got his motivator removed and it's all depressed. :P
it uses the same motivator like the R2 unit on Tatoonie. "Oncle Owen this R2 unit has a bad motivator"
or its like drill sergeant emry. "you are a worthless %$@@# electron that cant #$%#@ a mass if your &#$%# orbit depended on it."
noone ever said a motivator has to be nice.
Haha yes
As the ship gets progressively more and more constipated
I actually know someone who works on the NASA warp drive project at Eagleworks in Johnson Space Center. Also, one of the scientists who got the nobel prize mentioned is Kyp Thorne, a major contributor to the movie Interstellar (movie was originally based on his ideas and they used his equations to model black holes and worm holes using CGI, inadvertently causing new discoveries to be made about black holes; the production of a movie caused major astrophysics breakthroughs!)
Jason Burn damn, I never even know that although Interstellar is one of my favorite movies of all time.
Wait a fuckin' minute, NASA has a designated propulsion research lab? Holy fuck. That's literally the job I want to do. Alright, guess I'm moving to Texas. Edit: Watched the video. The comment about mass energy required being comparable to the size of Voyager 1 instead of fucking Jupiter is just unbelievable. Holy shit. Also, 10x c is equivalent to warp 2.2 in Star Trek. Holy fuck. Eat shit, Cochrane. Also, WHY DOES THE GENERAL PUBLIC NOT CARE ABOUT SPACE TRAVEL?? Oh well. I guess they will care when NASA engineers and researchers make the first jump out of the solar system.
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Yes, but JPL is also one of their major research partners.
And most people care more about their social media feeds than space travel or the future of the human race...
Wait wait wait.....kyp thorne....kyp....KYP...as in kyp durron.....
'I know I know'. * Citation required *
Hyperspace in theory is a higher dimension that we cannot even comprehend, it being a sort of condensed version of realspace. The signatures of large objects in realspace are mass shadows. These are essentially highly dense areas in Hyperspace that can crush a ship or even hurl it rapidly off course, think of the opposite of gravity.
Hyperspace is a physical phenomenon which can be described as a different dimension. Hyperspace is filled with taceons, really hyperspace is just how realspace is relative to objects traveling at ftl velocities. Gravity is the same in hyperspace and space is the same as realspace kinda. It’s just Ships are capable of going many times past the speed of light.
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The Star Trek novel 'Eye of the Beholder' has an interesting comparison between their FTL travel and 'The Medusans' who are formless energy beings with advanced mathematical minds able to navigate better than starship computers. The relic the Enterprise encounters is thought to be from a race related to the Medusans, and they speculate that this race travelled in a way similar to that described in the video. Its the best mental bridge between warp and hyperspace 'flight mechanics' I know of.
This “ripping of space” theory is one of the two most popular theories of FTL travel. I personally believe that the _Halo_ route of opening a wormhole in front of the object and plotting an exit seems to be closer to reality.
The great thing is, even if we develop a warp drive technology that carries us at just a small fraction of the speed of light, it would still enable us to travel around within our own star system quite easily! You could make it from Earth to Mars in just a couple of days, instead of months!
+Robby Astle exactly and by folding Space we should be able to travel many times faster than the speed of light
I really want to go to Mars it be great
Local FTL would greatly make travel in the solar system accessible to the majority of the human race and also greatly encourage mass immigration for potential colonist in and around the system. It all depends on how you market it. Even with our current tech if humanity pushed it, we could be having colonies on the moon or mars well within our life time and sizable ones at that. Well people might say we should wait for the technology to make it faster or safer, the problem is that the longer you wait the less likely something will happen. As you start getting people to go, the technology should begin to advance as companies, colonies, and nations desire to have faster transportation, of people, resources or equipment. Here's a example, back in 2013 it was stated that travel to Earth and Mars would take up to 150-300 days depending on launch and travel time and alignment of earth and the current rocket and space tech we had as of 2013. As of 2016 according to Elon Musk it would take as little as 80 days to achieve travel to Mars. If this is true humanity has advanced quite a bit in several years on rocketry and space tech where space travel has shortened quite significantly and that was due to people like Elon Musk being so damn determined to see it happen. If you can get that determination you can get results and if this becomes the norm then space travel becomes cheaper and more human friendly (travel time)
Oh and fun fact. For us to Terraform Mars it needs to be insulated (atmosphere). Humans are currently more than capable of achieving Atmospheric restoration of Mars with current tech. as all we need to do is simply thicken the atmosphere in order to trap heat and we can do that with a variety of ways. one cheap way would be is simply build rockets that carries the necessary chemicals and atmosphere making ingredients and simply fire them into Mars. Something we could do easily as we already have accurate targeting systems and can easily build disposable rockets. .
Generation Tech well, maybe folding space isnt what you try to do. Maybe it really is just go faster, and when you look back at the physics,, indeed space is clearly folded for the trip.
That would be the biggest development in transportation technology since the steam locomotive or the airplane was invented.
I also read something in Legends that said that once you're in Hyperspace and decide to stare out at Hyperspace itself for extended periods of time you may suffer what is known as "Hyperspace Sickness".
Hyperspace Sickness is essentially a condition that leads to a mentally breakdown of your mind, as your brain cells struggle to interpret the universe at many times the Speed Of Light and essentially "commit suicide".
PS: Great video as always, can't wait to see more :)
I tend to find that greatly exaggerated, and if you were prone to spend THAT long staring at it, you might be already a bit unhinged, likely.
Hyperdrives are dependent on hyperspace existing. Warp drive is the more likely method of eventual FTL in real life
Or wormholes
@@holdyup1037 thats just waffle mate
@@rhian6459 No, I’m just waffle!
@@holdyup1037 Space will heal itself Obi Wan said so.
Unfortunately... the voyager mass of fuel rather than Jupiter size amount, the fuel is still negative mass, which afawk doesn't exist in the real world 😞
4:54 the Nobel peace prize in physics?
Haha, your right, it's the Nobel Prize for Physics, the Nobel Prize for Peace is a separate award.
@@peddlerofbombast6982 I think he said Nobel piece prize, as in only having a piece of the prize
You guys always make such awesome content, I'm glad I discovered this channel :)
I use hyperspice on my hyperchips..
First Order: thinks it’s so cool because it can track ships through hyperspace.
Empire: yeah WE CAN PULL SHIPS OUT OF HYPERSPACE!
Well, if the fabric of space really works the way I have seen it depicted, which is by taking a cloth sheet and pulling it taught, then you most certainly can fold space. _All_ you need is something with enough mass, as to sink far enough into the fabric of space, if it is big enough it will sink so far into the fabric of space that, at some point, would create a small gap that you could more easily travel over. Then you uncreate the mass and the fabric of space will snap back into place.
But the problem with this is you would need to create a blackhole to make the fabric of space dip down far enough, as blackholes are about the only thing that has enough mass to warp the fabric of space by an adequate amount, enough to make a trip shorter. The other problem is that we would get sucked into the blackhole as well during the travel. And, personally, I do not like the idea of being speghettified(that is an actual word). Speghettification is when one part of your body is going in order of magnitude faster than the rest of your body, effectively pulling your legs into very long strings, with the rest of you following suit in short order. This is what would happen to you if you were pulled into a blackhole.
Anyway, Earth is causing a warp in the fabric of space as it is. So is the sun. So is Jupiter. But the warps in the fabric of space they are making is obviously not big enough. They are more like dents, or little dimples. We would need more mass than all three, Jupiter, the sun and Earth, combined.
And there is also the danger of ripping the fabric space. Is this a thing that can happen? We don't really know. If it were a fabric sheet like the kind we manufacture on Earth, made of cotton or polyester, then yes, for sure it would rip at some point. But the fabric sheet is really just an analogue that makes the fabric of space easier to comprehend. We don't actually know what the fabric of space is made of yet. It certainly is not made of cotton or polyester.
The Homeworld series has a really cool take on this. It's implied that they figured out how to make a macroscopic object like a ship behave like a subatomic particle. Subatomic particles can cheat in the right circumstances, and thus hyperspace travel was discovered
I sure hope the warp drive is possible and will be created in the near future. I'd love to hear about a spacecraft reaching alpha centauri within my lifetime.
Our future warp drive that NASA is working on is called the Alcubierre drive for anyone interested in reading more about it
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Problem with theoretical warp drive, getting out of warp, its been theorized that actually getting out of it is impossible, and if you could its also theorized that the warp bubble would 'pick up' particles and after you jump out they would be launched forward destroying your ship and anything infront of it, ie: a planet, dont quote me on this im no scientist.
As far as I'm aware there is some accuracy to that. I'm not a scientist either so I can't say for sure. But from what I understand a warp field traveling at FTL speeds would effectively create an event horizon behind the ship. And this event horizon would emit so much hawking radiation that anything inside the warp field would pretty much instantly be destroyed. But even if that's not the case there are still plenty of other ways in which an Alcubierre drive could delete you from the universe. Lets see here. The extreme bending of spacetime required to make it work would probably shred any known material into oblivion. All of the light that hits the front of your ship would be blue shifted into the gamma ray spectrum. Oh and lets not forget that at FTL speeds just about every bit of space dust you encounter would hit you like a nuclear bomb.
There are a lot of problems with warp drives that make them almost certainly impossible to build. But they are one of the very few methods of FTL travel that don't strictly speaking break any known laws of physics. And all things considered that's still a pretty good start XD
Now I'm terrified.
Mr. Swordfish yeah you're right. I have a science book that says the same thing
An interesting thing I just found about the White Drive (a modification of the Alcubierre Drive) is that the warp bubble is capable of speeding a starship into the hyper-dimensional state they are now calling ‘Hyper-Space’. It’s possible that BOTH franchises have it right! :O
This was an interesting vid. Thanks for it. Big fan of your channel.
This is a new account but on the old one I was here from 30k. You are the best Star Wars youtuber out there.
If you think about the way Han flew the Falcon, I'd venture a guess that he was somewhat Force-sensitive.
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A very interesting video. Now I want to see you do one about the faster than light communications in Star Wars.
You know, I'm very surprised you don't have more subscribers... You guys really deserve them!
Also remember that a compressor might put too much stress on the hyperdrive and you might have to bypass it.
Great vid with the exception of the video clips shown during explanation using the Falcon (~2:30). It was distracting from you excellent explanation of that part.
Really great marriage of worlds for this video! This direction for your subjects is great.
4:02, hyperspace jump into the atmosphere of a planet? Say no more: Adama maneuver
This is awesome. Please do more sci-fi tech vs real world tech!
Hey what about a Hyperdrive vs. Mass Drive video?!
same thing
VS Slipspace drive
Isn't mass drive more like a jump drive?
It was cool to see LIGO in your video. I went with my son's class to LIGO in Livington, Louisiana, and even got to see the control room.
There is Technically a way to create Hyper-Lanes & such. Much like Animals making Trails & Water Carving Rivers, when Ships start Gouging Paths & Courses through Known Space (using Warp Drive, Preferably), the most Traveled Paths will eventually become Hyperpaths & then they'd eventually become something equivalent to Celestial Interstates.
and then the damn Vogons will be given the job to clear earth. is this what you want? huh? because this is how we will get horrible poetry!!!
Andreas Stevens, I was making analogies based on the History of Star Wars's Hypertravel.
Also from a tecnical standpoint "Hyperspace lanes" are just the safest ways to and from planets using a Hyperdrive so by Sending ships out to map it out would be great and efficient
PRECISELY, TedDoesGaming! But I still prefer the Warp Drive Method because its technically different from Hyperdrive.
Been waitin for this one! Awesome video!
(For those wondering)
Warp explanation: the contraction and expansion of space-time around an object e.g. a Spaceship
Hyperspace: moving through an alternate dimension to achieve faster than light travel
It is very exciting for me too that we are actually looking at ways to achieve FTL in real life. Keep up the good work man!
I love Star Wars and Hyper drive! Aliens use this stuff to go from galaxy to galaxy or bend light or make space time into future or past travile like a time machine! Great show pal.
Publishing house/ film company " copy right, copy right, copy right."
It is like a diesel truck engine , you can only change the internal working till it no longer works. All new patents are really for the engine outer casing.
A faster than flight engine will more or less use the same type of fuel. Anti matter is a science term of the public domain, but " dilithium crystals " is copy righted to one film company. So is phaser, but even our current "laser" tech runs more like a phaser but public phrase still calls it Laser.
Later 1970's and early 1980's the common catch term was still " laser."
Yet Star Wars " blasters/ lasers" are Particle Accelerator Cannons ( P.A.C.), also so are Star Trek " phasers."
But " Pac " was copy righted by a video game company.
Lucas Films one time Sued a company cause they off handed remaked their new Laser Surgery tool was " like " a light saber.
On one youtube page commenter remarked that we will have a working Warp Drive before Star Trek enters the
Public Domain.
If NASA had the us army's budget we would have warp drives like star trek in like two decades😂
Most of teh stuff NASA uses was originally made by the Military.
+petros j. Haha yup that’s what the space program was like during the cold war
Cygnus X-01 yeah but now the military and NASA have different goals they want to achieve and NASA is focused on the expansion of humans reach in our solar system while the us military is researching new ways to defend and spy
Brightside; NASA is getting a bigger budget
Cygnus X-01 I thought the military did
This star trek warp drive is called an Alcubierre drive but requires exotic matter and negative mass.
I took a submarine tour once, we were at a depth of around 25 meters and the tour guides turned off the lights. The natural light coming in from the portholes was redshifted, caused by the slower movement of light through water. It was a really interesting effect.
+Pladimir Vutin whoa that’s really interesting
+Pladimir Vutin btw did you save any dolphins afterwards?
A sonic boom but for light! Nice! Straight up metal AF!
A freaking Photonic Boom! Cherenkov Radiation!
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1) Best video I've seen from you guys yet (after about 20 or so), especially the ending.
2) Nobel peace prize for physics? Ok, maybe they made that one up after the a-bomb so people would stop making super-weapons. :p
3) Those mini-videos were so funny I couldn't follow what you were saying at all. I'm going to have to watch it again but with willpower.
4) I want Jim Carrey as my navigator. That would be so much fun.
Alan your a legend. Your positivity is contagious :)
The perfect subcount. Congratulations my friend.
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the end of this video was really touching :3
You should do a video about why Star Wars and Stargate hyperspace travel works differently. You can actually go through solid object in Stargate franchise (SG-1 flew threw Earth with asteroid)
that's EXACTLY my dream!!! to make Science Fiction into Reality!
Hyperspace Motivator is such a great name. It's not quite as good as the infamous Flux Capacitor (which ya I know is for time travel. But come on, that thing is so dope it can probably do this too). But the motivator is still a pretty cool name.
Not to necro, but they actually did manage to create a microscopic warp bubble very recently. They were doing something else, and accidentally discovered it, but it checks all the boxes for Alcubierre's theories on how one is supposed to work.
The Ancient Ship Destiny in SGU has an FTL drive that seems very similar to Star Wars Hyperdrive. It has similar limitations concerning gravity and planets and is slower within a Galaxy but far faster in a galactic void. Destiny also required her shields to be active in FTL like Star Wars...possibly for the same dusty reason.
I'm actually friends with Sonny White of NASA Eagleworks Labratories. Great guy and very interesting to speak with.
Great video! Love your content guys!
I think that the warp drive nasa project is more plausible
I think I remember it being explained like this: Basically, everything you said, but add that in the alternate dimension of hyperspace, the laws of physics are different such that time dilation, mass and energy needs becoming infinite etc don't happen at light speed l ile they would in realspace. Thus, it's an alternate dimension that allows light speed travel or slightly faster than I'm the case of the Falcon and also it cuts distance by acting as a wormhole. Like I said, I think in Legends it was explained something like that.
best conclusion ever
You have compaired Hyperspace to Warp a couple of times. How about comparing it with some oddball space travel from other movies or books like folding space in Dune. You mentioned folding space here let's compair to Dune. There is some detailed explanation in books.
Star Wars never tries to explain their technology, but just that it works.
Star Trek does try to put a science spin on its technology, some works, some is way beyond our tech level but it is theoretical possible such as the Warp drive and the transport.
My theory is the hyperdrive condenses the space (between the ships surface and something like 100km in front of the ship) onto the ships surface so the ship just travels at the regular or possibly maximum speed but when it travels the equivalent of a couple of millimetres it actually travels hundreds of km as the hundreds of km are condensed into the space of a couple of mm. (explains why ships stretch out when entering hyperspace and snap back when leaving it. As the space condenses in front of the ship, for an observer, the ship stretches out.
5'31'':to be detected even at such distance energy from black holes collision was needed for a proton sized ripple in space time. This is a huge of energy to reproduce before we know how to use it.
Great episode.
the problem with bending space with gravity is yeah jumping the gap would make the end point closer but to do that you would have to leave our dimension AND overcome the massive gravity you created to bend space to begin with.
Please more of this about bending space but on a deep and way longer video please, thank you. Have you thought about what happens if we are able to bend space time and what would be the consequences of or solar system? Would everything come hurling towards the ships point of dense space or worse the earth?
Actually as I understand it the difference between the warp system of Star Trek and the Hyper drive of Star wars is where in Star Trek they channel some of the matter/antimatter energy into the dilitum chamber. They energy picks up dilitum particles they emit this surrounding the ship "warp bubble" allowing entry into sub-space. But they can enter warp whenever or wherever they want. In Star Wars you have hyperspace routes. In a new hope Obi-Wan says "how long before you can make the jump to hyperspace." In other words the ship has to be in a position to enter hyperspace. Think of them as high speed road ways like a freeway or the autobahn but you to find an "on ramp to enter them". And yes you still have a structural integrity sheild to keep the ship in tact to keep from being ripped apart from the extreme speeds.
Sounds a lot like Stargate wormholes how they use Space-Time to travel and communicate over vast distances. The SGU ship (Destiny?), uses an FTL Drive similar to Battlestar Galactica's FTL travel
AWESOME VIDEO!
Idea: What if in the Hyper Space Dimension the light travels faster than in ordinary space? like if somehow Hyper-Space were even less dense than vacuum (i dunno, some quantum mumbo-jumbo), which allows more speed without violating relativity and offers even less resistance to reach those speeds
Very interesting . I like this channel because I feel like you all really do your research and present a well thought out show every time. I will admit it was hard to follow along with the EU explanation but then you follow it up with actual science about what we human know understand. Thank you for all the hard work..
The speed of light is constant only our relative perception of it makes it seem like it has slowed down. For example when light goes through a diamond it refracts making the light bounce around for a while making it seem like the light beam has been traveling slower even though in reality it's just taken a longer path
There's about 100 different explanations for Star Wars hyperdrive, from tachyons to hypermatter, it's all magic.
do a video that explains all of the other Star Wars technology
Love the channel, even though I'm a star trek lover. Can u do star trek tech since much of its tech is based in quantum physics.
Maybe generation tech should start a kickstarter campaign to fund ftl travel research
Where did you get that screensaver in the background of this vid?
So it seems that hyperspace is a much more violent version of warp. It uses excessive force to catapult through spacetime rather than a warp engine which would pull and push it on a smaller level. It means that the caretakers array in voyager could be considered a hyperspace catapult and is probably why voyager was so badly damaged by the trip as it wasn't designed with dampeners strong enough for the acceleration
what if you used the concept of warp drive warping space itself or whatever plus photonic boom would it go even faster or would it not make a diffrence?
I thought that the hyperdrive in starwars entered in to a sort of "highway" that was built long before the events of the old republic. Although that might just be part of legends now...
Mass shadow would bring the ship out of hyperspace anyway...
The main point of interdictors actually was to prevent hyperspace jump in first place. as its impossible to the jump out inside mass shadow.
its possible to fly into it before being agresively yanked out.
Is the lack of gravity well detector in the Millennium Falcons hyperdrive the reason it can do the kessel run in 12 parsecs
A lot ofpeople seem to be confused about how warp bubbles work. First of all think back to futurama, the delivery ship there? The theory for it that it doesn't move, it moves space around it so it was able to move faster than light. A warp bubble does the same thing. The ship isn't moving, it's moving space. Warp bubbles happen in space on their own, so we theorize that we should be able to create one. As for a possible way of doing it or creating a power source for it? Magnetic fields. Hey if a powerful magnetic field can convert gamma radiation from the Sun into plasma then it can all kinds of crazy things.
do a video on how shielding tech works and if we can make one
love you guys , yes more star trek and stargate, i know you dabbled in star trek and probably got a negative response from children who dont realize that you can like more than more one thing, your vids are brill and id love to see your take and make fun of other sci fi universes
+t3h51d3w1nd3r thanks yea ben is more the Star Trek guy on the channel but yea I love all sorts of scifi ended series is one of my favorites but I’ll pretty much gobble up everything in the genre also like post apocalyptic the metro series is what I’m currently reading
I had always assumed the mass shadow yanking of a ship out of hyperspace was a physical restriction, not a failsafe that got built in after the fact. Disabling the failsafe would explain how Han dropped into the atmosphere of Starkiller base, but wouldn't that make interdicter cruisers useless, or at least less useful, because a trapped starship could just disable the failsafe to escape?
ZoidsNut, it requires hacking the navacomputer and disabling the failsafe protocols however this can't be done on the fly and is heavily encrypted to prevent accident's in the first place that's why it takes time.
Can’t wait to get my millennium falcon!!
I have a good question concerning the emperors spire on the second death star.What would happen if they just destroyed the spire as soon as the shields went down?
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Generation Tech I have a question. What marinade should I use for a, Ewok sirloin steak, and what wine would pair well with it?
Generation Tech what if the Starfighter Droid from starwars ep1 didn't attack Anakin?
Star was must be way ahead of us by now since this did all happen a long, long time ago...
Cherenkov radiation only exists because the speed of light is lower in water. What people should mean when they say nothing can travel faster than the speed of light, is that nothing can travel faster than the speed light has in a vacuum. This isn't something special about light itself, it is actually the speed of causal interaction and light in a vacuum happens to move at that speed because it is a massless particle.
And gamma radiation is just high-energy photons, not charged particles.
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Anyone hear of the alcubera drive? I may have misspelled that but physicist by that or very a similar name wrote a mathematical formula for a functional warp drive capable of hundreds of times the speed of light.
I highly believe that Star Trek technology is more achievable than Star Wars technology! :) I love both worlds but I am SO looking forward to trying out ST:Bridge Crew once I get a pc that can run VR properly! :)
well think about all that is needed to si created a wave on the em spectrum (I think) and and strong enough em field to protect the ship. hence why I think a cylinder formed ship would initially work.
It seems there's the eagleworks lab that study the possibility to go faster than lightspeed by using negative energy or exotic matter (sound's like star wars hypermatter, don't you think ?)
but the eagleworks lab are more likely working on some king of warpdrive. By expabding and contracting the space-time continuum it go faster than the lightspeed...
@Generation Tech
Love ur vids guys they're awesome ^^
But could u guys do a vid explaining hyperdrive classes i read the wiki but i got confused.
He was demonstrating the idea of folding space.
Just curious Are ya guys doing earth vs galactic republic? Or is that series done?
i always thought of hyperdrive as a accelerator. since particles can move to the speed of light in there. maybe for this to work. cosmic particles enter it in the front and are accelerated out the back. then what about the G forces and slowing down? time slows down as you go toward the speed of light
FTL would be awesome and humans would colonize planets quickly with FTL I love the diagram of how canon hyperdrives work using the Millennium Falcon
The way I understand it is that the ship goes into the nether and then is able to fast travel, then after that returns to the over world
4:52 Scientist on the far right: "Go ahead punk, make my hyperdrive...."
Well in order to jump into a higher dimension outside our normal space time, you would need something that exists half way between the higher dimension and normal space time.
You should make a video on slipstream space from Halo