History 2D: Science, Magic, and Religion, Lecture 3, UCLA

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  • Lecture Title: "The Patristic Period"
    April 7th, 2009
    Professor Courtenay Raia lectures on science and religion as historical phenomena that have evolved over time. Examines the earlier mind-set before 1700 when into science fitted elements that came eventually to be seen as magical. THe course also question how Western cosmologies became "disenchanted." Magical tradition transformed into modern mysticisms is also examined as well as the political implications of these movements. Includes discussion concerning science in totalitarian settings as well as "big science" during the Cold War.
    Some clips and images may have been blurred or removed to avoid copyright infringement.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 72

  • @Sorenzo
    @Sorenzo 7 років тому +6

    Thank you so much for putting these up. American lectures aren't very interactive, but this makes them great for educating the public on UA-cam. It's a great public service, if only by letting me maintain my mental faculties despite no longer using them for work or school.

  • @AsIfInteractive
    @AsIfInteractive 9 років тому +7

    This lecture series needs to be a book. Please tell me Prof. Raia is writing a book!

  • @djhashmann
    @djhashmann 9 років тому +4

    I sincerely appreciate your wisdom

  • @andrewrothville5946
    @andrewrothville5946 8 років тому +2

    The idea of prima materia becomes very interesting when you think about how everything is created by stars...

  • @coimindeburka7716
    @coimindeburka7716 4 роки тому

    Thank you, for allowing these gems to be shared!

  • @CamilleMeehan
    @CamilleMeehan 12 років тому

    Enjoyable so far. Very happy this history course is available online. Thank you.

  • @adawood133
    @adawood133 11 років тому +2

    great lecture I think I will watch the entire series. Unfortunately nothing is perfect the main problem in this series is it speaks about the western culture ONLY. For example she did speak about philosophy in China or India or Egypt and their influence in science and mathematics even magic. In addition when she speaks about religions she only speaks about Christianity ! there are many religions in the world some of these religions had no problem with science and philosophy. For instance, ...

  • @sebastianvane446
    @sebastianvane446 10 років тому +2

    Wonderful video. We are in a time when this history is so valuable. Thank you for sharing with us.

  • @ammusi
    @ammusi 14 років тому

    totally love being able to tune into this !! THANK YOU

  • @ayebee6523
    @ayebee6523 6 років тому

    Thank you for this presentation. A lot of criticism in the comments from people who didn't listen to the actual content, most if not all of the criticism was addressed.

  • @hillarychapman1
    @hillarychapman1 9 років тому +2

    Good course..I can't beleive a course at a major university starts out with grade explanation

  • @trienke89
    @trienke89 13 років тому +1

    This is an such an interesting lecture! Does anyone know if that syllabus/study guide she's talking about in the beginning of the lecture is available online somewhere?

  • @usacut6968
    @usacut6968 5 місяців тому

    Based on [her] theory, Professor Courtenay Raia describes what is meant by “magical thinking” in her book THE NEW PROMETHEANS, (2019). All in all, [perhaps] she demonstrates (through her book and in her introductory lectures) that we do indeed engage in magical thinking, and that alone demonstrates nothing less than her genius in this area of research. [Perhaps] We use magical thinking and don't even realize it.
    Promoting [touting] magical thinking as a practical perspective at an American university is likely to get any professor into serious trouble. The pragmatic orientation of this country does not allow for a teaching model that promotes magical thinking! Business, technology and science have nothing to do with magical thinking.

  • @carltonbrice6065
    @carltonbrice6065 2 роки тому

    What is the big deal with images? Is it copyright infringement? Is it blurred out for the class also?

  • @JaapZeldenrust
    @JaapZeldenrust 6 років тому +1

    The presentation of history in this lecture series is infuriatingly imprecise: early medieval thought was a synthesis of early Christian thought and Greek pagan philosophy, but it only incorporated Platonism. Aristotelean thought disappeared, until the emerging Muslim community undertook a very concerted effort to reclaim Greek thinking and through contact with Christian communities reintroduced those ideas in European, Christian society. A lot of heretics were burned at the stake in early medieval times, but that number is dwarfed by the number of heretics burned at the stake during the high and late medieval period, when theological arguments got coopted in political strategies of the emergent empires and states of Europe. The early medieval period may have been a period of decline for Southern and Central Europe, but at the same time society around the North Sea coast was thriving. Professor Raia presents a vision of European history that would've been the dominant academic view of history up until about the 1960's. We've come quite a way since then.
    At the same time, when it comes to pre-historic thinking, professor Raia asserts a whole lot about the beliefs of pre-historic people and the origins of those beliefs, but she never justifies those assertions or qualifies the ways in which those assertions are uncertain.
    I get the impression that professor Raia doesn't want to get bogged down in details in an introductory course, and all these details are pretty unimportant for her central thesis, but she is reinforcing some bad habits in her students, and it will be up to their educators in subjects like philosophy of science, research methodology, medievistics, archaeology and anthropology to undo the damage.

    • @JaapZeldenrust
      @JaapZeldenrust 6 років тому

      Okay, I kinda jumped to my conclusion, I guess. The Platonist/Aristotelean thing gets addressed a little later in this lecture, the role of the Byzantine, Persian and Arab societies is touched upon, burning heretics in the high and late middle ages gets addressed in a lot more detail in the next lecture, etc.

  • @TheModernHermeticist
    @TheModernHermeticist 11 років тому

    Buddhism and Hinduism may not have problems with science, but hardcore materialism has problem with Buddhism and Hinduism - therefore, tension arises.

  • @LostGirl415
    @LostGirl415 14 років тому

    Free Education! Love it.

  • @Neueregel
    @Neueregel 13 років тому

    @leconfidant No she's talking about science from a religious perspective. Just watch the whole vid.

  • @xibipiio991
    @xibipiio991 12 років тому +1

    I like and dislike simultaneously how most of the comments here are about how hot she is. Yes, she is really hot, but to me what makes her so hot is that she is physically attractive and also very charismatic and funny, but SO passionate for something SO fascinating and mysterious which she can illuminate for so many others in a way that is accessible yet titillating. GRRROWLL! She reminds me of Julia Roberts too, anyone else getting that?

  • @monio.9444
    @monio.9444 3 роки тому +1

    She reminds me of Sandra Bullock

  • @petmensan
    @petmensan 13 років тому

    I'm wondering if she ended up with a line outside of he office.

  • @MeDappaDonn
    @MeDappaDonn 14 років тому +1

    yes miss, whatever you say

  • @weewilly2007
    @weewilly2007 12 років тому

    yes thanks

  • @mikeg1745
    @mikeg1745 12 років тому +1

    she's smart!

  • @N00bcrunch3r
    @N00bcrunch3r 11 років тому

    So is there anyway to skip an introductory course on history in college? I'm only a high school sophomore, but quite frankly, I've already heard all of this stuff before. Listening to it again would be boring.

    • @smartgenes1
      @smartgenes1 5 років тому

      If you think you know this already, you need to study it.

  • @LinClark
    @LinClark 14 років тому

    @Neueregel she's talking about religion as a historical phenomenon in a HISTORY class, how is that nutty? Religion IS a historical phenomenon, I can't see any argument against that fact.

  • @rustyxof
    @rustyxof 6 років тому

    Not a mention of spiritual alchemy. Those interested in physical gold were the scammers that ended the days of alchemy.

  • @Onodera1980
    @Onodera1980 10 років тому

    18:24 - Please explain how you can make such a statement as knowing how people cannot live without "some kind of faith". Are you playing fast and loose with defined terms?

    • @Onodera1980
      @Onodera1980 10 років тому +2

      You are wrong. Your statement does not even contain rudimentary logic. In one instance, faith is believing something without evidence. In the next, its believing the sun will rise again... Those are two different types of faith. One using evidence and the other not so much...

  • @brainstormingsharing1309
    @brainstormingsharing1309 2 роки тому +1

    👍👏👍👏👍

  • @zalanahara270
    @zalanahara270 2 роки тому

    cool

  • @stapuft
    @stapuft 12 років тому

    remeinds me of my speach teacher from jwu miami

  • @jihoonkim9564
    @jihoonkim9564 10 років тому +2

    can't focus on the lecture

  • @tidacouto3113
    @tidacouto3113 8 років тому

    What´s with her pronunciation of MODERNITY?

    • @Sorenzo
      @Sorenzo 7 років тому

      It's not that unusual. Sounds like modirnity. Maybe she's from Edirne?

    • @Sorenzo
      @Sorenzo 7 років тому

      Oh, now she said "midernity". Maybe she's from Midgard. ;)

  • @versio9
    @versio9 15 років тому +1

    what a pretty face. what a great lecture. this is rare.

  • @EliezerPennywhistler
    @EliezerPennywhistler 11 років тому

    Because you missed the first two lectures - that's why,

  • @EliezerPennywhistler
    @EliezerPennywhistler 11 років тому +1

    I wonder if her husband has noticed that.

  • @khalidsaaed26
    @khalidsaaed26 12 років тому

    it nice , but why you Ignore the far east like china & africa like nubian civilizations interaction throghout the human history i

  • @anouarsakly6104
    @anouarsakly6104 9 років тому +3

    She actually says (29: 30-30:12) that Muslims were destroying Latin and Greek wisdom while burning the Christian monasteries....They were the preservers; we would not have any of these texts if it had not been for the Muslim scholars. She is a brilliant scholar but she's prejudiced and historically incorrect. Something is off with her chronology.

    • @joycedominguezj.westwade9918
      @joycedominguezj.westwade9918 9 років тому

      She is tried to be impartial but you cannot beat the facts of history.

    • @joycedominguezj.westwade9918
      @joycedominguezj.westwade9918 9 років тому

      TheGodexists1 I think I would have to strongly disagree with that. We are trying to gain knowledge and develop technology for the good of our society and for our own self. We had accomplished a lot.

    • @ldvthe4th
      @ldvthe4th 8 років тому +1

      You Muslims and Christians are so alike, you destroy the knowledge of other cultures and wisdom from other religions through fire and steel and then later claim that it was you who were the preservers of said things..

    • @Sorenzo
      @Sorenzo 7 років тому +1

      You're being very unreasonable. She didn't specifically mention Muslims burning monasteries. She was referring to Vikings (yeah, we did pillage some monasteries...). And from the contemporary Christian perspective, they didn't know Muslims would go on to preserve the knowledge. They just knew formerly Christian areas were being taken over (and I'm pretty sure there were fewer monasteries left in 900 CE than had been around in 700 CE - not every Muslim is an angel, you know.)
      You should try to look at her sentence in context before throwing a hissy-fit.

  • @tomp2008
    @tomp2008 8 років тому +2

    she's very pleasing to the eyes

  • @JasonON
    @JasonON Рік тому

    So many assumptions and a Christo-centeic view of the world and nature. I would have thought we'd see a more objective lecture.

  • @coimindeburka7716
    @coimindeburka7716 4 роки тому

    Closest to Hogwarts I'll ever get.

  • @EliezerPennywhistler
    @EliezerPennywhistler 11 років тому

    No she's not. Read the title out loud.

  • @adawood133
    @adawood133 11 років тому

    Science had been improved in Islamic countries in the mid-ages.

  • @summerstone7
    @summerstone7 13 років тому

    interesting, i like how she talks of these things, something i haven t seen in toronto universities,almost well,looking at mystical,subjective...[i may also say she is attractive]
    thanks

  • @NavinJohnson90
    @NavinJohnson90 14 років тому

    goddamn!

  • @zarkoff45
    @zarkoff45 13 років тому

    People do claim to have religious experiences here on youtube. You can see what she's talking about by watching religious youtubers talk about religion and try to fit it into a modern world:
    watch?v=zahFKGVpQGg

  • @miguelchippsinteligente6072
    @miguelchippsinteligente6072 4 роки тому

    Tesla referenced human energy 🌪👻jesus christ referenced living waters 💎🤍science described water memory 🌊👨‍🎓existence reflecting psychologically,psalms16:24 k,j 💎🤍👨‍🎓historical fact jesus christ 🗽💞🌪

  • @EliezerPennywhistler
    @EliezerPennywhistler 11 років тому

    I wonder if her husband ever noticed? Whaddya think, Bozo?

  • @robertkrebs9109
    @robertkrebs9109 10 років тому +1

    Soooooooo HOT!!

  • @TheTreck116
    @TheTreck116 15 років тому

    Jesus! This is the longest UA-cam vid ive seen! I wont be watching till the end lol.

  • @saffisarwary9744
    @saffisarwary9744 11 років тому +2

    she is a hot teacher lol :) ahhahahah

  • @rustyxof
    @rustyxof 6 років тому

    Is she allergic to the word Philosophy?

  • @Jane20121985
    @Jane20121985 10 років тому +2

    So this is how kids get indoctrinated today huh.....

    • @Sorenzo
      @Sorenzo 7 років тому +1

      She's supposed to waste valuable time pointing out that she believes science is better than magic? She's not trying to coddle your pride. Sorry, snowflake. ;)

  • @telectronicguy
    @telectronicguy 13 років тому

    boooorriiing

  • @RavenMeer
    @RavenMeer 11 років тому +1

    administrative issues to 5:09
    ie, how to get an A, What parts of course are compulsory, how the mid term test is structured and run.

  • @lukeyznaga7627
    @lukeyznaga7627 2 роки тому

    kind of a distraction. she has a fantastic body and outfit there.

  • @Waltham1892
    @Waltham1892 7 років тому

    If her thesis is that knowledge was preserved and refined by passing through the realms of religion and magic to arrive at science, then I agree with her.
    However, if the believes that this is still a useful process, as opposed to having been a evolutionary one, then I can't agree with her.

  • @Dxmpr72
    @Dxmpr72 12 років тому +2

    hot for teacher! damn, i would never miss that class