I love the fact that the safeties are actual physical keys. During the Cylon war, the Battlestars were built with all of their systems independent of each other so the Cylons couldn't hack the ships. I love the blending of old wet-navy tech and sci-fi!
@@OptimusWombat Don't you think they'd always be shooting nukes at the Cylon baseships? I dunno..... From my perspective, they had the wrong approach throughout most of the show. They were heavily outnumbered and should have taken up much different tactics. (e.g. guerilla) Use Pegasus to manufacture jump capable ships or repurpose some of the crappier colony ships to be bombs. Do recon to find where baseships where, jump the bomb ship in at close ranger and detonate. ah well, still liked the show and it holds up well overall.
The bigger strike to the Cylons here was them being shaken because suddenly the Significant Seven didn't operate through concensus anymore. That caused a rift in their controlling body which was more damaging than any nuclear warhead would have been. The "bluff" was worth it.
Along the series we see events take place in a way that truly looks like it's planned ahead. Like with the cylon killing virus. Had they gone with the genocide route and some cylons survived, they would be united in hate towards humanity and the cycle would continue. Here, had Adama launched the nukes, the sparks of the cylon civil war wouldn't have ignited and mankind would have been doomed.
I also realised only now that the same thing was happening on Galactica, but mirrored. There was no consensus, Adama was exercising his command, and the others were forced to follow despite their obvious reservations. D'anna showed a brief flash of the same mentality and it terrified the others. The writing on this show was so, so good.
Adama never let his subordinates and friends read his mind, because he needed to trick the enemies. To trick his enemies, first he must tricks his friends.
@@scotttild When I watched the pilot I was totally turned off that they made Starbuck a female. I wasn't interested in the series until I unintentionally watched the episode with the Cylon Raider "Scar". I became hooked and fell in love with Starbuck,..and not just her looks. I have now seen the entire series and spin offs at least 3 times. I can't imagine Starbuck being cast and written any other way.
@@stevenjeffrey4637 It was not horrible it was just unnecessary. It was done to be PC and that’s what turned me off. Its still a good overall series though.
Yeah, it's gonna break my heart when we lose Edward, such an astonishing actor and I only know him for this one role, but by god did he make it his own! So say we all!!
What’s scary serious is that Adama _would absolutely obliterate_ the face of the planet and his son on it. As soon as the Cylons detected they actually uploaded targeting packages to the nukes it wasn’t a bluff anymore.
@@Kingkongphil It varies really, in the case of this show it really just means a set of targeting coordinates. In real life, however, it is documentation, geographic maps, location of structures and enemy movements, etc. A lot of movies and tv have different meanings for those two words.
They most likely realized it when the Galactica rotated to launch, a maneuver that exposed its more vulnerable underside to the Basestars surrounding it.
Adama would launch the one ring on a space ship into the sun (which would be hotter than the volcano at Mordor) thus he would destroy the Ring. The end!!!
@@matthewgaviola8885 I heard he had trouble launching ship to ship missiles while on the Valkyrie as his ball‘s gravitational field would pull on them.
At the time, people complained the 3rd season was not in the same level of 1 and 2. But we had Adama Maneuver, Pegasus saving the day and this moment. A testament of an amazing show.
You forgot an emotional moment like Adama comforting Kat before her death. Adama threathening to kill Tyrols wife. And the whole court drama at the end of the season :) All in all the first three seasons for awesome! The 4th was good but not as good as the first three!
"unfortunately we are bluffing" "Are we" oh love it. I don't think I'd ever want to play poker against Adama. 😎 I also live how they readied tubes 1-10 but only had like 3-4 nukes left.
At the beginning of the show we are made aware of, I Think, 4 nuclear warheads aboard Galactica. However I believe that this number is only relevant in context of Her becoming a museum. Further I think that the engineering facilities can operate as a Breeder delivering high quantities of fissionable Material, as it is stated that Galactica is equipped to restock armaments at any given time.
I love that little detail at the end as Three is strutting away from the group; the Six is visibly frustrated, pulls her hand out of the data stream and aggressively flicks her hand to dry it off.
@@grigturcescu6190 It was after she was resuplied by Pegasus.. also after New Caprica she inherited Peggy's air wing and i want to think that Lee tought of unload some of Pegasus warheads on the fleet before he sent she to her demise over New Caprica
She was designed as the toughest aircraft carrier in space,if we compared Galactica to our aircraft carriers which one would she resemble as far as toughness,but I imagine if Edward as Adam'a,and Patrick as Picard had really bad days,and got in a fight who would win the grudge match,and which ship,and human crew would die first,this is why the Japanese are scary,and became kamikaze pilots in ww2 they knew,and honored their deaths,must of learned this from their samurai ancestors,no wonder George Lucas in star wars used them as human templates for the Jedi,another human group unafraid to die were the vikings,no wonder we're still here as humans got all these groups in our gene pool,so we refuse to die,but keep going,no wonder q as a eternal liked Picard,and messing with him,he felt it was a fun challenge. to take on a human who never quits,now wonder spock liked kirk more than Picard,Kirk as a human was more relaxed than Picard,imagine if khan in star trek 2 had to take on Picard instead of Kirk,khan would be toast,and really scared cause Picard would find away to make khan's last days painful,unlike kirk who seemed to play with khan,Picard wouldn't play with khan he would just clean his clock for a couple of weeks,or let worf just kill khan straight out,but if Patrick,and Edward wanted a space war I would pay to watch those series of wars between their characters,might really put fear in even Darth Vader,and he was just a burnt out human in armor with a sword.
Got Peacock TV for a month just so my wife and I could rewatch the whole series with our son. It was great to share something we loved so much with him. Thank you to all of the people involved in this series. So say we all.
Or if that insubordinate son of his had done his frakking job and kept the NEW, INTACT battlestar with the frakking factories onboard out of the fight like he was ordered to! The Galactica was expendable. The Pegasus was not!
@@knghtbrd Galactica may have been expendable, but Adama wasn't, you can't replace a leader like him, especially with someone with his level of military tactical knowledge and command experience, who can command immense loyalty and respect among those under him. There is no question that Humanity wouldn't have survived if Adama hadn't been there to lead them
And people say he was bluffing. He was seconds away from turning that key. Only reason he didn't fire was that he figured his forces could handle a single contingent or centurions, but all 6 touching down was the same as losing the eye.
The entire scene is perfection, the tension, soundtrack acting.. Love the moment where Roslin asks what Adama is doing. He responds, in the the most subtle yet resolute tone, and you see it on her face, she knows him well enough to understand this is not one of those times to even remotely test him. She's done that at other turns but this one she knew better. You can see it a 2nd time when he says to disable launch safeties and she gives a sigh as if to state "he really is not bluffing"
The Cylons should have realized that Adama wasn't bluffing when he rolled the Galactica into position to fire the nukes from its dorsal hull. This presented the MUCH weaker and less armored belly of his ship to the Cylons, which should have tipped them off that he was NOT frakking around, as no competent or sane commander would put their ship at such a disadvantage for nothing.
Honestly, I want to see Adama go against Picard, Sisko or Janeway in a war games simulation. Then again that might be like watching a locomotive go against a prius. No disrespect to the prius, just different requirements for different situations.
@@danielhaire6677 Upon further thought I wouldn't put any real money down until I did more in depth research, BSG is far more adherent to real world principles and Treks combat revolves around fantastical technology.
@@thesenceofmorality I was thinking from the terms of if I gave them ships of the same technology. Janeway was never especially competent with her fights against the Borg (the most dangerous opponent in Star Trek) being about being able to run away successfully. Picard was an expert Strategist and Tactician who rarely showed that side to many due to his preference for DIplomacy. And there was a reason that Sisko was tapped to be the head of Strategic Operations for the entire Beta Quadrant during the Dominion War.
Not at all. Since the enemy can detect nukes and the opening of missile doors, and who knows what else, it's necessary to go through the motions of any threat
Remember the pilot: "Get me something to shoot!" There was nuclear ordinance there. Not much, but it was there. Also, Pegasus might've had some. Some of that may have been transferred to the Galactica before the New Caprica occupation and Lee proving he was not fit for command.
@@knghtbrd Also these are air-to-ground not ship-to-ship variants, I imagine they had more of the latter considering how rarely you need to nuke a planet versus like a basestar.
There's kind of a mix of things in my mind here. First, many missile systems on real world fighters have a yield range that can be configured prior to loading. They can decide how much boom boom to put in them. And that certain missiles can even have different kinds of warheads fitted. The second is that, again real world, several nations maintain some number of ICBM long-range ground-to-ground delivery systems preloaded with nuclear warheads. And that a staple of Cold War tropes at least was the nuclear sub with the ICBMs requiring two keys activated at the same time in different places by different people as a measure against some one individual nut firing one. So if Galactica managed to pick up warheads at Ragnar Anchorage … what security would they have been under? I mean, that has to be where they came from because the Galactica needed "something to shoot" otherwise and you don't just leave nuclear weapons stationed aboard a tourist trap. Once they were aboard Galactica, obviously they would've gone into high security lockup … but they just loaded those warheads on ship to ground missiles? or Were they mounted to those missiles and set up to only be launched by keys? Or what? And do they need those keys to launch them against base stars? The answer is that maybe if I am wondering about these and other science facts (la-lala), I should tell my self it's just a show. I really should relax. 😉
@@knghtbrd I attempted to simplify the missile part because you can honestly write books about the different parts of a missile and how they play a big role. As for the nukes, I assume they are stored in some amount on all Battlestars as a deterrent and also so they can be made ready quickly should war break out. Battlestars would obviously make up the core of any ad hoc fleet or strike group and would be expected to be able to respond to any conceivable situation, including the launch or ground strikes on hostile worlds, perhaps as part of a first strike or just destruction of hostile planetside assets (leaving out talk of ship-to-ship since it doesn't pertain here, and we've seen Battlestars fire nukes at Basestars before). As for how they were made ready so fast, we don't know how long the entire sequence took, so its hard to estimate. But considering they were in VLS type cells, it makes sense they'd have a way to autoload or have them placed into the conveyor quickly. To expand on that a bit further; it would make sense that missiles would be easily configurable from nuclear to conventional etc, because of the nature of shifting battlefield conditions. So no doubt the Battlestars were designed with this in mind. I'd also theorize they had a set amount of nukes aboard since the Galactica wasn't fully decommissioned at the outbreak of the 2nd Cylon war. They probably didn't have as many as say, the Pegasus. But they picked up at least 5 nukes of some sort at Ragnar, and also more than likely inherited Pegasus' inventory of various missiles and warheads. When it comes to whether they could launch swiftly against another ship without going through the whole firing code and key turning, I'd say it would depend on the Battlestar design. We saw Lee being able to set up a nuclear strike without his XO just by giving the proper orders, but this is more likely because the Pegasus is newer and more streamlined (as for the keys & codes, I imagine them being the final component to make the warhead active). It's obvious that Battlestar commanders have the authority to order a nuclear launch using their own authority, but this more likely stems from being a massive capital ship expected to perform on its own for long periods of time without resupply (and as so it would function as a de facto strategic platform to launch every manner of incursions and fleet action under the sun). Imma stop here. TL;DR: They probably had nukes to begin, and inherited all of Pegasus' nukes after its destruction by the inept son.
This was such a great series filled with wonderful, believable moments all through it. I think for me anyways what made it even more believable is that it was relatable. The Cylons stuffed themselves right from the start with poor information. If you think about it. The Cylons attacked the colonies on the day of the decommissioning of the Galactica. If they had of waited even a week longer. Adama and none of the rest of the crew would have been onboard and the ship would not have been a threat. Another point a lot of people seem to forget that because Galactica was about to be decommissioned that some of her armor and weapons had already been removed. True the other Battlestars (Pegasus etc) were newer and much more advanced. But, personally I wonder were they truly as powerful. My feeling is yes, they had the weaponry, yes they had the capability. But i do not think they ever had the amount of amour and protection that Galactica had and more importantly they never had Adama in command. The only really poor decision I felt that was made in the series was the loss of the Pegasus, that was unnecessary and not needed it could have jumped away after Galactica got out. But, I also know the shows budget could not stretch to having a second Battlestar in the show which was a pity. And, I guess it did make for a dramatic episode.
I don't think it was so much a budget issue as a story issue that the Pegasus had to go. Keeping it in the fleet would have changed the dynamic of the story too much since the show is about a single warship protecting the last of humanity. Every decision has to be based on the fact that loosing the Galactica will result in the death of the fleet. All risks have to be measured against that. The Pegsus would give them the means to wage war on the Cylons rather than just running from them for survival. There's also the issue of it dividing the fleet and risking a human civil war since by the time it joined the fleet the Pegasus was pretty much acting as a pirate ship by looting civilian ships, conscripting their crews to forced labor and abandoning what's left. Much of it's crew would have been considered criminals or pirates by the rest of the fleet, trials would be required, people would flock to both sides and they'd lose focus from the Cylon threat. It had to go to keep the story of the search for Earth intact.
I love that no one questions Adama, the closest they get is when the President just asks if he's willing to sacrifice his son, and that's not even directly opposing him, she really is asking a legitimate question. Shows how much trust (and fear) they have in him.
Such a great sequence, in an overall awesome series. Yeah, it had some mis-steps, but as a whole- really exceptional, especially considering the effects were for a TV SHOW.
I think it's a bit over-complex for use in combat, you see in other scenes how much the CIC shakes crashes around whenever Galactica is under heavy fire. Is that why Galactica didn't use her nukes during the Battle of New Caprica?
@@MozTS no in active engagement they would never risk opening the launch bays ... which is why the "speedy" launch method isnt needed as these arent ship to ship launchers intended to be used while under fire.
I think the Ship-to-Ship variety of nukes has less procedures than the Ship-to-Ground variety given that one is probably done in the heat of combat (i.e. the Pegasus prepping to nuke the Guardian Basestar was markedly faster than the Galactica here). On top of that, the procedures are usually circumvented by the fact that the nukes are usually carried by Vipers or Raptors rather than launched by the Battlestar itself.
I’m watching this clip 16-17 years from the original airing, and the response is still the same, “god this is so good!” (Accompanied with a fist pump) The music drums really ratchet up the tension.
This is by far the best put together sci-fi movie/series I've ever seen !!!!! And I'm a big time fan of star trek. The original star trek that is. The acting, plot, special effects are all spot on and very realistic. If mankind lives long enough to figure out quantum computing (Computer code on & off at the same time ) we will all certainly die. Machines will spawn their own consciousness and will certainly try to destroy all of mankind. We are the (VIRUS) to planet. Either the virus dies, (burns itself out) or the host dies.!!!!! No other way about it.
A Virus doesn‘t heal it‘s host to improve it‘s chance of survival, a Virus can’t ask itself if it is a Virus, a Virus can’t make a conscious choice. Humanity is by far not a Virus.
Adama was NOT bluffing. HE would explode the planet whit is son there if he had to. Remember... Dont mess whit Commander Adama. Also this show his a MASTERPIECE. One of the best show i had the privilege to watch. PS: I have to remember to NEVER play poker whit him LMFAO.
Adama owned this showdown, but Three's calm insistence on holding her course was SO compelling. "They won't launch against just one ship" lives in my mind rent free to this day
This was literally the best science-fiction show that ever was. I remember being angry that there was only half seasons, and I had to wait sometimes up to two years to see the reveal on the episode with the Pegasus, I literally got up off my couch and walked up to the television and and stood there watching as Starbuck showed up. I was really sad that Caprica sucked as bad as it did, but I really did think it was turning out to be a cool show in the end. Too bad it was canceled.
I see this and _wish_ there was a 'The Lost Fleet' adaptation made to the same calibre. Olmos would have been too old to play Blackjack Geary, but he would need to be cast with someone possessing exactly the same degree of conviction combined with an equal measure of humanity. I must admit while reading the books I never but pictured 'Dauntless' as any other ship than Galactica and the larger battleships as Pegasus-clones. Sadly if TLF, TLF:BTF, TLF:O were ever made we would just get another Halo-quality mistake. 'Oh, we didn't read the books. We captured their essence in a new story that didn't focus on all that insulting masculinity and male privallege.'
Watching today 20/4/2021. The 6 o'clock GMT UA-cam notification. Exciting, edge of the seat stuff literally (Couch). Another world of Battlestar Galactica after fulling knowing the story from a small child with the graphic book. So, letting it sink in with age the new enchanting spectacular series we have now is gold itself for me. Thanks, guys & gals for the Art. Well done. Actor, on at Christmas etc?
The cylon voting tactics are so dumb.. they are no better then humans, sometimes worse..like in the cylon civil war.. This scene proves it big time lol.. D'ianna is the only one in this scene having guts😂
@@aztalyido I don't think they would take that chance, especially since Adama does not bluff. He would fire a nuke right before the Galactica is destroyed, he would have nothing to lose.
Ya it’s dumb, and the whole logistics with the Cylon War is really clunky when you think about it, but I’d like to think it shows how the Cylons are flawed despite trying to be “perfect”
I got to say the Blonde that stood her ground against Admiral Adama had more 'balls' that the rest of the cylon council in this sence. She really gave admiral Adama a ran for his money in that sense she could have been Brillant Military officer and leader to the cylons. Sadly the 1's didn't see it that way and boxed her model and series.
It had to end sometime and they'd about played it out. What would've been cool would be to see Blood and Chrome and Caprica go where they meant go with them.
I'm genuinely curious about the...complexity of the sequence. Not so much the realism of it (I totally agree the step by step process was as realistic as a civilian, non-naval, non-air force, total laymen would recognize) but it seems to me that Colonials/Cylons were much more nuke-happy then what real world people are and would think the procedure itself would be shorter to reflect that. As in, "Put ship into nuclear strike position...launch!" kind of short.
Smallest weapons of any Titan-class warship from Eve Online has 10 times more power than a nuke like this, if they mean of creating a hell over a planet, they would just simply make a single shot
I love the fact that the safeties are actual physical keys. During the Cylon war, the Battlestars were built with all of their systems independent of each other so the Cylons couldn't hack the ships. I love the blending of old wet-navy tech and sci-fi!
When they get into a battle, they don't have to do all that, though? Seemed like it only existed in this scene for the dramatic effect......
@@beyerch it's because these were specifically nukes. They wouldn't go through all of those safety protocols for conventional weaponry.
@@beyerch No different to launching a ballistic missile, procedures / checks / counter checks.
@@OptimusWombat Don't you think they'd always be shooting nukes at the Cylon baseships? I dunno.....
From my perspective, they had the wrong approach throughout most of the show.
They were heavily outnumbered and should have taken up much different tactics. (e.g. guerilla)
Use Pegasus to manufacture jump capable ships or repurpose some of the crappier colony ships to be bombs. Do recon to find where baseships where, jump the bomb ship in at close ranger and detonate.
ah well, still liked the show and it holds up well overall.
@@beyerch you obviously didn't watch the show (or at least not closely enough) if you think they were "always" shooting nukes at the Cylons.
"xo, please input your firing code"
Saul: *timidly types in '1234'*
Adama: "That's the stupidest fraking code I've ever heard of! It's the kind of code an idiot would have on his luggage!"
@@starflame34 Ah, another man of culture, I see.
The bigger strike to the Cylons here was them being shaken because suddenly the Significant Seven didn't operate through concensus anymore. That caused a rift in their controlling body which was more damaging than any nuclear warhead would have been. The "bluff" was worth it.
Along the series we see events take place in a way that truly looks like it's planned ahead. Like with the cylon killing virus. Had they gone with the genocide route and some cylons survived, they would be united in hate towards humanity and the cycle would continue. Here, had Adama launched the nukes, the sparks of the cylon civil war wouldn't have ignited and mankind would have been doomed.
I also realised only now that the same thing was happening on Galactica, but mirrored. There was no consensus, Adama was exercising his command, and the others were forced to follow despite their obvious reservations. D'anna showed a brief flash of the same mentality and it terrified the others.
The writing on this show was so, so good.
Adama never let his subordinates and friends read his mind, because he needed to trick the enemies. To trick his enemies, first he must tricks his friends.
"If we don't know what we are doing, the enemy certainly cannot predict our actions" - Anonymous, US Army
Especially not after New Caprica
He didn't trick Number 3 though.
He wasn't bluffing.
No trick, he was going to do it
They couldn't have cast a better Adama. Olmos is a BOSS!
@@scotttild When I watched the pilot I was totally turned off that they made Starbuck a female. I wasn't interested in the series until I unintentionally watched the episode with the Cylon Raider "Scar". I became hooked and fell in love with Starbuck,..and not just her looks. I have now seen the entire series and spin offs at least 3 times. I can't imagine Starbuck being cast and written any other way.
@@stevenjeffrey4637 It was not horrible it was just unnecessary. It was done to be PC and that’s what turned me off. Its still a good overall series though.
@@scotttild From the President to Starbuck to the Cylons,..most of the really strong characters were women, and you are right,..it was definitely PC.
So say we all!
Yeah, it's gonna break my heart when we lose Edward, such an astonishing actor and I only know him for this one role, but by god did he make it his own! So say we all!!
What’s scary serious is that Adama _would absolutely obliterate_ the face of the planet and his son on it. As soon as the Cylons detected they actually uploaded targeting packages to the nukes it wasn’t a bluff anymore.
Exactly. It never was a bluff. The toasters learned that Adama absolutely won't quit and he won't lose.
To bad he didn't actually fire, yea it was one ship, but even one ship can cause quite a lot of problems.
What is a targeting package?
@@Kingkongphil It varies really, in the case of this show it really just means a set of targeting coordinates. In real life, however, it is documentation, geographic maps, location of structures and enemy movements, etc.
A lot of movies and tv have different meanings for those two words.
They most likely realized it when the Galactica rotated to launch, a maneuver that exposed its more vulnerable underside to the Basestars surrounding it.
Yes, Adama would simply walk into Mordor.
Walk? No no no. He would stroll into Mordor like he owned the place and was simply coming home.
Sauron would get up and be like: "gtfo!" only for the Galactica to launch several nukes at his face :D
Nah, he'd drop a Battlestar out of the frakking sky right on top of them.
All hail the legendary Adama maneuver.
Adama would launch the one ring on a space ship into the sun (which would be hotter than the volcano at Mordor) thus he would destroy the Ring. The end!!!
no wonder adama commands a battlestar, no other ship in the galaxy can hold his massive balls
I hear the much smaller Battlestar Valkyrie’s engines were put under more strain when he was posted to it.
@@matthewgaviola8885 I heard he had trouble launching ship to ship missiles while on the Valkyrie as his ball‘s gravitational field would pull on them.
@@matthewgaviola8885 when he stepped on, they needed to adjust the trim and stability.
@@mbpaintballa makes one fear the consequences of him stepping on an Orion Class Battlestar again
"Are we!?"
He's so frakking badass! I love this character.
At the time, people complained the 3rd season was not in the same level of 1 and 2. But we had Adama Maneuver, Pegasus saving the day and this moment. A testament of an amazing show.
You forgot an emotional moment like Adama comforting Kat before her death.
Adama threathening to kill Tyrols wife.
And the whole court drama at the end of the season :)
All in all the first three seasons for awesome!
The 4th was good but not as good as the first three!
@@petarpavlek6768 To be honest, I love the first half of the 4th season, specially the premiere and the finale.
Mid writers strike too
Well, it wasn't. But it was still some of the best frakking TV ever made.
"unfortunately we are bluffing"
"Are we" oh love it. I don't think I'd ever want to play poker against Adama. 😎
I also live how they readied tubes 1-10 but only had like 3-4 nukes left.
They did tubes 4-10 and probably inherited nukes from the Pegasus when it resupplied them.
At the beginning of the show we are made aware of, I Think, 4 nuclear warheads aboard Galactica.
However I believe that this number is only relevant in context of Her becoming a museum.
Further I think that the engineering facilities can operate as a Breeder delivering high quantities of fissionable Material, as it is stated that Galactica is equipped to restock armaments at any given time.
Adama ordered tubes 4-10 loaded.
Tigh's and Roslin's faces. Priceless.
@@HrLBolle They got 5 from the resupply station and later gave 1 to Baltar for the Cylon Detector
Obi wan: You were right master. The negotiations were short.
I love that little detail at the end as Three is strutting away from the group; the Six is visibly frustrated, pulls her hand out of the data stream and aggressively flicks her hand to dry it off.
Watched that episode last night. Every few years I have to binge watch this masterpiece.
I've watched it 6 times I guess. I watch it once every year.
That's one fine proud name you've got there, brother.
This show was better than any star trek series
Despite all she’s been through. The Galactica can still hold the cylons at her mercy.
A nuke doesn't care how tough the ship that launches it is.
@@TheNerdForAllSeasons But those who the nuke is being launched at care.
@@TheNerdForAllSeasons that's not the point. having nukes is part of Galactica and one of many reason it can pose a threat.
@@grigturcescu6190 It was after she was resuplied by Pegasus.. also after New Caprica she inherited Peggy's air wing and i want to think that Lee tought of unload some of Pegasus warheads on the fleet before he sent she to her demise over New Caprica
She was designed as the toughest aircraft carrier in space,if we compared Galactica to our aircraft carriers which one would she resemble as far as toughness,but I imagine if Edward as Adam'a,and Patrick as Picard had really bad days,and got in a fight who would win the grudge match,and which ship,and human crew would die first,this is why the Japanese are scary,and became kamikaze pilots in ww2 they knew,and honored their deaths,must of learned this from their samurai ancestors,no wonder George Lucas in star wars used them as human templates for the Jedi,another human group unafraid to die were the vikings,no wonder we're still here as humans got all these groups in our gene pool,so we refuse to die,but keep going,no wonder q as a eternal liked Picard,and messing with him,he felt it was a fun challenge. to take on a human who never quits,now wonder spock liked kirk more than Picard,Kirk as a human was more relaxed than Picard,imagine if khan in star trek 2 had to take on Picard instead of Kirk,khan would be toast,and really scared cause Picard would find away to make khan's last days painful,unlike kirk who seemed to play with khan,Picard wouldn't play with khan he would just clean his clock for a couple of weeks,or let worf just kill khan straight out,but if Patrick,and Edward wanted a space war I would pay to watch those series of wars between their characters,might really put fear in even Darth Vader,and he was just a burnt out human in armor with a sword.
"admiral what are you doing?"
"getting ready to nuke the planet"
lol
And the tone of voice screams "What do you think i'm doing"
Only way to be sure.
@@annoyedok321 Whoa. Hold on one second. This installation has a substantial dollar value attached to it.
Got Peacock TV for a month just so my wife and I could rewatch the whole series with our son.
It was great to share something we loved so much with him.
Thank you to all of the people involved in this series.
So say we all.
so say we all
Going through the box sets one last time myself
Imagine how much of a threat Adama would have been with more than one Battlestar.
Well he did have two at one point
@@Lightingwarrior I meant at this particular moment.
Or if that insubordinate son of his had done his frakking job and kept the NEW, INTACT battlestar with the frakking factories onboard out of the fight like he was ordered to! The Galactica was expendable. The Pegasus was not!
@@knghtbrd Galactica may have been expendable, but Adama wasn't, you can't replace a leader like him, especially with someone with his level of military tactical knowledge and command experience, who can command immense loyalty and respect among those under him. There is no question that Humanity wouldn't have survived if Adama hadn't been there to lead them
@@knghtbrd He drove the ship directly into the enemy line of fire without *any* fighter cover.
I loved how the Cavils were “meh, he’s bluffing”. Up until he was a twist away from using the planet
And people say he was bluffing. He was seconds away from turning that key.
Only reason he didn't fire was that he figured his forces could handle a single contingent or centurions, but all 6 touching down was the same as losing the eye.
Love the look on Saul's face. He's like, "Oh frak! He IS serious!"
The entire scene is perfection, the tension, soundtrack acting.. Love the moment where Roslin asks what Adama is doing. He responds, in the the most subtle yet resolute tone, and you see it on her face, she knows him well enough to understand this is not one of those times to even remotely test him. She's done that at other turns but this one she knew better. You can see it a 2nd time when he says to disable launch safeties and she gives a sigh as if to state "he really is not bluffing"
Roslin: "Unfortunately, we are bluffing."
Adama: "Are we?"
Can you imagine a two-word reply holding so much badassery?
I think my favorite part was the look on Roslin's face.
How about one word? The Laconian "If."
How about a one-word reply.
The Hunt for Red October
Bart Mancuso to Marko Ramius.
"You know you're heading right for that torpedo?"
"Yes."
This scene is so fraking intense
rivals the "I'm getting my men" scene
I wouldn't want to play poker with Adama.
You would lose the second you sat down in your chair.
Lol that's what I said too Offbeaten
"Remind me never to play poker with you Adama."
The Cylons should have realized that Adama wasn't bluffing when he rolled the Galactica into position to fire the nukes from its dorsal hull. This presented the MUCH weaker and less armored belly of his ship to the Cylons, which should have tipped them off that he was NOT frakking around, as no competent or sane commander would put their ship at such a disadvantage for nothing.
Adama never bluffs, he is always prepared to carry out his threats
Honestly, I want to see Adama go against Picard, Sisko or Janeway in a war games simulation. Then again that might be like watching a locomotive go against a prius. No disrespect to the prius, just different requirements for different situations.
Janeway would go down weaker than the aforementioned Prius. Sisko or Picard could likely give Adama a run for his money.
@@danielhaire6677 Upon further thought I wouldn't put any real money down until I did more in depth research, BSG is far more adherent to real world principles and Treks combat revolves around fantastical technology.
@@thesenceofmorality I was thinking from the terms of if I gave them ships of the same technology. Janeway was never especially competent with her fights against the Borg (the most dangerous opponent in Star Trek) being about being able to run away successfully. Picard was an expert Strategist and Tactician who rarely showed that side to many due to his preference for DIplomacy. And there was a reason that Sisko was tapped to be the head of Strategic Operations for the entire Beta Quadrant during the Dominion War.
Thrawn.
@@linejumper8204 Thrawn owns everyone.
Just wow. Yeah adama is such a badass he would do it
Tyrol and Anders would be in for a surprise.
Not at all. Since the enemy can detect nukes and the opening of missile doors, and who knows what else, it's necessary to go through the motions of any threat
Dude the writing in this show was next level dude. Nothing today compares.
It's interesting that a museum ship like the Galactica still has the nuclear keys and launch codes.
Remember the pilot: "Get me something to shoot!" There was nuclear ordinance there. Not much, but it was there. Also, Pegasus might've had some. Some of that may have been transferred to the Galactica before the New Caprica occupation and Lee proving he was not fit for command.
@@knghtbrd Also these are air-to-ground not ship-to-ship variants, I imagine they had more of the latter considering how rarely you need to nuke a planet versus like a basestar.
There's kind of a mix of things in my mind here. First, many missile systems on real world fighters have a yield range that can be configured prior to loading. They can decide how much boom boom to put in them. And that certain missiles can even have different kinds of warheads fitted.
The second is that, again real world, several nations maintain some number of ICBM long-range ground-to-ground delivery systems preloaded with nuclear warheads. And that a staple of Cold War tropes at least was the nuclear sub with the ICBMs requiring two keys activated at the same time in different places by different people as a measure against some one individual nut firing one.
So if Galactica managed to pick up warheads at Ragnar Anchorage … what security would they have been under? I mean, that has to be where they came from because the Galactica needed "something to shoot" otherwise and you don't just leave nuclear weapons stationed aboard a tourist trap.
Once they were aboard Galactica, obviously they would've gone into high security lockup … but they just loaded those warheads on ship to ground missiles? or Were they mounted to those missiles and set up to only be launched by keys? Or what? And do they need those keys to launch them against base stars?
The answer is that maybe if I am wondering about these and other science facts (la-lala), I should tell my self it's just a show. I really should relax. 😉
@@knghtbrd I attempted to simplify the missile part because you can honestly write books about the different parts of a missile and how they play a big role.
As for the nukes, I assume they are stored in some amount on all Battlestars as a deterrent and also so they can be made ready quickly should war break out.
Battlestars would obviously make up the core of any ad hoc fleet or strike group and would be expected to be able to respond to any conceivable situation, including the launch or ground strikes on hostile worlds, perhaps as part of a first strike or just destruction of hostile planetside assets (leaving out talk of ship-to-ship since it doesn't pertain here, and we've seen Battlestars fire nukes at Basestars before).
As for how they were made ready so fast, we don't know how long the entire sequence took, so its hard to estimate. But considering they were in VLS type cells, it makes sense they'd have a way to autoload or have them placed into the conveyor quickly. To expand on that a bit further; it would make sense that missiles would be easily configurable from nuclear to conventional etc, because of the nature of shifting battlefield conditions. So no doubt the Battlestars were designed with this in mind.
I'd also theorize they had a set amount of nukes aboard since the Galactica wasn't fully decommissioned at the outbreak of the 2nd Cylon war. They probably didn't have as many as say, the Pegasus. But they picked up at least 5 nukes of some sort at Ragnar, and also more than likely inherited Pegasus' inventory of various missiles and warheads.
When it comes to whether they could launch swiftly against another ship without going through the whole firing code and key turning, I'd say it would depend on the Battlestar design.
We saw Lee being able to set up a nuclear strike without his XO just by giving the proper orders, but this is more likely because the Pegasus is newer and more streamlined (as for the keys & codes, I imagine them being the final component to make the warhead active).
It's obvious that Battlestar commanders have the authority to order a nuclear launch using their own authority, but this more likely stems from being a massive capital ship expected to perform on its own for long periods of time without resupply (and as so it would function as a de facto strategic platform to launch every manner of incursions and fleet action under the sun).
Imma stop here. TL;DR: They probably had nukes to begin, and inherited all of Pegasus' nukes after its destruction by the inept son.
Top notch acting all around! Perfectly cast roles
Best series ever made.
This was such a great series filled with wonderful, believable moments all through it. I think for me anyways what made it even more believable is that it was relatable. The Cylons stuffed themselves right from the start with poor information. If you think about it. The Cylons attacked the colonies on the day of the decommissioning of the Galactica. If they had of waited even a week longer. Adama and none of the rest of the crew would have been onboard and the ship would not have been a threat. Another point a lot of people seem to forget that because Galactica was about to be decommissioned that some of her armor and weapons had already been removed. True the other Battlestars (Pegasus etc) were newer and much more advanced. But, personally I wonder were they truly as powerful. My feeling is yes, they had the weaponry, yes they had the capability. But i do not think they ever had the amount of amour and protection that Galactica had and more importantly they never had Adama in command. The only really poor decision I felt that was made in the series was the loss of the Pegasus, that was unnecessary and not needed it could have jumped away after Galactica got out. But, I also know the shows budget could not stretch to having a second Battlestar in the show which was a pity. And, I guess it did make for a dramatic episode.
I don't think it was so much a budget issue as a story issue that the Pegasus had to go. Keeping it in the fleet would have changed the dynamic of the story too much since the show is about a single warship protecting the last of humanity. Every decision has to be based on the fact that loosing the Galactica will result in the death of the fleet. All risks have to be measured against that. The Pegsus would give them the means to wage war on the Cylons rather than just running from them for survival.
There's also the issue of it dividing the fleet and risking a human civil war since by the time it joined the fleet the Pegasus was pretty much acting as a pirate ship by looting civilian ships, conscripting their crews to forced labor and abandoning what's left. Much of it's crew would have been considered criminals or pirates by the rest of the fleet, trials would be required, people would flock to both sides and they'd lose focus from the Cylon threat.
It had to go to keep the story of the search for Earth intact.
I love the look on Tigh's face during the exchange with Roslin
I love that no one questions Adama, the closest they get is when the President just asks if he's willing to sacrifice his son, and that's not even directly opposing him, she really is asking a legitimate question. Shows how much trust (and fear) they have in him.
Best part about this is that even after watching it I do not know if he was bluffing or not
Such a great sequence, in an overall awesome series. Yeah, it had some mis-steps, but as a whole- really exceptional, especially considering the effects were for a TV SHOW.
Every single episode looks like a two hundred million dollar movie.
@@terrylong8894 and this was HOW LONG AGO?!? Def should’ve won more awards.
@@adambrokas5845 Edward James Olmos, Mary McDonnell, Katee Sackhoff, Paul Hogan and James Callis all should have won acting Emmys.
The best kind of bluff is the one that isn’t a bluff.
Can you upload the scene when Roslin was questioning Baltar and threatened to throw him out the airlock
"Get your mother fraking hands off me!" Yeah... that is a great scene.
@@Snapper314 I DEMAND A FAIR TRIAL!!!!
I like the nuclear arming scene. In the third season finale they arm nukes there too but we don't see the same procedure as what they do here.
I think it's a bit over-complex for use in combat, you see in other scenes how much the CIC shakes crashes around whenever Galactica is under heavy fire. Is that why Galactica didn't use her nukes during the Battle of New Caprica?
@@polygondwanaland8390 in an active combat engagement they would be prearmed and ready to go
@@MozTS no in active engagement they would never risk opening the launch bays ... which is why the "speedy" launch method isnt needed as these arent ship to ship launchers intended to be used while under fire.
I think the Ship-to-Ship variety of nukes has less procedures than the Ship-to-Ground variety given that one is probably done in the heat of combat (i.e. the Pegasus prepping to nuke the Guardian Basestar was markedly faster than the Galactica here). On top of that, the procedures are usually circumvented by the fact that the nukes are usually carried by Vipers or Raptors rather than launched by the Battlestar itself.
These are ground-strike missiles; there would be much more concern for collateral damage than an anti-ship strike, and so more significant safeties.
The only time Adama is bluffing is when he says he is just bluffing... :D
Sometimes you have to roll the hard 6.
Bear McCreary's soundtrack is just awesome.
In the galaxy The Adama is all cause even the Sisko needed a mentor at some point.
This show KNEW how to hold your attention, unable to look away! 👀
Diana defying the concensus was worse than if adama had launched the nukes, she sealed the fate for her whole line in one act
Olmos is a total badass.. Lorne Greene would be proud.
Three: He won't launch over one ship, you'll see
Random Six in background: Missile launch!
One, Two, CapSix and Eight: Would you care to revise that?
I’m watching this clip 16-17 years from the original airing, and the response is still the same, “god this is so good!” (Accompanied with a fist pump)
The music drums really ratchet up the tension.
Jesus what a series, why was it finished...BRING IT BACK, loved it, weird as it is, I found this much more believable than Star Trek.
This is by far the best put together sci-fi movie/series I've ever seen !!!!!
And I'm a big time fan of star trek.
The original star trek that is.
The acting, plot, special effects are all spot on and very realistic.
If mankind lives long enough to figure out quantum computing
(Computer code on & off at the same time ) we will all certainly die.
Machines will spawn their own consciousness and will certainly try to destroy all of mankind.
We are the (VIRUS) to planet.
Either the virus dies, (burns itself out) or the host dies.!!!!!
No other way about it.
Nobody cares tim, you wack
A Virus doesn‘t heal it‘s host to improve it‘s chance of survival, a Virus can’t ask itself if it is a Virus, a Virus can’t make a conscious choice. Humanity is by far not a Virus.
"Are we?"
Given their faces, I'm pretty sure everything after "Are we?" is unscripted and authentic.
This puts a whole new light on this scene
Adama was NOT bluffing. HE would explode the planet whit is son there if he had to. Remember... Dont mess whit Commander Adama. Also this show his a MASTERPIECE. One of the best show i had the privilege to watch. PS: I have to remember to NEVER play poker whit him LMFAO.
whit
Adama owned this showdown, but Three's calm insistence on holding her course was SO compelling. "They won't launch against just one ship" lives in my mind rent free to this day
No Dorals or Simons in that Cylon roundtable discussion though. How can there be a consensus to act or not act without them?
Whether it's 4-1 or 4-3, the decision would be the same.
You mean the 5s and the 4s. Simon and Doral were just the names of particular Cylons of those models.
I'm watching this scene and it's amazing but the thing that stands out is how good Lucy Lawless looks as a blond.
(hears those drums)
Man i love this show/story/cast. Think it's time i watch Battlestar Galactica again.
This scene always feels tense
Always a good watch.
He ain't playing
We'll never know if he was bluffing, but I'd never invite him to my poker night...
"What are you doing?"
"Getting ready to nuke the planet."
🤣
Best reboot ever
You'd think by this point the Cylons would've stopped frakking around with Adama...
Ikr!!! After years of hunting/fighting him they would learn that he rarely bluffs
This was literally the best science-fiction show that ever was. I remember being angry that there was only half seasons, and I had to wait sometimes up to two years to see the reveal on the episode with the Pegasus, I literally got up off my couch and walked up to the television and and stood there watching as Starbuck showed up. I was really sad that Caprica sucked as bad as it did, but I really did think it was turning out to be a cool show in the end. Too bad it was canceled.
I see this and _wish_ there was a 'The Lost Fleet' adaptation made to the same calibre. Olmos would have been too old to play Blackjack Geary, but he would need to be cast with someone possessing exactly the same degree of conviction combined with an equal measure of humanity. I must admit while reading the books I never but pictured 'Dauntless' as any other ship than Galactica and the larger battleships as Pegasus-clones.
Sadly if TLF, TLF:BTF, TLF:O were ever made we would just get another Halo-quality mistake. 'Oh, we didn't read the books. We captured their essence in a new story that didn't focus on all that insulting masculinity and male privallege.'
Watching today 20/4/2021. The 6 o'clock GMT UA-cam notification. Exciting, edge of the seat stuff literally (Couch). Another world of Battlestar Galactica after fulling knowing the story from a small child with the graphic book. So, letting it sink in with age the new enchanting spectacular series we have now is gold itself for me. Thanks, guys & gals for the Art. Well done.
Actor, on at Christmas etc?
I can't remember any of that, looks like I've got to schedule a BSG rewatch. ;P
Adama turning bluffing into a military art form as the clyons discover above..
The cylon voting tactics are so dumb.. they are no better then humans, sometimes worse..like in the cylon civil war..
This scene proves it big time lol..
D'ianna is the only one in this scene having guts😂
They know by now adama doesn't bluff he backs up what he says
@@tomlawrence1335 i would start a battle with galactica destracting it and going for the planet.. Its 4vs1
@@aztalyido I don't think they would take that chance, especially since Adama does not bluff. He would fire a nuke right before the Galactica is destroyed, he would have nothing to lose.
@@aztalyido he would of fired the second they tried anything
Ya it’s dumb, and the whole logistics with the Cylon War is really clunky when you think about it, but I’d like to think it shows how the Cylons are flawed despite trying to be “perfect”
What a great grown up show, of a show I grew up on 👍👍
You know she's right. . . it's never over just one ship.
Wars have been started over much less
What actually got me during this scene was Anders' badassery.
Tell me this wasn't one of the Top 5 Best Serialized TV Shows Ever Made. I dare you!
0:32 Tigh’s face lol.
Bring a new show with this type intensity
I got to say the Blonde that stood her ground against Admiral Adama had more 'balls' that the rest of the cylon council in this sence. She really gave admiral Adama a ran for his money in that sense she could have been Brillant Military officer and leader to the cylons. Sadly the 1's didn't see it that way and boxed her model and series.
Are we?
Tension rises by 10,000%
Sooooo goood!!!
does it bug anyone else that "tubes 4 through 10" should be 7 tubes, yet we only see 6? 😅
what tubes? what are you talking about?
To bad the Pegasus wasn’t there😡
Don’t ask questions you don’t want the answers to.
Exactly what happened around the cuba
The TV show like no other
i wish this show had gone on for many more seasons
It had to end sometime and they'd about played it out. What would've been cool would be to see Blood and Chrome and Caprica go where they meant go with them.
@@knghtbrd termination of Caprica was terrible. Shows really need to funded by a new method
That is why they deactivated her.
She was way better at making decisions than than the cavils in my opinion but I love all the cylons
How many times has Galactica been outnumbered by base ships, near to destruction, and we just now get ready to fire nukes?
I'm genuinely curious about the...complexity of the sequence. Not so much the realism of it (I totally agree the step by step process was as realistic as a civilian, non-naval, non-air force, total laymen would recognize) but it seems to me that Colonials/Cylons were much more nuke-happy then what real world people are and would think the procedure itself would be shorter to reflect that. As in, "Put ship into nuclear strike position...launch!" kind of short.
However due to Battlestar was an arsenal gear armed with nuclear weapons and cyber warfare suite prevent a hack by cylons.
but same as macross they had a lot of bullets and squadrons of spacecraft to ensure the victory over the enemies.
Yeah there is a Giant Armada of StarFox Cruisers, and Ships only drone mode.
One thing I never got if you had a limited number of nukes and only need to destroy 1 temple surely you only need 1 possibly 2 nukes for this
He was making a point. Literally "pulling out the big guns". And one nuke could be intercepted, 6, not so easy to do.
They could have been shot down, they weren’t ship to ship „hypersonic“ missiles, they were slow ground targeting ones
The trick to winning a bluff, is not to bluff.
In the end the Cylons learned they were more human than they knew..........
"Are we."
And Galactica's nuclear arsenal is never mentioned again.
Didn’t they use it for the Colony?
Smallest weapons of any Titan-class warship from Eve Online has 10 times more power than a nuke like this, if they mean of creating a hell over a planet, they would just simply make a single shot
Im married to my own version of the Eight series from here mixed with the attitude of Elaan of Troyius from ST TOS. I have ... no complaints :)
lol that monument when a machine think your crazy :) enough to do something ERORR 401 call them back
Worth to watch the series?