"You know who the best managers are? They're the great individual contributors, who never ever want to be a manager, but decide they have to be a manager because no one else is going to be able to do as good a job as them." Very powerful, in all honesty.
He is so true. I call them Email Managers. They check their mails, ask ETAs, notify upper management, setup meetings, ask unnecessary questions and go home. You can’t learn anything from them other than how to sound relevant during meetings.
Email managers is a good description. I call them Yes-men. They're there to report back to their upper-management. They're there to report numbers, but not lead. This is a VERY typical structure in organizations with an owner structure. The site managers doesn't get any incentives for evolving the business. They're rewarded for reporting back to upper management and get to keep their jobs in return. Organizations like that will ALWAYS go under due to advances in technology, because they're stuck in the past. And when the owners realize they can't milk more money out of them they sell the company. The problem isn't the hiring process or the managers, the problem is the organizational structure. I work for a company like this today. I will never ever work for a global company again. A good company HAS to have a passionate leader as the owner. Otherwise you will never ever see long term growth.
That is the job they're given, the outcome expected and all they have time for. Half of them are working managers too, so they're "productive." Most good managers are destroyed.
100! I left a huge company for that reason. Where I’m at now is still good sized but you really own your lane. There aren’t 18 ppl on every call with no one actually being responsible. It’s refreshing.
@@insanecuckooman8342 Apple is full of managers, thousands of them, they only became successful after they had them... Jobs takes the credit, but it was managers and inventors (aka outside companies like samsung) that made their products 'wow'...
My father was the 25th Employee at Apple. R.I.P. Dad - 05/25/1955 - 08/02/2019. I still have your Heathkit Hero1 Robot in storage. I'll get it going when your granddaughter gets a bit older to enjoy it. Glad you got to meet her before you passed. Miss you so much.
Sounds like he left a lot of good memories for you and your family which are cherished. Hope he rests in peace and you and your family are well, safe and happy.
@@troyezell5841 - He had a great morning, normal routine, he wasn't in the best of heath, heart problems etc..., we knew it was just a matter of when... then after about 4 hours he wanted to take a nap... His last words were "just give me 5 more minutes". We all sat around him and said "no problem Dad, take a nap when you want to". 5 Minutes later he was gone. My Mom later said, I don't think he was talking to us, I think he was talking to St. Peter.
Steve Jobs was spot on, driven, and annoyed traditional types to no end. I mean, seriously, how can you expect excellence from a mediocre workforce? They have to be inspired, motivated, and able to share a common vision, which Steve provided.
As a software engineer, I really believed in every single one of the projects I worked on. That is until the company get's sold, investors, owners, and stakeholders walk away millionaires and these hardworking software engineers who worked late hours bringing the dream to fruition get handed a pink slip. Hard to find "passion" when you see this happen over and over in the software engineering world.
+FCBArvin "they always have the opportunity to start something" This is one of the most deceptive argument. Our life, and everything it encompasses, is finite.
+FCBArvin my initial point was that you shouldn't work 70 hour work weeks and expect any substantial bonuses or compensation with your 9-5. Too many software engineers kill themselves working endless hours building a product only to get nothing "extra" in the end. I would argue that there is nothing wrong with working 9-5 as a software engineer, just make sure you keep it 9-5, unless you have equity, stock, or ownership percentage. Otherwise all the extra time at work will be for nothing. I've been there and done that and regret those weekends and late 1AM work days only to make someone else a millionaire. I have no problem making someone else rich, but I won't break my back doing it again.
+Joe Tavarez I don't understand. If there was no gain of any kind in doing it, no contract for a return on your investment why work from 5pm - 1pm for *free*?? Who does this?
@@andrefecteau You obviously aren't smart enough to realize the true workings of the world. Skills differ, utilize the most efficient candidate for the job and you will have better results than the competition.
@@sarahnvanweeren6139 umm I'm a millionaire and scratch golfer..what are you? Troll baby? You are spouting "conventionalism" and obviously your net worth is less than zero and have a shit job? Right?
Branson only hires direct reports for last 20 years. HR has done so since, so he doesn't hire motivated people, HR does. His name might be there, but he manages almost none of his businesses personally.
@Grant Spork. Typical horse manure! Management tales that get passed around and will never work in Technology. Jobs understood one KEY secret to tech and that is talent. The great software engineers are not 10x, not 100x, more like 1000x better than good software engineers. And, they are not interested in platitudes like this. Which is why when talent leaves, technology firms die. Just follow the talent.
@@bigmoose143 Very egotistical comment. Musk seems to run on that mantra, and has out paced most of his competition. Will technology and AI reduce the ego driven software engineer? Manure is needed to grow things well!
I’m a manager at my company and I can say for sure there have been times I managed poorly. I think the key is to be able to admit to yourself when something is not working so you can figure out why and make the necessary adjustments.
The sad thing is that people don't want to hear the truth about management or leadership. You shouldn't have to tell them what to do; they should be passionate enough that they thrive on growing, learning, and duplicating their knowledge with true empowerment for their employees, not just delegation and distribution of work.
The problem is that one bad "apple" (if you will) ruins the bunch. For every passionate, self-motivated person you have on your team, there's probably (at least) two lazy entitled ones that don't pull their own weight. They ruin the dynamic for the good people on the team because they require policing. Thing is, micromanaging is NEVER EVER the answer, though!
I work 23 years in software engineering. I have come to the exact conclusion and opinion. Most people in management positions are useless with no vision, no strategy, no connection with the environment, they just have a nice cv and they know how to talk. You bring them into your project and they become a liability and not an asset, in the sense that the project works better without them. Self management employees that are driven from a common vision are hard to find these days, not only because of lack of the right leadership, but also because it is difficult to find a company with such a culture and generaly because of lack of ethics.
no-one ever learnt anything from Jobs, he rode solo - everyone who's ever worked at Apple knows that. He has the spin, but management had to create products and release them, not Jobs.
@JigaYan guessing you've watched the movie and bought into the lie, rather than talked to people who he treated like slaves and 3rd class citizens, to him pretending apple invented anything himself. Even his famous turtle neck was designed by someone else. There is nothing in 2021 that is inspirational about this man who used Samsung to 'wow' the world with THEIR technogy branded 'apple'. Seen any innovation in the last 15 years of apple... #zero
2:05 "They knew how to manage.. but they didn`t know how to do anything." Wise words.. very true. That's the key element why usually managers are just there to be a pain in the ass and not being of any real help. From my personal experience, it can be seen from a slightly different angle: They choose to (or had to, didn't really have a choice) be managers, precisely because they never were good at actually delivering (doing) anything of value.
+joetube01 i find this to be very true. The corporate world is absolutely infested with people like this and for whatever reason, rather than getting these useless "bozo's" some training in order to be more useful, the companies they work for continue to just keep them there allowing them to be useless.
There will always be transactional junior workers who need a constant eye on. There is no need for managers for knowledge workers. If one finds themselves needing to be managed, they are definitely transactional and dependent.
Amy Ee almost anyone can be that type of manager. Great companies want managers who can do that and yet offer much more to the company and the team they manage.
@@Applecider-Poetry Do tell us “all about Steve...” (this is merely for a cheap laugh, as you clearly didn’t know him, nor know anything about him; but your “skill” (singular!) clearly does consist of “proficiency in tossing out ‘expertise’ wherever Google ‘products’ permit... 😳😖🥴) >> Intelligent inference: Jobs implicitly had ZERO tolerance for - no, it never would occur to begin with - the abhorrent sh!t produced by the Chinese sweatshops like Foxconn that Team Crook (“Tim Cook”) uses to mass-produce the garbage pawned off on us as (cr)Apple ‘hardware’. For you (or anyone) to make such an absurd, wildly false, and typical blanket-statement is nothing more than psychobabble espoused by lobotomized liberals who know nothing about running a business, let alone a once-peerless one like Jobs’s Apple, let alone possessing logic and intellect inherent in the rest of us. I could site, as one of infinite examples, ... But “logic and reason” again are irrelevant in dealing with dolts like you. With deadbolt accuracy, I KNOW you are among the Darwin Awards who, for example, call our former President (Trump) a “racist,” despite him not ONCE making a “racist” statement. Unlike yourself. To suggest “look up the definition of ‘racist,’ then have you properly use the term, falls under the “logic/reason/basic intelligence” thingy, again irrelevant for those with cranium packed with anti-IQ.
If your dad is a millionaire, like Jobs and Gates... they started in their garage, their 1+ million dollar house garage... with parts and stuff paid for my their millionaire PARENTS...
Exactly we’ve switched to scrum for 10 years now and it absolutely sucks. It might be ok for sub par resources. But for passionate creative people agile is nothing but 100% managerial policing. The exact opposite of what Steve Jobs was talking about :(. This and the open office layout, one can’t even breathe now.
2:17 is exactly what Plato said about who should be the ruler of a country or a civilization *The Philosopher King*. Not someone that wants to rule. If someone wants to rule, that means that individual wants power. However, an individual that does not want to rule, but has to because it is better for everybody that way.
Having been in both the military for a short time and the private sector, the term leadership by example transitioned well to the private sector. However going from the private to the state was an eye opener as they would allow you to do all the work of your team if that’s what you wanted, but also allowed slackers to be promoted. I think Jobs made a difference because he made people feel like they were a part of creating something bigger then themselves
@@ghostbuster8894 "transitioned well" means "applied as well". Leadership by example was used in the military, and the commenter above realized it also worked well in the private sector
"You know who the best managers are? They're the great individual contributors, who never ever want to be a manager, but decide they have to be a manager because no one else is going to be able to do as good a job as them." How true is that statement! In my working life I have noticed that the people who really want to be in charge are power-hungry, egotistical people. And the people who should be in charge are usually smart, hard working, introverts that never want those positions.
I don't think anyone should try to emulate his managerial style, he was at the right place at the right time, he was able to get away with the things he pulled, the vast majority of us will not.
Okay. So, the part I disagree with is at 0:58 where engineers talk about their recruitment standards. it's one thing to have passion - but to give a person a tough grilling from 9AM until dinner time (and even past that)? That may have worked in the mid 80's - but not anymore. Times have moved on, and in fact, right now, we are in the middle of the "Great Attrition". No longer will you get the Great engineers with "cap in hand" begging for a job, and willing to sell their soul. They are motivated by a mission which resonates a sense of purpose to what they're trying to achieve - but not to the extent that they deny the existence of a life outside of work, or their entitlement to their fair ration of dignity and self-respect.
I've interviewed with Apple and with startups and other bigtech companies. My Apple interviews were indeed from 10am to 8pm. But they were outstanding. The startups asked some boring, generic leetcode stuff. Apple's team asked things about my expertise, my vision, and shared their expertise. Throughout the 10am to 8pm day, I gained energy. The boring startup interviewers drained my energy. It was a very easy decision whom I wanted to work with.
Our Country Manager is a bozo. He has closed two areas due to poor performances, the area he is based on is on life-support (company has been propping it up as a flagship store), and we are the last area that is bringing any real profit, which means we get only pressure and stress to do more...and the best part his people in his area earn 50% more. Real fair. And what happens when everything goes belly up? I was told he will resume being the expansion manager for the area. Lol? All of his stores are closed and he is still in charge of expansion? LOLL. If that does not describe how f'ed up this company is, then I don't know what does. He had LOTS of experience and specialization in expanding a restaurant before coming into our business. But wait the kicker. Our business has nothing to do with restaurants.
You mean how to demean your own team, steal their ideas, rip them off and ruin their lives? Jobs was a Monster. His own family hated him for good reasons.
This is exactly what I go through. I work in construction as a Project Manager and degree never gets the job done. Those who did well in my company were those who are passionate, motivated and wanting to better themselves and guess what they have no degree and/or credentials but they have grit.
I can never be passionate or motivated about what I do while working for someone else/company. Why should I work my but off when i take home maybe 5% of what I bring in? It’s a joke and a trap.
@@Fat_Catt You are free to start your own business at your will. Noone is stopping you. However, your approach i find a little selfish. Business offers you the opportunity to grow at risk free, provides you with equipment, machinery, tools and other people and resources and customer network you may never be able to find alone or opening up your own business at start that easy. Therefore you can always keep up with other people communicate and perhaps make a great team rather than finding working for someone else or a company a joke or looking at what you bring only and not the broader picture of what you also gain.
I don't care for the use of the word 'passionate' in the workplace. I do my job. I am conscientious, have a strong sense of duty, am always learning and looking for ways to do things better and more efficiently. But i would not call myself passionate. I would say I am conscientious and have a strong sense of duty.
It was because of the universal fact that," Goodness can only spring forth from that which is good in all dimensions " and that truth was a constant reminder to him of his simplicity,honesty and humility, being the key to the overall success of mankind,the world over !! I pray that he abounds in eternal peace,joy and happiness !! 🙏✝️ Thanks for sharing !! ❤️❤️❤️
I've been brainstorming a "non-management" approach for my upcoming venture...after working for a large corporate (hierarchically structured) organization. Its overwhelming flaws did little but grind down potentially good associates. "...self managed...once they know what to do..." "The common vision of leadership..." It all starts with hiring the right people. This approach is a gem. Thanks for this confirmation video! His assessment of 'managers' is on the mark: overpaid underachievers with too much power, not enough wisdom, and a mandate to micro-manage. Good people, properly and fully trained, given responsibility and accountability...trusted and empowered, uplifted through a common vision, and with transparent & infrequent verifications = a roadmap for all around success.
"You know who the best managers are? They're the great individual contributors, who never ever want to be a manager, but decide they have to be a manager because no one else is going to be able to do as good a job as them." The person saying this in the video is the Steve Jobs when he was young? So inspirational
This got put in my recommendations, & perfect timing, honestly. I got hired at Apple 3 months ago, & even within this crazy pandemic -- I see how dedicated everyone is. Brilliant people, everyday, wanting to put the extra time in just to make things up to their standard. It's both exhausting & inspiring lol.
he wanted people who could create and he could take the credit, just like many other ecomaniacs before him. Without Samsung he'd have no ipod, iphone, and many other tech products, the reason why apple stopped innovating when Samsung started producing competing products... #surprise, the innovation came from Asia, not Jobs, not apple.
@@chrisdawes7270you have no clue what you are talking about lol none what so ever iPhone was before android lol they were the very first touch screen phone Steve jobs sued android for copyright infringement and apple won but yea and the ipod was the first digital mp3 player that could fit 1000 songs in your pocket
I was in IT for 25 years, starting as a programmer/analyst, then project manager. I always thought of projects as a river, my job was to make sure the boat moved in the right direction and remove any rocks before we hit them.
Hey Evan, I like your videos. I hired people based on personality traits, of course speciality mattered, such as accounting etc... what also mattered training and following up. So I say hire people that are smarter than you, train them, then let them run. I started a couple of companies from the ground up and this worked for me.
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Please, can someone explain this contradiction?? Steve Jobs said that when Apple got big and to the point where they think that they can hire professional managers, he called them bozos because "they could manage, but they didn't know how to do anything. If you're insanely great, why would you want to work for someone that you can't learn anything from?" THEN, it cuts to the scene with the MBA literature major on the Macintosh team who is now working as a manager for manufacturing, whom has no experience in manufacturing. Even though she's not a professional manager, she also does not know how to do anything in that field. She is an insider, and has highly organizational skills, but I don't see how that's much of a bump up (if it even is a bump up) than a professional manager that doesn't have any real experienced in that field and whom I'm sure is also highly organized just like her.
it could be that she has great communication skills and maybe she's a great team builder. It could be possible that Jobs didn't like "professional managers" because those types of managers are always bringing office politics into the work place and when you bring someone like that into a company like apple, it turns everything too political and stifles great ideas and innovation.
GeoAl09 Management is not something you learn at a school. Many people are not organized, especially not specialists that are only interested in there field. Traditionally the complete wrong things has been valued the highest.
On People"we want people who are INSANELY GREAT,-who had a PASSION . On manager's "they knew how to manage, but they didn't know how to do anything". I value working with a team who can "do what is asked to do" and can "demonstrate" as well. What a visionary - why is this video not shown to the corporate world for simple logical leadership training?
He is a great leader indeed. Yes he had flaws like all of us, but overall he shared his vision with others and his team made something that didn't have to ever be if he kept it to himself. I like that visionaries see many things, and a lot of them don't share their talents with the world. They make things only for themselves. He could have done this as well and went to work at a job, but instead he shared his gift. I admire what he did. I write my ideas in books knowing that I won't always be here, so I hope to leave my love to carry on when I'm gone. His work will always endure even when haters one day stop hating. Let him RIP please. Luvu
Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts Nightrissa. Great points about Steve Jobs and great to know you are also taking action and doing what you love. All the best! :) #BelieveNation #BTA436 Shine
I think generally in good tech companies they seem to have more of a competency hierarchy than a power hierarchy (that might be more prevalent in other industries). This may be because in Tech, its easy to find out who does not know what they are talking about. And the self-policing culture Steve Jobs talks about ensures those people don't last. In banking infrastructure, in contrast...
The single best video out of all that i have seen about Jobs.. The idea of hiring "generalists" (who go on to be insanely gr8 people) and dismissing specialists as bozos is what made apple Apple in the first place.. This was true in the early days of the company even before it got incorporated (in its days in the garage) up through the mid 80s and carried on even through the dark times of 90s at least in the engineering department. They always had great engineering and design talent even in the dark days. Thats because a lot (if not most) of engineering and design talent that had been there during the revolution of the company in the 70s and the mid 80s stuck around and carried on with the same old mantra, same ideologies that the place had once stood for. They continued hiring gr8 engineering and design talent like themselves. The infection was the upper executive people and managers. After Jobs's return, the company wiped out the so called "specialist" culture it had adopted in the upper managerial division in the 90s with bozo of CEOs and all the middle managers. The company from then onwards, resumed operating with the same philosophies it had had in the first place i.e. hire insanely gr8 people. And it still is true after he is gone..
I was just talking to my husband about something similar. He was trying to suggest process, micromanage, etc. I told him to set down the goal, define the finish-line, and let that person figure it out. (He was talking to a type A adult who is not in our nuclear family.) I told him he can micromanage me and our kid, but not other people. I'm still hoping he gets it.
I worked with Steve in my trimester-year 1992-1993. He is an eager worker and really knows how computers have to 'talk'. He managed me somehow with computerizing and I still love computerizing especially with his programms. Thanks Steve.
1. Best people are self-managing 2. They don't want to be leaders but become, because no one else would do a better job than them 3. A leader articulates the main vision of the future, related to the people his working with 4. Understanding of the product you're offering and the details of it, they are the teachers
Apparently she stayed with Apple until 1992 and was promoted all the way to CFO, so it appears she was able to continue proving herself under the John Sculley administration, well long after Jobs had left. She made a ton of money and became an angel investor through the 2000s, but died last year.
Embedded software dev here... I have worked at two companies with very motivated engineering departments... But... The first company I worked at, management placed new fancy features at highest priority, where security and stability features where always of lowest priority. Due to understaffed, 'low priority' is the equivalent of 'happens never'. Meanwhile the same management that creates the prioritization kept asking 'why the companies product' was so unstable and of bad quality. The second company I worked at was even a bigger mess. 1. Nobody there (wanted) to understand the difference between 'embedded & front-end' developers. Even after explaining it like 20 times or so. 2. The mentality of prioritizing form over function. Where I had to waste 75% of my development time trying out each color in a color pallet until the graphical artist knew what he actually wanted. 3. Management giving the engineering department only 6 month's for a 10 month long project. Management also moving 50% of the engineering department staff to another project only 2 months later. 4. Management breaking one of the two prototypes only 3 weeks before deadline ('6' month long project), by trying to plug a mini USB cable into a micro USB slot, ripping the connector (including traces) of the circuit-board. 5. Management approving the designers and graphical artist to disassemble our only (lasting) working prototype 2 weeks before deadline (same project as the previous point). Because of a little (barely visible) error in the paint job. Something they could have fixed 4 months prior. For all information, yes they broke this second (and last) prototype only 2 weeks before deadline. 6. Management blaming the engineering department of bad planning, after the engineering department saved the 'big vip showcase' by frankensteining together a third working prototype (in less than a week) out of the leftovers from the previous (destroyed) two prototypes. (my ex-colleague that still works there keeps the backup prototype in his car to protect it from this Idiocracy). 7. Management starting to outsource engineering because (in their opinion) the internal engineering department doesn't do a good enough job. Where outsourcing is making development actually 5 times slower than before. As a student I would never have guessed my job would be like working for a bunch of mindless toddlers, who have their own head stuck up so far their own buttocks, they think they are geniuses. Now I work for a small startup where there is no (real) management, only the founders (engineers) forced into the function of a manager. Amazing how efficient that is compared to (real) managers...
I have a young man lodging at my house and is a friend of the family, he works for a call centre I referred him to, but lord do I see this lad as a total inspiration for his passion, and although I don’t know much about technology, I do know he knows more than me, but I can see the basics of this great young man being everything a great company would ever want. I can’t put my finger on every attribute he has but I know one day, through his core values, he will make it not just big but immense. He’s just that good. And I’m a fkn cynic to the core
Steve named external managers by bozzos and that they don t know anything( thats True most of the time). But we do always need great managers Who have the passion in the vision of the company . John Sculley the ex manager in pepsi Cola was the one Who saved Apple at a time. He was recruted by steve Who persuaded him just by ' Will you pass your whole life selling water and sugger, or Will you work for something that Will change the world'
look at the album covers of enrique iglesias (and most of his music videos). he wears generic clothing like steve did. and YES you can date his clothing and hairstyle. people did not wear open collar business shirts in the early 1900s. they wore suits and those hats. anything can indeed be dated.
Pardon my language.. But i agree with every last F@#%ing thing mr jobs said. I have constantly found that managers largely are idiots. Ive had to become a manager for the sole reason because i known what needs to be done and i get it done because everybody else is well frankly getting in the way.. I have great respect for leaders and managers whom i can learn from not idiots whom have been given a job because there cv has a good uni on it or daddys contacts set them up in the job. We need do'ers and know'ers not mani'grs.
god only knows I agree. I have been with different companies and the managers did nothing but micromanage everything but they could never do the job themselves, nor did they even know what the job entailed. I see this more from the midwest than the west coast. The west coast has more innovation, they take risks and get smart, ambitious people. The midwest continues to be behind because they continue to follow a safe route that is not working anymore and where nepotism and good ol boy beliefs still rule.
A great leader is everything for a company! There are so many insights we can learn from Steve Jobs, thanks for sharing Evan. I make sure we hire the best so that our company continues to grow and investing in our people so they can reach their full potential. The people are our business! :)
Youre mistaken. Jobs didnt want Scully to be CEO, jobs wanted jobs to be CEO. But the board didnt think he was mature enough and so they looked for a "professional" that the shareholders would be happy about.
Sculley didn't really get Jobs fired. Jobs basically fired himself because he wasn't willing to having someone else in charge. Sculley didn't want him to leave. But, Jobs was unwilling to not act like the CEO.
@@felpswa123 No Sculley did not fire Steve. However a decision concerning the mac and marketing went up to the board and Steves idea lost, the board sided with Sculley. Steve hired Sculley to mentor him because he was not a seasoned CEO, plus I he did not want that role right then he wanted to help hands on to build computers in projects.
@@tombjornebark I don’t think that’s quite right. My understanding is that Sculley was hired by the board, who preferred someone external over Jobs in 1983. Jobs had already been forced from the CEO position in 1980 when Apple became a public company owned by shareholders. Jobs wanted the payout from going public but not to be controlled by shareholders. Quit when it became clear that he couldn’t have his cake and eat it too.
Steve is right! By FAR the worst managers I've ever had were at a big tech company (you've probably heard of). The managers' names were John Halv__ (dublin) and Kelly Kra__ (austin) -- and they were definition of managers who want to manage people and had no skills themselves. They loved terrorizing people and literally would say "keep them on their heels -- and laugh". Micromanagement galore: for example, taking notes about who sat on the couch in the office, or if you brought your guitar into the office to prevent it from cooking in the car and didn't even play it, they would book an intervention to talk about your 'professionalism'. what? this is a big tech company. on other teams, people don't wear shoes, and they come in at 10AM. but on their team, 7AM "butts in chairs". unbelievable. sociopaths. It took 3 years of trips to HR, and dozens of people quitting before we pushed them out. The team is now doing fantastic without them, even more productive than before. Turned out (surprise surprise), the team didn't need their 'management'. The team was about 40 people....times 3 years....that's 120 human-years of suffering all for nothing.
@2:00 That's so true & unfortunately most management positions are given out (regardless of the type of business) on managerial skills rather than on performance or knowledge of the product or service. You get someone that's supposed to be a leader & is good at telling people "you have to do X or else you get in trouble" (And not all the time either when it comes to people with preferences for others & in some cases even fear of others) but isn't good at teaching people how to do X because they were never very knowledgeable or good performers to begin with so inevitably the company's operations become centered more around it's politics or employee policies than it does about the product or service it's self!
Excellent video, thanks for posting. Jobs may not have been right about everything regarding management, but he certainly hit some key ideas that most organizations are missing. Dull, uninspiring management is everywhere. One criticism I have though is that his team was pretty homogenous.
Listening to Steve Jobs and his awesome coworkers I can understand why it became the top valued company in the world! Still all the brilliancy, technology and money couldn't beat the cancer that took him in the end..I guess the closest we have to Steve Jobs now is Elon Musk although they are very different personalities.
best talent dont need be manage. they need vision Profesional manager is not the right recruitment, they dont know anything about ur company. Hire someone when individually good n never experience be a manager, they are more better
In india saif ali khan will be best suit to the play the character of steve jobs if they ever make a movie on him. OMG.. so much resemblance from steves younger days..
why does this not show the date when it was posted ? I understand its a clip from ages ago ... but i want to know when this guys evan carmichael posted the video .. and i cant seem to see it
@@krishnamohan2351 cant compare elon to steve. Elon is a better human being steve used wozniak and he hated to help people. If all Ceos would be like steve the earth would be destroyed by 3rd world war
@@Teluric2 precisely. I said Elon is better than Steve. It'll take time for the world to realise this. Steve made a company that makes phones, laptops and smartwatches. Any other tech company can do that. Just not as good a job. But no company in the world would have made EVs mainstream or made rockets reuseable. We're in a total different path of history because of Elon.
It’s interesting my experience is that those individual contributors start off with poor people management but in time grow into good leaders. But it takes time and plenty of mistakes
Question for the community: how do you maintain an IC culture as you scale? At what stage is it actually best to begin implementing hierarchy (i.e. managers, VPs, etc.)?
Just gotta remember two things: 1) that you don't manage people - you lead them, and 2) in spite of all the employment matching methodologies that exist, very few people get into positions that fit them as well as described here. From the candidate side - ya gotta eat, ya gotta pay the bills... As a long time and extremely successful hiring sales manager I followed legal guidelines and company policy of course. After that I went for sharp people with work ethic and personality. Monk instead of TO, for example. I had stupefyingly low turnover for a sales department, and those veteran, happy employees produced consistently at a very high level.
Modern day 23 year olds look younger because they're more immature and talk and behave like retards. When you have upper class girls who are not influenced by pop culture too much, even when they're like 14/15 they act and behave like grown women. I have met quite a few girls who were around 15 but I thought were like at least 19 or 20, but not in the United States though (even though they exist in the US, but they don't appear too much, because like I said, they're usually upper class, and don't mingle or show off too much. Showing off is actually a pretty immature trait, that's why television and such are filled with drama whores).
It's a great video, thanks for sharing it. Of course history proves that Steve Jobs' management principles yielded great results, but he was also famous for his temperament and outbursts at employees. I'm sure you're familiar with the story of people employed at Apple afraid of finding themselves alone in the elevator with him. I wonder if he could have done even better with a higher degree of empathy!
I’m self managed and I’ve been fortunate enough to have had an awesome mentor for the last 7 years. Our relationship has grown into more of therapy for one another. She’s moved into a higher role at another company and I’ve taken a pay cut. I’m not good with social skills or networking, but I do well at my job and I share time saving tips with the coworkers I speak with so it’s not like I’m asocial but social skills get you farther than academic achievements, experience, work quality or work production.
"You know who the best managers are? They're the great individual contributors, who never ever want to be a manager, but decide they have to be a manager because no one else is going to be able to do as good a job as them." Very powerful, in all honesty.
Thank you for sharing with us and thanks for watching. :) #BelieveNation #BTA732 Luka
Keep producing awesome content!
Steve Jobs words.
Brillian, just brilliant. I wich they could teach this to all the MBA students in America
Really true words.. from great Steve Jobs.
He is so true. I call them Email Managers. They check their mails, ask ETAs, notify upper management, setup meetings, ask unnecessary questions and go home. You can’t learn anything from them other than how to sound relevant during meetings.
Thanks for sharing! 💛😊 #Believe - Dondon
How to sound relevant and insightful... so true!
fuck this is me. I work in tech. Company circling the plug
Email managers is a good description. I call them Yes-men. They're there to report back to their upper-management. They're there to report numbers, but not lead. This is a VERY typical structure in organizations with an owner structure. The site managers doesn't get any incentives for evolving the business. They're rewarded for reporting back to upper management and get to keep their jobs in return. Organizations like that will ALWAYS go under due to advances in technology, because they're stuck in the past. And when the owners realize they can't milk more money out of them they sell the company.
The problem isn't the hiring process or the managers, the problem is the organizational structure. I work for a company like this today. I will never ever work for a global company again. A good company HAS to have a passionate leader as the owner. Otherwise you will never ever see long term growth.
That is the job they're given, the outcome expected and all they have time for. Half of them are working managers too, so they're "productive." Most good managers are destroyed.
"they knew how to manage, but they didn't know how to do anything!" 30 years on and not alot has changed with big corporate companies
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this is why i started my own company. because of bosses like this. who just "managed" but they didn't even know what makes their product tick.
100! I left a huge company for that reason. Where I’m at now is still good sized but you really own your lane. There aren’t 18 ppl on every call with no one actually being responsible. It’s refreshing.
@@insanecuckooman8342 Apple is full of managers, thousands of them, they only became successful after they had them... Jobs takes the credit, but it was managers and inventors (aka outside companies like samsung) that made their products 'wow'...
nothing changed but is just worsen.
My father was the 25th Employee at Apple. R.I.P. Dad - 05/25/1955 - 08/02/2019. I still have your Heathkit Hero1 Robot in storage. I'll get it going when your granddaughter gets a bit older to enjoy it. Glad you got to meet her before you passed. Miss you so much.
Wow! Thank you for sharing to us. R.I.P to your Dad. #Believe - Ahmed
Sounds like he left a lot of good memories for you and your family which are cherished. Hope he rests in peace and you and your family are well, safe and happy.
May he rest in peace. Stay strong!!
Dads are the hands that lift you up to see tomorrow!
Your Dad passed on 11 days after my Dad.
Stay strong my friend!
@@troyezell5841 - He had a great morning, normal routine, he wasn't in the best of heath, heart problems etc..., we knew it was just a matter of when... then after about 4 hours he wanted to take a nap... His last words were "just give me 5 more minutes". We all sat around him and said "no problem Dad, take a nap when you want to".
5 Minutes later he was gone.
My Mom later said, I don't think he was talking to us, I think he was talking to St. Peter.
Steve Jobs was spot on, driven, and annoyed traditional types to no end. I mean, seriously, how can you expect excellence from a mediocre workforce? They have to be inspired, motivated, and able to share a common vision, which Steve provided.
💛😊 #BELIEVE - Ahmed
As a software engineer, I really believed in every single one of the projects I worked on. That is until the company get's sold, investors, owners, and stakeholders walk away millionaires and these hardworking software engineers who worked late hours bringing the dream to fruition get handed a pink slip. Hard to find "passion" when you see this happen over and over in the software engineering world.
Job's employees have no idea they are simply sheep for the wealthy.
+FCBArvin "they always have the opportunity to start something" This is one of the most deceptive argument. Our life, and everything it encompasses, is finite.
+FCBArvin my initial point was that you shouldn't work 70 hour work weeks and expect any substantial bonuses or compensation with your 9-5. Too many software engineers kill themselves working endless hours building a product only to get nothing "extra" in the end. I would argue that there is nothing wrong with working 9-5 as a software engineer, just make sure you keep it 9-5, unless you have equity, stock, or ownership percentage. Otherwise all the extra time at work will be for nothing. I've been there and done that and regret those weekends and late 1AM work days only to make someone else a millionaire. I have no problem making someone else rich, but I won't break my back doing it again.
+Joe Tavarez I don't understand. If there was no gain of any kind in doing it, no contract for a return on your investment why work from 5pm - 1pm for *free*?? Who does this?
That's why I started my own company. I feel your post.
Smart leaders employ people smarter than them.
Thanks for watching! #Believe - Feb
Unfortunately those people might be motivated but work for a dumber person
screw that...you need people to show up and work, not sit around thinking "I'm smarter than the owner"
@@andrefecteau You obviously aren't smart enough to realize the true workings of the world. Skills differ, utilize the most efficient candidate for the job and you will have better results than the competition.
@@sarahnvanweeren6139 umm I'm a millionaire and scratch golfer..what are you? Troll baby? You are spouting "conventionalism" and obviously your net worth is less than zero and have a shit job? Right?
Never be a master. A master can no longer grow. Remain a student.
Love it! ❤️😊 #BELIEVE - Ahmed
Bullshit
Be a master but have the mindset of a student
Be a winner. Stay humble and hungry.
Great IDEA
Sir Branson asked, "How do you motivate your people?" ................answer, "I only hire motivated people!"
Woot #Believe 💛😊 - Dondon
Gold
Branson only hires direct reports for last 20 years. HR has done so since, so he doesn't hire motivated people, HR does. His name might be there, but he manages almost none of his businesses personally.
@Grant Spork. Typical horse manure! Management tales that get passed around and will never work in Technology. Jobs understood one KEY secret to tech and that is talent. The great software engineers are not 10x, not 100x, more like 1000x better than good software engineers. And, they are not interested in platitudes like this. Which is why when talent leaves, technology firms die. Just follow the talent.
@@bigmoose143 Very egotistical comment. Musk seems to run on that mantra, and has out paced most of his competition. Will technology and AI reduce the ego driven software engineer? Manure is needed to grow things well!
I’m a manager at my company and I can say for sure there have been times I managed poorly. I think the key is to be able to admit to yourself when something is not working so you can figure out why and make the necessary adjustments.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and for watching. 💛😊 #Believe - Dondon
The sad thing is that people don't want to hear the truth about management or leadership. You shouldn't have to tell them what to do; they should be passionate enough that they thrive on growing, learning, and duplicating their knowledge with true empowerment for their employees, not just delegation and distribution of work.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Buz. :) #BTA389 Shine
The problem is that one bad "apple" (if you will) ruins the bunch. For every passionate, self-motivated person you have on your team, there's probably (at least) two lazy entitled ones that don't pull their own weight. They ruin the dynamic for the good people on the team because they require policing. Thing is, micromanaging is NEVER EVER the answer, though!
Buz Jacobson show me a job first where it's worth investing my passion and love in it.
zeus1117 Look where you passion and love is... you might find what you're looking for there.
TheEndTrend not if you hire better people, also you can be fired for constantly having to be reprimanded
I work 23 years in software engineering. I have come to the exact conclusion and opinion. Most people in management positions are useless with no vision, no strategy, no connection with the environment, they just have a nice cv and they know how to talk. You bring them into your project and they become a liability and not an asset, in the sense that the project works better without them. Self management employees that are driven from a common vision are hard to find these days, not only because of lack of the right leadership, but also because it is difficult to find a company with such a culture and generaly because of lack of ethics.
Thank you for sharing, much appreciated. 😊 #Believe - Feb
get back to work and quit screwing around -- your manager
"If you're a great person, why would you want to work for someone that you can't learn anything from?"
💛😊 #Believe - Dondon
no-one ever learnt anything from Jobs, he rode solo - everyone who's ever worked at Apple knows that. He has the spin, but management had to create products and release them, not Jobs.
@JigaYan guessing you've watched the movie and bought into the lie, rather than talked to people who he treated like slaves and 3rd class citizens, to him pretending apple invented anything himself. Even his famous turtle neck was designed by someone else.
There is nothing in 2021 that is inspirational about this man who used Samsung to 'wow' the world with THEIR technogy branded 'apple'. Seen any innovation in the last 15 years of apple... #zero
wow this was amazing. also so lovely to see him with hair
Glad you liked it Rebecca. Thank you very much for watching! :) #BelieveNation #BTA461 Shine
No problem. All the best sir
Hahah he's the co-founder of one of the biggest company, who cares about hair
Roshan Surana Women
She is just admiring guys no need to get hostile.
Every single word he said was so real. Nothing has really changed at all in 30 years, bozos everywhere.
You are one of them
@@JK-vc7ie aw mannn you killed him
bezos*
Correct
@@JK-vc7ie added the number in 2
2:05 "They knew how to manage.. but they didn`t know how to do anything."
Wise words.. very true. That's the key element why usually managers are just there to be a pain in the ass and not being of any real help.
From my personal experience, it can be seen from a slightly different angle: They choose to (or had to, didn't really have a choice) be managers, precisely because they never were good at actually delivering (doing) anything of value.
+joetube01 i find this to be very true. The corporate world is absolutely infested with people like this and for whatever reason, rather than getting these useless "bozo's" some training in order to be more useful, the companies they work for continue to just keep them there allowing them to be useless.
Basically, a summary of Canadian banks.
There will always be transactional junior workers who need a constant eye on. There is no need for managers for knowledge workers. If one finds themselves needing to be managed, they are definitely transactional and dependent.
Amy Ee
almost anyone can be that type of manager. Great companies want managers who can do that and yet offer much more to the company and the team they manage.
Amy Ee 100% agree with what you say.
Steve was lightyears ahead of his time. Everybody wanted to work for him.
Thanks for watching! #BELIEVE❤️😊 - Ahmed
he absolutely trashed his Chinese workers, they committed suicide occasionally. like your Mac?
@@Applecider-Poetry Do tell us “all about Steve...”
(this is merely for a cheap laugh, as you clearly didn’t know him, nor know anything about him;
but your “skill” (singular!) clearly does consist of “proficiency in tossing out ‘expertise’ wherever Google ‘products’ permit... 😳😖🥴)
>> Intelligent inference: Jobs implicitly had ZERO tolerance for - no, it never would occur to begin with - the abhorrent sh!t produced by the Chinese sweatshops like Foxconn that Team Crook (“Tim Cook”) uses to mass-produce the garbage pawned off on us as (cr)Apple ‘hardware’.
For you (or anyone) to make such an absurd, wildly false, and typical blanket-statement is nothing more than psychobabble espoused by lobotomized liberals who know nothing about running a business, let alone a once-peerless one like Jobs’s Apple, let alone possessing logic and intellect inherent in the rest of us.
I could site, as one of infinite examples, ...
But “logic and reason” again are irrelevant in dealing with dolts like you. With deadbolt accuracy, I KNOW you are among the Darwin Awards who, for example, call our former President (Trump) a “racist,” despite him not ONCE making a “racist” statement.
Unlike yourself.
To suggest “look up the definition of ‘racist,’ then have you properly use the term, falls under the “logic/reason/basic intelligence” thingy, again irrelevant for those with cranium packed with anti-IQ.
Same with Elon musk today
He was a tool
I think I learned more about management and recruiting in this ~4 min video than an entire class on Leadership Efficiently
Awesome! Glad that to know Manu. Thanks for watching. 💛😊 #Believe - Ahmed
@@EvanCarmichael yes I feel the same as Manu.
Embracing yourself, is the beginning of life, you can start from anywhere with anything with nothing and do anything.
100% agree. Thanks for watching ❤️😊 #BELIEVE - Ahmed
If your dad is a millionaire, like Jobs and Gates... they started in their garage, their 1+ million dollar house garage... with parts and stuff paid for my their millionaire PARENTS...
Funny how Apple released ProDOS, AppleDOS, MacOS, System7, Lisa 7/7, MacWrite/Paint/Draw, HyperCard, etc. without Agile, scrum, sprints.
😂 😂 😂 #Believe - Ahmed
Not that funny considering they hadn't been invented yet
Steve Carter That's what I meant, we don't need soul-sucking sprints and useless consultancy buzzwords
Exactly we’ve switched to scrum for 10 years now and it absolutely sucks. It might be ok for sub par resources. But for passionate creative people agile is nothing but 100% managerial policing. The exact opposite of what Steve Jobs was talking about :(. This and the open office layout, one can’t even breathe now.
When working with small teams, you don't need all those overreaching and overbearing methodologies for managing code and platforms.
2:17 is exactly what Plato said about who should be the ruler of a country or a civilization *The Philosopher King*. Not someone that wants to rule. If someone wants to rule, that means that individual wants power. However, an individual that does not want to rule, but has to because it is better for everybody that way.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and for watching. 😊 #Believe - Feb
Makes me think of Trump. He sure didn't need all the crap the left has thrown at him, but I'm glad he knows he's the best for the job!
Having been in both the military for a short time and the private sector, the term leadership by example transitioned well to the private sector. However going from the private to the state was an eye opener as they would allow you to do all the work of your team if that’s what you wanted, but also allowed slackers to be promoted. I think Jobs made a difference because he made people feel like they were a part of creating something bigger then themselves
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and for watching. 😊 #Believe - Feb
What do you mean by "transitioned" here; "[T]he term leadership by example transitioned well to the private sector."
@@ghostbuster8894 "transitioned well" means "applied as well". Leadership by example was used in the military, and the commenter above realized it also worked well in the private sector
"You know who the best managers are? They're the great individual contributors, who never ever want to be a manager, but decide they have to be a manager because no one else is going to be able to do as good a job as them."
How true is that statement! In my working life I have noticed that the people who really want to be in charge are power-hungry, egotistical people. And the people who should be in charge are usually smart, hard working, introverts that never want those positions.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and for watching. 💛😊 #Believe - Dondon
If you try to be like Jobs you will fail. My take away is - he created his own approach through trial and error and a willingness to change.
Thank you for sharing with us and thanks for watching. :) #BelieveNation #BTA655 Luka
sure. Be yourself.
I don't think anyone should try to emulate his managerial style, he was at the right place at the right time, he was able to get away with the things he pulled, the vast majority of us will not.
@Roshni Rampadarath lame quote, where did you find that in the secret
Okay. So, the part I disagree with is at 0:58 where engineers talk about their recruitment standards. it's one thing to have passion - but to give a person a tough grilling from 9AM until dinner time (and even past that)? That may have worked in the mid 80's - but not anymore. Times have moved on, and in fact, right now, we are in the middle of the "Great Attrition". No longer will you get the Great engineers with "cap in hand" begging for a job, and willing to sell their soul. They are motivated by a mission which resonates a sense of purpose to what they're trying to achieve - but not to the extent that they deny the existence of a life outside of work, or their entitlement to their fair ration of dignity and self-respect.
I've interviewed with Apple and with startups and other bigtech companies. My Apple interviews were indeed from 10am to 8pm. But they were outstanding. The startups asked some boring, generic leetcode stuff. Apple's team asked things about my expertise, my vision, and shared their expertise. Throughout the 10am to 8pm day, I gained energy. The boring startup interviewers drained my energy. It was a very easy decision whom I wanted to work with.
Yep, if all your company makes is hamburgers or cars. But if you’re company wants to change the world, you only want iconoclasts on your team.
I remember that.
+Steve Jobs lol #BTA24
+Steve Jobs COME BACK TO US.
Stop messing around up there with them angels and get back to work.
+tanakattack soon...
are you going to res him? lol. (;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`)
Steve Jobs Jony Ive took away the g keys
If only more people running companies understand what Jobs understood about managers and bozos...
Thanks for watching and for sharing your thoughts dysonlu. :) #Believe #BTA475 Shine
Our Country Manager is a bozo. He has closed two areas due to poor performances, the area he is based on is on life-support (company has been propping it up as a flagship store), and we are the last area that is bringing any real profit, which means we get only pressure and stress to do more...and the best part his people in his area earn 50% more. Real fair. And what happens when everything goes belly up? I was told he will resume being the expansion manager for the area. Lol? All of his stores are closed and he is still in charge of expansion? LOLL. If that does not describe how f'ed up this company is, then I don't know what does. He had LOTS of experience and specialization in expanding a restaurant before coming into our business. But wait the kicker. Our business has nothing to do with restaurants.
@@makomichael Wow.
Seriously, that’s the best (and most accurate!) “management description” I’ve ever heard.
I won’t forget your words! 👍😎
You mean how to demean your own team, steal their ideas, rip them off and ruin their lives? Jobs was a Monster. His own family hated him for good reasons.
So true about common vision and "professional management". I witnessed how a company went down with the lack of the former and the help of the latter.
Thanks for sharing! 💛😊 #Believe - Dondon
Apple and others would have been really exceptional if they had the integrity to manufacturer in their own country.
Thank you for sharing your opinion and for watching. 😊 #Believe - Feb
This is exactly what I go through. I work in construction as a Project Manager and degree never gets the job done. Those who did well in my company were those who are passionate, motivated and wanting to better themselves and guess what they have no degree and/or credentials but they have grit.
Agreed to that. Success requires Determination, Skill, Passion, Discipline And #Believe in yourself. 😊 - Feb
I can never be passionate or motivated about what I do while working for someone else/company. Why should I work my but off when i take home maybe 5% of what I bring in? It’s a joke and a trap.
@@Fat_Catt You are free to start your own business at your will. Noone is stopping you. However, your approach i find a little selfish. Business offers you the opportunity to grow at risk free, provides you with equipment, machinery, tools and other people and resources and customer network you may never be able to find alone or opening up your own business at start that easy. Therefore you can always keep up with other people communicate and perhaps make a great team rather than finding working for someone else or a company a joke or looking at what you bring only and not the broader picture of what you also gain.
@@ΣτέλιοςΚαμίδης you are right. That is a great way of looking at it. I was being too negative.
I don't care for the use of the word 'passionate' in the workplace. I do my job. I am conscientious, have a strong sense of duty, am always learning and looking for ways to do things better and more efficiently. But i would not call myself passionate. I would say I am conscientious and have a strong sense of duty.
It was because of the universal fact
that," Goodness can only spring forth
from that which is good in all dimensions " and that truth was a constant reminder to him of his simplicity,honesty and humility, being the key to the overall success of mankind,the world over !!
I pray that he abounds in eternal peace,joy and happiness !! 🙏✝️
Thanks for sharing !! ❤️❤️❤️
You're much welcome. 😊 #Believe - Feb
I've been brainstorming a "non-management" approach for my upcoming venture...after working for a large corporate (hierarchically structured) organization. Its overwhelming flaws did little but grind down potentially good associates. "...self managed...once they know what to do..." "The common vision of leadership..." It all starts with hiring the right people. This approach is a gem. Thanks for this confirmation video!
His assessment of 'managers' is on the mark: overpaid underachievers with too much power, not enough wisdom, and a mandate to micro-manage. Good people, properly and fully trained, given responsibility and accountability...trusted and empowered, uplifted through a common vision, and with transparent & infrequent verifications = a roadmap for all around success.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and for watching. 💛😊 #Believe - Dondon
"You know who the best managers are? They're the great individual contributors, who never ever want to be a manager, but decide they have to be a manager because no one else is going to be able to do as good a job as them."
The person saying this in the video is the Steve Jobs when he was young?
So inspirational
Thanks for sharing your takeaway, glad you felt inspired by it. Thanks for watching! 😊 #Believe - Feb
Thank you 🙏🏾 Evan Happy New Year 🎈🎊🎆
You're welcome Happy New year to you as well. 😊💛 #Believe - Feb
This got put in my recommendations, & perfect timing, honestly. I got hired at Apple 3 months ago, & even within this crazy pandemic -- I see how dedicated everyone is. Brilliant people, everyday, wanting to put the extra time in just to make things up to their standard. It's both exhausting & inspiring lol.
Good for you man.. god bless, keep up the great work!
are you still at apple?
@@ProgrammingP123 nope, no longer there. It was cool, just not the team I wanted to be on. Can’t really move around easily there either.
Looks like he just wanted passionate people who were ready to innovate not people who just wanted paycheck.
Nobody wanted a bigger paycheck than Steve. Let’s not forget that.
@@JK-vc7ie because god forbid the man who took all the risk receive a reward.
he wanted people who could create and he could take the credit, just like many other ecomaniacs before him. Without Samsung he'd have no ipod, iphone, and many other tech products, the reason why apple stopped innovating when Samsung started producing competing products... #surprise, the innovation came from Asia, not Jobs, not apple.
@@chrisdawes7270you have no clue what you are talking about lol none what so ever iPhone was before android lol they were the very first touch screen phone Steve jobs sued android for copyright infringement and apple won but yea and the ipod was the first digital mp3 player that could fit 1000 songs in your pocket
I was in IT for 25 years, starting as a programmer/analyst, then project manager. I always thought of projects as a river, my job was to make sure the boat moved in the right direction and remove any rocks before we hit them.
Thank you for sharing that with us Al. 😊 #Believe - Feb
Hey Evan, I like your videos. I hired people based on personality traits, of course speciality mattered, such as accounting etc... what also mattered training and following up. So I say hire people that are smarter than you, train them, then let them run. I started a couple of companies from the ground up and this worked for me.
Thank you for sharing with us. That's awesome to hear :) #BTA1211 Luka
This man, i must say is a phenomena!What he make other can only dreaming about.
Thank you for sharing and thanks for watching, Steven. #BTA479 Luka
But but Elon musk?
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Legend
what is the name of the documentary this clip is from? pls kindly put in the description!
I also want to know
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Please, can someone explain this contradiction??
Steve Jobs said that when Apple got big and to the point where they think that they can hire professional managers, he called them bozos because "they could manage, but they didn't know how to do anything. If you're insanely great, why would you want to work for someone that you can't learn anything from?" THEN, it cuts to the scene with the MBA literature major on the Macintosh team who is now working as a manager for manufacturing, whom has no experience in manufacturing.
Even though she's not a professional manager, she also does not know how to do anything in that field. She is an insider, and has highly organizational skills, but I don't see how that's much of a bump up (if it even is a bump up) than a professional manager that doesn't have any real experienced in that field and whom I'm sure is also highly organized just like her.
+Kenny Yee Embrace the #AND instead of seeing it as a contradiction. #BTA140
***** i'm confused
it could be that she has great communication skills and maybe she's a great team builder. It could be possible that Jobs didn't like "professional managers" because those types of managers are always bringing office politics into the work place and when you bring someone like that into a company like apple, it turns everything too political and stifles great ideas and innovation.
tanakattack is spot on.
GeoAl09
Management is not something you learn at a school. Many people are not organized, especially not specialists that are only interested in there field.
Traditionally the complete wrong things has been valued the highest.
Perfect! I’m so glad that his communication skills are brilliant! I adore his way to deliver the idea 💖😁
Glad you liked it. Hope it helps! 😊❤️ #Believe - Feb
On People"we want people who are INSANELY GREAT,-who had a PASSION .
On manager's "they knew how to manage, but they didn't know how to do anything". I value working with a team who can "do what is asked to do" and can "demonstrate" as well. What a visionary - why is this video not shown to the corporate world for simple logical leadership training?
He is a great leader indeed. Yes he had flaws like all of us, but overall he shared his vision with others and his team made something that didn't have to ever be if he kept it to himself. I like that visionaries see many things, and a lot of them don't share their talents with the world. They make things only for themselves. He could have done this as well and went to work at a job, but instead he shared his gift. I admire what he did. I write my ideas in books knowing that I won't always be here, so I hope to leave my love to carry on when I'm gone.
His work will always endure even when haters one day stop hating. Let him RIP please. Luvu
Nightrissa Georgiana Share your gift and make a dent for the greater good of us all. Push humanity forward.
Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts Nightrissa. Great points about Steve Jobs and great to know you are also taking action and doing what you love. All the best! :) #BelieveNation #BTA436 Shine
I think generally in good tech companies they seem to have more of a competency hierarchy than a power hierarchy (that might be more prevalent in other industries). This may be because in Tech, its easy to find out who does not know what they are talking about. And the self-policing culture Steve Jobs talks about ensures those people don't last. In banking infrastructure, in contrast...
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The single best video out of all that i have seen about Jobs.. The idea of hiring "generalists" (who go on to be insanely gr8 people) and dismissing specialists as bozos is what made apple Apple in the first place.. This was true in the early days of the company even before it got incorporated (in its days in the garage) up through the mid 80s and carried on even through the dark times of 90s at least in the engineering department. They always had great engineering and design talent even in the dark days. Thats because a lot (if not most) of engineering and design talent that had been there during the revolution of the company in the 70s and the mid 80s stuck around and carried on with the same old mantra, same ideologies that the place had once stood for. They continued hiring gr8 engineering and design talent like themselves. The infection was the upper executive people and managers. After Jobs's return, the company wiped out the so called "specialist" culture it had adopted in the upper managerial division in the 90s with bozo of CEOs and all the middle managers. The company from then onwards, resumed operating with the same philosophies it had had in the first place i.e. hire insanely gr8 people. And it still is true after he is gone..
Rahul Agarwal Thanks for sharing Rahul :)
I didn't hear the word "specialist" from jobs. I think that is your own philosophy.
I never worked so hard as I did when I was designing software. It is the nature of designing that takes you over.
Awesome! Keep going Dana. #Believe 💪💪😊 - Dondon
I was just talking to my husband about something similar. He was trying to suggest process, micromanage, etc. I told him to set down the goal, define the finish-line, and let that person figure it out. (He was talking to a type A adult who is not in our nuclear family.) I told him he can micromanage me and our kid, but not other people. I'm still hoping he gets it.
Thank you for sharing that with us, we wish you both best. 😊 #Believe - Feb
I worked with Steve in my trimester-year 1992-1993. He is an eager worker and really knows how computers have to 'talk'. He managed me somehow with computerizing and I still love computerizing especially with his programms. Thanks Steve.
Thanks for sharing. #Believe - Feb (from Evan's team)
A great and inspirational video Evan, very much apprciated! Thanks, Chris
Glad you're feeling inspired Chris! Thanks for watching! 💛😊 #Believe - Dondon
As Chrisann , his ex-girlfriend, said Steve Jobs looked like a fine prince at that time, incredibly intelligent and handsome.
😊💛 #Believe - Feb (from Evan’s team)
he looks like a fine prince to me, in this video, very handsome and very intelligent
THATS WHY WE CALL HIM LEGEND
+P. Vivek thanks for watching. #BTA142 Nina
1. Best people are self-managing
2. They don't want to be leaders but become, because no one else would do a better job than them
3. A leader articulates the main vision of the future, related to the people his working with
4. Understanding of the product you're offering and the details of it, they are the teachers
Thanks for sharing and watching, Jeff. 😊 #Believe - Feb
This is what getting the best person for the job looks like, no matter if it is a woman or man... You can't force the wrong person for the job
Exactly 😊 #Believe - Feb (from Evan's team)
Where to get the full documentary of this. Thanks.
You're welcome.
I'm interested to know how the manufacturing department changed after Debbie took over. Did it improve, or did it just run the way Steve wanted it to?
I'm sorry I don't know but thanks for watching. ❤️😊 #Believe - Feb
Apparently she stayed with Apple until 1992 and was promoted all the way to CFO, so it appears she was able to continue proving herself under the John Sculley administration, well long after Jobs had left. She made a ton of money and became an angel investor through the 2000s, but died last year.
Embedded software dev here...
I have worked at two companies with very motivated engineering departments... But...
The first company I worked at, management placed new fancy features at highest priority, where security and stability features where always of lowest priority.
Due to understaffed, 'low priority' is the equivalent of 'happens never'. Meanwhile the same management that creates the prioritization kept asking 'why the companies product' was so unstable and of bad quality.
The second company I worked at was even a bigger mess.
1. Nobody there (wanted) to understand the difference between 'embedded & front-end' developers. Even after explaining it like 20 times or so.
2. The mentality of prioritizing form over function. Where I had to waste 75% of my development time trying out each color in a color pallet until the graphical artist knew what he actually wanted.
3. Management giving the engineering department only 6 month's for a 10 month long project. Management also moving 50% of the engineering department staff to another project only 2 months later.
4. Management breaking one of the two prototypes only 3 weeks before deadline ('6' month long project), by trying to plug a mini USB cable into a micro USB slot, ripping the connector (including traces) of the circuit-board.
5. Management approving the designers and graphical artist to disassemble our only (lasting) working prototype 2 weeks before deadline (same project as the previous point). Because of a little (barely visible) error in the paint job. Something they could have fixed 4 months prior. For all information, yes they broke this second (and last) prototype only 2 weeks before deadline.
6. Management blaming the engineering department of bad planning, after the engineering department saved the 'big vip showcase' by frankensteining together a third working prototype (in less than a week) out of the leftovers from the previous (destroyed) two prototypes. (my ex-colleague that still works there keeps the backup prototype in his car to protect it from this Idiocracy).
7. Management starting to outsource engineering because (in their opinion) the internal engineering department doesn't do a good enough job. Where outsourcing is making development actually 5 times slower than before.
As a student I would never have guessed my job would be like working for a bunch of mindless toddlers, who have their own head stuck up so far their own buttocks, they think they are geniuses.
Now I work for a small startup where there is no (real) management, only the founders (engineers) forced into the function of a manager. Amazing how efficient that is compared to (real) managers...
Thanks for sharing your story #Believe :) #BTA1507 Veljko
I have a young man lodging at my house and is a friend of the family, he works for a call centre I referred him to, but lord do I see this lad as a total inspiration for his passion, and although I don’t know much about technology, I do know he knows more than me, but I can see the basics of this great young man being everything a great company would ever want. I can’t put my finger on every attribute he has but I know one day, through his core values, he will make it not just big but immense. He’s just that good. And I’m a fkn cynic to the core
Thank you for sharing that with us Roberta. 😊 #Believe - Feb
2:00
Be an example.
And also know that you need to step up as a leader because nobody will do a better job.
Thanks for sharing and for watching. 😊 #Believe - Feb
2:18 having worked in offices and seeing how many managers are, i couldn't agree with steve more here
Thank you for sharing with us and thanks for watching. #BelieveNation #BTA479 Luka
Steve named external managers by bozzos and that they don t know anything( thats True most of the time). But we do always need great managers Who have the passion in the vision of the company . John Sculley the ex manager in pepsi Cola was the one Who saved Apple at a time. He was recruted by steve Who persuaded him just by ' Will you pass your whole life selling water and sugger, or Will you work for something that Will change the world'
Amazing story, thanks for sharing this one. #BELIEVE - Ahmed 💛😊
Notice how he was the only one who didn't have hair or clothing that dated him to his decade. Good style is timeless.
Thanks for sharing! 💛😊 #Believe - Dondon
Yes, it’s true! Also, if you look at pictures of Hunter S Thompson from the 60’s he doesn’t look like a person from the 60’s (hair and dress)
look at the album covers of enrique iglesias (and most of his music videos). he wears generic clothing like steve did. and YES you can date his clothing and hairstyle. people did not wear open collar business shirts in the early 1900s. they wore suits and those hats. anything can indeed be dated.
Where is this footage from? Would love to see the full documentary.
We have posted our sources links in the description box. 😊 #Believe - Feb (from Evan’s team)
@@EvanCarmichaelhi, I don’t see any mention of the source though?
What sucks is that there are managers at Apple that try to emulate his style but don’t understand it in order to do it correctly.
❤️😊 #Believe - Ahmed
They don't really want to manage but feel they have to because nobody else can do as good as them.....
Pardon my language.. But i agree with every last F@#%ing thing mr jobs said.
I have constantly found that managers largely are idiots. Ive had to become a manager for the sole reason because i known what needs to be done and i get it done because everybody else is well frankly getting in the way.. I have great respect for leaders and managers whom i can learn from not idiots whom have been given a job because there cv has a good uni on it or daddys contacts set them up in the job.
We need do'ers and know'ers not mani'grs.
OnlyKnowsGod Thanks for sharing :)
god only knows I agree. I have been with different companies and the managers did nothing but micromanage everything but they could never do the job themselves, nor did they even know what the job entailed. I see this more from the midwest than the west coast. The west coast has more innovation, they take risks and get smart, ambitious people. The midwest continues to be behind because they continue to follow a safe route that is not working anymore and where nepotism and good ol boy beliefs still rule.
+ god only knows the truth
So everyone else sucks and you are one of the rare superstars. Right.
A great leader is everything for a company! There are so many insights we can learn from Steve Jobs, thanks for sharing Evan. I make sure we hire the best so that our company continues to grow and investing in our people so they can reach their full potential. The people are our business! :)
You're welcome, glad you liked it. Appreciate the love and support thank you. #Believe - Feb
Very informative and great videos you have over on your channel!
This is GOLD. The core basics and truths for anyone trying to elevate, create something and succeed.
Thank you for the support and for watching. 💛 #Believe - Feb
I’ve seen this before, but I don’t remember what the clip was taken from. Thanks!
You're welcome, glad you liked it. 😊 #Believe - Feb
Love it. “ professional management are bozos “ . True. HR as well.
Thank you for watching. 😊 #Believe - Feb
I find it kind of ironic that Steve Jobs said don't hire professionals and then hired John Sculley who got him fired.
+maclovindotca sometimes you don't always take your own advice :) #BTA95
Youre mistaken. Jobs didnt want Scully to be CEO, jobs wanted jobs to be CEO. But the board didnt think he was mature enough and so they looked for a "professional" that the shareholders would be happy about.
Sculley didn't really get Jobs fired. Jobs basically fired himself because he wasn't willing to having someone else in charge. Sculley didn't want him to leave. But, Jobs was unwilling to not act like the CEO.
@@felpswa123 No Sculley did not fire Steve. However a decision concerning the mac and marketing went up to the board and Steves idea lost, the board sided with Sculley. Steve hired Sculley to mentor him because he was not a seasoned CEO, plus I he did not want that role right then he wanted to help hands on to build computers in projects.
@@tombjornebark I don’t think that’s quite right. My understanding is that Sculley was hired by the board, who preferred someone external over Jobs in 1983. Jobs had already been forced from the CEO position in 1980 when Apple became a public company owned by shareholders. Jobs wanted the payout from going public but not to be controlled by shareholders. Quit when it became clear that he couldn’t have his cake and eat it too.
Steve is right! By FAR the worst managers I've ever had were at a big tech company (you've probably heard of). The managers' names were John Halv__ (dublin) and Kelly Kra__ (austin) -- and they were definition of managers who want to manage people and had no skills themselves. They loved terrorizing people and literally would say "keep them on their heels -- and laugh". Micromanagement galore: for example, taking notes about who sat on the couch in the office, or if you brought your guitar into the office to prevent it from cooking in the car and didn't even play it, they would book an intervention to talk about your 'professionalism'. what? this is a big tech company. on other teams, people don't wear shoes, and they come in at 10AM. but on their team, 7AM "butts in chairs". unbelievable. sociopaths. It took 3 years of trips to HR, and dozens of people quitting before we pushed them out. The team is now doing fantastic without them, even more productive than before. Turned out (surprise surprise), the team didn't need their 'management'. The team was about 40 people....times 3 years....that's 120 human-years of suffering all for nothing.
Sorry to hear that. Thanks for watching ❤️😊 #Believe - Ahmed
Excellent persuasion is the only skill that a manager actually really needs.
This sounds like the environment of the USPS. All the managers and supervisors are complete bozos and are a waste of space.
Fantastic video, full of great advice. So nice to see the team’s signatures inside the Mac.
Glad that you liked it. Thanks for watching 💛😊 #Believe - Dondon
@2:00 That's so true & unfortunately most management positions are given out (regardless of the type of business) on managerial skills rather than on performance or knowledge of the product or service. You get someone that's supposed to be a leader & is good at telling people "you have to do X or else you get in trouble" (And not all the time either when it comes to people with preferences for others & in some cases even fear of others) but isn't good at teaching people how to do X because they were never very knowledgeable or good performers to begin with so inevitably the company's operations become centered more around it's politics or employee policies than it does about the product or service it's self!
Thank you for watching, and for sharing 😊 #Believe - Feb ( from Evan's team )
Steve jobs and i went fishing once in 1993. He loved flounder
Really? That's awesome :) #BTA1407 Veljko
Excellent video, thanks for posting. Jobs may not have been right about everything regarding management, but he certainly hit some key ideas that most organizations are missing. Dull, uninspiring management is everywhere. One criticism I have though is that his team was pretty homogenous.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and for watching osmith1999. :) #BelieveNation #BTA278 Shine
Best management video ever
Glad you enjoyed it :) #BTA921 Luka
2:36 - 3:26. This is Pure gold- Steve Was a Brilliant man indeed-Let's be honest that would be a understatement - next level brain coherence.
Thank you for sharing that and for watching. :) #Believe - Feb
Is there a complete version of these interviews?
You can check our source, link is posted on the description box. 😊 #Believe - Feb
@@EvanCarmichael Thanks for the prompt reply! Cant see any source in the description though
@@srirampingali8998I also don’t see it. Did you find it?
Listening to Steve Jobs and his awesome coworkers I can understand why it became the top valued company in the world! Still all the brilliancy, technology and money couldn't beat the cancer that took him in the end..I guess the closest we have to Steve Jobs now is Elon Musk although they are very different personalities.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and for watching. 💛😊 #Believe - Dondon
best talent dont need be manage.
they need vision
Profesional manager is not the right recruitment, they dont know anything about ur company.
Hire someone when individually good n never experience be a manager, they are more better
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! :) #BTA1177 Luka
In india saif ali khan will be best suit to the play the character of steve jobs if they ever make a movie on him. OMG.. so much resemblance from steves younger days..
Thanks for sharing tbshr. ❤😊 #Believe - Dondon
what the fuck did you just say 🤣 and where the fuck you find similarity between them 🤣
Hahahaha great joke... saif ali khan can be great druggie on screen just like his real life
There is already a movie about Steve Jobs
@@harrypotter_petronus exactly 🤣🤣
Where can I find the whole interview?
You can check our source link in the description box. 😊 #Believe - Feb (from Evan’s team)
I love how they all spoke with such conviction
Thanks for the love. Glad that you enjoyed it. 😊 #Believe - Feb
"They knew how to manage, but they didn't know how to do anything" -- 2:07 .. I am still suffering from those management in 2020.
Thanks for watching. Practice makes perfect! ❤️😊 #BELIEVE - Ahmed
That lady manager was young and her position carried a lot of weight.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 😊 #Believe - Feb
what made him "exceptional" was being in tow to the great Woz.
Otherwise, he would have been the greatest used cars salesman in the bay area instead
We appreciate sharing your comment about him. Thanks for watching! 💛😊 #Believe - Dondon
why does this not show the date when it was posted ?
I understand its a clip from ages ago ... but i want to know when this guys evan carmichael posted the video .. and i cant seem to see it
It's in the description #Believe :) #BTA1622 Veljko
@@EvanCarmichael wow.. dont know how i missed that .. thanks for replying
Wow !!! Fantastic, Thank You for sharing Evan 👍 I watch all your videos. Very insightful 👍👍
Yayy - Thank you! Appreciate your feedback. #Believe - Feb
If all CEOs were like Steve, we would be on the the Mars for a decades now... But, alas, usually just a bunch of frustrated young people...
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. #BTA555 Shine
We would be on world war
Elon is like Steve. But better than him.
@@krishnamohan2351 cant compare elon to steve. Elon is a better human being steve used wozniak and he hated to help people. If all Ceos would be like steve the earth would be destroyed by 3rd world war
@@Teluric2 precisely. I said Elon is better than Steve. It'll take time for the world to realise this. Steve made a company that makes phones, laptops and smartwatches. Any other tech company can do that. Just not as good a job.
But no company in the world would have made EVs mainstream or made rockets reuseable. We're in a total different path of history because of Elon.
It’s interesting my experience is that those individual contributors start off with poor people management but in time grow into good leaders. But it takes time and plenty of mistakes
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. #BTA973 Luka
Steve Jobs..the rockstar who rocked the world! 😎
Thank you for the comment and for watching Akanqsha. :) #Believe #BTA617 Shine
Hhahhahhahahahahahah yeah.
Question for the community: how do you maintain an IC culture as you scale? At what stage is it actually best to begin implementing hierarchy (i.e. managers, VPs, etc.)?
Thank you for your comment and for watching. #Believe - Feb (from Evan's team)
Just gotta remember two things: 1) that you don't manage people - you lead them, and 2) in spite of all the employment matching methodologies that exist, very few people get into positions that fit them as well as described here. From the candidate side - ya gotta eat, ya gotta pay the bills... As a long time and extremely successful hiring sales manager I followed legal guidelines and company policy of course. After that I went for sharp people with work ethic and personality. Monk instead of TO, for example. I had stupefyingly low turnover for a sales department, and those veteran, happy employees produced consistently at a very high level.
🙌 #Believe - Feb
The woman @1:41 is 23 years old? well, she looks much older than that!.
Modern day 23 year olds look younger because they're more immature and talk and behave like retards. When you have upper class girls who are not influenced by pop culture too much, even when they're like 14/15 they act and behave like grown women. I have met quite a few girls who were around 15 but I thought were like at least 19 or 20, but not in the United States though (even though they exist in the US, but they don't appear too much, because like I said, they're usually upper class, and don't mingle or show off too much. Showing off is actually a pretty immature trait, that's why television and such are filled with drama whores).
that is what you took with you after seeing this video? LOL !!
@@CzechRiot /r/lewronggeneration
I thought it said she was 23 stone
Mind if i ask U, how old do u look?
It's a great video, thanks for sharing it. Of course history proves that Steve Jobs' management principles yielded great results, but he was also famous for his temperament and outbursts at employees. I'm sure you're familiar with the story of people employed at Apple afraid of finding themselves alone in the elevator with him. I wonder if he could have done even better with a higher degree of empathy!
Thanks for sharing that, and also for watching! 😊
#Believe - Feb
"they knew how to manage, but they didn't know how to do anything!"
Apple 2021
💛😊 #Believe - Dondon
I’m self managed and I’ve been fortunate enough to have had an awesome mentor for the last 7 years. Our relationship has grown into more of therapy for one another. She’s moved into a higher role at another company and I’ve taken a pay cut. I’m not good with social skills or networking, but I do well at my job and I share time saving tips with the coworkers I speak with so it’s not like I’m asocial but social skills get you farther than academic achievements, experience, work quality or work production.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and for watching. 😊 #Believe - Feb (from Evan’s team)
Where is this taken from? Who are those besides Jobs who are talking, and what became of them?
Kindly check the links on the description box, they are the references of the video. Thanks for watching! 😊 #Believe - Feb
@@EvanCarmichael
Dude, your description box is a freaking infomercial for your channel, and doesn't answer either of my questions.