Hey all! Since posting this video I've gotten a lot of comments and questions about the process and it would seem that by only showing one run through the loop in the video, I've confused many; that, and my failure to more clearly explain how you are able to also generate PP by doing the loop. Keep in mind that the loop is simply that, a loop. You need to repeat it over and over many times in order to produce the desired results. Below is a link to a Twitch highlight in which I did the loop live on stream during my playthrough of the western version of P5S. Hopefully it helps anyone who may still be confused. Link: www.twitch.tv/videos/956240186
Just clarifying the end of the process: once you finish the loop and get a jack-o-lantern with 99 all stats, if you register it that way, then resummon it from the registry, that resummoned persona will NOT have all the accumulated power. so what you essentially have to do is always keep track of which single persona has all the power, and keep fusing that persona around. so if you fuse your powered persona into some endgame persona like a yoshitsune, in order to keep your powered persona, you must register the gg yoshi, fuse the yoshi into something else (which now has all the power) and then resummon the yoshi from the registry to use in battle.
@@Drewsefer89 not really, a level 2 99 all stats jack o lantern only costs like 6k yen to retrieve. the most i've ever paid (lvl 99 all 99 stats) is like 60k
I couldnt find any glitch videos to post this on so heres where im posting it: In a Hack Battle if there's no enemies and you hold down L and R with joker he'll pull out and start charging his gun. The glitch is that enemies cant spawn in a hack battle while joker has his gun out, meaning you can cheese every hack battle by taking out wave one and using his neutral special indefinitely.
Legit, I think the huge thing here is the Persona Point farm for me. There may be a more effective way to get them, like looping in the final dungeon over and over getting masks, but this serves the purpose of getting persona stats up to max at the same time.
Unfortunately for Yoshi, he isn't as broken in SMT or Devil Summoner games as he is in Persona, this is cause their are many more demons in those games compared to Persona thus you have far stronger Hero Race Demons like Huang Di, Guan Yu and Masakado. Same said for Alice, she's only around level 50-ish in most SMT games. Still great Demons to have tho, but yeah they get easily out-powered later on unless you invest a lot of Mitama's into them.
Honestly I argue in strikers Yoshitsune is even more busted because I feel like he has the highest crit rate of any perosna in the game which makes him the ultimate reaper cheese lol.
I was really in a bind in the last Jail because I wanted to max out my personas/level up certain others in order to fuse into the best ones. Tried your guide out today and I'm swimming in points now lol. Thanks so much. I think that deserves a subscribe and I hope you got a lot more from this video.
The community: "sweet! Now I can have a full inventory of max stat personas!" Me realizing I can pull up to the final boss with a max stat level 1 Arsene and spam eiha: C O W A B U N G A I T I S
@@daviddunbar2851 i’m pretty sure you just fuse that jack o lantern with whatever persona is needed from the compendium to make an Arsené. I havent tried this method yet but from watching the video and reading comments it should work like that.
@Jude Esteban why would you hack you're girlfriends instagram account? That doesn't make for a very good relationship as trust is the key to love, you should have more faith in her.
For anyone who was slightly confused like me, once you have a maxed out persona you actually want, register that one then fuse it. as long as you keep the persona with the inherited power, you shouldnt ever have to do the loop again. Wasted a lot of time doing it a second time when I realized I could have just fused the maxed Alice\Yoshitsune down to pass on its inherited power
Just for some help, could you explain the fusion line that you used in order to get Alice and Yoshitsune. What persona did you max stat, and then the sequence of fusions needed.
decided to use this method when i got to the Osaka level, now im breeeezing thru the endgame. excited for newgame+ now lol. Thanks for the video! appreciate the work!
@@JagrasSneedandFeed I can confirm merciless is ridiculous. First mini boss in the first palace can two shot you with base Yoshitsune equipped and best defense gear.
Honestly just Max the Money drop bond skill and the treasure demon skill. Get security level above 90% and BAM profit because treasure demons quickly spawn netting you 60-150K each. Doing this in the later palaces also make you big bucks
@@ultima1033 It's one of the quests from Lavenza that is required for unlocking NG+. It will be to fight a specific Persona which will spawn right outside where you fight the final boss.
Thanks for the guide mate, it was clear and easy to understand. I finally got into the point in the game where I can start messing around with the endgame personas and just started doing my first fusion loop.
I did this in osaka since i wasnt sure how to organize my chosen personas (and since it was getting slightly tougher), and i fully understand the loop ! I decided to screenshot where you showed the written version of the loop with the color-based key and that helped me figure the whole thing out alongside doing it firsthand. got me a max state arsene, seth, jack frost and mitra like this for now. Im lv 66 joker and i will try to do this with alice soon since shes a lv 75 softcap on level. Might have to dig through my in game list to forge the ingredient personas though since she needs 4. Hopefully i encounter at least 2 of the ingredients if i havent already to lessen the fishing i will have to do in game aand i got the medium strength almight move (forgot the name atm) on all those personas too which is good if i dont have a weakness on hand
There is a shorter, but less efficient loop available before being able to summon a a Jack Frost. 1 Arsene + 6 Silky = 11 Succubus 11 Succubus + 12 Slime = 16 High Pixie 16 High Pixie + 2 Jack-o'-Lantern = 1 Arsene You could probably put stats on the Jack and Silky, but you would be able to access this before being able to directly improve stats of your personas.
Yeah there are a few loops. The one I recommended was specifically so you had time to build up more PP after boosting Pixie. If PP isn't an issue then doing a shorter loop works perfectly fine.
Can you make a guide starting from the beginning and ending with lucifer so we can see the whole process??? It's really confusing and maybe seeing the entire process from start to finish would be really helpful. Thanks.
I spent 10 minutes noting everything down in a google doc and then got to the part where you just recapped it in the most concise manner I can think of, GG man
Thank you so much for your guides, you’ve helped me get the platinum! The last trophy was a grind for real but you made it better than if I had tried on my own lol.
Can you suggest me somethings what should do next, i have 2 trophies left, max bond and mask connoisseur trophy. I have completed %86 of personas i think only Ng+ personas left but the problem is merciless difficulty gives me hard times. I m able to reached 2nd jail btw but i can not slay that snake direshadow.
@@reshaykut for all personas only Lucifer you have to get in new game plus so whatever you’re missing you’ll have to look up how to fuse them or something. I actually did farm the 2nd dire shadow on merciless with Lucifer, I leveled him up for morning star and gave him dormina. Put them to sleep and cast morning star for technical damage. I also cast debilitate and heat riser for extra damage and such. It takes a long time. If you can’t beat the second fire shadow farm the 1st one, it’ll take longer but do what you need to do.
I had a question: Concerning accidentally registering a persona in the loop with higher stats and it costing more as a result: I was planning to make fresh fusions of Jack O Lantern and Pixie with minimal boosts for starting the loop over at a different time, but would doing this completely break the accumulated power loop? Like, for instance, if I fused until I got a max stat Arsene, then fused the fresh Jack and Pixie, but never used the Arsene in the process of doing this, could I then go back, fuse the Arsene into something else, and that accumulated power boost still run?
Late response but the accumulated power stays in tha individual persona, it doesn't go into the register. As long as you keep the persona who is now holding the power with you, personas created from it will always inherit the power. If you delete that persona and try to resummon it, it will still have the status but not the accumulated power.
Thanks a bunch for this I started doing this today. I got an accident during one of my fusions and got a lvl 88 trumpeter it’s a ton of fun watching the stats increase by huge amounts in later cycles
@@Laevatei1nn look through the fusion list from most any accident you can fuse back into the list, look at what higher lvl personas can fuse back into the loop like Thor and then go further back on what you need to fuse Thor or a persona needed to fuse for a persona needed for Thor.
Hi, can i ask u a question? While doing the loop i accidentally got Raja Naga with 99 stats on magic, endurance and agility. I tried to fuse it back to the original persona in the loop but the stat decreased overtime. I'm now with bicorn with only 99 stats on strength and endurance. The other stats only got 30 points or so. It's like the stat before i got into the fusion accident. Do you have any idea? Because i thought the stat point wouldnt decrease 😭
Thank you for breaking the game for me before I even get to play, and I do not mean that in a bad way either lol. Can I make an Arsene with 99 in all stats ?
I'm pretty sure you can, and based on this guide it's easy: Follow the steps in this video till you get Jack-o'-lantern with 99 in all stats, then fuse it with a high pixie
You can make any Persona with 99 in all stats with this. As I mention in the video, once you have your 99 stat Persona you then use that as a base for future fusions and continue fusing until you get to the Persona you want.
@@RozalinGaming Or... you have luck like me (unlucky fucker) who makes everystep in this video.. come a long way and theeeeen.. Fusion fails and you get something totally different then you was suppost to get.. XD now im lvl 41 and have a persona with 91mag XD
Thank you for explain this method! I really got confused about this farm thing and I can understand better now. Oh, and you explain very well! Congrats! 😉😃✌️
Merciless is wack. On top of getting 2 shot, you dont get to retry battle. I thought that was really stupid and arbitrary, the difficulty alone was enough
Just everyone else. If you got a fusion failure its actually an advantage as you get extra point and persona points. For next fusion just choose the lowest lvl persona that you can combine. You will eventually get the persona that is in the loop again.
Questions: 1. How often should I continue the loop when now in my case Bicorn reaches the 99 points in every stat? Should I continue the loop until the acculumated power is always 99 in every stat with any persona of the loop? 2. The personas that have all stats maxed can be registered then? The Jack O Latern for example from the loop.
@@truthfuldrake278 idk I was just giving a suggestion on what the problem may be, based on what I'd heard from people who know a lot more about the game.
You don't necessarily need all 99 STATs in Jack o' Lantern to max out future personas in my experience. I started the final loop for Yoshitsune and my Jack o' Lantern had 56 in Luck IIRC and 99 on everything else. Literally every single persona on its way to Yoshitsune had all 99 stats after the fusion, so it really isn't necessary to have a full max stat Jack o' Lantern as long as 4 STATs are at 99.
@@raryalz9084 but I’m a little confused cause the stats do go up to 99 but as soon as i create a new persona, the stats get all get randomized. I’ll still have 99 on 1 or 2 sometimes 3 stats but I had 99 on 4 stats with the previous persona so what gives? Is it random/luck based on what you get when you create a new persona? I reached 99 on all my stats with 1 or 2 personas already but that was when I got the “failed” creation, this shits weird man.
For anyone that might get an accidental fusion, it's easy to get back into the loop. But it's pricey. Just take whatever persona you got and fuse backwards by level. I got Mithras and fused back into Kikuri-Hime to Koppa-Tengu and so on. It was a pain but now I'm back on step 7. That absolute fuck up got me to go from 100k Persona points to 3.4 million though soooooooooo
Yeah I had an accidental fusion happen too with a stat buffed jack o lantern and a stat buffed pixie and ended up getting one of those Hindu looking personas. I was gonna do what you said but Registering/deleting it is nutty points. 99 in all stats except for agility with is like 68 but I registered it and found out once I delete it, it gives me like 1.4 million Persona points, lol. 45K to summon it, so basically 45K, right now, = 1.4M PP.
Ok, so I just recently finished the main game and am currently preparing for the reaper. This method is crazy. It ...almost works completely for me. For some reason, everything maxes out on Jack o lantern save for luck. Side note: Any tips on a good fusion calculator for strikers?
I wish I knew about this beforehand or at least checked it out before I completed the game. I made the mistake in registering Personas as I progressed through the game, hence not having many PP points. Currently in post game preparing for the Reaper.
Sorry if this is a dumb question: So I got my Bicorn with max stats, and my next step is to fuse into the Personas that I want. But when I fused my Bicorn into the next Persona, the new Persona didn't retain the max stats (the luck wasn't maxed but the rest of the stats were maxed) . Am I doing something wrong?
Hey I think I actually figured it out. Some personas do have stats that are intentionally slow to level up, so to retain max stats you either need to go through more iterations through the persona loop to gain more accumulative points in ONE of the personas you fuse, or you get two less accumulated personas to fuse together. Using this method I was able to get max stats on every persona in the game
So to be clear don't register the fusion material unless you want to keep its stats but want to fuse it into a stronger persona And then when it's the stronger persona but you still want to fuse register that monster and fuse that one that has the accumulated the buy another one of the one your using for later use
Is it safe to register the Jack? I know the accumulated power of a pulled persona is 0, but will it really not transfere ANY points to a fusion? Like, i pull two max personas out of the book, fuse them, do i just get the base fusion result with trash stats?
So by doing this loop I would create a persona with max stats, however upon my next fusion one of the stats would be significantly lower like in the 60s, why is this and what am i supposed to do from there
Thank you for the video I just have one question. I have a maxed stat persona but when I fused that persona into another one 4 of the stats have 99 and the last one is usually around 40-80. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks
This isn't fully known why it happens. The theories are that: accumulated power inheritance has some level of variance to it; and/or some Persona simply can't have stats go above a certain threshold via fusion. If it's the latter, it seems to only affect a small number of lower level Persona. All of the high end Persona I've fused have not had this happen.
@@RozalinGaming it happened to my Arsene. With a 99 x5 High Pixie and 99x5 Pyro Jack Arsene got 99 in everything but Luck which was at 40. I think it just has something do with a Persona’s inherit stat growth since I’ve noticed that Arsene in particular has a terrible luck growth as opposed to his other stats.
@@Laevatei1nn you want to find a fusion that would be ame no uzume + __ = one of the persona in the chain (jack Frost, lamia, etc). Might take couple of fusions to turn ame no uzume into one of the persona in the loop. For me I got yatagarsu as the accident and I used yatagarsu to get a persona in the chain (I don’t remember off the top of my head). Luckily I only had to do this once to get back into the “loop.” You just have to play around with the fusions and mess around it, and you should eventually find something (or be fancy and use something like the persona fusion calculators online if there is one for this game)
@@Laevatei1nn well for starters.. let say u get a high level personas... Go to the fusion, then go to fuse by level sort, press square to sortie..... Then start looking from the lowest(highest level possible that are equal or lower to the persona you had).... Then try to find a persona that use ur current persona for fusion... You will find few of them.. then make surevwhich one can evolve to a persona that you wanted. This way you can even set a plan to fuse or down fuse based on that sortie... Just make sure to save before doing so. It's certainly easy...
None of my Persona shown at the beginning have Null skills; all nulls/resists/absorbs are innate to those Persona. As for the skills I used, all were obtained via passing skills down through fusion. I will be doing videos covering how I made each one.
i have a question so i already got max stat persona on bicorn after 8x/9x repeat but when i fuse bicorn to other persona, it didnt get the max stat, only 4 stat have 99, the one is 79 or random what should i do ? should i keep repeating the process until i got guaranteed 99 all stat ?
Thank you for this dropped you a like and comment. The guide I looked up online didn't explain why you need to do a chain loop so when I made a high start pixe I combined her with somthing then bought the pixie back to carry on the chain and was wondering why stats barely moved so I kept buying back an expensive pixie with high stats but no carryover bonus
Fusing persona counts as releasing them and releasing persona gives you PP with the amount calculated based on the released persona' level and stats. I think I mentioned this in the video but I could have forgot to.
@@kawaiibatman you get PP every time you fuse persona since the games thinks you released what was used in the fusion, and releasing persona gives you PP.
@@kawaiibatman don’t know if you’re aware now but Yea pretty much. When you keep fusing personas you’re getting pp which you then use to invest into personas by small(20 for every stat) and 20+ when you get in the millions. The higher the stats the more pp you’re going to get I think.
Just did this method for an hour and a half and got all my progress to reset from a fusion accident I couldn't put back into the loop. Will try this again tomorrow...
Hey Roz, thank you so much for this guide. Though I understand very little of it, i have been able to slowly get higher stats via this loop. I had a few questions that I'd love cleared up if you have a second! 1. I have gotten to the point where my Jack o' Lantern has 99 in MA, EN, and AG but lower stats in ST and LU. I've actually noticed these numbers going lower as frequently as they go up, and I have reached a bit of a standstill in the loop about 2 hours in. Am I doing something wrong? I accidentally registered my Pixie at 21 stats, is that the reason? 2. Do I need to repeat the loop until all of the fusions result in 99s? Or is JO'L enough? I know I'm not supposed to register my JO'L at max stats, but if I want to use it for another fusion route can I just combine Jack Frost and Pixie again to get the max stats JO'L? 3. Let's say I mess up and accidentally register the involved personas at their high stat levels. This means these stats won't carry forward into future summons, right? So am I screwed? 4. Let's say I want to create your amazing Sarasvati build. Am I guaranteed to get max stats on it if I build up from the JO'L base? (I.e. Bicorn and Pixie into Silky for Divine Grace, then so on and so forth?) Thank you so much! Edit: seems that every persona's value is dropping per loop, not just Jack O' Lantern Edit 2: after continual looping, after an hour the stats have begun to approach 99 for most of the personas!
1) There is an inherent randomness to it and sometimes the stats of persona just won't increase (we never figured out why in the JP community). If this happens, just assume you are done since it won't affect higher level persona due to their naturally higher base stats. 2) You actually don't want to register Jack-o'-Lantern at max; and also, you don't have to end the loop on him either. You can end on any persona in the loop. If you register a persona from the loop though, and then fuse it away and pull it out again, the one pulled out won't have accumulated power. What you do is take the persona that hit max stats and use that as a starting point to fuse the persona you want; then, you use whatever you made as the new starting point, etc. 3) Persona pulled out of the compendium will have the stats gained from fusion but not the accumulated power to pass on. 4) I actually have a Sarasvati build guide video that uses persona from the loop in the fusion process. If you end your loop on one of those and fuse it into the fusion chain for the Sarasvati then the Sarasvati will have max stats.
@@RozalinGaming Yo, so I just got this game recently due to it being free on PS+. Started the game on hard and i’m having a blast with it and unfortunately I’m nearing the final boss, I believe. I wanted to level up some of my persona’s/acquire the big ones that you have to accept a mission for and beat and I wanted to nail those “extra tough” challenge enemies in each respective jail. I followed this guide today and it worked quite well. It only took maybe twenty minutes and then I got a super beefed up high level unit from one of those “accidental fusions” - 99 in all stats and only 68 in agility. I registered it since it’s pretty damn good and I noticed I can spend like 45K Yen to summon it and then delete it for like 1.4 Million persona points. Is that the purpose of this loop? To amass a unit with such large stats that you can summon it for a relatively low price and then deleting it for points so I can put it on other units? Just curious, this is pretty cool. I like this game WAY more than the previous Persona 5. The other one felt like you had to play absolutely perfect in order to get the best bonuses (relationships/bonds/etc) but this one feels more casual. Casual in the sense of knowing what you have to do, not casual in the sense of combat because I got my ass beat a handful of times early on in Alices jail and a little in the second jail.
@@TrueComboKing No. The point of the loop is to make a max stat persona with AP (accumulated power) so that you can start to fuse end-game persona with max stats in preparation for Merciless mode on NG+. You can technically use PP to max the stats of persona too, but this is extremely inefficient and would take so much money and PP that it's not worth it at all. By doing the loop, you just naturally generate PP and by the time you get a max stat persona you should never need PP again (you'll actually have more than you could spend, unless you are using PP to max stats, which again, isn't worth it). Because of this, pulling a persona out of the compendium and then getting rid of it to get PP is just a complete waste of money and time. An example of how to make use of the loop: 1) Do the loop until you get a max stat persona. 2) Finish the loop on Hua Po. 3) Fuse that max stat Hua Po (which has your AP) with Fortuna to make a Lilith with max stats (you Lilith now has your AP so even if you had registered Hua Po and pulled her out she CAN'T be used to make another max stat persona due to no longer holding AP as Lilith now has it). 4) Fuse Lilith, Nebiros, Bugs, and Dominion to make Alice. Congrats! You now have an Alice with max stats. 5) Use Alice somewhere in the fusion process to make your next end-game persona (ideally after she's level 90 for Spell Master). 6) Repeat the process. Once you've done the loop once you should never need to do it again so long as you never get rid of the persona that currently has your AP.
I've done 3 loop's with 5 stats at 99 for some persona but every time i fuse a jack o lantern he is ony 74 in luck. It's impossible form some persona to be 99 in all stats?
I can't tell if it's just my bad luck but I can't get any persona's luck to 99, sometimes with the endurance stat, I don't know if I did anything wrong I even allocated more Persona Points to Pixie with her stats P.S I've been doing this for almost 16 hours
I've been registering all my personas I've been getting with 99 in all stats. It doesn't increase their cost to pull out of the compendium, so I don't see the harm in doing that.
@@TheDeatharcana just wanted to know, I just made a max stat yoshitsune, if I register it do I still have the accumulated power to pass on to another persona?
@@grugheffley6615 as in, you registered it with the accumulated power, and then pulled it out of the compendium for fusion material? I believe that when they're summoned off the compendium, they don't have that accumulated power anymore. I haven't done any in depth testing on it myself, just what I've observed from my own experience.
@@grugheffley6615 I'm positive they retain it. I fuse them through a loop, register them for the stats, and eventually I'd fuse them away, and still get the accumulated power.
From the looks of it if you discard your max persona anytime you fuse from then on you get a huge stat boost. So if this is true what I'm thinking is if you repeat the process and discard again it will stack, and eventually no matter which personas you fuse you will always get a full stat persona. Is that true? In that case it maybe worth the hours it would take to get multiple fully max stat jack-o-lanterns so you can easily get every persona to have max stats.
@@MrTheDerper yeah same every loop i go through doesn't solve the issue, it feels like fusing persona sometimes leads to lower stats, and then they get boosted again with the exception of 1 stat lagging behind by a lot
That said you don't need to spend persona points, it will just take longer- you could probably do it now. I grinded enough money to do it after the third jail.
@@RozalinGaming LazyGameReviews here on UA-cam I swear he looks just like you xD It's worth to give it a watch ! pretty fun stuff i'm on my way to the (what i think it is) the last boss of strikers i heard that the new game plus is behind some stuff.... like a final battle or something like this not sure tho happy holidays !!!
@@FabioGnecco NG+ is indeed locked behind a boss. I forget all of the quests necessary since it's been so long, but I know Lavenza's quests were needed.
@@RozalinGaming oh so it's like Soul Hackers 1 lol You have to defeat 5 bosses to play the new game + i'm playing on easy, so it should not be thaaaat hard hmmm
@@kildemal I ended up with a pixie after another fusion accident after randomly fusing personas to get at all max stats. Did benefit from it tho and now I have max stat Seth
Btw, if you get an accidental fusion but it's the persona from the infinite loop list then keep going down the loop, however if it's not that persona and has somewhat of a higher stats if you want you can register (But do not erase that powered up persona) and probably if you want go online and search up what it can be fused, till you find that required persona and keep going and if not there's the option to save before fusing personas so you won't have to panic if you get an accidental fusion (I somehow got a lvl 99 mot with all maxed out stats
I've tried going through the loop twice now and got fusion accidents that took me way, way off the loop, and I didn't know how to get back onto it without starting again. At this point I'm just going to save and restart at each step until it works the way it's meant to. Cue all the people who understand the game better than me telling me I'm dumb in three... two... one...
It's because I speak Japanese. No reason to wait for the western release; that, and I don't think P5S is anywhere near good enough to buy a second time, lol.
There is some level of variance, if everything except one stat is maxed you are basically done; I actually stop the loop when my stats get around the 80+ since by the time I take the loop Persona and make a end-game one with it, the end-game Persona will easily have max stats.
Had a fusion accident, thought it would take me some research to get it back on the loop but holy metatron it was legion which is a part of an Arsene fusion \o/
So I got a fusion accident and got Kikurihime. Her magic stat was at 96, and I fused her with Mokoi to get Silky to get back into the loop, but that Silky's stats are nowhere nearly as good as the previous Kikurihime. Is this supposed to happen?
Hey all! Since posting this video I've gotten a lot of comments and questions about the process and it would seem that by only showing one run through the loop in the video, I've confused many; that, and my failure to more clearly explain how you are able to also generate PP by doing the loop. Keep in mind that the loop is simply that, a loop. You need to repeat it over and over many times in order to produce the desired results. Below is a link to a Twitch highlight in which I did the loop live on stream during my playthrough of the western version of P5S. Hopefully it helps anyone who may still be confused.
Link: www.twitch.tv/videos/956240186
Just clarifying the end of the process:
once you finish the loop and get a jack-o-lantern with 99 all stats, if you register it that way, then resummon it from the registry, that resummoned persona will NOT have all the accumulated power. so what you essentially have to do is always keep track of which single persona has all the power, and keep fusing that persona around.
so if you fuse your powered persona into some endgame persona like a yoshitsune, in order to keep your powered persona, you must register the gg yoshi, fuse the yoshi into something else (which now has all the power) and then resummon the yoshi from the registry to use in battle.
Thank you for the clarification
Gg?
@@SORATHEHERO21 "gg" jsut means "good", it's short for "good game"
Is it extremely expensive to pull a persona from your registry with all 99 stats?
@@Drewsefer89 not really, a level 2 99 all stats jack o lantern only costs like 6k yen to retrieve. the most i've ever paid (lvl 99 all 99 stats) is like 60k
I couldnt find any glitch videos to post this on so heres where im posting it: In a Hack Battle if there's no enemies and you hold down L and R with joker he'll pull out and start charging his gun. The glitch is that enemies cant spawn in a hack battle while joker has his gun out, meaning you can cheese every hack battle by taking out wave one and using his neutral special indefinitely.
I accidentally do this as well
holy shit thanks gonna try that one out
THANK YOU! You saved me SO much grind time! All I want is Alice but raising those 4 Persona to 65 had me almost in tears! You are the best!
Legit, I think the huge thing here is the Persona Point farm for me. There may be a more effective way to get them, like looping in the final dungeon over and over getting masks, but this serves the purpose of getting persona stats up to max at the same time.
Yoshitsune being broken AF in SMT and Persona games is a MUST
Unfortunately for Yoshi, he isn't as broken in SMT or Devil Summoner games as he is in Persona, this is cause their are many more demons in those games compared to Persona thus you have far stronger Hero Race Demons like Huang Di, Guan Yu and Masakado. Same said for Alice, she's only around level 50-ish in most SMT games.
Still great Demons to have tho, but yeah they get easily out-powered later on unless you invest a lot of Mitama's into them.
@@dantemustdie00 SMT V Yoshitsune kinda shnasty. Probably so that it seems more familiar to players who've only played persona.
Unfortunately he's not broken in raidou's games
Pq2 tho 😥
Honestly I argue in strikers Yoshitsune is even more busted because I feel like he has the highest crit rate of any perosna in the game which makes him the ultimate reaper cheese lol.
I was really in a bind in the last Jail because I wanted to max out my personas/level up certain others in order to fuse into the best ones. Tried your guide out today and I'm swimming in points now lol. Thanks so much. I think that deserves a subscribe and I hope you got a lot more from this video.
The community: "sweet! Now I can have a full inventory of max stat personas!"
Me realizing I can pull up to the final boss with a max stat level 1 Arsene and spam eiha: C O W A B U N G A I T I S
How do I fuse this jack o lantern and make an arsene
Or any of these persona in fact
@@daviddunbar2851 i’m pretty sure you just fuse that jack o lantern with whatever persona is needed from the compendium to make an Arsené. I havent tried this method yet but from watching the video and reading comments it should work like that.
@@daviddunbar2851 Jack o' lantern lvl2 + High pixie lvl 16 = Arsene
It’s weird that you can fuse higher lvl personas to get a lower lvl persona
3 years later and these guides still help!
I'm gonna abuse this to recreate the Uber Pixie from Nocturne
@Jude Esteban Oh my god you’re exactly right! No one does give a shit.
@Jude Esteban why would you hack you're girlfriends instagram account? That doesn't make for a very good relationship as trust is the key to love, you should have more faith in her.
@Julius Sam You too.
@Jude Esteban How long did it take for her to slap you with a PFA?
guys they're bots just ignore them
For anyone who was slightly confused like me, once you have a maxed out persona you actually want, register that one then fuse it. as long as you keep the persona with the inherited power, you shouldnt ever have to do the loop again. Wasted a lot of time doing it a second time when I realized I could have just fused the maxed Alice\Yoshitsune down to pass on its inherited power
Just for some help, could you explain the fusion line that you used in order to get Alice and Yoshitsune. What persona did you max stat, and then the sequence of fusions needed.
I can used that registered maxed jack o lantern every time I fused personas? And not to start from the bottom pixie?
I've been waiting for this!
Is that an Akhiko reference
Mmmmmm protein
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decided to use this method when i got to the Osaka level, now im breeeezing thru the endgame. excited for newgame+ now lol. Thanks for the video! appreciate the work!
Got two consecutive fusion accidents while doing this, that's pretty lucky. Also all of the accidents were part of the loop (slime and jack o lantern)
Man, I wish I knew this beforehand, i just got to the last story dungeon. At least everything is under 50
So stuff isn't *too* expensive
This is mostly only useful for merciless, I never had any trouble on hard, only using "regular" personas
@@JagrasSneedandFeed I can confirm merciless is ridiculous. First mini boss in the first palace can two shot you with base Yoshitsune equipped and best defense gear.
Now all we need is a quick cash video and we'll be golden. Lol
Honestly just Max the Money drop bond skill and the treasure demon skill. Get security level above 90% and BAM profit because treasure demons quickly spawn netting you 60-150K each. Doing this in the later palaces also make you big bucks
Best place to farm money (and at the same time experience and Bond) is a post-game quest that you just repeat over and over.
@@RozalinGaming Really now? Good to know.
Any specifics or will I know the quest when I see it?
@@ultima1033 It's one of the quests from Lavenza that is required for unlocking NG+. It will be to fight a specific Persona which will spawn right outside where you fight the final boss.
@@RozalinGaming Sweet! Thnx
Thanks man for sharing this tip, really apreciate this , cheers from brazil.
Thanks so much my guy I'm a big advocate for Arsene being fucking pog so having him be stronger than the rest of my Persona's makes me very glad
Thanks for the guide! I watched all of your P5S vids so it would help me when I got the game a few days ago! Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the guide mate, it was clear and easy to understand. I finally got into the point in the game where I can start messing around with the endgame personas and just started doing my first fusion loop.
My god, I kept messing up my registrations in the beginning thank you for making me realize what I have done lol
@@Fabio-ql5yf Lavenza asks you if you want to register higher stat personas before fusing them, commenter probably picked yes on accident
I did this in osaka since i wasnt sure how to organize my chosen personas (and since it was getting slightly tougher), and i fully understand the loop ! I decided to screenshot where you showed the written version of the loop with the color-based key and that helped me figure the whole thing out alongside doing it firsthand.
got me a max state arsene, seth, jack frost and mitra like this for now. Im lv 66 joker and i will try to do this with alice soon since shes a lv 75 softcap on level. Might have to dig through my in game list to forge the ingredient personas though since she needs 4. Hopefully i encounter at least 2 of the ingredients if i havent already to lessen the fishing i will have to do in game
aand i got the medium strength almight move (forgot the name atm) on all those personas too which is good if i dont have a weakness on hand
tip: if at any point you get a jack frost go back and make a jack o lantern for saving money
I should’ve watched this video before your fusion guide videos haha. Looks like I’m attempting this loop tomorrow!
There is a shorter, but less efficient loop available before being able to summon a a Jack Frost.
1 Arsene + 6 Silky = 11 Succubus
11 Succubus + 12 Slime = 16 High Pixie
16 High Pixie + 2 Jack-o'-Lantern = 1 Arsene
You could probably put stats on the Jack and Silky, but you would be able to access this before being able to directly improve stats of your personas.
Yeah there are a few loops. The one I recommended was specifically so you had time to build up more PP after boosting Pixie. If PP isn't an issue then doing a shorter loop works perfectly fine.
Always making the best SMT content. Thanks a bunch.
Thanks Roz! Uploaded exactly on my lunch break ^^
Can you make a guide starting from the beginning and ending with lucifer so we can see the whole process??? It's really confusing and maybe seeing the entire process from start to finish would be really helpful. Thanks.
Thank God I can watch a video without the fear of spoilers
Me who wants to keep arsene since he’s viable in this game: now this, this is epic
He was viable in persona 5 too. Just had to give em a little bit of building and he became one of the best personas for almighty damage sweeping
I wanted to look this up before i got the game
smart man, i wish i had
Holy shit why didn’t I discover this earlier. You are amazing!
I spent 10 minutes noting everything down in a google doc and then got to the part where you just recapped it in the most concise manner I can think of, GG man
Damm Should have watched this before I started merciless at registered the high level persona's
So funny man! 😁 Great extra bits at the end too!
Thank you so much for your guides, you’ve helped me get the platinum! The last trophy was a grind for real but you made it better than if I had tried on my own lol.
Can you suggest me somethings what should do next, i have 2 trophies left, max bond and mask connoisseur trophy. I have completed %86 of personas i think only Ng+ personas left but the problem is merciless difficulty gives me hard times. I m able to reached 2nd jail btw but i can not slay that snake direshadow.
@@reshaykut for all personas only Lucifer you have to get in new game plus so whatever you’re missing you’ll have to look up how to fuse them or something. I actually did farm the 2nd dire shadow on merciless with Lucifer, I leveled him up for morning star and gave him dormina. Put them to sleep and cast morning star for technical damage. I also cast debilitate and heat riser for extra damage and such. It takes a long time. If you can’t beat the second fire shadow farm the 1st one, it’ll take longer but do what you need to do.
One of my stats has been stuck on 57 and it’s driving me insane, good video though
I had a question: Concerning accidentally registering a persona in the loop with higher stats and it costing more as a result: I was planning to make fresh fusions of Jack O Lantern and Pixie with minimal boosts for starting the loop over at a different time, but would doing this completely break the accumulated power loop? Like, for instance, if I fused until I got a max stat Arsene, then fused the fresh Jack and Pixie, but never used the Arsene in the process of doing this, could I then go back, fuse the Arsene into something else, and that accumulated power boost still run?
save your game and then find out, only one way to know
Late response but the accumulated power stays in tha individual persona, it doesn't go into the register. As long as you keep the persona who is now holding the power with you, personas created from it will always inherit the power. If you delete that persona and try to resummon it, it will still have the status but not the accumulated power.
This video is so helpful! Thank you so much for patiently showing and explaining how to! :^D
I’m finally at the point to try this. Thanks so much 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Awesome content my dude!!!
Thanks a bunch for this I started doing this today. I got an accident during one of my fusions and got a lvl 88 trumpeter it’s a ton of fun watching the stats increase by huge amounts in later cycles
what to do after you got an accident? im confused what to do next
i accidently got lv 55 ame no uzume
@@Laevatei1nn look through the fusion list from most any accident you can fuse back into the list, look at what higher lvl personas can fuse back into the loop like Thor and then go further back on what you need to fuse Thor or a persona needed to fuse for a persona needed for Thor.
Hi, can i ask u a question? While doing the loop i accidentally got Raja Naga with 99 stats on magic, endurance and agility. I tried to fuse it back to the original persona in the loop but the stat decreased overtime. I'm now with bicorn with only 99 stats on strength and endurance. The other stats only got 30 points or so. It's like the stat before i got into the fusion accident. Do you have any idea? Because i thought the stat point wouldnt decrease 😭
And so it starts.
Thank you for breaking the game for me before I even get to play, and I do not mean that in a bad way either lol. Can I make an Arsene with 99 in all stats ?
I'm pretty sure you can, and based on this guide it's easy: Follow the steps in this video till you get Jack-o'-lantern with 99 in all stats, then fuse it with a high pixie
since you can resummon Arsene, this way should definitely work in my opinion.
You can make any Persona with 99 in all stats with this. As I mention in the video, once you have your 99 stat Persona you then use that as a base for future fusions and continue fusing until you get to the Persona you want.
@@RozalinGaming awesome
@@RozalinGaming Or... you have luck like me (unlucky fucker) who makes everystep in this video.. come a long way and theeeeen.. Fusion fails and you get something totally different then you was suppost to get.. XD now im lvl 41 and have a persona with 91mag XD
Sometimes you get lucky in accidents and the persona that comes out is a persona that’s still in the loop.
Do you eventually reach a point where every result will be 99 across the board and when do you know when you've reached it?
Thank you for explain this method! I really got confused about this farm thing and I can understand better now. Oh, and you explain very well! Congrats! 😉😃✌️
This seems like a essencial strat for Merciless mode, since u get 1 or 2 hit there.
@@Fabio-ql5yf yes, u would, thats why using this strat will net u alot of points, not to mention high level personas from the get go.
Merciless is wack. On top of getting 2 shot, you dont get to retry battle. I thought that was really stupid and arbitrary, the difficulty alone was enough
Thank you!! I was waiting for this specific video! Thank you!
I have a problem where everytime i fuse with a 99 stat persona it doesnt get the other persona to max level either.
Just everyone else. If you got a fusion failure its actually an advantage as you get extra point and persona points.
For next fusion just choose the lowest lvl persona that you can combine. You will eventually get the persona that is in the loop again.
Questions:
1. How often should I continue the loop when now in my case Bicorn reaches the 99 points in every stat? Should I continue the loop until the acculumated power is always 99 in every stat with any persona of the loop?
2. The personas that have all stats maxed can be registered then? The Jack O Latern for example from the loop.
For some reason even after multiple loops, some personas just refuse to max out that last stat, which is most of the time Luck
I heard that’s because the game may make it so some personas can’t have all max stats. I don’t know how true this but that may be why.
@@yourtsar824 if thats the case then how can he have the same personas at max stats?
@@truthfuldrake278 idk I was just giving a suggestion on what the problem may be, based on what I'd heard from people who know a lot more about the game.
You don't necessarily need all 99 STATs in Jack o' Lantern to max out future personas in my experience. I started the final loop for Yoshitsune and my Jack o' Lantern had 56 in Luck IIRC and 99 on everything else. Literally every single persona on its way to Yoshitsune had all 99 stats after the fusion, so it really isn't necessary to have a full max stat Jack o' Lantern as long as 4 STATs are at 99.
@@raryalz9084 but I’m a little confused cause the stats do go up to 99 but as soon as i create a new persona, the stats get all get randomized. I’ll still have 99 on 1 or 2 sometimes 3 stats but I had 99 on 4 stats with the previous persona so what gives? Is it random/luck based on what you get when you create a new persona? I reached 99 on all my stats with 1 or 2 personas already but that was when I got the “failed” creation, this shits weird man.
For anyone that might get an accidental fusion, it's easy to get back into the loop.
But it's pricey.
Just take whatever persona you got and fuse backwards by level.
I got Mithras and fused back into Kikuri-Hime to Koppa-Tengu and so on.
It was a pain but now I'm back on step 7.
That absolute fuck up got me to go from 100k Persona points to 3.4 million though soooooooooo
Yeah I had an accidental fusion happen too with a stat buffed jack o lantern and a stat buffed pixie and ended up getting one of those Hindu looking personas. I was gonna do what you said but Registering/deleting it is nutty points.
99 in all stats except for agility with is like 68 but I registered it and found out once I delete it, it gives me like 1.4 million Persona points, lol. 45K to summon it, so basically 45K, right now, = 1.4M PP.
ty for this comment, i was looking for this
When you get a 99 all Stat persona do u register it?
Sure
That’s what ima do
Or you can save before you do that
@MegaLuffy101 No leave that persona in Joker’s persona stack. If you register, it will lose the cumulative points when u fuse it into another persona
@@blujay4847 So you have to do this loop every time you want a new max stat persona?
Wow man this was so helpful!
Ok, so I just recently finished the main game and am currently preparing for the reaper.
This method is crazy. It ...almost works completely for me. For some reason, everything maxes out on Jack o lantern save for luck.
Side note: Any tips on a good fusion calculator for strikers?
I wish I knew about this beforehand or at least checked it out before I completed the game. I made the mistake in registering Personas as I progressed through the game, hence not having many PP points. Currently in post game preparing for the Reaper.
You can always get the base versions back by grabbing their masks and then registering those.
Sorry if this is a dumb question:
So I got my Bicorn with max stats, and my next step is to fuse into the Personas that I want. But when I fused my Bicorn into the next Persona, the new Persona didn't retain the max stats (the luck wasn't maxed but the rest of the stats were maxed) . Am I doing something wrong?
Yeah, I’m having the same problem with that luck stat
It seems some personas have limuts on which stats they have that can feasibly be maxed out so luck may be a limit for your chosen persona
Hey I think I actually figured it out. Some personas do have stats that are intentionally slow to level up, so to retain max stats you either need to go through more iterations through the persona loop to gain more accumulative points in ONE of the personas you fuse, or you get two less accumulated personas to fuse together. Using this method I was able to get max stats on every persona in the game
@@Plasma476 Idk why it happens (it may be due to the reason u stated) but yes, all I had to do was keep looping it and eventually it all worked out
This is pretty awesome, thanks!
Do you lose the accumulated stats on the base persona if you register it? I don't wanna make a mistake and have to do this again.
Yes, do not register the jack o lantern as when you re summon it won’t have the accumulated stat bonus anymore as it’s new.
So to be clear don't register the fusion material unless you want to keep its stats but want to fuse it into a stronger persona
And then when it's the stronger persona but you still want to fuse register that monster and fuse that one that has the accumulated the buy another one of the one your using for later use
Exactly. :)
Is it safe to register the Jack?
I know the accumulated power of a pulled persona is 0, but will it really not transfere ANY points to a fusion?
Like, i pull two max personas out of the book, fuse them, do i just get the base fusion result with trash stats?
brb gonna take my homie Arsene to the fusion spa to max out his stats
So by doing this loop I would create a persona with max stats, however upon my next fusion one of the stats would be significantly lower like in the 60s, why is this and what am i supposed to do from there
This deserves to be on Gamranx's "Things games keep hidden from you"
My stats on Jack o lantern are all maxed out except for luck being between 36-40 is this supposed to happen
Same, did you ever find a fix?
Holy crap that was an easy way to make a ton of points. Thank you so much for the guide. @-@
Thank you for the video I just have one question. I have a maxed stat persona but when I fused that persona into another one 4 of the stats have 99 and the last one is usually around 40-80. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks
This isn't fully known why it happens. The theories are that: accumulated power inheritance has some level of variance to it; and/or some Persona simply can't have stats go above a certain threshold via fusion. If it's the latter, it seems to only affect a small number of lower level Persona. All of the high end Persona I've fused have not had this happen.
@@RozalinGaming thank you very much!
@@RozalinGaming it happened to my Arsene. With a 99 x5 High Pixie and 99x5 Pyro Jack Arsene got 99 in everything but Luck which was at 40. I think it just has something do with a Persona’s inherit stat growth since I’ve noticed that Arsene in particular has a terrible luck growth as opposed to his other stats.
Fusion accident really sped up the process for me and netted me lots of persona points which I was running low on
And generate allot of pp too xD
what should you do after the accident? i ended up with lv 55 ame no uzume and confused
@@Laevatei1nn you want to find a fusion that would be ame no uzume + __ = one of the persona in the chain (jack Frost, lamia, etc). Might take couple of fusions to turn ame no uzume into one of the persona in the loop.
For me I got yatagarsu as the accident and I used yatagarsu to get a persona in the chain (I don’t remember off the top of my head). Luckily I only had to do this once to get back into the “loop.”
You just have to play around with the fusions and mess around it, and you should eventually find something (or be fancy and use something like the persona fusion calculators online if there is one for this game)
@@ixlness there's pixie, but when i fused it i barely got stat bonus, like only +3 in 2 stat while ame no uzume got like 30-20 in every stat
@@Laevatei1nn well for starters.. let say u get a high level personas... Go to the fusion, then go to fuse by level sort, press square to sortie..... Then start looking from the lowest(highest level possible that are equal or lower to the persona you had).... Then try to find a persona that use ur current persona for fusion... You will find few of them.. then make surevwhich one can evolve to a persona that you wanted. This way you can even set a plan to fuse or down fuse based on that sortie... Just make sure to save before doing so. It's certainly easy...
Now i just need to look up persona to go after and moves to put on them.
This is so helpful thank you
I will use this to create an OP Arsene because I'm so sad how the developers did him dirty statwise in this game 😭😭
How did you get all those nul skills along with the 99 stats is it a specific persona setup or cards???
I want to know that too
None of my Persona shown at the beginning have Null skills; all nulls/resists/absorbs are innate to those Persona. As for the skills I used, all were obtained via passing skills down through fusion. I will be doing videos covering how I made each one.
wow , i never think about it , awesome tip !
i have a question
so i already got max stat persona on bicorn after 8x/9x repeat
but when i fuse bicorn to other persona, it didnt get the max stat, only 4 stat have 99, the one is 79 or random
what should i do ?
should i keep repeating the process until i got guaranteed 99 all stat ?
yes repeat the process
Thank you for this dropped you a like and comment. The guide I looked up online didn't explain why you need to do a chain loop so when I made a high start pixe I combined her with somthing then bought the pixie back to carry on the chain and was wondering why stats barely moved so I kept buying back an expensive pixie with high stats but no carryover bonus
I’m curious, how does performing this loop give you persona points?
Fusing persona counts as releasing them and releasing persona gives you PP with the amount calculated based on the released persona' level and stats. I think I mentioned this in the video but I could have forgot to.
@@RozalinGaming
So you mean everytime you fuse a max stats persona in this process you get PP base on those max stats, too?
@@kawaiibatman you get PP every time you fuse persona since the games thinks you released what was used in the fusion, and releasing persona gives you PP.
@@RozalinGaming
Thank you
@@kawaiibatman don’t know if you’re aware now but Yea pretty much. When you keep fusing personas you’re getting pp which you then use to invest into personas by small(20 for every stat) and 20+ when you get in the millions. The higher the stats the more pp you’re going to get I think.
hecatoncheires on his way to say hi to me on the first part of the loop:
So basically this video shows you how to properly use your pp
Please stop... 🙄🥱
@@SilentAndy why?
@@SilentAndy what did he do
Just did this method for an hour and a half and got all my progress to reset from a fusion accident I couldn't put back into the loop. Will try this again tomorrow...
Hey Roz, thank you so much for this guide. Though I understand very little of it, i have been able to slowly get higher stats via this loop. I had a few questions that I'd love cleared up if you have a second!
1. I have gotten to the point where my Jack o' Lantern has 99 in MA, EN, and AG but lower stats in ST and LU. I've actually noticed these numbers going lower as frequently as they go up, and I have reached a bit of a standstill in the loop about 2 hours in. Am I doing something wrong? I accidentally registered my Pixie at 21 stats, is that the reason?
2. Do I need to repeat the loop until all of the fusions result in 99s? Or is JO'L enough? I know I'm not supposed to register my JO'L at max stats, but if I want to use it for another fusion route can I just combine Jack Frost and Pixie again to get the max stats JO'L?
3. Let's say I mess up and accidentally register the involved personas at their high stat levels. This means these stats won't carry forward into future summons, right? So am I screwed?
4. Let's say I want to create your amazing Sarasvati build. Am I guaranteed to get max stats on it if I build up from the JO'L base? (I.e. Bicorn and Pixie into Silky for Divine Grace, then so on and so forth?)
Thank you so much!
Edit: seems that every persona's value is dropping per loop, not just Jack O' Lantern
Edit 2: after continual looping, after an hour the stats have begun to approach 99 for most of the personas!
1) There is an inherent randomness to it and sometimes the stats of persona just won't increase (we never figured out why in the JP community). If this happens, just assume you are done since it won't affect higher level persona due to their naturally higher base stats.
2) You actually don't want to register Jack-o'-Lantern at max; and also, you don't have to end the loop on him either. You can end on any persona in the loop. If you register a persona from the loop though, and then fuse it away and pull it out again, the one pulled out won't have accumulated power. What you do is take the persona that hit max stats and use that as a starting point to fuse the persona you want; then, you use whatever you made as the new starting point, etc.
3) Persona pulled out of the compendium will have the stats gained from fusion but not the accumulated power to pass on.
4) I actually have a Sarasvati build guide video that uses persona from the loop in the fusion process. If you end your loop on one of those and fuse it into the fusion chain for the Sarasvati then the Sarasvati will have max stats.
@@RozalinGaming Yo, so I just got this game recently due to it being free on PS+. Started the game on hard and i’m having a blast with it and unfortunately I’m nearing the final boss, I believe. I wanted to level up some of my persona’s/acquire the big ones that you have to accept a mission for and beat and I wanted to nail those “extra tough” challenge enemies in each respective jail.
I followed this guide today and it worked quite well. It only took maybe twenty minutes and then I got a super beefed up high level unit from one of those “accidental fusions” - 99 in all stats and only 68 in agility. I registered it since it’s pretty damn good and I noticed I can spend like 45K Yen to summon it and then delete it for like 1.4 Million persona points.
Is that the purpose of this loop? To amass a unit with such large stats that you can summon it for a relatively low price and then deleting it for points so I can put it on other units?
Just curious, this is pretty cool. I like this game WAY more than the previous Persona 5. The other one felt like you had to play absolutely perfect in order to get the best bonuses (relationships/bonds/etc) but this one feels more casual. Casual in the sense of knowing what you have to do, not casual in the sense of combat because I got my ass beat a handful of times early on in Alices jail and a little in the second jail.
@@TrueComboKing No. The point of the loop is to make a max stat persona with AP (accumulated power) so that you can start to fuse end-game persona with max stats in preparation for Merciless mode on NG+. You can technically use PP to max the stats of persona too, but this is extremely inefficient and would take so much money and PP that it's not worth it at all. By doing the loop, you just naturally generate PP and by the time you get a max stat persona you should never need PP again (you'll actually have more than you could spend, unless you are using PP to max stats, which again, isn't worth it). Because of this, pulling a persona out of the compendium and then getting rid of it to get PP is just a complete waste of money and time.
An example of how to make use of the loop:
1) Do the loop until you get a max stat persona.
2) Finish the loop on Hua Po.
3) Fuse that max stat Hua Po (which has your AP) with Fortuna to make a Lilith with max stats (you Lilith now has your AP so even if you had registered Hua Po and pulled her out she CAN'T be used to make another max stat persona due to no longer holding AP as Lilith now has it).
4) Fuse Lilith, Nebiros, Bugs, and Dominion to make Alice. Congrats! You now have an Alice with max stats.
5) Use Alice somewhere in the fusion process to make your next end-game persona (ideally after she's level 90 for Spell Master).
6) Repeat the process.
Once you've done the loop once you should never need to do it again so long as you never get rid of the persona that currently has your AP.
@@RozalinGaming Ah, I see what you mean. I appreciate the response.
Got a new subscriber thanks for this info, man, really helped me out
I've done 3 loop's with 5 stats at 99 for some persona but every time i fuse a jack o lantern he is ony 74 in luck. It's impossible form some persona to be 99 in all stats?
Late response but the idea is to loop enough times that even the lowest status of a persona will reach 99 from the accumulated power.
I'm still in Sapporo, so never mind me.
I can't tell if it's just my bad luck but I can't get any persona's luck to 99, sometimes with the endurance stat, I don't know if I did anything wrong I even allocated more Persona Points to Pixie with her stats
P.S I've been doing this for almost 16 hours
I'm also having this issue with the same stats and I've done everything step by step how it's shown
same here
Same
Same
I just wanted to show my appreciation for this video. I hope you have a great day Rozalin!
Should i register jack o lantern once he gets 99 on all stats to fuse multiple personas with 99 all stats?
I've been registering all my personas I've been getting with 99 in all stats.
It doesn't increase their cost to pull out of the compendium, so I don't see the harm in doing that.
@@TheDeatharcana just wanted to know, I just made a max stat yoshitsune, if I register it do I still have the accumulated power to pass on to another persona?
@@grugheffley6615 as in, you registered it with the accumulated power, and then pulled it out of the compendium for fusion material?
I believe that when they're summoned off the compendium, they don't have that accumulated power anymore.
I haven't done any in depth testing on it myself, just what I've observed from my own experience.
@@TheDeatharcana no register them but they are still in your party, do they still maintain AP? Or would I have to fusion loop once more
@@grugheffley6615 I'm positive they retain it.
I fuse them through a loop, register them for the stats, and eventually I'd fuse them away, and still get the accumulated power.
From the looks of it if you discard your max persona anytime you fuse from then on you get a huge stat boost. So if this is true what I'm thinking is if you repeat the process and discard again it will stack, and eventually no matter which personas you fuse you will always get a full stat persona. Is that true? In that case it maybe worth the hours it would take to get multiple fully max stat jack-o-lanterns so you can easily get every persona to have max stats.
Would this work with Arsene?
Once you've made a 99 stat Persona you can literally make every Persona in the game with 99 in all stats.
Works like a charm. Now I have a max stats Lucifer ready for risky mode. Thank you very much for the video. Hope to see more in the future.
How? I’m stuck between getting all the persona in the loop to 99 stats but there is always a problem with my luck or endurance
@@gamingwiththeboybread1194 have you managed to overcome it? I'm having the same problem rn
@@MrTheDerper yeah same every loop i go through doesn't solve the issue, it feels like fusing persona sometimes leads to lower stats, and then they get boosted again with the exception of 1 stat lagging behind by a lot
What’s the earliest point in the story you can do this? I’m on the 4th Jail... (Thanks for the videos!)
Kyoto.
That said you don't need to spend persona points, it will just take longer- you could probably do it now. I grinded enough money to do it after the third jail.
@@alaranarmstrong3718 how much money did it take
dude, you look like LGR lol
thanks for the tutorial
strikers got me hooked in those last days of the year xD
Not sure who/what LGR is but glad the video was helpful for you!
@@RozalinGaming LazyGameReviews here on UA-cam
I swear he looks just like you xD
It's worth to give it a watch ! pretty fun stuff
i'm on my way to the (what i think it is) the last boss of strikers
i heard that the new game plus is behind some stuff.... like a final battle or something like this
not sure tho
happy holidays !!!
@@FabioGnecco NG+ is indeed locked behind a boss. I forget all of the quests necessary since it's been so long, but I know Lavenza's quests were needed.
@@RozalinGaming oh so it's like Soul Hackers 1 lol
You have to defeat 5 bosses to play the new game +
i'm playing on easy, so it should not be thaaaat hard hmmm
I got too many fusion accidents and I was forever in a loop....
Fusion accidents are useful. Check the calculator and get yourself back into the loop.
@@kildemal I ended up with a pixie after another fusion accident after randomly fusing personas to get at all max stats. Did benefit from it tho and now I have max stat Seth
Btw, if you get an accidental fusion but it's the persona from the infinite loop list then keep going down the loop, however if it's not that persona and has somewhat of a higher stats if you want you can register (But do not erase that powered up persona) and probably if you want go online and search up what it can be fused, till you find that required persona and keep going and if not there's the option to save before fusing personas so you won't have to panic if you get an accidental fusion (I somehow got a lvl 99 mot with all maxed out stats
I've tried going through the loop twice now and got fusion accidents that took me way, way off the loop, and I didn't know how to get back onto it without starting again. At this point I'm just going to save and restart at each step until it works the way it's meant to.
Cue all the people who understand the game better than me telling me I'm dumb in three... two... one...
Fusion accidents are unfortunately random so saving often isn't a bad idea.
2:45 is that because you wanted the game earlier?
It's because I speak Japanese. No reason to wait for the western release; that, and I don't think P5S is anywhere near good enough to buy a second time, lol.
I've done the loop 30 times now and everything on the jackolantern is maxed except for luck, which has gone down after some loops. bruh
There is some level of variance, if everything except one stat is maxed you are basically done; I actually stop the loop when my stats get around the 80+ since by the time I take the loop Persona and make a end-game one with it, the end-game Persona will easily have max stats.
Appreciate the help
Had a fusion accident, thought it would take me some research to get it back on the loop but holy metatron it was legion which is a part of an Arsene fusion \o/
Got a quick question. Why don't you register them into the compendium? Will registering a persona with the stat increase to the compendium ruin them?
Registering them makes them cost more to pull them back out for little gain since AP isn't transferred into the compendium.
So I got a fusion accident and got Kikurihime. Her magic stat was at 96, and I fused her with Mokoi to get Silky to get back into the loop, but that Silky's stats are nowhere nearly as good as the previous Kikurihime. Is this supposed to happen?