@@RomabooRamblings not enough Romaboo UA-camrs do videos about emperors post Commodus and crisis of the third century, idk a series of short vids about emperors might get a subscriber base going
A guide in Rome for tourists told me that when she had to speech about Etruscans or any other populations settled in italy (for exemple the Lombards), 99% of North Americans had never heard about them. She told me that many people from North America didn't know even that Rome nowadays is the capital city of the country. The guide I met was in the Pantheon.
Far too many people nowadays, especially Americans, don't care enough about history. Like... most people over here really only think of D-Day when they hear about Normandy, and not, y'know, the goddamn Normans themselves.
@@unioneitaliana7107 More like the Common person isn't taught ancient history of foreign countries. Ask Europeans where Native american tribes are located on a map would meet the same response. Generally we are taught brief knowledge of American history, trail of tears and native reservations, a little mexican history and wars fought with em, ww1 and ww2 and thats it. Schools should teach more about how to survive in the modern world rather than the history of countries 2000+ miles away.
@@dcethe6943 The final sentence you wrote needs no comment. Education should achieve the exact opposite of what you're saying: you can't live the present if you have no knowledge of the past. US is a failed country, your society is rotten, you don't even have a common culture inside your nation, you just live as members of multiple communities unable to merge into a unifying identity. Luckily us Europeans are moving away from this failed anglo-globalist junk. We're all happy if you stay in you little isolated continent not learning anything about the rest of the world, at least you're of no harm and you'll die out of diabetes and heart attack.
To say that northern Italy was just "Celtic" is an oversimplification and, to be fair, just bad: 1)there was an important presence of pre-indo-european people like the Liguri in the north west, a lot of Etruscan cities-emporiums and the Reti in the north-east 2) you forgot the Veneti, a people between the italic and the Illyrian groups, that had a strong cultural bound with the Latins (they always had relationships of "amicitiae", never of "foedus"...) and even with the Greeks: the Eneti, as they were called, are cited in the Iliad, and their region and people appears in Greek and Roman myths and folklore... And also to mention the importance of pre-roman cities in the Roman period as Patavium, Aeteste, Opitergium, Aquileia, etc (a lot of them where the final node of the Amber road)... So, to just depict the Gallia Cisalpina as a wasteland of savage celts is a over simplified, also because the north east wasn't always considered "Gallia", since their people never were fully celts (even if they mixed a lot, between a war and a territorial fight)
Fair points. Thing is, I didn't mention the ligurian coast and northern adriatic coast at all. Basically, I was thinking "who would be mentioned in the history of Rome" amd Ligurians and Veneti didn't pop into my head.I know it's not an excuse, just wanted to explain why I missed them.
Polybius sounds VERY biased when talking about the Gauls. We have evidence suggesting that they were very good metalworkers, and that the Romans took inspirations from them in regards to armor and weapons, such as the lorica hamata and the Montefortino helmet. We even have some linguistic evidence, for example the word "Lancia" (spear) is of celtic origin and appeared together with its latin counterpart "Hasta".
Loved it. Would like more followups on this topic, how where the contact between these cultures until que Roman conquest and so on. Blessings for your channel 🙏
Latium: The best part of Italy. 8:42 even the livestock think it's the best! *This post was sponsored by the brotherhood of Roman shepherds: real Roman wool for real Romans*
I belive that the fact that apulians were of illyrian and not italic origin shoud have been mentioned, Between illyrians,greeks and much later albanians,the region was always a melting pot of cultures and peoples from italy and the balkans
What do you mean "fact"? It is not confirmed, just a theory. According to Roman and Greek writers the Apulians were Greeks, descendants of the Arcadians who had become the Oenotrians, who had spit into the Peucetians.
Etruscan language has been pretty thoroughly decoded in the sense we know much of what the inscriptions we have say (at least speculatively), the problem is the inscriptions are often short and fragmentary, so we can't reconstruct the language in its fullness and we only know few hundred words with certainty. Also I doubt that the Cisalpine Gauls were as barbaric as Roman accounts paint, post La Tene Celts had rich material cultures, it might be said that they were a bit behind the curve of urbanisation compared to the Romans, but only by a bit. Unfortunately due to the Roman conquests the urbanising tribes of the Gauls never gave rise to Mediterranean city states and empires like in Italy
The Gauls and Romans came from the same root. The indo European migration to Europe saw the Greeks split off first, then the remaining split in two. The southern group became the italics and gauls. The northern group became the germanics
I am going to copy and paste an interesting theory I have: The weirdest thing about the Etruscan people is that not long ago, me and some other history buffs noticed a similarity between the sparse words of the Etruscan language and Irish Gaelic. Some important words, like for example I think "son", and I think "burial mound" (I'm not sure exactly which words) were extremely similar in both Etruscan and Gaelic. This came when I was reading about the historical Troy and the legendary origins of the Etruscans. I found that there were references by some ancient historian of people with names similar to Gauls/Gaels in the Balkans, and that it was implied they had migrated there. This is important because the Gaelic people's own ancient legends speak of them having come to Ireland from across the sea, from Spain, and eventually from some far away land, and there is genetic evidence that shows Irish people have some ancient Middle Eastern ancestry. Furthermore, there is a region in Spain called 'Galicia', then the historical Roman province of 'Gaul', and there is even a region in I believe Anatolia called 'Galicia'. This would indicate that the ancient Irish migrated to Ireland from ancient Anatolia, and on their way passed through the Balkans and even possibly the Italic peninsula. This could also indicate that they might be related to the Etruscans, or that the ancient mythological origin of the Etruscans from Anatolia/Troy might have some merit, and that the Gaels might be a sister group to them.
Thanks, Seamus, for your comments on the Etruscan language. It is my understanding that what has been translated is mostly mundane stuff. The truism obtains here: "The conqueror writes the history". I understand the Roman emperor, Claudius, had a fascination with the Etruscans and wrote a history of the people, which sadly is lost. This is too often the case. Historical records, primary sources are frequently the victims of conquest. What we know of Rome's regal period is centuries after the fact. What records that did exist were likely lost during the sack of Rome in the early 4th century BC. Too bad. I would love to know whether Kings Numa and Ancus Marcius were flesh and blood.
honestly is quite reductive to say that campania was just a beautiful vacation spot. the oscan tribe of the Campanian (Ausonians/Opici) were a huge political and military player in the region,they fundend huge cities as back as 9th century b.c as Pompeii, Nucera Alfiterna, Nola/Nuvla (capital of the campanian league in 4th century bc) Acerra,Liternum, Stabia, Atella, Salernum (second biggest city in the region today) and they were even an important part of the ruling elite of Naples, Surrentum and Puteoli. they conquered Capua from the etruscans expelling them from southern italy and stopped the hellenicization of the region by sacking and burning to the ground Cumae (the most powerful greek city of peninsular italy). the campanians were incredibly good horsmen and for centuries they were the battle bodyguards of roman generals, the fought with the romans in the Battle of Ausculum and Heraclea against Pyrrus. the video is not necessarily bad but really superficial, you didn't talk about the Ligurii, the Veneti,The iapygians, the Messapians, the Umbrians, the siculians (just to mention the major tribes that had a real impact on the history of rome)
Thanks for the information. It's fair criticism. I am going to use it to improve the quality of my videos when I resume the narrative on early Roman history.
@@jordanpark1168 the best source that i read about the pre roman italian people is " Italia Omnium Terrarum alumna" but i don't know if there is a translated edition from italian to english, and to be honest is a quite expensive book (70/80 euros more or less). It was quite difficult to find it even in Italy, i had to go to antique dealer as its last edition is from 1988
@@gamesquirrel9822 interesting, i've google images of it but i dont think its realistic. Imperator has the edge in depicting geographical features and the settlements are small and looks proportional.
Wow, that was really really good! I'm super impressed and totally blow away. I wasn't expecting to get so much out of that. Thank you! Please please do a fallow up!
I'm glad you covered this, but I wished you talked about what happened to these peoples, one of the biggest influences of Rome that people forget about is the wiping out of many cultures, peoples and languages
The etrurians are a big mistery that i so hardly wish to know the origin of. Do they have any indo-european origin, or are they deacendants of the old europeans who managed to survive the aryan invasion? Did their alphabet origin from phoenician, linear-B, or did they make it up themselves...? From who they learned iron working and introduced it to the rest of italy?
It’s very likely they’re of old european origin. In fact most of south Europe today (and to varying degrees France) are of old european descent. Could be wrong though. DNA studies is always difficult and confusing.
There's literally a study from last year that confirms that the Etruscans were autochtonous to the Italian peninsula and had "nearly identical dna to their Latin-speaking neighbours".
There were a lot of pre Indo European people around during Roman times. The Rhaetians, the Iberians, the Tartessians and the Aquitanians, who still exist today (now known as Basques).
And even at this time, Roma was just a shadow of Alba Longa. The irony I find as a Romanian, is that the Latinii had a semi-nomadic pastoralist culture when they settled down in Latium and until they adopted a more sofiticated culture like that of the Graecii and Etruscii. Their descendants (us Romanians), after their fall became again semi-nomadic pastoralists, very poetic if you ask me.
The Etruscan alphabet has been certainly deciphered, it's very similar to the early Greek ones - the Euboean ones as they were modified in Cumae. It's just that the Etruscan *language* is mostly not understood, texts can only be partly translated.
The weirdest thing about the Etruscan people is that not long ago, me and some other history buffs noticed a similarity between the sparse words of the Etruscan language and Irish Gaelic. Some important words, like for example I think "son", and I think "burial mound" (I'm not sure exactly which words) were extremely similar in both Etruscan and Gaelic. This came when I was reading about the historical Troy and the legendary origins of the Etruscans. I found that there were references by some ancient historian of people with names similar to Gauls/Gaels in the Balkans, and that it was implied they had migrated there. This is important because the Gaelic people's own ancient legends speak of them having come to Ireland from across the sea, from Spain, and eventually from some far away land, and there is genetic evidence that shows Irish people have some ancient Middle Eastern ancestry. Furthermore, there is a region in Spain called 'Galicia', then the historical Roman province of 'Gaul', and there is even a region in I believe Anatolia called 'Galicia'. This would indicate that the ancient Irish migrated to Ireland from ancient Anatolia, and on their way passed through the Balkans and even possibly the Italic peninsula. This could also indicate that they might be related to the Etruscans, or that the ancient mythological origin of the Etruscans from Anatolia/Troy might have some merit, and that the Gaels might be a sister group to them.
This is not quite correct, I don't know where you found the similar words in the languages, it could be possible, but at the same time the etruscan language (which contrary to what the video says, we deciphered it, we just don't really know EXACTLY how it was spoken and pronounced) is NOT part of the indo-european language branch of which irish Gaelic is AND most importantly I don't know if you were insinuating a possible common origin between these "middle-eastern" Etruscans and the irish celts, but anyway we now know (thanks to a study that I think was published last year?) that the etruscans had the exact origin as the Latins and other affiliated tribes, and therefore were a totally homogenous italic tribe. Also in Spain there were celtic tribes, just like in Italy, that's why there's quite a bit of influence left, like the region called Galicia, and mostly in the Northern part (also there were Celts in modern day Portugal) and the Irish celts actually originated from the celt-iberic tribes of Spain. The territory you were referring to in modern-day Turkey DOESN'T exist anymore, but it used to exist and it was called Galatia, and it was inhabited by the Galatians (from Greek meaning white, like milk) who were a celtic tribe that migrated there, in central Turkey, after the defeat of Thermopylae in which a few Greek states reunited to push back a Celtic confederation that was raiding and pillaging Illyria and the Greek states, I don't remember exactly who this celtic tribe was but they were named the Galatians by the Greek and they were actually quite important because they worked as mercenaries for both the Romans and the Greeks and were fierce warriors, even being cited in the Ancient Testament. Edited a few words to not exaggerate.
@@Hikaeme-od3zq I don't recall exactly where I read that, it was one of those linguistics blogs where people speculate about ancient history and connections between cultures. I do know that Etruscan is not an Indo-European language, but I don't speak Gaelic, nor am I a trained linguist, so everything I say should be taken with a grain of salt.
So are most Northern Italians descended from Celts and Gallo Romans? I have about 25% Northern ancestry and another 20% from Sicily. It’s really confusing to remember who was in Italy before the Romans.
@@RomabooRamblings cool, i remembered the map being much more simple, almost dull much more like eu4 than something like CK3 i guess I’ll open the game again now
You're very wrong about the volcanic activity near Rome. It mostly shut down well before the Holocene. Campania, the Lipari Islands and Etna have all been vastly more active then Latium over the last 10,000 years. So to claim that Latium was "uninhabitable" due to volcanic activity a few centuries before Rome was founded and yet Campania was bountiful and fertile is simply nonsense. Campania had vastly more volcanic activity during the period.
No love for the indigenous Sardinians and Sicilians, Veneti, Ligures etc. or even the Castillieri culture in Friuli/Istria -They’d existed for a millennia from the Bronze Age till they were conquered by the Romans.
There are Gallic Veneti, whom Caesar fought, those are certainly Celtic; and there are Adriatic Veneti, they could've been Celtic, Italic or Illyrian, or some mix of those.
Wdym it hasnt been decoded? Ive heard there has been mant scripts that have been decoded and we even know some of the pronounciation Im talking about etruscan
we can read and translate to a certain degree but the problem is that we do not have enough texts: the texts that survived are mainly short funerial inscriptions
@@RomabooRamblings I am going to copy and paste a theory I have about the Etruscan language: The weirdest thing about the Etruscan people is that not long ago, me and some other history buffs noticed a similarity between the sparse words of the Etruscan language and Irish Gaelic. Some important words, like for example I think "son", and I think "burial mound" (I'm not sure exactly which words) were extremely similar in both Etruscan and Gaelic. This came when I was reading about the historical Troy and the legendary origins of the Etruscans. I found that there were references by some ancient historian of people with names similar to Gauls/Gaels in the Balkans, and that it was implied they had migrated there. This is important because the Gaelic people's own ancient legends speak of them having come to Ireland from across the sea, from Spain, and eventually from some far away land, and there is genetic evidence that shows Irish people have some ancient Middle Eastern ancestry. Furthermore, there is a region in Spain called 'Galicia', then the historical Roman province of 'Gaul', and there is even a region in I believe Anatolia called 'Galicia'. This would indicate that the ancient Irish migrated to Ireland from ancient Anatolia, and on their way passed through the Balkans and even possibly the Italic peninsula. This could also indicate that they might be related to the Etruscans, or that the ancient mythological origin of the Etruscans from Anatolia/Troy might have some merit, and that the Gaels might be a sister group to them.
The modern nerdy professors think they know better than the ancient Greeks about their origins🤣 The Etruscans are just as the Greeks said: migrants from anatolia, which is consistent with the Bible and Josephus that traced the Greek race called Tarshish with Tarsus in anatolia, so the Etruscans were from Tarsus and migrated to Italy and became the Etruscans!
@@supermavro6072 Well, that's not exactly accurate but there is a connection with Egypt. Ludim is son of Mitsraym, and they migrated to anatolia and created Lukka/Lycia who were part of the coalition of the sea peoples along with some Greek tribes. But Lydians are LUD son of Shem. Caphtorim are Crete not Cyprus and they were also were part of the sea people, and were ancestors of Sherden of Sardinia who originated from Crete along with Phillistines descendants of Caslukhim. The 4 races of Greeks came from Yavan son of Yaphet
I'm calling it, one year from now you'll be one of the big players in roman history here in youtube. Keep up the incredible work my dude
thanks for the ecouragement. Any particular topic you think I should highlight?
@@RomabooRamblings not enough Romaboo UA-camrs do videos about emperors post Commodus and crisis of the third century, idk a series of short vids about emperors might get a subscriber base going
@@RomabooRamblings I think a series or video on Roman culture and its evolution through the years would be nice
Agreed
@@RomabooRamblings make a lot of shorts. Pushes you in the algorithm.
A guide in Rome for tourists told me that when she had to speech about Etruscans or any other populations settled in italy (for exemple the Lombards), 99% of North Americans had never heard about them. She told me that many people from North America didn't know even that Rome nowadays is the capital city of the country. The guide I met was in the Pantheon.
Far too many people nowadays, especially Americans, don't care enough about history. Like... most people over here really only think of D-Day when they hear about Normandy, and not, y'know, the goddamn Normans themselves.
99% seems excessive
@@AudioEsoterixxx common american People can't point to continents in a world map🌍🗺️, so probably the guide was right.
@@unioneitaliana7107 More like the Common person isn't taught ancient history of foreign countries.
Ask Europeans where Native american tribes are located on a map would meet the same response.
Generally we are taught brief knowledge of American history, trail of tears and native reservations, a little mexican history and wars fought with em, ww1 and ww2 and thats it.
Schools should teach more about how to survive in the modern world rather than the history of countries 2000+ miles away.
@@dcethe6943 The final sentence you wrote needs no comment. Education should achieve the exact opposite of what you're saying: you can't live the present if you have no knowledge of the past. US is a failed country, your society is rotten, you don't even have a common culture inside your nation, you just live as members of multiple communities unable to merge into a unifying identity. Luckily us Europeans are moving away from this failed anglo-globalist junk. We're all happy if you stay in you little isolated continent not learning anything about the rest of the world, at least you're of no harm and you'll die out of diabetes and heart attack.
To say that northern Italy was just "Celtic" is an oversimplification and, to be fair, just bad: 1)there was an important presence of pre-indo-european people like the Liguri in the north west, a lot of Etruscan cities-emporiums and the Reti in the north-east
2) you forgot the Veneti, a people between the italic and the Illyrian groups, that had a strong cultural bound with the Latins (they always had relationships of "amicitiae", never of "foedus"...) and even with the Greeks: the Eneti, as they were called, are cited in the Iliad, and their region and people appears in Greek and Roman myths and folklore... And also to mention the importance of pre-roman cities in the Roman period as Patavium, Aeteste, Opitergium, Aquileia, etc (a lot of them where the final node of the Amber road)...
So, to just depict the Gallia Cisalpina as a wasteland of savage celts is a over simplified, also because the north east wasn't always considered "Gallia", since their people never were fully celts (even if they mixed a lot, between a war and a territorial fight)
Fair points. Thing is, I didn't mention the ligurian coast and northern adriatic coast at all. Basically, I was thinking "who would be mentioned in the history of Rome" amd Ligurians and Veneti didn't pop into my head.I know it's not an excuse, just wanted to explain why I missed them.
Polybius sounds VERY biased when talking about the Gauls. We have evidence suggesting that they were very good metalworkers, and that the Romans took inspirations from them in regards to armor and weapons, such as the lorica hamata and the Montefortino helmet. We even have some linguistic evidence, for example the word "Lancia" (spear) is of celtic origin and appeared together with its latin counterpart "Hasta".
Gaul wuz kangz
Dey be teachin romanz how to bathe n shieeeeeet
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Loved it. Would like more followups on this topic, how where the contact between these cultures until que Roman conquest and so on. Blessings for your channel 🙏
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Latium: The best part of Italy. 8:42 even the livestock think it's the best!
*This post was sponsored by the brotherhood of Roman shepherds: real Roman wool for real Romans*
They do look really happy
I belive that the fact that apulians were of illyrian and not italic origin shoud have been mentioned,
Between illyrians,greeks and much later albanians,the region was always a melting pot of cultures and peoples from italy and the balkans
Good point
What do you mean "fact"? It is not confirmed, just a theory. According to Roman and Greek writers the Apulians were Greeks, descendants of the Arcadians who had become the Oenotrians, who had spit into the Peucetians.
Correction: some apulian tribes migrated from Ancient Illyria. Some of them even mixed with local italic elements
And then us Slavic boys showed up and set up camp. Although I do tan really well like a Mediterranean, so maybe I am part Illyrian...
@@RomabooRamblings I smell albanian propaganda
Etruscan language has been pretty thoroughly decoded in the sense we know much of what the inscriptions we have say (at least speculatively), the problem is the inscriptions are often short and fragmentary, so we can't reconstruct the language in its fullness and we only know few hundred words with certainty. Also I doubt that the Cisalpine Gauls were as barbaric as Roman accounts paint, post La Tene Celts had rich material cultures, it might be said that they were a bit behind the curve of urbanisation compared to the Romans, but only by a bit. Unfortunately due to the Roman conquests the urbanising tribes of the Gauls never gave rise to Mediterranean city states and empires like in Italy
The Gauls and Romans came from the same root. The indo European migration to Europe saw the Greeks split off first, then the remaining split in two. The southern group became the italics and gauls. The northern group became the germanics
I am going to copy and paste an interesting theory I have:
The weirdest thing about the Etruscan people is that not long ago, me and some other history buffs noticed a similarity between the sparse words of the Etruscan language and Irish Gaelic. Some important words, like for example I think "son", and I think "burial mound" (I'm not sure exactly which words) were extremely similar in both Etruscan and Gaelic. This came when I was reading about the historical Troy and the legendary origins of the Etruscans. I found that there were references by some ancient historian of people with names similar to Gauls/Gaels in the Balkans, and that it was implied they had migrated there. This is important because the Gaelic people's own ancient legends speak of them having come to Ireland from across the sea, from Spain, and eventually from some far away land, and there is genetic evidence that shows Irish people have some ancient Middle Eastern ancestry. Furthermore, there is a region in Spain called 'Galicia', then the historical Roman province of 'Gaul', and there is even a region in I believe Anatolia called 'Galicia'. This would indicate that the ancient Irish migrated to Ireland from ancient Anatolia, and on their way passed through the Balkans and even possibly the Italic peninsula. This could also indicate that they might be related to the Etruscans, or that the ancient mythological origin of the Etruscans from Anatolia/Troy might have some merit, and that the Gaels might be a sister group to them.
Thanks, Seamus, for your comments on the Etruscan language.
It is my understanding that what has been translated is mostly mundane stuff.
The truism obtains here: "The conqueror writes the history". I understand the Roman emperor, Claudius, had a fascination with the Etruscans and wrote a history of the people, which sadly is lost. This is too often the case. Historical records, primary sources are frequently the victims of conquest.
What we know of Rome's regal period is centuries after the fact. What records that did exist were likely lost during the sack of Rome in the early 4th century BC.
Too bad. I would love to know whether Kings Numa and Ancus Marcius were flesh and blood.
honestly is quite reductive to say that campania was just a beautiful vacation spot. the oscan tribe of the Campanian (Ausonians/Opici) were a huge political and military player in the region,they fundend huge cities as back as 9th century b.c as Pompeii, Nucera Alfiterna, Nola/Nuvla (capital of the campanian league in 4th century bc) Acerra,Liternum, Stabia, Atella, Salernum (second biggest city in the region today) and they were even an important part of the ruling elite of Naples, Surrentum and Puteoli. they conquered Capua from the etruscans expelling them from southern italy and stopped the hellenicization of the region by sacking and burning to the ground Cumae (the most powerful greek city of peninsular italy). the campanians were incredibly good horsmen and for centuries they were the battle bodyguards of roman generals, the fought with the romans in the Battle of Ausculum and Heraclea against Pyrrus.
the video is not necessarily bad but really superficial, you didn't talk about the Ligurii, the Veneti,The iapygians, the Messapians, the Umbrians, the siculians (just to mention the major tribes that had a real impact on the history of rome)
Thanks for the information. It's fair criticism. I am going to use it to improve the quality of my videos when I resume the narrative on early Roman history.
@@jordanpark1168 the best source that i read about the pre roman italian people is " Italia Omnium Terrarum alumna" but i don't know if there is a translated edition from italian to english, and to be honest is a quite expensive book (70/80 euros more or less). It was quite difficult to find it even in Italy, i had to go to antique dealer as its last edition is from 1988
Samnites never destroyed cumae...they mixed with.....
Taking political power
Love the content. Did you use Imperator Rome for the map?
Yup
@@RomabooRamblings Imperator may have a nice map, but Hegemony III has a better depiction of the political situation 🙂
@@gamesquirrel9822 interesting, i've google images of it but i dont think its realistic. Imperator has the edge in depicting geographical features and the settlements are small and looks proportional.
Wow, that was really really good! I'm super impressed and totally blow away. I wasn't expecting to get so much out of that. Thank you! Please please do a fallow up!
Fantastic video! Please more about Rome
I'm glad you covered this, but I wished you talked about what happened to these peoples, one of the biggest influences of Rome that people forget about is the wiping out of many cultures, peoples and languages
I would love to see the video on genetic history of ancient Rome and etruscans.
Great video, I wish you great success
Brilliant , keep em coming..
Which game do you use to illustrate?
He's using Imperator:Rome. I recommend it, best early antiquity game i've ever played.
Where do you found that map? Looks awesome to show these things!!
imperator rome game
Where did you get that map?
It's from a game called Imperator: Rome
The etrurians are a big mistery that i so hardly wish to know the origin of. Do they have any indo-european origin, or are they deacendants of the old europeans who managed to survive the aryan invasion? Did their alphabet origin from phoenician, linear-B, or did they make it up themselves...? From who they learned iron working and introduced it to the rest of italy?
It’s very likely they’re of old european origin. In fact most of south Europe today (and to varying degrees France) are of old european descent. Could be wrong though. DNA studies is always difficult and confusing.
There's literally a study from last year that confirms that the Etruscans were autochtonous to the Italian peninsula and had "nearly identical dna to their Latin-speaking neighbours".
There were a lot of pre Indo European people around during Roman times. The Rhaetians, the Iberians, the Tartessians and the Aquitanians, who still exist today (now known as Basques).
And even at this time, Roma was just a shadow of Alba Longa. The irony I find as a Romanian, is that the Latinii had a semi-nomadic pastoralist culture when they settled down in Latium and until they adopted a more sofiticated culture like that of the Graecii and Etruscii. Their descendants (us Romanians), after their fall became again semi-nomadic pastoralists, very poetic if you ask me.
What do you think of Imperator: Rome getting abandoned just after it started to improve?
The Etruscan alphabet has been certainly deciphered, it's very similar to the early Greek ones - the Euboean ones as they were modified in Cumae. It's just that the Etruscan *language* is mostly not understood, texts can only be partly translated.
if i could give feedback it would be to increase the level of the audio.
North italy celtic ? Venei ,ligurian , part etruscan , cumeni ?you forgot
The weirdest thing about the Etruscan people is that not long ago, me and some other history buffs noticed a similarity between the sparse words of the Etruscan language and Irish Gaelic. Some important words, like for example I think "son", and I think "burial mound" (I'm not sure exactly which words) were extremely similar in both Etruscan and Gaelic. This came when I was reading about the historical Troy and the legendary origins of the Etruscans. I found that there were references by some ancient historian of people with names similar to Gauls/Gaels in the Balkans, and that it was implied they had migrated there. This is important because the Gaelic people's own ancient legends speak of them having come to Ireland from across the sea, from Spain, and eventually from some far away land, and there is genetic evidence that shows Irish people have some ancient Middle Eastern ancestry. Furthermore, there is a region in Spain called 'Galicia', then the historical Roman province of 'Gaul', and there is even a region in I believe Anatolia called 'Galicia'. This would indicate that the ancient Irish migrated to Ireland from ancient Anatolia, and on their way passed through the Balkans and even possibly the Italic peninsula. This could also indicate that they might be related to the Etruscans, or that the ancient mythological origin of the Etruscans from Anatolia/Troy might have some merit, and that the Gaels might be a sister group to them.
This is not quite correct, I don't know where you found the similar words in the languages, it could be possible, but at the same time the etruscan language (which contrary to what the video says, we deciphered it, we just don't really know EXACTLY how it was spoken and pronounced) is NOT part of the indo-european language branch of which irish Gaelic is AND most importantly I don't know if you were insinuating a possible common origin between these "middle-eastern" Etruscans and the irish celts, but anyway we now know (thanks to a study that I think was published last year?) that the etruscans had the exact origin as the Latins and other affiliated tribes, and therefore were a totally homogenous italic tribe. Also in Spain there were celtic tribes, just like in Italy, that's why there's quite a bit of influence left, like the region called Galicia, and mostly in the Northern part (also there were Celts in modern day Portugal) and the Irish celts actually originated from the celt-iberic tribes of Spain.
The territory you were referring to in modern-day Turkey DOESN'T exist anymore, but it used to exist and it was called Galatia, and it was inhabited by the Galatians (from Greek meaning white, like milk) who were a celtic tribe that migrated there, in central Turkey, after the defeat of Thermopylae in which a few Greek states reunited to push back a Celtic confederation that was raiding and pillaging Illyria and the Greek states, I don't remember exactly who this celtic tribe was but they were named the Galatians by the Greek and they were actually quite important because they worked as mercenaries for both the Romans and the Greeks and were fierce warriors, even being cited in the Ancient Testament.
Edited a few words to not exaggerate.
@@Hikaeme-od3zq I don't recall exactly where I read that, it was one of those linguistics blogs where people speculate about ancient history and connections between cultures. I do know that Etruscan is not an Indo-European language, but I don't speak Gaelic, nor am I a trained linguist, so everything I say should be taken with a grain of salt.
@@Hikaeme-od3zq Also, I was referring to the region known as Galatia, I just misremembered the original spelling.
I thought I read something in the last few years about a genetic study that put the Etruscans' origins in Anatolia.
So are most Northern Italians descended from Celts and Gallo Romans? I have about 25% Northern ancestry and another 20% from Sicily. It’s really confusing to remember who was in Italy before the Romans.
There's also some Germanic admixture as well, thanks to people like the Lombards settling the region
@@Korvinian4601 germanic admicture was most around alto adige (obviously) and friuli.
All this, and yet not one mention of Boar Vessel 600-500 BC Etruscan Ceramic.
It looks like the map of a paradox game, is this by any chance imperator rome ?
Yes, it is
@@RomabooRamblings cool, i remembered the map being much more simple, almost dull much more like eu4 than something like CK3 i guess I’ll open the game again now
@@axel0_02 I used a graphics overhaul mod to make it prettier for the video
@@RomabooRamblings yea figured, very cool tho
You're very wrong about the volcanic activity near Rome. It mostly shut down well before the Holocene. Campania, the Lipari Islands and Etna have all been vastly more active then Latium over the last 10,000 years.
So to claim that Latium was "uninhabitable" due to volcanic activity a few centuries before Rome was founded and yet Campania was bountiful and fertile is simply nonsense. Campania had vastly more volcanic activity during the period.
Thanks. I'll keep note of this for the remake.
Etruscans are an enigma. Genetically they were similar to Latins and other Italics, but their language was not Indo- European.
Rome 2: Rise of the Republic covers this period.
You mean Rome: Total War?
@@RomabooRamblings yeah rome 2 total war has a scenario like this
The veneti people not mentioned..veneti arent celtics
No love for the indigenous Sardinians and Sicilians, Veneti, Ligures etc. or even the Castillieri culture in Friuli/Istria -They’d existed for a millennia from the Bronze Age till they were conquered by the Romans.
Etruscan is not decoded? What? It very much is decoded.
I'm proud to have Ostrogoths ancestors 😊
Where are the veneti?
Sardinia and the Nuragic civilization are MIA
Li én amò scià i smaladii Albanana cun séi stori da matt !
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Were the veneti celtic peoples?
The Veneti were Gallic. Gauls or Gallic people were Celtic peoples from mainland Europe.
There are Gallic Veneti, whom Caesar fought, those are certainly Celtic; and there are Adriatic Veneti, they could've been Celtic, Italic or Illyrian, or some mix of those.
@@augustuscaesar8287 wheres your source
@@SmashingCapital they were probably italics: latino-faliscan branch
@@RomabooRamblings Veneti are the same as Eneti ,Illyrian or Slavic tribe that dwellt Balkan, Anatolia(Bythinia) and great part of Europe.
we have forgotten the oldest civilization of all, the oldest in all of europe, the nuragic one of sardinia
Wdym it hasnt been decoded? Ive heard there has been mant scripts that have been decoded and we even know some of the pronounciation
Im talking about etruscan
I read something about a certain tablet being translated, but I think our overall knowledge of it is rather sparse
we can read and translate to a certain degree but the problem is that we do not have enough texts: the texts that survived are mainly short funerial inscriptions
@@RomabooRamblings
I am going to copy and paste a theory I have about the Etruscan language:
The weirdest thing about the Etruscan people is that not long ago, me and some other history buffs noticed a similarity between the sparse words of the Etruscan language and Irish Gaelic. Some important words, like for example I think "son", and I think "burial mound" (I'm not sure exactly which words) were extremely similar in both Etruscan and Gaelic. This came when I was reading about the historical Troy and the legendary origins of the Etruscans. I found that there were references by some ancient historian of people with names similar to Gauls/Gaels in the Balkans, and that it was implied they had migrated there. This is important because the Gaelic people's own ancient legends speak of them having come to Ireland from across the sea, from Spain, and eventually from some far away land, and there is genetic evidence that shows Irish people have some ancient Middle Eastern ancestry. Furthermore, there is a region in Spain called 'Galicia', then the historical Roman province of 'Gaul', and there is even a region in I believe Anatolia called 'Galicia'. This would indicate that the ancient Irish migrated to Ireland from ancient Anatolia, and on their way passed through the Balkans and even possibly the Italic peninsula. This could also indicate that they might be related to the Etruscans, or that the ancient mythological origin of the Etruscans from Anatolia/Troy might have some merit, and that the Gaels might be a sister group to them.
The Etruscans were not indigenous to Italy as we know it today . They , just like the Greeks , were colonizers from the near east .
The modern nerdy professors think they know better than the ancient Greeks about their origins🤣 The Etruscans are just as the Greeks said: migrants from anatolia, which is consistent with the Bible and Josephus that traced the Greek race called Tarshish with Tarsus in anatolia, so the Etruscans were from Tarsus and migrated to Italy and became the Etruscans!
Yes agree, and greeks were from Egypt / Misraim son of Ludim/Lydia and caphtorim/cyprus
@@supermavro6072 Well, that's not exactly accurate but there is a connection with Egypt. Ludim is son of Mitsraym, and they migrated to anatolia and created Lukka/Lycia who were part of the coalition of the sea peoples along with some Greek tribes. But Lydians are LUD son of Shem. Caphtorim are Crete not Cyprus and they were also were part of the sea people, and were ancestors of Sherden of Sardinia who originated from Crete along with Phillistines descendants of Caslukhim. The 4 races of Greeks came from Yavan son of Yaphet
They'll make up any ridiculous lie to try to discredit scripture. We'll see how that works out for them.
@@JohnDoe-qz5pj Yes, they are so pathetic. Every theory they invent turns out to be false
@@EasternRomeOrthodoxy The Romans were originating from the Ancient Greeks of Peleponessos Lacedaemonia Arcadia and Argos.
Cool accent mate
Maxat. Ganidi. Sin. Ganidi. Zivo. Rim. Itijy. Indyas. Indije
Oesinije. Doveli. Iz. Sirije.
Siciliji. Naseli.
Napijaj.
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Tutto falso che dice lei non e scritta nessuno parte greco e Helen in quello tempo non racconta storie false grazie
The Etruscans were indo European
no they werent
Indo European is a language not a people
@@IrishCinnsealach it was also a migration from central Asia that swept away all of Europe other than the Basque and Finn-Ugaric people.
Kewl
The Etruscans derived from Anatolia and the Romans from the Greeks of Peleponessos
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1:44 Completely false the Gauls had lots of art and knew science
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