THIN Strings for THICK Riffs? | Black Sabbath Tony Iommi's NEW Signature La Bella Strings

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    Gear Used for this lesson:
    Gibson Tony Iommi "Monkey" SG Special
    LaBella Tony Iommi Signature Strings
    Dallas Rangemaster clone
    '69 100W Laney Supergroup
    Two Notes Torpedo Captor X
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 206

  • @DoesItDoom
    @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +15

    Checout the La Bella Tony Iommi Signature Electric Guitar Strings here: www.labella.com/strings/category/tony-iommi-signature-strings/

    • @sluysen
      @sluysen 3 місяці тому +1

      Too bad they don't seem to be shipping to europe (belgium) or be available in another shop

    • @buzzoven1347
      @buzzoven1347 3 місяці тому +1

      Is there any way you could show how to get the guitar tone Kirk has for buzzovens behaved??

    • @erikberg8352
      @erikberg8352 3 місяці тому +1

      La Bella makes *the best*flat wound bass and Bass VI strings, definitely worth a couple extra bucks per pack.

  • @Rurikpaon
    @Rurikpaon 3 місяці тому +13

    That solo sounded IDENTICAL to the recorded version, greatly played dude!

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +3

      Much appreciated. 🙏🏻🤘🏻

  • @thetravisparker5259
    @thetravisparker5259 3 місяці тому +68

    This literally goes to show how string gauge is all personal preference. Tony is a GOAT

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +8

      No doubt!

    • @endezeichengrimm
      @endezeichengrimm 3 місяці тому +12

      And chopped off finger tips.

    • @justinoreado1380
      @justinoreado1380 3 місяці тому +1

      The laws pf physics disagree with your logic

    • @topfacemod
      @topfacemod 3 місяці тому +5

      @@justinoreado1380 The hell are you saying? ....That Iommi didn't pull off an invention of Heavy Metal genre with a string gauge much smaller than the piano strings, morons think they need for heavy tone? All low end is f'n boring.

    • @JonnyCrackers
      @JonnyCrackers 3 місяці тому +6

      Yup. I'd rather have light gauge floppy strings and play lighter. Thicker strings tend to lose that high end brightness you get with light gauge strings.

  • @edwardx.winston5744
    @edwardx.winston5744 3 місяці тому +15

    Brian May’s vintage tone features the same trick: his home-made “Red Special” has a 24.00” scale, which reduces tension in and of itself. Dr. May used to use 8-38 strings on that shorter-scale neck, which would be as thin and floppy as Iommi’s.
    Both players have styles that feature glorious signature vibratos. Both are masters of iconic riffage, and they’re life-long friends to boot.
    Blackmore, Iommi & May: what a triumvirate of 70’s hard rock riff genius!

  • @Jefffafa334
    @Jefffafa334 3 місяці тому +48

    With the entire Tony rig it sounds so amazing!

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +7

      Endless amounts of fun playing through this rig!

  • @riffwizardsupreme
    @riffwizardsupreme 3 місяці тому +28

    i love finding the equilibrium of tension so your shit stays in tune but banging an open bottom string does that blooming holy mountain thing

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +6

      Yes! It’s definitely a thing. Funny that I often think of the tone on that particular album as well.

    • @BaBaBaBenny
      @BaBaBaBenny 3 місяці тому

      Exactly why I love using 11-48s for drop c (well, CGDGBE). That "Bloom" on the low c is something special.

  • @loganmunoz5373
    @loganmunoz5373 3 місяці тому +7

    You should definitely do another video on the c# set plus it’d be fun to do some more history on Tony and most of all allow to riff some more for us!

  • @ryangibbons8809
    @ryangibbons8809 3 місяці тому +9

    I play 11-60 for whole step down and Drop C.
    11-70 for whole step drop A
    12-60 for C# Standard

  • @amslu
    @amslu 3 місяці тому +18

    If I remember correctly, Josh Homme used 10s for C tuning in Kyuss - no need to go super heavy to play super heavy

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +6

      Likely so. I remember Reeder saying he just tuned down regular light gauge bass strings for Kyuss.

    • @rocketpigrecords3719
      @rocketpigrecords3719 3 місяці тому +1

      I do D standard & drop C at 432hz, works for me with 10-46s.
      I do thrash, doom, classic rock, industrial etc with this setup.
      I used to run 11-52s, but they aren't always available & I was working way harder for everything.

    • @ricardog.s2505
      @ricardog.s2505 3 місяці тому

      @@DoesItDoom As a bassist myself I can confidently say that to me that makes sense, Scotts tone is huge but that is mostly because of the VERY loud volume and with dead strings (or could be flatwounds), so his bottom end is MASSIVE despite being a regular bass set while Josh Homme isn't bass heavy but cuts really well in the mid and higher frecuencies
      I did the same for bass for a long while, just a regular set for D and C tuning and that "wobliness" gave a massive sound that you wouldn't get with tighter strings

    • @nothingislogical
      @nothingislogical 3 місяці тому +1

      I know a lot of more modern players complain about their tome being too muddy when they tune down with a normal gauge. For me, I like the mud. Adds a level of nastiness to the tone you don’t get with super tight strings.

    • @solidstorm6129
      @solidstorm6129 3 місяці тому

      @@rocketpigrecords3719question for clarification. When you mention that you had to “work harder for everything”, what exactly do you mean by that?

  • @richieolson1482
    @richieolson1482 3 місяці тому +18

    That tone is absolutely perfect

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +3

      Thanks, Richie. Super fun to play through that rig.

  • @NeF1LiM
    @NeF1LiM 3 місяці тому +13

    I'm going to buy a set for my daughter's 3/4 scale Squire. The light gauge configuration is good for tiny beginner fingers.

  • @Therealbackslabbath
    @Therealbackslabbath 3 місяці тому +4

    I remember JD from The Sword saying he prefers to play lighter than average strings for their drop C stuff. He said it’s so you get that slight warble when you hit the open low E string, like it goes slightly out of tune and blooms like you said.

  • @edwardx.winston5744
    @edwardx.winston5744 3 місяці тому +3

    Also: one thing Iommi, May, Blackmore, and Gilmour had in common: the use of treble boosters in their signal chains. Treble boosters weren’t so much used to add high frequencies as to roll off lows while boosting the overall signal into tube amplification. The net result is high gain with clarity.
    Bass strings create more signal than thin little treble strings. Treble boosters just even the string response over the entire range. Great for guitarists who live or die by the the big, single-note-at-a-time, melodic, hooky riff-which all of these guitarists are known for (Iommi being the undisputed king of this Round Table of Riffing Knights).

  • @GothicXlightning
    @GothicXlightning 3 місяці тому +9

    All hail to our Uncle IOMMI And his Black SG of Gothic Doomed Honor

  • @kilmerval
    @kilmerval 3 місяці тому +9

    God you perfectly nailed the paranoid tone it's just like listening to the album. In the future can you do a tone guide or something for a modern Iommi sound? His tone devil you know and 13 is incredible

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +3

      Thanks, man. Yes, that has been on my mind.

  • @MikeBassCovers
    @MikeBassCovers 14 днів тому

    It's always astounded me how Iommi made songs in standard tuning sound like the heaviest thing you've ever heard. Those songs still have that effect today. When I hear Electric Funeral it sounds like the nastiest doom ever. STANDARD TUNING!!!

  • @revsharp777
    @revsharp777 3 місяці тому +6

    I've been playing 8s for the last couple years and they are phenomenal. More attack, more clarity, tighter low end & great playability. If you're ham fisted, you'll have to adjust your technique, but it's worth the reward. Also, since you don't need the same mass to pluck the string, go with a thinner pick if you try 8s. It'll give you a similar feel you're used to with heavier gauges.
    I used 1mm picks with 10 to 13 gauge string sets for many decades. Now, I'm using .60mm with 8 gauge sets and have the same feel.

    • @Louzahsol
      @Louzahsol 3 місяці тому +2

      I use 8s with dunlop 3mm stubbies. It gets that nice tony immigrated pick squeak

    • @revsharp777
      @revsharp777 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Louzahsol whatever works for you, right?

  • @chipsinger9581
    @chipsinger9581 3 місяці тому +2

    Man! So glad you demoed these. Coming from someone that used to plays the relative tension of 11s. I tinker around with light string tensions a lot to yield different tone results. Also knowing how a supergroup behaves its almost by accident he figured out a way to push a dark and bassy non master volume amp into some heavy territory. The chain starts with the strings attenuation of the lows due to being very light. Everything after thet was slamming the mids and gain. Just a cool full spectrum of sound. Very gnarly stuff is you break it down.
    Also that supergroup sounds great with the 400 watt orange cab man. I'm running hot 100s in an Emperor with mine. Love it. Cheers.

  • @PearlJamaholic
    @PearlJamaholic 3 місяці тому +2

    Beato did a video comparing string gauges a few years back, and that sold me. I switched to 8s and its been great. I think BB King said it about lighter strings, there is no need to work harder for bending. Since switching to 8s, it is now my picking hand that gets tired first, I can play for much longer. And sounding 'heavier' is more in your playing style and gear then string gauge, and Iommi proves it.
    If anyone gets tired or fatigued playing guitar before they actually want to put their guitar down, just needs to move to lighter strings. I doubt anyone would complain their guitar sounds thin if they gave it a fair chance.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +1

      Have heard a couple mention that video Rick did. Going to have to check it out!

  • @racheltuomi8695
    @racheltuomi8695 3 місяці тому +3

    This was a great video man,I loved the sound of those strings; that distortion!😄🤘

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks so much! Playing through that rig is the most fun thing ever. Those strings are the final touch.

    • @racheltuomi8695
      @racheltuomi8695 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DoesItDoom Totally agree with you,damn man; that was heavy AF! 😳

  • @weedian710
    @weedian710 3 місяці тому +4

    9-42 rocks! Gonna have to try those La Bella’s.

  • @ACE-hv5sw
    @ACE-hv5sw 3 місяці тому +3

    Cool! I was never into music and listened to BS last year for the first time and started playing guitar because of Tony. I’ve only practiced playing songs from first 3 albums and immediately put 8’s on my new SG w/P90’s so now I have to get these strings! I don’t know what it is but I only have interest in learning/playing sabbath songs.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +3

      I went through that exact same thing at one point. Learning and playing Sabbath songs along with chasing the classic Sabbath tone is one of life’s great joys for me.

  • @marquisdecarabas1312
    @marquisdecarabas1312 3 місяці тому +8

    I would not use them because i grap very hard with my fretting hand and would go out of tune in no time 😂 but i would buy both sets just because of the cool artwork. Yes, i confess i am a Sabbath and Iommi Fan-Boy since i was a toddler (my mom listend to black sabbath😅) and here we are 38 years later.
    But sadly they are not availible in Germany. La Bella does not ship to Germany, to order from Sweetwater from oversea is a big trouble thing and i dont support amazon. 🤷🏻

    • @cuda426hemi
      @cuda426hemi 14 днів тому

      YOu can get .008 sets from Dean Markley and Ernie Ball probably others, Billy Gibbons and Dunlop have been doing ultra lights for a few years now - .006s and up. Rev Willie's Mexican Lottery brand to be specific. Seems La Bella is late in the game. 👀

  • @FizzzieCat
    @FizzzieCat 3 місяці тому +1

    Great vid and tone!

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому

      Thanks! Lots of fun playing though that rig. 🙏🏻🤘🏻

  • @garycoates4987
    @garycoates4987 2 місяці тому

    I use 9s right now tuned down to D , I have a very light touch and use a rounded golden gate mandolin pick, with big frets you can actually get a lot of control in heavy music techniques once you get used to the lighter touch. I'm not dealing with an extreme injury like Tony but from years of factory work and being in my 50s my dexterity isn't like 20 year old me and sometimes my finger joints have have pain after work so Iommi's a huge influence on me for finding ways to work around pain , he was already one of my biggest guitar heroes all the way back to first learning but the inspiration to find a way to make it work when it's difficult kept me learning and working through painful playing experiences

  • @bl4ckph4ntomm
    @bl4ckph4ntomm 2 місяці тому

    Wow you really nailed that tone
    This could be the closest sound to classic 70's Sabbath's tone ever replicated
    Good work!

  • @RunningMan40510
    @RunningMan40510 3 місяці тому +4

    Guitars going slightly out of pitch is what made things so spooky. You can do this with 10-48 Power Slinkys tuned to B and for G# TUNING 11-52 Skinny Top Heavy Bottom. It sounds old, groovy and dark. Having proper tension is a tone killer in a very bad way when it comes to doom.

    • @veljkozindovic6835
      @veljkozindovic6835 3 місяці тому

      I think its all about how your nut is filed for the string gauge

  • @jjcollins
    @jjcollins 3 місяці тому +1

    Awesome video to see today as I just received 2 sets myself in the mail about an hour ago! Going to be interesting for me as I usually play 10's on almost everything. Awesome playing and tone as always! I will be stringing up my Epiphone Monkey shortly and seeing how these work out. Wish me luck : )

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +1

      Come back and let us know how it went!

  • @fabhescher2108
    @fabhescher2108 3 місяці тому +1

    This video is excellent. Thank you!

  • @garfield1987
    @garfield1987 3 місяці тому +1

    love your videos dude, keep it up! also awesome beard.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому

      Thanks man!

    • @garfield1987
      @garfield1987 3 місяці тому

      @@DoesItDoom no problem dude! keep making awesome videos!

  • @Louzahsol
    @Louzahsol 3 місяці тому +3

    I’ve been using Ernie ball 8’s on my sg forever. Since I heard the first sabbath album

  • @danielperry6692
    @danielperry6692 3 місяці тому +3

    Just bought 2 packs of the C# sets. Looking forward to trying them out!

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +2

      Nice! Come back and let us know how it went!

  • @JockeLundgrenTV
    @JockeLundgrenTV 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video. Thank you very much. Tony Iommi FOREVER! 💜

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for watching!

  • @nickbrosnowski
    @nickbrosnowski Місяць тому

    Thanks! Been playing since the 60s, this is the last piece of the puzzle to that tone😊😊😊

  • @mykneeshurt8393
    @mykneeshurt8393 3 місяці тому +1

    Great history lesson and video.

  • @wittvonwitt4403
    @wittvonwitt4403 3 місяці тому

    Just ordered both sets!

  • @CannibalCrunch
    @CannibalCrunch 3 місяці тому +2

    La Bella strings are awesome! I discovered them from Bob Vigna of the band Immolation. He uses 13-56 for C Standard and I decided try them out and they sound great 🤘

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +1

      I’m getting a couple packs of their 13-56 sets to try for sure.

  • @mikeg6666
    @mikeg6666 3 місяці тому +2

    Just put these in my cart , but I might have some extra packs to make the exact setup.... Iommi rules 🤘 PS killer as always bro , you should do a Sabbath/Iommi segment once or twice a month in the same tuning's and songs he played them in. I think that would be awesome for us die hard Sabbath fans ✌️🤘

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks, Mike. I have been gearing up to do some more focused Iommi content here. It’s always been my favorite thing to do.

    • @mikeg6666
      @mikeg6666 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DoesItDoom Excellent , looking forward to it. Can never get enough Sabbath 👍🤘

  • @danielkosmider8715
    @danielkosmider8715 3 місяці тому +3

    Cool video Steve! Just curious how the Walpurgis pedal sounds compared to a Rangemaster through those Laney's. Just dawned on me to try my Walpurgis with my new BL30. Duh!

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +2

      Sounds extremely close to the actual rig! We used my Supergroup and Rangemaster as the tone reference target for all of that development.

  • @weedian710
    @weedian710 3 місяці тому +2

    That tone is fuckin awesome!!!

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому

      Thanks dude. Playing through this rig is endless hours of fun. It just has the tone.

  • @skipfantry5059
    @skipfantry5059 3 місяці тому

    I used a .086-19 set for F# standard on a Ibanez Mikro 22" 6 string - it's a MONSTER

  • @silverjaw138
    @silverjaw138 3 місяці тому +1

    String size is like shoes.
    Wearing big shoes won’t make you run faster.
    Big strings won’t make you sound bigger.
    I’ve got several guitars tuned to C# standard.
    One has bigger strings, still comfy but about like 10s in E.
    The other one has lighter strings for that tuning, very slinky but it stays in tune and intonates well.
    The lighter stringed guitar sounds better, bends are easy and sound killer, overtones ring and ring.
    Also, the lighter strings bloom out when struck and are quite a bit brighter.
    Great video bro!

  • @plantesounds8836
    @plantesounds8836 3 місяці тому +2

    Let the renaissance of light strings begin. It’s a rarely spoken of element of the classic 70s tone. I’ve heard recently those wrap around tailpieces lend a little more string stiffness. I’ve wondered if that could contribute to handling lighter strings. I’ve been thinking of trying one for some time. Do you perceive any difference compared to your standard SG? Anyone else on here have experience with that?

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +2

      Wrapping the tailpiece reduces the break angle which reduces string tension. It’s slight, but you can notice it.

    • @plantesounds8836
      @plantesounds8836 3 місяці тому

      @@DoesItDoom i assume you mean wrapping around a stop bar tailpiece? How about on the wrap around style like that Iommi SG or the SG Special?

  • @pierrebidondo4095
    @pierrebidondo4095 5 днів тому

    That Sound🤘🏽

  • @user-qd9mm5mt4i
    @user-qd9mm5mt4i 3 місяці тому +2

    I use 9s on some guitars (Tuned dropped D) but these Tony strings are crazy thin, especially of you are tuning even lower.

  • @Loki_FPV666
    @Loki_FPV666 3 місяці тому +1

    Two years ago I slipped on some ice and both broke and dislocated my pointer finger on my fretting hand. Even after a year of physical therapy I'm still not back to full finger strength so I have been playing really light strings for a while now and I gotta say I really like the way they feel and sound.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому

      Great that you were able to work around the injury man! What strings and tuning have you been using?

    • @Loki_FPV666
      @Loki_FPV666 3 місяці тому

      @@DoesItDoom I've been using a standard set of 10's tuned down to C or C#. I haven't found a set I like yet for E standard tuning. On my bass I've been using .045-100 and tuning down to C or C#

  • @75YBA
    @75YBA 3 місяці тому +3

    I’ve used 9’s for over ten years now. It’s amazing how many people assume he’s using thick strings.

    • @marquisdecarabas1312
      @marquisdecarabas1312 3 місяці тому +2

      I think it is because of the thick and heavy sound of Sabbath in general. Many people dont understand that Iommis sound lives in a symbiosis with Geezers fantastic Bass playing and sound. Thats what i guess. I struggled with that myself for many many years and was always disapointed with my guitar sound until i found an isolated guitar track of Iommi. That was the moment i realised how important a Bass guitar can be. 😅
      Since then inplay Guitar AND Bass to creat loops i can play along with the guitar.

    • @ZombiedustXXX
      @ZombiedustXXX 3 місяці тому +3

      @@marquisdecarabas1312 There is about a one hour long interview on Gibson TV (on youtube) where Iommi mentioned that he told producers of their music to NOT separate/isolate the sounds of the guitar and bass. Tony knew that the guitar and bass sounds better as a greater mass of sound when combined.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +3

      There is so much truth to what you're saying here. Those isolated Iommi guitar tracks are truly eye opening. Brighter and less gain than most people would expect by a long shot. Geezer's bass had a huge impact on the overall tone and timber.

  • @vannmagruder9038
    @vannmagruder9038 3 місяці тому +2

    It seriously blows my mind those pickups aren’t hotter, I played one of those in Chicago and it sounded so much fuller and hotter than a regular sg special

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +1

      Right around 7.9kOhm. They sound super similar to the pickups in the mid 60’s SG specials I’ve had.

    • @vannmagruder9038
      @vannmagruder9038 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DoesItDoom interesting, I’ve messed with modern SG specials and could’ve been fooled, I figured Gibson tried to match the jaydee pickup mods

  • @cody8804
    @cody8804 3 місяці тому +1

    I have nerve damage in my index finger from a very bad knife accident but thank god it’s my picking hand. I could not imagine trying to barre chords. I really feel for Iommi. Having pressure on an area with nerve damage is the most disgusting feeling I can only compare it to something like if you ever put a 9v battery on your tongue as a kid. It’s not pain as much as a disgusting feeling you have to pull away from

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +1

      Insightful. That really does paint the picture.

    • @normdeplume6492
      @normdeplume6492 3 місяці тому +1

      I nearly severed the tip of my right middle finger when I was kid. One small area of that cut has permanent nerve damage. It is on the side of that finger and mostly shielded by my index finger. When I do manage to bump it, it is a horrible feeling for such a small bit of finger. I shudder and cringe just thinking about it.
      It's not at all like any other pain I have experienced but not so much like pain as you say. The 9-volt battery on your tongue is a great analogy to describe it. The nerve damage is still worse though. I have never heard anyone else explain the feeling before. I concur with your description.

  • @Flatule
    @Flatule 3 місяці тому +2

    I use 11 to 56 for both D std and C#. I might try this to throw me off and escape stagnation.

  • @dokazaado
    @dokazaado 3 місяці тому +1

    The super light B string is probably not necessary for those of us with digits that are whole, but light strings are definitely key. 10-46 for C# Standard do the job nicely. I didn't know Tony filed down his frets, tho! Cool information. It definitely helps when playing with super light strings to have smaller frets - much less likely to fret a note sharp. Something like Jescar 45085 is the way.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому

      The light B is likely not necessary for sure! Haha.

  • @kevinkinnu341
    @kevinkinnu341 3 місяці тому +1

    You got his exact tone. Impressive

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому

      Thanks man! Pretty close to the exact rig, so it wasn’t too tough.

  • @GothicXlightning
    @GothicXlightning 3 місяці тому +2

    side note:
    i see you have your Mighty Monkey of Honor
    i did sat infront the OG Monkey he had when it was in the display box in Hardrock NYC
    but is not there anymore under his poster, Iommi's Poster
    truly wander if they send the guitar back to England ?

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому

      I stood before it when it used to be at the Hard Rock as well. I’m sure it went to Gibson for them to use as reference when they did the custom aged Monkey SG’s a few years back. Perhaps it’s made its way back to Tony? Certainly a very valuable instrument at this point.

    • @GothicXlightning
      @GothicXlightning 3 місяці тому

      man i figure that you may have a better idea than me of what happened to lil IMP Monkey, for some reason it makes sense what you are saying
      maybe Our uncle Iommi said ''F**ckIT Give me back my Monckey you greedy useless 'Hardrock' place, it belongs to me''
      i hope that is what happened
      never understood why it end up here in NY
      Don't think we deserve it, is just too pure and Angelic for this broken city of ours to have around
      now one of Dime bag's Guitars is chilling by the picture of Sir iommi which i am ok with that..
      i have sit for Hours right infront of Iommi's picture when his guitar was on display
      my favor most safer stop in the whole city aside my Girl's house..
      btw love your channel brother, know that you ll always have a DOOMMETAL ALLY in me and i have a very unhealthy obsession with Doom instrumental gothic music
      since i am also a composer and Guitar player with Black Gibson Guitars of honor on hand
      look for my little old low quality video called MYSTERY - DRAGOTH BELMONT DOOM MUSIC
      IF you are willing? o think you may grow to like it despite it's endless flaws
      working now on refining my sound and continue all my doom instrumental passion projects

  • @gooseabuse
    @gooseabuse 2 місяці тому

    I've come to realize that string Guage is just one component of tone. It needs to be balanced with pick-ups, amp settings, and preferred tuning.

  • @simonsmith2642
    @simonsmith2642 3 місяці тому +1

    Ive been using 8-38 stainless for years. Just strings 12 sets 40 ish bucks. These are super custom gauge I might have to try them out. I have dystonia in my hands, chunky necks and super light strings keep me rocking.

  • @Apemopo
    @Apemopo 3 місяці тому

    Tony Iommi is the coolest! kinda wanna try these xD yeaaaaaaa

  • @comet206
    @comet206 3 місяці тому +1

    string gauge does matter though if you down tune a whole lot, and are also going for a more modern sound. if string gauge didn't matter at all, we wouldn't have bass strings. there also wouldn't be any point in using a 7 string. i agree though pretty much any genre outside of like djent or certain types of metal, thin strings sound good and have more playability.

  • @WorshipGuitarist4life17
    @WorshipGuitarist4life17 3 місяці тому +1

    What would I tune the B, 8 too?? I just think that would be too light. But I'm s fan of up-tuning

  • @metalheadbill
    @metalheadbill 3 місяці тому +2

    Just ordered two packs of each, I just have to give them a try. I normally use Slinky 9s or 10s.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +1

      Come back and let us know what you think!

    • @metalheadbill
      @metalheadbill 3 місяці тому

      @@DoesItDoom will do!

  • @EclipseAtDusk
    @EclipseAtDusk 3 місяці тому +1

    I use an ernie ball 8-38 set in standard on my strat, it just Works Perfectly, tbh
    I’m highly tempted to go low tension on all my guitars

    • @mikeg6666
      @mikeg6666 3 місяці тому +1

      Same here I've been using EB Cobalt's 8-38's and 9-42's for the past couple of years and really like them!

  • @phillippitts6294
    @phillippitts6294 3 місяці тому +3

    I need those, just for the sake of it. Did you have to do another setup on the sg when you changed strings?

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +3

      This guitar was setup in E-standard, so I didn't have to do much. Minor truss rod adjustment.

    • @phillippitts6294
      @phillippitts6294 3 місяці тому

      @@DoesItDoom Thanks Steve ☠️ In Iommi we trust !

  • @joeljukus9129
    @joeljukus9129 3 місяці тому +1

    nailed the classic Sabbath tone

  • @MarkDaniels2787
    @MarkDaniels2787 3 місяці тому +2

    I was explaining Tony's story last night and watched most of those videos lol

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +1

      Had to watch a couple to review the details!

    • @MarkDaniels2787
      @MarkDaniels2787 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@DoesItDoom it's an amazing story

  • @Supertzar999
    @Supertzar999 3 місяці тому +1

    What's the Laney head on the bottom? Looks like the shed model with a Klipp logo. I currently own the same 60w you're playing through. Also have a 100w Klipp.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому

      That’s Matt Pike’s 100W Supergroup that he got from Jon Davis (Conan). Very strange as the tolex, logo, grill cloth, and piping is definitely Klipp style but the amp is a Supergroup. I’ve never seen any sort of transitional model so I’m not sure what to make of it.

  • @antipusrises
    @antipusrises 3 місяці тому +1

    Is there a slight delay applied to one of the amps? Whatever double-tracking you're doing is absolutely nailing the sound.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +2

      All of the tracks were recorded through the 100W. Likely just my imprecise playing causing any of the slight delays lol. It’s super a super fun rig to play through. Glad you’re digging the tone!

    • @antipusrises
      @antipusrises 3 місяці тому

      @@DoesItDoom Maybe it's a case where imperfection leads to perfection. 😆

  • @OneReportersOpinion
    @OneReportersOpinion 3 місяці тому +1

    "Necessity is the mother of invention" as the proverb goes.
    I guess you need a light touch with these 8s or else you'll chord out of tune a bit? Sounds great through your set up.
    I do like thin strings like 9s for heavier or distorted tones, eg with a super Strat. There seems to be more definition & less flub in there compared to even 10s.

  • @basementriffs
    @basementriffs 3 місяці тому +1

    Have you done any videos comparing and detailing the 100 and 60 watt Laney's? Which one nails his tone better? Looked through your videos and couldn't find anything. A video on those would be awesome. From what I've gathered, Tony started out using the 60 watt on the first album and later went to the 100 watt, but it's not clear to me if he continued using the 60 watt in the studio and only used the 100's on tour, or began using the 100 in the studio (mixed with the Klipp on a few very random tracks).

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +1

      Not yet, but I do have plans to compare them in a livestream soon. Not that different overall, but I would say the 100W has just a touch more low end and "thump" (for lack of a better term). Not a dramatic difference.

    • @basementriffs
      @basementriffs 3 місяці тому

      @@DoesItDoom Will be looking forward to it! Please open them up, show the transformers and give us some gut shots too!

  • @mikerauter1859
    @mikerauter1859 3 місяці тому +1

    I'd love to know Tony's model and setup of his strat he used on wicked world. I'm assuming same guage strings and playing through the bridge pickup?

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +1

      Bridge pickup for sure based on the tone of the song and that Tony never really used the neck pickup in his SG. Probably super light gauges as well.

    • @mikerauter1859
      @mikerauter1859 3 місяці тому +2

      @@DoesItDoom thanks Steve

  • @electricsuitbatman
    @electricsuitbatman 3 місяці тому

    Ill tryem. Got a .60 on low E rn lol

  • @FizzzieCat
    @FizzzieCat 3 місяці тому +1

    Can you demo the 9s set with D flat as well? I typed this while watching, no need to reply as I have seen the end if the video now!

  • @Antonio_bandana0u812
    @Antonio_bandana0u812 3 місяці тому +1

    If your guitar is setup with 10’s and you go to those 9’s , how much do you need to re-setup your guitar ? Can they just switch without a new setup ?

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +1

      Could use some slight adjustment for sure, but it won’t be horrible in most cases.

  • @tonyiommi4061
    @tonyiommi4061 3 місяці тому +1

    La Bella Strings are the best in my opinion i been using them since i first learned Tony used them i have a set of 46-10 on my main guitar and i have not changed them in 10 years and i play that guitar everyday ... i would buy those Iommi strings as a cool collectable only and not use them ..

  • @jefft5854
    @jefft5854 3 місяці тому +1

    Is intonation ok on the light strings? Tuning down to B standard on a Fender with 11s I found intonation above the 12th fret to be somewhat messy on the unwound strings.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому

      No issues with these in E.

    • @jefft5854
      @jefft5854 3 місяці тому

      @@DoesItDoom Thanks!

  • @creamwobbly
    @creamwobbly 3 місяці тому +1

    Aaaand SRV used heavy strings for his super-bright chainsaw tone.
    So many people just don't get it. Heavy tone, light strings. Bright tone, heavy strings.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому

      This is what I hear as well. Heavier strings with more tension tend to accent the highs, lighter strings with less tension tend to accent the lows.

  • @johngrasso1483
    @johngrasso1483 3 місяці тому +1

    Wish people would play more stuff from the Dio years.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому

      I should do that. Never been quite as interested in playing the songs from the Dio eras, although I do enjoy many of the tunes.

  • @melchiando
    @melchiando 3 місяці тому

    I've always had the opinion, that if black sabbath had a weakness , it was Ozzy! Which is a crazy thing to consider. That's how talented this band was folks!

  • @isolateddemon9438
    @isolateddemon9438 3 місяці тому +1

    THE LORD OF THE RIFF.🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @ABoyd1852
    @ABoyd1852 3 місяці тому +2

    5:00 mark. That sounds like me with light strings HA. It would probably be great practice for me to use those on one guitar. Work on feel and touch.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +2

      Definitely requires a lighter touch. Whether that is good or bad I don’t know lol.

    • @normdeplume6492
      @normdeplume6492 3 місяці тому +1

      It is most definitely worthwhile to practice on developing a lighter touch. Especially practicing with lighter gauge strings and lower tunings. If you have an extra guitar to practice like that. Do it.
      Even if down tuned styles are not what your into, it will help you realize how little effort is actually required for fretting even on higher gauges and tunings. What you practice on the down tuned guitar will carry over to your standard tuned guitars. It helped me immensely towards loosening up my fingers and eliminating hand tension.

    • @normdeplume6492
      @normdeplume6492 3 місяці тому

      @@DoesItDoom It is most definitely good. That's the whole point of Tony's set up, minimizing the effort of fretting to minimize the pain of playing with his damaged fingers. It's what created his style.

  • @unkolawdio
    @unkolawdio 3 місяці тому +1

    Yep

  • @manfrombritain6816
    @manfrombritain6816 3 місяці тому +2

    I have no idea how he didn't go out of tune. i used like... normal gauge strings for our first ever gig and downtuning to D resulted in constantly slipping out of tune.
    i can't imagine how he tuned to C with fuckin banjo strings and shit

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +1

      He's talked about tuning being a struggle back in the day.

  • @clintbrown9622
    @clintbrown9622 3 місяці тому

    La Bella strings are awesome! I never tried the Iommi set but I do use their 7 string set 11-70. Saw them on sweetwater and figured Id give them a chance. Besides DAddario strings La Bella strings are my pick. Ernie Ball strings are trash, GFS used to be good(havent used in years now) and Elixir strings are amazing for acoustic! Last and most important Stringjoy is over rated and feel like crap. Only good thing is being able to build your sets outside of that stringjoy just dont seem as quality ad DAddario or La Bella. DAddario Chromes(flat wound) are amazing! And half rounds are good too.

  • @thefragtasmo
    @thefragtasmo 3 місяці тому +2

    Almost can't even see 'em on there.

  • @nonplayablecharacter1438
    @nonplayablecharacter1438 3 місяці тому +1

    "Iommic" I like that.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому

      Al Cisneros / Sleep gets all the credit for inventing that term. lol.

  • @andytorres5911
    @andytorres5911 Місяць тому +1

    Can these be tuned to Csharp !?!?

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  Місяць тому +1

      Tony plays the 9’s in C#.

    • @andytorres5911
      @andytorres5911 Місяць тому

      @@DoesItDoom gotcha, i was wondering how they would sound tuned to C#. Or are These strings pretty much only for drop D#? I would love the lighter strings but would still like to change from drop D# to C# and am just wondering if that’s an option with these strings

  • @guitaristssuck8979
    @guitaristssuck8979 3 місяці тому +1

    It's not drop D# or drop C#, it's C# tuning... or E and C and D recently

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому

      Yeah. Bit of a misnomer. 🤷

  • @melchiando
    @melchiando 3 місяці тому

    I know you metal guys would die before mentioning Jerry Garcia, but speaking of players with f'd up fingers, among others. But you could say it makes you play diff and kinda be an anomaly, distinct style. Obviously Jerry is no Tony, but he's no slouch on the axe. You nailed that tone my brother!

  • @parkerellerbeck1674
    @parkerellerbeck1674 3 місяці тому +1

    Great now we need geezer strings for c#

  • @mikethebloodthirsty
    @mikethebloodthirsty 3 місяці тому

    La Bella used to do cheap classical strings... Then they tripled the price for the same string. I dont get how they went from being a good value budget option to so pricey... Ill stick to rotosounds.

  • @januszjankes6423
    @januszjankes6423 3 місяці тому +1

    🤘👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹🤘

  • @andrewbecker3700
    @andrewbecker3700 3 місяці тому +2

    Iommic style. It's a "thing".

  • @Mr.Pink1776
    @Mr.Pink1776 3 місяці тому

    I would hate using these strings.

  • @rocketpigrecords3719
    @rocketpigrecords3719 3 місяці тому

    Long scale lengths and thick strings are a meme.
    Go watch the video for 5 Minutes Alone & watch the guitar cam. Way floppy, but Dime is not only in control, he could have set his guitar up any way he wanted.
    24 3/4" scale, btw.
    I got to play a friend's Schecter LP alike. 25.5", .60 low string...novelty wore off in minutes. Hated it.
    For DOOM, well, the fat is in the slack.

  • @eastcoastaj5048
    @eastcoastaj5048 3 місяці тому +1

    He had to change how he played because of his accident.

  • @throgwarhammer7162
    @throgwarhammer7162 3 місяці тому +3

    Now cut off your finger tips and fabricate some new ones for the most authentic tone! 🤣
    Also, what do you think of that guitar? Is it worth the price over a regular Gibson SG?

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +2

      I’m super impressed with it. Picked it up about a month ago for $1550 on the used market.

    • @mos6507
      @mos6507 3 місяці тому +1

      @@DoesItDoom what a bargain considering what those went for new.

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +2

      @@mos6507lots of them on the used market these days. Just gotta be patient and wait for the right one.

  • @SkeeterMcBeater
    @SkeeterMcBeater 2 місяці тому

    Goofy guages for goofed up fingers. Growing up working poor in WV USA, seemed like every other man had missing digits.

  • @Lorak669
    @Lorak669 3 місяці тому +1

    way off on the right handed guitar :P

    • @DoesItDoom
      @DoesItDoom  3 місяці тому +1

      🥲🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @sekritdokumint9326
    @sekritdokumint9326 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey i've got a question, at 0:50 is that sound double tracked guitars, reverb or are you hitting two strings at the same time? Or maybe it's something different im not aware of?