First: That was a good one! Second: Now I am sad because I am reminded of a time where that game was good and had Deck variety that was more than just "I win with my opening Hand or lose to your opening hand!"
I can't help but be a BIT upset at losing Nocturnal Sect. I may not play Astro as much after Shadowbringers, but I always really liked the card system AND the flexibility of being able to be a regen or shield healer as needed. Especially for raids so you can match up fine regardless of what healer you find yourself paired with.
Neutral sect remains and some abilities still do the opposite of what sect you're in, also if you're the only healer in your party while queueing up for 8 man content, the new matchmaking system will prioritize having one barrier one pure healer if possible
@@tsuki4261 pretty sure, said some queue times may be a little longer but not too much, it's not that strong s priority system so if it takes too long it'll have both of one kind
I could be misremembering but I’m pretty only the raid finder and pf will have healer prioritize to one barrier and one pure healer. Normal 8 man content should be the same as now. Of course I could be wrong tho.
@protoxshock dude diurnal and nocturnal sect is gone. Ast has been nerfed. There is only neutral sect. Also raid and 8 man makes no diff. You will be paired 2 healers regardless of specialty. Just like how ast and sch can be paired. There is plenty of sage/sage and Scholar/scholar pairing.
You will never undraw. It is never worth sacrificing buffing a DPS for your own buff. Unless MAYBE you're all melee or all ranged DPS classes. And even then, the minor buff is still probably a bigger deal than T3 Astrodyne
What in the actual fuck. You can't be a developer working on AST, and NOT seeing how dumb some of these tweaks are. Having 2 stacks of Draw is great, but why would they keep Undraw and make it so you can only Redraw ONCE per draw??? Two steps forward, one leap back with that change.
@@romdog1818 Thematically, AST was always about embracing the fate that the cards gave you. In practice... It was a class that largely sought to mitigate RNG. Why even have randomness at all if you got the same result 90% of the time? Both AST and SMN changes have greatly embraced the theme of the class, even if it is less ideal for min/maxing
can you imagine parsers on AST ? wiping when they don't get 3 seals in their openers lmao. All the other changes are great besides the lack of sleeve draw imo
And to add on to that, the re-separation of Lord and Lady forces you to play any seal you get, which means one bad draw and redraw screws you even if your Astrodyne is still on cooldown.
@@TrueChaoSclx I wouldn't consider a free aoe heal getting screwed, is one less heal to cast. And lets be honest, if the Lord buff is really that good they'll just nerf it a few patches down the road.
@@Tezasaurus One of the biggest parts of being a good AST is utilizing all of your ogcds to specifically keep you from casting a healing spell, since AST has very strong ogcds that can top off the party by themselves. Because of this, you must plan ahead what ogcds you will use for your healing in certain moments of a fight, and what happens if you plan to use a Lady and instead get a Lord? That's an extra gcd heal you have to cast. Conversely, if you used your ogcds as planned, then everyone should already be healthy, which in that case you have an extra healing ogcd that you don't need and you would much rather have the damaging ability at that point. The fact that it can either be healing or damage is badly designed in my opinion, as it was back in Stormblood; instead, they should have made it so that, for example, Lady is a regen, and Lord is a chunky heal, or made it so Lady is a dot, and Lord a nuke. Or something else entirely, I dunno, it'd just feel really fricking bad to get a Lady when everyone is already topped off or getting a Lord when you were hoping for a Lady so you don't have to cast Helios
I was worried Astro was going to be changed a lot but these changes are a lot better then I was expecting!. Well except Sleeve Draw, really wishing we could've kept that. I'm so glad my favorite healer is still awesome!
Honestly, I hate the changes to cards. Can't fish for combos as effectively, can't use sleeve draw for three seals. Getting three seals isn't as imperative but the new DPS burst will be hard to get off. Wish they let us convert the an unwanted card Crown cards so we at least have something to do with unwanted seals.
yeah I can already see issues coming up without having sleeve draw, I hope that if it is a problem they'll put it back in. Other then that these changes are amazing!
Just keep in mind you're anticipating the issues of lacking sleeve draw in how its absence will impact a spell none of us have ever used before! Divinitation is just an OGCD now that requires no seals, so you will be able to cast it off the bat and on cooldown regardless of seals. The function we needed it for before is no longer necessary, so it will be an entirely new experience of managing the seals. I won't say I can't see where it's coming from, as the new ability does change based on the gathered seals, and on top of that with 2 charges and undraw actually being relevant, you still have the ability to go through 4 potential seals from the start and built throughout the fight. All while maintaining divinitation without management! :)
Undraw becoming relevant to get the proper seals for Astrodyne shows that it's a really scuffed design imho. You should always be able to play a card without repercussions, that's what shadowbringers minor arcana was good for.
@@Chris-iv8sb Definitely. They should have yeeted that shit into the trash can if it meant we could have sleeve draw or even redraw for minor arcana, either would be way better than undraw. Tbh I would rather have minor arcana still be decided by the arcanum cards, would remove an extra layer of rng since the major arcana would predict what minor you get (I do like the new/not new lady and lord).
My only worry for AST is the rng on seals. I cant imagine that they would remove sleeve draw without making the seals a little more consistent at least
At level 90 you learn macrocosmos, a continuous trap card with the effect to make it so all cards that would be sent to the graveyard are banished instead, a useful floodgate in certain matchups to prevent graveyard centric decks from being able to make their intendod combos unless they have some form of backrow removal or other way to out it.
New/old lady and lord are ok but they just made the card system really really bad. You used minor arcana to get rid of cards you didn't need the seals for. You can't do that now, your basically fucked if you get bad RNG.
If you work out the probabilities, the chance of getting 3 unique seals in 3 consecutive plays (even accounting for redraws and the fact that redraw prevents you from getting the same card) is just 56%. Which means almost half the time you won't be able to get the 5% damage buff unless you hold off on using Astrodyne, but I doubt that will be worth it. Unless they add in more RNG mitigation or change the buff so that there's no damage tied to three unique seals, it's gonna feel pretty bad man.
I wonder what they've done to the job quests that involved the Nocturnal Sect and the barrier healing. I remember a few of those and wonder how they've adjusted those quests since now they will make absolutely no sense.
@@thewarrioroflife3450 There were some quests in Stormblood time frame that utilized it specifically for the quest objectives, like you had to use your healing spells on the target while Nocturnal Sect was active.
People keep forgetting to mention Earthly Star got a MASSIVE damage buff up to 320 potency as opposed to its current 150 after 10 seconds. Its more important than ever for tanks to keep enemies within bounds of your glittery star effect for a big hit of damage with 0 falloff.
Assuming you Redraw properly, under the new rules the odds of getting Harmony of Body are 224/225 (over 99.5%), and the odds of getting Harmony of Mind are 126/225 (exactly 56%). This is notably reduced from the current odds of getting the full buff on Divination, because you're functionally losing one Redraw (since the only reason you might Redraw your first sign is to work around a party comp problem, not something involving the astrosigns). However the overall impact is also way, way lower. I liken it more to getting or not getting the procs as a Dancer. I worry about people carrying over their feeling of its importance from the current expansion and worrying too much about it, but I don't worry about Astro not actually being strong enough. As far as what we USED the Sleeve Draw for in raid, we functionally have that in the form of Divination just always being 6%. We can't as accurately align our signs for our opener, but we don't NEED to because the thing we used to do it for is now automatic.
Don't really like that they reverted lord and lady to what they were in storm blood. Imo being a seal dump and 8% dps buff to a party member is a better use than a coin flip between a heal or a damage ability.
Since it's not possible to redraw or undraw the Lord or Lady, I don't know why they didn't just have the Arcana Draw button convert to a play button after drawing. Have a second play button seems a bit unnecessary.
Why would they change Redraw to be what it is with the new stack ability requiring 3 unique symbols for Max buff? The way Redraw is now allows for more control over rng, why would they even think about limiting that??? I'm pretty annoyed by that change... Almost a 10/10
Well here's the main issue with the changes to Major Arcana - you now have no way to dump unwanted cards. In ShB if you have no redraws and got a duplicate seal you can just major arcana that card instead. So with removal of Sleeve Draw and no way to dump unwanted seals, AND a single redraw per draw your own Astrodynes are probably going to be more crap than amazing. That's not to say that a bad Astrodyne is heavily influential, but the main reward system is no longer there ala Divination.
I'm still tasting the salt I poured when they changed our cards at the beginning of ShB, but seeing some of the old mechanics come back takes away a bit of it XD The seals mechanic here initially annoyed me, but then I remembered that in some fights I'm hurting SO BAD for mana and am frantically drawing cards JUST FOR THE MP while I count the seconds for Lucid to come off of cooldown, where other fights I slap my cards on the table and we all WRECK SOME FOOLS. The RNGesus of the seals will continue to be a pain in the arse (unless further changes are made), but that chance to choose what type of buff we want is sort of nifty. I will miss Noct sec since one of the biggest reasons I play AST is to have that flexibility in groups, but with the arrival of Sage it makes sense to change us to just regen healers with a bit of shielding in specific abilities. Also, we have some of the BEST-looking spell effects, and I had to rewatch a few parts because I'd stopped listening because I was watching you casting and I spaced out :D
Stacking Redraw charges if you don't need them would be awesome, pretty much my only complaint, the new abilities look great. It's cool to not be dreading an Astro rework for once.
I'm at the same time worried about dealing with bad seal RNG but at least a little relieved that at least only my own damage would suffer from a bad Astrodyne. Already miss Sleeve Draw and I don't even have it in game yet.
AST mains know that since release, they're really just playing FSH. These changes feel more like a "Let the fates decide" class. You will NEVER undraw over a DPS Buff. MEaning it's truly RNG and not fishing. Making RAID buffs dependent on RNG was just an awful idea to begin with. This way it's just yours. So it still feels thematic, but the impact is mostly mitigated.
@@moskoverkk I'll admit I was hoping that second card would augment the first like it did in 3.x it is a let down. (Increased effectiveness vs group) Having a random oGCD heal and a oGCD damage is just weird.
update: the card system is trash .. because as we all know to improve RNG .. give less chances .. asdlfjalsdfkadsfk;s fd.. well I guess it's time to main sage
The lack of sleeve draw + lack of redraw is going to be interesting. I very rarely ever had to deal with not 3 unique signs, and I feel that may change. PLUS I really liked sleeve draw's animation. The rest seems really cool, though.
That's right they used to have that time extension skill, extended almost everything from sprint, lucid dream, lightspeed, and of course your cards. Was so clutch.
people are complaining about the changes to seals but aren't seeing that the seals are a PERSONAL buff, it's a cherry on top. Divination no longer needs it, it's a static 6% buff, is it great to get that buff? Absolutely! Is it 100% make or break? No, I don't think it is, especially with Macro cosmos, lord, lady, and Earthly star in the mix. Also sleeve draw, it's not optimal to not have it but it's also once more not 100% necessary, once more the buff is a personal buff. Astro will still be giving out cards to support team and with Lord well I'd argue they do that even better now.. I don't see it's removal as a negative at all because as I mentioned before, it's a cherry on top. You got the right seals? You get that effect, it's dps increase with 2 different seals anyway since they will cast Malefic faster too... soooo.... Relax about the change and look at the whole picture about the class. I think right now its in a great spot and I hope it doesn't shove out White Mage again but We'll have to see when actual numbers come out for potencies when the expansion drops.
remove astrodyn, revert card changes to shadowbringers, i dont think i will be playing this RNG fiesta, no ty.. hey WHM how ya doing :P shame, i really loved astro but i know i will not enjoy this
I’m also very upset with these changes. I haven’t gotten past level 75 but I can say these chnages make the class feel infinitely easier and I don’t like that. I also don’t like the new ability for the 3 signs Feels insignificant. I never struggle with mana on Astro and yet that’s what they buff with more healing, It feels way more fun giving your team a full boost after getting the rights cards. But no, now we just get it forfree every 2 minutes. Give me a break manI mean can you make the job any easier?? To be fair I can’t compare above this level but given that’s it’s the core mechanics I can’t imagine the class got harder at higher levels. Leave more room for skill
With Sleeve Draw gone I'd like to see Undraw get an upgrade... So if we want to sacrifice a card to get the right seal, we still get something out of it. Hell make it a 50 potency OCG attack and it'd be better than how it is now.
I was REALLY worried with the changes as someone who loves the Astro, in fact I switched from Scholar to Astro, but it really seems like yes it got some changes to the card system, but really came out on top. I love that 6% free damage buff I think that will free up a lot more room to do whatever I need. Plus all the added damage and healing is really a nice boost.
So they put the RNG back into the RNG Healer to a certain degree? I welcome that. Seriously AST was a big disappointment in ShB to me. I will definitely give it a look once EW goes live. And I still want a gambler class for this FF14. xD
so... did i count correctly? AST has 9 oGCD heal opportunities now? (10 if you count Lady). So..... i guess ill never have to gcd heal anymore. Sorry SCH, i think AST just took the ogcd healer crown... Edit: Recounted SCH. You have a theoretical 12 oGCD heals on SCH. Some contradict each other, like the fey skills not being usable during dissipation, but with planing you have them at your disposal. So... let me just hand back that crown real quick ^^"
wonder with Dark Knight, if they pop their "dont die" but recive a total of 2 times their max HP while having Macrocosm, and it was perfectly timed so Macrocosm ends before their skill, will it count the damage done after their HP was depleated to make a full HP heal or only what was done to their remaining HP to 0 to explain in numbers, if Max HP is 1000, and you recive 2000 damage (only survive with "I dont die" skill), then 50% of 2000 is 1000, their Max HP
Goddamn AST changes, they always seem to be a BaLaNcE of good and bad. I look forward to the inevitable adjustments throughout the first half of the expansion.
I'm looking forward to trying out Astro in EW. Maxed WHM first and have gotten bored with it but I hate the current button bloat and complexity of Astro. I don't even bother w/Sleeve Draw or Redraw most of the time because it already feels like a hassle sometimes to keep up with healing, damage, and correctly applying cards.
I am VERY concerned about RNG…and what was going on with the lord of crowns? You are not the only person who mentioned having trouble drawing it. Hopefully that is only a media tour build thing. AST without sleeve draw worries me. Also the redraw change is a nice idea, but you’re never gonna redraw when you have no seals so it seems very strange. As a card player…I’m concerned. But as a healer I’m excited
Gotta say, I was worried when i heard that you are way more rng dependend as an Astro, because I usually have bad luck when it comes to anything rng, but now seeing that they cut the raid buff out of the AoE loop and that the new self buff literally has the best options behind 1 and 2 seals (5% extra healing is fine, but it wont screw you over not getting it), I am way more optimistic that I will keep playing Astro :)
That second charge is actually huge for QoL. Astro used to have a 30 second countdown on their opener because they wanted 3 cards for divination. Now you'll always have the double draw in the opener without waiting for ages.
Really worried about these changes tbh. Been progging ucob on astro and the rng already feels pretty bad on the opener. Losing sleeve draw is especially concerning as it now makes the opener super based on rng whereas before you were practically guarenteed to get three diff seals. Its like the understood the mentality that not getting three diff seals made astro feel bad, so they removed it from divination and added it to an ability that looks so underwhelming (i guess because it is very rng whether you get the full benefit). I understand the devs desire to have astro still feel like an rng card drawing class, but it would feel infinately better if that rng was not tired to any damage or healing cds. The most obvious solution imo would be to add some damage spell that consumes seals and deals more damage based on the different types you had. (as long as the damage increase wasnt too crazy)
Given the tentative minor arcana, they could add the play button on top of the draw minor arcana itself to eliminate button bloat. I assume they can let it’s cool down to run in the background like our earthly star. They can mark it highlight to let player knows they can used it. Either way, I hope they can eliminate the bloat. After all, players who knows to play card will play it in the right time and wouldn’t let it over cap.
And of course Astorologian had to get a card from Yugioh XD And a very good one for that matter, Macro cosmos was banned at some point and then limited...
i'm kind of surprised it's still called Neutral Sect instead of just adopting the name Nocturnal Sect losing sleeve draw is a bummer, but i wouldn't be surprised if they give it back in 6.2 or something, like how they kept trying to remove energy drain and then changing their mind
I fucking LOVE healing as an astro in dungeons. Their that allow you to time your heals just feels so good. Not loving the loss of sleeve draw, but I suppose it is what it is.
the inevitable slew of endless ladies will probably get pretty annoying, but on the bright side, them being AOE means we can probably just take Helios of our hot bars now
There's absolutely no reason that Draw/Play and Minor Arcana/Crown Play need to be separate buttons. It does not prevent those skills from going on cooldown in the background, because there are already skills in the game that work like that. Namely Geirskogul/Nastrond. Nastrond takes over the Geirskogul button during Life of the Dragon, but Geirskogul keeps invisibly ticking down in the background. Consider the amount of button bloat AST has in its kit, the only possible reason I can think they did it like this is either because it lets you track the cooldown while holding a card, or because it's just a straight up oversight.
Astrodyne is pretty underwhelming imo, not only is it a self buff for whatever reason it really doesn't change anything from the seals being on Divination. Either way you need to get 3 seals on a specific time frame, they could just as easily have made Astrodyne be a cooldown and left the seals on Divination and t would be functionally the same. The only real difference is it's less impactful if you screw up.
Some things that kind of confuse me about these changes: Why is Diurnal Sect an active skill when there's no counterpart or reason to not have it activated? Why wouldn't Di just be a passive trait that once unlocked its always active? If there's only 1 sect, how is Neutral neutral? Neutral Sect seems weird to keep applying a shield when the purpose of the rework is to make AST a pure healer. If Noct is Moon and Di is Sun then won't it be out of balance without Noct?
The card changes seem... bad? Not very, but it looks to me like they just removed a lot of the RNG mitigation and then removed some of the RNG penalty. The reason I liked AST (was the aesthetic) was because it had a bit more going on minute to minute and these changes just make it seem less engaging. We will see I guess, but I am not sure why I play a healer anyway these days. Lord and lady coming back is neat but... minor? The skills seem cool anyway.
as a AST main i generally like the healing kit, i loved using diurnal sect cuz its the closest you get to a regen healer. the only issue i have is astrodyne and the card systems. i dont understand the point of NOW trying to give AST personal dps when it was meant to be the weakest but has the best rDPS. the mana portion makes sense but why give it more haste? looking at this clip it dropped to almost a 1 sec cast time. is it to help weave in more skills? cuz that haste tech isnt a dps gain like how lightspeed isnt a dps gain. and the dmg up portion doesnt sit right with me. the card system i dont like at all,if they made the redraw be unlimited when you draw a card and it go away the min you use a card then ill be happy. but if not then they need to bring back sleeve draw, have it do what it did in SB have you draw one free card and one free crown card on top of it giving you a free sign,.
Good to see the Miner Arcana Are back to how they were when they were first introduced, Though they're now AOE instead of Single target :3 Also a word on Card RNG: It makes sense, as you're playing with Tarot cards, and you cannot choose which card you want from the deck, as that defeats the purpose of the system, don't like it? don't play it. Also, still don't like how the effects of the cards are simple Black or white instead of each card, being tarot cards, having their own effects. But people complain and creativity and uniqueness is stifled. also Astro never had any relation to time magic as it is HEAVILY Space themed even the names of the spells are all related to space not time. Anyways, I'm looking forward to playing this As even though the stances are gone for the most part, it's still feeling like the Tarot reading Astromancer that it's suppose to be.
I'm happy for my AST main buddies, I'll be making an effort to actually learn AST this expac but I'll happily stick to my glare mage escapades :D I'm very concerned that the lord/lady rng is really bad, every single video or article I've seen specifically mentions they either couldn't get a Lord or that it took a long time. It should be 50/50 what the heck is going on there?
I know everyone's drooling over Sage but in my opinion, AST is by far the healer that got the most out of the Endwalker update. The new Minor Arcana + Astrodyne mechanics gives back that RNG older AST players miss without hurting their rDPS (it can still hurt their personal dps, but at least it doesn't mess with the cards + divination rDPS) Not to mention the Macrocosmos skill. To me that skill screams AoE benediction if used properly. Either way AST is definitely going to be my choice for the 'pure' healer if i can't do SCH or SGE.
"new minor arcana" is the one we had in SB but AoE. They reverted the changed. Thank god imo. Sure only getting lady was annoying but they were much more interesting to use.
"Macro Cosmos" Welp, RIP any graveyard centric Astro decks
Lmao I actually got that lol, good yugioh reference
Yeeeeeees
Immediately thought of this card when the name came up lmao
@@JJMomoida Same
First: That was a good one!
Second: Now I am sad because I am reminded of a time where that game was good and had Deck variety that was more than just "I win with my opening Hand or lose to your opening hand!"
I can't help but be a BIT upset at losing Nocturnal Sect. I may not play Astro as much after Shadowbringers, but I always really liked the card system AND the flexibility of being able to be a regen or shield healer as needed. Especially for raids so you can match up fine regardless of what healer you find yourself paired with.
Neutral sect remains and some abilities still do the opposite of what sect you're in, also if you're the only healer in your party while queueing up for 8 man content, the new matchmaking system will prioritize having one barrier one pure healer if possible
@@corbentimms9443 wait really? Is the prioritizing thing true? Did they announce that?
@@tsuki4261 pretty sure, said some queue times may be a little longer but not too much, it's not that strong s priority system so if it takes too long it'll have both of one kind
I could be misremembering but I’m pretty only the raid finder and pf will have healer prioritize to one barrier and one pure healer. Normal 8 man content should be the same as now. Of course I could be wrong tho.
@protoxshock dude diurnal and nocturnal sect is gone. Ast has been nerfed. There is only neutral sect. Also raid and 8 man makes no diff. You will be paired 2 healers regardless of specialty. Just like how ast and sch can be paired. There is plenty of sage/sage and Scholar/scholar pairing.
Imagine still having undraw but delete sleeve draw.
They kept undraw? Lmfao
You will never undraw. It is never worth sacrificing buffing a DPS for your own buff. Unless MAYBE you're all melee or all ranged DPS classes. And even then, the minor buff is still probably a bigger deal than T3 Astrodyne
@@Dyskresiac there is literally no reason not to just play the card ever unless you want to see the undraw animation
What in the actual fuck. You can't be a developer working on AST, and NOT seeing how dumb some of these tweaks are.
Having 2 stacks of Draw is great, but why would they keep Undraw and make it so you can only Redraw ONCE per draw???
Two steps forward, one leap back with that change.
@@romdog1818 Thematically, AST was always about embracing the fate that the cards gave you. In practice... It was a class that largely sought to mitigate RNG.
Why even have randomness at all if you got the same result 90% of the time?
Both AST and SMN changes have greatly embraced the theme of the class, even if it is less ideal for min/maxing
can you imagine parsers on AST ? wiping when they don't get 3 seals in their openers lmao. All the other changes are great besides the lack of sleeve draw imo
And to add on to that, the re-separation of Lord and Lady forces you to play any seal you get, which means one bad draw and redraw screws you even if your Astrodyne is still on cooldown.
@@TrueChaoSclx Check the tooltip. Astrodyne doesn't have a cooldown. You can use it immediately when you have 3 seals no matter what.
@@Ephelle I forgot that bit. The point about being screwed by RNG however still stands.
@@TrueChaoSclx I wouldn't consider a free aoe heal getting screwed, is one less heal to cast. And lets be honest, if the Lord buff is really that good they'll just nerf it a few patches down the road.
@@Tezasaurus One of the biggest parts of being a good AST is utilizing all of your ogcds to specifically keep you from casting a healing spell, since AST has very strong ogcds that can top off the party by themselves. Because of this, you must plan ahead what ogcds you will use for your healing in certain moments of a fight, and what happens if you plan to use a Lady and instead get a Lord? That's an extra gcd heal you have to cast. Conversely, if you used your ogcds as planned, then everyone should already be healthy, which in that case you have an extra healing ogcd that you don't need and you would much rather have the damaging ability at that point.
The fact that it can either be healing or damage is badly designed in my opinion, as it was back in Stormblood; instead, they should have made it so that, for example, Lady is a regen, and Lord is a chunky heal, or made it so Lady is a dot, and Lord a nuke. Or something else entirely, I dunno, it'd just feel really fricking bad to get a Lady when everyone is already topped off or getting a Lord when you were hoping for a Lady so you don't have to cast Helios
I was worried Astro was going to be changed a lot but these changes are a lot better then I was expecting!. Well except Sleeve Draw, really wishing we could've kept that. I'm so glad my favorite healer is still awesome!
the double draw ( so triple draw at pull) makes up for it tbh.
They essentially left it and lowered the cooldown by adding another charge to draw though.........
I loved the flavor of being able to cheat fate with sleeve draw. I'm pretty disappointed by that change, though overall AST looks good.
Minor Arcana fuckery again? Sleeve Draw yeeted? W H Y
Honestly, I hate the changes to cards. Can't fish for combos as effectively, can't use sleeve draw for three seals. Getting three seals isn't as imperative but the new DPS burst will be hard to get off.
Wish they let us convert the an unwanted card Crown cards so we at least have something to do with unwanted seals.
I'm excited for the changes to Astro but the lack of sleeve draw worries me a little.
yeah I can already see issues coming up without having sleeve draw, I hope that if it is a problem they'll put it back in. Other then that these changes are amazing!
Just keep in mind you're anticipating the issues of lacking sleeve draw in how its absence will impact a spell none of us have ever used before! Divinitation is just an OGCD now that requires no seals, so you will be able to cast it off the bat and on cooldown regardless of seals. The function we needed it for before is no longer necessary, so it will be an entirely new experience of managing the seals. I won't say I can't see where it's coming from, as the new ability does change based on the gathered seals, and on top of that with 2 charges and undraw actually being relevant, you still have the ability to go through 4 potential seals from the start and built throughout the fight. All while maintaining divinitation without management! :)
Undraw becoming relevant to get the proper seals for Astrodyne shows that it's a really scuffed design imho.
You should always be able to play a card without repercussions, that's what shadowbringers minor arcana was good for.
@@Chris-iv8sb Definitely. They should have yeeted that shit into the trash can if it meant we could have sleeve draw or even redraw for minor arcana, either would be way better than undraw.
Tbh I would rather have minor arcana still be decided by the arcanum cards, would remove an extra layer of rng since the major arcana would predict what minor you get (I do like the new/not new lady and lord).
Maybe if redraw guarantees a different seal
Ok Mrhappy brought up a point that existed back in Stormblood. Lady showed WAY more times than Lord did.
My only worry for AST is the rng on seals. I cant imagine that they would remove sleeve draw without making the seals a little more consistent at least
Rip Gravity 1 Animation.
Still the best looking aoe in the game imo
Yep, I think it looks better than Gravity 2.
At level 90 you learn macrocosmos, a continuous trap card with the effect to make it so all cards that would be sent to the graveyard are banished instead, a useful floodgate in certain matchups to prevent graveyard centric decks from being able to make their intendod combos unless they have some form of backrow removal or other way to out it.
😂😂 I thought the same exact thing! Don’t forget you can summon Helios too 😉
I cant wait for 7.0 then we'll get the most complex AST skill ever for our 100 capstone
Pot of Greed.
New/old lady and lord are ok but they just made the card system really really bad. You used minor arcana to get rid of cards you didn't need the seals for. You can't do that now, your basically fucked if you get bad RNG.
If you work out the probabilities, the chance of getting 3 unique seals in 3 consecutive plays (even accounting for redraws and the fact that redraw prevents you from getting the same card) is just 56%. Which means almost half the time you won't be able to get the 5% damage buff unless you hold off on using Astrodyne, but I doubt that will be worth it. Unless they add in more RNG mitigation or change the buff so that there's no damage tied to three unique seals, it's gonna feel pretty bad man.
Can square just stop constantly removing things from Astro?
I wonder what they've done to the job quests that involved the Nocturnal Sect and the barrier healing. I remember a few of those and wonder how they've adjusted those quests since now they will make absolutely no sense.
IIRC, Diurnal sect is always used in the job story quest. Nocturnal Sect was just mentioned only at one point when you learned it.
@@thewarrioroflife3450 There were some quests in Stormblood time frame that utilized it specifically for the quest objectives, like you had to use your healing spells on the target while Nocturnal Sect was active.
Why is everyone afraid of RNG? Every time we get any kind of RNG in a class, everyone recoils and asks it to be mitigated.
I hear Astrodyne and im reminded of SMT/Persona games lmao
People keep forgetting to mention Earthly Star got a MASSIVE damage buff up to 320 potency as opposed to its current 150 after 10 seconds. Its more important than ever for tanks to keep enemies within bounds of your glittery star effect for a big hit of damage with 0 falloff.
Assuming you Redraw properly, under the new rules the odds of getting Harmony of Body are 224/225 (over 99.5%), and the odds of getting Harmony of Mind are 126/225 (exactly 56%). This is notably reduced from the current odds of getting the full buff on Divination, because you're functionally losing one Redraw (since the only reason you might Redraw your first sign is to work around a party comp problem, not something involving the astrosigns). However the overall impact is also way, way lower. I liken it more to getting or not getting the procs as a Dancer. I worry about people carrying over their feeling of its importance from the current expansion and worrying too much about it, but I don't worry about Astro not actually being strong enough. As far as what we USED the Sleeve Draw for in raid, we functionally have that in the form of Divination just always being 6%. We can't as accurately align our signs for our opener, but we don't NEED to because the thing we used to do it for is now automatic.
Don't really like that they reverted lord and lady to what they were in storm blood. Imo being a seal dump and 8% dps buff to a party member is a better use than a coin flip between a heal or a damage ability.
Since it's not possible to redraw or undraw the Lord or Lady, I don't know why they didn't just have the Arcana Draw button convert to a play button after drawing. Have a second play button seems a bit unnecessary.
Worried about getting annoyed by bad seals for 2 years but more time gimmicks will probably make me still play this over all the others.
Why would they change Redraw to be what it is with the new stack ability requiring 3 unique symbols for Max buff?
The way Redraw is now allows for more control over rng, why would they even think about limiting that??? I'm pretty annoyed by that change... Almost a 10/10
Guess they wanted us to feel like real card game players, relying once more on the gcd gods lol
Well here's the main issue with the changes to Major Arcana - you now have no way to dump unwanted cards. In ShB if you have no redraws and got a duplicate seal you can just major arcana that card instead. So with removal of Sleeve Draw and no way to dump unwanted seals, AND a single redraw per draw your own Astrodynes are probably going to be more crap than amazing. That's not to say that a bad Astrodyne is heavily influential, but the main reward system is no longer there ala Divination.
If minor arcana worked as it does now, this wouldn't be an issue
@@Dae-Dae97 Could you elaborate a bit?
@@mathewkloepfer664 if you could convert cards into lords or Lady, you wouldn't have to worry so much about the rng screwing you over
@@Dae-Dae97 Agreed! I liked the mechanic
Maybe redraw could guarantee a different seal.
I'm still tasting the salt I poured when they changed our cards at the beginning of ShB, but seeing some of the old mechanics come back takes away a bit of it XD
The seals mechanic here initially annoyed me, but then I remembered that in some fights I'm hurting SO BAD for mana and am frantically drawing cards JUST FOR THE MP while I count the seconds for Lucid to come off of cooldown, where other fights I slap my cards on the table and we all WRECK SOME FOOLS. The RNGesus of the seals will continue to be a pain in the arse (unless further changes are made), but that chance to choose what type of buff we want is sort of nifty. I will miss Noct sec since one of the biggest reasons I play AST is to have that flexibility in groups, but with the arrival of Sage it makes sense to change us to just regen healers with a bit of shielding in specific abilities. Also, we have some of the BEST-looking spell effects, and I had to rewatch a few parts because I'd stopped listening because I was watching you casting and I spaced out :D
Stacking Redraw charges if you don't need them would be awesome, pretty much my only complaint, the new abilities look great. It's cool to not be dreading an Astro rework for once.
They really butchered the card system, every card was unique before now they all provide damage, what is the point to draw them then
I totally agree the card system is now trash ... because as we all know the best way to improve RNG is to give less chances .. smh
I'm at the same time worried about dealing with bad seal RNG but at least a little relieved that at least only my own damage would suffer from a bad Astrodyne. Already miss Sleeve Draw and I don't even have it in game yet.
AST mains know that since release, they're really just playing FSH. These changes feel more like a "Let the fates decide" class. You will NEVER undraw over a DPS Buff. MEaning it's truly RNG and not fishing. Making RAID buffs dependent on RNG was just an awful idea to begin with. This way it's just yours. So it still feels thematic, but the impact is mostly mitigated.
Changes to Lord&Lady "Minor Arcana" does fell bad, plus we will have 2 separate play buttons.
And bring sleeve draw back!
@@moskoverkk I'll admit I was hoping that second card would augment the first like it did in 3.x it is a let down. (Increased effectiveness vs group)
Having a random oGCD heal and a oGCD damage is just weird.
update: the card system is trash .. because as we all know to improve RNG .. give less chances .. asdlfjalsdfkadsfk;s fd.. well I guess it's time to main sage
The lack of sleeve draw + lack of redraw is going to be interesting. I very rarely ever had to deal with not 3 unique signs, and I feel that may change. PLUS I really liked sleeve draw's animation. The rest seems really cool, though.
*Swifcasts Ascend on Sleeve Draw*
That's right they used to have that time extension skill, extended almost everything from sprint, lucid dream, lightspeed, and of course your cards. Was so clutch.
TIL that MrHappy gets all the Ladies but really just wants one good Lord.
people are complaining about the changes to seals but aren't seeing that the seals are a PERSONAL buff, it's a cherry on top. Divination no longer needs it, it's a static 6% buff, is it great to get that buff? Absolutely! Is it 100% make or break? No, I don't think it is, especially with Macro cosmos, lord, lady, and Earthly star in the mix. Also sleeve draw, it's not optimal to not have it but it's also once more not 100% necessary, once more the buff is a personal buff. Astro will still be giving out cards to support team and with Lord well I'd argue they do that even better now.. I don't see it's removal as a negative at all because as I mentioned before, it's a cherry on top. You got the right seals? You get that effect, it's dps increase with 2 different seals anyway since they will cast Malefic faster too... soooo.... Relax about the change and look at the whole picture about the class. I think right now its in a great spot and I hope it doesn't shove out White Mage again but We'll have to see when actual numbers come out for potencies when the expansion drops.
remove astrodyn, revert card changes to shadowbringers, i dont think i will be playing this RNG fiesta, no ty.. hey WHM how ya doing :P
shame, i really loved astro but i know i will not enjoy this
I’m also very upset with these changes. I haven’t gotten past level 75 but I can say these chnages make the class feel infinitely easier and I don’t like that. I also don’t like the new ability for the 3 signs Feels insignificant. I never struggle with mana on Astro and yet that’s what they buff with more healing, It feels way more fun giving your team a full boost after getting the rights cards. But no, now we just get it forfree every 2 minutes. Give me a break manI mean can you make the job any easier??
To be fair I can’t compare above this level but given that’s it’s the core mechanics I can’t imagine the class got harder at higher levels. Leave more room for skill
With Sleeve Draw gone I'd like to see Undraw get an upgrade... So if we want to sacrifice a card to get the right seal, we still get something out of it. Hell make it a 50 potency OCG attack and it'd be better than how it is now.
Bruh why the fuck did they think that scholar was fine as is. Ast looks so much better.
Macrocosmos… I don’t know why I bothered checking hard and warrior first. I’m going astro in endwalker.
I was REALLY worried with the changes as someone who loves the Astro, in fact I switched from Scholar to Astro, but it really seems like yes it got some changes to the card system, but really came out on top. I love that 6% free damage buff I think that will free up a lot more room to do whatever I need. Plus all the added damage and healing is really a nice boost.
Good to know that cards are now.. 100% useless... Dammit.
Bole, come back.
I've never heard somebody pronounce "Astrologian" as "Astro logian"
I'm an Arcanist but i became interested in astrologian,but i don't think i have unlocked that yet in endwalker if it is in endwalker.
hmmm okay this isn't so bad afterall. as an AST main, i am excited now!
There is just straight up nothing learned at level 70 now...
Favorite outro during my binge morning. See you in a second
So they put the RNG back into the RNG Healer to a certain degree? I welcome that. Seriously AST was a big disappointment in ShB to me. I will definitely give it a look once EW goes live. And I still want a gambler class for this FF14. xD
Very curious to see how astrodyne will play out.
so... did i count correctly? AST has 9 oGCD heal opportunities now? (10 if you count Lady). So..... i guess ill never have to gcd heal anymore. Sorry SCH, i think AST just took the ogcd healer crown...
Edit: Recounted SCH. You have a theoretical 12 oGCD heals on SCH. Some contradict each other, like the fey skills not being usable during dissipation, but with planing you have them at your disposal. So... let me just hand back that crown real quick ^^"
wonder with Dark Knight, if they pop their "dont die" but recive a total of 2 times their max HP while having Macrocosm, and it was perfectly timed so Macrocosm ends before their skill, will it count the damage done after their HP was depleated to make a full HP heal or only what was done to their remaining HP to 0
to explain in numbers, if Max HP is 1000, and you recive 2000 damage (only survive with "I dont die" skill), then 50% of 2000 is 1000, their Max HP
Goddamn AST changes, they always seem to be a BaLaNcE of good and bad. I look forward to the inevitable adjustments throughout the first half of the expansion.
I'm looking forward to trying out Astro in EW. Maxed WHM first and have gotten bored with it but I hate the current button bloat and complexity of Astro. I don't even bother w/Sleeve Draw or Redraw most of the time because it already feels like a hassle sometimes to keep up with healing, damage, and correctly applying cards.
I am VERY concerned about RNG…and what was going on with the lord of crowns? You are not the only person who mentioned having trouble drawing it. Hopefully that is only a media tour build thing. AST without sleeve draw worries me. Also the redraw change is a nice idea, but you’re never gonna redraw when you have no seals so it seems very strange.
As a card player…I’m concerned. But as a healer I’m excited
I'm just here for the obvious Yu-Gi-Oh reference and the extremely rare SMT/persona reference :D
Gotta say, I was worried when i heard that you are way more rng dependend as an Astro, because I usually have bad luck when it comes to anything rng, but now seeing that they cut the raid buff out of the AoE loop and that the new self buff literally has the best options behind 1 and 2 seals (5% extra healing is fine, but it wont screw you over not getting it), I am way more optimistic that I will keep playing Astro :)
Please return sleeve draw 🙏
That second charge is actually huge for QoL. Astro used to have a 30 second countdown on their opener because they wanted 3 cards for divination. Now you'll always have the double draw in the opener without waiting for ages.
Really worried about these changes tbh. Been progging ucob on astro and the rng already feels pretty bad on the opener. Losing sleeve draw is especially concerning as it now makes the opener super based on rng whereas before you were practically guarenteed to get three diff seals. Its like the understood the mentality that not getting three diff seals made astro feel bad, so they removed it from divination and added it to an ability that looks so underwhelming (i guess because it is very rng whether you get the full benefit). I understand the devs desire to have astro still feel like an rng card drawing class, but it would feel infinately better if that rng was not tired to any damage or healing cds. The most obvious solution imo would be to add some damage spell that consumes seals and deals more damage based on the different types you had. (as long as the damage increase wasnt too crazy)
GG Astro bois
Neutral diurnal shields do currently stack with SCH's galv. They likely do on media tour as well.
Given the tentative minor arcana, they could add the play button on top of the draw minor arcana itself to eliminate button bloat. I assume they can let it’s cool down to run in the background like our earthly star. They can mark it highlight to let player knows they can used it. Either way, I hope they can eliminate the bloat. After all, players who knows to play card will play it in the right time and wouldn’t let it over cap.
But will they fix the clothing glitch? That's all I really want lol. Can't wait for Endwalker!
I think we might be going to the moon :>)
And of course Astorologian had to get a card from Yugioh XD And a very good one for that matter, Macro cosmos was banned at some point and then limited...
Ah Yes the Chad Astro still playing Yugioh in the middle of a fight. In all honesty loving what im seeing minus the deletion of Sleeve draw.
Idk how to use my crown cards now
Im just disappointed with the lack of sleeve draw and the new use of seals. Rng is gonna kill me
AST Parsers gonna jump off either at the start of they don't get their seals, or halfway through if they don't get enough Lord of Crown draws.
I hope with the media tour SE will do something about these off rng mechanics with some form of rng protection.
Yesssss. They brought back old Lady and Lord in a way
Sigh.. Good bye shield AST.. I loved you so.
That Microcosmos ability seems super powerful holy hell
It seems like the dev want to have less rng. So the spells still viable without rolling the cards over and over again.
i'm kind of surprised it's still called Neutral Sect instead of just adopting the name Nocturnal Sect
losing sleeve draw is a bummer, but i wouldn't be surprised if they give it back in 6.2 or something, like how they kept trying to remove energy drain and then changing their mind
Maybe because neutral sect still provides regens.
I am so EXCITED for Endwalker!!!
Super hype for this! Thanks Haps!
ok but what about Undraw
I fucking LOVE healing as an astro in dungeons. Their that allow you to time your heals just feels so good. Not loving the loss of sleeve draw, but I suppose it is what it is.
the inevitable slew of endless ladies will probably get pretty annoying, but on the bright side, them being AOE means we can probably just take Helios of our hot bars now
Gay lady here, I'll take the endless ladies
yesss more solo damage for my main healer im gonna yugioh all the mobs to death
Ty your vids helped me figure out what healer to level first, and it's for sure going to be Astro, it had me drooling 🥰
Excited to have AST as my Pure Healer with SCH as my goto shield healer
Thank you for covering this.
There's absolutely no reason that Draw/Play and Minor Arcana/Crown Play need to be separate buttons. It does not prevent those skills from going on cooldown in the background, because there are already skills in the game that work like that. Namely Geirskogul/Nastrond. Nastrond takes over the Geirskogul button during Life of the Dragon, but Geirskogul keeps invisibly ticking down in the background. Consider the amount of button bloat AST has in its kit, the only possible reason I can think they did it like this is either because it lets you track the cooldown while holding a card, or because it's just a straight up oversight.
Astrodyne is pretty underwhelming imo, not only is it a self buff for whatever reason it really doesn't change anything from the seals being on Divination. Either way you need to get 3 seals on a specific time frame, they could just as easily have made Astrodyne be a cooldown and left the seals on Divination and t would be functionally the same. The only real difference is it's less impactful if you screw up.
Some things that kind of confuse me about these changes:
Why is Diurnal Sect an active skill when there's no counterpart or reason to not have it activated?
Why wouldn't Di just be a passive trait that once unlocked its always active?
If there's only 1 sect, how is Neutral neutral?
Neutral Sect seems weird to keep applying a shield when the purpose of the rework is to make AST a pure healer.
If Noct is Moon and Di is Sun then won't it be out of balance without Noct?
Oh, gotta love that Macrocosmos.
The card changes seem... bad? Not very, but it looks to me like they just removed a lot of the RNG mitigation and then removed some of the RNG penalty. The reason I liked AST (was the aesthetic) was because it had a bit more going on minute to minute and these changes just make it seem less engaging. We will see I guess, but I am not sure why I play a healer anyway these days. Lord and lady coming back is neat but... minor? The skills seem cool anyway.
Thanks for posting these! Great info
as a AST main i generally like the healing kit, i loved using diurnal sect cuz its the closest you get to a regen healer. the only issue i have is astrodyne and the card systems. i dont understand the point of NOW trying to give AST personal dps when it was meant to be the weakest but has the best rDPS. the mana portion makes sense but why give it more haste? looking at this clip it dropped to almost a 1 sec cast time. is it to help weave in more skills? cuz that haste tech isnt a dps gain like how lightspeed isnt a dps gain. and the dmg up portion doesnt sit right with me.
the card system i dont like at all,if they made the redraw be unlimited when you draw a card and it go away the min you use a card then ill be happy. but if not then they need to bring back sleeve draw, have it do what it did in SB have you draw one free card and one free crown card on top of it giving you a free sign,.
YASSD
Thanks for all the work!
Good to see the Miner Arcana Are back to how they were when they were first introduced, Though they're now AOE instead of Single target :3
Also a word on Card RNG: It makes sense, as you're playing with Tarot cards, and you cannot choose which card you want from the deck, as that defeats the purpose of the system, don't like it? don't play it. Also, still don't like how the effects of the cards are simple Black or white instead of each card, being tarot cards, having their own effects. But people complain and creativity and uniqueness is stifled.
also Astro never had any relation to time magic as it is HEAVILY Space themed even the names of the spells are all related to space not time. Anyways, I'm looking forward to playing this As even though the stances are gone for the most part, it's still feeling like the Tarot reading Astromancer that it's suppose to be.
I'm happy for my AST main buddies, I'll be making an effort to actually learn AST this expac but I'll happily stick to my glare mage escapades :D
I'm very concerned that the lord/lady rng is really bad, every single video or article I've seen specifically mentions they either couldn't get a Lord or that it took a long time. It should be 50/50 what the heck is going on there?
AST bros....we won
Yes, but no. Fate will decide that, now more than ever. RNG control heavily nerfed.
I miss pre-shadobringer astro. Loved it. Have hated it since
I know everyone's drooling over Sage but in my opinion, AST is by far the healer that got the most out of the Endwalker update. The new Minor Arcana + Astrodyne mechanics gives back that RNG older AST players miss without hurting their rDPS (it can still hurt their personal dps, but at least it doesn't mess with the cards + divination rDPS)
Not to mention the Macrocosmos skill. To me that skill screams AoE benediction if used properly.
Either way AST is definitely going to be my choice for the 'pure' healer if i can't do SCH or SGE.
"new minor arcana" is the one we had in SB but AoE. They reverted the changed. Thank god imo. Sure only getting lady was annoying but they were much more interesting to use.