The Case of Bass.exe
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- Опубліковано 5 кві 2017
- Sure, we get Bass' backstory in Battle Network 3, is Bass all that he claims to be, or even more?
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Alright let me break down Bass. The real Bass is the exact same Bass across all games. the main reason that this is still the same Bass is because the get ability technique Bass has could not be passed on to the clones. The main reason for Gospel's existence was so Wily could create a Bass clone with the same potential as the real Bass to free alpha. Due to all of the Bass copies being a failure Wily had to strike a deal with the real Bass who could free Alpha. After you fight Bass GS in 3. What he was actually doing was expelling Gospel from his body, remember he only used the power of gospel to heal his wounds just as Serenade stated. Once he realized that gospel was of no use he got rid of it hence Gospel's remains ending up as a giga chip in BN5. However Bass was not fully healed when he expelled Gospel which cause serious defects in his programming and causing him to lose a lot of his original battle data. As a result Bass fled back to the undernet tanted by darkness to heal his wounds, however during that process his auto recovery system had to re-write or rather recreate a lot of his programing which as a result leaves him with a whole new move set. That theory is actually a lot more viable because the strongest forms of Bass in BN4 and BN5 both use what is known as the black barrier which also regenerates like life aura did. As far as the whole not remembering encounters with Megaman. You have to remember that all secret encounters are considered non-canon. Remember you can fight him in BN2 and not only does he not remember, but Megaman didn't even remember bass after the fact he fought a clone lol. Also the dark chips in BN6 are still dark chips, they simply use bug fragments to power up for use because the influence of Nebula is gone. Without nebula grey to infuse literal dark souls into battle chips, the remaining dark chips on the net need a new power source. Bug frag are considered evil junk data so it makes sense that bug frag would power those chips, hence them all beimg the same Bass.
arent the bug rise weapons just the power from a being made entirely of bugs
@@littlemisseevee2309 yes but depending on the game bug data is also the same as evil energy. Or atleast the 2 are used interchangeably. In 2,3, and 6. Bug frags are just treated as bug frags with the exception to gregar itself which is implied to also be like primal evil. As it also has the power to create evil spirits. And when you defeat the cybeast and go the the graveyard area you get an email from Duo stating that you defeated a great evil. In battle network 4 and 5 the is actually more emphasis on bugfrags being actual evil data. In BN4 Bug Charge/Chain of Bug depending on your version are one of the 5 evil chips needed to go to black earth area. Same for BN5. You even need to have an evil soul to even use those chips I believe in those games or they fail.
You confused "dark chips" with "evil chips". The Nebula variety of dark chips are gone after the events of BN5. But "evil chips" such as Static still remain. It's understandable to be confused, since the "evil" chips were called "dark" chips in BN3, and required a hole to be used. They could still be used if a hole was present in bn4, but the only way for a non-dark Megaman to set a hole in bn4 was to use a vdoll. Holes were gone in bn5, so this exploit could no longer be used.
I would personally stick with the hole mechanic from bn3, it was said to draw from the power of Murkland, but was not inherently evil in and of itself (since Serenade also required a hole)
@SaturnineXTS evil and dark are basically synonymous with each other within the context of the series. After all, the Nebula Gray area is called murkland by the gold program that guards the entrance to the Nebula area. As a matter of fact, the full name of the Nebula Area secret area is called the Murland: Nebula area. Higsby also states that using dark chips corrupts a navi's soul and pulls them into murkland. Hence, when you go to black Earth in Megaman BN4, you encounter black navis. Those are the navis who were drawn into murkland by the power of dark chips. Dark chips are also made from Nebula Gray, which is literally man's evil soul digitized. They are a type of evil chips made from digitized evil human soul data.
Also Bass never fought the life virus. If you go back and play BN1 during the end game. You get this email where someone leaked that a navi snuck in and stole a copy of the life virus' defense system. This is later confirmed in BN2 where it is stated in the undernet board that a hooded navi went in undetected and stole the data for the life aura.
So, Gregar and Gospel aren’t the same organism. They expressly state this in BN6.
Also technically Falzar is different since its not made of bugs, and Gregar is the “more canon” story of BN6, in which Bass absorbs Falzar. (basing this on the manga, since in the manga, he becomes F Beast Bass, to fight equally against G Beast Rockman/Megaman.)
derp. Falzar is different power set wise from Gospel and Gregar, since it isn’t made of bugs* Also in both BN6 games, base makes you fight your beast form and then himself with a cybeast absorbed….
Also the real Bass has two encounters in BN5 as long as you have Bass cross mode enabled. chaos Lord was able to copy Bass' form because the real Bass had actually been hiding in the nebula area. Nebula area 4 to be exact, however that is only known if you have Bass Cross.
Bass.Exe has been a Secret boss for every game, except in BN2 because he’s a main boss that you fight before the Gospel Virus
he also was a story boss in bn3 fought just before alpha.
also the one fought in bn2s story was a clone that ended up mutating into gospel.
in bn3 you fight bass twice in the story: one where you're expected to lose (showing up just after flamman.exe, outright akuma'ing him) and the other the aforementioned penultimate boss.
in both cases in bn3, that's the real bass. and that's the only time where the real bass was a story boss you were expected to win.
Have you read the manga based on the NT Warrior/Battle Network series? We get a pretty good back story for Bass.
@Obsessivefanboy I have the physical copies. I don't think you can read them anywhere else. I would really recommend it, though.
@Obsessivefanboy it's sort of a mix. Still kind of it's own thing.
I'm trying to find the extra bass and serenade chapter but I'm having trouble
@@nellewoodruff6337 where can i read the manga?? :( i didnt found that chapter i wanna see Bass backstory
@@ragnarice7978 I read the manga at my library but it was the edition before they added the bonus Bass chapter
If you turn on Bass Cross Code in MMBN5 you can actually fight the 'real' Bass. The original japanese game supported E-reader cards for the GBA, something we didn't have back then in the west. So we couldn't have the full game before MMBN5DTDS where you could use your GBA game (with a Bass Icon save) in the DS game to unlock Bass Cross legit. Here we can get 2 specials encounter with Bass as well as the REAL end boss of MMBN5 which is BassDS or BassXX (same thing just a different name). Basically meaning Bass Dark Soul. The game also follow a bit of the Rockman.EXE movie and Rockman.exe Stream plot points like bass absorbing Nebula Grey power to defeat Slur... The moveset of BassDS are the same as Chaos Lord plus Speed, BlackBarrier, AttackSpeed, AttackPower and he as 4000HP like Nebula Gray Omega. He is also purple teinted.
In the mega man show they also made Bass and Pharoahman the same being
Yeah that was a super weird storyline. PharaohMan was some divine superNavi that died and became Bass… or something like that. It’s been a solid decade since I watched it. Kind of a cool concept though. Like, PM was designed to keep Bass confined it seemed.
Bass if the equivalent of broly in megaman bn
The gospel beast and Gregar are not the same creature, though they are similar
In BN5 there's also an encounter in Oran Area where Megaman and Lan refer to him by name
A legend. That's what he is
There IS a bass in bn 5 but i believe, prehaps, he once again released so much power from bn3 he had to go into a hibernation state.... from which his unconscious spirit flowed into the graveyard,however, his memories were still intact. I'd say more but i may upload a full discusion sometime in the future as my first video
Good theory but i think this is proven wrong by one sentence at the end of BN6. After defeating bass mega askes "do you think he'll be back?" Lan responds "Bass is Bass" meaning they are aware this is him and that even though he was beat he lives on.
Nice catch! I was waiting for someone to bring this point up. Honestly, there are a number of small holes like this. (Bass’ beast changing depending on the version, for example) I did my best to fill in the blanks and explain what the heck happened in BN4-5.
Master Patrick yeah. It really weird. Especially as they mention him by name almost every encounter and when you first find his grave Mega mentions "you dont think they mean..." or something, referring to bass.
But id definitely have to replay the games to figure it out as it does seem like they are two diffrent people. I think one might be a bug frag copy or something.
It's an interesting theory, one thing that I don't think is quite right is that Gospel and Gregar are not the same thing, even though their appearance is slightly similar. Gospel was a culmination of bugfrags taken the form of a beast. Gregar is an ancient being created by SciLab as a weapon that got out of control, forcing them to make another to fight it, Falzer, who also got out of control so they trapped both of them into the underground.
Reid Vx During one of the cutscenes in BN6, we find that they have the same backstory, meaning that they are the same. That's why Falzar had to be created to combat him.
Yeah that’s wrong it’s even stated in bn6 that gregar and gospel were basically made the same way they were made by the accumulation of bug drags the only difference is gregar was at the birth of the new where as gospel was made well with dr A’s involvement
Gospel is artificially made.
Gregar naturally occured.
Both were from bugfrags.
@@roldanmarcelo1636 gospel is made and the leftover data created gregar. But I think I messed up the timeline or got it wrong that gregar created natually and gospel is leftover virus from gregar (gregar is just viruses merged into 1 program or something).
Gregar is older than gospel
Gospel Beast and Gregar are not the same. Gospel beast in the manga, anime, and game where all a result of the group Gospel creating it. Gregar is much much much older and had been sealed away long before any of the events in the Battle Network series.
Bublo ZX I believe the virus beast/gospel beast is a attempt to make the gregar cyber beast I’ve heard that before and W3 would have had knowledge of it there for information was attainable for gospel to find and use. The Thomas light from this series and wily are really underutilized. the virtual timeline is awesome just as much as the robot timeline.
It gets weird when you throw in battle network 4.5 where you can play as bass and fight bass. :Y
Its because we fight as a copy of bass. But this copy bass act like protoman but asking who is he
Bass was a robot master created by dr.wwily to fight megaman wait... that's the wrong bass...
looks Like you are Megaman fan also you've got a lot of pieces of information about it, make more videos about it I am sure you will succeed in that topic
Awesome video man
pretty good video men.
this makes a lot of sense thanks for making this
Not bad actually really good!!!
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He also appears in either 4 or 5 i cant remember but its the area w all the trees on the net
That was in BN6, where there was a hidden entrance to UnderZero, where his grave was found.
@Master Patrick
Where can I find that sweet remix of the Net theme from BN6 in your video?
It's the "Digital Strider ~strident mix~" found on one of the OST's. I can't recall where I found it, since it's been years, but having the track name might help!
Cool theory one problem is in the manga bass absorbed falzar which means he probably couldve absorbed gregar in the game
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BASS IS BADASS!!!!!
Does anybody have a a video telling the whole storyline/timeline of the 6 battle network games ?
You should take a look at my newest video ;) It took some replays and research but I made a timeline video, and even gave you a shoutout in the beginning.
What Is the Song that You used with the voices? Nice vid!
You should make it since u played all 6 you'd get alot of views there's no video up of that
Slave Knight Bass
Gregar is not the same as Gospel though, Gospel is much weaker than Gregar but their origins are basically the same
grey area lmfao
no
no no no
nononononononono! NO!
gregar and gospel isn't the same. NO!
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Hello, good friend.
My only disappointment with this series is that Bass isn’t redeemed into an anti-hero character that will side with megaman but will still occasionally battle with him for a fun rivalry because he’s the only being that can match his power and eventually ends up respecting him. I also wished he was playable although the Bass Cross form is the closest thing possible which is only in MMBN5 and 6 (but with hacks/cheats)
ProtoMan kind of serves that role, but Bass would’ve been a nice twist
@@MasterPatrick not necessarily considering protoman was just a rival that became a good friend and wasn’t an evil being to begin with nor has he done evil things (outside of his dark form when he got corrupted by the dark chip)
Also I’m kind of surprised there was no net Navi version of Sigma and Vile from Megaman X yet Colonel and Iris are in the battle network games and the anime/manga alongside Zero (although he’s only in one specific game in this universe called network transmission which i believe was exclusive to GameCube)
Its better that way imo. Its clear in all BN games that Bass craves power and destruction above all else and sees nothing more in Mega Man than a Navi to be deleted by his own hands. Changing him from the god of destruction to a mere rival of Mega Man would just ruin his character. Besides, Lan and Mega Man already have a bountiful of rivals. Chaud and Proto Man, Dex and Guts Man, Tora and King Man, that green haired guy and Search Man, need I say more?
@@rockinblues7491 Bass was both in the EXE games also that had nothing to do with what I said regarding him becoming redeemed in my original statement.
@@gabrieltejada1697 What do you even mean by "both EXE games"?
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I cant really agree because bass also has twice a appearance in mmbn 5
Thats the first weaker form
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And then there is bass xx after he absorbed nebula grey
Even in the anime after nebula greys defeat bass found the remainds in the undernet and absorbed him.
Then killing slur
So why did he loose his power in 6 because in 5 bass xx is probably at his pinnacle of power.
Maybe because he was beat by megaman, but maybe because of the absents of negative energy.
Nebula grey after all was just a programm for negativ energy manipulation.
Means the story in 5 is:
Megaman defeats nebula grey the first time, but because there still exist a vast amount of negative energy in nebula area nebula grey is formed again as chaos lord. On his way to chaos lord megaman fights the weaker bass and wins later he fights chaoslord and wins. Bass finds the data of chaoslord and absorbs them to be one bass xx but is then defeated by megaman again.
MMBN 4+5 plots always annoyed me.
6 was way worse...
Bass in the manga and battle network series like you said was copied and basically duplicated and the real original one absorbed into him gaining all powers gained it's all after the fifth game bass was the strongest Navi as solo net navis go.
I have a theory that bass is the power of mu from 200 years ago which was enough time bass absorbed with the get ability virus beast aka gospel the Chaos program nebula grey , copied falzar copied gregar and always tried to absorb the hub program but with the damaged chest program it didn't work I believe. As well i believe gospel was an attempted remake of gregar to make the combined falzar/gregar Navi more easy to create and generate to a massive level to help cleanse the earth for world 3 aka www the way blaster man and stone man we're copy and pasted from the show. Great video
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Finish watch the video. Now to read the comments
Hmm....
I pronounce bass as bass don't @ me. I'm wrong and love it.
Take it easy, Doctor Wowee
@@MasterPatrick I.... Don't get that reference.
I'm not knocking you. But people are always trying to change how americans pronounce words. So I had to make the joke.
Weirdly I flipped it in my head and was pronouncing it base. And I realized why bass sound bad. Sound like a fish.
Oh! I thought you were referencing the infamously terrible voice acting in Mega Man 8. Bass is pronounced like the fish, and Dr. Light sounds drunk, slurring words and pronouncing ‘Dr. Wily’ as ‘Doctuh Wowee’
@@MasterPatrick no but I will youtube that. We use to call him bass in america. Then someone came along and said. "No it's base like music."
We have alot of words that don't follow our vocab rules so it get confusing.
But my brain kinda corrected it without me knowing
Also I'm here because the new megaman x dive game on mobile. Bass gs and the bug one is in it.
Same
It's bass like the fish not base smh
I certainly hope that you’re trolling
is bass exe way stronger then megaman exe ?
No i guess
MixMasterLuxson In canon yes technically. Megaman can beat him but it’s more of a temporary pushing him back more then actually deleting him.
MixMasterLuxson In canon yes technically. Megaman can beat him but it’s more of a temporary pushing him back more then actually deleting him.
MegaMan by himself stands no chance against Bass. Even with Dark Power or Beast Out, he would get destroyed. It's because Lan is there, operating MegaMan, watching his back and strategizing that they even stand a chance. And if it weren't for their twin-link and Full Synchro, I think they would still lose. If you think about it, Lan and MegaMan have never fought Bass before their first Full Synchro against the Life Virus. Had Wily brought Bass in during the Life Virus incident, he may have succeeded.
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Bass.Exe. dat face tho
Is Bass.EXE Genderless
Ninja no he is male always have been
gaming god looks genderless i know I'm a perv
Ninja yeah he does look a bit genderless but whenever bass is in a game he is always a guy
gaming god kk
@@Ninja-xt8cb no he doesn’t look “genderless” one bit, that’s not even a thing.