Amazing to see that the people this items belong to finally get a say in their fate, i hope they allow it to be shown to many people but it’s up to them. Warm greetings from the Netherlands🇳🇱.
I believe this a very good program that should be adopted in many more institutions. It is truly a shameful wrong done to so many cultures of the world but is a way to acknowledge the wrong. It is not just the actual artifact but also any documentation of it. The museum also provides advice on preservation methods that can help to preserve them. I do realize that the advice is just that and the proper display or preservation is the tribes choice. There are cultural traditions that determine the way that any artifacts are dealt with.
This repatriation is a powerful step toward justice and cultural respect. Simon’s outfit belongs with the Tohono O’odham Nation, where it carries meaning, history, and identity. Real history, grounded in reality, is about honoring heritage, not preserving colonial collections.
Though a lot of the people who work with collections like this preserve the pieces very well and aren't colonists as you may think of but actually POC. It's not an absolute that every piece should be repatriated as a Mexican woman of mixed heritage myself, I think a lot of these pieces are very good resources for BIPOC children at large to experience when they go to museums if they aren't a part of that specific tribe or are disconnected from their heritage.
@@MinervaAlvarez-dx3jc Well, the issue is that many of these museums procured these artifacts through shady means. They may have bought them from someone who stole the artifacts. The display of these artifacts was not negotiated with the native groups involved, therefore it is not ethical. There are many museums today that *have* made these negotiations with native groups. Many native groups are happy to display their culture and heritage for others to see. They just want some self-determination when it comes to how and when they want to be represented.
@@MinervaAlvarez-dx3jc "People of color" & all the other terms like it are the rebranded terms of the old racist term "Colored". They're racist terms masqueraded as progressive/non-racist terms.
Wonderful. I studied southwest archaeology for a while and have a lifelong passion for it. Recently, I went to an estate sale in Southern California, where the deceased had a number of Native American artifacts. I love pottery and basketry, but I could not bring any of them home because it felt wrong. I did not know the best course of action in that moment, but I would love some honest Helpful 0:56 suggestions as I go to a lot of estate sale…. Is there some sort of system set up for artifacts coming from personal collections that have no Will to someone else? Like I wish I could’ve just scooped up all that stuff and sent it to the right tribal council, so that they could get it to its proper home, but I have no idea what that process would look like. Any useful insight or applicable advice anyone?
If more people thought like you, the different tribes would have so much more of their culture and history to share with the rising generations. Even if you can't or don't purchase an item from a sale, if you photograph it well and document as much as you can discover about the item, it would likely help. Then the tribal councils would have information that they can pursue. If nothing else it would be documentation of artifacts from their people. 💜Keep up the good work!✊
I am a former long-term Tucson resident who has been on the Tohono O'odam reservation, and hiked some remote, outstandingly beautiful areas there. I appreciate very much this brief video informing me of the repatriation of these precious cultural materials. The basic needs of this tribe are very many. I wish a philanthropist would come forward with the funding to enable the tribe to provide the basic needs of their community in an insightful and long-lasting manner. Without adequate financial resources, this cannot be achieved.
Awesome. There is no reason why EVERY cultural item can’t be returned to its original community. Museums can replace the item with a copy if they really want it shown in their display case. Theft is theft.
I took my nephew when he came to visit from Europe to the museum of natural history, and he was offended by the inclusion of native cultural material in their displays. He said there is nothing "natural" about culture, it is fully developed by people and therefore does not belong with fossils and minerals!
I'm native. American. However he bought the items. They knew he would display the items. Why do they need to be given back? The white man's book and journals is the only way we know our hitsoty. Why are we mad? We were educating the white man. And they recorded our native history. Why give them back? They are educating people. They will be kept on a substandard reservation muse and will decay. Point Blank. Yes it's wrong but true.... Dang.
Carl Lumholtz saved those cultural items, insignificant, though they are. If he hadn’t collected, preserved, and donated them, they would not exist today. We should strive to keep things in context, and grounded in reality. Build a statue in Carl’s honor. The “Simon” part could be a myth. What is the evidence of “Simon’s” existence?
Why build statues for thieves? Carl Lumholtz didn’t “save” or "preserve" or "donate" anything. He took cultural items that were never his to take in the first place, and then sold them for money. Lumholtz’s actions are part of a long, shameful history of colonial looting, where Indigenous communities were stripped of their cultural heritage by so-called "explorers" who had no right to it. These objects belong in the hands of the Tohono O’odham, where they hold actual cultural and spiritual meaning-something you clearly are unable to comprehend. And as for “Simon,” you demand proof of a figure central to Indigenous oral tradition, but you’ll blindly glorify a colonialist thief? Your malice is only outdone by your stupidity.
Carl Lumholtz didn't "save" anything. He took cultural items that never belonged to him. Repatriation is about restoring dignity and agency to those whose history was stolen, not about glorifying the collectors who acted as colonizers. The reality is these items always belonged to the Tohono O'odham Nation, and the proper context is their rightful ownership. No statue is owed for theft, and dismissing the stories of Indigenous people as "myth" reveals ignorance, not insight. Respect the truth, not a revisionist fantasy.
Why build a statue for a thief? Carl Lumholtz didn’t “save” or "preserve" or "donate" anything. He took cultural items that were never his to take in the first place, then sold them for money. And as for “Simon,” you demand proof of a figure central to Indigenous oral tradition, but you’ll blindly glorify a thief? Your dishonesty is only outdone by your ignorance.
@@AnnaLee-kd6eq Do you have any proof that "He took cultural items"? How do you know, since he talked with these people, that they didn't give these items to him? You make it sound like he sneaked in and stole these items. Maybe he even paid someone for them - any proof he didn't?
Insignificant? You are so out of touch. There is nothing Insignificant about any item taken in the course of genocide, when their very culture was being erased. The significance is lost on you...
I have a friend who is Tohono O’odham. Glad to see their culture given agency over these artifacts.
Amazing to see that the people this items belong to finally get a say in their fate, i hope they allow it to be shown to many people but it’s up to them. Warm greetings from the Netherlands🇳🇱.
I believe this a very good program that should be adopted in many more institutions. It is truly a shameful wrong done to so many cultures of the world but is a way to acknowledge the wrong.
It is not just the actual artifact but also any documentation of it. The museum also provides advice on preservation methods that can help to preserve them. I do realize that the advice is just that and the proper display or preservation is the tribes choice. There are cultural traditions that determine the way that any artifacts are dealt with.
I hope the items go on display at their home so people can still enjoy them with better context.
It’s wonderful to see these sacred items being taken home to teach the younger generations.
This is wonderful!
Turtle Island needs these ceremonies to begin to heal again ❤ Pray for the repatriation of all Sacred items back to their tribes and Nations.
This repatriation is a powerful step toward justice and cultural respect. Simon’s outfit belongs with the Tohono O’odham Nation, where it carries meaning, history, and identity. Real history, grounded in reality, is about honoring heritage, not preserving colonial collections.
Though a lot of the people who work with collections like this preserve the pieces very well and aren't colonists as you may think of but actually POC. It's not an absolute that every piece should be repatriated as a Mexican woman of mixed heritage myself, I think a lot of these pieces are very good resources for BIPOC children at large to experience when they go to museums if they aren't a part of that specific tribe or are disconnected from their heritage.
@@MinervaAlvarez-dx3jc
Well, the issue is that many of these museums procured these artifacts through shady means. They may have bought them from someone who stole the artifacts. The display of these artifacts was not negotiated with the native groups involved, therefore it is not ethical.
There are many museums today that *have* made these negotiations with native groups. Many native groups are happy to display their culture and heritage for others to see. They just want some self-determination when it comes to how and when they want to be represented.
@@MinervaAlvarez-dx3jc "People of color" & all the other terms like it are the rebranded terms of the old racist term "Colored". They're racist terms masqueraded as progressive/non-racist terms.
Wonderful. I studied southwest archaeology for a while and have a lifelong passion for it. Recently, I went to an estate sale in Southern California, where the deceased had a number of Native American artifacts. I love pottery and basketry, but I could not bring any of them home because it felt wrong. I did not know the best course of action in that moment, but I would love some honest Helpful 0:56 suggestions as I go to a lot of estate sale…. Is there some sort of system set up for artifacts coming from personal collections that have no Will to someone else? Like I wish I could’ve just scooped up all that stuff and sent it to the right tribal council, so that they could get it to its proper home, but I have no idea what that process would look like. Any useful insight or applicable advice anyone?
Inform the local council that these things need looking into, they have better knowledge to acquire and/or distribute the artifacts. Thank you.
If more people thought like you, the different tribes would have so much more of their culture and history to share with the rising generations.
Even if you can't or don't purchase an item from a sale, if you photograph it well and document as much as you can discover about the item, it would likely help. Then the tribal councils would have information that they can pursue. If nothing else it would be documentation of artifacts from their people.
💜Keep up the good work!✊
holly molly!! very cool.
I am a former long-term Tucson resident who has been on the Tohono O'odam reservation, and hiked some remote, outstandingly beautiful areas there. I appreciate very much this brief video informing me of the repatriation of these precious cultural materials. The basic needs of this tribe are very many. I wish a philanthropist would come forward with the funding to enable the tribe to provide the basic needs of their community in an insightful and long-lasting manner. Without adequate financial resources, this cannot be achieved.
I'm with you on this. Not just for this tribe, but others. We owe it to them to find ways to give as much of their cultural items back as possible.
This is a good start.
Hi I am so happy that regalia was returned to you and I understand kayenkeha besides American English speaking thanks again and good luck 🤞
Awesome. There is no reason why EVERY cultural item can’t be returned to its original community. Museums can replace the item with a copy if they really want it shown in their display case. Theft is theft.
✊🏾
I took my nephew when he came to visit from Europe to the museum of natural history, and he was offended by the inclusion of native cultural material in their displays.
He said there is nothing "natural" about culture, it is fully developed by people and therefore does not belong with fossils and minerals!
Give it all back ,cough Smithsonian.
Thank you. They harbor the true wealth of the Sovereign Nations.
Not if they're just going to burn it, to "set it free". I've seen that. Destroying history.
1M❤
I'm native. American. However he bought the items. They knew he would display the items. Why do they need to be given back? The white man's book and journals is the only way we know our hitsoty. Why are we mad? We were educating the white man. And they recorded our native history. Why give them back? They are educating people. They will be kept on a substandard reservation muse and will decay. Point Blank. Yes it's wrong but true.... Dang.
What are they going to do with it? They don’t have any way to preserve it. It will be lost to history.
Carl Lumholtz saved those cultural items, insignificant, though they are. If he hadn’t collected, preserved, and donated them, they would not exist today. We should strive to keep things in context, and grounded in reality. Build a statue in Carl’s honor. The “Simon” part could be a myth. What is the evidence of “Simon’s” existence?
Why build statues for thieves? Carl Lumholtz didn’t “save” or "preserve" or "donate" anything. He took cultural items that were never his to take in the first place, and then sold them for money.
Lumholtz’s actions are part of a long, shameful history of colonial looting, where Indigenous communities were stripped of their cultural heritage by so-called "explorers" who had no right to it. These objects belong in the hands of the Tohono O’odham, where they hold actual cultural and spiritual meaning-something you clearly are unable to comprehend.
And as for “Simon,” you demand proof of a figure central to Indigenous oral tradition, but you’ll blindly glorify a colonialist thief? Your malice is only outdone by your stupidity.
Carl Lumholtz didn't "save" anything. He took cultural items that never belonged to him. Repatriation is about restoring dignity and agency to those whose history was stolen, not about glorifying the collectors who acted as colonizers. The reality is these items always belonged to the Tohono O'odham Nation, and the proper context is their rightful ownership. No statue is owed for theft, and dismissing the stories of Indigenous people as "myth" reveals ignorance, not insight. Respect the truth, not a revisionist fantasy.
Why build a statue for a thief? Carl Lumholtz didn’t “save” or "preserve" or "donate" anything. He took cultural items that were never his to take in the first place, then sold them for money. And as for “Simon,” you demand proof of a figure central to Indigenous oral tradition, but you’ll blindly glorify a thief? Your dishonesty is only outdone by your ignorance.
@@AnnaLee-kd6eq Do you have any proof that "He took cultural items"? How do you know, since he talked with these people, that they didn't give these items to him? You make it sound like he sneaked in and stole these items. Maybe he even paid someone for them - any proof he didn't?
Insignificant? You are so out of touch. There is nothing Insignificant about any item taken in the course of genocide, when their very culture was being erased. The significance is lost on you...
Does anyone wanna tell 'em?
Tell em what?