454HP BMW M4 CS Acceleration Review | Not for the Faint of Heart
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- The M4 CS is a limited production special edition car that sits between the M4 and the M4 GTS, but is it worth the 100K price tag? The resident race car driver takes the 2019 M4 CS for a performance test while Dan gives a driving commentary.
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Do you guys think the M4CS is worth the price? If not, then what are some other cars under $100K that you think can out perform this car?
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Stage 2 Kia Stinger GTS 😂😂
Maybe not but it will always be my all time favorite car along with the Nissan GT-R and McLaren P1.
RS3/TTRS
Corvette C7 Z06
Corvette C8
Nissan GT-R
Camaro ZL1 6th gen
Tesla M3 Performance
Track Day no way
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Naw algorithm don’t lie
Heavily underrated channel.
It is an expensive car. It becomes less expensive if you love BMW and can afford it.
I love mine. While yes, its expensive, I have owned several M cars. 3 M4s, X5M (F85), and now this M4CS. Some of the cost comes from all the carbon fiber and the tail lights. Tails are 10 grand, the hood is 6 grand, the front lip is 1900, etc. I miss the luxury comforts of BMW such as dual zone air, an armrest, heck even blind spot monitoring, but when you tell this car to go.......its goes. It is effortless. It's just fun to drive. For the price point, it is a great car. Didn't want a Vette or Camero. I didn't want a Mustang. No interest in anything from Alfa or Maserati. I like the C63s, but chose to stay with BMW.
Fully agree. Thanks 👍🏼
Got a manual m4, love it cs is a dream along with the gts
I’ve got one of these in San Marino blue, love it👌
This car is faster on the track than AMG GT with 467 and 476 hp
Rather just save the money and get a regular m4. With an exhaust, a vf engineering tune, and some after market wheels and lip. With money left over.
Ashish Patel pretty much what I did! Hahahah. then I switched to CaryTheLabelGuy E85 setup. (:
M4Racing hopefully you did your crankhub too
primo sparazza 2018 and up models have very little reported crank hub failures. As long as you stay in your torque range and don’t do gigs and hold out your 1st gear, you’ll never have the crank hub go bad. I’m at 52,000 miles and having been pushing 600 plus hp for a couple years now.
A modified M4 and a CS are very different cars.
Without a track, reviewing this car and saying it isn’t worth it is kind of pointless. That being said no one pays anywhere close to 100k for this car.
The younger me would've been tempted by the M4 CS, but now I'm satisfied with an M340i for daily use. Of course the M4 has more ultimate performance, but if I was buying a track car I would get something with less weight and more engagement.
I came in for the M4 review. Subscribed for the atmospheric cinematics and content free disenchanted of credulity. You’re different, keep it up.
I love the m4 but with a bit bigger rear tires I think it would put down better times. But that is the real world testing
Evan Sloope maybe if the track width was a little further apart we’d see some improvements to all aspects of the car
Indeed, 295 in the back really helps!
@@JiuJitsuM4 Ive been looking at increasing sizes on my M4 comp. Currently got the OEM 265 front and 285 rears, do you have experience with using wider than OEM? If so, how wide did you go for front and rears?
Also anything you noticed to the feel of the car and turning? Improved? Stayed the same? Worse?
I don’t think it’s worth the $100k, and in reality many sell (read: lease) for 15 - 20% off that mark. But at the end of the day, this will be the M4 to have from this generation.
Would love to see how it does against the Giulia in a head to head. Those two seem like really close competitors on the fast list. BTW the scene at 5:35 slayed me.
It would have to be against the new Giulia Quadrifoglio GTA
You need to drive one with a bootmod3 stage 2 on 93 octane or a full E85. The car on stock turbos is capable of 10.5-10.8 @ 133-135 in the quarter mile on full E85. 10.9 @ 126-127 on 93 octane. The M4 is capable of keeping up with a Porsche 911 and is a direct competitor. There's video of it on the nurburgring and other tracks proving this. Also a tune for the M4 is only $600 dollars and $100 for additional tunes through bootmod3. The price is justified in the capabilities of what the M4 can do as in true potential. Just my 2 cents!
this is why i love my m4. low price low insurance usable interior and after just a tune you get gts horse power and torque number
Not for the faint hearted!😂😂😂😂
Now I’ve changed my nappy after laughing so hard at your title…..
MyM4CS is running 600bhp, 700 newton metres of torque….. I want more!!
I agree with almost everything you said. M4CS is a great idea (more focused track version of the M4 but not as hardcore as the GTS), but they got the price all wrong. Only diebhard fans would pay the amount of money and from what i've read online, there aren't enough diehard fans so they're practically giving it away at normal M4 prices.
Yup agreed.
Yup it's literally a rip-off for this price when there's the Giulia Quadrifoglio, which spanks it in nearly every way. Hell it's almost as good a handler as the GTS.
@@thomasferrarojr.9772 The Alfas are trash. Friend got one and ended up being a lemon.
@@ashishpatel350 😂 Ok. Guess I'll keep loving mine. No one agrees with you when they drive it.
@@thomasferrarojr.9772 Here in the states it seems alfa is leaving and shutting down.
Irony is it looks good but people would still rather have an m3 or an amg.
Great vids as always... You guys put out great work, I think its just overpriced vs its performance. You could do several other options like the Alfa, GT350R, M2 and some others for a better bang for the buck.
Your video is amazing...!!!
good stuff man, I'll have my Type R racer and S2000 ready in the next couple of months for you to borrow. When I get my C8 you're welcome to come borrow it as well, your cinematic filming and editing skills are unmatched, I can't match it for my channel.
Thanks man! That sounds awesome. So you’re sticking it out with the C8 I assume? And yes, we’ve been talking about this collab for a while and we should definitely try to get it in this year. Hopefully tracks open up as well soon.
Jeez and we thought Nissan was smoking crack when they wanted $150G's for the Nismo.
AllWheelBoost lmao true
Lol, Nissan got even more outrageous because they upped the price to 175k, and then now 210k. It's no longer 150k anymore.
check your facts, the M4 CS is not "limited production". You might mistake them for the GTS or the M3 CS, which were.
They built around 4000-4500 of them and already in 2018, you could have one for 25-30% discount, new.
If you want a track car, get the used M4 GTS as you can get them anywhere between 70-80k. They come standard with a wing, carbon ceramics, kw club sport, etc.
Great take! BMW is really starting to fall behind, that CS for 100k is nuts; a '17 M3/4 with 20k would do the trick. Although this is probably the last good looking M car we'll see for a while, new M2 looks like 30k Toyota 86 and god have mercy on the new M3/4. They may have to steal some Audi executives to help fix their life.
Did you have the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires? Make a difference.
probably overpriced a bit but as someone who has owned both the regular M3 and the M3 CS, I can tell you the CS is head and shoulders above the normal one. all the little tweaks add up to make a huge difference. still, the alfa quad is probably the best car in the segment if only for the reliability issues.... good review but the DCT is actually still on point imo. faster or as fast as a 2020 R8s, which is similar to PDK. (PDK and Ferraris trans still prob the standard tho but this is close.)
You have to test drive the M3 or M4 with Pure Turbos installed. Stock ones feel so numb in comparison.
I’m sure it’s gonna be fast as hell. I got walked by one in my C7Z06 once.
Whats the point?
450 is enough for the track and the road. You can have pure turbos but if you have traction on you end up with just 400 back where you came from
Damian I make 640 WHP with no issues.
@@JiuJitsuM4 I bet no issues but def can't use it all, traction on half of that hp disappears unless you drive with tc off
I have a M4 CS picked it up used with 4000 miles from BMW..... price?......................57000 pounds. A bargain if you ask me. In Europe straight line speed is irrelevant. This car down a B road in the Scottish highlands is a complete weapon system. i would take this over my old M4C any day.
Where's the track action?
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id buy the M4 just because i like the body style of the M4 and that it looks aggressive
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The car is overpriced but this channel is underrated
I love your videos. Short enough to be easily enjoyable, long enough to be pretty informative
Keep it up
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$100K is peanuts for M4 CS. In my country it costs at least €150K.
In America that isn’t peanuts. Rather get a used Audi R8 with that money
@@audi_steve8363 for a slower older car? V8 isn't that fast, and you're not getting a V10 for under 100k that isn't like 5 or six years old.
crzyboi127 when did I say under 100k?? I found a 2017 Audi R8 5.2 v10 for 120k I’ve also found some around 90k range
@@audi_steve8363 you said for "that money" the cost of this car, you'd get a R8. An R8 V8 doesn't outperform the m4cs. A V10 does easily but it's not the same money at this time. So whatever R8 V10 you found for 90k, it is very old, and at that point should be compared to models of similar age and cost. Now if you just want an R8, then that's cool. The M4 was never meant to compete with a R8.
crzyboi127 the R8 around 90k were not that old at all. Go on CarGurus you can find plenty V10 for around that price.
1/4 mile :11.8sec
My favorites channel. Great review!
Very nice video. It helps with deciding on if I want to purchase. For the price, I am going to pass this one by. Thanks
Very nice video and content. Keep up the good work👍
Great video as always the m4 / m3 is a brilliant car personally i think the cs model is only useful if u track the car alot other then that it's a waste of money better to buy a normal m4/m3 and tune it
Fantastic video! New episodes every Thursday? Ohhhh shit!!
Very cool car.
What does it mean for 'over responsive' throttle?
The turbos aren't well calibrated and it has too much unpredictable boost as the rev needle climbs?
Or is it something else???
Montro-City the throttle is too sensitive. You press it gently and the car will jump, the front end will want to take off, and that isn’t what you want on the track
@Montro-City The boost kicks in unpredictably and the curve is a bit aggressive. The throttle itself is also pretty sensitive. Good in some situations, bad in others.
Track Day that’s interesting. My dads Mercedes is the same way
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M4CS looks likes a fun car, but yes you're right, just an M4 and at 110K which is what I presumed this car would be priced with the CCB options, you're looking at used Gallardo or McLaren territory. And even though those are older, you feel a little different driving something like that, than what is sort of an entry model BMW with crazy track mods.
Great video as always.
awesome work as always!
Your channel is so underrated! What a beauty
Not overpriced just jealous people that can’t afford it lol
Jeff L id say 90k is good for this. 100k is a bit steep for me even if I could afford ot
100k for a M4 when you can pick up a 15 m4 for like 30k lolllll
primo sparazza well right now they usually run for around $40k is what I’ve seen but yeah, not much improvement has been made in 6 years lol
Bullshit. I can afford it. Not worth it. Get a used 911.
Thomas Ferraro Jr. my feelings exactly or a ZL1
Nice video.. great shots at Princeton airport!
I'm a certified BMW fan, owned many of them.
I think you can get a good deal on the M4 CS here in England, which makes it better value, but it's still a very expensive car for what it is.
I do really like it, but the performance is not quite as amazing as you'd expect.
Crazy really, as other BMW models are absolute bargain performance. I have an M140i, which although is a cheap 1 series in build quality, performance is great, and with a cheap remap mine does 0-60 in around 4 seconds flat.
The performance difference between mine, and this M4 CS, does not justify the price difference.
But the CS should hold its value a lot better even compared to the Competition for example. So come selling time, it should be better
@@supaahflyy Oh I agree.
Also, an M2 will destroy my wobbly M140i around corners, unless I spent £4000 on suspension modifications.
I have seen some high mileage M2 for £25,000, but still, I think my little M140i is a bargain for £20,000 : it only had 14,000 miles on when I bought it.
I like how honest you are in these videos you never sugarcoat it🔥🔥
ive seen multiple vids with 0-60 4.0 seconds and 100-200km 8.6 seconds ?!
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Insanely underrated channel.
I can’t get enough of these videos...QUALITY.
Boi, which tires you had on the M4 CS?
To everyone here who has not driven it:
Go for it and decide on you own, instead of waching a noob commenting on a car he was'nt even able to drive on a track...
Well hello there black stig. I see the poster made a cameo again. Lots of pictures on the wall
I like the white. Reminds me of my dads 428i ):
I still prefer the M4 GTS over any M4. It was so perfect
Oh yes stig drifting this is insane. I like the roof mounted camera you did
It’s a great looking car for sure. Glad this thing is so quick. And yeah being twitchy is something mercedes does in the E400, my dads is very sensitive. Too sensitive
Airstrip yay
I like the way the exhaust sounds. Oh man that launch was rough lol
This is the last bmw with an E brake btw. Rip
Second launch was better but still not there. She’s fast jeez
I can’t wait for the 60-130 times
I hope you can get on a track eventually
10.8 60-130 is very good
Glad the brakes bite. $8,000 for the brakes is a no for me. Should definitely come standard
I think my passat will be able to 60 foot this car lol
Not worth $100,000 I feel that. I’d never spend that on this car honestly.
Nice drift at the end lmao
Nice short video. Glad you were able to get a hold of this car, I have a feeling it’s been on your list for a while now
Yup, your poster is hung up in his shed where he gets locked away at night lol. The M4 GTS is hardcore man. But it’s even more expensive than the M4CS. I don’t mind a sensitive throttle but this was even a little much for me. It just kept you on your toes all the time.
Airstrips don’t make for the best launches, but at least they are long AF so we can do the full ½ mile test.
Yeah 10.80 was faster than I expected especially reading about stock F80/F82 doing mid 11s.
The M4 is a cool car in general and I feel like this platform was definitely something I should have some time with because it’s practically the benchmark for this segment.
Dan Wang I’m glad you enjoyed it man. It looks like it has more potential with the aftermarket too. Not a bad car
A refreshing change from in cabin reviews.. well done sir
Every shot just beautiful. Elevating the YT game to the next level. Fuqn DOPE!
Another great video! Can you do a new Rs5 review like this one? I agree $100k for this M4 is insane but the value will hold in future for limited production. I can only imagine what the next gen M4 or even 4 series is going to bring!
Sounds too much like Dean Winters - All State Insurance commercials
Crazy, you can buy a M4 for $30k with less than 70k miles
Who tf wants a M with 70K even 50K miles. You know damn well those miles are harsh miles unless the owner was a Doc. Other than that goodluck
not a CS and at the end of the day, everyone knows these germans don't hold value. Its also different when you buy a used 5 year old car, and a brand new one. I can buy a Rolls Royce for 100k. Most cars are going to depreciate.
love your channel and content. Keep up the good work!
can you test either a 2018-2019 or 2020 M550i?
Thanks! I will try, I’d like to do the 2020 because it has the updated N63R engine with the 523HP. Hard to find since they’re still pretty new.
Only good thing about the CS are the taillights and hood. Very expensive in the aftermarket.
Lol not the best thing to say at the beginning of a video. Made me stop watching right away
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Amazing video ❤
hi bro briliant work
No. It doesn't worth it.
Imagine what the upcoming C8 Z06 would do to this. It would annihilate it.
Why comparing new car to old one wait for G80 m3
@@nassermohd2317 It doesn't matter what you bring to the party.
Normal C8
C7 Z06
All of of them would vomit on the M4 CS.
So yeah it's not worth it.
Don't be sure normal c7 and normal m4 was very close at track the new G80 will destroy the c8 with s58 engine
Sounds like the guys who cut the muffler off of a V6 charger
It certainly doesn’t look 100k
Trash
Stig Reborn
Love the sat nav on the run way!
Do the m4 gts im a big bmw fan
Looks like the original software P3D still wrecks this car even though it's double the price.
Is the exhaust stock?
@DylValentine Car is bone stock as far as I know.
So, I'm about to lease a M4 CS 2020 for about 950/Month. 107 MSRP. Any alternative options that might be better?
@DanielZar That’s not bad, I hear BMW is leasing them out quite well. If you’re leasing then it’s probably a different story. I’d try to get it under 900 though, as that’s what I think the owner of the one in this video got his for.
@@SpeedLabsMotorEnvy I ended up getting it, love it so much!
Nooooo....my dude said it's just a M4 😥😥
Waste of money.
Do you know they lease for dirt cheap
Cars are too cheap in US lol.
0-60 in 4.74? That's not even close to what BMW claims
Sean Kemp Ya, any M3/M4 needs to use LC and hit earlier shift points, makes a big difference. Instead of redlining each gear. Higher revs work better for track not drags.
Did you completely missed it at 4:07?? He said it was almost a second off.
They are not drivers or true car guys, they heat soak the shit out of these cars before driving them too, and then test them with cold tires...its not a fair test.
I remember wantinh one of these (and even the GTS mode)l but decided on the F90 M5. Nice cars but definitely overpriced (as is the M8). Above $135-150k, I'm leaning Porsche 911. 👌
Dct showing its age?? Seriously lol. It's better than the zf on g8x. Aging compared to what?? Pdk? Lol
Can't wait to get an M4. I'm moding my 435! I've posted a few videos
Great content! Sub’d
let's face it, this isn't a daily. if so why the hell would anyone buy this over a ZL1?
Just seems rather....uneventful, like accelerating in a virtual version of the car.
Under 100k I would take a C7Z06 or Viper GTS with TA setup. For 4 seaters give me the RS5 its a better all around car and as a track car the CTS-V is great fun.
Agreed, if we're talking same segment, there are a ton of coupes that I would buy over this car. My first pick would 100% be the C63S AMG Coupe. But idk, because I haven't driven one yet. Hopefully soon.
@@DanWangFilms exactly the CS is fast but I would choose lots of other before that car.
Bimmer Hypebeast always argue me when a say "theres no M4 worth 100K"... glad someone agrees with me
Hell for the money they’re asking for a BMW M4 CS I’d take a Camaro ZL1 1LE twice the car for almost half the price I could justify the asking price of the CS I think it’s beautiful and I’ve driven one and loved it but not worth the price tag
Is it worth 75k
Dct starting to show it's age?? What are you talking about? The dct is oerfect. What are you comparing it to a Koenigsegg? or a la Ferrari?. The video is ok just stop trying to be Chris Harris, Or at least try to act like you know what your talking about!!
They dont have a clue what they are talking about most times and cant match the numbers put down by people driving the same stock cars. - they are not cars guys, they just like cool cars but know zero about how they work.