Here's Why I Bought a BMW M4 Instead of an M2
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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2020
- I got asked this question a lot when I first debuted my new car for the channel and I think the natural expectation was that I was going to get an M2 coming from the 2 series platform already. However, that wasn't the case and I hope my justification makes sense to most of my viewers. Thanks for watching and make sure to leave a like and subscribe for more!
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Speaking as an M2C owner, if i were buying used, i'd go M4 over OG M2. They're both awesome cars, but the S55 is a beast and it doesn't hurt to have a nicer interior with more goodies. The longer wheelbase will make it more comfortable as well since it looks like you plan on dailying that thing. Congrats on the ride, I enjoy watching your channel!
Felix i agree with you as well! funny thing though is that this car isn’t a daily for me and i’m going to turn it into a track tool 😂 It’s a stripper spec so it has no factory options also haha
Totally agreed, from a fellow M2C owner! XD
Felix M6 is the best though... especially the ones in the mid 2000s
This video and this comment answered my question. I’m selling my Lexus IS and Indian Scout motorbike with the hope to buy a M4 2016 for around $75k AUD.
I would take a manual og m2 instead. The n55 especially the one that comes in the m2 can't be beat on sound. Also the refinement, or lack-thereof gives it more personality. I think it's a great little car, and love it with a manual. I'd also get a m4 dct if I had unlimited pockets but that's like 10-20k more lol. m4 would be a great daily, but the m2 has a better driving experience on fun roads. I'd take an m4 over an m2 comp. But I'd take m2 cs over any m3/4. E92 is great though.
Congratulations! I have grown up watching you and seeing you upgrade vehicles! And gives us the the most absolute amount of knowledge on your ride!
Dream Car Driving thank you so much my guy! i really do appreciate the kind words 😊
Awesome bro I remember I started watching you years ago when you had the 335i it's awesome to see you finally get the car you been dreaming of congratulations
Great vid bro, you’re a real natural with these YT vids. Great car choice also, I remember when you were really excited with your E92, great car progression! I myself have a E90 saloon 325i SE with the 3 litre engine in manual. Love to you from the UK 👍
MAC thank you so much my guy! cheers to you, im looking forward to bringing more content asap for you all
congratulations man been lurking for a year or two now i reckon glad to see u get in an M
Good informative videos sold my 435i GC today, picking up my M4 f82 tomorrow! Keep the content coming 👍🏼
as an M2 owner i definitely agree with the weight. I own a ‘16 N55 M2, and even for the non comp version it is a bulky car, although id say BMW does a good job of masking its hefty curb weight
14nightwolves Yea when i drove the M2 i agree it didnt feel as heavy as it is on paper!
M2 N55 sounds amazing 😫😫😫😫😫😫
@@tsholohelojrkeagaelejwe7601 Especially with the M Perf Exhaust (which my previous owner was gracious enough to have purchased)
Omar totally agree with what you have said your ///M4 is stunning can’t wait to see where you take the build stay safe Bro 🇬🇧
Keep up the videos I love it! Finally someone I can watch.
Compsport M3 thanks man!! plenty more content to come soon
Congrats man!!!!! Although I’m Gonna mis the m235i vids
🙌🏾 exactly what I’m looking for. Graduating with my bachelors next year
congratulations man!!
Nice video! I recent bought an M2 this past November. I was a die hard M4 fan and test drove that too, but I fell for the M2 driving experience sooooooo much fun on the curves! Both are awesome cars!
@@mrmerc9159 Probably me, they just sound so nice! End of the day I knew I wouldn't be happy if I didn't get an M lol
@@bm_wuratli6883 What do you mean by core?
I agree with u 100% bro M4 is the best looking M car in my opinion and im so glad to see u picked one up. Definitely my dream car and im excited for all the M4 content coming soon.
Diego Santos thanks bro, glad to hear that! welcome to the fam! 🤙🏼
I have MY20 M2C DCT- you can add carbon fiber roof carbon fiber fenders and hood to the car and it significantly reduce his weight. I had the opportunity to purchase a heritage edition M4 and a fully loaded M4 with executive package. After test driving back to back on the dealership parking lot the M2 competition just felt that much better I love the stubbornness about it and I feel like the M2 competition will end up becoming more of a classic sports car in the M4.
From an M2 owner, great choice on the M4. Agree with your comments.
I'm planning on upgrading to an F80 M3 Comp soon...
Great video! What about the s55 crank hub issue. Are you planning on doing any upgrade on that?
Good luck. I bought an M2C. Love the S55. I get what your saying as much of an upgrade from the M235. I had that too, and traded up to the M2C. Prices on the M4 are lower right now because of demand on the M2 even with its N55. I agree the S55 is the way to go. With the extra HP upgrade, the M4 will kick its tail. The M2 is heavier than I thought. It does dive in to corners a bit harder. But your Car is gorgeous. Good luck with it.
just subscribed to the Channel always love a Bmw reviewer keep it up man :)
Abd xvrame thank you so much! welcome to the fam 🙏🏼
Good points on your decision, but when you said the phrase “dream car”, that resumed it all up!! Btw, have you done your research on the assist front bumper??
that sleek smirk around the 5:45 mark... that's pure mechanical joy.
😂 very accurate statement!
😳 You are now on an M4.. Damn bro, I was here during your E90 days, progressing to the 235i, now this, congrats man...
thank you bro, this one is a keeper!
Im glad you’re happy with your choice, personally I bought an OG M2 with 4,000 miles and fulled optioned out(except no sunroof), been waiting since 2016 to buy it :)
If the M2 didn’t exist I would have bought an M4 or 1M
Impressive! M4 for a college student is definitely a dream
been a big fan of the vids on the channel recently. i’m trying to get into car youtube and start a modification series myself. was debating between an M2 N55 and an M4 S55 the one thing was I felt like the S55 doesn’t sound as good BUT I have always wanted an M3/M4 and I feel like it would be a great build. was nervous about length on the track but who knows it may be awesome. I still am unsure but would love to talk more about your M4 experience if you have a chance!
i’m looking for a daily that I can build a bit for youtube and have some fun with when I go to the track maybe 2-3 times a year. won’t be able to go much with school
Love the spec you chose. Very rare car. You going to install CBC yourself or have shop do it? Would make great vid doing install.
Thank you! it took me forever to find this spec, im gona have a shop do the hub with the cbc, and i will be filming the whole process
Cries in a Honda Civic :’( Wish I could afford one of these in the future
You will man just keep working hard! :)
Hard work and consistency
No crying needed brother I started in a 300 Honda Civic I upgraded and now I owned two 335i N54 and now the N55 persistence pays off M3 1 day
i dont even have a car and i am watching this lol but i dont any other car before getting this one so i am working hard and saving to afford it soon, if you dreamed it you can get it bro :)
Dont wish, work bro! A wish without a plan is just a dream. Hard work and consistency🦾
Great channel. Good content and personal views.
LunGui YE thanks man! appreciate the feedback!
I absolutely bang-on agree all your points 100% 👍
glad to hear that man, thank you!
Great video👍🏽m4 is life🔥🚙
nonsense neme thanks bro!
I hear ya, it was honestly surprising to find out how heavy my M240i was considering how it feels behind the wheel.
Better see you at the rolls soon bro 👀👀
2020 M4 CS owner here! I started out wanting a M2 Comp for its size but I agree the weight it too much!! I do prefer the size of the M2 and have 0 complaints about my decision.
Hey man the M4 is my dream car man.You should tint the back windows and front ones a little, black out the front grills or a full Chrome Delete and black all the chrome bits out , add rear diffuser, carbon mirror caps and a rear carbon spoiler the M4 will look better than ever
I will say as a recent M2 (OG) buyer the power is unimpressive unless its freezing cold outside. Obviously the car is stock and an intercooler would greatly remedy that. When I first got the car about 1.5 months ago it was 20-35 degrees for a week straight and the car felt like a rocket ship. Since then its been a mix of 35-65+ and in the days were its 45+ the car is underwhelming. With that said, IC / CP / DP / stage 2 soon. That should fix my issue lol
Congrats man! Definitely a tough choice between an M4 and an M2.
am in the same boat...hard to find a '19 M2C so ill probably get an M4 easier to find
Totally understand what you mean about the M2 not being enough of an upgrade from an M235i. I feel the same way about Focus ST to Focus RS which is why I got an M2
Im glad you get where im coming from 😂And I absolutely love the M2 as well, it really is a wonderful car!
Getting mine next week
M4 is better for high speeds and the M2 non-comp handles so well on a short track. i've owned both, and now own an M2. do love the S55. The M4 starting in 2018 does not get a carbon drive shaft. the M4 looks betters in the front, but the M2's ass is so nice! both nice cars either way!!
Been fortunate enough to drive both M2 and M4, multiple examples of both even, like you would definitely pick the M4. The M2 is effectively the same car but with about 5in chopped out of the wheelbase, feels a little bit more nimble although I think the main difference is down to running on narrower tyres. Overall, does feel that little bit more playful, willing to break grip more easily. On the other hand, the M4 has more power in stock form, weighs the same, has more grip and a better overall balance. Also, by _far_ the better looking of the two and has a _significantly_ nicer cabin, seats alone are a big upgrade and there are lots of small details that are just better on the M4. Plus, the M4 can comfortably carry 4 if needed where the M2 back seats are barely usable. Really not impressed with the M2 cabin, doesn't feel nearly special enough for a car that costs this much. M4 is just so much more car for the money.
I dont agree with that m2 back seats are barley useable.. i own 2018 M2 and the back seats are okey for a normal person.
Currently have a estroil blue M235i and now looking for an M4.. watched your vids since I was looking to buy the 2. Did you buy your M4 from BMW, or was it a private sale? Cheapest M4 from BMW in the UK is £31,000 ($43,000) :-(
Did you film the side view shot at 3:29 on De Portola Rd?
I test drove a M4 comp and a M2C back to back... the M2C really hides the weight well, if you didn't know the actual number I would have said the M2C was a couple hundred lbs lighter... the proportions of the M4 made it feel much bigger
I have an M2C, and don't disagree that it would be nice if it was lighter. However, most cars with this much engine and cooling that are between 176 and 190 inches long are still at least as heavy as the M2C. It isn't light, but it isn't actually heavy, either...at least by comparison to other modern cars. That being said, the shorter wheel base is where the size becomes an advantage over the M4 (which I have driven multiple times). The M4's longer wheel base also has its advantages...it is a slightly better highway cruiser. Both are great cars and though I made the opposite choice you did, I can't fault your choice at all. I hope you have endless fun in your new car!
May i ask? Is the heritage edition more expensive and whats their differences? Thanks..
Bro no need for explaining. In my opinion you made the right move. I would have picked the M4 any day. 👍🏼
Good points... At the end of the day, it's your choice
Seeing how low the price is getting I'm considering a 15-17 F80 or an 18 F30 340i. Both have their advantages but I think for maintenance/daily the B58 could be better and for sporty/aggressive feel the F80. Tough choice...
So how do you feel about M3 is it just an M4 with 4 doors?
Ability to have a non all-black interior and adjustable dampers are two other good reasons.
Made perfect sense to me! I'm not a little guy, so I'd pick the M4 as well! The M2 is a pitbull of car, and has the performance advantages as far as track is concerned, but the price is over the top. I know it's a matter of what you want, and since I'd take low price and solid performance when I want, why not get more car? Just my opinion!
couldn't agree more with you, Steven! It just makes sense!
M4 is such a handsome coupe. The upcoming new M3/M4 will not look nowhere near as pretty--I just know it.
You came from the future huh 🤔
interior space wise? is the m2 tooo much smaller than an m4 or not too much difference?
Broooooo chill the fuck out! Congrats homie been watching your channel for a while on your 235i and hadn’t seen a vid in a while and got this 💯💯 can’t wait for the videos to come
😂😂 thanks bro, yea this is my last car for a good while so dont worry
Oh you would love the M2 CS
Where are these selling for mid 30s I’m looking…. Love your vids btw thanks for what you do man
You should paint it/wrap it nardo gray. That would look fantastic! Congrats on the beautiful car man! My dream is to get a f80 m3 🔥👍
thanks brotha! youll get your F80 in no time!
Simply Car Things lol still gotta long way to go
random question but whos n55 m2 was that with the studio rsr sticker? I literally bought the same exact color with that studio rsr sticker from auction & its lowered exactly the same LOL.
Yes the 235i price vs the M2 price is roughly about 15k more or less but if you think about the resale value of the M2C, it will be much better than the m235i. In other words, yes its waay more expensive but it also holds its value better as well....
You would look good in a Porsche my dude! Sick M4 though, makes me want one.
Trevor Capps thanks man! maybe a GT3 in the future if i can afford it 🤣
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Saw those tire marks on the road I can’t help but wonder did you donut your car around neighborhood?
XD XD XD
no i didnt 🤣its a public road so it was most likely someone else hahaha
I agree. That’s why i also choose M4.
Hey @simplycarthings, would you say that your M235i (with FBO and BM3 stage 2) was faster than your M4 as it stands?
Matthew Booker HP wise both will be close. But M235i produces more torque than the M4.
Good choice in the M4! It looks better than that M2 tbh
A supercharged e92 M3 would be nice to see!
Mark A would love to feature one on the channel!
Could you give me any advice on my 328i, I just replaced the thermostat radiator and water pump yet it still tends to overheat anything could help.
Amazing video as always! You should definitely make a video explaining the B58 with the S55. As you may know Supra's are super fast and I've seen it raced an M4 and gapped it pretty well.
X3m comp and x4m comp have the s58 which kicks the s55 into touch , it’s being put in the m2 in 2022 and going to power all m cars
Mohammad Zohaib thanks man! i will do for sure 👌🏼
I’m looking to buy one now and found just the video I was looking for.
Omar, how does it compare to the 335i?
You make a good case, and it sounds like you chose exactly the vehicle you should have. My 2015 GTI PP was recently totaled by a flash flood (in a dealership parking lot...ironically,) so I was hunting for successors for a bit. Went with the OG M2 for the following reasons:
--I like smaller, more nimble cars. The OG has a weight problem, but it has nearly identical dimensions to my GTI. That compactness belies its weight. That excludes the M3/4.
--I wanted more performance than I'd had in the past (GTI, 1999 Miata (which I still have,) and generic commuter cars) with RWD emphasis. That excluded STI/hot hatches.
--As my daily, I wanted reasonable practicality. That excluded (very begrudgingly) the Porsche Caymans. Maybe I'll get a Boxster to replace the Miata one day?
--I didn't see the M2C S55 benefit. "It's a REAL M engine!" But the acceleration is the same as the N55 OG! If the acc is the same, then I'd rather have the lighter weight! I also couldn't afford the newer M2C.
--I didn't want depreciation to destroy me...too badly. That eliminated the M240i. The M2 should hold its value far better. I paid $10k more on the front end, but I'll make up for it, and then some, on the back end; all while owning an actual M car the entire time.
Nice vid Omar, I agree for the value/performance difference, the M4 does seem a very fair decision. Curious though about 3 things...
1) Does the M4 get a Oil Temp gauge?
2) Does it get a Oil dip stick? (does BMW even do these in general these days)
3) Can you open the trunk with a key (or is it at least easier than when your 235i battery died :))?
(If you plan do a 'small things you didn't know about the M4' type vid, thats cool too, I can wait.
Also congrats!
I've been a F82 owner since Sept 2015 (for sale). No oil temp gauge. The car has an elaborate cooling system, actually made for racing. No engine oil dipstick. Need power to open trunk.
TheKumara Thanks man! So YES, the M4 does get a proper oil temp gauge, no dipstick, and no manual keyhole for the trunk. its like that with all f series BMW’s
Just keep in mind, there are proven issues with some early model carbonfibre driveshaft. It can tear apart, and cause some very bad issues - and injuries as well.
You might want to check it out. Also there is an issue with S55 connecting rod bearing - to prevent this to fail and cause your engine to basically blow up, you need to spend around ~10000$ for a shop to do it (basically you need to tear down the entire engine and engine bay and front of the car to do it). This issue will come up especially if you start "racing" or driving hard your car - but even if not, it could still happen (but lower chance).
You can also expect (hopefully not) issues with the Automatic gearbox, if it wasnt maintained well.
Turbos can fail after/around 100-120k kms
To be honest, M4 is a very nice car, but with all the reliability issues it comes, even if its a "bargain" at that price - i would not buy it.
It is cheap because of the maintenance cost the car has. Of course if its not an issue for you price-wise, then its a great car.
Enjoy the car & drive safe :)
I think you made the right choice! Congrats!
congrats man! what made you choose the dual clutch over the 6 speed
thank you! the DCT is much faster and geared toward performance with this car, which is what i was looking for
good point! im jealous
From my experience the m4 drifts better the m2. But the m2 rotates better in tight turns, feels lighter and on its toes. The linear torque from bottom in the s55 helps alot for holding drifts and the longer wheelbase of the m4 I suppose. I love my OG m2 ❤️
Agree. I bought the M4 mainly because of the look. 😂
I am Looking for M4 Under 40k . Which model year do you have ??
It's not that the M2 is heavy. The M4 is just spec'd with light weight components like you mentioned, which makes the car lighter. It is one of the things that makes the M4 more expensive besides the extra 4'' of sheetmetal because in the end, with the s55 in both models, where was the extra money going?
Does the M4 have a DCT? Did you think at all about getting a manual transmission?
It does have a DCT
I agree 100%. I have ‘15 M4, love mine to death.
thats awesome to hear man, how long have you had yours for?
@@SimplyCarThings Almost a year at this point :)
Bro the amount of knowledge you know off the top of your head still is crazy to me
Akito Martin ...True. I have 3 BMW’s including the F80 M3, and on forums pretty regularly. He’s very knowledgeable.
Silverstone II FTW!
fav color all day!
Out of Toronto Canada love your videos can I Run wheel spacer on a BMW X3 f25
BMW X3 you can, just make sure you run a a “hubscentric” spacer. 👍🏽
Ok I will thank bro
Out of curiosity, what are you studying?
gassx77 business administration! 🤙🏼
Simply Car Things ayy good luck bro 👍🏻
@@SimplyCarThings What school?
Way to go bro, if you are still a scholar and can afford that much of a car, you are on the right track, I was here during your E90 days man, you are doing well...
@@lemoneggs5897 don't you think just knowing he is at school doing BA is enough?
2018 OG M2 here. I'm an empty nester so the size is perfect for me. With the sunroof delete, it's about the lightest M model that BMW makes. I admire the M3/M4 models but slightly too big for my use case.
very good point! Yep, i love the M2 myself it's a very fun car to own and drive
Nice m4! You bought this outright or you financed?
Weight might be the same between the two but its distribution is better on the M2, as it's a more compact car. Maybe CoG Is lower on the m4, but I have no data for that.
Great points for sure
as you came from the e92 back in the day i think the m4 looks like a modernized body style of the e92 coupe wheres the m2 looks more like a stubby modernized 2008 1 series.
Agreed, its an evolutionary design of both coupes
M4s are way cheaper than I thought they'd be. Sick car ...e46/e92 m3 for me if i ever get the money😄
Any truth to the M4 steering feeling vague and disconnected compared to the M2? That is what kept me away from the M4.
Where did you find one with for 34k!? Usually at that price they usually have higher mileage like over 70,000 miles.
pre-covid deals were nuts bro haha
what year did you buy??
What year did you buy
Dude, you don’t need to justify your purchase. Sweet ride, enjoy it.
Eddie3074 thanks bro, really appreciate that!
M4’s looks better. M2 looks too cute and chode like. My opinion of course
M Performance “chode” Lol
“chode like” 🤣🤣🤣
cute and chode in the same sentance hahahahaha
Idk at that point just get an M5.
@@cognition26 na m5 is much bigger than the m4, the four series line in general was meant to replace the 3 series coupe but idk what direction they’re taking these days honestly messing w the brand a lil
34.5k, nice man!
thanks man!
Which bmw car has b58 manual . BMW makes it so difficult on website
May i ask how much you pay a month for your car?
Looking at the prices these days, I think a good step up from my 2008 328i would be a 2015-2016 M235. I'm seeing them around $20k. That's a heck of a car around that price range. Then maybe in 2 or 3 years, move up to an M4. Or Tesla who knows lol.
Most definitely man! There is a lot of value to be had in the secondhand market with these cars
There is in ny opinion no comaprison between n55 m2 and m4. If i was picking between m2c and m4 (assuming they were the same price but theyre not) id say id have to go with m4 overall. It has possibility for individual spec while m2 gets the basic bullshit. Also the m2c is nearly the same weight so all you really get is a shortwheel base. If you live on coast of california or anywhere in europe then sure it can be a little more fun. Otherwise a daily driver for most of north america the m4 is def the better option.
here before you hit 1M subs
I appreciate you man, thnx for the kind words 🙌🏼