Phoenix 1600 - Build (Hobbyking/Lanyu/Volantex)
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2016
- G'day All, A new addiction has taken hold and it is called slope soaring! After the jubilation and ulitmate disaster of the Excalibur I knew that I needed a stronger plane for the unforgiving landings on the slope. A couple of people had suggested that the Phoenix 1600 was perfect for it. So, I looked about for a few weeks for a good deal and finally they arrived into Hobbyking's Australian stock for only AU$95.00 + Delivery.
So here is the build and if you like the look of this one, stay tuned for the maiden. Coming up very soon!
I used the 'Tower Pro MG90S' from Banggood - t2m.io/7T1cPJvi
Cheers
Michael
Merci Michael pour cette excellente vidéo. Il y a très peu de vidéos comme la tienne sur le phœnix 1600. Heureusement qu’il y a des gens comme toi . Merci et continus comme ça .
Amicalement
Vous êtes les bienvenus. Je suis content que cette vidéo aide toujours les gens!
Cordialement
Michael
Thanks for the explanation re the servos (rudder vs elevator). Manual for this is awful and as a noob I’ve struggled to work out how this actually fits together, and what to use. You are the only source online that covers this.!
Cheers, I appreciate the feedback. It is great to know the video has helped. Enjoy the Phoenix!
TOP Video Sir, thank you for your good work, very helpfull to see this !!! Greets, Frank
Happy to help! Thanks for your comment.
Great videos Michael... I'm building a P1600 this weekend and will be going over your vids for tips..
Thanks Michael. Glad to have provided a little insight. Fairly straight forward build, but good luck I hope it all goes smoothly
Superb addition Michael. It's the original Raptor as I had the V2. A bit sensitive during flights even after many corrections. Mine had a bad tendency to tip stall easily and fight to save her.
I have only had the maiden flight, but I have only found that it pulls up on throttle, but no tip bad stall tendencies for this one yet. I think my set up was closer to nose heavy, then tail heavy though. More flying needed.
This looks nice. Looking forward to the maiden. :)
Thanks Vas, trying to make a good edit of the maiden now, but always takes too long. Maybe tomorrow night. Cheers Michael
Mike i know this is an old video but maybe next time do two version. One like this one where everything is cut short and not so much in depth. And one original video with full build. Thanks
Good suggestion. I'll certainly consider that if I get back into making UA-cam vids again
on my original phoenix I took the servos out and simply refitted them below the ply to solve the clearance problem
great choice of plane
OH Yeah, I think I recall seeing that now. A little filing did the job too. I'm definitely looking forward to a little more trimming and then getting it down to the beach.
Will be good to see
I was thinking of trying this slope soaring myself. I have the Lanyu 2600 mm glider and I wonder if this would do the job?
Yeah, they are excellent on the slope. I have one, but got the 1600 because I think while I'm still learning it will be a little more forgiving and easier to handle. Check out Andrew Newton ASW28 Sloping ua-cam.com/video/8a8eycOn6KM/v-deo.html and there is a New Zealand guy that has a good ASW28 Sloping vid too - ua-cam.com/video/MxaBfHYnP9c/v-deo.html Cheers Michael
Just wondering how the motor and esc have stood up to the 3s battery,I have a 1600 coming for Christmas. I already have an evo 2600 for which I have 3s 1800 batteries or do you think it’s worth getting the 2s to make things last a bit longer?
Sorry Peter I don't have a lot of insight in to the stock set up. Mine didn't last long, but not because it burnt out, rather I dropped it in the ocean. I put a NTM propdrive in as a replacement but mostly slope soar it so I don't even start the motor usually. But all reports I have seen, the 3s will cook the stock motor and esc. Cheers Michael
Michael Downie thanks. I’ve been on and off over a lot of years but only been really flying for a couple months. Slope has always been my interest. Red Rock near Colac is my local and I have flown at Johanna as well.
I really appreciate all you guys at Geelong sharing your knowledge. Thanks
so the transmitter and battery and motor and stuff all in the box ?
No, it is the plug n fly (pnf) so, need to add (plug in) receiver and your own transmitter plus battery. If you want one with all the gear you need to look for a ready to fly (rtf) version
Great Review...what rates ru flying phoenix on thanks
thanks Gary. I'm running 100% in all surfaces but have 30% expo. I also added a crow mode with adjustment on track right slider and I have camber/reflex on the left slider. The roll rate is the only thing I would like to improve in this plane.
i realise this is from 2016...but i have a question !!! is a 3 amp bec (from the esc ) enough to power 6 servos ???
G'day David. I do still fly this plane a lot at the slope, although I did dunk it in the ocean, so all the electronics had to be replaced.
I have a 30 amp Plush in it now which has a 5v / 2A BEC. So your 3A will be fine.
Cheers Michael
thanks Mike ...
Just wondering what servos you used to replace the stock plastic gears that came with the plane
I have both the 1.6 and 2.6 Phoenix models, building up both planes now. I personally think that it is overkill to just go and replace aileron and flap servos because they are plastic geared. Ailerons and flaps do not get a lot of stress unless they are involved in a crash. I lost a servo in a crash of another plane (NOT the Phoenix), I did replace that servo with a metal geared one, I would say this: if you are going to upgrade to metal geared servos, rudder and elevator go first. Ailerons and flaps will do fine with plastic unless you crash and rebuild anyway. My two cents.
Emax metal gear servos are good, widely available. Just look on your Phoenix servos for the weight, (9 gm ?) , order the metal geared servos the same weight. They are universal mounted.
@@steelydanfan100 I have one of these in the later 1.6M S version (no flaps & with alloy spar mid mounted wing) winging its way to me as I type. I concur re the supplied stock servos. The evidence is in from these VolantexRC PNPs being in the marketplace for a few years now. IMV&E no need to swap the defaults out if using the PhoenixS with the supplied power train and intended flight envelope. They're just not going to be subjected to loads a 3D aerobatic ship or hotliner would if flown within parameters to design purpose. Perhaps if upgrading the power train for significantly higher speeds imposing higher dynamic manoeuvring loads exacerbated if operated roughly? Otherwise, unnecessary overkill. Call me tight, but these days my budget is, and I'd rather divert those funds elsewhere. So mine, intended for seafront slope and park thermal soaring, will be flying with the OOTB supplied servos too.
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Do you mean for the flaps?
Please give me the idea which screws comes where?
G'day. In mine all of the screws were the same size. They are for attaching the control horns. Check out this video at 3:00 . I hope that helps. Cheers Michael
Hello dear all, does someone can help me, I need help to understand what is the differences between Phoenix 1600 V742-6 and V742-7 , please ? Thank you in advance
Hi Fabian, I notice nobody else jumped inhere, so as far as I know the V742-7 is the new version of the Phoenix 1600. The main difference that I can see is the new version do not have flaps like the older V742-6. Cheers Michael
hello Michael, thank you very much for your answer !
Take care and stay safe !!
Nice looking but i can't hear any sound ?
Kersten1966 that is odd. Seems to be ok this end.
This or the Walrus from Hobbyking?
G'day Sem te Vruchte, I don't have any experience with the Walrus, but I have heard/seen good reviews. It might depend on the type of flying you'll be doing. The Phoenix does glide well, but the Walrus will be lighter due to its foam fuselage. But if you want to slope soar, the Phoenix can't be beat in my opinion. The fuselage will send up to the rough landing you will have on the slope. And I'll flies incredibly well in all sorts of wind conditions. Good luck with which ever you choose. Cheers Michael