Brian. These videos on the Phoenix V2 have been incredibly helpful to me. I really appreciate what you and Megan do. I will be building this plane next month.
Starting at 1:23 you showed the control horn back plate and mentioned the bumps and said there was a right way and a wrong way but you never clearly showed the correct way. So, which way do you think is the right way?
Sorry about that. The FLAT is supposed to go FLAT against the foam (regardless of which surface you're dealing with). Some will argue that I'm wrong, but I'd day there will be a far MORE threads exposed beyond the plastic doing it the "other" way... ...that being said, you can really kinda do it either way :)
@@BrianPhillipsRC I'm with you. I don't see how anyone would think it could go the other way. The way it came across to me was that the bumps should be against the foam. I just wanted to know why. I'm always eager to learn new things. Love your videos.
P.S. I've done it both ways, just to experiment, and if the screws were the correct length, that would be a really nice way to do it, but if you want to cut them down to length, it's very tough, since they get hot and melt the plastic :(
Thanks for all your help, especially with the decals. My control horns are different, they did not come with screws and the backing plastic has slots that mate with little arms that come off the back of the control horns that protrude through the control surface. Am I supposed to use glue on these or do they lock into place. TIA.
You can glue on the flat part and then just stick them through. That's what I would do at least. If you feel like they will CLIP together good enough, then you could give it a try...BUT just use care they won't come undone with servo movement.
Hello, awesome video. Always enjoy watching and learning. Radio setup is not yet a strong point for me use set up straight out manual and learned how to use lemons that you use from you. Thanks for your video and time and knowledge. Having fun just RC'n
@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks again, stabilizer or not you have skills at the sticks. That plane looks great and maiden flight should be fine with exception of the minor adjustment or so. Should fly as good as the asw-28 or maybe better? See next time thanks again.
Please do, it's been working well for me for about a decade or so...soon I have to make the very tough decisions to copy it myself. I want to do this setup, only make THREE designated areas... One for metal work, one for wood work, and one for hobby projects....and maybe one for another hobby project, so I can have a more lengthy project going while I work on smaller projects. Hope to share this part of our lives with you all, as it unfolds. We hope to keep your audience as we work through those parts of our new property :)
You're very welcome. Keep in mind lots of stuff has changed since we filmed this, so please do take that into consideration when thinking about doing it yourself because, there's considerably easier ways to accomplish even better results now-a-days. Thanks for watching, and hope when you compare it against current technology, you'll see this pretty clearly We have done a several more modern sail planes, if you're curious...in fact just the other day, we did a sail plane...not to poo-poo this plane, which was awesome, the Radio Setup may be tough to copy, since many of the parts we used aren't even available anymore. www.brianphillipsrc.com/sailplanes
The manual does not mention how to free off the control hinges. What i mean is..... Am i supposed to cut the polystyrene away with a modelling knife on the hinge line? Surely the plastic hinges should hold it. Otherwise they are very stiff
Pinch hinges are sometimes okay, and other times they fail quickly. You have to decide how you want to proceed. It's not hard to cut them free, then install a hinge, but you don't have to do it this way, if you'd rather have pinch hinges. What I mean is that you have the flexibility to do whatever you feel is best.
Airplane. Sailplanes have all sorts of very complex mixing, which is AWESOME, but it's a lot harder for the newbie :) I HAVE done it, and it's pretty cool stuff...but I always end up putting it back so that I can use my precious Lemon-Rx ;)
Desperate for guidance on flap & elevator compensation setting for my new Phoenix 2400. Just regular independent flaps on my 3-way D switch. Flap % (and most importantly elevator compensation %) as my maiden flight was a maiden crash. So erratic and uncontrollable that I didn't have any time to learn by trial and error. Help appreciated!
Hey Brian do you have any problems with your switches coming lose all the time?? I’m getting tired of having to continually retighten constantly no matter how tight I get them! I just wish they had a tool or (spanner wrench) to get them tight. I hate using a screwdriver to try and get them tight, it just messes them up. I have talked to HH and they have no tool. So they sent me extra nuts. Great fix.
On your Gen 2 transmitter? Esteban's constantly come loose, but my old trusty Gen 1 is always tight... I'm thinking tighten them tight, and one drip of CA and kicker :)
I have the Ranger 2000, which has the exact same wing and tail/empennage. The flaps are effective enough so all the work with flaperon and crow seems a bit unnecessary. I would also put the servo horns in the tail pointing upwards instead of down as you did here, as it would protect them better when landing on grass. Thanks for your very good and interesting videos. 👍
Thanks! I hope it flies as good as it looks!!! The 2.6m certainly flies great, so I'm excited to see if the 2m outperforms the 2.6m, which is excellent!
Does anybody know which protocol the Volantex Lanyu receiver uses?? I need to know if it will bind to the 4 in 1 internal radio module in an OpenTX Radiimaster 16S before I buy the receiver.
There's an email link in the ABOUT tab on our channel. We don't often communicate via email, or I would never get caught up with thousands and thousands of emails per week. It's tough keeping up with comments.
Hey, great vids. Just one thing, bit of a noob question: when balancing the Phoenix, what are you using for weights and most importantly, how should it look when properly balanced? I always worry that I’m too nose or tail heavy. I know a little nose heavy is better but can you show the pitch of the fuse, side on while balancing, so we/I can see what “properly balanced” should look like? Thanks mate, great vids, really helpful and a good laugh too 😉👍🏼
I almost always use the battery to make adjust the CG. Some use dead weight, like lead weights, but I can't bring myself to use dead weight, BUT you can generally use LESS all up weight, since you can get the weight further out in the nose or the tail of the plane.
I liked the video series, and especially liked the way that the crow configuration could really slow the plane down. I have a 6-channel radio. Is it possible to set the flaps up using one channel and having a "Y" cable from the receiver to each servo in the plane? Also, were you using two channels for the ailerons?
As for a "Y" Cable for both flaps - yeah, but builder be ware, you need them to mount them in opposite directions to get them BOTH to move the same direction
The Phoenix 2K V2 is by far the best designed of the Phoenix Series. Unfortunately, mine is sitting in my winter house (in Phoenix) collecting dust. By the way, the horn backer bumps go away from the foam so it doesn't decrease and weaken the foam structure.
Hi Brian would be nice to have a polyhedral wing to float with these gliders these straight wings are slopie's polyhedral for better lift for thermals. ? still Building mine two tail servo's failed when testing asw 28
Thanks for all info,Spektrum user here,seem to be in a minority.. By the way,phoenix build,they do suggest servo and control arm holes to use,it's in the print. I suppose experience is best teacher,but I'm still at a careful reading stage.
That's weird, I guess I missed that part in the manual. Sometimes these things will change over time, so maybe you got a different copy of the manual??? Either way, she flies like a day-dream!!!
When I plugged my 3s in there were no tones at all, what do I do Bri? Is it the esc or the motor? You buy a plane from HobbyKing and you expect it to work 😡
You have to use a compatible protocol... Spektrum uses DSM, then DSM2, and now DSMX. DSMX and DSM2 are generally considered to be "compatible" as the DSMX can be "Forced" back to DSM2, in many cases, but there are some limitations you might run into. Basically, the 2.5 GHz is the frequency range where the Transmitter and Reciever operates, but the WAY that it operates is the "protocol". For example, you might want to use an Orange Rx, which is DSM2 or DSMX...or a Lemon Rx which is DSM2 or DSMX, or they also use DSMP (Which is a joke, since it's ACUTELY just DSMX). But if you ran Futaba, they'd have another protocol, which is FHSS, or FRSKY which is OpenTx, and so on and so forth. There's also some other "toy grade" protocols out there, and some are Crystal based still! Lots to learn on this front. Don't feel bad if you're confused...it took me a few years of screwing around with this stuff to even understand there WAS a difference, but there is. Hopefully, this answers your question.
yeah, seems kinda crazy to not have a proper hing, but then again, some of these planes are made pretty cheap... That being said, the Phoeinx V2 is awesome!!!
amazes me that these companies do all of this engineering to produce a plane that looks nice and flies well, only to screw up the small details like having the linkages not be right. A good number of people in the hobby or getting into the hobby are looking for an engineered solution
Yes. I totally agree. This is a pretty old video, but even now, we are still having to sift through some of this, and it's a huge bummer ;( I guess as long as there's good market competition, the winners will "float to the top"... Thanks Byron. Glad you're here with us!
ua-cam.com/video/riuObqnjvpk/v-deo.html do you have to rebind the receiver when the reversing switch is used with that brand of receiver if you loose signal it will go back the way it was ) ?
I'm not sure if there's a "failsafe" which would need to be reestablished to keep things going straight in the event of a brownout...so the short answer is NO, but if you'd et a more sophisticated Lemon-Rx receiver, you can actually do failsafe, and in this case, you might need to rebind.
That's EXACTLY what happened to me as well. I bought like 3 planes in all of a month, then just forgot to use the credit for about 3 months or whatever it was...next thing you know "POOF", it's gone!!?!!?! I only have about 50 other places I can get "deals", and if they pull the rug out from under your feet, I just don't have time for this type of business. Glad it's not just me, but still go there for small stuff. I feel dirty splitting business like this, but at some point, the customer experience has to come into play. Sad, really...
Is there a simpler step-by-step for sorting flaperons and crow? My head is spinning. Not complaining about your informative vid, just my lack of knowledge. #newb
Sorry, your comment got stuck in "Held for Review" - I have no clue why... YES, we have more RECENT, and WAY easier Crow setup. It's a LOOOOOOOOT easier now-a-days. Here's ONE example for you to check out...but we have more, if you really want to see a few examples. This is just a real recent video series...the Arrows - SZD-54 - 2m , but we've done crow on a few others, fyi Flight - ua-cam.com/video/TxYjuDkXU7A/v-deo.html Unbox Build Radio Setup - ua-cam.com/video/cBOqkCSjbJw/v-deo.html
It's complicated, yeah, worst build video I have watched. Second half on ailerons flaps is enough to make me want to take up drinking again. I watched it twice all the way though. I will try a less ambition project as this RC model is definitely not plug and play.
Brian. These videos on the Phoenix V2 have been incredibly helpful to me. I really appreciate what you and Megan do. I will be building this plane next month.
Thanks Tom!!! Great plane, btw!
Starting at 1:23 you showed the control horn back plate and mentioned the bumps and said there was a right way and a wrong way but you never clearly showed the correct way. So, which way do you think is the right way?
Sorry about that. The FLAT is supposed to go FLAT against the foam (regardless of which surface you're dealing with). Some will argue that I'm wrong, but I'd day there will be a far MORE threads exposed beyond the plastic doing it the "other" way...
...that being said, you can really kinda do it either way :)
@@BrianPhillipsRC I'm with you. I don't see how anyone would think it could go the other way. The way it came across to me was that the bumps should be against the foam. I just wanted to know why. I'm always eager to learn new things. Love your videos.
P.S. I've done it both ways, just to experiment, and if the screws were the correct length, that would be a really nice way to do it, but if you want to cut them down to length, it's very tough, since they get hot and melt the plastic :(
The bumps should go into the foam as they locate the back plate properly and stop it rotating
Thanks for all your help, especially with the decals. My control horns are different, they did not come with screws and the backing plastic has slots that mate with little arms that come off the back of the control horns that protrude through the control surface. Am I supposed to use glue on these or do they lock into place. TIA.
You can glue on the flat part and then just stick them through. That's what I would do at least. If you feel like they will CLIP together good enough, then you could give it a try...BUT just use care they won't come undone with servo movement.
Turned out pretty good , I like it ! Thanks for the Tx tips !! I’m not quite there yet with all the mixes.
You will get there :) Just publishing the maiden in about 8 minutes :) Hope you'll check it out!!!
Hello, awesome video. Always enjoy watching and learning. Radio setup is not yet a strong point for me use set up straight out manual and learned how to use lemons that you use from you. Thanks for your video and time and knowledge. Having fun just RC'n
I'm very glad the video helped. Thanks for watching! I hope this one flies well, as I didn't install a stabilizer (yet)... ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks again, stabilizer or not you have skills at the sticks. That plane looks great and maiden flight should be fine with exception of the minor adjustment or so. Should fly as good as the asw-28 or maybe better? See next time thanks again.
Thanks, I think you're right :) I guess we'll have to wait and see!
Excellent mate , greetings from Australia 😁🇦🇺
Thanks! Glad to see you again Red Ace!
@@BrianPhillipsRC Great glider mate and your work shop setup looks great too . Very inspiring , I might copy the arrangement of your tools mate .👍
Please do, it's been working well for me for about a decade or so...soon I have to make the very tough decisions to copy it myself. I want to do this setup, only make THREE designated areas...
One for metal work, one for wood work, and one for hobby projects....and maybe one for another hobby project, so I can have a more lengthy project going while I work on smaller projects.
Hope to share this part of our lives with you all, as it unfolds. We hope to keep your audience as we work through those parts of our new property :)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks mate for sharing your work shop ideas .Very nice to have areas for short and long term projects 👍
Great Job ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Thanks Will!
You're really making through the oldie-but-goodies ;) LOL!
Thank you so much for the tutorial!
You're very welcome. Keep in mind lots of stuff has changed since we filmed this, so please do take that into consideration when thinking about doing it yourself because, there's considerably easier ways to accomplish even better results now-a-days.
Thanks for watching, and hope when you compare it against current technology, you'll see this pretty clearly
We have done a several more modern sail planes, if you're curious...in fact just the other day, we did a sail plane...not to poo-poo this plane, which was awesome, the Radio Setup may be tough to copy, since many of the parts we used aren't even available anymore.
www.brianphillipsrc.com/sailplanes
The manual does not mention how to free off the control hinges.
What i mean is..... Am i supposed to cut the polystyrene away with a modelling knife on the hinge line?
Surely the plastic hinges should hold it.
Otherwise they are very stiff
Pinch hinges are sometimes okay, and other times they fail quickly. You have to decide how you want to proceed. It's not hard to cut them free, then install a hinge, but you don't have to do it this way, if you'd rather have pinch hinges.
What I mean is that you have the flexibility to do whatever you feel is best.
When you set up your airplane type in your transmitter, are you setting it up as an airplane or sailplane?
Airplane. Sailplanes have all sorts of very complex mixing, which is AWESOME, but it's a lot harder for the newbie :)
I HAVE done it, and it's pretty cool stuff...but I always end up putting it back so that I can use my precious Lemon-Rx ;)
Thanks!
Hello Brian can you tell me what is the range of the receiver you are using in this model? And is it any good Graham
Desperate for guidance on flap & elevator compensation setting for my new Phoenix 2400. Just regular independent flaps on my 3-way D switch. Flap % (and most importantly elevator compensation %) as my maiden flight was a maiden crash. So erratic and uncontrollable that I didn't have any time to learn by trial and error. Help appreciated!
Hey Brian do you have any problems with your switches coming lose all the time?? I’m getting tired of having to continually retighten constantly no matter how tight I get them! I just wish they had a tool or (spanner wrench) to get them tight. I hate using a screwdriver to try and get them tight, it just messes them up. I have talked to HH and they have no tool. So they sent me extra nuts. Great fix.
Inreguards two the above question, I found a tool, and hopefully it works thanks anyway.
On your Gen 2 transmitter? Esteban's constantly come loose, but my old trusty Gen 1 is always tight...
I'm thinking tighten them tight, and one drip of CA and kicker :)
Yeah, the "Split Flat Head" or whatever it goes by...looks kind like a modified nut driver, right?
I have the Ranger 2000, which has the exact same wing and tail/empennage. The flaps are effective enough so all the work with flaperon and crow seems a bit unnecessary.
I would also put the servo horns in the tail pointing upwards instead of down as you did here, as it would protect them better when landing on grass. Thanks for your very good and interesting videos. 👍
Unnecessary is the name of my game ;)
Thanks!
Nice plane
Thanks! I hope it flies as good as it looks!!! The 2.6m certainly flies great, so I'm excited to see if the 2m outperforms the 2.6m, which is excellent!
Does anybody know which protocol the Volantex Lanyu receiver uses?? I need to know if it will bind to the 4 in 1 internal radio module in an OpenTX Radiimaster 16S before I buy the receiver.
I don't know, but maybe another viewer can chime in for you. Sorry!
Hey Brian, great video and thanks for sharing... by the way, how does one email you? I'd like to send a helpful photo
There's an email link in the ABOUT tab on our channel. We don't often communicate via email, or I would never get caught up with thousands and thousands of emails per week. It's tough keeping up with comments.
Hi Brian have the phoenix 2m/ 1600mm wing asw 28 they all need hinging on the bottom of the rudder near the rudder horn. I use white tape white fuse
Hey, great vids. Just one thing, bit of a noob question: when balancing the Phoenix, what are you using for weights and most importantly, how should it look when properly balanced?
I always worry that I’m too nose or tail heavy. I know a little nose heavy is better but can you show the pitch of the fuse, side on while balancing, so we/I can see what “properly balanced” should look like?
Thanks mate, great vids, really helpful and a good laugh too 😉👍🏼
I almost always use the battery to make adjust the CG. Some use dead weight, like lead weights, but I can't bring myself to use dead weight, BUT you can generally use LESS all up weight, since you can get the weight further out in the nose or the tail of the plane.
@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks 😉👍🏻😁
I liked the video series, and especially liked the way that the crow configuration could really slow the plane down. I have a 6-channel radio. Is it possible to set the flaps up using one channel and having a "Y" cable from the receiver to each servo in the plane? Also, were you using two channels for the ailerons?
As for a "Y" Cable for both flaps - yeah, but builder be ware, you need them to mount them in opposite directions to get them BOTH to move the same direction
The Phoenix 2K V2 is by far the best designed of the Phoenix Series. Unfortunately, mine is sitting in my winter house (in Phoenix) collecting dust. By the way, the horn backer bumps go away from the foam so it doesn't decrease and weaken the foam structure.
I thought that might be the correct way, but then you have drag???
These planes are so inexpensive, maybe you could pick up one for here, and one for there :)
I have a 2K V1, 1.6, and Evo here (Portland) fun fun.
Hi Brian would be nice to have a polyhedral wing to float with these gliders these straight wings are slopie's polyhedral for better lift for thermals. ? still Building mine two tail servo's failed when testing asw 28
I don't think you'd get better lift, but some might prefer a polyhedral wing for a more "old school" flying experience.
Thanks for all info,Spektrum user here,seem to be in a minority.. By the way,phoenix build,they do suggest servo and control arm holes to use,it's in the print. I suppose experience is best teacher,but I'm still at a careful reading stage.
That's weird, I guess I missed that part in the manual. Sometimes these things will change over time, so maybe you got a different copy of the manual??? Either way, she flies like a day-dream!!!
When I plugged my 3s in there were no tones at all, what do I do Bri? Is it the esc or the motor? You buy a plane from HobbyKing and you expect it to work 😡
Can you try another ESC easily???? That's where I would start.
You could connect the ESC with an servo tester. It works!
Hey Brian, Magnetic Screwing Tips! PS The Big Tail Hole Is For The Fishing Swivel That Holds Your 3' Long Wind Ribbons!? LMAO 😂
When tasked with picking holes, I always ask which one FIRST - words to live by!
HaHaHaHa LMFAO 😂 And Always Get Permissions & Establish A Safe Word.... 😋
In Writing Under Special CirCumstances + Videos!!!
LOL - exactly!
Brian I thought you had to use spectrum receivers with spectrum transmitters 🤔
You have to use a compatible protocol... Spektrum uses DSM, then DSM2, and now DSMX. DSMX and DSM2 are generally considered to be "compatible" as the DSMX can be "Forced" back to DSM2, in many cases, but there are some limitations you might run into.
Basically, the 2.5 GHz is the frequency range where the Transmitter and Reciever operates, but the WAY that it operates is the "protocol".
For example, you might want to use an Orange Rx, which is DSM2 or DSMX...or a Lemon Rx which is DSM2 or DSMX, or they also use DSMP (Which is a joke, since it's ACUTELY just DSMX). But if you ran Futaba, they'd have another protocol, which is FHSS, or FRSKY which is OpenTx, and so on and so forth. There's also some other "toy grade" protocols out there, and some are Crystal based still!
Lots to learn on this front. Don't feel bad if you're confused...it took me a few years of screwing around with this stuff to even understand there WAS a difference, but there is.
Hopefully, this answers your question.
“Thank You” The information you gave me was very helpful thanks Brian for your help. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️+👍🏻
They should always put proper hinges in the RC Airplanes.
I had too many styrofoam hinges fail
yeah, seems kinda crazy to not have a proper hing, but then again, some of these planes are made pretty cheap... That being said, the Phoeinx V2 is awesome!!!
Great lerning with theas vids thanks good job🍻
amazes me that these companies do all of this engineering to produce a plane that looks nice and flies well, only to screw up the small details like having the linkages not be right. A good number of people in the hobby or getting into the hobby are looking for an engineered solution
Yes. I totally agree. This is a pretty old video, but even now, we are still having to sift through some of this, and it's a huge bummer ;( I guess as long as there's good market competition, the winners will "float to the top"...
Thanks Byron. Glad you're here with us!
Glue em and screw em. Ha ha. I'm going through a build phase to get things nice and tight and stay that way.
Very nice - Keep em tight ;) That's the way I like them - LOL!
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I agree :) Can't wait to get her out!
ua-cam.com/video/riuObqnjvpk/v-deo.html do you have to rebind the receiver when the reversing switch is used with that brand of receiver if you loose signal it will go back the way it was ) ?
I'm not sure if there's a "failsafe" which would need to be reestablished to keep things going straight in the event of a brownout...so the short answer is NO, but if you'd et a more sophisticated Lemon-Rx receiver, you can actually do failsafe, and in this case, you might need to rebind.
take off and landing go go hhiii
Hobby Town exactly. A few years ago I had a $30/40 credit I was working on. Suddenly it was gone, WTF they lost me as customer.
That's EXACTLY what happened to me as well. I bought like 3 planes in all of a month, then just forgot to use the credit for about 3 months or whatever it was...next thing you know "POOF", it's gone!!?!!?! I only have about 50 other places I can get "deals", and if they pull the rug out from under your feet, I just don't have time for this type of business.
Glad it's not just me, but still go there for small stuff. I feel dirty splitting business like this, but at some point, the customer experience has to come into play. Sad, really...
Is there a simpler step-by-step for sorting flaperons and crow? My head is spinning. Not complaining about your informative vid, just my lack of knowledge. #newb
Sorry, your comment got stuck in "Held for Review" - I have no clue why...
YES, we have more RECENT, and WAY easier Crow setup. It's a LOOOOOOOOT easier now-a-days.
Here's ONE example for you to check out...but we have more, if you really want to see a few examples.
This is just a real recent video series...the Arrows - SZD-54 - 2m , but we've done crow on a few others, fyi
Flight - ua-cam.com/video/TxYjuDkXU7A/v-deo.html
Unbox Build Radio Setup - ua-cam.com/video/cBOqkCSjbJw/v-deo.html
P.S. It's normal to have your head spinning on some of this stuff, since back when we filmed this, it was HARD... hang in there, you'll get it.
👍👍
First :)
#1 !!!
People at my Club are just not helpful
That's a bummer!
It's complicated, yeah, worst build video I have watched. Second half on ailerons flaps is enough to make me want to take up drinking again.
I watched it twice all the way though. I will try a less ambition project as this RC model is definitely not plug and play.
"worst build video I have watched." - what an ungrateful asshole you are, Steve, since we're sharing inconsiderate thoughts.
@@BrianPhillipsRC stay on your meds