I’m Scared to Start ADHD Medication

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  • @judakimberly6551
    @judakimberly6551 2 роки тому +28

    Thank you so much for your help, Dr. John! I’ve started to do the hard work of making the necessary changes I’m currently able to make, all while doing adequate research/talking with with an M.D. I’ll write back and keep you posted!

  • @kateblack6289
    @kateblack6289 2 роки тому +14

    I genuinely think that there is a significant amount of truth in this, but taking ADHD medications can be life changing for people. Meds are absolutely not for everyone, and the strategies discussed here (truly, do get into nature) should be integrated as well, but I also use Concerta for work. On days I don’t work, I don’t take as high a dose or do not take it at all. This ensures I’m not always running that endless treadmill of needing more.

  • @lot2196
    @lot2196 2 роки тому +16

    Been struggling with this for 56 years. I have no college education but worked my way into an engineering and IT analyst position. I'm a jack of all trades - master of none. I hated school with a white hot intensity of a thousand suns. Part of me thinks my attention disorder is my superpower, part of me knows it's made most of my life hell.

    • @beng4647
      @beng4647 Рік тому +2

      When you said a jack of all trades...master of none...I feel the same. What is that? Are we just not confident?

    • @davidmuertter
      @davidmuertter 3 місяці тому +1

      @@beng4647 but better than master of just one. Thats the whole saying...

  • @YeunKongsovanrithy369
    @YeunKongsovanrithy369 Рік тому +4

    As I've had ADHD, I accepted all of his speech was true, I will use all of your advice to overcome ADHD. Thank Dr. John From Cambodia.

  • @millklondike
    @millklondike Рік тому +28

    This is a classic case of "correlation does not imply causation". I enjoy Dr. Delony's show, but I think he's way off the mark on this one. ADHD is a chemical issue, not an issue stemming from trauma. Telling a person with ADHD that the solution to their disability is purely to go to counseling and make lifestyle changes is a disservice to those with the issue. If you understand the disorder at all, you understand that people with ADHD know what they need to do, they just can't get themselves to do it. He literally just told her to read a book. Most people with ADHD can't even get through a few paragraphs of a book unless someone is holding a gun to their head, or they get so much enjoyment out of the subject matter that they are totally absorbed into it. Also people with ADHD struggle with making and keeping appointments, and holding themselves to lifestyle changes that they'd like to make. I feel like his advice in this situation would only work for someone that doesn't have to worry about money, and that has a solid support system. Most people with this disorder definitely don't have that. He's perpetuating the stigmatizing of stimulant medications and the disorder itself. Very disappointed...

    • @shayvisinko6584
      @shayvisinko6584 8 місяців тому +4

      Thank you for this comment. I really respect Dr. Delony’s perspective in most things, but as someone who also has ADHD I really struggled with this take. In the last 10 years research into ADHD has exploded in comparison to the previous 40 years, and the results of that is pretty clear that ADHD is a deficit of activity in the pre frontal cortex combined with a dysfunction of dopamine receptors that is genetic in nature and trauma is an exacerbation of these dysfunctions. I spent the first 30 years of my life rejecting stimulants because of the combination of stigma and lack of acknowledgment of the internal symptoms of ADHD particularly in women and it’s not until I had children and my cognitive load was pushed beyond its capacity on a daily basis that I really sat down and educated myself on adhd from a neurological standpoint and it’s impact throughout life stages rather then the symptoms of ADHD child in a classroom.
      Stimulants changed my life. My children’s mother having a support in the functioning pre frontal cortex, and balanced dopamine levels, has changed my children’s life. There are so many things that assist an ADHD brain from a life style standpoint, I won’t ever discount that, but ability to consistently implement these strategies is something that only came with correct medication.

    • @oishikaray2767
      @oishikaray2767 7 місяців тому

      ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺 thank you both so very very much for this - xxxxxx so much

    • @michaelfalco5587
      @michaelfalco5587 6 місяців тому +1

      To be fair, all things in the brain are chemical issues. They're called neurotransmitters. I too feel as though I need medication to treat my ADHD, but he is definitely not completely off the mark.

    • @apriltownsend8463
      @apriltownsend8463 3 місяці тому

      My nephew has ADHD and doesn't have problems making or keeping appointments at all AND has no problem making changes to his lifestyle. He went from going to school to going to school AND working on a ranch then to full time ranch then BACK to full time school and ranch with no problem whatsoever. Also, you proved him right in talking about the book by saying some with ADHD absorb the material they read. Maybe that's her. My nephew just simply has the hyperactivity part but if he finds something he really enjoys doing then he locks in on it and he's AMAZING at it.

  • @SimonTekConley
    @SimonTekConley 2 роки тому +20

    I used to be against taking ADHD meds, then I struggled with life for years. Then a buddy had me try vyvanse. Strangely on a day I was to relax. So I took it, and I was able to get everything done that I was trying to get done for months. I hate being on meds, but, it's a 180° difference on what I could accomplish in a given time. I love how the meds help me, and it works great for me. That said there's 2 types of deficiencies. Serotonin, and dopamine. Vyvanse works great for me, where as strattera doesn't do anything for me. What really got me to check things out was the documentary called, ADD and loving it?

    • @Whitericeinmysalad
      @Whitericeinmysalad 2 роки тому +1

      Glad it works for you. My son takes it and it makes him depressed, angry and lazy. 😞 How many milligrams are you on? He is on 25.

    • @SimonTekConley
      @SimonTekConley 2 роки тому +1

      @@Whitericeinmysalad 30. Maybe he would do better on strattera. They can do a blood test to figure out which is best for him. I would look into it.

    • @nicolcacola
      @nicolcacola 2 роки тому +1

      I didn't know there was two types of deficiencies! Thank you for the info. I have more to look into now.

    • @SwayzeeSoul
      @SwayzeeSoul 2 роки тому +2

      That’s all really cute and adorable until you realize that methamphetamine and ADHD medications are only one molecule different 😂😂😂
      You were basically taking methamphetamine to concentrate. This drug has very serious side effects after prolonged use or abuse.
      You really need to go back to high school and take chemistry.

    • @altx7
      @altx7 2 роки тому +8

      @@SwayzeeSoul Bobby must be a tweaker because normal people without addiction issues don’t worry themselves about how losers abuse medication. All drugs have a purpose. They can be used productively or not. Bobby did you even graduate high school?

  • @Dbzman-69
    @Dbzman-69 2 роки тому +5

    It's true what they say about most doctors not knowing anything about adhd and as much as I like doctor doloni he is one of them, he said a few times on the call that it's related to some childhood trauma or something, this is just like when people dismiss it saying you didn't get an ass whoopen enough from your parents. it is frustrating how adhd in adults gets easily dismissed by even most doctors people will never know the torture of living with that thing, and the stimulant medication helps immensely and its life changing but even getting the medication consistently is a challenge you have to chase the doctors every 30 days because you can't just regular refills on it like other meds and, every time you change doctors for any reason you run the risk of your next doctor not being willing to perscribe the medication that helps you live a normal life. This adhd is more of a struggle than people looking from the outside will ever know

  • @meganmorgan7491
    @meganmorgan7491 Місяць тому

    This made me cry. You described me perfectly. I need to work on the discipline part of my life

  • @tearosita8869
    @tearosita8869 2 роки тому +1

    Judaea are you me? I felt like John was talking directly to me. Thank you 💜

  • @9liveslisa
    @9liveslisa 2 роки тому +7

    I wouldn't take any medication for my mental health without speaking to an MD (Psychiatrist) about the situation. They know more about these medications and whether a patient should take them or not. They can also help you wean off of them should you want to.

    • @SnowS162
      @SnowS162 2 роки тому

      I don't know if they know anything. The first time I met a psychiatrist, he prescribed medication to me like random without knowing much about me other than depression. I felt like a guinea pig. The next time I came back and complained anxiety, he prescribed me anxiety medication. The appointments were like 5 minutes.

    • @ravenestrella2310
      @ravenestrella2310 2 роки тому +3

      @@SnowS162 They do, but, speaking from personal experience, what I've found is that you have to get one that really knows ADHD well. I have ADHD, and my mother's a psychiatrist. Thanks to her training, she was able to pick up that something was different years before I was even old enough to get diagnosed. This then allowed me to get the diagnosis I needed as soon as I was old enough to get diagnosed, and start down the path to getting the support I needed incredibly early on. Growing up, I was shocked at how much more I understood ADHD than others I knew who had it thanks to my mom's training. Plus, I was able to try Adderall before it was even made available to the general public. Granted, it wound up not being the right medication for me, but being able to try a new medication at a time when all everyone else had available to them was Ritalin was certainly a bonus!
      That said, it is true...not all psychiatrists understand ADHD, and even with my mother's help, finding psychiatrists who really understand it well has been a struggle, because, not all of them understand it. In my experience, the trick is finding those who specialize in ADHD, and working with them. I am sorry to hear about your struggles with psychiatrists, though, and can relate as I've had my own share of struggles with bad ones, myself! I'm just saying, don't let your bad experience with one make you give up on all of them! There are good ones out there, and it's well worth it to seek them out!

    • @judakimberly6551
      @judakimberly6551 2 роки тому +1

      I am also working with a psychiatrist, and I have the final say in whether I have medication as part of my treatment plan. I’m glad I got Dr. Deloney’s perspective on it so I can ultimately have all the tools I can to work through it. Thank you for this caveat though! I’m genuinely glad there’s folks like you that care about the well-being of strangers on the internet. I wish I could give you a hug!!

  • @gmoney1089
    @gmoney1089 2 роки тому +5

    I've been listening to "Scattered" on Audible for over 6 months, I'm about hallways through... 🤦‍♂️ I
    think the author has been saying the same thing over and over for 5 hours.

  • @Danny-sx6cj
    @Danny-sx6cj 2 роки тому +1

    Phenomenal call. Thanks Dr. John

  • @grassoj1
    @grassoj1 11 місяців тому +3

    I really don't buy mate's trauma hypothesis. Maybe he's part right and trauma came induced ADHD like conditions for some people, but true ADHD doesn't require it. I may have had some trauma but I suspect it was just how I was worried. When my daughter showed she had the exact same ADHD brain I do it showed me how clearly genetic it was. And I'm glad to say she has had a trauma and anxiety free life.

  • @jceggbert5
    @jceggbert5 2 роки тому +4

    I'm on wellbutrin for my depression and it's helped some with the adhd as well. Inhibits the reuptake of your natural dopamine and norepinephrine rather than adding new stimulation.

  • @elainemarie1473
    @elainemarie1473 2 роки тому +11

    John is in the Bible too
    Sorry, nothing to do with ADHD(although I have adult ADHD🤣 maybe that's why the name conversation distracted me entirely🤣)

  • @matt.108
    @matt.108 Рік тому +1

    When prescribed and handled by a professional, ADHD medication can absolutely be safe. The problem is doctors don’t follow up enough, up the dosage too much and don’t communicate well. Taking rest days and weekends off medication can dramatically reduce the need to increase dosages. When taken responsibly it is safe. It can be abused. That’s why having a great provider is so important. People also have to weigh the risks and rewards. For some having a better quality of life for 60 years at the cost of 10-15 years is absolutely worth it depending on how bad ADHD effects them. Unfortunately long term studies are almost impossible to do.

  • @Okay182
    @Okay182 2 роки тому +12

    Personal experience, adderall ruined my life for a bit. I think I was improperly diagnosed with adhd when I was 21. It was amazing for the first year, because I felt so productive and lost about 25 pounds. Then I became so dependent on it and truly could not function without. I planned my day based on when I took medication. I wouldn’t go out with friends at certain times cuz I knew i would get incredibly depressed once it began to wear off. About 3 years into using it I started to become very jumpy and paranoid by everything. I really went crazy.
    Keep in mind I have plenty of friends who had prescriptions for it and didn’t have the same experience as me. But I also think mine became an unhealthy addiction and would take more than prescribed.

    • @RealGalaxyGamers
      @RealGalaxyGamers 2 роки тому

      I’ve heard adults shouldn’t be prescribed adderall.

    • @Grigsy
      @Grigsy 2 роки тому +1

      That's not addiction. That means your medicine works.

    • @hippiegypsygirl
      @hippiegypsygirl Рік тому

      Ummm I was thinking I should only take half of what the dr gives me and see how that works. Is there a less addicting and depressing medication? I don’t want ridilin or adderall because of the things I’ve heard. There were two other names I heard are more gentle. I don’t know what the long term could be from each of these…. I don’t think I want to be on a stimulant because when would I ever be allowed to stop? Also I do have an issue that I want to fix so it’s hard to refuse treatment when what I have now isn’t great. I’m 30 and just finding out I have this, it takes me all day to get one thing done…

    • @AV5oh
      @AV5oh 2 місяці тому

      That’s your fault if you’re taking more than described

  • @marciabinninger2840
    @marciabinninger2840 2 роки тому +1

    I wish ADHD was a thing when I was growing up. I grew up on an island so although it may have been a thing in the real world it was not on Martha’s Vineyard. This goes back to the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s.
    My parents were so frustrated with me and I paid severe consequences because of it.
    In school they could not figure out how to teach me. In 8th grade they something was wrong with me and gave me an IQ test. I had the IQ of a college freshman in 8th grade, and yet when I was sent to my freshman year of high school I was put in all remedial classes.
    I got all my best grades till my English teacher said hey she doesn’t belong in this class and had me switched to the next level up and left to sink or swim and I basically treaded water for the rest of high school. I was told I would never be anyone or anything. So not to bore you I have just treaded water for the rest of my life.

  • @Whitericeinmysalad
    @Whitericeinmysalad 2 роки тому +9

    This is a good question. My son was on adderall for his ADHD but now that he is an adult the physician switched him to Vyvanse which has made him depressed and a lil lazy. When he stops taking it he is worse within a week. How can he safely wean from Vyvanse. I wish he never would have started it. It’s awful. 😞

    • @NeuroSeasoned
      @NeuroSeasoned 2 роки тому +5

      He needs as appt with his psychiatrist soon, and make sure he has several follow up appts to keep track of his symptoms. It'sgreat he has your support, too

    • @Whitericeinmysalad
      @Whitericeinmysalad 2 роки тому

      @@NeuroSeasoned thx I will.

    • @yalelop428
      @yalelop428 2 роки тому +1

      Took that bs in middle school made me despessed but also got the best grades in my 12yr... that one semester

    • @gloriack7976
      @gloriack7976 2 роки тому

      Diet diet diet. And connection.

  • @emilycosson3335
    @emilycosson3335 2 роки тому +1

    It's not that someone tells us we suck that facilitates that insecurity in relationships and question our value. Rejection sensitivity is an actual symptom of ADHD. Not only are our brains spun up but they also lie to us!

    • @AV5oh
      @AV5oh 2 місяці тому

      This is trauma based. Attachment trauma from childhood. Which is solidifying his description of adhd

  • @rebeccaoprea9917
    @rebeccaoprea9917 2 роки тому +4

    I can relate with her 💯

  • @beng4647
    @beng4647 7 місяців тому

    Im 41. Ive spent my entire life trying to get healthcare or ADD meds. Ive been homeless for 20 years. There is no help in America unless you are a very rich kid.

  • @owenkellogg3130
    @owenkellogg3130 Рік тому +1

    I really liked this. Delony seemed like he knew what he was talking about. I would love to take nature walks, exercise, be better. Nonetheless, I work 12 days on and 2 days off. I am overwhelmed by working with people for so many hours of the week. I am burnt out and don't care to keep at it for more hours every week. Medication sounds better.

    • @blah7694
      @blah7694 8 місяців тому

      That's sounds rough, can you change jobs?

    • @owenkellogg3130
      @owenkellogg3130 8 місяців тому

      @@blah7694 I would, but they keep offering me more money. 💰💰💰 I started my bachelor's degree in accounting. Hopefully I can work in my underwear at home in a couple years and start taking weekends off. Thanks for the concern!

  • @skrrskrr99
    @skrrskrr99 6 місяців тому

    I feel like im at my wits end. I cannot focus, I'm stuck in limbo, I'm barely holding it together and I can't focus.
    If I'm not on medication I'm self medicating which might be worse.
    I worry that medication will make me dependent for the rest of my life. I'm already dependent on so many things, I can barely get out of bed, I can never fall asleep, I stare at my screen at work for half the day.
    Every day I feel like I'm gonna get fired. Nothing helps.
    The only time i have peace is never. 😆

  • @MrsJFJ
    @MrsJFJ 5 місяців тому

    I do think there is a connection between perfectionism and ADHD.

  • @rubystone2502
    @rubystone2502 3 місяці тому +1

    Great… a video right in the middle of middle of watching a really great podcast about adhd 😂🤦‍♀️

  • @rosemaryschroeder3642
    @rosemaryschroeder3642 4 місяці тому

    My son seems to think that I've had some sort of depression issues or ADHD most of my life because of something that happened when I was a teenager I will not let any medication go in my body unless it's something I really really need if I'm going to be happy it's because something made me happy not because a drug did my son used to feel the same way but changed his mind recently because he was having a lot of anxiety attacks so he started taking anti-anxiety drugs he said it's helping but it's not for me and I worry about what it's doing to his body I had a relative die because of being on those drugs for too many years of their life

  • @irina383
    @irina383 Рік тому

    What to do for people who was told they are piece of crap every day of their life?

  • @laurenecarter246
    @laurenecarter246 Рік тому

    I'm questioning whether to put my 8 year old daughter on adhd meds too.

    • @aluf2567
      @aluf2567 8 місяців тому

      Look up Dr. Russell Barkley. He's a world-renowned and respected psychologist who focuses his studies on ADHD!

  • @Bloogly89
    @Bloogly89 2 роки тому

    The name John is in the Bible too, haha. Good one John.

  • @jerrywilliamson2040
    @jerrywilliamson2040 2 роки тому +1

    Some children are getting beta blockers for ADHD- better than speed I would think. How effective in adults?

    • @revolutionunderground
      @revolutionunderground Рік тому +2

      You do know that an ADHD doesn't react the same way to amphetamine/Adderall, right? Don't call it "speed" when it's MEDICINE for a MEDICAL CONDITION

    • @Darren-u7t
      @Darren-u7t 8 місяців тому

      No behavior or misbehavior is or can be a disease😊

  • @Kbearthmover
    @Kbearthmover 4 місяці тому

    Someone tell john has a book of the Bible

  • @blah7694
    @blah7694 8 місяців тому

    Lots of names are in the bible, like John 😆

  • @Catherine-pi2uv
    @Catherine-pi2uv Місяць тому

    Think John Delony needs to look at ADHD research more.