SHOU TUCKER'S A BAD DAD | Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood Reaction | Ep 4 "An Alchemist’s Anguish"

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  • In a horrifying episode, we meet the Sewing-Life Alchemist, Shou tucker, and witness him do the unthinkable in order to make a chimera impressive enough to keep his state alchemist status. This episode was shocking, but left us wanting to see more!
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  • @LettsReact
    @LettsReact  Рік тому +44

    Episodes 4, 5, & 6 posted to Patreon now! Also, Demon Slayer episodes 1, 2, 3, & 4 and No Regrets parts 1&2 posted as well!
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    • @jony3261
      @jony3261 Рік тому

      What's Your Top 3 Ultimate Anime?

    • @k1llerchimera90
      @k1llerchimera90 Рік тому

      Edward...

    • @Sigrid_Von_Sincluster
      @Sigrid_Von_Sincluster Рік тому +1

      hey just camed from ep 3 going into 4, aaaand, idk if this got explained to you guys or not, but when it comes to the names of the alchimists in this show, well that's what they are they are, they are nicknames, so no need to take every single one of them as litterly as you do, with the exception of mustang's, the nicknames are for the most part just something that sounded rly cool, that the author liked to add to all the characters that are state alchimists

    • @TrevorianTheTemplar
      @TrevorianTheTemplar Рік тому

      On todays episode of how fucked up is fucked up. Me: thats fucked up.

    • @Bin-G78
      @Bin-G78 Рік тому

      Every. Damn. Time. i cry like a baby for nina and alexander every damn time.

  • @williamrichards8682
    @williamrichards8682 Рік тому +1443

    At the end of each part of the manga, they have a picture of all the characters who’d died in that part with angel wings and a halo going up to heaven, even the villains. The only exception is Shou Tucker, who’s drawn falling into hell.

    • @falilia5619
      @falilia5619 Рік тому +140

      Wait really? They drew him falling into hell 😂😂. I thought he just wasn’t shown flying to heaven

    • @narutosraman
      @narutosraman Рік тому +137

      @@falilia5619 Yeah she got very creative with her characters lol

    • @JustAMagicDuck
      @JustAMagicDuck Рік тому +158

      Hell needs to open a whole new level just for that guy.

    • @koki84ji7
      @koki84ji7 Рік тому +20

      Every video this comment is in lol

    • @noahschultz9031
      @noahschultz9031 Рік тому +56

      Good, that monster is in Hell where he belongs. At least Nina and Alexander aren’t fused and in pain anymore…

  • @bhsmiler0871
    @bhsmiler0871 Рік тому +440

    When ATLA makes hybrid animals: 😍😍😍
    When FMAB makes hybrid animals: 😱😱😱

    • @haydenberends3905
      @haydenberends3905 Рік тому +11

      OOF 😨

    • @joshuafischer684
      @joshuafischer684 Рік тому +8

      Different world building is different.

    • @TheDragiix3
      @TheDragiix3 Рік тому +36

      ATLA: Haha, quak quak it's a cute little Turtleduck-
      FMAB: I'll merge this child with a dog and then its head will blow up.

    • @usamahussain4461
      @usamahussain4461 Рік тому +3

      oh I never thought that way!

    • @Dracobyte
      @Dracobyte Рік тому +4

      It is said that FMA fans only had one meme but that is not true, WE USED TO HAVE TWO!

  • @adrianwagner8202
    @adrianwagner8202 Рік тому +1236

    To this day, Shou Tucker is still ranked number one as the most hated anime character. Not just in FMAB, but all anime. That's very impressive considering he appears in just one episode. But damn, those scars he inflicted on us with this cruel act will never fade.

    • @Daesma999
      @Daesma999 Рік тому +40

      I feel like I am the only one who didn't get mad or sad or anything.
      But I did feel uncomfortable, true.

    • @AStrangeWindmill
      @AStrangeWindmill Рік тому +203

      He got that reputation off the 2003 anime, not this one. In that anime, you see both him and the entire Tucker family for more time, and in several episodes after.
      He's worse, and even more insane.

    • @zuralani1
      @zuralani1 Рік тому +107

      Like the person before me said, the 2003 series was much more than one episode to grow attached to the characters. While the 2003 FMA did branch off from the manga (because it wasn't finished yet), the earlier episodes are still accurate. Because they figured most people watching Brotherhood would have seen FMA, the overlapping early parts were done at a quicker pace so they could get to the new content. That's why some people suggest watching FMA up to a certain episode and then swapping over to Brotherhood.

    • @bryancomer1984
      @bryancomer1984 Рік тому +8

      i would wager this is because everything he does, at some deep level, people can comprehend why he did it, but its so foul to consider it makes us cringe and hurt emotionally

    • @forfor1311
      @forfor1311 Рік тому +5

      any bondrewd in the chat?

  • @Marta-uv4id
    @Marta-uv4id Рік тому +841

    While the last episode was showing religion taken to the extreme, this episode shows the same for science. Shou Tucker was so obsessed with the fact that he had to stay a State Alchemist that he was willing to sacrifice his wife, daughter and dog for it. He didn't feel any regret at all and even bragged about what he did.

    • @lucasbranc
      @lucasbranc Рік тому +41

      Never noticed this little detail.
      Thanks for pointing out.

    • @2011carp
      @2011carp Рік тому

      Such a huge spoiler

    • @Marta-uv4id
      @Marta-uv4id Рік тому +51

      @@2011carp Well, they've already seen the episode, and I assumed everyone in this comment section did as well?

    • @2011carp
      @2011carp Рік тому +1

      @@Marta-uv4id why would you assume everyone in the comments already saw it? lol

    • @redmdlee
      @redmdlee Рік тому +73

      @@2011carp because its a reacts channel not a watch the anime here for free channel?

  • @noremac7216
    @noremac7216 Рік тому +641

    In the manga scar didn't say that two human souls were being returned to God. He actually just says two souls are being returned to God. The leading theory being that the author was saying that Alexander and Nina were going to heaven but not Shou. This is actually supported because she draws the characters who die ascending to heaven at the end of the volumes. Even the villains get to go to heaven, The Only exception is Shou Tucker who instead falls to hell.

  • @BenderRodriguez10
    @BenderRodriguez10 Рік тому +163

    "It's good to see so much happiness in an anime..."
    Oh you sweet summer child.

    • @natanaru
      @natanaru Рік тому +13

      Phrases said before immediate disaster

    • @cristaltophat
      @cristaltophat Рік тому +2

      This and other hilarious lies to tell yourself 😅

    • @user-qj9en1kp1m
      @user-qj9en1kp1m 10 місяців тому +1

      Yes, that is what I thought. This episode is heartbreaking.

  • @oThalesra
    @oThalesra Рік тому +84

    "- Wario...
    - Chlamydia..."
    Excerpt from a conversation between Nietzsche and Dostoevsky, circa 1875.

  • @Hawk199031
    @Hawk199031 Рік тому +158

    Narrator of life: "Kenny has now realized the gravity of his past words, it was a harsh but necessary lesson. Chimeras are cool, until you have learned how they are made."

  • @rjai5003
    @rjai5003 Рік тому +228

    In episode 1 they said something like “We’re big dog people” and it took all my willpower not to make a Nina joke

    • @thisstuffisdumb
      @thisstuffisdumb Рік тому +53

      nina was also a big dog person for some time lol

    • @ShadowSkyX
      @ShadowSkyX Рік тому +15

      Something something their words: aw it looks like Samuel!
      All i could think was "oh no, those poor souls"

  • @brandonthompson8640
    @brandonthompson8640 Рік тому +348

    ahhh the shared bonding over new viewers getting their heart broken by this episode. never gets old.

    • @Dracobyte
      @Dracobyte Рік тому +5

      It is said that FMA fans only had one meme but that is not true, WE USED TO HAVE TWO!

    • @brodericksiz625
      @brodericksiz625 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Dracobyte I hate you for making me laugh as hard as you did

  • @stardmg
    @stardmg Рік тому +110

    For some reason only known to the anime staff, they skipped a scene from the manga after Al stops Ed from punching Tucker. Tucker starts going on again, and Al cuts him off saying "If you don't shut up, this time I'll be the one to snap." It's a really great moment that shows that while Al is a lot kinder and more patient than Ed, he also has limits on how much he can take.

  • @acetrainer44
    @acetrainer44 Рік тому +269

    Kenny last episode: “Making a chimera seems pretty cool.”
    Kenny this episode: “I regret my previous statement…”
    Also for future reference, some of the characters and events they mention in these earlier episodes were things that occurred in the manga and the original 2003 anime, they just adapted the earlier portion of the series differently and adjusted story beats slightly

    • @WaywardVet
      @WaywardVet Рік тому +6

      One word. Yoki.

    • @komarunaegi7460
      @komarunaegi7460 Рік тому +3

      @@WaywardVet At least they mention him at 4:53. But it's such a passing line that most people who only watch Brotherhood tend to miss it, as well as other references to him before he finally shows up as if we're supposed to recognize him. I was one of those people.

  • @DeusHominis
    @DeusHominis Рік тому +249

    I’m very rarely a “the book was better” kind of person, but in the manga, Tucker wasn’t immediately played up to be all that creepy. He came across as just a single father stressed from work. It made the punch from what he did feel so much worse because it came out of nowhere rather than in the show where the music and his voice make you pretty sus of him from the jump.

    • @ShadowSkyX
      @ShadowSkyX Рік тому +56

      2003 had 2 or 3 episodes of buildup before Nina dropped hints what her father told her vs what he admitted to them didn't quite match up or feel right. Lying to her because she's little, fine, as it was the supposed truth that her mother left them would devastate her as is. but in his mind it was better she start disliking her mother the longer her letters didn't get answered so she would ask less questions. But truthfully, it was only a matter of time before Nina asked the right questions and the web of lies to keep her in the dark fell apart.

    • @Blazegti
      @Blazegti Рік тому +6

      I agree, it was a bigger shock and I didn’t catch on until Edward did

    • @debbystragier2154
      @debbystragier2154 6 місяців тому

      It was still a shock to me because even if he seemed shady, I never would have thought that he would do something this disgusting. Also personally “i’m the book was better” kind of person (if the book was the original of course) since book adaptations can be hard to do right in my opinion.

  • @declanm810
    @declanm810 Рік тому +116

    Ah yes, one of the most traumatising episodes in TV history.
    You’ve just been Episode 4’d

    • @haydenberends3905
      @haydenberends3905 Рік тому +2

      The ONLY upside to this is it got through the darkest stuff quickly.

    • @Dracobyte
      @Dracobyte Рік тому +2

      It is said that FMA fans only had one meme but that is not true, WE USED TO HAVE TWO!

  • @SirSpitsAlotable
    @SirSpitsAlotable Рік тому +386

    FYI. I think you misunderstood the “Iron Blood Alchemist” the guy who died was the IBA not the one who killed him.

    • @stardmg
      @stardmg Рік тому +13

      How did they even mess that up? He literally asks Grand if *he's* the Iron Blood Alchemist.

    • @inquisitive6786
      @inquisitive6786 Рік тому +4

      @@stardmg they talk too much snd pay little attention, they barely reacted to Tucker and the chimera

    • @anthropomorphicrabbit866
      @anthropomorphicrabbit866 Рік тому

      I think Kenny just said it when he walked in the room, it wasn’t directed at either. I think he knows.

    • @Chris-ko7ov
      @Chris-ko7ov Рік тому +5

      @@inquisitive6786 to be honest, Tucker in FMAb is not as shocking as 2003, little to no attachment to this characters. Way too forced in like 3 scenes with Nina, while 2003 gave them at least 3 episodes (if i recall correctly), so since Tucker does this unforgiving thing its more about the monstruosity of the action than the sadness and build up to that moment. Same as with Rose and Cornello arc, way too rushed. Understandable tho.

  • @bolt2134
    @bolt2134 Рік тому +100

    I love how even tho Ed has his rule of "i don't kill" you can still see him beating the crap out of Tucker and if it wasn't for Alphonse stopping him he would have beat him to death, like you can see Ed wanting to cross that line so bad tbecause of how angry he got.

    • @DaDunge
      @DaDunge Рік тому +6

      I think Ed would have killed in this case.

    • @johnsantos507
      @johnsantos507 8 місяців тому

      At least Scar kill Shou Tucker. That's true justice.

  • @mattgarrett2583
    @mattgarrett2583 Рік тому +135

    Fun fact. In the manga when people die in this show a little panel shows them ascending to heaven. Shou Tucker is the one that doesn't go up.. he goes down.

    • @breakfastball416
      @breakfastball416 Рік тому +6

      He doesn’t deserve a panel…

    • @joshuafischer684
      @joshuafischer684 Рік тому +3

      @@breakfastball416 As abhorrent as Shou is, his evil is far from the greatest in this show. The entire top military brass will be down in the Pit with Tucker, frozen solid for their treason right alongside him.

  • @ElliotLowell
    @ElliotLowell Рік тому +29

    Scar said two souls were returned to heaven... it was Nina and Alexander

  • @logansimpkins3108
    @logansimpkins3108 Рік тому +50

    This was even worse in the 2003 version. We had 3 or 4 episodes with Nina, Alexander and Tucker, meaning we had a stronger connection with the characters. Also, while he was suspicious at times, the multiple episodes meant Tucker's actions were even more shocking and heartbreaking

    • @ApokalipsyS
      @ApokalipsyS Рік тому +10

      Sometimes I feel like the 2003 version is a must watch before Brotherhood

    • @DaDunge
      @DaDunge Рік тому +4

      @@ApokalipsyS Yeah I'd say someone who means to watch this show should watch that to episode 20 something and then watch this.

    • @Kickinthescience
      @Kickinthescience Рік тому +5

      @@DaDunge it’s too bad ppl keep recommending they skip the original

    • @Romero817
      @Romero817 Рік тому +5

      Also, the visuals in FMA of Nina's fate were WAAAY more horrific then FMAB.
      The multiple episodes get to know them and the end result was perhaps much more significant than FMAB.

    • @ANCIENTxDEATH
      @ANCIENTxDEATH 2 місяці тому

      ​@@ApokalipsyS Agreed

  • @sirken2
    @sirken2 Рік тому +26

    The first chimera was his wife and a random animal. Nina and Alexander had an emotional and loving bond thus allowing for the fusion of them both to work better. Also, his wife had a bad bond/ connection with him while his daughter and alexander had a stronger connection with him. The first wanted to die Nina just wanted to play. That was a mercy killing

    • @ShadowSkyX
      @ShadowSkyX Рік тому

      The first wanted to die because of the pain and likely the muddled hatred for what her so call husband did to her. Dying asap was the biggest "f-ck you!" she could do in that state before exiting life.

  • @CharlieDaisy
    @CharlieDaisy Рік тому +39

    There is one thing I think you're missing when you're talking about them trying to bring back their mom and in talking about living human transmutation. The law of equivalent exchange was so much more taxing with their mother because of the quantification of the soul, not the body. Where a living being is intact already and transmuting it may be wrong, but ultimately the law doesn't require sacrifice like what is needed with a soul.

    • @AStrangeWindmill
      @AStrangeWindmill Рік тому +11

      Yep. It's not something you really see until the first run through of the show, but there's something genuinely disturbing about Ed listing out the ingredients for human transmutation.
      Like, that's just not enough. How could that _possibly_ be all that makes a person? A human body, sure, but a _person_ ? And then Truth comes through and is like "no, it's not enough. You underpaid _substantially_ . Allow me to correct accounts."

  • @rizalfadhlurrahman6622
    @rizalfadhlurrahman6622 Рік тому +72

    I love the fact that episode 3 was a representation of religion to the extreme, and the next episode represents science to the extreme, showing us that no matter what you prefer to believe in, nothing is good when it's too extreme

    • @Renozable
      @Renozable Рік тому +10

      Mostly agreed. But one doesn’t „believe“ in science. It’s a concept which proves or disproves itself again and again.

    • @BalikTrollbane
      @BalikTrollbane Рік тому

      I would even say that religion supports science and science supports religion. They can coexist healthily. These episodes show how they can be diametrically opposite and harmful. But in reality science cannot answer everything and not all religions are cults

    • @kinsmart7294
      @kinsmart7294 Рік тому

      @@Renozable Science doesn't differ from the scientist who research cancer cures or the nazis and japanese during ww2 that used human experimentation on prisioners.
      Science without morality is an cold endeavor.

    • @Renozable
      @Renozable Рік тому

      @@BalikTrollbane well medieval showed otherwise. Even today science is getting oppressed by religion in Islamic countries. We are free from that in Christian countries just around 100 years. And tbh science never oppressed religion.

    • @BalikTrollbane
      @BalikTrollbane Рік тому

      @@Renozable hey, I appreciate the respectful replay. I'm not saying religion hasn't committed some serious crimes in the past...plus there are alot of "Christians" that are not actually historical Christian's and dont hold the same beliefs and worldview as the apostles in the first century AD. However, just because there is a bad apple doesnt mean the entire bushel is rotten. In Christian belief, the world is fallen and its understood all people are sinners, hence why organized religion has had problems...because people are flawed. it doesn't mean the fundamental truth is infact false. As for science and by extension culture, there is a huge modern culture war that is attacking moral values (many of which origin from Judeo-Christian belief system). I'm not trying to argue and be disrespectful

  • @mx9226
    @mx9226 Рік тому +66

    I feel terrible for laughing. They’re gonna be in so much pain.

    • @stoffelthedestroyer3741
      @stoffelthedestroyer3741 Рік тому +1

      after a certain amount of time passed even AIDS and cancer became funny.
      FMA came out in 2001. It has been 21 years.
      Nina dbz fusion with her dog is now very funny.

    • @scrawnytony3174
      @scrawnytony3174 Рік тому +1

      @@stoffelthedestroyer3741 it became funny to me when schlatt started reciting the treaty of Versailles

  • @teamvlcn6820
    @teamvlcn6820 Рік тому +54

    "Shou Tucker's a bad dad."
    And Alphonse has trouble eating.

    • @haydenberends3905
      @haydenberends3905 Рік тому +11

      And Ed's temper is as short as his body.

    • @novashy7119
      @novashy7119 Рік тому +4

      @@haydenberends3905 Thats not true at all. Eds temper is way shorter then his body

    • @haydenberends3905
      @haydenberends3905 Рік тому +4

      @@novashy7119 Run. He's coming for you 😰

  • @zuralani1
    @zuralani1 Рік тому +30

    "I think that's where we're left with this episode: with that horrible moral quandary!" should be the official tagline for Fullmetal Alchemist

  • @LettsReact
    @LettsReact  Рік тому +22

    Comment below if this episode TRAUMATIZED you

    • @adrianwagner8202
      @adrianwagner8202 Рік тому +1

      Even if I've seen way worse, I still see it as the most disturbing anime episode I've ever seen. No gore needed. The concept is enough to send shivers down my spine.

    •  Рік тому +1

      Ed... ward...
      Damn, this is one of those episodes that you'll remember forever. And not for the good reasons. It burnt into my brain.

    • @Daesma999
      @Daesma999 Рік тому

      nope. It didn't.

    • @Talyrion
      @Talyrion Рік тому +2

      Well, this episode didn't traumatize me... but mostly because the corresponding manga chapter and the 2003 anime take on it already did that before.

    • @fajarkurniawan9434
      @fajarkurniawan9434 Рік тому +2

      I love that both of you immediately holding hand at that scene

  • @Polymathically
    @Polymathically Рік тому +77

    Congratulations, you've made it through Episode 4. FMA:B is an emotional roller coaster, and you've just hit the first real bump. It's amazing that Shou Tucker remains one of the most hated characters in all of anime, despite only appearing in one episode. Sometimes, the worst evil isn't a grandiose world conqueror, but the kind that feels violating on a personal, intimate level. And it doesn't get any more personal than hurting your own child.

    • @Kickinthescience
      @Kickinthescience Рік тому +5

      The original FMA gave Tucker that reputation. Major Hughes storyline was better in the original as well

  • @anthonyarmstrong1507
    @anthonyarmstrong1507 Рік тому +45

    THE “ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT” WAS TOO ON POINT 💀

  • @Cmnt_6661
    @Cmnt_6661 Рік тому +20

    Kenny’s face at 17:34
    Man… watching people react to this episode never gets old
    Welcome to the club guys

  • @baeleth
    @baeleth Рік тому +37

    One of the few things that makes me sad about Brotherhood is that it came out soon enough after the original FMA that they kind of had to sprint through the stuff that was the same as in the original show. This and one other moment you have yet to see are powerful here, but I do think they're more impactful in the original, as a little more time is spent with the characters and stories in the original show.
    I do highly recommend watching that version as well some day, even if you just watch it on your own.

    • @AStrangeWindmill
      @AStrangeWindmill Рік тому +14

      Yeah. This was a quick intro, but in 03 you had multiple episodes with the Tucker family. Shou was a wise and helpful guide. Nina and Alexander were a source of much needed comfort for the boys.
      It wasn't just bad because of how ghoulish it is. You _thought those characters were going to be around_

  • @Kaempfdog
    @Kaempfdog Рік тому +24

    This episode…isn’t just a brief trauma moment. You will have full blown PTSD of this depending on how you empathize. There are memes of people laughing when they put wigs on dogs. And FMA fans just go into meltdown mode by the memory. It’s HORRIFIC.
    What Shou Tucker did was actually not human transmutation. Because what the brothers did was try to bring something that no longer existed back. There was no fair equivalent so a BUNCH of complicated facets all occurred at once. At the end of the day, the brother’s sacrifice does still average them out to normal people. (Mainly because despite their genius and abilities, they are both traumatized to the core) Also what they lose is often something they took for granted with their decision. Their initial desire was completely squashed. But what they want back is particularly what they took for granted and lost for their sacrifice.
    Nina and Alexander on the other hand were both alive, and their same chemical makeup was used to fuse the two of them. What you say about averaging the intelligence and other aspects does make sense. It’s like finding the mean of a set of numbers. You add it all up and divide by the amount of numbers to get the average. But when you do that, without the EXACT set of numbers, you can’t exactly know what numbers went into the average. And putting it in terms of a child and a dog is WAY more screwed up. Because Tucker didn’t even pay a price for it and that’s why he was perfectly ok with doing it AGAIN. He did ABSOLUTELY deserve to go straight to hell. FMA 03…actually took an even darker approach. This episode was a full arc.
    Also…as terrible as it is that Nina died, I’m happy she did now. I know the context that a chimera is actually in CONSTANT torturous pain like Nina’s form and the lion reptile bird from the last episode. And Nina being a child, was MUCH more oblivious to it all compared to the wife Chimera which starved itself as the fastest way to put itself down.
    And finally we got the murderer. What he did was kinda complex to say, but I’ll just say what happens to his victims. They are blown inside out. The blood in that guy’s body was pressurized to the point of exploding out of every containment in his body bursting from the skin. An instantaneous death, but BRUTAL to look at. It’s like the ultimate stroke. There’s even more details but that’ll be relevant later.

  • @Sage8981
    @Sage8981 Рік тому +38

    A lot of people are on the fence with this show, but after this episode, I feel we can all come together. :)

  • @nickh3205
    @nickh3205 Рік тому +9

    What a light hearted adventure show following two brothers on they’re adventures

  • @shawnkurtz4424
    @shawnkurtz4424 11 місяців тому +3

    Montana: Its good to see happiness in a show.
    Shou Tucker: Are you sure about that?

  • @haydenberends3905
    @haydenberends3905 Рік тому +133

    This episode feels a lot like Avatar's The Puppetmaster to me.
    Starts off normal enough, introducing a new character who lures the audience into a false sense of safety, until it pulls the rug COMPLETELY out from under them in the third act and ends on the dourest note possible 😨😰
    Edit: If it's any comfort, the show never gets quite this dark again.

    • @ryuhitsuya21
      @ryuhitsuya21 Рік тому +8

      It's a matter of perspective really

    • @Chris-ks4sw
      @Chris-ks4sw Рік тому +5

      What do you mean completely out from under you? In that episode of Avatar it was pretty obvious there was something messed up with the lady. In the FMA Brotherhood version its just the one episode and hes shown to be suspicious the entire time. Only in the original anime is it less obvious.

    • @novashy7119
      @novashy7119 Рік тому +1

      Riiiiight

    • @haydenberends3905
      @haydenberends3905 6 місяців тому

      ​@@Chris-ks4swMaybe so, but once we learned her backstory of being stolen from the Southern Water Tribe, we (or, at least, I) started to trust her.

    • @Chris-ks4sw
      @Chris-ks4sw 6 місяців тому

      @@haydenberends3905 really? that made me more suspicious.

  • @charlesroseman9466
    @charlesroseman9466 Рік тому +8

    I also thought when he said "Wario" he was listing out names that would be beautiful if they didn't already mean anything lmfaoooo

  • @christophtoifl6848
    @christophtoifl6848 Рік тому +61

    On the who is worse, Grisha or Tucker Front:
    I can easily see Tucker doing every bad stuff that Grisha did, but Grisha would NEVER do to his wife or his kids what Tucker did!

    • @kool1joe
      @kool1joe Рік тому +28

      I would also say that Grisha didn’t do things out of a selfish motivation. I don’t think they’re very comparable tbh.

    • @YouAnd_OnlyYou
      @YouAnd_OnlyYou Рік тому +2

      Have yall watched Invincible?

    • @ninototo1
      @ninototo1 Рік тому +3

      @@YouAnd_OnlyYou nolan is a chad

    • @Flamerunner451
      @Flamerunner451 Рік тому +11

      Grisha and Tucker aren’t comparable at all lol where did this come from

    • @kool1joe
      @kool1joe Рік тому +1

      @@Flamerunner451 forreal IDK where the comparison came from other than this comment. I don't remember them comparing the two in the video, maybe I missed it?

  • @KorAsek453
    @KorAsek453 Рік тому +12

    The term is transmute, not transmutate. Also, when they talk about the "laws" of alchemy, they are talking about scientific/natural laws, like gravity, not societal laws. Human transmutation isn't a taboo because it's not "allowed", it's because it violates those natural laws and thus the attempt itself always has negative results, like what happened to Ed and Al.
    Ed didn't say there is no god, he said "WE are not gods", referring to alchemists.

  • @zuralani1
    @zuralani1 Рік тому +27

    While FMA:B follows the manga closely, the 2003 FMA branched off at a certain point since the manga wasn't finished. That being said, the earlier plot lines were still accurate. Rather than making an exact copy of the first couple dozen episodes, Brotherhood shortened a lot of the early stuff. If you thought having this all in one episode was bad, imagine having several episodes to grow attached to the characters.

    • @m00nd0ggie13
      @m00nd0ggie13 Рік тому +8

      I really wish people who watch FMA:B will check out at least a few of the iconic episodes of 2003 FMA. That scene with Cornello and Rose and Ed ripping off his jacket to show off his arm is much more dramatic. And that's not the only scene that has more intensity in the 2003 version. It's important bc these encounters stay with the Elric brothers throughout their journey and while we can see why in FMA:B I think FMA had more emotional depth.

    • @elheber
      @elheber Рік тому +3

      The best order to watch FMA is to watch the original show up to any episode before it begins to deviate from the manga, then transfer over to Brotherhood to continue from there.

    • @astemirabazekhov9005
      @astemirabazekhov9005 Рік тому +2

      Stop spreading misinformation. The Brotherhood didn't cut the first 12 episodes in any way. All they missed was the chapter with the train and the Yoki. In all other respects, FMAB practically follows the manga frame by frame. Especially in episode 4.
      The excellent quality of the episodes of FMA 03 that cover the manga is solely the merit of the writers of FMA 03. If we compare the beginning of the manga and FMA 03, then the manga is as clumsy as the episodes of FMAB, except that the manga is a medium where such a slightly fragmentary pace is justified and organic.

    • @Kickinthescience
      @Kickinthescience Рік тому +1

      @@astemirabazekhov9005 Tucker and Major Hughes storyline is definitely better in the original

  • @CrazeeAdam
    @CrazeeAdam Рік тому +6

    The cool thing about FMA is that it does balance super serious things with lighter animation and funny episodes too. Does a very good job at balancing both. :)

  • @Mr.2Dirty
    @Mr.2Dirty Рік тому +8

    Congratulations, you two. You have now taken the first step towards being a FMA fan. There will be more pain to come, but for now, be proud you have made it to the infamous Episode 4.

    • @joshuafischer684
      @joshuafischer684 Рік тому

      I skip this episode every time I rewatch the show. It's one of the only things I'll do that with.

  • @pedrocaravela7665
    @pedrocaravela7665 Рік тому +11

    Dude, I was traumatized by this episode for a long time, I even spoke about it when I went through a psychologist for a while, and it still haunts me to this day. On a brighter note, I would love to see you reacting to My Hero Academia, I bet Montana would be quite interested in the discussions that anime brings.

  • @Sophie-mv7bd
    @Sophie-mv7bd Рік тому +7

    You were spot on with ed and al 's motives in that ed is much more concerned about getting al his body back and isn't too worried about his arm and leg

    • @nilexinator5901
      @nilexinator5901 Рік тому +3

      they think a prothesis shouldnt bother ed and he is fine. that is a pretty spotn on judgement for people who lost limbs :D

  • @GCLU
    @GCLU Рік тому +2

    The cow goes moo, the sheep goes baa, the cat goes meow...the dog goes Ed...Ward.

  • @TriXJester
    @TriXJester Рік тому +9

    There's really one good dad in this show when you really think about it.

    • @AStrangeWindmill
      @AStrangeWindmill Рік тому +5

      Arakawa forgot she slipped in one family unit unmarked by trauma and had to expunge it before the second season.

  • @rumfordc
    @rumfordc Рік тому +6

    Your body is not "you" and that's why an alchemist can change their body without violating equivalent exchange. The soul specifically is what is outside of the alchemist's control. The word "Alchemy" had very real application in the distant past. Ancient Egypt was called "Khem" and they had a "study of change" which came to be called Alchemy. Alchemy was a universal science of sorts that included material, mental, and spiritual change. Over time we've become increasingly materialistic and so only the material connotations (turning low matter, like lead, into higher matter, like gold) are recognized. This materialist subset became what we now call Chemistry but Psychiatry, for example, would also qualify as a form of alchemy. Obviously it's not like what is portrayed in the show but hopefully it explains the inspiration behind it to an extent.

  • @yanksrule4me
    @yanksrule4me Рік тому +8

    Imagine watching the 2003 version of this. FMAB spends half an episode with Shou Tucker’s family. The original builds a lot more rapport between the Elric Brothers, Nina and Alexander, and the show really gut punches you at the end.

  • @ch4r_
    @ch4r_ Рік тому +24

    ah yes, the introduction of the most hated character in anime ever. despite only being in ONE episode he managed to make people so angry and it's beautiful how it shows the greatness of the writing of this show/manga.

    • @m00nd0ggie13
      @m00nd0ggie13 Рік тому +9

      I feel like there's more impact in FMA 2003 bc we spend more time with the family. I feel like they assume most people saw that version and so they sped through the intro episodes to get to the meat of the story. It sucks bc the same studio animated both versions.

    • @diegosotomiranda4107
      @diegosotomiranda4107 Рік тому +2

      @@m00nd0ggie13 tbh i don't think it was needed as we can see how most people react to this chapters anyway, nobody seeing this for The first time said "well it could be worse of we have more chapters to know them", it didn't need more than one episode, Even if You didn't know nina and alexander names You would be horrified seing a person doing that to a kid and her dog, let alone her own father, that did to his wife too, is just the never ending discussion of fma vs fmab, but again, first time watchers proved almost unanimously that 1 ep was enough to gave this impact

    • @ch4r_
      @ch4r_ Рік тому +2

      @@m00nd0ggie13 i really honestly thought brotherhood managed to do justice to the story and still make you hate him in such a short amount of time too.

  • @grantharriman284
    @grantharriman284 Рік тому +5

    The eyeglasses movement (a trope referred to as "megane" in japanese) is not ALWAYS a bad thing. The main character in Log Horizon does it constantly... and I just remembered his FRIENDS gave him the nickname "Villain Behind Glasses"...

  • @zzzzzz9089
    @zzzzzz9089 Рік тому +8

    The soundtrack of this episode has this tragic beauty to it that just really ties the whole thing together for me. It feels like a tragic tale in al and Ed's story that really sets the damn tone for the show

  • @J10969
    @J10969 Рік тому +6

    Man I’m going to hell for laughing maniacally at their reaction. 😂😂😂 literally every time they’d say something positive/feel good I’d laugh hysterically and say “just you wait”. 💀

    • @uksoloz
      @uksoloz Рік тому +1

      Same bro 😂🍿

  • @marbleherogaming735
    @marbleherogaming735 Рік тому +3

    You love to see the shared bond between a young girl and her dog

  • @thelostcompass1320
    @thelostcompass1320 11 місяців тому +1

    This show was amazing at hiding the monsters, and revealing them perfectly, this anime was always top notch.

  • @djordjejovanovic4540
    @djordjejovanovic4540 Рік тому +1

    "sad all the time, and it never gets better"

  • @MailManGaming1166
    @MailManGaming1166 Рік тому +2

    Ed isn't fighting for himself he's fighting for Al and vice versa

  • @ryuu6117
    @ryuu6117 8 місяців тому +1

    it's been years, this episode still horrifies me. this portrayed powerlessness so much that it gives you nightmares, it scarred the brothers so much.

  • @calvingilbert1771
    @calvingilbert1771 Рік тому +4

    In the 2003 version this part of the story took place at the same time when ed was taking the state alchemist exams and it was a bit slower paced so you didn’t expect it at ALL since you didn’t see the creepy shots of tucker . Horrific

  • @vpersona177
    @vpersona177 Рік тому +2

    Famous last words: "It's good to see happiness in an anime" - Kenny 2022

  • @masonpallanes7258
    @masonpallanes7258 Рік тому +5

    Episode 3 explained what evil emerges through religious dogma and Ed and Al are seen as the voices of science and logic when they exposed the priest. In this episode that dynamic is flipped by Tuckers horrifically clinical and morally bankrupted acts against his own family all in the name of science and "Human progression." these 2 episodes are displaying both extremes of faith and logic. Fervent blind faith will lead to people off a cliff and cold logic has no concept of morality or emotion, allowing terrible deeds to be committed all in the name of knowledge and "progression".
    what I think the show was telling us last Episode is:" it's ok to believe in something, but make sure it is logical and obtainable." and in this Episode I think it's message is something like " it is wise to peruse knowledge for humanity, just make sure you don't lose what makes you human." Father Cornello used the emotions and the stone to make them believe a falsehood in order to fulfill his agenda. Shou Tucker used his family ( his closets test subjects) to continue his research in Bio-Alchemy so he could contribute to science without any remorse or regret. Even worse, he tries to justify his actions by comparing his own human transmutations with Edward's showing Tucker is capable of mental manipulation. If he was willing to do this to his own flesh and blood, I don't want to even think about what he would have continued without Ed and Al's intervention. Man this stuff was so traumatizing watching this when I was 10.

  • @AStrangeWindmill
    @AStrangeWindmill Рік тому +3

    The thing about what Tucker said to Ed is that while they aren't the same _now_ , When the elrics did human transmutation, they were.
    The difference between them is how they processed the aftermath, but they got there with the same arrogance and lack of respect for life, and Ed knows it.

  • @odotawaissaku3755
    @odotawaissaku3755 Рік тому +2

    Holy crap. I've seen this 3 times before so I knew what was coming but.... I still seriously cried my mf'ing eyes out. "Edward... no. Daddy. Do you... hurt Daddy?" omfgggg 😭😭😭

  • @jakobnunez4964
    @jakobnunez4964 Рік тому +3

    I believe all the people he possibly transmuted or transformed are in pain.

  • @midoriya-shonen
    @midoriya-shonen Рік тому +3

    I'm terrible for looking forward to this as much as I did lol.
    But that's because of the severe emotional impact the episode has the power to inflict. When I first saw it I was in complete shock. I had to set down my computer and go walk a lap around my dorm building, then sit in silence for a while before returning to my room. I couldn't even cry. Rewatching it with you guys, I could feel how elevated my heart rate was. It truly is one of the most powerful episodes of anime of all time.

  • @ohmygodfrey
    @ohmygodfrey Рік тому +4

    I love this community, the first Episode Verdict question just “are you ok?” 😭😭😭

  • @Duckkis
    @Duckkis Рік тому +1

    This was on the front page when I came to check what's going on in UA-cam, and so I decided to give this a go. I'm liking what I'm seeing and hearing, so I think I'm going to go back to the beginning and see your reactions to every episode. Good stuff!

  • @Satadru74x9
    @Satadru74x9 Рік тому +1

    I just realised why Bond from Spy x Family looked familiar...he kinda looks like Alexander from Full Metal Alchemist...

  • @brianblankenship4840
    @brianblankenship4840 Рік тому

    I've never been more excited for reactions than I am with these two. The dissections and theories are so interesting to listen to. I cannot WAIT to see what more you guys react to❤️

  • @benhendricks8404
    @benhendricks8404 Рік тому +1

    And here at the end... it never gets easier to watch. I hope y'all are ready cuz the series has shown its hand, get ready for the long haul. So excited to experience all the emotional highs and lows this show has to offer with you guys

  • @collinhamilton6490
    @collinhamilton6490 Рік тому

    Watched this show earlier this year. Binged it all so fast but this episode stuck with me. So dark and sad. Also you get the intro to my favorite character, Scar! He is so dope

  • @salehmd9666
    @salehmd9666 Рік тому +4

    One of the most horrifying episodes in anime world , and Shou Tucker still one of the most hated characters in anime , but this is just the beginning be ready for next actions in this legendary anime 🔥🔥

  • @jarrettenaope7038
    @jarrettenaope7038 Рік тому +1

    Super sad so...at an anime Con..there was a T shirt Featuring The daughter and Dog doing the DBZ fusion in front of an Alchemist Circle and I was Like No😖😢

  • @BlacKOuT21255
    @BlacKOuT21255 Рік тому

    this production quality is crazy. Just came here for a quick reacc and got the red carpet rolled out for me

  • @roselily20062
    @roselily20062 Рік тому +1

    “Awww, that’s nice!” You poor soul

  • @ohghee
    @ohghee Рік тому +1

    You keep saying "transmutated" and I get chalk board scratching chills every time xD TRANSMUTED, things are transmuted :)

  • @GeraltOfArabia
    @GeraltOfArabia Рік тому

    This episode shook me to my core. I couldn’t believe what I was watching. Hooked till the end.

  • @froeloe
    @froeloe Рік тому +4

    I’m very happy you’re watching Full Metal Alchemist (FMA). Lots of interesting discussions that Montana and Kenny can talk about in this anime. I especially enjoy Montana’s psych-related analyses.
    Death Note (DN) would also provide lots of opportunities to analyze and talk about. I’m glad Demon Slayer (DS) didn’t win the vote. Its story style is very straightforward, and there’s really not much to talk about its episodes as compared to FMA or DN. _(And for DS, Zenitsu’s and Inosuke’s constant over-the-top yelling and exaggerated over-expressive screaming dialogs personally gets tiring after some time)._
    I hope you will still eventually watch DN.

  • @jakobnunez4964
    @jakobnunez4964 Рік тому +1

    One of my favorite things to do is watch people's first reaction to this episode.

  • @user-up7gk7sv9t
    @user-up7gk7sv9t Рік тому

    Just one thing that I want to say I love your channel

  • @Gabilo911
    @Gabilo911 Рік тому

    Hello guys. I truly love your reactions and wish you both the best 😁.
    To answer your question about Ed's body, the more you think it you realize it's worse to have prosthetic metal limbs. for example, in the sun light the prosthetics could heat a lot and burn the skin, or in the rain accumulate water and predispose to infections, or in the winter frozen up and burn the skin... plus the weight in the sides would probably give back pains... and finally it's a constant reminder of what they did...
    I hope you keep watching and enjoying this show. Have a great day.

  • @jakobnunez4964
    @jakobnunez4964 Рік тому +1

    I like how the dad is voiced by professor stein from soul eater because he reminded me a lot of Stein.

  • @benhendricks8404
    @benhendricks8404 Рік тому +1

    This is the episode I've been waiting for. This is the episode where the series truly shows you what it is and how horrific the world they're in can be. Haven't watched the ep through yet but PHEW AM I EXCITED TO SHED TEARS TOGETHER

  • @lucimitchell6965
    @lucimitchell6965 11 місяців тому +1

    The straight up contemplation of how could you undo that it just can't be done every day I thought of it and it just can't happen so depressing

  • @ayzsh65
    @ayzsh65 Рік тому +2

    whenever I recommend this series, I always mention that this episode will make or break you on the anime. either it makes you fully invested into the now building story or makes you not wanna see what else is in store after seeing the bad dad's deed.

  • @danielep.4076
    @danielep.4076 Рік тому +1

    horrifying, monstrous, and such a powerful episode. i love the uneasy light with which they protray tucker for most of the ep. you know something is very wrong with him but you cant tell what, and he seems to love his daughter...

  • @S3r4fin0
    @S3r4fin0 Рік тому

    Such a tragic episode. love your videos, guys! :D

  • @attackduck9768
    @attackduck9768 Рік тому +1

    I was waiting for this one 😂 plus that other one we don’t need to mention just yet 😂

  • @kamilpalka7837
    @kamilpalka7837 Рік тому

    I LOVE YALLS REACTIONS SM

  • @tonywalker1954
    @tonywalker1954 Рік тому

    10:06 I absolutely love how you guys use the fair use timers on your reaction just subscribed looking forward to watching your reactions 😍

  • @FenixNade
    @FenixNade Рік тому +1

    so many good memes regarding Nina/Alexander, but I think the best one I saw was a re-envisioned cover of Animal Crossing showing them two hugging

  • @Lupinemancer87
    @Lupinemancer87 Рік тому +2

    If you are not into this series by the time you get to this episode, this will be the point you are comletely invested.

  • @pabloesco2007
    @pabloesco2007 Рік тому

    This episode was so so good and dark. The music was amazing too.

  • @violetkerridge4154
    @violetkerridge4154 Рік тому +2

    *understatement of the bloody century*

  • @wardgrove1071
    @wardgrove1071 Рік тому +7

    The iron blood alchemist was the one who died not the guy who killed him

  • @blackfalconotaku4392
    @blackfalconotaku4392 Рік тому

    25 more minutes! I can't wait to see your reactions!

  • @Johnistrying
    @Johnistrying Рік тому +3

    Don’t know about y’all but my eyes were definitely pouring rain when I first watched this episode. This is one of the darkest moments in the series. And this is the short version, the other series had Nina and Alexander in a couple episodes which made you fall in love with their characters, then this happen.

  • @darkshadow5581
    @darkshadow5581 Рік тому +1

    10:05 I'm fairly certain the problem with human transmutation is what allows alchemy at all. "The law of equivalent exchange" dictates you need to trade in equal amounts, and as the second episode said, what could possibly equal that of a human soul? The Elric Brother's offered some of their blood as exchange for the human soul, and you know how well that ended up.

  • @gabecajamarca
    @gabecajamarca Рік тому +1

    Whenever I’m gonna do something difficult I sigh, take a look at what I gotta do then just get to it. Knowing what’s going to happen in this episode is always that feeling

  • @briant.5108
    @briant.5108 Рік тому +1

    the voice actor for Scar is the same guy who voiced Erwin in aot!

  • @TheDragiix3
    @TheDragiix3 Рік тому +1

    "It's good to see happiness in an anime!" 😂