Gary and Micah React To Southgate Resigning
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Who should be the next England manager? Does it matter if they are English or not? What will Gareth Southgate’s legacy be?
Gary and Micah react to the news that Southgate is stepping down as England boss after 8 years and discuss what that means for the future.
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Apparently when Southgate handed in is resignation to the FA they passed it back to him, he passed it to Bellingham who passed it sideways to Kane who passed it back to stones who passed it back to the keeper. 😂😂
😅brilliant
@@eastlondon666 I stole it 😂😂
Love it 😂🤣😝
hahahahaha genius
Haha they reversed out forward by the end of the whistle.
"Gerrard didn't get enough time at Villa." Switched off. 😂
I know lol
Bloke came in alienated the squad by isolating Mings then went headlong towards relegation. Then a proper coach gets the same players into the champions league.
@@beefsuprem0241sometimes the English coaches get too much protection
My thoughts exactly!!
As a villa fan, I’d rather take Pulis rather than another experience with Gerrard
@@lukewoollard4011 I'd take Warnock, hell, I'd take Harry Maguire as manager over Gerrard.
Gerrard was sending us straight back down with his clueless tactics.
Can't ever convince me that Lampard doesn't have some sort of paid PR, he's done absolutely nothing in his career to still have the reputation he has to the point he's getting England manager shouts, one of the worst to ever manage in the premier league.
Jesus, I didn't think we could get a downgrade but this would be one for sure.
But he’s got two GCEs in maths and art!
@@rogerioceni2640Only Fools and Horses 😅😅😂
@@Ghh77788Yes, that’s literally what I’m taking the piss out of. Well done.
He's 46 so in fairness he's done a lot more than some top managers of the same age. Mica was right, because of their name players like Rooney, Gerrard and Lampard are rushed into big jobs. They should be working on coaching teams or managing lower down until they've got the experience
"Steven gerard wasn't given a chance at Villa" - what a load of tosh. He nearly got us relegated. Emery turned us around within weeks of replacing him.
Players don't make good managers at all.
Emery would be nice for England!!
@@LukeSkywalker-io2bh exceptions exist to every rule
@@cyn1clcynide So we should continue employing footballers as managers based on the reasoning that one good one may come along after 10,000? That's exactly the reasoning behind why we don't win anything. Nepotism lost us this Euros. It's destroying football.
Do NOT go down the route of saying Gerrard didn't get much of a chance at Villa. He was there for a year, allowed to bring in his own players and staff and apart from the first 6 weeks we were going backwards. First day of the new season he dropped Watkins, Douglas Luiz, Mings and Buendia - subsequently losing to Scott Parker's newly promoted Bournemouth. Then Emery comes in and takes the same squad (utilising those 4 as key players) from 17th to 7th in 6 months. He's dreadful and had to run to Saudi to get a job.
Thank you! I do wonder how friendships get in the way of their punditry sometimes. They going to say Rooney has never been given enough time next?
As a passionate Villa fan, the Gerrard tenure led to some of my darkest football days…
Yes, I also said a similar thing here. Gerrard had me fooled until Emery absolutely showed him up
I was shaking my head when his mates said the sacking was harsh after Fulham.
That 3-0 loss at Craven Cottage was the biggest victory I've seen since we lifted the league cup in 96.
They've ALWAYS protected Gerrard. Remember Euro 2004 when Gerrard backpassed DIRECTLY to Thierry Henry and the ex Liverpool posse of Hansen and Lawrenson blamed David James (!) for not dealing with it? Remember the world cup where Gerrard missed heading the long ball and the Beeb blamed Jagielka for not anticipating Gerrard not doing his job?
Frank Lampard as England manager?!!! Please tell me he was standing behind the cameraman with a loaded gun pointing at your heads when you said that?
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
There are several pundits/commentators calling for Lampard to become England manager.
@@davidsmith9440 Because they're all friends, he's been a pundit with them before
@@johnthebomb06 Having Lineker wanting Lampard as manager should instantly bar him.
Switching off if I hear you guys endorse Frank Lampard 😂
Welp, switch off.. Gary is being paid to keep saying his name I reckon. Dreadful manager
@@czhaok can’t believe he said Gerrard didn’t get enough time at villa 😂
@@sheslying7117 😮 I haven't got to that part yet.. jesus christ
@@czhaok I think it's more realistic that he spent time with Lampard on air and behind the scenes, and warmed to him and his insight into football and management. He can have his own opinion, however odd it sounds to us viewers. Lampard hasn't got the results, so I wouldn't be hopeful, but who knows.
@@Yewchewb Honestly, I don't think either Gerrard or Lampard are the right men for the job, but they're both better qualified and more successful as coaches than Southgate was with even more senior international experience as a player to boot.
I think there's some value in having a former international at the helm even if they aren't the best coach... I mean look how close Southgate got to glory with very little senior coaching experience, some defensive structure and pure squad vibes 😂
I really hope the FA are not stupid enough to go for Lampard or Gerrard.
Tbh ,I am Irish and I feel ye Pick the right manager ye have a big chance on winning the world Cup, ye seriously have a brilliant squad ,tbh Gareths down fall was not playing players that were in form ,palmer and Watkins is it? Showed what they can do kane is great but you need to play in form players ,this generation ye have alot of experience now 2 finals in 2 euros
Sir Alf dropped his injured star striker in 1966. Gareth didn't. Bosses win cups not players. Just like chefs cook meals not waiters. Get Klopp as he is affordable (earning £0.0 per yr). Pep is earning £20M & Carlo £15M & Jose £10M & Conte £10M. Klopp will accept Gareths £5M per yr as JK does not want to work fulltime.
Gary saying he'd be more than comfortable with frank lampard in charge of england is mental.
He would be exactly the same as Southgate. Great for players and fans but not for results so
@@banjobuster9068southgate is streets ahead of lampard
Nah Southgate being a defender all he knew how to do was get them to defend id say lampard would be better in that respect@@banjobuster9068
Anyone who’s got an IQ above 150 as Lampard has, isn’t stupid. There’s no doubt he has the potential, but does he have the experience? I think he needs to prove himself first. Maybe England could offer him some other job in the FA and learn the ropes. Then perhaps next time.
@@Nick.Martin.Having high IQ doesn’t mean anything regarding football management though. High IQ isn’t even a statistic relevant to intelligence. It just means he can process information slightly better than others. Academically he may be gifted but this doesn’t mean it will translate to a dug out.
Recent history has proven this already with Lampards stint at Chelsea/Derby/Everton
He left England in a miles better position. We just need a manager who can make that last step.
Had so many brilliant nights out watching England now, hope it continues. Cheers Gareth 🏴
That's true. Southgate did a great job, and there were MANY good moments. But now I hope they can convince Klopp
by the ream england makes the next steep , France Germany Italy Spain Portugal will all improve
@@AbdelhadiIskizzi Of course. But what else can you do?
@@Joraki591amen to that!! Klopp is the right man for the job...
@@Joraki591convince a German to be an England manager OK THEN 👍 good luck with that.
From North Carolina with not many friends that watch football, it’s good to have a podcast like this! Thanks guys!
You might wanna check out Stick To Football and Under the Cosh
Here in Boston. You're not the only one
Nice to have you here my American cousins
it gets even better when they go home
Nobody cares where you are from
One of the best things about the Euros was finding this Podcast!!
Sitting back, inviting pressure, riding our luck and hoping for magic moments isn’t the way to play football when you are England.
If only Kane stopped playing a CDM in important games. And of course the quality of crossing for England has uncharacteristically dipped.
Fast paced wingers should be able to cross, not just run.
What do you mean "when you are england" is that our football heritage? High pressing, attacking, winning football? We've always been the same
1 trophy in our history suggests otherwise. We ain't as good as people make out.
@@hyywe240 We should aspire to be a direct, dynamic, creative, relentless and ruthless team. We have the players but zero identity or style of play. They haven’t been coached properly at International level.
@@hyywe240 We set up like we’re Scotland. Minnows who happy to be there and lucky and thankful to get through every game.
My choice would be Lee Carsley. He has tournament football experience winning the under 21 Euros playing good football, and has helped build the culture of the england setup which is as strong as its ever been in my lifetime. Were in a great position and we dont need to change a lot, just play with more freedom which i think Lee can do. Other managers may be a risk with the lack of international football experience.
Completely agree
spot on, Spain have just won it by doing the same thing, the garbage from the media, including this pod about Pep Klopp Gerrard Lampard etc is ridiculous
Gerrard had a chance at Villa. Just wasn't good enough. Emery had the same team and got us in europe in half a season.
I never thought that 3-0 loss at Craven Cottage would be ine of our biggest wins but here we are.
UTV
Nice touch having the Roy Keane book on the shelf. Gary looks tiny, or has the biggest microphone I've seen😂
Glad to see the pod again, need some joy after Sunday! Keep it up lads!
Liz Truss would be a better choice than Lampard
Our attacking prowess was a joke. Tournament XG (without pens) was something like 23rd out of 24 teams. Staggeringly poor
Blame Harry Kane, the most trophy averse player in history.
Bottled a 2-0 chance v Croatia in 2018, bottled a pen v France in 2022, ghosted in two European finals, relegated Bayern to a trophyless season.
@@heppolohardly his fault that bayern didn’t win anything considering he averaged nearly a goal a game… leverkusen just happened to go unbeaten
And yet we finished 2nd out of 24 teams. Does that tell you something about the relevance of the XG stat?
You're both right, the XG was bad which reflects the misgivings I think everyone had about the style of play (i.e. not being able to break teams down), but a high XG isn't necessary to do well, particularly in a tournament that you can win by drawing every game (see Portugal's win).
Attacking prowess? It's not FIFA mate 😂
The fact that they keep trying to justify their criticism of England and Southgate every pod makes me think they were unfair. 😂😂
Can you elaborate on how Gerrard wasn’t given a chance at Villa? When he had ample time, significant investment only to get his team 16th in the league? And considering his successor with a squad 95% similar reached Europe and was 3rd in the league over his tenure?
This is the problem with ex pros analysing football. They’ll never be objective when it comes to their mates. Gerrard and Lampard are both absolutely terrible football managers.
The impression I got with their argument "X have got enough time"was that X hadn't got enough time to "learn and develop as a coach up through the levels" and that the were thrown directly into the top-level positions at once before having matured. But maybe I got it wrong.
Gary and Alan were the very first to call out Kane’s performance from early on and they got heavily criticised for it by the media - if people actually took two former legendary English strikers seriously then maybe things would be different
Kane will score goals all day long with the proper service into the box .. Kane will continue to score lots of goals
When Gary and Alan talk about what a striker does, then people should listen, these guys have done it in massive games. I always respect what they say!!
@@johnbarry1965 One bit of Gary I remember fondly was him saying something along "the reason that I'm not a pundit is because there are many aspects of football I don't understand like defending. But one thing I know is how to score and be a striker" - that must have been a discrete "sit down and shut up" to people complaining about his analysis of Kane...
@@leonjupe7152He would need to be in the box to score those goals, he was never in it enough this tournament. The way England tried to play, it did not need him in the team
@@johnbarry1965 they know the game for sure , 2 of my favourite players . But they have forgotten what it was like to play for England and the ridiculous animosity and unrealistic expectations put on them by the "media" .. supporting the team certainly whilst their in the competition would have made a huge difference , maybe even the difference between winning and losing... the haters can't understand that
Steven Gerrard didn't get enough time?! My god, the English bias is embarrassing
given any more time and Villa would have been relegated, an abysmal manager, no man management skills and didn't do any coaching
yh coz if hed have stayed at villa he was clearly on track for 4th
English bias? They're talking about the England team. Plant pot. 🤷♂️
@@andrewherbert7108 engage your brain
Surely there *should* be an English bias when discussing potential *England* managers!? 😂
"These managers just need time" - so go earn it at the lower leagues first, earn your stripes don't expect to walk into top Premier League clubs!
It's mental that you guys caught so much heat for telling the truth on the pod during the Euros.
Time for England to grow up and be accountable.
Football is a meritocracy.
Meritocracy lol, you won't be seeing us in two finals again for a VERY long time. We're going to go backwards without Southgate.
@@wifterofabifterwe’ll never win with Southgate
@@wifterofabifter thats going be hard do ,
Under southgate if we passed backwards anymore the fans behind pickfords goal will be having a kick about not the starting 11 .
He failed in the premier league , failed in the championship & failed at international level . He is a nice man doesn't make him a winner though
@@wifterofabifter 🤣🤣🤣 Two lost finals is an achievement for you? 🤣🤣🤣 You need to set your goals a bit higher mate 🤣🤣🤣
We had the easiest journey to the finals. Suddenly forget Gareth strange obsession having an unfit kane play every game? Celebrate he's gone and now people can focus on the FA. They pick bad, lets get an independant review and get rid of the ''Old boys club'' FA. All our players are professional and hungry.
Gareth Southgate a good & proud English man 👏👏👏👏👏. Thank you Gareth
Bob Mortimer for the England's manager. He knows a thing or two about football and we would get the opposition so confused.
😂😂😂
Tubby Brewster up front.
I was thinking Mike Bassett 😂
@@marttyler2569 I'd love Mike Bassett but he's too old unfortunately 😁
I'd love that 😂😂😂
FFS we've just managed to get rid of Southgate and these jokers start calling for Frank fucking LAMPARD or GERRARD!?
FFS, cmon guys, you're better than that.
A manager who knows how to win would be nice
Minimum requirement should be winning the FA cup. I'd like to see some of the old managers that have done that, like Harry Redknapp, coaching the young English managers. Until then, I hope Klopp gets the job.
Like Fabio capello?
Won't find that among English managers, and unfortunately England as a nation seems hell-bent on getting someone English, even if the better options are from elsewhere...
Get Southgate back in then
If we're not producing coaches of good enough quality in England then go for somebody like a Klopp or Poch. Personally I think Klopp would be perfect.
Klopp is the calibre of manager England need. Proven winners at the highest level. I'm sick of seeing people picked just because they're English or were a former England player. We need people who can get the team over the line not ones who have nothing to show for themselves as managers.
I think Gareth got his redemption for the penalty miss by finally giving the squad the confidence to perform well, consistently, in the shoot outs in the last few tournaments.
There is no need to stick to an English manager. We just had foreign coaches within our england setup (Hasslebank etc) England's women won with a Swede, Did we see supporters less patriotic when Beckham struck that free kick to get us through, while managed under Sven? no. Jack Charlton was admired as Ireland manager. Someone like Klopp would bring so much passion, doing his 5 fist punch to english crowd after a win, players love him too, attacking, exciting football that will win us a cup.
I doubt Klopp would accept it. He was worn out from the Liverpool job and you really think the same wouldn’t happen with the England job? Especially if he couldn’t get England to play his high pressing energy game and win a major trophy. He might not even return to management. If he did he would more likely accept to manage the German national team.
Sarina Wiegman is Dutch, but otherwise I think it's a good point.
@@godfreemorals u got there 1st. My thoughts exactly.
We need an English manager for sure
England didn't just lose to Iceland in 2016, they lost to Iceland this year under Southgate.
Friendlies don't really count tbh
@@heppolo I know, but it's an awful result before a tournament. Can't be the best until we comfortably win these type of games
@@jimi1is3kingArgentina lost to Saudi Arabia in their first game of the World Cup. It’s kind of irrelevant.
@@rogerioceni2640Argentina battered Saudi in that game, totally different type of performance
@@Youafool500 Yet still lost
The comments that were aired on these pods were absolutely justified from all of you guys. You spoke the truth and we're saying it as it is just like any other England fan on the planet. 100% keep doing and saying as it is lads, that's why we all watch this. 👍 . UTB. 🔴⚪
Only one man for this job Mike Bassett
Lol.
No can do. He's working for Ajax. Not the football team, the scouring powder.
Seeing Josh Benson and Ryan Hedges in the squad would be a backward step I'd say...
Good job Southgate doesn't smoke or we would have had Benson,Hedges and a John Player in the squad😂
Three cheers for ramirez
Before Southgate’s arrival England had won only seven knockout games at tournaments since 1966. The team won nine during his tenure. That's all you need to know. Thank you Gareth! 👍
But still didn't win anything - it's like Pep coming second every season for 8 years - coming 2nd means nothing but a losers medal
Well said guys!! 👊👊
My pick is Lee Carsley as Caretaker Manager to cover the Nations League matches later this year. See how he goes whilst also looking at other candidates. I'm sure Lee would happily step in even though it might turn out to be temporary, as the experience would be invaluable, he would get a preview of what it's like to step up to that level, and if he wins us the Nations League (which we got relegated in under Southgate) and gets us promoted back to League A again, then he would certainly make a name for himself and make himself a top candidate for the longer term position. Promoting the U21 manager to the first team worked for Spain, maybe it will work for us. Lee also knows many if not all of the younger players and likely managed several too.
100%
Totally agree!
Usually love watching Micah for his comedy and laughing fits, but if we are not careful - blimey - may start to also listen for his sensible analysis 😊
I think our young english managers such as Lampard, Gerrard and Rooney, would really benefit working directly under a so called 'master' first - For example Arteta learnt a lot under Pep and now Arsenal are reaping the rewards. Gerrard could of worked under Klopp for a year or 2 as an example.
Their ego is unreal though😂 they would never humble themselves to learn from a true genius.
Even Pep and Mou learnt from van Gaal and Sir Bobby, Pep also learnt from Bielsa,Cruff etc. Klopp stole the entire gegenpress playbook from Ralf.
the golden generation that never won anything together....
in fairness Schteve Mclaren worked under fergie for years and look how well he did... admittedly did alright at club level but failed miserably with England.
That makes sense. New coaches who were great players should work under a great coach if possible for a few years. Arteta is a fine example. I would suspect they would learn more than meets the eye especially about the nuances of the game they may not have seen as a a player. Certainly class talent and coaching would produce just that. Maybe some great players are too big for their britches and have to get knocked down a peg or two in order to see the game as a good coach. What better way to learn that than working under Pep or Klop. And what about Graham Potter for next Eng manager?
I’m going to miss this podcast well done to all involved hopefully it will be back for the football season not only in England but in Europe
I personally would love to see Eddie Howe appointed, obviously pep or klopp are very appealing but probably unrealistic from both sides. I think they need to get someone in sooner rather than later, if Southgate’s style has been embedded into them at international level for the last 8 years, and we are now hopefully going to go for a front foot forward thinking coach, then he will need time to implement his style of play on the team as a whole, so would want them in for the next set of internationals in a couple of months time to get them working on it!
When Lampard was having a pop at Klopp on the touch line that he’d only won one league title (he won 2 with BD) and could F off , convinced me what a toss pot Lampard is when he’s won sweet FA as a manager.
Only did anything at Derby because he had half a team of prem loanees.
He was spot on though.
If we want an Englishman, it'll be Howe or Potter, Dyche is too "unfashionable"
The other options are the usual suspects, Poch & Tuchel. They get linked with every job
And the big, long shot choice is probably Klopp
Potter is a Championship manager at best. If he gets it we go backwards🙄
As an evertonian I had similar reservations about dyche but after seeing the amazing job he's done with what he has at everton, listening to him talk, watching his training sessions, seeing the players respond to his philosophy and the way he's managed to get the maximum from the players available, I'm glad he's still viewed as unfashionable as I now don't want him to leave everton!. He's a much better manager than he gets credit for.
@@cjgsicknoteI'd personally have no problems with Dyche mate. Underrated because he's English imo
Yeah I'm tired of boring defensive football, it's taken us as far as it possibly can. Let's get a manager who will get us playing attacking and exciting football like Sean dyche 😂😂😂
As a Chelsea fan I can’t see how Potter would be a good fit. He seemed to hate the pressure of being manager at Chelsea, England manager is far more pressurised
I liked Poch but I’m not sure he’ll have time to implement his style of football. It took Chelsea all season to even start to get it. Granted I think most of the England players are far better than the current Chelsea squad, but you don’t get to drill it on the training pitch week after week at international level
Tuchel was incredible as man manager and would be able to get results out of England immediately. But to be honest his style of play is still very pragmatic. It’s successful at getting teams over the line even when not the favourites, but it often isn’t that enjoyable to watch. If you want attacking football he’s probably not the right man either
Lampard and Gerrard are nowhere near experienced enough
Roy Keane was the most balanced ex footballer I heard talk sense in the whole tournament, even he pointed out ex players negativity towards Gareth even after getting us to 2 finals....
Hogwash.
England were a few seconds to being thrown out by Slovakia
They drew most of their games in the Euros.
They had great talent and should be thumping at least a couple of teams.
Southgate too cautious.. England went a goal behind almost every game.. with the players and squad they got.. its rubbish
@@farrelco they were also a few minutes off extra time in the final
@@forestsunset9617lol what do you win for reaching extra time
@@jonodunn2592 the chance to win
@@forestsunset9617 he was bringing more defenders on before they scored his plan was to bore the Spaniards to sleep and win pens good riddance
I deeply respect Southgate as a person. He helped make me proud to support England again. Sadly he was not a coach of the same calibre as the players at his disposal. He should have picked players that are fit and that play in their correct positions in a system he chooses. This means making tough decisions and its clear he could not make this step up. I wish him well and hope the FA make the right choice for the future.
Not his fault, he is by far the best of a bad bunch. England have never developed their coaching to the top level like other nations. They are decades behind coaching wise and in my mind is why they will never win anything.
@@All3cannons we are the first team to reach 2 consecutive Euro finals and lose both it is as if he/we didn't learn anything from the first time. I would say that is Gareth's fault that he could not learn on the job how to be better. Cant just blame the system he has had time to get better.
It’s interesting cos I think prior to this tournament he did just, picked players for a system, sterling and rashford etc to support Kane, this time he actually picked a squad people liked but couldn’t find a system for players
Too much focus on him as a nice, decent person ...we´re a sentimental country ok but recognise thats irrelevant ...people of this country start trying ( in sport ) to be more cut throat and ruthless ...not arguing for her to leave LIonesses...but even with a wishy washy, only half - talented group ( now and away from home advantage ) she comes across and leads with much more steely, convincing demeanour
@@All3cannons Yes
I would temporary offer lee Carsly(Under 21s Coach) the job, but, with a clause saying if Pep or Klopp becomes available, he would step aside to No.2 and assist and learn from a master tactician. If an English Coach, it has to be Eddie Howe or De Zerbie. We need a modern Coach who plays a high press, high tempo style of football that will suit our modern, young talented players. Gerrard and Lampard do not have the experience and should not be considered until they have Coached for 10-15 years.., put simply they are not good a good enough Coach on the world stage to take the England Job
eh what, "if an English Coach.... De Zerbie"? he's Italian. otherwise I agree with the overall sentiment.
Why is nobody talking about Gary O’Neil?
@demejiuk5660 don't watch much football I take it.
Who
I’m a Wolves fan and O’Neil is okay, the last 2 months or so was diabolical, I think we won like 1 of our last 10 games this coming season will be interesting to see how he develops, way way to early to even be in the conversation for England
@@Matthewpaul13 he’s a much better prospect than Lampard 😂
That’s kinda my point
If it’s Howe or Potter it might as well be Harry Potter. More years of mediocrity for what could be, in the right hands, potentially the most professionally and personally rewarding jobs that any manager could have and with a group of players who could get us over the line if led and managed by someone who can exploit their talents. No who I’d like but I’m not sure Klopp would take it. I’m sure that when we start the Qualification for the World Cup I will get up for it again but at the moment just having that post tournament deflation that we all know so well by now.
Why isn't David Moyes being considered? He's available and his integrity is second to none.
No chance 🏴
Gareth did his best bless him 4:35 /Klop for me 🤷♂️
Absolutley loved the pods over the Euros, the playful banter, jokes, insight and historical stories from the lads playing days. Beautiful. Hope to see more of them when the new season starts.
Thank you gareth for elevating england football and the way the media represents them. You have done a wonderful job but now its time for someone else to take us further
Not that hard to take us further really
a good comment. Gareth should only ever have been part of the coaching staff as he's clearly excellent at bringing the group together but tactically seems lacking.
@@JeremyBercowwinning the World Cup would be pretty hard you absolute plank
@@JeremyBercow hahaha that's such a stupid thing to say Jeremy 😂
Gerrard not getting a chance at villa is one of the maddest takes I've ever heard
It is a bit sad that there will be no Team GB at the Olympics football tournament which is basically the youth team world competition. After the U21 Euros win last year a good showing by the youth team would give fans a bit of hope for the future after Sunday's loss.
No English manager has ever won the Premier League, so why do we think we should have an English manager? Best person for the job each time.
Don’t need to win but must entertain. I want to see joy and no fear.
What a ridiculous statement. 99% of fans want to win trophies mate, despite how they play.
@@NH-bz9jv People only want the trophy. No one wants to get knocked out in finals playing boring defensive football when we have the talent to play on the front foot to win games outright like Spain do. I'd rather get knocked out playing positively in the qf or sf than knocked out in the final. Not to mention, Spain just won playing positive football so why can't we?
@@allbies we could play front foot football but that’s a different debate. MOST fans of club or national sides would rather their team win trophies DESPITE how they play. If you think different then trust me you are in the minority🙄🤣🙄
No. Need to win if you want to better Southgate. There is only one option for the new guy. Everyone said any manager would win with our squad...Well let's see if that's right
South gate gave us a dog in the fight. Before him the last manager to do that was Alf Ramsey. So thanks to Gareth for giving us that
yeah a losing dog. The well done for taking part even though you are gonna lose. Great.
Im a forest fan, having klopp would be a game changer. We'd be lucky to have him, however he did say he'd never coach in England again 😢
In England and for England are different
Don't blame him. He's got nothing to prove
would not manage a rival club against Liverpool was what he was referencing
@@timporter4008 some scousers would have you believe england national team is a rival club 💀💀
@@bobbydwheelhouse Agreed! Let's get Klopp on a technicality! Haha
Why not Shearer he had plenty to say on how they should've played.
Thanks GS I was given a wonderful memory when i spent the evening watching the euros final against Italy with my grandmother. One night i will never forget! ❤
Sorry for your loss
Lee Carsley has won trophies with England at U21 level and knows the setup, surely he would be the logical choice, rather than bringing in someone brand new? no?
Agree!
I would like you guys to talk a little about grass routes football. I manage a small team of children that play against others that don't focus on player development but winning games. How do you win games in grass routes at young age (U13 onwards)? Just bring together physically developed players, hammer everyone around and everyone loses: no player development on any side. Why do you think the Spanish players learnt to treat the ball like that? It's not about size, it's about technical quality.
Yes that's the English way lazy coaching
The FA surely have now invested in grass roots football (since around 2010). Isn’t that why we are now seeing a surge in gifted technical players who in the youth systems of England are winning various World Cups and Euro championships at below the age of 21 tournaments (under 17s to under 21s). I believe we have won 6 of them in the past 6years. That is astounding, but that needs to be translated to the main team.
@@Nick.Martin. Physical development, you just made my point.
@@mjcapinto Whatever it is, young England players are winning on the international stage. However you guage it, it is successful. I see Bellingham, Saka, Foden, Mainoo, and others who are technically gifted. If their clubs (your Man Cities, Real Madrids aren’t giving them the necessary physical training I’d be surprised).
The Spanish are successful mainly because of their tactical nous imo, which England seem to be lacking in the main team. Get a good coach and we may see an upturn.
I’m optimistic about the future.
@@mjcapinto sorry but if you're not managing a youth team at a top club (championship or premier league realistacally) then it literally has no relevance to the type of players coming into the top level of the game. these teams are churning out technically capable players now and are not just relying on physicality. Your point would be better made about what this demonstrates about the overall state of coaching and football understanding in England, which is a long way behind other countries.
where we are lacking at the top level is still in pairing that technical development with tactical awareness, which is still behind our overseas competitors (spain, germany, portugal) who have much better coaching set ups for longer where technical abiltiy is a given and tactical development is the critical factor in determining success.
Southgate is a product of his time tactically, he hasn't coached a league team since 2009 and hasn't had to push his tactics or develop them in an environment that has seen loads of tactical evolutions in the last 10 years, let alone 15 or so. I'm sure he's studied the game a lot, but it's not the same. Although Southgate had some success at U19/21 level I wouldn't say that there was a particular style of play that dominated or he developed a tactically advanced system, most of that work with our young players is done at different clubs. Holland as his No.2 has had more recent experience coaching in the club game, but Southgate has worked with him for so long and I think they haven't brought in enough outside influence and new ideas into the setup over his time in charge, especially I'd say in the last 3/4 years with the players who've come through in that time in much more sophisticated club systems.
its really good to hear these guys talk from beyond the confines of a corporate studio and we are lucky to have the content
Are they going to ask Southgate his opinion on the next manager...it would be interesting to hear.
He's too busy counting his money
It's not the coaches ... it's the FA. Clough ignored, Venables sacked, Glen Hoddle sacked for non- football reasons, the list goes on.
As a manager, Lampard is as successful as Gary Neville !
So why not him ?
Thanks Gary and Micah for that reflective, calm-down conversation. Brings much to the football community.😉⚽️
And deserved praise to Gareth. England is competitive again, and with potential for trophies up to 2030...easily. Let the lad take some deserved rest. All the best in oncoming projects.👊
Maybe someone should remind Gary that Klopp was a defender himself while active. There’s no logic to it that this keeps one from playing high press football.
I think the under 21s should step up if u dnt wanna rush it n see what he can do give Lampard or Gerrard the under 21s roll see what they can do there
Would be funny if England had the balls to take a French coach like Zidane
Funny? It would be amazing!! Zidane would be awesome!! Every football fan around the world would have Zidane managing their team.
Sacre bleu!
Zidane wouldn't manage England. Don't even bother.
Zidane can’t speak English, if you can’t speak the language then that should be an automatic no
lol the language argument is the dumbest ever there are 700 well documented proof of this is not a thing
It made my day seeing you both have made another video! I felt a bit down when you mentioned in the last video that your having a break!
Lineker for coach! ⚽
Please NO POTTER,GERRARD OR LAMPARD!! NOT good enough. Who else ROONEY,?? Will stop supporting England if one of these employed.
England had an easy group and a ridiculously easy knock-out stage, yet only stumbled through, despite the wealth of talent in the squad. Did Southgate really do well or did he flop immediately when going up against a good side with a tactically astute manager?
The new guy has to win. Everyone said with this squad any manager should be able to win...let's see if that is true
None of the tournaments easy games were easy anymore.
The lower ranked teams were all well organised, even nearly all the other teams struggled against lower ranking teams too
@@grandmasterj5 yeah but it doesn't fit the narrative of the Southgate haters to say that
@@grandmasterj5 Been hearing that argument for 20 years. England are overrated and always struggle against decent teams. FACT
@@grandmasterj5 yeah, I agree to some degree. But we're still talking Serbia and Slovenia, plus a Denmark side that has at best stagnated since Euro 2020. None of the teams England faced this tournament has a wealth of superstars comparable to England, not even Spain. So if they can compete with England due to being organised what does that say about Southgate?
Thank you for all the pods over the tournament. Such a shame we didn't get the fairytale ending but it was a great ride, although not the most entertaining on the pitch mostly.
I'd like to thank Gareth for everything he has done and the way he has conducted himself throughout.
Stevie G and Frank suck as managers. Their mates in the media will never admit it though!
Great year, thank you guys for filling countless hours of our lives with lively and balanced debate, analysis and interviews this season!
More than anything was great to watch/listen to something, that the British football fans were a bit unsure about initially, slowly develop into something more and more listenable to by the end of the season, culminating in a new peak this tournament - Micah's Spanish accent has come a long way
I´m sorry to say guys but Jürgen Klopp is already booked as German National coach after Nagelsmann quits after the next WC.
Without question. 👍
so that's two years away... I'll have him until then thanks.
Villa didn't give Gerrard a chance? He nearly sent us down 😂
Let’s get klopp in
My top choices for England would be:
1. Carlo Ancelotti - He is a proven winner who plays attacking football. Isn't bogged down by playing a certain philosophy because he tends to change formation and style to suit the players he has.
2. Pep Guardiola - Serial winner, Amazing Tactical manager, can sometimes fiddle about to much with his tactics and outhink himself but his trophy record speaks for itself. I do wonder if he can do it at a team that doesn't have vast spending power? (obviously you can't buy anyone in international football)
3. Jurgen Klopp - Fantastic man manager, very attacking and high pressing, wants to spend more time with his grandkids so being England manager should allow him to do that.
The FA needs to get someone in who can take us to that next level, build upon what Gareth Southgate has already started by not only reaching more finals but winning them.
Southgate is the only England manager in decades to stop the media from running the England team and deserves a lot of credit.
Unfortunately ever since losing the final to Italy the media has clawed their way back. Tabloid journalism in England has always been poisonous for the football team
Please not Lampard... Give it to someone who's proven themselves to be a decent manager
If he’d have listened to the media he probably would have actually selected a cohesive team rather than the same faces who played like a dog’s breakfast in every match.
@@rogerioceni2640 Not disputing that the team was dull and hard to watch. The media would have sacked him after the first game
All I'm saying is that what Southgate did off the pitch in his tenure hasn't been done by at least the previous 5 managers before him
International football is completely different to club management. Being a successful club manager doesn't guarantee international success. Look at Spain's manager. There's no reason not to give Potter or Lampard a trial period see how they go. Or both together even, we quickly forgot our U21's won the Euro's, how did their manager do at club level?
Lampard definitely gets the nod, Gerald and Cole number 2..
Thank you for your coverage of the Euros and the premier league. I live in Germany and I really miss match of the day. This has really filled the gap for me. Keep up the great work!
Micah with Roy's book on his shelf 😂
Boring
I've very much enjoyed the rest is football throughout the euros and think your views have been completely fair and justified.
The brownnosing on here is sickening. Did you remember the results & style of play?
Yeah I remember we got to 2 finals
@@SimonFlynn-un1ur fkn lucky too
@@galleon1968 nobody else did it..
Thanks Guys have watched your pod cast religiously throughout the tournament and have thoroughly enjoyed every episode
Get Shearer with Micah as number two.
😂
Disgraceful behaviour, they need Neville and Carra as well so that so that we finally get to see what the "experts" are made off on the big stage😂
"no other major footballing nation has had a foreign coach"
True, and England is not a major footballing nation.
Spot on mate
Gerrard was awful. Emery exposed him. Lampard was awful. Tuchel exposed him. Stop playing your little PR mate games. It fools absolutely none of us & is a massive reason why we ended up with bloody Southgate in the first place.
Klopp is the best choice for
Manager if you are serious about winning the next World Cup, Interim coach until next year the squad you have is fine you can’t reinvent the wheel, it’s the best you have had for a long time
why is there no mention of appointing Sean Dyche for the job? He would be a great manager for England!
Been wondering the same thing. It's bizarre. One of the manager of the season candidates last season, yet I see Lampard mentioned more. Anyway, worth a punt at 50/1. Hopefully the FA are less clueless than the pundits and bookies.
Neil Warnock would be just as awesome
Too unfashionable... probably too pragmatic and defensive for most people as well. I personally think he'd do a good job, international football is very rarely attacking, free flowing football
@@heppolohe would be awful
Dyche played a poor brand of football . Haven’t seen him produce ball possession based teams. More high pressing attacking teams. Warnock horrible football chars absolute gash
Big Meeks should be the next manager! 😁
England just need a manager to get the max out of the outstanding talent and play to their strengths. That man is Jurgen Klopp! 😃
The honesty from you guys has been refreshing, poor performances from players under Southgate’s baffling tactics have been excused or ignored for too long.
‘Success’ is winning, especially with these players. Our international competition is the weakest it’s ever been - we have the players that can play the football we want to see but we’ve been hampered by a manager that is years behind the game being played at club level today
SUCCESS IS WINNING!!!!!!!!!! WAKE UP !!!!!!!
I think this particular podcast is a troll.
1-Lampard a good idea 😅
2- Gerrard not getting enough time in Villa😮
3-Potter a good idea
4- having an English manager 😅😂
Potter’s failure at Chelsea was more of a reflection on Chelsea than Potter. He put in a situation that no manager could have succeeded in. I think that he would be good for England.
Having an English manager is essential
@@admaga actually he succeeded relatively in Brighton. Similarly De Zerbi relatively succeeded in Brighton. See a pattern?! Brighton has a very good project and management. When potter went to a bigger club, his tactics failed him and sank the club
@@SimonFlynn-un1ur to lose maybe. The fact that no English manager ever won the premiere league says it all. The best available English manager is Eddie Howe but I doubt Newcastle under the new ownership would let him go or that he would consider it given the abuse he will definitely be receiving because he achieved nothing so far and his resume needs to include more achievements.
@@danmero6864 My point is that he didn't get results was down to the chaos at the club, not his fault at all. I don't think that he was given a fair chance, or that any other manager would have managed good results given the circumstances. All we have to judge him on therefore, is his successful stint at Brighton.
Why is Gary insistent on pushing for Lampard? 🤔
Gareth Southgate was the first England manager to truly get the most out of black English players and to make them feel comfortable and accepted. He saw that the French were able to do this and won everything. Spain are doing the same now with Yamal and Nico Williams - Spain have never never won a Euros in such dominant fashion. He realised England needed to be a proper meritocracy and select only on merit and get rid of the bias in favour of white players. Fair play to Gareth for that, that alone got England to multiple finals and semi-finals.
@@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb didn't Spain beat Italy 4-0 in the Euro final in 2012?
I'd say Spain didn't look invincible, especially in the game versus Germany but Havertz was comical at finishing and Füllkrug flopped.
@@heppolo Spain won absolutely every single game in this Euros in largely dominant fashion. They beat every European major cup winner en route. They've never done that before. In 2012 Euros, they drew with Italy once and only progressed in knock out stages due to penalties against Portugal. Good to know where you're at though - basically a a racist git, right?
I totally agree with you.
Gareth Southgate was a great manager for the times and perhaps most uniquely because of his utter decency as a human being. As he said, some things are more important than football.
In my opinion, the English team's footballing success whilst Southgate was in charge is inexorably linked to the wholesale culture change he engineered.
I hope whoever takes over will build on the many positives of Gareth Southgate's tenure AND that the FA and government also work hard to encourage three times as many academies and coaches (to be on par with Spain) who train youngsters to play a precision passing, high-press, possession-based, creative game.
Who was biased
Such a gem of a podcast 👌🏻
The ideal candidate for me would be Ancelotti, mainly because he can adapt his formation and playing style to the players at his disposal (other than Pep/Klopp who teach very specific styles and need specific players). Also Ancelotti is a brilliant man-manager who has dealt with superstars for decades, and need I say it, has been incredibly successful.
Probably not worth getting hopeful about that one though
@@edmundironside9435 Oh come on, who wants to manage Real Madrid if they can manage England. Ahem...
Rarely listen to pundits talking about England and agree with everything they say. However, Gary and Micah are spot on in this video (w.r.t. Southgate)